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montrose
10-03-2010, 07:19 PM
Like a Presidential approval rating poll. The team is 2-2 at the end of the 1st quarter of 2010, McDaniels is .500 as HC of the Broncos.

http://nflsoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/josh-mcdaniels-2010.jpg

tsiguy96
10-03-2010, 07:22 PM
approve, except for his running game choices. maroney has not showed he deserves as many screens/runs as hes getting, in fact hes showed the opposite. hes stubborn about the running game for some reason, like hes going to keep doing it because its supposed to work.

passing game is absolutely phenomenal.

Archer81
10-03-2010, 07:23 PM
I took part in this poll, even though it lacked baja's seal of approval.


:Broncos:

OABB
10-03-2010, 07:24 PM
I mother****ing approve.

Br0nc0Buster
10-03-2010, 07:25 PM
I approve of the overall direction this team is going, the defense is looking good and playing physical

the passing game is coming along and he really knows his stuff in that area

but some of the whacky things he does is not setting this team up for immediate results in certain areas

TheProfessor
10-03-2010, 07:26 PM
for now he gets an In-com-plete,

Love the passing game, hate the running game, like the defense, hate the special teams.

Still a work in progress.

As Parcells use to say, "You are what your record says you are"

Unfortunately we've been around .500 for WAY too long.

montrose
10-03-2010, 07:28 PM
approve, except for his running game choices. maroney has not showed he deserves as many screens/runs as hes getting, in fact hes showed the opposite. hes stubborn about the running game for some reason, like hes going to keep doing it because its supposed to work.

passing game is absolutely phenomenal.

I'm thinking he's running the ball to at least keep the defense honest. In general, I think he's got the squad moving in the right direction and believe he'll make talent on the OL his next priority. I think he's built a very good staff (sans Preifer) and has made some outstanding personal decisions in upgrading the QB and WR positions while shedding potential payroll simultaneously. He inherited the worst 4-3 defense in the business and in two years has turned it into a damn fine 3-4 unit without it's best pass rusher. Overall, I most love the culture change with this team - a squad that plays smart, tough and physical football. He's made his share of personel mistakes (drafting R.Quinn, trading A.Smith - hehe) just as every coach/GM has - but in general I think he's built a much deeper and complete roster than he inherited and I approve of the job he's doing.

But that's just me and I wouldn't be suprised at all to see this poll show a heavy dissaproval of McDaniels - I'm just of a differen't opinion than the majority of the Mane.

go_broncos
10-03-2010, 07:32 PM
I don't like his coaching style..We will be average team until he values running game.

rbackfactory80
10-03-2010, 07:32 PM
I am 75-25. I have some reservations but I do think we have become more physical on the defensive side of the ball. The special teams needs serious improvement. I thought there was a good chance we could lose today's game when we kicked off with around a minute left by someone returning the kick. The run blocking needs to improve.

I will say I haven't seen the NFL as wide open as it is now in a long time. There is not one team that truly looks like a world beater right now. If we keep improving we have a chance to make noise this year. So I guess I approve as of right now.

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 07:36 PM
I just cannot approve of the worst rushing offense in Broncos history. Its a matter of principle.

theAPAOps5
10-03-2010, 07:37 PM
With a retooled oline, you are so right Drama. I mean geez how horrid.

gyldenlove
10-03-2010, 07:38 PM
I will defer judgement until the season is over. I will say I am satisfied so far, but I see a lot of room for improvement and ultimately the win-loss record of the season will be determine approval.

Br0nc0Buster
10-03-2010, 07:38 PM
BTW Wink deserves props

last two games his defense has stood its ground and he had some nice blitzs to get up in Vinces face to force incompletions on third down today

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 07:40 PM
With a retooled oline, you are so right Drama. I mean geez how horrid.

Lets not forget who retooled the line.

theAPAOps5
10-03-2010, 07:42 PM
Lets not forget who retooled the line.

Yeah because it was time. lets not forget that.

baja
10-03-2010, 07:45 PM
Where's the "I fuggin love the guy" option?

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 07:48 PM
Yeah because it was time. lets not forget that.

It doesnt matter what time you think it was.

Dude screwed up the line for at least the first four games of this season, and for who knows how long.

One of the major criticisms of Shanny was that his offenses werent able to pound the ball in short yardage. McD took that problem and made it worse, which I didnt think was possible. It is now pathetic on the "all-time worst" level. That is attributable to McD and should be reason enough for anyone to hold back unyeilding praise and adulation.

Dudeskey
10-03-2010, 07:51 PM
I mother****ing approve, howerver I don't care for his mother****ing calls on 4th down in the red zone. I'd rather see him taking the 3 mother****ing points more and trusting that mother****ing defense.

rbackfactory80
10-03-2010, 08:00 PM
I mother****ing approve, howerver I don't care for his mother****ing calls on 4th down in the red zone. I'd rather see him taking the 3 mother****ing points more and trusting that mother****ing defense.

This I agree with. There were two ways to win that game today, kicking the field goal and kicking off would have also worked.

BroncoMan4ever
10-03-2010, 08:03 PM
i am a believer of McD and I approve of what he is doing. This team isn't a super bowl contender....yet, but this team is tougher and just a few players away from being a real force to be reckoned with.

this team may not end with a great record, but these Broncos are much better than the Broncos of the last 3 years of Shanahan.

BroncoMan4ever
10-03-2010, 08:04 PM
I mother****ing approve, howerver I don't care for his mother****ing calls on 4th down in the red zone. I'd rather see him taking the 3 mother****ing points more and trusting that mother****ing defense.

the defense's play today had to have earned that type of respect from him. i think we may see him take the 3 and believe the defense can get them the ball back.

Rabb
10-03-2010, 08:07 PM
I will defer judgement until the season is over. I will say I am satisfied so far, but I see a lot of room for improvement and ultimately the win-loss record of the season will be determine approval.

pretty much my take also

I like a lot of the stuff we are doing but I am flat out embarrassed at our run blocking and special teams (on defense) right now.

I don't even know how we fix something like those 2 things on the fly, but I have to say the thing that impresses me most with McD is what he has done with Orton.

That alone is simply incredible and that is not a shot at Orton either.

If we can get our line and backs on the same page, this will be really fun to watch especially with the defense playing lights out right now.

Who the hell thought we would hold CJ to 53 yards and no scores today???

SoCalBronco
10-03-2010, 08:10 PM
On the whole, I approve. I'm aghast at the state of our running game and our OL and our general theory of drafting, but he continues to improve our defense and its doing quite well, even without Doom, which is an achievement he should be proud of. I like how he is working in youngsters (Cox, Bay Bay) and his passing system is very successful so far. Seeing as how he turned a weak player into a very solid QB, I am most excited about what he'll turn Tebow into. Given the entirety of the circumstances, I find 2-2 to be quite acceptable so far.

Goobzilla
10-03-2010, 08:11 PM
Where's the meh button?

bpc
10-03-2010, 08:11 PM
Orton has his yards. McD bragged he would bring the scoring. That has been an epic failure thus far.

No where in the NFL will you win consistently or anything permanent rushing for 16 yds.

Rabb
10-03-2010, 08:15 PM
My absolute favorite was how we still tried to sell the play action today, after we had 10 yards rushing up to the 3rd quarter.

Come on guys, this time they will bite!!!!

HEAV
10-03-2010, 08:15 PM
I've approved McDaniels since he clean the garbage out of or team. He's still got a long road ahead of him, but I can see what his vision is and this franchise will be something to deal with for years to come.

Maybe not in 2010, hopefully in 2011 (if we have a season) but coach is buidling.

enjolras
10-03-2010, 08:21 PM
Approval should not be predicated on "this team wins a superbowl right this instant." It should be based on "is this team headed in the right direction and can you see a plan in place that ends with a championship"?

