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Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 10:15 AM
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Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 10:20 AM
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SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 10:29 AM
You might wanna save the trash talking until after Dallas somehow steals a game in Miami...which is gonna be a tall order.

bronco militia
06-10-2011, 10:32 AM
So after the game last night Lebron and some of the other Heat players were back at the hotel, and one of them asked Lebron for change of a dollar to buy some snacks from the vending machine.
Lebron gives him 75 cents, and the guy says " I gave you a dollar".
Then Lebron replies "I don't have a 4th quarter".

bronco militia
06-10-2011, 10:33 AM
You might wanna save the trash talking until after Dallas somehow steals a game in Miami...which is gonna be a tall order.

he should probably get it all in while he can

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 10:36 AM
You might wanna save the trash talking until after Dallas somehow steals a game in Miami...which is gonna be a tall order.

We already stole one.

A crew of crusty, ringless veterans has been presented with three days of rest and an opportunity to claim that which has eluded them for their entire careers.

Dirk got this.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 10:38 AM
We already stole one.

A crew of crusty, ringless veterans has been presented with three days of rest and an opportunity to claim that which has eluded them for their entire careers.

Dirk got this.

I'm glad you're so confident. I'm not saying they wont, but if you expect to go into Miami and watch them rollover, i think you're going to be painfully disappointed. And if this goes to game 7, you gonna love your chances?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 10:43 AM
LeBron can't handle it, but who could?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-getting-crushed-by-nba-finals-pressure-061011

The crown is too heavy now.

It crushed Tiger Woods. Serena Williams rejected it. Peyton Manning only wears it when it suits his needs. Alex Rodriquez had it stripped from his head by performance-enhancing drugs. A rape allegation dethroned Kobe Bryant.

Michael Jordan is our last global sports icon, and even he couldn’t bear the weight of the crown in this era. Neither could Muhammad Ali, Mickey Mantle, Babe Ruth or Joe Montana.

LeBron James had no idea what he was signing up for when he accepted the nickname “King James,” tatted “Chosen One” across his back and teamed with Nike in pursuit of global-icon status.

There was no Facebook or Twitter when this all began. James had probably never heard of Skip Bayless or Stephen A. Smith. Cellphones didn’t double as cameras and devices to watch, send and receive porn. Hardcore sports fans weren’t in their parents’ basements dreaming of inventing Deadspin.

You want to understand LeBron James and why he is struggling in this moment, in these NBA Finals, despite Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh helping him with his crown? You must first understand the time we live in.

The crown is too heavy now.

It’s weighed down by the infinite voices with access to an athlete’s mind. It’s weighed down by our outdated insistence on viewing athletes as role models while scrutinizing their personal lives the way we would a politician. It’s weighed down by technology, the 24-hour news cycle, reality TV and the sports world’s embrace of celebrity culture.

The mountain LeBron James is trying to scale is much higher than the one Jordan, Ali and Ruth climbed.

Is James shrinking? No. He’s getting crushed.

In the self-described biggest game of his life -- Game 5 of the NBA Finals -- James recorded a harmless triple-double and a harmful, 2-point fourth quarter on a night when, because of Wade’s hip injury, the Heat needed James to perform Magic.

I’m talking Magic Johnson, the 1980 rookie who opened for Kareem at center and dropped 42, 15 and seven on the Sixers in Game 6.

In Dallas’ 112-103 victory Thursday night, James finished with 17, 10 and 10. Good numbers. Not enough. And not what Miami needed with Wade spending considerable stretches trapped in the training room receiving treatment on a hip contusion.

Of James’ 10 rebounds, only one was offensive. He missed all four of his three-point shots. He made a single trip to the free-throw line. He turned the ball over a game-high four times. On the offensive end, he left the low block in the fourth. At the defensive end, Jason Terry torched James.

James said he’s not bothered by the pressure of the Finals, of the fourth quarter. He’s in denial.

“We as a team, we played good enough to win again,” he said. “Put ourselves in position to win down the stretch. Everyone, guys made plays. They just made a few more than we did. That’s what it came down to.”

The final score says the Heat did not play good enough to win. Dallas closed the game on a 15-2 run. Miami’s penchant for late-game collapses and James’ penchant for fourth-quarter offensive disappearance in this series indicates there’s a problem.

“I don’t think it was a case of offense again tonight,” James said. “There was enough offensive play. We shot 52 percent. They shot 56 percent. We scored 103 points. They scored 113. The offense wasn’t a problem.”

It’s true: Defense wins championships. This is also true: Sometimes your best defense is a good offense.

In a single-platoon sport like basketball, when you’re blessed with unprecedented talent, you can beat up and demoralize an opponent so badly on the offensive end that you destroy his confidence on both ends of the court.

Dropping 40 on someone is intimidating and distracting.

Chris Bosh is a different player in this series compared to the Chicago series because Dirk Nowitzki is inside his head. Bosh has yet to clear his brain of Dirk’s left-handed game-winner in Game 2. It’s scary playing against someone better than you.

Jason Kidd, Jason Terry and Shawn Marion are not afraid of LeBron. They don’t respect his moves on the block. They’re thrilled James is shying away from driving the ball and challenging Tyson Chandler at the rim.

James is lost.

The Decision and this marvelous NBA season vaulted him to global-icon status. Thanks to America’s fascination with James, the anticipation for Game 5 felt like an NFL playoff game. King James is must-see TV.

We shouldn’t be surprised he’s having trouble handling the moment. There was no Skip Bayless sitting on TV dissecting Jordan daily. There was no Stephen A. Smith going on national radio insinuating problems in Jordan’s personal life. Jordan never tweeted or gave millions of detractors easy access to rip him.

Jordan was prepared to wear the crown by two parents and Dean Smith.

It’s a different era now. The crown is too heavy and many of the kids haven’t been given instructions on how to wear it.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 11:05 AM
Hoisted by his own petard.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gAM5-2e-isY/TS6f5Cd_DtI/AAAAAAAAAPA/Z7DxlsEW4zs/s1600/lebron+james+karma+twitter.png

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 11:38 AM
We got Bareaaaaaaaaaaaaa

http://www.theunticket.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Bobs-NBA-Finals-Song-2011.mp3

Doggcow
06-10-2011, 12:17 PM
Haha, Maven is the worst kind of fan. Don't be a bitch.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 12:26 PM
Dallas 60, Miami 26

That's the score of the 24-minute composite representing the last six minutes...of the last four games in the NBA Finals. The equivalent of "one half" of a basketball game, but spread out over THE MOST IMPORTANT MINUTES of four different encounters.

LAST SIX MINUTES
Game Two: Dallas 20, Miami 5
Game Three: Dallas 12, Miami 7
Game Four: Dallas 11, Miami 5
Game Five: Dallas 17, Miami 9

Total: Dallas 60, Miami 26

If one of these teams had won an actual half by a score like that, the world would stand in awe. The leader would be celebrated for its dominance. The loser, humiliated (at least temporarily).

Have we ever even seen anything like that in the NBA playoffs in just a normal half? There have surely been blowouts. We've even seen trailing teams take the night off to save themselves for the next game. A 60-26 half? Sixty against what's considered by most accounts to be a great defense? Twenty-six, from what's supposed to be one of the most talented threesomes of scorers every assembled?

But, this isn't just a half. This is a composite of the most important minutes. From four games played in a row. Involving the same teams. The same sets of stars and role players. The same coaches.

It boggles the mind!

Miami did win the last six minutes of the series opener 17-15 in their 92-84 victory. So, it hasn't been a sweep of the clutch minutes for Dallas. But, Miami's win was only by two points. Dallas had wins of 15, 5, 6, and 8. The 30-minute composite score for the full series is Dallas 75, Miami 43. Still mind boggling.

TonyR
06-10-2011, 12:27 PM
The hate for LeBron is just astounding. It's as if he personally did something to injure and offend some of you people. A bunch of sadists I tell you! Why one person should inspire such hatred I'll never quite understand. Such carrying on. For the love of god stop already.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 12:29 PM
I don't think it's just Lebron. It's also the Heat. People hate what happened in 2006.

24champ
06-10-2011, 12:31 PM
Ha!


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Doggcow
06-10-2011, 12:38 PM
Ha!


http://i.imgur.com/DkBHm.gif

ROFL

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 12:39 PM
Yup.

See, LeBron doesn’t have “Alpha Male” tattooed on his torso. He has “Chosen 1” across his back and “Gifted Child” on his chest, his way of telling himself he was, and is, a special boy.

He constantly needs to remind himself of his stature, to the point of turning off teammates and would-be teammates.

For example, a player recently told me LeBron had contacted him about possibly joining forces in the offseason, though he was cryptic about where he actually might play. The text began: “Yo, this is King James.”

“I was like, ‘Give me a break. You’re going to call yourself that?’ ”the player said, on condition that his name not be used.

“Do you think Michael Jordan texts people by starting with, ‘Yo, this is His Airness.’ Come on, get over yourself.”

Why do you think LeBron’s favorite teams are the Yankees and the Cowboys — why did he pull for Jordan and the Bulls as a youth and not the hard-luck Cavaliers 45 minutes from his apartment complex as a child?

Because, the thought here is, he wanted one sure thing to hold onto; he wanted to be aligned with perennial winners. He needed something to latch onto that he couldn’t get at home: Trust. Safety. Security.

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-10-2011, 12:47 PM
So, when people don't like the Heat it's "hate"? What is it for people that don't like the Mavs?

worm
06-10-2011, 12:48 PM
The hate for LeBron is just astounding. It's as if he personally did something to injure and offend some of you people. A bunch of sadists I tell you! Why one person should inspire such hatred I'll never quite understand. Such carrying on. For the love of god stop already.

