UK Progressive Leader: Children are Better off Smothered to Death than Handicapped

[epicSocialism4tw]

Check out this progressive liberal wacko and her opinion that handicapped children are better off smothered with a pillow than to be left to live.

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Shades of GB Shaw and the Eugenics movement? Why is abortion always tied into eugenics? Planned Parenthood, the world's largest abortion provider, was started by a racist Eugenicist who wanted to eliminate African Americans.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

She didn't say "handicapped child" - she said "deeply/horribly suffering child."

McLiar is still a dishonest smear artist. tsk tsk

[DBruleU]

She didn't say "handicapped child" - she said "deeply/horribly suffering child."

McLiar is still a dishonest smear artist. tsk tsk

LOL

That makes it better.

[DenverBrit]

UK Progressive Leader?? Hilarious!

She's a gossip/advice columnist....like Dear Abbey. McLiar strikes again with more lies and nonsense. :loopy:

Virginia Ironside the columnist and celebrated agony aunt of The Independent newspaper has caused outrage this morning by saying that she, like all "good mothers", would put a pillow over the head of her baby if it was suffering from a disability and would have a poor quality of life.

[DenverBrit]

LOL

That makes it better.

When quoting someone, accuracy is everything.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL

That makes it better.

You can have that debate if you want.

The point is that your BFF McLiar deliberately misrepresented the content of the video he posted.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

UK Progressive Leader?? Hilarious!

She's a gossip/advice columnist....like Dear Abbey. McLiar strikes again with more lies and nonsense. :loopy:

Ha!

I'm surprised Rupert Murdoch hasn't signed this guy to a fat contract - he's the living embodiment of the Fox News model.

[DenverBrit]

Ha!

I'm surprised Rupert Murdoch hasn't signed this guy to a fat contract - he's the living embodiment of the Fox News model.

At first, I thought he was just a chronic or compulsive liar, but digging a little deeper, he appears to be a Sociopath.

A poll question?

A Sociopath

A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways.

Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship (see, how to cope with a compulsive liar).

[TDmvp]

You can have that debate if you want.





That's a crappy debate to have to have... I mean I understand I guess if a adult wants to take their own life because they have a illness that is hopeless but how do we make that call for/with children/babies ...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Philosopher Harry G. Frankfurt wrote this book with people like McDrama in mind...

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/98/22/29b7228348a05988d7bed010.L._AA300_.jpg

Bullsh*tting, as he notes, is not exactly lying, and bullsh*t remains bullsh*t whether it's true or false. The difference lies in the bullsh*tter's complete disregard for whether what he's saying corresponds to facts in the physical world: he "does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullsh*t is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are."

[barryr]

This woman is defending abortion and even has stated that most "adopted kids would rathe be dead." She is a nutjob, buit figures liberals around here woudl defend this sick creature. Too bad her mother didn't abort her ass then seeing how she is "sick" in the head.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This woman is defending abortion....

Barryr's team, on the other hand...

At least 78 GOP candidates would force women to bear rapists’ babies (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/78-gop-candidates-force-rapists-babies/)

[barryr]

Most liberals sure have a fixation of wanting to kill babies and children.

[Spider]

Check out this progressive liberal wacko and her opinion that handicapped children are better off smothered with a pillow than to be left to live.

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Shades of GB Shaw and the Eugenics movement? Why is abortion always tied into eugenics? Planned Parenthood, the world's largest abortion provider, was started by a racist Eugenicist who wanted to eliminate African Americans.
you are a compulsive liar ...... guess u just cant help yourself

[bronco militia]

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[Rohirrim]

More proof of the drama llama's lack of character. As if more was needed. :pity:

[ghwk]

More proof of the drama llama's lack of character. As if more was needed. :pity:

He also hates gays and won't stand up for his religion. Very poor character.

[sirhcyennek81]

She didn't say "handicapped child" - she said "deeply/horribly suffering child."

McLiar is still a dishonest smear artist. tsk tsk


Yeah...til you see the reaction of the two women on the stage with her. Apparently they knew what she meant by "horribly suffering".


:Broncos:

[epicSocialism4tw]

Wow! Look at all the liberal wackos coming into this thread to attack the messenger and try to smear!

I would point out their blatant double standard, but I dont think that they really have any standards.

I must be doing something good if all of the local wackjobs hate everything I say.

[Rohirrim]

Wow! Look at all the liberal wackos coming into this thread to attack the messenger and try to smear!