I think we are most definitely headed in the right direction. We're getting bigger, stronger, and most importantly have a roster full of guys all playing together as a team. That's a huge change from the last decade of futility.

It's not going to be pretty. We have obvious holes, but I think we've drafted fairly well (particularly this season) and have made some really good personnel choices.

I think the next few seasons are going to be really good for this franchise. It's going to be like the good old days with us battling the Chefs for division supremacy.

BroncoMan4ever
10-03-2010, 08:25 PM
I've approved McDaniels since he clean the garbage out of or team. He's still got a long road ahead of him, but I can see what his vision is and this franchise will be something to deal with for years to come.

Maybe not in 2010, hopefully in 2011 (if we have a season) but coach is buidling.

damn right. there was a ****load of garbage to clean too, especially when you consider the fact that 32 of the guys he inherited from the Shanahan regime once he got rid of them never played again.

none of the McD bashers realize just how much trash he had to take out, and need to realize that like QBs most teams take a couple seasons at least to rebuild.

but he has this team playing solid and appearing to be only a few players away from being a real contender.

also the running game is going to come around, remember that line just now got to full strength and Harris, Kuper and Clady are all still working back from injury. give a few games to build chemistry and let injuries heal more and we will see a return of the running game.

Pseudofool
10-03-2010, 08:27 PM
That is attributable to McD and should be reason enough for anyone to hold back unyeilding praise and adulation.No it's not reason enough, because you're unwilling to put it in context with everything else the Broncos are doing right.

Clearly, the running game sucks. But it's difficult to pin that on the headcoach (much less make that the lynchpin of evaluation). OL has rookies, first time starters, and a recently injured coalition. Our best back, by a wider margin than people want to acknowledge, is injured as well.

Context, it helps make people not morons. Look into it.

Jesterhole
10-03-2010, 08:51 PM
Likes: Great passing game. Some smart player pickups (Dawkins, Lloyd). Able to coach a QB beyond his abilities. Seems football smart, as opposed to someone like Herm Edwards, who just seems nice.

Dislikes: Running game is terrible. Wasted draft picks (Smith, Quinn). Going for it on 4th down. Red zone debacles. Too young and inexperienced. Hires his brother. Offensive line is worst in years. Traded away four of my favorite players.

MrPeepers
10-03-2010, 08:53 PM
im hoping for growth before the injuries show up. I like our direction, but it sure feels like 1.5 steps forward 1 step back. very slow growth.

spdirty
10-03-2010, 09:09 PM
I will disapprove until he has a winning season. I like the passing game and (so far) the defense.

If the defense plays at this level or at least close to it, without a major collapse like they had last year, good. But I've seen this show with the defense way too many times to be convinced.

As far as the running game and special teams, it speaks for itself with the exception of DT. It is what it is, which is utterly disgusting. I'm hopeful yet pessimistic that those 2 phases of our team will be fixed, or even be much better as the season progresses, but if it doesn't get better it will cost us several games this year.

As far as the running game goes, I think for now we need to use screens and short passes as our running game. Just dump it and trash it and let the passing game carry the offense until Knowshow decides to get his ass back on the field. I highly doubt we will even gain 50 yards on the ground against BMore and New York, so we need to just quit wasting downs on Lawrence Maroney's useless ass. I wouldnt be at all upset if we didnt run the ball 1 time against these next 2 teams.


But we do officially have our identity now, and his name is Kyle Orton and his merry band of wide receivers.

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 09:13 PM
No it's not reason enough, because you're unwilling to put it in context with everything else the Broncos are doing right.

Clearly, the running game sucks. But it's difficult to pin that on the headcoach (much less make that the lynchpin of evaluation). OL has rookies, first time starters, and a recently injured coalition. Our best back, by a wider margin than people want to acknowledge, is injured as well.

Context, it helps make people not morons. Look into it.

The head coach made the decisions to put those people in positions to execute the game plan.

The head coach drafted Walton and let Wiegmann go. The head coach avoided bringing in other available talent at tackle because he wanted to go with Beadles as a backup. The head coach has chosen to start Daniels. The head coach traded a 4th and a 6th for Maroney. The head coach started and gave boucoups carries to him for two weeks in a row.

Context points AT McD, not away from him. Ha!

Man-Goblin
10-03-2010, 09:15 PM
Holy crap I did not expect it to be that high.

NFLBRONCO
10-03-2010, 09:16 PM
I don't like his coaching style..We will be average team until he values running game.

I usually agree with your views but, I never considered a NE type team that great at running the ball.

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 09:16 PM
Holy crap I did not expect it to be that high.

Its a manic moment for the bipolars.

spdirty
10-03-2010, 09:18 PM
I know one thing. Orton keeps this up, and this season is his coming out party, similar to Drew Brees right after the Chuggers drafted Phyllis. :)

Archer81
10-03-2010, 09:18 PM
Poll results as of 10:18 pm MST: 64 approve...9 dont.

Apparently this board has a great, silent majority.

:Broncos:

Popps
10-03-2010, 09:18 PM
McDaniels has done a great job thus far.

But, clearly... his work is far from over.

I'd say we're about 60% where we need to be, at this point. That's not bad after just barely into season number 2.

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 09:19 PM
I know one thing. Orton keeps this up, and this season is his coming out party, similar to Drew Brees right after the Chuggers drafted Phyllis. :)

...or Drew Bledsoe right before he went down and Brady took over. :thumbs:

Popps
10-03-2010, 09:19 PM
Poll results as of 10:18 pm MST: 64 approve...9 dont.

Apparently this board has a great, silent majority.

:Broncos:

It's always like that. The s#it-trolls make the most noise, but sanity prevails if you really put it to the test.

Mr.Meanie
10-03-2010, 09:20 PM
The head coach traded a 4th and a 6th for Maroney.

No.

In other news, you are a complete failure.

WABronco
10-03-2010, 09:21 PM
Well you can slightly approve. I'd rather have McD and his system's potential than someone like Mike Singletary, too.

He really needs his young OL's to develop.

spdirty
10-03-2010, 09:25 PM
...or Drew Bledsoe right before he went down and Brady took over. :thumbs:

Or Bledsoe in his 6th year.:approve:

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 09:27 PM
It's always like that. The s#it-trolls make the most noise, but sanity prevails if you really put it to the test.

I dont know if you'd call it sanity or just people being generally content that there is some hope in this season as of right now.

But just like the housing bubble rocked our economy to the core and caused it to finish the season 0-12, things are lurking under the surface now that could easily cause the same type of collapse that wrecked a 6-0 team last year.

Not having a running game will collapse our playoff chances for sure. That either gets fixed or it catches up to the team eventually.

Just like always, people will read posts like this and ignore them, or like you, will ridicule them to fuel noncognitivist yaaay-isms that run the lemmings into eventual disappointment. IMO, its better to get the disappointment out of the way now and watch the season develop from there. The people that politik these types of things end up causing a pronounced divide, not a unified front like you want.

Pseudofool
10-03-2010, 09:28 PM
The head coach made the decisions to put those people in positions to execute the game plan.

The head coach drafted Walton and let Wiegmann go. The head coach avoided bringing in other available talent at tackle because he wanted to go with Beadles as a backup. The head coach has chosen to start Daniels. The head coach traded a 4th and a 6th for Maroney. The head coach started and gave boucoups carries to him for two weeks in a row.

Context points AT McD, not away from him. Ha!The headcoach took Clady out with a tire iron. The headcoach pushed Moreno down a flight of stairs. The headcoach keeps Ryan Harris in his basement and injures him in undisclosed places weekly. The headcoach is holding the rookies back to teach them lessons. The headcoach's lack of clairvoyance is criminal.

The notion that you disapprove because the coach traded for an unproductive player whose been with the team only three weeks, starts one first year player over another, and let an aging center go is laughable. You're such a clown, and you don't even juggle well.

Look, only a charlatan like you would pin your evaluation on one aspect of a team. Context is more than the running game.