It is equally astounding to watch you defend him over and over and over again (to the diarrhea that is Bob no less). It's as if you bought a poster of him and don't want to take it off your wall.

If you can't fathom why LeBron would have his detractors, why an hour long show on The Decision, or a tattoo of 'Chosen One' or a moniker of 'King', or comments on how he has 'spoiled everyone', or his disappearance in his final series as a Cav or more recently in the fourth quarter of these Finals would irk people...then there may not be any hope for you to see a different perspective.

When you advertise yourself as the greatest ball player on the planet....you better bring it (and it helps to do so with some humility) or you will get ridiculed. It is as simple as that.

broncswin
06-10-2011, 12:52 PM
It is easy to see why bobo gets so excited by the mavs...he is a kc fan...they haven't been close enough to sniff a ship in quite some time.


By the way...Go Mavs!

Dukes
06-10-2011, 12:54 PM
The hate for LeBron is just astounding. It's as if he personally did something to injure and offend some of you people. A bunch of sadists I tell you! Why one person should inspire such hatred I'll never quite understand. Such carrying on. For the love of god stop already.

He brought it all on himself.

TonyR
06-10-2011, 12:54 PM
It is equally astounding to watch you defend him over and over and over again...

I don't know how you can honestly say this unless you're completely lacking perspective. I'm not a LeBron fan or a heat fan. I'm mostly making factual observations and yet what I'm doing is equally astounding to you as page after page of people posting gifs and negative comments and stories about a guy? People can do and say what they want but I'm just surprised so many of you expend so much energy on hating someone. It doesn't speak well of the people doing it. Publicly enjoying someone's failure is that much fun? I'm sorry for you if it is, and if you really think what I'm doing is comparable.

TonyR
06-10-2011, 12:59 PM
He brought it all on himself.

Yes, that's certainly true. Although I'd point out that he was created by the media and we all bought it. He's been told he's the next great thing since he was a kid. Most kids who aren't brought up right are going to probably end up considerably worse than he has under the circumstances. I just don't get the same level of enjoyment out of him "failing" as many people seem to for whatever reason.

bombay
06-10-2011, 01:15 PM
Yes, that's certainly true. Although I'd point out that he was created by the media and we all bought it. He's been told he's the next great thing since he was a kid. Most kids who aren't brought up right are going to probably end up considerably worse than he has under the circumstances. I just don't get the same level of enjoyment out of him "failing" as many people seem to for whatever reason.

You all.

You're starting to remind me of epic douchebag with Dirk.

bronco militia
06-10-2011, 01:18 PM
The hate for LeBron is just astounding. It's as if he personally did something to injure and offend some of you people. A bunch of sadists I tell you! Why one person should inspire such hatred I'll never quite understand. Such carrying on. For the love of god stop already.

face palm!

here's a hint

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/07/espns-the-decision-scores-but-leaves-questions-in-its-aftermath.html

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 01:19 PM
"If Dallas wins, they'll be one of the worst champions of all-time"

- Colin Cowherd

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 01:43 PM
The hate for LeBron is just astounding. It's as if he personally did something to injure and offend some of you people. A bunch of sadists I tell you! Why one person should inspire such hatred I'll never quite understand. Such carrying on. For the love of god stop already.

Thanks for the suggestion, thought police!

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-10-2011, 01:45 PM
"If Dallas wins, they'll be one of the worst champions of all-time"

- Colin Cowherd

Dang it, Bob, I just put that up on Twitter. Are we gay Tweet Buddies and I just don't know it?

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 01:47 PM
"If Dallas wins, they'll be one of the worst champions of all-time"

- Colin Cowherd

All of these same morons thought that Dallas would be bounced by now.

Dallas swept the champion Lakers and could potentially beat the superteam in Miami. Dallas only has one star player to Miami's 3.

Should Dallas win this, Colin Cowherd (whoever that is) can bow at Dirk's Finals MVP after one of the greatest individual playoff runs in NBA history.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 01:52 PM
Dang it, Bob, I just put that up on Twitter. Are we gay Tweet Buddies and I just don't know it?

All this bonding I'm doing with Dallas area Broncos fans is gonna feel real creepy the morning after.

I'm not talking to any of you ever again.

Doggcow
06-10-2011, 01:54 PM
All of these same morons thought that Dallas would be bounced by now.

Dallas swept the champion Lakers and could potentially beat the superteam in Miami. Dallas only has one star player to Miami's 3.

Should Dallas win this, Colin Cowherd (whoever that is) can bow at Dirk's Finals MVP after one of the greatest individual playoff runs in NBA history.

No ****.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-10-2011, 02:01 PM
A rape allegation dethroned Kobe Bryant.



::)

Really?

(Hint: Key word is "allegation.")

vancejohnson82
06-10-2011, 02:10 PM
I don't know how you can honestly say this unless you're completely lacking perspective. I'm not a LeBron fan or a heat fan. I'm mostly making factual observations and yet what I'm doing is equally astounding to you as page after page of people posting gifs and negative comments and stories about a guy? People can do and say what they want but I'm just surprised so many of you expend so much energy on hating someone. It doesn't speak well of the people doing it. Publicly enjoying someone's failure is that much fun? I'm sorry for you if it is, and if you really think what I'm doing is comparable.

Agreed....When I was little I felt like that about Jordan. Then when I was an adult, I sat back and said, "Man I wish I would have sat back and enjoyed his play a bit more"

LeBron will have his day....and it could even be the last two games of this series

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 02:33 PM
Agreed....When I was little I felt like that about Jordan. Then when I was an adult, I sat back and said, "Man I wish I would have sat back and enjoyed his play a bit more"

LeBron will have his day....and it could even be the last two games of this series

As a person whe enjoyed every minute of MJ, I can tell you that this LeBron James clown is not even close to MJ and you should probably check yourself for even mentioning him in the same sentance.

oubronco
06-10-2011, 04:07 PM
As a person whe enjoyed every minute of MJ, I can tell you that this LeBron James clown is not even close to MJ and you should probably check yourself for even mentioning him in the same sentance.

I agree

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-10-2011, 04:44 PM
Maven?

Boobs McGee
06-10-2011, 04:50 PM
Blech. As much as I hate to say it...I'm pulling for the mavs here. I absolutely despise Lebron, and that pretty much outweighs any compulsion I have to be anti Dallas thanks to a certain knob gobbling troglodyte llama.

I actually like Dirk, and despite the fact that they bitch bounced my Lakers, I'm going to have to throw some mojo Texas' way. I guess it sounds better when your team gets swept by the world champs, right?

Anywho, I hope Dallas can pull off the impossible. They have one of the best benches in the league, and if terry/kidd can shoot lights out to create that space, if Dirk can continue on this historic run, then I don't know if the Heat can win two in a row. So, go Mavs.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-10-2011, 05:24 PM
^

+1

Doggcow
06-10-2011, 05:25 PM
Blech. As much as I hate to say it...I'm pulling for the mavs here. I absolutely despise Lebron, and that pretty much outweighs any compulsion I have to be anti Dallas thanks to a certain knob gobbling troglodyte llama.

I actually like Dirk, and despite the fact that they b**** bounced my Lakers, I'm going to have to throw some mojo Texas' way. I guess it sounds better when your team gets swept by the world champs, right?

Anywho, I hope Dallas can pull off the impossible. They have one of the best benches in the league, and if terry/kidd can shoot lights out to create that space, if Dirk can continue on this historic run, then I don't know if the Heat can win two in a row. So, go Mavs.

I usually cheer for the team that beats mine in the playoffs. **** it, may as well lose to the best.

OrangeSe7en
06-10-2011, 05:52 PM
"If Dallas wins, they'll be one of the worst champions of all-time"

- Colin Cowherd

Yet they'd have to win it by beating a team with Wade, James, and Bosh. You can't have it both ways. You cant go on and on about Miami and then say that about a team that beats them (if it happens).

Kid A
06-10-2011, 06:10 PM
Yet they'd have to win it by beating a team with Wade, James, and Bosh. You can't have it both ways. You cant go on and on about Miami and then say that about a team that beats them (if it happens).

Cowherd's just being Cowherd (i.e. we're talking about him right now, mission accomplished). Obviously a team that stomped the defending back-to-back champs and then dispatched the Superfriends would be a very impressive team.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 06:27 PM
As a person whe enjoyed every minute of MJ, I can tell you that this LeBron James clown is not even close to MJ and you should probably check yourself for even mentioning him in the same sentance.

I heard someone compare Lebron to a poor man's Dominique Wilkins the other day. ROFL!

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 06:34 PM
I heard someone compare Lebron to a poor man's Dominique Wilkins the other day. ROFL!

Horrible comparison

oubronco
06-10-2011, 06:40 PM
I heard someone compare Lebron to a poor man's Dominique Wilkins the other day. ROFL!

Lebron isn't as good as Wilkins was

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 06:40 PM
Horrible comparison

Dominique would be offended, no doubt.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 06:41 PM
Dominique would be offended, no doubt.

i wonder if you can see my eyeroll from here

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 06:46 PM
Hence the po man qualifier.

Personally I think he's more like a rich man's Josh Howard.

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 06:46 PM
Yet they'd have to win it by beating a team with Wade, James, and Bosh. You can't have it both ways. You cant go on and on about Miami and then say that about a team that beats them (if it happens).

It has happened with every team the Mavs have played in the playoffs so far. Its the same talk in every round.