I would point out their blatant double standard, but I dont think that they really have any standards.

I must be doing something good if all of the local wackjobs hate everything I say.

What a sniveling turd.

[epicSocialism4tw]

What a sniveling turd.

This is what you have been reduced to, eh?

You cant defend the ridiculous opinions of people like this miserable woman, so you just attack the mesenger.

[Rohirrim]

This is what you have been reduced to, eh?

You cant defend the ridiculous opinions of people like this miserable woman, so you just attack the mesenger.

What do I care what some British idiot says? You have no character. No standards. No ethics. Your "christian" stance is a hypocrisy and a lie. This woman represents nothing but herself and the rag she works for. You are the kind of slime that makes the world a worse place to live in.

BTW, soccer is ghey. It fits you.

[DenverBrit]

Wow! Look at all the liberal wackos coming into this thread to attack the messenger and try to smear!

I would point out their blatant double standard, but I dont think that they really have any standards.

I must be doing something good if all of the local wackjobs hate everything I say.

Nah, just cleaning up your mess again, McLiar.

http://www.foilface.com/musicblog/uploaded_images/doggie-pooper-scooper-788328.jpg

[ghwk]

I have never seen a self professed Christian filled with so much hate. The evidence is in the prolific number of threads daily started by McJudas with no other intent than to raise the ire of people. They are pointed, baiting, and troll worthy and serve little purpose other than to feed his inner demons and sense of self rightousness. Once again I feel for the kids you have access to and brainwash. Do you even work? Your whole day must be spent scouring the net for the drivel you serve up.

[epicSocialism4tw]

What do I care what some British idiot says? You have no character. No standards. No ethics. Your "christian" stance is a hypocrisy and a lie. This woman represents nothing but herself and the rag she works for. You are the kind of slime that makes the world a worse place to live in.

BTW, soccer is ghey. It fits you.

This is the genesis of the Abortion industry in the US, folks:

"Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as "unfit," a plan she said would be the "salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were "irresponsible and reckless," among whom she included those " whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers." She further contended that "there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." That many Americans of African origin constituted a segment of Sanger considered "unfit" cannot be easily refuted."


http://blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

[Rohirrim]

There may have been some doubt in the past, but the drama llama is now officially nothing but a troll.

[ghwk]

There may have been some doubt in the past, but the drama llama is now officially nothing but a troll.

You think if we just stop responding he will go away?

[Rohirrim]

You think if we just stop responding he will go away?

No. Narcissists never quit. They always have themselves to tell them how wonderful they are.

[epicSocialism4tw]

You think if we just stop responding he will go away?

It would be even better if you put me on ignore.

[JJJ]

UK Progressive Leader?? Hilarious!

She's a gossip/advice columnist....like Dear Abbey. McLiar strikes again with more lies and nonsense. :loopy:

Who is the liar here? McSkillet never called her a UK Progressive leader. You did!

He called her a Progressive liberal wacko which is exactly what she is.

Ohh, and remember "When quoting someone, accuracy is everything".

Classic, lefties arguing with themselves about their own mistakes.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Who is the liar here? McSkillet never called her a UK Progressive leader. You did!

He called her a Progressive liberal wacko which is exactly what she is.

Ohh, and remember "When quoting someone, accuracy is everything".

Classic, lefties arguing with themselves about their own mistakes.

She is a progressive writer and is considered a leadership personality in the UK progressive movement.

[DenverBrit]

Who is the liar here? McSkillet never called her a UK Progressive leader. You did!

He called her a Progressive liberal wacko which is exactly what she is.

Ohh, and remember "When quoting someone, accuracy is everything".

Classic, lefties arguing with themselves about their own mistakes.

Who's the liar? McLiar is.

You on the other hand, well you can't read. Ha!

Here....check the thread title and tell me again that I'm the liar.

UK Progressive Leader:

[DenverBrit]

She is a progressive writer and is considered a leadership personality in the UK progressive movement.

LOL

Keep spinning McLiar.

She's a "Dear Abbey" type of columnist. But you compound one lie with another.

From her website.


Home

Virginia Ironside

I’m not sure whether to say Good Morning, Good Afternoon or Good Evening, because I’ve no clue when you logged on, but I hope you will consider yourself duly greeted. Anyway, I’m delighted you’re here, so hello.