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 09:33 PM
The headcoach took Clady out with a tire iron. The headcoach pushed Moreno down a flight of stairs. The headcoach keeps Ryan Harris in his basement and injures him in undisclosed places weekly. The headcoach is holding the rookies back to teach them lessons. The headcoach's lack of clairvoyance is criminal.

The notion that you disapprove because the coach traded for an unproductive player whose been with the team only three weeks, starts one first year player over another, and let an aging center go is laughable. You're such a clown, and you don't even juggle well.

Look, only a charlatan like you would pin your evaluation on one aspect of a team. Context is more than the running you game.

Those arent the only mistakes of this head coach, and if you are really asking for that discussion, you are more stupid than I thought.

You'll be fully responsible for the blame deserved when this thread derails into that discussion and ultimately turns into the flamefest that you are asking for.

Pseudofool
10-03-2010, 09:40 PM
if you are really asking for that discussion, you are more stupid than I thought.So what is it that you're doing by posting in this thread? Educating the ignorant?

You'll be fully responsible for the blame deserved when this thread derails into that discussion and ultimately turns into the flamefest that you are asking for.THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, I forgots.

Rausch 2.0
10-03-2010, 09:45 PM
No.

In other news, you are a complete failure.

Hilarious!

You do not play well with each other...

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 09:48 PM
So what is it that you're doing by posting in this thread? Educating the ignorant?

THE INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, I forgots.

Ah, you start attacking someone with insults on the internet, and when they tie you in knots, all of the sudden you were just playing and theyre just too serious? Ha!

Why dont you take your ball and go home while youre at it? ROFL!

Taco John
10-03-2010, 09:50 PM
I'm squarely on the fence. I like some of the things he's done. I loathe others. For instance, I hate the joke that our running game has become. I hate seeing the shotgun formation on 3rd and 1. I hate the Madden style playcalling in the red zone.

On the other hand, I love Brandon Lloyd. I think Kyle Orton is one of the most gutsy quarterbacks a fan could hope for. And I like Josh's killer instinct.

I can't tell if we're going in the right direction or not, or whether we're tracking a flat line. But if the question is "do you want him fired, or to stick around," I'd say that I'd rather him stick around and see where his program goes, at least for another year, possibly two.

ScottXray
10-03-2010, 09:51 PM
Approve, but like others the Special ED teams and the Run game have to get a lot better.
Overall he is doing allright...needs to stop being stubborn to the point of stupidity. Has made the team tougher, improved the QB and receivers, not sure if he has made them smarter players overall. But we aren't totally embarassing ourselves( except run blocking), and that is a good thing.

The MVPlaya
10-03-2010, 09:54 PM
Orton has his yards. McD bragged he would bring the scoring. That has been an epic failure thus far.

No where in the NFL will you win consistently or anything permanent rushing for 16 yds.

Yeah, scoring 26 points is an epic failure. Mind you, it was against the 5th best scoring defense, and 7th best overall: and on top of all that, the best redzone D in the league.

What a damn failure.

LOL

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 09:58 PM
Approve, but like others the Special ED teams and the Run game have to get a lot better.
Overall he is doing allright...needs to stop being stubborn to the point of stupidity. Has made the team tougher, improved the QB and receivers, not sure if he has made them smarter players overall. But we aren't totally embarassing ourselves( except run blocking), and that is a good thing.

What I like is the mentality that he has brought. The team fights hard, though they may fail.

They just need to iron out the wrinkles and they can become a playoff team. I dont think that the pieces are there yet for this team to legitimately contend, but if certain players develop into above-average contributors, it is a possibility. I think that Walton, Beadles, DT, Moreno, Cox, and McBath is a pool of guys from which a few need to step up into the realm of playmakers.

This team does need a pass-catching TE as well.

Orton and the run defense cant do it alone. Either the defense has to evolve into a 2000 Ravens-level defense (maybe possible with Dumervil, more DE depth, and a 3rd-year Ayers), or the offense has to evolve into a Peyton Manning type of machine. The latter involves our line to improve dramatically.

Crushaholic
10-03-2010, 10:02 PM
Some of the play calling is suspect, like in the red zone. However, I like that he is putting his stamp on the franchise. I also like that the players don't quit. I saw some "quit" in the last few years of Shanahan...

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 10:41 PM
The approval is significantly higher here on this site than it is on ESPN where McD is tied with 4 other coaches for 12th in the league with an approval at 70%:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/ratings

Archer81
10-03-2010, 10:43 PM
The approval is significantly higher here on this site than it is on ESPN where McD is tied with 4 other coaches for 12th in the league with an approval at 70%:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/ratings


Huh.

A non-orangemane site having an approval rating of the Broncos HC higer than 50%.

So much for his "only this site loves McDaniels" theory.


:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 10:45 PM
Huh.

A non-orangemane site having an approval rating of the Broncos HC higer than 50%.

So much for his "only this site loves McDaniels" theory.


:Broncos:

It does somewhat provide evidence saying that this site loves McD more than others.

Archer81
10-03-2010, 10:57 PM
It does somewhat provide evidence saying that this site loves McD more than others.


Not really. The numbers present now will change over the next day or so. And you must admit 70% is fairly high for ESPN. If only the president had that kind of poll number...


:Broncos:

mr007
10-03-2010, 11:04 PM
I approve so far of what he's doing. I like the fact our run D isn't a ****ing joke anymore. I love the way our WRs and QB are playing - throwing the ball so often really does scare the **** out of me.

I just hope whatever is going on with our run game gets fixed asap.

Taco John
10-03-2010, 11:06 PM
Not really. The numbers present now will change over the next day or so. And you must admit 70% is fairly high for ESPN. If only the president had that kind of poll number...


:Broncos:



That's just for this week. Take a look at the trend numbers:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/coach?coachId=73

Archer81
10-03-2010, 11:08 PM
That's just for this week. Take a look at the trend numbers:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/coach?coachId=73


So ESPN mirrors the Mane, depending on how the game went. Nice find.


:Broncos:

epicSocialism4tw
10-03-2010, 11:15 PM
So ESPN mirrors the Mane, depending on how the game went. Nice find.


:Broncos:

Except that other places arent as polarized as this one and more fans have tended to vote in that fashion.

70% places him at 12th this week, and thats with two other coaches left to play.

That's at the top of the middle of the pack. The value he gets here would place him tied for 6th one place behind Shanahan who has 90% approval in DC.

Taco John
10-03-2010, 11:20 PM
So ESPN mirrors the Mane, depending on how the game went. Nice find.


:Broncos:

Pretty much. I went on a fact finding mission not to long ago to see if we were harder on Josh here than anywhere else. From my observations, we're pretty much standard (maybe a little harder than the other dedicated Broncos forums), only I'd say that the criticisms here are a little more informed and less full of bile (if you can believe that) than what you'll see in general, especially on the sites where there is more of a national audience (ie ESPN discussion forums). I'd say that the Denver Post comments are probably where you'll find the most hateful stuff about Josh. There are some posters that comment to those articles that plain hate the guy and don't even care to discuss it - they want him gone yesterday. But these are just my observations and may be tainted with my own bias.

strafen
10-03-2010, 11:27 PM
Pretty much. I went on a fact finding mission not to long ago to see if we were harder on Josh here than anywhere else. From my observations, we're pretty much standard (maybe a little harder than the other dedicated Broncos forums), only I'd say that the criticisms here are a little more informed and less full of bile (if you can believe that) than what you'll see in general, especially on the sites where there is more of a national audience (ie ESPN discussion forums). I'd say that the Denver Post comments are probably where you'll find the most hateful stuff about Josh. There are some posters that comment to those articles that plain hate the guy and don't even care to discuss it - they want him gone yesterday. But these are just my observations and may be tainted with my own bias.