But by the time the Mavs had dispatched the Lakers in 4 games with their now ice cold trademark fourth-quarter execution, people really should have begun to see the pattern emerge that has defined Dallas through the playoff run. Dallas is the new Clutch City, led by the new Clutch King. They do it on both ends of the floor better than anyone in the league in the fourth, and their freakish highly efficient undefendable basketball frankenstein is simply the best fourth quarter player in the world right now.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 06:49 PM
Lebron isn't as good as Wilkins was

You guys are basing a career off three horrible games. (and for him, a horrible game is a triple double)

You know why people are hating on LeBron? Because his talent and atheltic ability are so out of this world and he's letting his dumbass head get in the way. We've seen what he's capable of, and we've seen him soar in big moments...we've also seen him completely shrink in the same moments and thats why its so frustrating. if he cant get out of his head, it will always hold back his sky is the limit potential.

But you guys hating on him, claiming he's just run of a the mill? You've clearly not watched him play much. Though if you need, take a look at a stat or two.

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 06:49 PM
Hence the po man qualifier.

Personally I think he's more like a rich man's Josh Howard.

I have repeatedly claimed here that LeBarn is an extremely gifted athlete with a pea for a brain.

Does anyone want to continue to deny that that is the case?

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 06:50 PM
Blech. As much as I hate to say it...I'm pulling for the mavs here. I absolutely despise Lebron, and that pretty much outweighs any compulsion I have to be anti Dallas thanks to a certain knob gobbling troglodyte llama.

Man, if a troglodyte thoroughly pimp slapped you up and down this thread in every attempt at debate that you have mustered up to spit out of whats left of your frontal lobe, then what does that make you? Guano?

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 06:51 PM
Hence the po man qualifier.

Personally I think he's more like a rich man's Josh Howard.

Has Josh howard led the lead in PER the past 4 seasons? If you put Josh Howard on the Cavs, is that a 60 win team?

Bron has not been Bron in the finals, no friggin doubt. His triple double was meaningless. But now you're just being an ignorant asshole if you really believe that ****.

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 06:52 PM
Has Josh howard led the lead in PER the past 4 seasons? If you put Josh Howard on the Cavs, is that a 60 win team?

Bron has not been Bron in the finals, no friggin doubt. His triple double was meaningless. But now you're just being an ignorant a-hole if you really believe that ****.

"Bron" is not quite up to the level of Dirk circa 2006. That's what it makes him.

You called him "Bron". Heh.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 06:52 PM
I have repeatedly claimed here that LeBarn is an extremely gifted athlete with a pea for a brain.

Does anyone want to continue to deny that that is the case?

if he had a pea for a brain (claiming he's stupid), he'd have no problem forgetting this ****. He's a thoughtful guy, he thinks TOO much. He clearly doesnt have that asshole Jordan/Kobe in him, but that doesnt mean he has a pea sized brain....you on the other hand...

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 06:53 PM
"Bron" is not quite up to the level of Dirk circa 2006. That's what it makes him.

He's lead the league in PER the last 4 seasons. Dirk lead it once

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 06:57 PM
if he had a pea for a brain (claiming he's stupid), he'd have no problem forgetting this ****. He's a thoughtful guy, he thinks TOO much. He clearly doesnt have that a-hole Jordan/Kobe in him, but that doesnt mean he has a pea sized brain....you on the other hand...

Nope. Dude is a moron. "The Decision" was poorly thought out, his team choice left a much different result in its wake than he predicted (very short sighted and ignorant...typical of an insulated guy who isnt the brightest), he continues to do some incredibly ignorant things outside of the game (admitting that he stays up late into the wee hours of the morning reading articles about himself, joining Wade in mocking Dirk's illness in front of cameras, etc), and he isn't as intelligent a basketball player as several others on the court including both Wade and Bosh...not to mention the high IQ players on Dallas like Kidd, Nowitzki, and others.

Dude just is not very smart.

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 06:57 PM
He's lead the league in PER the last 4 seasons. Dirk lead it once

That means absolutely nothing.

Look at these finals.

Dirk is the best player on the floor. James? Is he as good as Jason Terry? Its questionable at this point.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 07:21 PM
Again, I said "rich man's" Josh Howard.

Are you Lebron or do you just have a clone of his brain inside your skull?

TonyR
06-10-2011, 07:23 PM
You guys are basing a career off three horrible games. (and for him, a horrible game is a triple double)

You know why people are hating on LeBron? Because his talent and atheltic ability are so out of this world and he's letting his dumbass head get in the way. We've seen what he's capable of, and we've seen him soar in big moments...we've also seen him completely shrink in the same moments and thats why its so frustrating. if he cant get out of his head, it will always hold back his sky is the limit potential.

But you guys hating on him, claiming he's just run of a the mill? You've clearly not watched him play much. Though if you need, take a look at a stat or two.

Great post. Always good to see that there's some other sane people in the room.

To call LeBron gutless, heartless, or whatever, that's one thing. But to suggest the guy isn't a great player shows a complete lack of understanding of the sport. The main thing he's been guilty of in these finals is being passive and taking a back seat to Wade. LeBron really needs a Phil Jackson type coach to get in his head the way he did with MJ and Kobe.

TonyR
06-10-2011, 07:25 PM
That means absolutely nothing.

Right. I forgot that stats only mean something when they support your argument. I mean seriously, being the most productive player in the league four consecutive seasons means nothing? Um, okay.

Boobs McGee
06-10-2011, 07:28 PM
Man, if a troglodyte thoroughly pimp slapped you up and down this thread in every attempt at debate that you have mustered up to spit out of whats left of your frontal lobe, then what does that make you? Guano?

Clown. But please, by all means, continue on in that fantasy world of yours. Just remember, the only person ON THE ENTIRE BOARD that can stomach the incessant drivel oozing from that cum stained keyboard of yours is a fat bet welching queefs fan....but again, PLEASE, continue on with the "pimp slapping" I'm sure you truly believe happens when ANYONE dares to match wits or cross paths with the great dramallama. Destroyer of the defenseless tube sock. Annihilator of the ass virgins. Conqueror of the colonic cowboys. You totally rule the internetz with iron fistz of fury!!1!11!!! All shall bow before your complete inability to comprehend the word "fail" and/or "narcissistic douchenozzle"!!1!1!

:thumbs:

Now run along, and go take out some aggression on that lipstick and jizz caked special order straight from German life size dirk blow up doll you're calling a real girlfriend these days. I'm sure she misses you.

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 07:50 PM
Clown. But please, by all means, continue on in that fantasy world of yours. Just remember, the only person ON THE ENTIRE BOARD that can stomach the incessant drivel oozing from that cum stained keyboard of yours is a fat bet welching queefs fan....but again, PLEASE, continue on with the "pimp slapping" I'm sure you truly believe happens when ANYONE dares to match wits or cross paths with the great dramallama. Destroyer of the defenseless tube sock. Annihilator of the ass virgins. Conqueror of the colonic cowboys. You totally rule the internetz with iron fistz of fury!!1!11!!! All shall bow before your complete inability to comprehend the word "fail" and/or "narcissistic douchenozzle"!!1!1!


Now run along, and go take out some aggression on that lipstick and jizz caked special order straight from German life size dirk blow up doll you're calling a real girlfriend these days. I'm sure she misses you.

I need to re-evaluate my approach.

Why waste time (the little time that it takes) delivering knock-out blow to your "debates" again and again, when you do such a bang-up job of kicking yourself in the nads like you just did?

Got anymore funny jokes about how Gasol is better than Dirk?

OrangeSe7en
06-10-2011, 08:00 PM
Great post. Always good to see that there's some other sane people in the room.

To call LeBron gutless, heartless, or whatever, that's one thing. But to suggest the guy isn't a great player shows a complete lack of understanding of the sport. The main thing he's been guilty of in these finals is being passive and taking a back seat to Wade. LeBron really needs a Phil Jackson type coach to get in his head the way he did with MJ and Kobe.

The reason Phil was able to be the Zen Master was because someone had to be the ass kicker and that person was Jordan. Jordan did way more for Phil than Phil did for Jordan. When Jordan endorsed Phil toward the end of their run, Phil was instantly validated for always and forever in the minds of any player Phil would coach later. Kobe's has tried to be like Mike and that has also included getting after teammates. Anyway, getting back to Phil helping LeBron...if you remove that dynamic, one could question whether Phil would still be as effective.

OrangeSe7en
06-10-2011, 08:02 PM
Right. I forgot that stats only mean something when they support your argument. I mean seriously, being the most productive player in the league four consecutive seasons means nothing? Um, okay.

Are you familiar with the term, "Paper Tiger"?

Dukes
06-10-2011, 08:23 PM
Maven?

Boobs McGee
06-10-2011, 08:32 PM
I need to re-evaluate my approach.

Why waste time (the little time that it takes) delivering knock-out blow to your "debates" again and again, when you do such a bang-up job of kicking yourself in the nads like you just did?

Got anymore funny jokes about how Gasol is better than Dirk?

Already been covered, but keep beatin that dead horse :thumbs:

epicSocialism4tw
06-10-2011, 08:39 PM
Already been covered, but keep beatin that dead horse

It has become commonplace to see your takes crash an burn in the face of reality. Certainly. I will grant you that point.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Dallas is the new Clutch City, led by the new Clutch King.

The king is dead.

Long live the KING.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu132/AiThorCards/Traded/dirk.jpg

bronco militia
06-10-2011, 09:03 PM
Lebron isn't as good as Wilkins was

Ha!Ha!

awesome

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 09:13 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/wk02me.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 09:15 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkxjz4Hi61qbcs46o1_500.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 09:17 PM
Oh my.

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/06/charles-barkley-will-wear-speedo-if-mave.html

Some bad will come out of the Mavericks winning an NBA title.

Bad like: Miami Herald columnist Dan Le Batard wearing a Speedo.

Le Batard recently challenged Hall of Famer Charles Barkley to the disturbing bet.

During Le Batard's radio show before Thursday's Game 5, the two agreed that if the Mavericks lose the Finals, Barkley will wear a Speedo on South Beach while being interviewed on the radio show. If the Heat loses, Le Batard will wear the Speedo.