I’ve never thought of myself as a website kind of person, but here I am, joining the gang, and it’s all good fun. As well as being an agony aunt and columnist, I’ve also written quite a few books, and in the later years of my life it turns out that I’ve written enough books to merit the title of “writer” (!) so if you’d like to buy any on-line, feel free. You’ll find details about all of them on the books page.

You can find out all about my childhood by reading Janey and Me but in a nutshell, I was an only child, brought up by two very arty parents in the fifties.

Where am I at the moment? Single, 65, with one son, who plays in the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain (http://www.ukuleleorchestra.com). Not totally happy (but who is? Don’t let’s kid ourselves. Many more of us wake up in the morning dreading the day ahead than would like to admit) and very, very lucky, in that I have two wonderful grandchildren and I’m still working. Like most people of my age, I don’t fear death, but fear getting old, mad, incapable and gaga.

The years after being 60 have, no question, been the happiest year of my life. That’s why I wrote No! I Don’t Want to Join a Bookclub, a fictional diary of being sixty and a grannie. In the summer of 2009 I put myself on stage at the Edinburgh Festival with a show based on my new book, The Virginia Monologues, 20 Reasons Why Growing Old is Great. and I hope to do more stage appearances. I feel really grateful that, for me at least, it does seem there is gold at the end of the rainbow. Well, don’t let’s go mad here. Not gold, perhaps, but certainly not a pile of old rubble. Isn’t that all one can ask?


and here is a list of her books.....full of "progressive" thinking....though they must be written in English because you don't understand a word. Hilarious!

http://www.virginiaironside.org/?page_id=5

This is the kind of "progressive" writer she is:

You’ll Get Over It: The Rage of Bereavement

I wrote this after my father died, having found absolutely no book that satisfied my needs. Stages of grief - shock, denial, numbness, guilt, rage, misery and resolution? Rubbish.

Finding God in Marriage Breakdown

And her godless, progressive charity booklets.

http://www.virginiaironside.org/?page_id=264

[Fedaykin]

Who is the liar here? McSkillet never called her a UK Progressive leader. You did!

He called her a Progressive liberal wacko which is exactly what she is.

Ohh, and remember "When quoting someone, accuracy is everything".

Classic, lefties arguing with themselves about their own mistakes.

Hey Einstein: You're gonna want to check the title of this thread.

Hilarious!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL

Keep spinning McLiar.

She's a "Dear Abbey" type of columnist. But you compound one lie with another.

From her website.



and here is a list of her books.....full of "progressive" thinking....though they must be written in English because you don't understand a word. Hilarious!

http://www.virginiaironside.org/?page_id=5

This is the kind of "progressive" writer she is:





I don't think I've even seen anyone on this board lie as consistently and as shamelessly as McDrama.

McDrama is the poster boy for the Fox News paradigm.

[ghwk]

It would be even better if you put me on ignore.

Still smarting over your religious betrayal!? Hilarious!

[Spider]

Who is the liar here? McSkillet never called her a UK Progressive leader. You did!

He called her a Progressive liberal wacko which is exactly what she is.

Ohh, and remember "When quoting someone, accuracy is everything".

Classic, lefties arguing with themselves about their own mistakes.

:rofl: you Idiot , learn to read

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

:rofl: you Idiot , learn to read

Ha!

He's programmed to knee-jerk to the defense of his fellow right-wing half-wits before he even knows what the thread is about.

[Spider]

Ha!

He's programmed to knee-jerk to the defense of his fellow right-wing half-wits before he even knows what the thread is about.

;D well I am Sure Barry and DBruleU can use the help

[epicSocialism4tw]

Still smarting over your religious betrayal!?

Its pathetic that you have to make things up to cover up the fact that you are a homophobe and are a sinner against the great god of liberals.

[Rohirrim]

Its pathetic that you have to make things up to cover up the fact that you are a homophobe and are a sinner against the great god of liberals.

Caught out, once again, with another of your poorly thought out, ignorant, reaction baiting threads and left throwing another tantrum, like some little toddler with his Pamper full of pee.

[TailgateNut]

You think if we just stop responding he will go away?


I've tried that with Jhiz, but others just wont allow the ****er to rot, which is to good of an end result for McDramaBiaotch. I wish someone would just club him like a baby seal!:approve:

[barryr]

Wait a minute. Just saw a liberal refer to soccer as being gay and it was no compliment, so obviously liberals while pretending to be so tolerant, think there is something wrong with being gay since it is so often used by them in a derogatory way. But it's liberals who think there is something wrong with religious people who badmouth homosexuality, yet here are typical liberals doing the same thing when they resort to calling people gay or things they don't like as gay. So liberals are no different when it comes to this subject, just yet another example(and the list is long) of hypocrisy on their part.