I've never seen a headcoach in any major sports to have the fan base so divided, it's not even funny.
And you're right, it's not just happening in the mane, it's everywhere, at the pool hall, at the bowling alley, at work, etc...
You find people going in different directions when the Mcdaniels subject comes up.
I for one, can't wait to see him gone.

Popps
10-03-2010, 11:30 PM
Fans are mindless sheep, for the most part. Their approval ratings pretty much change from week to week, depending on whether or not we won.

Very few fans are really going to sit back and judge McDaniels on a 3-4 year curve, as one should judge a staff.

It's just noise. I mean, I'm glad that most people here are sensible enough to see he's off to a good start, but it doens't matter. Bowlen is going to be patient with him and McDaniels is clearly a brilliant young coaching mind.

strafen
10-03-2010, 11:35 PM
Fans are mindless sheep, for the most part. Their approval ratings pretty much change from week to week, depending on whether or not we won.

Very few fans are really going to sit back and judge McDaniels on a 3-4 year curve, as one should judge a staff.

It's just noise. I mean, I'm glad that most people here are sensible enough to see he's off to a good start, but it doens't matter. Bowlen is going to be patient with him and McDaniels is clearly a brilliant young coaching mind.

It's all about what you've done for me lately. I agree with you there...

Cito Pelon
10-03-2010, 11:36 PM
I liked that victory at Nashville, that impressed me with the coaching staff. They responded to adversity, and the rookies responded to adversity. The rookies know they can play now.

Cito Pelon
10-03-2010, 11:43 PM
Fans are mindless sheep, for the most part. Their approval ratings pretty much change from week to week, depending on whether or not we won.

Very few fans are really going to sit back and judge McDaniels on a 3-4 year curve, as one should judge a staff.

It's just noise. I mean, I'm glad that most people here are sensible enough to see he's off to a good start, but it doens't matter. Bowlen is going to be patient with him and McDaniels is clearly a brilliant young coaching mind.

Sheesh, Jeff Fisher was totally dumbfounded how Denver beat his teams' ass at home after the game. He was trying to put his finger on one thing, but couldn't do it. Denver beat their ass on O and on D, the only thing that kept them in the game was the 98 yd kickoff TD return.

Crushaholic
10-04-2010, 12:06 AM
Sheesh, Jeff Fisher was totally dumbfounded how Denver beat his teams' ass at home after the game. He was trying to put his finger on one thing, but couldn't do it. Denver beat their ass on O and on D, the only thing that kept them in the game was the 98 yd kickoff TD return.

...and a (Javon) Ringer...

colonelbeef
10-04-2010, 12:20 AM
This team simply cannot compete for anything meaningful with the current schemes.

That is an out and out failure, and there is no arguing otherwise.

16 rushing yards is unacceptable, period.

colonelbeef
10-04-2010, 12:23 AM
McDaniels has done a great job thus far.

But, clearly... his work is far from over.

I'd say we're about 60% where we need to be, at this point. That's not bad after just barely into season number 2.

How is going 2-8 down the stretch last year, then squeaking to 2-2 a "great job" ?

Your standards are pathetically low.

colonelbeef
10-04-2010, 12:26 AM
Fans are mindless sheep, for the most part. Their approval ratings pretty much change from week to week, depending on whether or not we won.

Very few fans are really going to sit back and judge McDaniels on a 3-4 year curve, as one should judge a staff.

It's just noise. I mean, I'm glad that most people here are sensible enough to see he's off to a good start, but it doens't matter. Bowlen is going to be patient with him and McDaniels is clearly a brilliant young coaching mind.


Lol, yeah the timeout with 26 seconds left in the first half was truly a mensa moment for young Mr. McDaniels.

Calm yourself with the hyperbole. He is a decent OC so far, lets reserve brilliance for the people who have actually proven that they deserve it.

Chuck Noll was a brilliant coach. Bill Parcells was a brilliant coach.

Josh McDaniels just went 2-8 to close out the 2009 season. Take it easy.

HAT
10-04-2010, 12:30 AM
16 rushing yards is unacceptable, period.

You'd rather they rushed for 280 and lose?

colonelbeef
10-04-2010, 12:35 AM
You'd rather they rushed for 280 and lose?

I'd rather that they implemented a gameplan and schemes going forward that were proven winning solutions, rather than the perma shotgun w/ no running game to 7-9 we have going now.

footstepsfrom#27
10-04-2010, 01:21 AM
Keeping in mind that the current problems are the result of injuries and youth as opposed to his performance, I think I'm cautiously now in the camp that says we're moving in the right direction, but he's got a lot of things to work on even so. The passing game looks great, now if we can just put the ground game in position to at least keep defenses honest...

kappys
10-04-2010, 01:51 AM
I think overall the team seems to be improving. I don't think a Shanny lead team with this many injuries would have been able to compete like we did. The overall talent level(i.e. backups) seems better but we do lack stars at key areas right now(pass rush, run blocking). I'm hoping the latter will be improved if the O-line could actually stay healthy but that remains to be seen. The former probably won't get much better this year but a few additions(a good SILB that can blitz or cover to allow DJ to blitz, Doom, and some upgrades on the D-line) could turn it around.

Mogulseeker
10-04-2010, 02:11 AM
I mother****ing approve.

I approve.

I like having a coach who is just trying to win a mother****ing game.

Mogulseeker
10-04-2010, 02:20 AM
I think overall the team seems to be improving. I don't think a Shanny lead team with this many injuries would have been able to compete like we did. The overall talent level(i.e. backups) seems better but we do lack stars at key areas right now(pass rush, run blocking). I'm hoping the latter will be improved if the O-line could actually stay healthy but that remains to be seen. The former probably won't get much better this year but a few additions(a good SILB that can blitz or cover to allow DJ to blitz, Doom, and some upgrades on the D-line) could turn it around.

This... I think 9-9 iks pretty good considering the implementation of a new system AND the injuries the Broncos have had.

I liked the McD pick from the get go.

As for the running game, something has got to give, and when it does, this offense is going to be legendary. It HAS to be the scheming.... there is no way an offensive line can be this good at pass blocking (minus the last game) and this poor at run blocking.

driver
10-04-2010, 05:18 AM
Yeah because it was time. lets not forget that.

True it was half past overdue, but there was some old folk wisdom about not "throwing out the baby with the bath water."
Our line is now lot's younger, a little bigger, but lack experience and are using a scheme,the power scheme instead of zb, that I don't care for. He got rid of Dennison and Turner both good coaches. The most improvement has been on the D. better players and coaching. I couldn't vote yea or nay I'm sort of stuck in the middle for right now, some of his draft picks, might not be his fault, Quinn, Smith, Moreno so early,. Cutler and Marshal you bet heartily approve of getting rid of both. Stupid move trying to put Barrett on IR before season started cost us a good young player..TOO EARLY to vote on this, give him til end of this season, not that our votes matter for __it.:wave:

Rock Chalk
10-04-2010, 05:49 AM
True it was half past overdue, but there was some old folk wisdom about not "throwing out the baby with the bath water."
Our line is now lot's younger, a little bigger, but lack experience and are using a scheme,the power scheme instead of zb, that I don't care for. He got rid of Dennison and Turner both good coaches. The most improvement has been on the D. better players and coaching. I couldn't vote yea or nay I'm sort of stuck in the middle for right now, some of his draft picks, might not be his fault, Quinn, Smith, Moreno so early,. Cutler and Marshal you bet heartily approve of getting rid of both. Stupid move trying to put Barrett on IR before season started cost us a good young player..TOO EARLY to vote on this, give him til end of this season, not that our votes matter for __it.:wave:

He did not get rid of Dennison and turner. Turner went to Shanahan and everyone knew he would when Shanahan decided to come back. Dennison went to Houston because he is primarily a Zone Blocking o-line coach and they are using the ZB scheme almost exclusively down there where as here we weren't. Plus, the job was open and Dennison wanted to go work with Kubiak. However, both COULD have stayed had they wanted to, McDaniels did not drive them off. Dennison and Turner were basically the ONLY two coaches he retained after cleaning house on the garbage on the other side of the ball that Shanahan had here.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-04-2010, 05:57 AM
He did not get rid of Dennison and turner. Turner went to Shanahan and everyone knew he would when Shanahan decided to come back. Dennison went to Houston because he is primarily a Zone Blocking o-line coach and they are using the ZB scheme almost exclusively down there where as here we weren't. Plus, the job was open and Dennison wanted to go work with Kubiak. However, both COULD have stayed had they wanted to, McDaniels did not drive them off. Dennison and Turner were basically the ONLY two coaches he retained after cleaning house on the garbage on the other side of the ball that Shanahan had here.