ZONA
06-10-2011, 09:24 PM
"If Dallas wins, they'll be one of the worst champions of all-time"

- Colin Cowherd

That guy is a first rate tool. No radio voice at all, just talks loud to cover that up for starters. And it's nothing but his opinion all show long. Hardly any live callers. I turn him on and no more then 5 minutes later I can't take him anymore so off he goes.

ZONA
06-10-2011, 09:29 PM
I have to say, I thought Wade was a pretty classy guy. I hardly ever see him fist pound his chest or stare down other players. Seeing him mock Dirk for being sick, as if Dirk has control of that, was just disgusting to watch. That was so 8th grader it's not even funny. Grow the **** up Wade and James. People get sick, it happens. And he even played and you guys lost. Next time, just shut your F'n pie holes and play. You won't be seeing Dirk walk down the hall way with a fake limp saying his hip hurts the next game I tell you that. F'n tools.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 09:43 PM
http://generationysports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 09:45 PM
Hey Wade, trying playing with a disolcated pinky like Marion, YOU BITCH.

http://www.thenolookpass.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/marionhand.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 09:55 PM
This is the funniest **** I've EVER read about Dirk. LMAO

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t803929/

I can't believe it.. Dirk Nowitzki is a RACE TRAITOR/MIXER!

Such a waste to see this great white basketball superstar turn against his own race. I can't believe this whole time I was cheering this idiot on only to find out he is enganged with a n***ess. I can't believe this. Just when I was getting back into the NBA cheering on Dirk to kick some n**** asses. Well not anymore. This was the final nail in the coffin for me. bye bye nba and Dirk the jerk.

Nowitzki. Nowitzki. Nowitzki.

Am I out of line in thinking that his last name sounds Jewish?

Nowitzki is a Germanized version of the Polish surname Nowicki.


The article states that his girlfriend might be pregnant. What a way to throw your genetic heritage to the dogs. What in God's name went through his mind..


Dirk Nowitzki is one White man I would've never expected to be a race traitor.

I always cheered him on as he was one of the only few White players in the NBA.

oubronco
06-10-2011, 10:03 PM
You guys are basing a career off three horrible games. (and for him, a horrible game is a triple double)

You know why people are hating on LeBron? Because his talent and atheltic ability are so out of this world and he's letting his dumbass head get in the way. We've seen what he's capable of, and we've seen him soar in big moments...we've also seen him completely shrink in the same moments and thats why its so frustrating. if he cant get out of his head, it will always hold back his sky is the limit potential.

But you guys hating on him, claiming he's just run of a the mill? You've clearly not watched him play much. Though if you need, take a look at a stat or two.

Lebron has been overhyped since day one

Boobs McGee
06-10-2011, 10:24 PM
It has become commonplace to see your takes crash an burn in the face of reality. Certainly. I will grant you that point.

:thumbs:

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 10:44 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/jsm05j.jpg

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-10-2011, 10:56 PM
Maven?

bombay
06-10-2011, 11:13 PM
Just saw Walter Davis at Safeway. The Man had the sweetest shot I've ever seen, averaged 25 points for 17 years, and I don't think he's in the hall. He's shy, and doesn't like to be acknowledged at all, so I never say anything to him at all.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...daviswa03.html (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/daviswa03.html)<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

Boobs McGee
06-10-2011, 11:19 PM
I need to re-evaluate my approach.

Why waste time (the little time that it takes) delivering knock-out blow to your "debates" again and again, when you do such a bang-up job of kicking yourself in the nads like you just did?

Got anymore funny jokes about how Gasol is better than Dirk?

And ps, here's the section you think is some argument you won...http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=94233&highlight=gasol&page=25
This is the discussion you keep referring to (which, btw, I was happy to back away from because all of the factual evidence provided obviously didn't work for you), where you somehow think I'm trying to make a case that he's Dirk's equal.


Not going to take the time to repost all the quotes like I did in the other thread, but clearly, your memory's fading. Your obvious hatred towards "big bird" as you so affectionately call Pau, shines through with an absolute disregard to his body of work in the finals.



And lets not forget, you call him good but not great...soft,not tough, DEFINITELY not clutch, someone you'd be worried about if the lakers had to depend on....yet wholeheartedly endorse him as the guy who's Mj's pippen and Magic's Kareem, just to try and prove a point that your loving Dirk is the only player in history besides Hakeem that's "doing it on his own".

Laughable.

But, as I said, whatever revisionists history you need, right? that psycho-semantic bull**** must be AWESOME, eh?

:thumbs:

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 11:23 PM
This town a great big pussy
just waiting to be ****ed

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254942_10150624524915461_16555485460_18629807_4784 735_n.jpg

SonOfLe-loLang
06-10-2011, 11:37 PM
Lebron has been overhyped since day one

Then you've really only watched the last three games.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-10-2011, 11:41 PM
awwwwwwww freak out

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249480_10150195818691956_565846955_7523538_2046377 _n.jpg

Requiem
06-11-2011, 12:08 AM
When's the next game?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 12:09 AM
Sunday

bombay
06-11-2011, 12:15 AM
Probably just as well that boobs is about the only guy I can read here. and requiem and Tony r. And Le-lo Lang.

Requiem
06-11-2011, 12:20 AM
Epic and Bob coming together is something straight out of a fairy-tale. Unheard of combination. Like Dumb and Dumber.

myMind
06-11-2011, 12:29 AM
ererererer...er

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 01:12 AM
http://cdn3.tauntr.com/sites/default/files/lebrons_desktop[1].jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 02:02 AM
Lebron has been overhyped since day one

it has made him into a petulant brat.

Requiem
06-11-2011, 02:27 AM
Over-hyped? LOL. Since he came into the league, what eight years ago, nine? He has done this:
Awards and honors


Main article: List of career achievements by LeBron James (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_LeBron_James)

2 NBA Most Valuable Player (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Most_Valuable_Player): 2009, 2010
NBA Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Rookie_of_the_Year): 2004
NBA Scoring Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_season_sco ring_leaders): 2008
2 NBA All-Star Game MVP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Star_Game_MVP): 2006, 2008
7 NBA All-Star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Star_Game): 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
7 All-NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team):

First Team: 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
Second Team: 2005, 2007

3 NBA All-Defensive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Defensive_Team):

First Team: 2009, 2010, 2011

NBA All-Rookie First Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Rookie_First_Team): 2004
Yeah, he's over-hyped. LOL. He has his flaws, can go cold (as shown in this Series' 4Q's) but the guy usually dominates. That is just a fact of life.

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 03:16 AM
Over-hyped? LOL. Since he came into the league, what eight years ago, nine? He has done this:
Awards and honors


Main article: List of career achievements by LeBron James (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_LeBron_James)

2 NBA Most Valuable Player (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Most_Valuable_Player): 2009, 2010
NBA Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Rookie_of_the_Year): 2004
NBA Scoring Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_season_sco ring_leaders): 2008
2 NBA All-Star Game MVP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Star_Game_MVP): 2006, 2008
7 NBA All-Star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Star_Game): 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
7 All-NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team):

First Team: 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011
Second Team: 2005, 2007

3 NBA All-Defensive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Defensive_Team):

First Team: 2009, 2010, 2011

NBA All-Rookie First Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_All-Rookie_First_Team): 2004
Yeah, he's over-hyped. LOL. He has his flaws, can go cold (as shown in this Series' 4Q's) but the guy usually dominates. That is just a fact of life.

I see alot of accolades that he hasn't earned and a couple that he has.

You really want to give that guy defensive team honors after watching both Dirk and Terry make him look like an oversized traffic cone?

Either Dirk and Terry are the two best offensive players in the history of the game (Dirk is one), or James is overrated.

Requiem
06-11-2011, 03:22 AM
Even the best don't win every match-up.

LeBron's performance in the Finals does not negate his overall defending ability, which has grown tremendously since coming into the NBA.

You don't judge a football player's status by one game or one series of playoff matches. It is their whole career, their entire merits.

LeBron has put up amazing numbers, but doesn't have a ring to show for it. Eventually he will, whether it is this year or down the road.

I don't like LeBron James at all, but he is getting a lot of unwarranted and ignorant hate in this thread, "just because."

I'm sure you think Dirk is a better player than LeBron James.

How many owners/coaches/GM's around the league would select him over LeBron if given the chance to do that tomorrow?

I bet less than half a dozen.

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 03:46 AM
Even the best don't win every match-up.

LeBron's performance in the Finals does not negate his overall defending ability, which has grown tremendously since coming into the NBA.

You don't judge a football player's status by one game or one series of playoff matches. It is their whole career, their entire merits.

LeBron has put up amazing numbers, but doesn't have a ring to show for it. Eventually he will, whether it is this year or down the road.

I don't like LeBron James at all, but he is getting a lot of unwarranted and ignorant hate in this thread, "just because."

I'm sure you think Dirk is a better player than LeBron James.

How many owners/coaches/GM's around the league would select him over LeBron if given the chance to do that tomorrow?

I bet less than half a dozen.

Dirk is one win away from proving once and for a long time (maybe forever) that he is a better player than LeBron James. If Dirk wins this series over James, Wade, and Bosh, there's just about no way that you can put James above Nowitzki given that Dirk would have beat James + Wade + Bosh, while outscoring James 52-11 in the fourth quarter over the course of the series.

Dirk has outscored Wade + James in the fourth quarter over the course of the series 52-51.

As of today, Dirk is better than James and Wade. If Dallas wins, Dirk has the same Finals record as Wade, and has a better record than James.

Dirk also has led a team of average players to 11-straight (and counting) years of 50+ wins and playoff appearances. Wade couldn't pull that off, and James is far away.

Dirk put a franchise on the map, has sold out stadiums for well over a decade, and has built a classy reputation that reflects well on the organization.