[TailgateNut]

Wait a minute. Just saw a liberal refer to soccer as being gay and it was no compliment, so obviously liberals while pretending to be so tolerant, think there is something wrong with being gay since it is so often used by them in a derogatory way. But it's liberals who think there is something wrong with religious people who badmouth homosexuality, yet here are typical liberals doing the same thing when they resort to calling people gay or things they don't like as gay. So liberals are no different when it comes to this subject, just yet another example(and the list is long) of hypocrisy on their part.

Idiot!

Go buy a "life".

[barryr]

Idiot!

Go buy a "life".

LOL, look who is talking. Truth hurts. I bet I could find posts from you calling people "gay" and not done in tolerance and love I bet LOL. Hypocrite.

[DenverBrit]

Its pathetic that you have to make things up to cover up the fact that you are a homophobe and are a sinner against the great god of liberals.

What's really pathetic is that 'irony' is a word you don't understand.

[DenverBrit]

LOL, look who is talking. Truth hurts. I bet I could find posts from you calling people "gay" and not done in tolerance and love I bet LOL. Hypocrite.

Truth? You? Ha!

Bet? You? ROFL!

What is it with you 'born again liars.'??

Do you clowns practice a version of 'Christianity' where the truth is considered sinful and therefore forbidden??

[Spider]

Wait a minute. Just saw a liberal refer to soccer as being gay and it was no compliment, so obviously liberals while pretending to be so tolerant, think there is something wrong with being gay since it is so often used by them in a derogatory way. But it's liberals who think there is something wrong with religious people who badmouth homosexuality, yet here are typical liberals doing the same thing when they resort to calling people gay or things they don't like as gay. So liberals are no different when it comes to this subject, just yet another example(and the list is long) of hypocrisy on their part.

LOL ....dont ever stop drinking , this **** is classic

[Spider]

Truth? You? Ha!

Bet? You? ROFL!

What is it with you 'born again liars.'??

Do you clowns practice a version of 'Christianity' where the truth is considered sinful and therefore forbidden??

LOL yeah cant believe he would use the word bet again after you punked his ass big time ........

[DenverBrit]

I've tried that with Jhiz, but others just wont allow the ****er to rot, which is to good of an end result for McDramaBiaotch. I wish someone would just club him like a baby seal!:approve:

Truth is, I think McLiar is a masochist and is trying to ouster Bob as the board's Pinata.

He likes the beatings. ;)

[TailgateNut]

LOL, look who is talking. Truth hurts. I bet I could find posts from you calling people "gay" and not done in tolerance and love I bet LOL. Hypocrite.


Yep, I do/ have used the phrase "That is Gay". So f-ing what. I think being gay is GAY/weird, but I don't advocate making it illegal as you clowns do. If someone wants to do it, so be it. It's still GHEY!

[DBruleU]

LOL

This place is classic. All the liberal BFF's come out of the woodwork to defend one another. You guys are pathetic defending each other. All you do is defend each other. Seriously, guys...stop defending one another. Honestly...this is the last time...don't defend your BFF's.

[DBruleU]

Yep, I do/ have used the phrase "That is Gay". So f-ing what. I think being gay is GAY/weird, but I don't advocate making it illegal as you clowns do. If someone wants to do it, so be it. It's still GHEY!

You must be challenged.

Can you show me where anyone said making the gay orientation "Illegal?"

[DenverBrit]

LOL yeah cant believe he would use the word bet again after you punked his ass big time ........

He does like to flap his gums but can't begin to back up his lies when challenged.

What a wuss!!

[TailgateNut]

LOL

This place is classic. All the liberal BFF's come out of the woodwork to defend one another. You guys are pathetic defending each other. All you do is defend each other. Seriously, guys...stop defending one another. Honestly...this is the last time...don't defend your BFF's.


Who the **** is defending anyone? You and your siblings are a f-ing joke. Why don't you do the world a favor and off yourselves.

[DBruleU]

He does like to flap his gums but can't begin to back up his lies when challenged.

What a wuss!!

Ahh...care to explain what you meant when you said he was too far to the right you're surprised there's a Christian bone in his body.

Hypocrite.

[DBruleU]

Who the **** is defending anyone? You and your siblings are a f-ing joke. Why don't you do the world a favor and off yourselves.