Was just going to write something similar. Nice job.

I'm not sure how people can continue to not be on the bandwagon, absolutely refusing to see the new attitude that's been brought to this team. It just baffles me how people can imply that we're not tougher, deeper, and better in more places than we used to be.

Granted, the running game is terrible. We all know. I think with a healthy line and a healthy Moreno, we'll do better. ****, 50-70 yards a game would make me happy at this point, and I think we can get there. Without Moreno, we're also missing what I think is his strongest suit: the screen pass. We hardly ran any RB screens yesterday because Maroney can't catch and doesn't make good moves in space like Moreno does.

I love how this team fights together. For each other, for the win, and it's every week. I love how they're coached.

Approve.

Wes Mantooth
10-04-2010, 06:00 AM
I like the way we are going. I think it will take until next year to see the full awesomeness of what he can do. If by then we don't run the ball, and fix special teams, we may just be a .500 team as long as McDaniels is here.

jhns
10-04-2010, 06:37 AM
I won't approve until this team improves. So far he seems to have the same major problems as Shanahan. He has wasted early picks and hasn't been able to fix the front 7. Now we have major issues on the o-line and in the run game. I don't really care what the problems are if he actually improves the team though. It would be nice to be over .500 again.

TheReverend
10-04-2010, 06:46 AM
On the whole, I approve. I'm aghast at the state of our running game and our OL and our general theory of drafting, but he continues to improve our defense and its doing quite well, even without Doom, which is an achievement he should be proud of. I like how he is working in youngsters (Cox, Bay Bay) and his passing system is very successful so far. Seeing as how he turned a weak player into a very solid QB, I am most excited about what he'll turn Tebow into. Given the entirety of the circumstances, I find 2-2 to be quite acceptable so far.

Agreed. I thought we'd drop that Tenn game and had us at 2-2 at this point (winning @ Jax though), so we're right on schedule.

Kaylore
10-04-2010, 07:08 AM
I approve, but like everyone else, I have my concerns. I'm not as worried about the running game as others because I know it's about chemistry and working as a unit and the amount of youth coupled with lack of continuity means we are going to have to live with the growing pains. We played one of the best rush defenses in the country in their house. It's not 1997 anymore. The need to run the ball is becoming less important. I know we'll get it where it needs to be.

The main things I like:


The team is always in most of the their games. His situation football thing really helps keep us in games and gives us a chance to win. You look at a team like the 49ers and they don't play situational ball. They play generic ball ie "Stop the run, play phyiscal, run the ball, etc." It's subtle but it does change how and what you do and it's why we're 2-2 and they're winless.
We correct our mistakes week to week. If something's a problem they usually at least make a concerted effort to fix it.
The staff is excellent at identifying what they think they need to do to win and then doing it. Every week they say "we need to stop so and so" and then after the game that player's numbers are pedestrian.
The drafting is better.
The QB and WR coaching is out of this world.
The defensive line coaching is out of this world.
That this team is tough and we went back to the 3-4. That to me is what the Broncos were meant to be going to back to the 70's and 80's.
That Orton's a bad ass now.


Things that piss me off

Poor early draft. As someone said, if you aren't as prepared as you like, why are you trading up and taking risks? That was incredibly stupid. They should have not traded up, or better, traded their picks away for this year when they had more time and would have been more prepared.
The way they are always sniffing around the Patriots garbage bin. Maroney was in all likelihood going to be cut. So was LeKevin Smith. But it's almost a joke the way Belichick can milk us for picks for guys who are about to be released. It's like we're that weird uncle you can sell your broken TV or burned out video card to for $50 that you would otherwise just throw away. McDaniels needs to quit letting Belichick take his draft picks away for crappy players who if given time would be cut.
Mike Priefer. I still don't like this hire. When Priefer took over the ST unit in KC it was beginning to look average. When he left it was complete and utter garbage. I tolerate him because he is an excellent coach in terms of teaching guys how to kick and punt. Both Prater and Colquitt have really become excellent kickers under him. He doesn't have any idea how to coach a coverage unit, though. They are still terrible.(But good job rebounding last game)
That he leaves points on the board. Take the field goals. Have some restraint and stop being so emotional in the redzone.


So It's a mixed bag. Ultimately for me wins will decide. If we're still milling about at 7-9 and 8-8 this year and next then we need to pull the plug.

Steve Sewell
10-04-2010, 08:28 AM
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SHOCKING

broncosteven
10-04-2010, 09:04 AM
Where's the meh button?

That is the only way I would vote

bronco militia
10-04-2010, 09:08 AM
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SHOCKING

damn, I don't get to hang out with the cool kids

bronco militia
10-04-2010, 09:09 AM
Where's the meh button?

no doubt...probably too early to tell, but so far I'm not impressed

Eldorado
10-04-2010, 09:14 AM
I approve, but like everyone else, I have my concerns. I'm not as worried about the running game as others because I know it's about chemistry and working as a unit and the amount of youth coupled with lack of continuity means we are going to have to live with the growing pains. We played one of the best rush defenses in the country in their house. It's not 1997 anymore. The need to run the ball is becoming less important. I know we'll get it where it needs to be.

The main things I like:


The team is always in most of the their games. His situation football thing really helps keep us in games and gives us a chance to win. You look at a team like the 49ers and they don't play situational ball. They play generic ball ie "Stop the run, play phyiscal, run the ball, etc." It's subtle but it does change how and what you do and it's why we're 2-2 and they're winless.
We correct our mistakes week to week. If something's a problem they usually at least make a concerted effort to fix it.
The staff is excellent at identifying what they think they need to do to win and then doing it. Every week they say "we need to stop so and so" and then after the game that player's numbers are pedestrian.
The drafting is better.
The QB and WR coaching is out of this world.
The defensive line coaching is out of this world.
That this team is tough and we went back to the 3-4. That to me is what the Broncos were meant to be going to back to the 70's and 80's.
That Orton's a bad ass now.


Things that piss me off

Poor early draft. As someone said, if you aren't as prepared as you like, why are you trading up and taking risks? That was incredibly stupid. They should have not traded up, or better, traded their picks away for this year when they had more time and would have been more prepared.
The way they are always sniffing around the Patriots garbage bin. Maroney was in all likelihood going to be cut. So was LeKevin Smith. But it's almost a joke the way Belichick can milk us for picks for guys who are about to be released. It's like we're that weird uncle you can sell your broken TV or burned out video card to for $50 that you would otherwise just throw away. McDaniels needs to quit letting Belichick take his draft picks away for crappy players who if given time would be cut.
Mike Priefer. I still don't like this hire. When Priefer took over the ST unit in KC it was beginning to look average. When he left it was complete and utter garbage. I tolerate him because he is an excellent coach in terms of teaching guys how to kick and punt. Both Prater and Colquitt have really become excellent kickers under him. He doesn't have any idea how to coach a coverage unit, though. They are still terrible.(But good job rebounding last game)
That he leaves points on the board. Take the field goals. Have some restraint and stop being so emotional in the redzone.


So It's a mixed bag. Ultimately for me wins will decide. If we're still milling about at 7-9 and 8-8 this year and next then we need to pull the plug.