And this won't be Dirk's last run. He has a good 3-4 years left of peak-level performance. His game gets better with age because he doesn't rely on athleticism.

Dirk is re-writing the book.

Requiem
06-11-2011, 04:06 AM
(1) Dirk isn't better than LeBron James. You've based this time and time again comparing their playoff performances this year. Why not their careers? (Compare what LeBron had done in several less years, BTW.) How many people league-wide do you think have that opinion?

(2) Outscored, so what? Dirk is known for showing up late in games. He is very clutch.

(3) Wade is irrelevant to this discussion.

(4) 11 appearances and nothing to show for it. Teams with "average players" don't win 50+ games a year. Stop underrating Dirk's supporting cast throughout his career to increase his aura as a player. It isn't needed. Dirk is great. Marginalizing others to try and make his successes bigger is petty.

(5) Good for Dirk and putting the Mavericks on the map. Maybe this year all his efforts in the game of basketball pay off and the Mavericks won't **** the bed like they have continuously for over a decade.

DBroncos4life
06-11-2011, 04:18 AM
(1) Dirk isn't better than LeBron James. You've based this time and time again comparing their playoff performances this year. Why not their careers? (Compare what LeBron had done in several less years, BTW.) How many people league-wide do you think have that opinion?

(2) Outscored, so what? Dirk is known for showing up late in games. He is very clutch.

(3) Wade is irrelevant to this discussion.

(4) 11 appearances and nothing to show for it. Teams with "average players" don't win 50+ games a year. Stop underrating Dirk's supporting cast throughout his career to increase his aura as a player. It isn't needed. Dirk is great. Marginalizing others to try and make his successes bigger is petty.

(5) Good for Dirk and putting the Mavericks on the map. Maybe this year all his efforts in the game of basketball pay off and the Mavericks won't **** the bed like they have continuously for over a decade.

1) More people will now then a few weeks ago...
4) The Cavs say hello

TonyR
06-11-2011, 06:53 AM
Are you familiar with the term, "Paper Tiger"?

Don't be such a moron. He carried Cleveland to the playoffs five straight years including the finals once, leaves Cleveland and the team implodes, and then propels this current Miami team to the finals. Has he underachieved in the finals thus far? Yes, certainly. But let's not get so carried away about how much he supposedly sucks.

Drunk Monkey
06-11-2011, 06:58 AM
Maven???

OrangeSe7en
06-11-2011, 07:44 AM
Don't be such a moron. He carried Cleveland to the playoffs five straight years including the finals once, leaves Cleveland and the team implodes, and then propels this current Miami team to the finals. Has he underachieved in the finals thus far? Yes, certainly. But let's not get so carried away about how much he supposedly sucks.

You need to stop with all the let "us" and amateur psychologist stuff. You obviously don't know what the term means. Furthermore, you should also recognize that I, myself, am not necessarily suggesting that he is a paper tiger but there is that interpretation that could be made. He's had some big moments in the post season but he's also pulled some really blatant disappearing acts. I really have no strong opinion on whether he's a paper tiger...Im not going to step in front of a train arguing against those that do feel that way.

I see, once again, you're still stickign with the "cleveland implodes" schtick. One big reason was that LeBron d*cked them over by stringing them along and making his "decision" way late in the process. We've been over this. You've had this explained to you before.

You're just going to have to face facts though. The truth is, that you don't get credit for only pushing the boulder half way up the hill. Its probably not fair but that's the way it goes. And so when you play well in Chicago, you dont get a pass for pulling a disappearing act against Dallas in the next round.

Another thing you seem to have trouble grasping is that most comments are challenging his character and not his ability as a basketball player. And these are completely fair criticisms. When people say something like, "LeBron stinks, he disappears", theyre saying he should be able to assert himself more when it matters most, but you're typical rebuttal is to try to point out what he did before he pulled the disappearing act. You end up going in circles because people generally already know that he had accumulated stats.

TonyR
06-11-2011, 09:39 AM
You need to stop with all the let "us" and amateur psychologist stuff.

So I'm an "amateur pshychologist" because I used the word "let's"?


...you should also recognize that I, myself, am not necessarily suggesting that he is a paper tiger...

So you suggest he's a paper tiger and then claim you aren't suggesting he is one? I'm going to recommend that going forward you don't suggest things that you don't want to suggest. Just a thought.


I see, once again, you're still stickign with the "cleveland implodes" schtick.

Of course I am, it's 100% factually correct! They went from being one of the best teams with him to one of the worst without him.


You're just going to have to face facts though. The truth is, that you don't get credit for only pushing the boulder half way up the hill. Its probably not fair but that's the way it goes. And so when you play well in Chicago, you dont get a pass for pulling a disappearing act against Dallas in the next round.

I'll grant you this point. But I've never disagreed with this. I've stated multiple times that he hasn't gotten it done against Dallas and needs to do better. Just like guys like Karl Malone and David Robinson and Charles Barkley and Clyde Drexler didn't get it done multiple times in their careers.


Another thing you seem to have trouble grasping is that most comments are challenging his character and not his ability as a basketball player. And these are completely fair criticisms. When people say something like, "LeBron stinks, he disappears", theyre saying he should be able to assert himself more when it matters most, but you're typical rebuttal is to try to point out what he did before he pulled the disappearing act. You end up going in circles because people generally already know that he had accumulated stats.

I'm not having trouble grasping anything. I disagree that most comments are only "challening his character". And as for my "typical rebuttal" I've agreed that he hasn't had a good finals. My "rebuttal" is that he's a better player than many give him credit for being and that it's silly for people to direct so much time and energy to hating the guy. To me the biggest thing he's guilty of in these finals is deferring to Wade too much and playing far too unselfishly. I can't explain why he's not doing more of what he did against Chicago. Can you?

Inkana7
06-11-2011, 10:49 AM
Of course I am, it's 100% factually correct! They went from being one of the best teams with him to one of the worst without him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

TonyR
06-11-2011, 10:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

Okay. But that doesn't change the fact that Cleveland was one of the best teams in the NBA with LeBron James and one of the worst the very next year without LeBron James.

Inkana7
06-11-2011, 11:00 AM
Okay. But that doesn't change the fact that Cleveland was one of the best teams in the NBA with LeBron James and one of the worst the very next year without LeBron James.

You could also argue that LeBron James' last Cleveland team with a bunch of supposed scrubs had a better regular season record than this current Miami team with all their stars. Making Anderson Varejao more valuable than Chris Bosh.

See how that works? Correlation does not equal Causation. The 2010-11 Cavaliers not only lost James very late in the Free Agency period, but were just completely destroyed by injury. Not to mention also losing Shaq and Delote West (two starters last year) to free agency.

El Guapo
06-11-2011, 11:00 AM
"If Dallas wins, they'll be one of the worst champions of all-time"

- Colin Cowherd

I'm sorry, but are you ****ing kidding me? This guy has lost ALL credibility with me (not like he had a lot to begin with).

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 11:27 AM
Deshawn Stevenson takes my trolling to real life.

If you thought the Dallas Mavericks were going to let sleeping dogs lie, think again.

DeShawn Stevenson made headlines earlier in the week when he said LeBron James 'checked out' in Game 4 of the NBA Finals, but he's not stopping there.

Stevenson wrote on his Facebook wall early Saturday morning: “I told em Lebron is Overrated but did they listen? swag.”

Referring to James' inability to come through in the clutch for his team and the 'swag' reference is the mentality that Stevenson and the Mavs are not intimidated by James whatsoever.

This is a smart move by Stevenson. He knows that Game 6 is the biggest game of James' career and he hasn't fared well in pressurized situations of late. Also, if past history repeats itself, the Mavs are on their way to their first NBA championship.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 11:42 AM
When forced to generate offense with a halfcourt set, Miami averages 0.93 points per play in the first three quarters of the Finals, but that number falls to 0.79 in the 4th quarter. Among the "Big 3", LeBron James is 3-15 FG in halfcourt sets, Chris Bosh is 5-16 and Dwyane Wade is 9-20.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 11:52 AM
Dirk on the Wade/James coughing video, "I thought it was a little childish and a little ignorant."

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 12:28 PM
CHOSEN ONE

http://i56.tinypic.com/kcmcfp.jpg

OrangeSe7en
06-11-2011, 12:30 PM
So I'm an "amateur pshychologist" because I used the word "let's"?

Im not exactly sure why it is but you're obsessed with addressing the audience and not the subject. Someone previously called you thought police and they were really on point. You really are like that. I addressed the term paper tiger idea as an argument that someone might have and you automatically launched into some assumption that you know where Im coming from. You were wrong. Maybe you should worry more about the subject than the psychology of the masses.


So you suggest he's a paper tiger and then claim you aren't suggesting he is one? I'm going to recommend that going forward you don't suggest things that you don't want to suggest. Just a thought.

You started rattling off stats as a way of offering some apology for his disappearance in the 4th qtr. The rebuttal to that this is what paper tigers do. I can address the argument without necessarily having that it as a firmly held belief. I'm able and allowed to do that.



Of course I am, it's 100% factually correct! They went from being one of the best teams with him to one of the worst without him.

As Inkana pointed out to you, Cleveland didnt just lose him. They lost a number of other players including their coach and, again, as I mentioned a big part of why they were in such a bad place is because he screwed them over by making his stupid announcement so late in FA even while knowing he would be going to Miami all along.



I'll grant you this point. But I've never disagreed with this. I've stated multiple times that he hasn't gotten it done against Dallas and needs to do better. Just like guys like Karl Malone and David Robinson and Charles Barkley and Clyde Drexler didn't get it done multiple times in their careers.

Actually, Robinson did play on a championship team in 99. But aside from that inaccuracy, the other guys were denied by going up against Jordan. It's actually excusable in their cases.