Ohhh...that wasn't very nice.

[TailgateNut]

You must be challenged.

Can you show me where anyone said making the gay orientation "Illegal?"

You and your Party of clowns are against DADT policy, against gay marriage, against anything GAY which isn't hidden in the darkness of a closet.

I personally don't care WTF people do, although I think it's Ghey to be Gay!

I know this may be a bit to complicated for your dumb ass, but maybe, if you, McDiddle and BarryR combine your gray matter, you might be able to understand.

[DenverBrit]

LOL

This place is classic. All the liberal BFF's come out of the woodwork to defend one another. You guys are pathetic defending each other. All you do is defend each other. Seriously, guys...stop defending one another. Honestly...this is the last time...don't defend your BFF's.

Ok, CremeBrulee, settle down, you're frothing.

McLiar got caught again being the liar he is.

If you're here to 'defend' him, then you're no better.

[DBruleU]

Ok, CremeBrulee, settle down, you're frothing.

McLiar got caught again being the liar he is.

If you're here to 'defend' him, then you're no better.

CremeBrulee, huh? That was a good one. My favorite dessert in fact.

[DenverBrit]

Ahh...care to explain what you meant when you said he was too far to the right you're surprised there's a Christian bone in his body.

Hypocrite.

I've explained it once.

And anyway, it's self explanatory....this thread is a classic example of what I meant.

Or do yo think being a chronic liar and smear artist is Christian??

[DBruleU]

You and your Party of clowns are against DADT policy, against gay marriage, against anything GAY which isn't hidden in the darkness of a closet.

I personally don't care WTF people do, although I think it's Ghey to be Gay!

I know this may be a bit to complicated for your dumb ass, but maybe, if you, McDiddle and BarryR combine your gray matter, you might be able to understand.

It may be gay, but there is no legislation making it illegal.

No one is being thrown in prison for being gay.

I think you're confusing keeping marriage how it's been for eternity with outlawing gays.

[DBruleU]

I've explained it once.

And anyway, it's self explanatory....this thread is a classic example of what I meant.

Or do yo think being a chronic liar and smear artist is Christian??

No - You didn't explain it. It was a very broad brush. You said TOO FAR RIGHT.

How does one go so far right they couldn't possibly have a Christian bone. What generic attributes do you attribute to being too far right you can't be a Christian?

You may THINK he's a chronic liar, smear artist, meanie, etc. But that's not what you originally said...you said he was too far right.

[DenverBrit]

No - You didn't explain it. It was a very broad brush. You said TOO FAR RIGHT.

How does one go so far right they couldn't possibly have a Christian bone. What generic attributes do you attribute to being too far right you can't be a Christian?

You may THINK he's a chronic liar, smear artist, meanie, etc. But that's not what you originally said...you said he was too far right.

Do you know what an 'opinion' means?

I was stating an 'opinion'....one that I have already explained more than once.

You don't like the explanation?

You think it 'too broad.'?

Do you really think I care??

[DenverBrit]

No - You didn't explain it. It was a very broad brush. You said TOO FAR RIGHT.

How does one go so far right they couldn't possibly have a Christian bone. What generic attributes do you attribute to being too far right you can't be a Christian?

You may THINK he's a chronic liar, smear artist, meanie, etc. But that's not what you originally said...you said he was too far right.

Like this:

"You will find liberals always rooting for savages against civilization." –Ann Coulter
"They didn't root for the Nazis against civilization." –Bill O'Reilly
"Oh yes they did. ... It was only when Hitler invaded their precious Soviet Union that at the last minute they came in and suddenly started saying oh no, now you have to fight Hitler." –Ann Coulter, "The O'Reilly Factor," May 7, 2010

"If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."


Let me know if you need more far right quotes from clowns who claim to be Christians. Are you always this obtuse??

[TailgateNut]

It may be gay, but there is no legislation making it illegal.

No one is being thrown in prison for being gay.

I think you're confusing keeping marriage how it's been for eternity with outlawing gays.

Oh, it's ok to toss soldiers from the service they have volunteered to perform so cowards like you can sit at home knitting sweaters for your poodle...

....and it's ok for you to marry someone you love, but according to you it's not violating someones civil rights when you legislate that they cannot...


....and how has marriage been for eternity? .....and what's wrong with evolving and changing and accepting? oooops, I almost forgot, we all got here on a magic carpet.