Great post.

Pseudofool
10-04-2010, 09:15 AM
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SHOCKINGUpdate your ignore lists, people. :approve:

bendog
10-04-2010, 09:15 AM
I'd be more likely to play if the question was "offensive coordinator" rather than head coach. But regardless of whatver happens, McDaniels will be coaching this team at least through 2013. Time will tell.

Old Dude
10-04-2010, 02:42 PM
My little stat of the day.

How important is raw passing yardage to a team's success in this era? Forget about QB efficiency. Forget about the red zone, the running game, the defenses, turnover ratios and and special teams. Just raw passing yardage.

If you take the top four passing yardage leaders each year from 2006 - 2009 (a total of 16 teams) here's what you get in that four year period:

2 super bowl champions (Indy 2006; N.O. 2009)
3 super bowl runners-up (Pats 2007, Zona 2008, Indy 2009)
5 additional division champs
1 wild card team

So, 5 of the 16 went to the super bowl.

11 of the 16 made the playoffs.

Of the 5 who didn't make the playoffs, only one team had a losing record, the 2007 Saints (7-9)

Crushaholic
10-04-2010, 02:47 PM
The list of our esteemed colleagues who disapprove:

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SHOCKING

Rausch is a Chiefs fan, BTW. He disapproves of the way McDaniels is doing his job. I take that as a positive towards McDaniels. I just wanted to point that out...:sunshine:

bronclvr
10-04-2010, 02:51 PM
Is there anyway to merge McD and Shanny? I want our old running game-anyway, as been said here many times, it was time for a change, and while I didn't see it at the time, I'm glad we are at least trying something new.

We still have a long way to go however, but I think we have to give him at least three or four Years to get a complete Team of players who fit his Scheme to see if he really can be successful-as they say, this is a passing league now so at least we have a passing guru-

NYBronco
10-04-2010, 03:15 PM
I approve, hopefully when Moreno returns the running game will show up a little more (70 to 80 ypg). The passing game is a joy to watch. Opposing teams appear to be taking the low road and stopping our running game at the expense of getting torched by our passing game. Would like Orton to get alot more protection but he seems to have responded well for the most part. Martindale and the defense are playing inspired football.

UberBroncoMan
10-04-2010, 03:22 PM
I want an undecided option. I approve of some things and disapprove of others.

rbackfactory80
10-04-2010, 03:25 PM
My little stat of the day.

How important is raw passing yardage to a team's success in this era? Forget about QB efficiency. Forget about the red zone, the running game, the defenses, turnover ratios and and special teams. Just raw passing yardage.

If you take the top four passing yardage leaders each year from 2006 - 2009 (a total of 16 teams) here's what you get in that four year period:

2 super bowl champions (Indy 2006; N.O. 2009)
3 super bowl runners-up (Pats 2007, Zona 2008, Indy 2009)
5 additional division champs
1 wild card team

So, 5 of the 16 went to the super bowl.

11 of the 16 made the playoffs.

Of the 5 who didn't make the playoffs, only one team had a losing record, the 2007 Saints (7-9)

I like it but I don't like the fact that it is getting cold quick. It isn't going to be sixty degrees the rest of the season and we don't play in a dome (or a desert). Either the defense has to play at a super high level or we have to get some production on the ground.

Popps
10-04-2010, 03:31 PM
Wow, look at that disapprove group. Outside of Blart, does that read like a top 20 list of the ****tiest posters on the Mane? Wow.

gtown
10-04-2010, 03:33 PM
The quality of game planning has been off the charts for me. We haven't executed as well as I want the team to, especially on the ground, but the gameplans seem really well put together. I thought we had a great answer to the Colts offense, and figured out how to both box in Vince Young and neutralize Chris Johnson. It's obvious McD watches a lot of tape.

snowspot66
10-04-2010, 06:20 PM
Last year we were right in the middle of the pack for rushing yardage. The scheme hasn't changed so consider me unconcerned about the running game. Yeah it sucks right now. We'll have to live with that though. We've got our three vet starters all dinged up and the other guys are all rookies. None of our running backs played a down in the preseason. It's going to take a while. Without a doubt we have the talent to be an average to above average run team. We proved that last year. The guys just need to get healthy and get some playing time together for it to come together.

This is going to be an extremely solid offense when it does too.

I approve of McDaniels completely. He'll finish out his contract no doubt. I hope and expect we'll see enough improvement to keep him around. I think we have a great coach and it will just take him a little time to grow into it fully.

TailgateNut
10-04-2010, 06:26 PM
Last year we were right in the middle of the pack for rushing yardage. The scheme hasn't changed so consider me unconcerned about the running game. Yeah it sucks right now. We'll have to live with that though. We've got our three vet starters all dinged up and the other guys are all rookies. None of our running backs played a down in the preseason. It's going to take a while. Without a doubt we have the talent to be an average to above average run team. We proved that last year. The guys just need to get healthy and get some playing time together for it to come together.

This is going to be an extremely solid offense when it does too.

I approve of McDaniels completely. He'll finish out his contract no doubt. I hope and expect we'll see enough improvement to keep him around. I think we have a great coach and it will just take him a little time to grow into it fully.

He just needs to stop chewing on his fingers like a HS sophmore on his first date.:yayaya:

TailgateNut
10-04-2010, 06:30 PM
Wow, look at that disapprove group. Outside of Blart, does that read like a top 20 list of the ****tiest posters on the Mane? Wow.


There are definately some "wieners" in that group.

Chris
10-04-2010, 06:32 PM
The only thing I am concerned about is his red zone playcalling.

NYBronco
10-05-2010, 03:24 PM
At this point I am more concerned with the play execution.

Play selection could be very effective once the rookies, injuries, unit consistency and togetherness begin to meld and become more of a unit.

Consistency at RB is another consideration.

Dagmar
10-05-2010, 03:52 PM
Under Josh McDaniels, the Broncos have won the turnover battle more times (11 gms.) than any AFC team other than the Jets (12)
web • 10/5/10 3:35 PM
retweeted by @Denver_Broncos
10/5/10 3:37 PM

I do like that stat.

Popps
10-05-2010, 04:23 PM
Under Josh McDaniels, the Broncos have won the turnover battle more times (11 gms.) than any AFC team other than the Jets (12)
web • 10/5/10 3:35 PM
retweeted by @Denver_Broncos
10/5/10 3:37 PM

I do like that stat.

That's a product of an offensive coaching philosophy that emphasizes taking great care of the ball.

You'll see Orton take a sack before you see him pitch it up for grabs. Personally, I've got no problem with that.

errand
10-05-2010, 04:26 PM
Lets not forget who retooled the line.

You think smaller less powerful OL would have fared better? Keep in mind the Titans aren't a slouch on D. sure we lost the rush battle...but we won the war. You think the titans are at practice today saying. "Yeah, well we ran for more yards than you..."?

jsco70
10-05-2010, 05:31 PM
Wow, look at that disapprove group. Outside of Blart, does that read like a top 20 list of the ****tiest posters on the Mane? Wow.

Basically, at this point, the posters who "disapprove" have no choice but to continue with their negative attitude towards McDaniel. They've dug themselves into a hole and will have to eat crow to get out. I don't believe any of them will do so in the short term. At least not publicly.

It must suck to watch your supposed favorite team improve and have to look at the negative because of your internet persona. Hilarious!

Paladin
10-05-2010, 05:39 PM
It doesnt matter what time you think it was.

Dude screwed up the line for at least the first four games of this season, and for who knows how long.

One of the major criticisms of Shanny was that his offenses werent able to pound the ball in short yardage. McD took that problem and made it worse, which I didnt think was possible. It is now pathetic on the "all-time worst" level. That is attributable to McD and should be reason enough for anyone to hold back unyeilding praise and adulation.

You are fugging nuts. You are a five tool fool......