I'm not having trouble grasping anything. I disagree that most comments are only "challening his character". And as for my "typical rebuttal" I've agreed that he hasn't had a good finals. My "rebuttal" is that he's a better player than many give him credit for being and that it's silly for people to direct so much time and energy to hating the guy. To me the biggest thing he's guilty of in these finals is deferring to Wade too much and playing far too unselfishly. I can't explain why he's not doing more of what he did against Chicago. Can you?

Actually, you really seem to be struggling with context. I saw someone point this out to you before. Check out the thread title. When people see a suggested comparison between Jordan and James, its not really even unreasonable to say James sucks. Youre not understanding (for all of your amatuer psychology) that this is what people are thinking about when clicking the thread to make a comment. They're not looking at things the way you're trying to frame them (which actually isnt even on topic). If the thread title was about comparinig LeBron James to, say, Shawn Marion, you'd likely get a lot less, "he sucks".

So, no, don't tell me "I'm not having trouble grasping anything". That's clearly not the case.


But to answer your question, Wilt Chamberlain once said, "Nobody roots for Goliath." I wonder if James' problem is his psychological dilemma that he created for himself. James goes back and forth between wanting to be liked and embracing the role of the villain. He's had to embrace the role of the villain because of the mess he created last summer. Its coping. But on the other hand, he was also in the "what should I do" ad by Nike. So, basically, if there are times when he's not asserting himself when on the precupice of accomplishing what he went to Miami to do, it could be because he really wants to be liked and feels that he's on the verge of being even more disliked if he wins.

Im really not sure why LeBron does what he does though. Youre the amateur psychologis.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 12:48 PM
Just rewatched the the first quarter and there's something awfully weird about Wade's injury. He bangs into cardinal and then plays 5 or 6 plays without any limp whatsoever, no grimacing, takes shots.

Then suddenly there's a time out and OH MY GOD PAIN AND I COLLAPSE.

Smacks of Wade bull****.

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-11-2011, 12:54 PM
His left hip never came in contact with Cardinal.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 12:58 PM
His left hip never came in contact with Cardinal.

This, also. And he falls on his butt, square.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 01:05 PM
Man...Dwayne Wade...you are a huge piece of human trash.

"First of all, it wasn't fake-coughing," Wade said. "I actually did cough. And with the cameras being right there, we made a joke out of it because we knew you guys were going to blow it up. You did exactly what we knew.

"We never said Dirk's name. I think he's not the only one in the world who can get sick or have a cough. We just had fun with the cameras being right in our face about the blow up of the incident, and it held to be true. You blew it up."

In other news...Stevenson is way too tatted up to be on the internet.

MIAMI – DeShawn Stevenson does not have a Facebook page.

That’s newsworthy because somebody who claims to be Stevenson posted on Facebook: “I told em Lebron is Overrated but did they listen? swag.”

Coach Rick Carlisle caught wind of that and confronted Stevenson, telling him to stop talking trash about LeBron James. Stevenson, whose history of taking verbal jabs at King James goes back several years, was confused and told his coach that the latest comment didn’t come from him.

“There’s like 37 people that are acting like me on Facebook,” Stevenson said. “I mean, if you look at me and look at all these tattoos, do you think I’d be sitting on the Internet and typing? C’mon, man. Sometimes you’ve got to look at a person. I would not be in my house on a computer typing nothing about anybody.”

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 02:52 PM
His left hip never came in contact with Cardinal.

Lets not forget what his "injury" was: a bruise.

Dude had a bruise on his hip and left an NBA Finals game.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/raw120/d-wade2.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 02:53 PM
Man...Dwayne Wade...you are a huge piece of human trash.

Quote:
"First of all, it wasn't fake-coughing," Wade said. "I actually did cough. And with the cameras being right there, we made a joke out of it because we knew you guys were going to blow it up. You did exactly what we knew.

"We never said Dirk's name. I think he's not the only one in the world who can get sick or have a cough. We just had fun with the cameras being right in our face about the blow up of the incident, and it held to be true. You blew it up."

Wade is more stupid than I thought.

You can't do something like that and not expect some blowback. Especially with James acting like 40 Dog the yuck monkey.

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 03:04 PM
I'm watching James' press conference right now.

I think that he is probably a decent guy, but he's not very smart at all. He talks like he has things explained to him like he's a child. He seems like a fun loving, friendly type, but just doesn't have it upstairs to be able to figure it out when things get confusing. That makes me wonder if his handlers are really picking his pockets.

Its too bad he had to ruin his reputation with such short-sighted and unintelligent decisions.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 03:35 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/jrtkrt.jpg

Doggcow
06-11-2011, 03:37 PM
Love clownin on the heat

Inkana7
06-11-2011, 03:44 PM
Lets not forget what his "injury" was: a bruise.

Dude had a bruise on his hip and left an NBA Finals game.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e115/raw120/d-wade2.jpg

Dude, do you even know what a knee or hip bruise means? It's not some owwie that you get when your girlfriend hits you too hard. Those things hurt pretty bad.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 03:46 PM
Especially when your right up suffers the impact and the pain is transferred to the left hip. Those are excruciating.

OrangeSe7en
06-11-2011, 03:58 PM
Quote:


Wade is more stupid than I thought.

You can't do something like that and not expect some blowback. Especially with James acting like 40 Dog the yuck monkey.

After his world trade center comment, did you really need any more proof? Notice how he tries to use "the dog ate my homework" excuses now just like he did back then.

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 04:19 PM
Does James have 6 toes?

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7632/lebronpregame700x639.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 04:23 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/egzjae.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 04:25 PM
Dude, do you even know what a knee or hip bruise means? It's not some owwie that you get when your girlfriend hits you too hard. Those things hurt pretty bad.

I played sports in Texas on rock hard ground in cleats for years. I developed bone bruises on my heels. Those don't go away. As a dadgum teenager I played on those things. Never left a game because I never thought it was that bad.

Wade got a bruise (not a bone bruise) on his hip. Its like getting a bit more of a charlie horse. Is it sore? Yes. Should it make you fall to the ground in agony like you're going to cry? Yes. If you are a wuss.

Its just ironic that Wade criticized Dirk for playing sick (when Dirk tried to play down playing with a fever), while Wade over dramatized his bruise. Wade has been known to exaggerate injuries for years.

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 04:47 PM
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Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 04:54 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/2envsdy.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 04:59 PM
****.

ABC & ESPN: Don't tell anyone, but if there's a Game 7, Disney makes an extra $110 billion (all numbers approximate). You might see everyone on Dallas foul out in Game 6. I think Tyson Chandler already has 2 fouls and the game doesn't start for another 48 hours.

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-11-2011, 05:26 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/egzjae.jpg

I WANT A FOUL!!!!

(not even touched)

Maven?

oubronco
06-11-2011, 05:30 PM
ABC & ESPN: Don't tell anyone, but if there's a Game 7, Disney makes an extra $110 billion (all numbers approximate). You might see everyone on Dallas foul out in Game 6. I think Tyson Chandler already has 2 fouls and the game doesn't start for another 48 hours.

Exactly why alot of poeple think the NBA is rigged

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 05:43 PM
<HEADER>
Wade, LeBron excuse for mocking Dirk worse than act itself

Maybe you missed the latest, where LeBron and his partner in dumb, Dwyane Wade (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/400578/dwyane-wade), mocked Dirk Nowitzki (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/20622/dirk-nowitzki) for daring to be sick during the NBA Finals. That twosome was caught on video (http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/29921671) walking around the Mavericks' home arena -- Dirk's house -- with shirts over their faces, coughing, asking each other, "Did you hear me cough?"

And giggling.

And when I say they were "caught," that's not really accurate. They weren't busted. They walked out of their locker room Thursday, saw the cameras, and on cue broke into the Walking Flu act. It was choreographed, obviously.

And they did it again Saturday, when the media found the time and place to ask James and Wade -- and also Nowitzki, who was understandably put off -- about the video. James and Wade met the media individually, each spending roughly 10 minutes in front of cameras. Wade was asked 15 questions. James was asked 11.

Both players coughed while listening to one question, and only one question. You know which question.

James went even farther. As the question unfolded and he heard the magic words about "a video circulating that's gathering buzz," James sniffed loudly. Then he grabbed his shirt and pulled it over his face. Then he turned and coughed.

You see what's happening, right? James and Wade think they have this inside joke, this secret little gag that nobody else is smart enough to pick up on. Then when the world does pick up on it -- because they're just not that clever -- they get defensive.

But mocking Nowitzki? Him? He's the nicest guy on the floor, and he's playing with a torn tendon in a finger, and he played Game 4 with a 101-degree fever. And Nowitzki has downplayed both issues, saying the injury and the illness would have no bearing before the games even began.

When he was asked Saturday about being mocked, Nowitzki also had a physical reaction, though he didn't theatrically cough as James and Wade had. He smiled. Broke into a big ol' grin, just for a second, then swallowed it.

Then he devoured James and Wade in eight words, speaking as he has been scoring. Efficiently. Brutally.

"It was a little childish," Nowitzki said. "A little ignorant."

Childish fits, seeing how James is Peter Pan, living in a make-believe world where sycophants kiss his ass. He never grew up, and maybe never will. Sadly, classy Dwyane Wade hasn't been a good influence on James. Nope. James is dragging Wade down to his level. They're Peter Pan and Tinkerbell.

These are your best players, Miami Heat fans. This is your team. You damn well better like them.

Who else could? </HEADER>

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/15223821/wade-lebron-excuse-for-mocking-dirk-worse-than-act-itself

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 05:50 PM
Damn, what a shock jock. LOL

SoCalBronco
06-11-2011, 05:54 PM
Maven?

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-11-2011, 05:54 PM
If only there was a Heat fan to come in here and defend these clowns...