[Spider]

Like this:





Let me know if you need more far right quotes from clowns who claim to be Christians. Are you always this obtuse??

yep ..........

[epicSocialism4tw]

Wait a minute. Just saw a liberal refer to soccer as being gay and it was no compliment, so obviously liberals while pretending to be so tolerant, think there is something wrong with being gay since it is so often used by them in a derogatory way. But it's liberals who think there is something wrong with religious people who badmouth homosexuality, yet here are typical liberals doing the same thing when they resort to calling people gay or things they don't like as gay. So liberals are no different when it comes to this subject, just yet another example(and the list is long) of hypocrisy on their part.

That's the second liberal in the last three days to use a derogatory term for homosexuals here. Not to mention that LABF is a well-documented homophobe as well.

Rohomophobe, ghomophobewk, and LAhomophoBeF have all come out from behind their white hoods.

[barryr]

Truth? You? Ha!

Bet? You? ROFL!

What is it with you 'born again liars.'??

Do you clowns practice a version of 'Christianity' where the truth is considered sinful and therefore forbidden??

Born again? Here is the same jackass clown saying "I will bet your money you don't know how I vote" yet you don't know how I vote either or my religion either, yet what is it with "born again" ****? Just because I feel people should be allowed to practice their religion equally like anyone else doesn't make one automatically a practicing church member. So you can stick your typical liberal stereotyping Jimmy the Greek betting man LOL

[barryr]

Do you know what an 'opinion' means?

I was stating an 'opinion'....one that I have already explained more than once.

You don't like the explanation?

You think it 'too broad.'?

Do you really think I care??

Oh, but you bet on opinions like an idiot clown LOL

[barryr]

Yep, I do/ have used the phrase "That is Gay". So f-ing what. I think being gay is GAY/weird, but I don't advocate making it illegal as you clowns do. If someone wants to do it, so be it. It's still GHEY!

Sorry, can't have it both ways and no one here is saying anything about making it illegal either, so why wise up and stop being a hypocrital fool.

[barryr]

You and your Party of clowns are against DADT policy, against gay marriage, against anything GAY which isn't hidden in the darkness of a closet.

I personally don't care WTF people do, although I think it's Ghey to be Gay!

I know this may be a bit to complicated for your dumb ass, but maybe, if you, McDiddle and BarryR combine your gray matter, you might be able to understand.

While you just go around making fun of gay people apparently. You also want to allow them to have the same rights as others even though you obviously think their act is wrong and bad since you call people gay in a derogatory way. Really makes sense there, but you on the left live in the land of hypocrisy as it is, so why would this be any different.

[TailgateNut]

That's the second liberal in the last three days to use a derogatory term for homosexuals here. Not to mention that LABF is a well-documented homophobe as well.

Rohomophobe, ghomophobewk, and LAhomophoBeF have all come out from behind their white hoods.


You, of all people accusing anyone of wearing a white hoods is assinine. LOL

[TailgateNut]

While you just go around making fun of gay people apparently. You also want to allow them to have the same rights as others even though you obviously think their act is wrong and bad since you call people gay in a derogatory way. Really makes sense there, but you on the left live in the land of hypocrisy as it is, so why would this be any different.


Just as I stated, you are to ****ing stupid to understand that one can disagree with who/ what a person chooses, while stilll standing up for their individual civil rights.

You and the other inbred redneck righties just don't get it, and most likely, never will.

[ghwk]

LOL

This place is classic. All the liberal BFF's come out of the woodwork to defend one another. You guys are pathetic defending each other. All you do is defend each other. Seriously, guys...stop defending one another. Honestly...this is the last time...don't defend your BFF's.

Funny how you now have caught up on using BFF after you were busted for being up skillets skirt and running to his defense like a good spouse. you aren't even original.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Funny how you now have caught up on using BFF after you were busted for being up skillets skirt and running to his defense like a good spouse. you aren't even original.

Ha!

I noticed that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You and your Party of clowns are against DADT policy, against gay marriage, against anything GAY which isn't hidden in the darkness of a closet.


That's correct.

It's well known that McLiar's party is chock full of closeted gays who make their living denying rights to their fellow gays.

Just one example of the sort of hypocrisy embraced by moral retards like McLiar and DBruleU.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Good article explaining the psychology of McNitwit and his ilk...