The usual nitwits (21 ao far) voted no.

Hilarious!

Marshall Dumervil
10-05-2010, 07:06 PM
Wow, look at that disapprove group. Outside of Blart, does that read like a top 20 list of the ****tiest posters on the Mane? Wow.

Alright I guess I'm in that group since I don't post much I'm clearly clueless.

Here's why I disapprove:

McDaniels will suck the cock of anyone associated with the Patriots.

He can cram that power blocking crap straight up his ass.

Hillis.

Mike Nolan.

I never liked the hire, but I want him to succeed. So far this year he's succeeding in pissing me off. Maybe it's still being a newb coach, maybe he will get his **** together. I hope so. Anyway, as far as Q1 of the season, I disapprove.

Dagmar
10-05-2010, 07:19 PM
It's going to fun to watch this post being picked apart for the bull it is.

Alright I guess I'm in that group since I don't post much I'm clearly clueless.

Here's why I disapprove:

McDaniels will suck the cock of anyone associated with the Patriots.

He can cram that power blocking crap straight up his ass.

Hillis.

Mike Nolan.

I never liked the hire, but I want him to succeed. So far this year he's succeeding in pissing me off. Maybe it's still being a newb coach, maybe he will get his **** together. I hope so. Anyway, as far as Q1 of the season, I disapprove.

OABB
10-05-2010, 07:20 PM
Alright I guess I'm in that group since I don't post much I'm clearly clueless.

Here's why I disapprove:

McDaniels will suck the cock of anyone associated with the Patriots.

He can cram that power blocking crap straight up his ass.

Hillis.

Mike Nolan.

I never liked the hire, but I want him to succeed. So far this year he's succeeding in pissing me off. Maybe it's still being a newb coach, maybe he will get his **** together. I hope so. Anyway, as far as Q1 of the season, I disapprove.


I see why you don't post much.

TailgateNut
10-05-2010, 07:25 PM
I see why you don't post much.


They only allow him "out" 1/2 hr. each day.

Marshall Dumervil
10-05-2010, 07:27 PM
It's going to fun to watch this post being picked apart for the bull it is.

You had a problem with Mike Leach?

Dagmar
10-05-2010, 07:55 PM
You had a problem with Mike Leach?

He was a long snapper. The people who get upset over a long snapper are ****ing idiotic.

epicSocialism4tw
10-05-2010, 08:04 PM
You are fugging nuts. You are a five tool fool......

The usual nitwits (21 ao far) voted no.


Yeah, you'd hate for someone to point out the obvious.

Fail.

And you wouldnt expect the same people who previously voiced a skeptical opinion to vote 'no' in something like this? Really? Fail.

Marshall Dumervil
10-05-2010, 08:09 PM
He was a long snapper. The people who get upset over a long snapper are ****ing idiotic.


Didn't really disprove my point did ya?

My post is my opinion of what I think of boy genius. I voted I disapprove, that's what I think. Looks like popular opinion rules here on the mane. I'm a fan of the team, I don't have to be fan of the coach.

epicSocialism4tw
10-05-2010, 08:10 PM
Didn't really disprove my point did ya?

My post is my opinion of what I think of boy genius. I voted I disapprove, that's what I think. Looks like popular opinion rules here on the mane. I'm a fan of the team, I don't have to be fan of the coach.

If you dont fall in line and parrot Popps' ridiculous opinion like the rest of them, they'll be at your doorstep with flaming torches in no time.

listopencil
10-06-2010, 12:19 AM
Run the ball.

listopencil
10-06-2010, 12:30 AM
The list of our esteemed colleagues who disapprove:

Blart (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=4363), bpc (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=1308), bronco militia (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=123), BroncoSojia (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=10889), colonelbeef (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=4362), go_broncos (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=6944), Hamrob (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=9847), Ingame (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=12576), Jesterhole (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=2285), Jetmeck (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=1587), jhns (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=5833), Lolad (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=8639), Marshall Dumervil (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=8993), McSkillet (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=2331), Mecklomaniac (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=718), Rausch 2.0 (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=9131), Riddi (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=1992), spdirty (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=4900), strafen (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/member.php?u=10462)

SHOCKING

Add me to that list. As of right now I'm disappointed. Last year I was watching a game, I believe it was late in the year. During that horrible slide when the Broncos pissed away the season. You remember that, right? I'm watching and they just could not run the ball for ****. One of he announcers finally said, "The Denver Broncos...can not run the ball." or something very similar to that. I remember it because the announcer said it like he was stunned at what had just come out of his own mouth. That phrase, the way he said it, just stays with me. Because it's true. And I do not approve.

The MVPlaya
10-06-2010, 01:18 AM
Add me to that list. As of right now I'm disappointed. Last year I was watching a game, I believe it was late in the year. During that horrible slide when the Broncos pissed away the season. You remember that, right? I'm watching and they just could not run the ball for ****. One of he announcers finally said, "The Denver Broncos...can not run the ball." or something very similar to that. I remember it because the announcer said it like he was stunned at what had just come out of his own mouth. That phrase, the way he said it, just stays with me. Because it's true. And I do not approve.

You really justified your stance there buddy.

driver
10-06-2010, 02:30 AM
[QUOTE=Marshall Dumervil;2960739]
Here's why I disapprove:

McDaniels will suck the cock of anyone associated with the Patriots.

He can cram that power blocking crap straight up his ass.

Hillis.

Mike Nolan.

IMO a lot of truth right there.
Especially the 1st statement.
There was nothing wrong w/ the ZBS!
Hillis trade was stupid. An effective RB/FB w/ good hands for a project QB.

fontaine
10-06-2010, 04:15 AM
Was just going to write something similar. Nice job.

I'm not sure how people can continue to not be on the bandwagon, absolutely refusing to see the new attitude that's been brought to this team. It just baffles me how people can imply that we're not tougher, deeper, and better in more places than we used to be.

We're not a tougher team on offense.

The Titans front 7 man handled our OL completely in the running game and sacked, harassed and knocked around Orton in the passing game.

So far in the year even smaller front 7s have been dominating our OL.

That's NOT tougher.

ST still sucks balls, we cant run the ball, although the defense has improved.

It's a work in progress yes, and we'll have to wait and see if this team can handle December and not slide they do every year.

THAT'S going to be the true test.

fontaine
10-06-2010, 04:24 AM
I'd be more likely to play if the question was "offensive coordinator" rather than head coach. But regardless of whatver happens, McDaniels will be coaching this team at least through 2013. Time will tell.

This is exactly where we are right now.

Questions marks on defense, running game, STs, but we're great passing the ball.

We knew Josh was capable of putting together a solid passing game because that's what he did with Cassell in NE.

It's still far too early to tell about Josh the Head Coach apart from the obvious that he likes taking risks, whether they be in the draft or on 4th downs.

Pat Bowlen, intentionally or not, has pretty much made the same kind of hire as he did with Shanahan. A talented, young and upcoming X's and O's guy when it comes to offense.

I will say this about Josh though, he at least looks seriously at the defense instead of the trash and coordinator musical chairs that Shanahan mostly employed.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 05:25 AM
We're not a tougher team on offense.

The Titans front 7 man handled our OL completely in the running game and sacked, harassed and knocked around Orton in the passing game.

So far in the year even smaller front 7s have been dominating our OL.

That's NOT tougher.

ST still sucks balls, we cant run the ball, although the defense has improved.

It's a work in progress yes, and we'll have to wait and see if this team can handle December and not slide they do every year.

THAT'S going to be the true test.

I would agree in principle, but Orton is obviously tougher, smarter, and playing well when it matters and the chips are down. During the Shanahan era, do we go into Tennessee and beat the Titans? I say no. Not a chance. Baiting us into personal foul penalties all day, not responding when we get punched in the mouth... we're tougher.