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 05:58 PM
Heat players on practicing to defend Dirk:

"Can't nobody simulate Dirk," Haslem said. "He's unique and pretty much one of a kind ...The only way you get practice against Dirk is to practice against Dirk."

Maybe Juwan Howard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/351/juwan-howard) said it best: "You can't simulate Dirk, just like you can't simulate Michael [Jordan]."

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4679718/defending-dirk-nowitzki-is-a-problem

OrangeCrush2724
06-11-2011, 07:21 PM
Whats there to defend, Bob's diarrhea? We all have better use of our time. Series is still open. Mavs are in good spot, let's see if they have the killer instinct on Sunday.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 09:55 PM
Evil Dirk

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251117_151874978217938_100001863090853_330659_2638 731_n.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 10:26 PM
Evil Dirk

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251117_151874978217938_100001863090853_330659_2638 731_n.jpg

Ugh...thats awful.

http://www.paranormalgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/vomit.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-11-2011, 10:36 PM
Gives you a good appreciation for what Cavs fans must feel.

epicSocialism4tw
06-11-2011, 11:18 PM
Gives you a good appreciation for what Cavs fans must feel.

Yuck.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 01:59 AM
**** you, Wade.

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Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 03:12 AM
HEY!

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vancejohnson82
06-12-2011, 04:39 AM
Bob essentially gave up on the series when it was 2-1....and now hes cocky

worst type of fans...rooting for the Heat just to watch him disappear from this thread with his tail between his legs

talk about childish and ignorant

El Guapo
06-12-2011, 05:20 AM
Once again, basing a fan base on 1 person, Bob, is childish and ignorant itself. Good job.

Go mavs!

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2011, 05:25 AM
Bob essentially gave up on the series when it was 2-1....and now hes cocky

worst type of fans...rooting for the Heat just to watch him disappear from this thread with his tail between his legs

talk about childish and ignorant

He's messing with the Heat fans.

Trolling for trolls if you will.

vancejohnson82
06-12-2011, 05:35 AM
Once again, basing a fan base on 1 person, Bob, is childish and ignorant itself. Good job.

Go mavs!

never said anything about the Mavs fanbase...was talking about fans that bail on their team when the going gets tough

go Heat

DHallblows
06-12-2011, 07:56 AM
never said anything about the Mavs fanbase...was talking about fans that bail on their team when the going gets tough

go Heat

You're seriously complaining about Bob when Maven exists hmmm...

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 10:13 AM
never said anything about the Mavs fanbase...was talking about fans that bail on their team when the going gets tough

go Heat

I never disappeared from this thread. Not like Maven.

He's a little bitch.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 10:24 AM
http://i52.tinypic.com/vndvf8.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 10:40 AM
NO.

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Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 12:01 PM
GERMAN MATH NERDS > LEBRON'S QUICK TWITCH MUSCLE FIBERS

The foundation for Nowitzki's shot — with his right elbow directed at the rim as if it were a compass — is physics. If the rim and the size of the ball is constant, the player's height is the lone variable. Geschwindner says that if Nowitzki's shot were a 47-degree arc — relatively flat — the radius of the ball would be the same as the radius of the ellipse of the rim as the ball approaches.

In other words, there is virtually no margin for error. If it is higher, about 60 degrees, the ellipse's radius increases — as does the chance that the ball will go in — without having to use much more strength.

"Everybody makes jokes about Dirk's rainbow shot, but the thing about it is he can make more mistakes with distance and left and right and the ball still goes in," Geschwindner said. "Understanding that, you can try more risky shots because you have more room for errors. It has nothing to do with talent — everything we teach is totally independent of talent. It's a rule system."

Requiem
06-12-2011, 12:05 PM
Bob essentially gave up on the series when it was 2-1....and now hes cocky

worst type of fans...rooting for the Heat just to watch him disappear from this thread with his tail between his legs

talk about childish and ignorant

Yeah, Bob and Llama have been trolling the whole time, as well as Maven.

Their comparison, takes and actions are just embarrassing.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 01:23 PM
Video of me praying:

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epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2011, 01:44 PM
Yeah, Bob and Llama have been trolling the whole time, as well as Maven.

Their comparison, takes and actions are just embarrassing.

Go away, gnat.

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2011, 01:46 PM
GERMAN MATH NERDS > LEBRON'S QUICK TWITCH MUSCLE FIBERS

If Nowitzki wins a title, he will have been the first player to learn to play the game completely independent of US-style prep/college coaching.

I don't think that we have truely seen the complete impact of the Dirk phenomenon. Just as the dream team inspired this generation of Euro stars, Dirk will be the standard bearer for the future.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 02:07 PM
Nowitzki has played in 19 games with the chance to eliminate an opponent, winning 12, including the last six in a row. Of those 19 chances, 12 have come on the road, where Dirk’s teams have been victorious on seven of those occasions, including the last four in a row.

In these close-out games, his averages of 25.7 points while hitting 50.8 percent of his shots, 41.3 percent of his 3-pointers, 92.5 percent of his free throws and grabbing 11.1 rebounds; all show a slight increase from his career playoff averages, other than a 0.3 drop in points scored. This would seem to imply he is not crushed by the pressure of the moment, but continues to play at the levels that delivered him the opportunity to put away a team in the first place.

DONUT 10: Perhaps more pertinent to Sunday’s Game 6 is how Dirk has performed in the three games he’s entered in these playoffs with a chance to end another team’s season, where the Mavs have not provided their opponents with a renewed sense of hope, standing at 3-0, with only the Portland victory coming on the road, as it must against Miami.

In these three games, Nowitzki is averaging 25.3 points on a 60.5 field-goal percentage, including 50 percent of his 3-pointers and 100 percent of his free throws to go with nine rebounds per game. Worth noting in both his points and rebounds is the fact that the Lakers’ game was all but over by the third quarter, meaning Dirk was not asked to carry his accustomed offensive load (note his 17 points).

OrangeSe7en
06-12-2011, 02:34 PM
ABC & ESPN: Don't tell anyone, but if there's a Game 7, Disney makes an extra $110 billion (all numbers approximate). You might see everyone on Dallas foul out in Game 6. I think Tyson Chandler already has 2 fouls and the game doesn't start for another 48 hours.


Whenever I think about the game tonight, I keep going back to this.

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2011, 03:03 PM
Randy Galloway lowers the boom:

"But then in Game 5 of this series, a few hours after his mocking of Dirk, Wade actually stooped to his old Hollywood-acting standby, attempting to grab attention by claiming a hip injury that the best HD cameras owned by ABC still haven't picked up.
I'm guessing, of course, but I'm also betting Wade faked that injury, because the record shows he's a serial drama queen actress"

Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/06/12/3145546/hateful-finals-an-nba-blessing.html#ixzz1P68LfviN

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 03:08 PM
I think the Telegram has much better writing than the News. Which surprises me, to be honest.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 03:58 PM
Dirk Nowitzki in close-out situations

This is Dirk Nowitzki's 23rd playoff series, and he's won 12 of the previous 22. Nowitzki's team is just 12-7 when they have a chance to close out a series, but they've never lost any of those series in which they failed to close out the first chance they got.

Three of the seven losses came against Portland in 2003, when the Mavs went up 3-0, then needed a seventh game to finish off the Blazers. Nowitzki is 4-0 in Game 7s, and also won a deciding Game 5 in his first playoff series in 2001, when the first round was still a best-of-five format. That one (in Utah) and one of his Game 7 victories (in San Antonio in 2006) came on the road.

Nowitzki's scoring average in close-out games isn't much different than in other playoff games, but he's rebounded better and been more efficient.

Rick Carlisle in close-out situations

This is Rick Carlisle's 18th playoff series as a head coach, and he's won 10 of the previous 17. Carlisle's teams are 10-3 in close-out situations and have never lost any of those series. Two of the losses came in Carlisle's first playoff series with Detroit in 2002, when the Pistons went up 2-0, but needed a deciding Game 5 to beat the Raptors.

Carlisle's teams are 3-0 in deciding Game 5s or Game 7s overall, including one win on the road. That came with the Pacers in Game 7 of the 2005 first round in Boston.

So neither Nowitzki nor Carlisle has ever lost a playoff series in which they were one win away.

LeBron James facing elimination

This is LeBron James' 17th playoff series, and he's won 11 of the previous 16. But James' teams are just 2-5 when facing elimination, and have never been able to come back and win any of those series.

The two wins came in Game 6 (at home) against Boston in 2008 and in Game 5 (at home) against Orlando in 2009. James is 0-2 in Game 7s, but both were played on the road (at Detroit in 2006 and at Boston in '08).

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 04:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/CReHX.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
06-12-2011, 04:21 PM
Before Game 6 against the Blazers, when the team was returning to the scene of one of their worst defeats ever, the team decided to hold a players only dinner at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. They traded stories, just like any group of friends. What they discovered was profound. All of them had stories about getting close to winning the finals, and just falling short. Peja spoke about being cheated out of the 2002 playoffs, the Tim Donaghy series, Jason Kidd talked about the 2001 finals, Dirk and Jet talked about 2006 and how close they were, Shawn Marion talked about the 2007 series with the Spurs when Amare Stoudemire's suspension kept them from advancing to the finals. Every player had a story, and every player, to a man, made a commitment that night. That commitment has followed this team. Terry has mentioned it several times. They became more than a group of friends that night.