Economic Inequity, Manufactured Populism, and the Bigot-Whisperers of the Right

by Phil Rockstroh | October 4, 2010 - 1:24am

I was born, at slightly past the midpoint of the Twentieth Century, in the deep south city of Birmingham, Alabama -- "The Heart of Dixie." My earliest memories are of a time of societal upheaval and cultural trauma. At the time, as the world witnessed and history chronicles, Birmingham could be an ugly, mean place. My father, employed at the time as a freelance photo-journalist, would arrive home from work, his clothes redolent of tear gas, his adrenal system locked in overdrive, his mind reeling, trying to make sense of the brutality he witnessed, perpetrated by both city officials and ordinary citizens, transpiring on the streets of the city.

The print and media images transmitted from Birmingham shocked and baffled the nation as well. But there was a hidden calculus underpinning the architecture of institutionalized hatred of the Jim Crow south. The viciousness of Birmingham's white underclass served the purpose of the ruling order. The city was controlled, in de facto colonial manner, by coal and steel barons whose seat of power was located up the Appalachian mountain chain in Pittsburgh, PA. The locals dubbed them the Big Mules. They resided in the lofty air up on Red Mountain; most everyone else dwelled down in the industrial smog. These social and economic inequities, perpetuated by exploitive labor practices, roiled Birmingham's white men with resentment. If they asked for higher wages, they were told: "I can hire any n*gg*r off the street for half of what I pay you." In the colonial model, all the big dollars flowed back to Pennsylvania, and economic rivalry and state-codified delusions of racial entitlement vis-à-vis Jim Crow Laws was used to insure the working class white majority rage at the ruling elite remained displaced -- their animus fixed on those with even less power and economic security than themselves. This was the poisoned cultural milieu, wherein George Wallace's "segregation today . . . segregation tomorrow . . . segregation forever" demagogic dirt kicking caused the embedded rage of the white working class to pour forth like fire ants from a trampled bed.

In a similar manner, manufactured controversies such as the gay marriage and gays in the military dust-ups of the present time have little to do with gays nor marriage nor the military. These issues are served as red meat to arouse the passions -- and loosen the purse strings -- of the fear-driven, status quo-enabling, confused souls residing at the center of the black spleen of the Republican ideological base.

Although, as a rule, the right's lies and displacements are most effective when liberals offer working people only bromides, platitudes, and lectures on propriety and good taste. Obama and the Democrats, time and time again, present demagogues with an opening the size of the cracks in Glen Beck's gray matter. Hence, the bigot-whisperers of the right are provided with a void that they can seed with false narratives; wherein, they are given free reign to cloud the air and clog the airwaves with palaver about fifth columnist threats from terrorist-toady mosque builders and gays in uniform undermining moral in the ranks by belting out show tunes in foxholes and impromptu shower stall instruction on the art of hand to hand sodomy.

Cultures are organic in nature. Combine the elements of the scorched earth policies of neoliberal capitalism, its austerity cuts and downsizing, plus the hybrid seeds of the consumer age -- and what alien foliage will rise from the degraded soil -- fields of right-wing astroturf. Add: industrial strength fertilizer. And see how our garden grows, with: Glen Beck and Sarah Palin -- the mutant seed sprouted Chia Pets of corporate oligarchy.

Yet the idea of Beck and Palin leading a populist, pitchforks and torches style uprising in the US is sheer fantasy. Most Americans wouldn't rally en mass unless they could bring their couches with them. It would look like The Prague Spring but held in a Rooms to Go showroom.

The recent demonstrations, in Washington, DC, attended by the ranks of the chronically discontent right, are about as populist as a vintage Soviet-era May Day parade was a celebration of the proletarian masses. By the informal design of our present oligarchs and the self-referential nature of the corporate owned media, US citizens have the right to say almost anything that is on their minds, as long as it has little to no effect on the status quo. If there was ever a mass movement that effectively challenged the nation's massive class inequity and threatened to reign in the excesses of the National Security State, it would be shut down faster than an open air, live sex show in the middle of Temple Square in Salt Lake City. Moreover, the mid-life snit-fest engendered by the fading political power of the country's white, middle class majority, as was the case with the racial resentment of the white underclass of my native Birmingham, serves the agenda of the moneyed elite. And its goals (which its rank and file seem ill-equipped to define i.e., vague resentments and inarticulate rage hardly constitutes an agenda for societal transformation and governmental reform) are equally as self-defeating in their ramifications for debt-beleaguered, economic security-bereft working people as were the racist displacement of rage embraced and perpetuated by the exploited, working class, white majority of the Jim Crow south. Working and middle class Republicans agitating for lower taxes for the wealthy is as silly as gaunt peasants, clutching torches and welding pitchforks, besieging Louis XVI's palace at Versailles, demanding their bread rations be cut so that the royal court could enjoy larger and more lavish feasts.

Part of the irrational fear arising from economically forsaken members of the white laboring class toward President Obama is informed by race. Another aspect of it is more inchoate, as evanescent as the nature of the man himself.

Obama seems no more real, nor connected with the concerns of their lives than any other ghost in the media hologram. But Glen Beck's flutterhead histrionics reflect their desperation. This is the seduction of any garden-variety demagogue: Although their narrative is fictive, even malevolent in its deception, the emotional tone resonates with the deep-seated, helpless rage and nebulous night terrors of their audience. Beck's community theatre actor's ability to cry on cue and work himself into a lather of outrage and anguish reflects the inner desperation of his audience's experiences regarding their powerlessness before the crushing, impersonal complexity of events.

My childhood, in Birmingham, bestowed the knowledge: do not underestimate the danger of ignorant, angry people in large groups.

The feelings of drift of contemporary life in the US: its media empires -- with content as weightless in meaning and resonance as the electrons that transport the images, and the internet's pixel fiefdoms, in combination with the ad hoc, fast-buck-driven architecture of suburban nothingvilles gives present day life in the US a flimsy, provisional quality. President Obama's aura of weightlessness, his quality of emotional remoteness, only exacerbates the nebulous sense of unease on the irrational right who think with their guts not their minds. Conversely, guns feel real to these adrift denizens of the nation's spleenland. The weapon’s weight in their hands wards off their unfocused sense of dread; its heft, momentarily, mitigates the unease inherent in feelings of being helplessly unmoored … Looking down the precise beauty of its barrel distills hazy hatreds into identifiable targets. Momentarily, the ground feels solid beneath their feet. Hence, guns must be stockpiled; massive amounts of ammunition stored for ballast. The mystifying events of the era ... so muffled by the white noise of uncertainty, must yield to something as clear and decisive as the crack of a rifle shot.

Human beings will never transcend being capable of dwelling in madness on a collective level. David Hare quotes Rebecca West, in the introduction to his play, The Secret Rapture:

"Only half of us is sane: only part of us loves ... [desires] happiness, wants to die in peace ... in a house that we built, that shall shelter those who come after us. The other half of us is nearly mad. It prefers the disagreeable to the agreeable ... and wants to die in a catastrophe ... and leave nothing of our house save its blackened foundations."

Because we, on a personal level, in most cases, chose the primary option, our hidden, shadow half can live out the latter on a collective basis. Empires gather their élan vital from such bacchanals of blood. Individually, the atomized populace of empire attempts to mitigate alienation by a vicarious revelry in violence; collectively, in the manner of any mob, from the road rage and carnage enacted on soul-devoid US interstate to the phosphorous-poisoned flesh of the people of Fallujah, the mob finds its collective comfort zone in catastrophe. Beck, Palin, and their followers are the empire's human delivery system of The Second Law of Thermodynamics. Used as tools, by corporatists, to preserve the status quo, their hidden half might well serve as its wrecking crew.

The paranoid, domestic douchescape works in the service of the US created deathscapes overseas and vice versa in a self-resonating feedback loop. Therefore, whenever the neoliberal economic policies of corporate oligarchy and the empire's ever expanding military industrial/national security/surveillance/prison complex are questioned, many conservatives personalize the critique. In their gut, they feel as if their identity is under attack. Consequently, the limbic system ascends to the throne of consciousness, as palace guards of casuistry defend the status quo. This could be termed Authoritarian Simpatico Syndrome (ASS) -- a pathology manifested in personalities who have been traumatized by authority, but who seek to assuage the hurt and humiliation by identification with their victimizer.

This phenomenon is what is at the root of the rage rising from the faux populist right: the ground level realities of life in the corporate state are vastly incommensurate with the capitalist hagiography they hold in their heads. Moreover, when one's mental imprinting and social conditioning is challenged, one can find oneself in a bewildering place. Though the state is emotional in nature, it feels akin to being physically lost ... same disorientation, same sense of panic. Many people were never given and/or didn't develop a compass of logic by which to navigate the novel landscape that one is cast into when one's sacred beliefs are challenged. This is why change is a long time coming, and when it arrives it will not be greeted fondly.

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