They became a team.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/06/12/11/Mavericks-Did-you-know/landing_nbafinals2011.html?blockID=532114&feedID=4519

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 04:24 PM
Before Game 6 against the Blazers, when the team was returning to the scene of one of their worst defeats ever, the team decided to hold a players only dinner at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse. They traded stories, just like any group of friends. What they discovered was profound. All of them had stories about getting close to winning the finals, and just falling short. Peja spoke about being cheated out of the 2002 playoffs, the Tim Donaghy series, Jason Kidd talked about the 2001 finals, Dirk and Jet talked about 2006 and how close they were, Shawn Marion talked about the 2007 series with the Spurs when Amare Stoudemire's suspension kept them from advancing to the finals. Every player had a story, and every player, to a man, made a commitment that night. That commitment has followed this team. Terry has mentioned it several times. They became more than a group of friends that night.

They became a team.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/06/12/11/Mavericks-Did-you-know/landing_nbafinals2011.html?blockID=532114&feedID=4519

http://i55.tinypic.com/euezgn.jpg

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 05:32 PM
Lebron should crack under the immense pressure of tonight.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 05:37 PM
In preparation of a possible championship tonight, the Mavs had their NBA World Champion shirts and caps delivered to the American Airlines Arena in Miami today. The Heat had theirs delivered back in July.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 05:45 PM
Chalmers starting for Bibby.

Requiem
06-12-2011, 05:47 PM
Go away, gnat.

Fortunately, I'm not you.

If the Mavs choke, I'll expect you will be the one who goes "away."

FantomForce
06-12-2011, 05:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/CReHX.jpg

first great, and probably last thing Bob will ever post

Missouribronc
06-12-2011, 06:01 PM
Lebron should crack under the immense pressure of tonight.

Champions thrive. We'll see.

Unfortunately for your Mavericks, you've opened your mouth.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 06:05 PM
If Lebron has ANY balls he won't take more than 5 jumpers tonight.

Requiem
06-12-2011, 06:12 PM
LeBron will go ape**** tonight.

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 06:14 PM
BAREA

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 06:16 PM
God damn, Lebron has never been hotter in this series. I'm scared.

Requiem
06-12-2011, 06:17 PM
God damn these mojito lime wings I'm baking are gonna be the tits.

Requiem
06-12-2011, 06:18 PM
lebron will throw up forty.

Requiem
06-12-2011, 06:22 PM
hey bob what's up.

how does it feel to cheer for a guy whose ancestors were a part of the final solution. Any guilt at all?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 06:26 PM
hey bob what's up.

how does it feel to cheer for a guy whose ancestors were a part of the final solution. Any guilt at all?

Dirk is in Miami for an ethnic cleansing mother****er.

Requiem
06-12-2011, 06:28 PM
dirk is gonna get a vasectomy tonight

nothing ever came from mavericks seed

gunns
06-12-2011, 06:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/CReHX.jpg

Hmmm, seems to me that they all got what they wanted as it was within them the whole time. Just wondering who the Wizard is.

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 06:32 PM
Did they frisk Terry before the game? I know in Game 5 HE WAS DROPPING DAGGERS ON THE COURT.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 06:44 PM
LOL

LOL

LOL

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 06:49 PM
So that BULL**** last game was a foul when LEBRON forarmed dallas last game, but when Chalmers CLEARLY pushes off... No foul?

**** off.

oubronco
06-12-2011, 06:53 PM
The league called told the Mavs to ease up so it can go 7 games

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 06:54 PM
DESHAWN STEVENSON FIGHTS FOR YOU CLEVELAND

Los Broncos
06-12-2011, 06:54 PM
Fight! Why did they cut out to commer

oubronco
06-12-2011, 07:04 PM
That should be a fine on Wade for that BS

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 07:04 PM
Weird that Dirk, Kidd and Barea weren't in on the fight.

bombay
06-12-2011, 07:05 PM
hey bob what's up.

how does it feel to cheer for a guy whose ancestors were a part of the final solution. Any guilt at all?

Idiotic remark, even to slob bob. Dirk was born in 1970.

Were your ancestors slave owners? Bull**** question, isnt it?

bombay
06-12-2011, 07:06 PM
So that BULL**** last game was a foul when LEBRON forarmed dallas last game, but when Chalmers CLEARLY pushes off... No foul?

**** off.

Five vs. eight. The league a) wants game 7 and b) wants miami

oubronco
06-12-2011, 07:08 PM
Five vs. eight. The league a) wants game 7 and b) wants miami

Yep

Requiem
06-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Idiotic remark, even to slob bob. Dirk was born in 1970.

Were your ancestors slave owners? Bull**** question, isnt it?

Bob got the jest in it.

Lighten up or have your balls drop. Either way.

Requiem
06-12-2011, 07:14 PM
and no slave owners in my fam

bombay
06-12-2011, 07:15 PM
Dirk is 1-11 from the field.

bombay
06-12-2011, 07:15 PM
and no slave owners in my fam

sorry if I gave the impression that I give a ****.

bombay
06-12-2011, 07:19 PM
Bob got the jest in it.

Lighten up or have your balls drop. Either way.

Gist. Gist of it.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 07:20 PM
If Dirk wakes up the Heat are screwed. Wade is doing jack in this game.

OrangeSe7en
06-12-2011, 07:20 PM
lebron will throw up forty.

Do you mean, he'll throw up after drinking a 40?

OrangeSe7en
06-12-2011, 07:25 PM
hey bob what's up.

how does it feel to cheer for a guy whose ancestors were a part of the final solution. Any guilt at all?

Dirk macht frei.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 07:42 PM
Maven?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 07:48 PM
Eat **** James. EAT A GIANT PILE OF PREHISTORIC ****

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 07:51 PM
20-7 for Miami on freethrows...

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 07:54 PM
**** YOU WADE

SoCalBronco
06-12-2011, 07:56 PM
Haha.....Bob can almost taste it.

Keep it going, Mavs.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-12-2011, 07:57 PM
Finally!

D-Whistle finally got a T for yelling at the ref.

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:01 PM
Marion with an "Awww ****"

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:04 PM
LeBrick

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:04 PM
35 seconds of Lebron left.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:05 PM
MAHINI THE JUMP SHOOTING BIG MAN

COME WIN THIS BITCH DIRK

bombay
06-12-2011, 08:07 PM
Not 1.. not 2... not 3... not 4... not 5.... not 6..... not 7.....

Not any?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:07 PM
Maven?

http://otonly.com/x0411/LeChoke.jpg

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:13 PM
10 freethrows to 31 freethrows...

COME THE **** ON NBA

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:14 PM
JJ!!!!!!!!!!

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:16 PM
after 3 quarters...Brian Cardinal +16 and LeBron James -20...

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:20 PM
Is Wade choking again like Maven said he would?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:22 PM
JJ Barea: 15 points

Lebron James: 14 points

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:30 PM
These refs are an abomination.

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:34 PM
Travel...

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:37 PM
Maven?

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:37 PM
DIIIIIIIIIIIIRK BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-12-2011, 08:38 PM
Oh my god. Please, please, please, please do this.

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-12-2011, 08:39 PM
Following this team for so long, I cannot tell you what this means to me. Like Broncos getting over Green Bay. Please. Please. Give them this moment.

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:39 PM
Dagger!!!!

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:40 PM
Oh comeon now that was ridiculous

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:40 PM
GO WHITE GUYS

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:41 PM
Miami gives up HAHAHA!!!!!

HooptyHoops
06-12-2011, 08:42 PM
Wow! Great win for the Mavs!

ohiobronco2
06-12-2011, 08:42 PM
Way to go Mavericks. FVCK YOU LeBron.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
06-12-2011, 08:42 PM
Biggest Choke in NBA history. Hahaha.

ohiobronco2
06-12-2011, 08:43 PM
GO WHITE GUYS

Hilarious!

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:43 PM
Miami couldn't win even with the help of the refs HAHAHA!!!

Maven?

TDmvp
06-12-2011, 08:44 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs6/2477331_o.gif

YES !!!!!!!!!!!

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:45 PM
Dynasty my ass!

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:46 PM
Maven?

Man-Goblin
06-12-2011, 08:46 PM
Woohoo. Congrats to the Mavs and their fans. That was pretty freaking awesome.

Doggcow
06-12-2011, 08:47 PM
I bet Maven bitched out and made a new account.

Boobs McGee
06-12-2011, 08:48 PM
Congrats Rulon!!!!! You guys finally pulled one out!!! And a big FU to Lebron.

Glad you guys finally got a ring, enjoy the hardware ^5

Boobs McGee
06-12-2011, 08:49 PM
I bet Maven b****ed out and made a new account.

Hahaha probly. Take your medicine like a man pussy!

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:49 PM
So, this probably means the Chiefs are winning the next Super Bowl.

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:50 PM
In preparation of a possible championship tonight, the Mavs had their NBA World Champion shirts and caps delivered to the American Airlines Arena in Miami today. The Heat had theirs delivered back in July.

They must feel really stupid about now for believing the hype Hilarious!

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:50 PM
http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab162/soulnmysole/blame.jpg

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-12-2011, 08:51 PM
Congrats to the Mavs and their fans on a much-deserved championship.

And, most important of all, thanks for preventing LeQuit and those douche bags in Miami from getting a trophy they didn't deserve. :thumbsup:

Rulon Velvet Jones
06-12-2011, 08:51 PM
Crying...a little. I'm numb. This is incredible. I never thought I'd see the day.

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:52 PM
Props Bob for bitchslapping Maven all over this thread

OrangeCrush2724
06-12-2011, 08:52 PM
Congratulations.

Bob's your Information Minister
06-12-2011, 08:53 PM
It's dusty in here.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-12-2011, 08:53 PM
10 freethrows to 31 freethrows...

COME THE **** ON NBA

Even all that help from the refs couldn't put LeQuit & Co. over the top!

Ha ha ha! :giggle:

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
06-12-2011, 08:55 PM
http://palahniukcentral.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/choke_full.gif

oubronco
06-12-2011, 08:55 PM
There is no I in Team LeBrick Hilarious!