I'm not giving up on this line yet. We've got to see how they continue to grow together. Except Stan Daniels. That guy sucks out loud.

jhns
10-06-2010, 06:01 AM
I don't get how people can't see that we are better in every way! McDaniels is a great GM! We haven't improved because he can't coach!

Great argument.

Mogulseeker
10-06-2010, 06:02 AM
First off, pass protection has been good except for Tenn, and the mentality of toughness is more so than in the Shanahan regime.

The white running back (that's why you like him) who is now gone is a non-issue. When the trade happened, people espoused it because we were getting a QB with first-round talent. Things might be totally different if Orton wasn't performing. But he is, and I'm pleased. If I could go back in time, I might change the trade, but still - Moreno is a more complete back, with more of an upside and a similar skill set to H**lis.

The white running back would be struggling in this scheme as well. Let's just stop turning every freaking thread into a H**lis thread.

The defense is vastly better. I remmember reading somewhere that the Broncos have released 32 players since McD took over who are no longer in the league. That's over half of the Shanahan crew - that nobody wants.

The passing game is insane, and I give MAD props to McDaniels in spotting a problem with Cutler and severing the team from the problem completely. As far as the Marshall trade... it's hard to imagine where our passing game would be with him now, but needless to say, we don't need him, and I think his issue was much more the problems he had in the city of Denver and much less any squabbles with the coach. Marshall is actually a player I wish the best for.

I'm confidant the the running game will catch on eventually. Anyone with any understanding of football whatsoever knows that Moreno has some special talent... he has good intangibles, runs hard, falls forward, gets low and has good vision. He can learn to cut quicker.

After looking at Montrose's breakdown, I think a lot of the problems with the run are, simply put, blown assignments by Daniels and Walton. Daniels missing a block, or not getting to the second level set off the rhythm of the rest of the line... Walton has looked both great at times and terrible at times. Kuper missed a few blocks last week, and both the tackles are playing a little stiff - probably and issue of coming back from injury. I liked the way Beadles has performed, and as he and Walton progress and Harris, Kuper, and Clady heal, not only will the running game improve, but we just might have the best young offensive line in the league, couple that with a QB with the kind of resolve Orton has, and possibly the best young receiver corps in the league.... also get another solid young corner and a dominant NT and we have the makings of what won the Pats 3 Super Bowls.

I'm to lazy to check right now, but I'm pretty sure the Pats during their Super Bowl years averaged less than 4ypc, and they didn't have a runner over 1,000.

jhns
10-06-2010, 06:09 AM
Here are the facts. McDaniels is staying at a record that Shanahan only had in his worst years. McDaniels has already had a losing streak longer than anything Shanahan ever had here.

Yay McDaniels! We love being losers now! We are convinced that you are great for us and you don't have to do a thing!

Paladin
10-06-2010, 06:24 AM
This message is hidden because jhns is on your ignore list (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

Because (s)he sucks so much......

jhns
10-06-2010, 06:38 AM
This message is hidden because jhns is on your ignore list (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

Because (s)he sucks so much......

Oh no! Some whiney old guy has me on ignore!

I can't help it that what I say hurts everyones feelings. If you guys would root for the Denver Broncos instead of the Denver McDaniels, we wouldn't have this problem.

Paladin
10-06-2010, 06:40 AM
This message is hidden because jhns is on your ignore list (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

(S)he's hooked again. Queen Sucksalot is open for business.......

jhns
10-06-2010, 06:42 AM
This message is hidden because jhns is on your ignore list (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

(S)he's hooked again. Queen Sucksalot is open for business.......

An old drama queen is a pathetic site. You aren't very good at this ignore thing.

bowtown
10-06-2010, 06:54 AM
An old drama queen is a pathetic site.

Yes you are... but your cries for help aren't going unoticed jhns. People here notice your pain. Please just give in and ask for help.

jhns
10-06-2010, 06:56 AM
Yes you are... but your cries for help aren't going unoticed jhns. People here notice your pain. Please just give in and ask for help.

26 is old? Damn. I thought I still had time to mature some. Maybe I'll look into that help.

Dagmar
10-06-2010, 06:56 AM
An old drama queen is a pathetic site. You aren't very good at this ignore thing.

:egbgb:
A pathetic website?

bowtown
10-06-2010, 06:59 AM
26 is old? Damn. I thought I still had time to mature some. Maybe I'll look into that help.

They were your words, not mine. I was just quoting you. You still have plenty of maturing to do, but that has nothing to do with the void inside you that screams for attention.

jhns
10-06-2010, 07:04 AM
:egbgb:
A pathetic website?

Spelling is for losers.

Site is an actual word though. I was saying he is a pathetic place. Website is completely different.

jhns
10-06-2010, 07:06 AM
They were your words, not mine. I was just quoting you. You still have plenty of maturing to do, but that has nothing to do with the void inside you that screams for attention.

They were my words and you said that I fit that description. You must be a very small child if you think I am old.

bowtown
10-06-2010, 07:20 AM
They were my words and you said that I fit that description. You must be a very small child if you think I am old.

jhns, I know that since you are still basically a child, that you don't understand rhetorical devices or really how to interpret anything other than literally. Your use of the word "old" in reference to yourself was not meant to describe you as long in the tooth (that means old in years, jhns), it was in reference to the term "drama queen" in relation to most of the rational and thoughtful members of the board (who do comprise a majority). Compared to them you have been a drama queen for quite a long time... ever since any of us can remember actually, and that makes your little act very very "old"... something you were quite astute in noticing about yourself when I quoted you.

jhns
10-06-2010, 07:30 AM
jhns, I know that since you are still basically a child, that you don't understand rhetorical devices or really how to interpret anything other than literally. Your use of the word "old" in reference to yourself was not meant to describe you as long in the tooth (that means old in years, jhns), it was in reference to the term "drama queen" in relation to most of the rational and thoughtful members of the board (who do comprise a majority). Compared to them you have been a drama queen for quite a long time... ever since any of us can remember actually, and that makes your little act very very "old"... something you were quite astute in noticing about yourself when I quoted you.

Yes, but I meant it literally for a reason. A young drama queen, like myself, has time to mature. An old drama queen(yes, in age) is pathetic becuase they should have already matured. They are a lost cause that will die being pathetic. Young drama queens aren't as pathetic because they have an excuse, they haven't fully matured.

Your spin just doesn't work.

fontaine
10-06-2010, 07:39 AM
I would agree in principle, but Orton is obviously tougher, smarter, and playing well when it matters and the chips are down. During the Shanahan era, do we go into Tennessee and beat the Titans? I say no. Not a chance. Baiting us into personal foul penalties all day, not responding when we get punched in the mouth... we're tougher.

I'm not giving up on this line yet. We've got to see how they continue to grow together. Except Stan Daniels. That guy sucks out loud.

Yes, Orton has been our MVP so far. It's why I made my last post. We can't have any more games where he gets sacked/knocked around multiple times because he's dropping back 40-50 times a game given his injury history.

At this pace sooner or later Orton is going to take one hit too many and we'll get to see Chris Simms 2.0 - nobody wants that. That's why I'm harsh on the OL.

bowtown
10-06-2010, 07:50 AM
Yes, but I meant it literally for a reason. A young drama queen, like myself, has time to mature. An old drama queen(yes, in age) is pathetic becuase they should have already matured. They are a lost cause that will die being pathetic. Young drama queens aren't as pathetic because they have an excuse, they haven't fully matured.

Your spin just doesn't work.

But that isn't what you meant in reference to yourself when I quoted you. And on a side note, you have shown no signs of growing out of your drama royalty. It is mostly just sad when an older person doesn't change, because they can't. But it's truly pathetic when a young person can, yet refuses to.

Steve Sewell
10-06-2010, 07:54 AM
Here are the facts. McDaniels is staying at a record that Shanahan only had in his worst years. McDaniels has already had a losing streak longer than anything Shanahan ever had here.

Yay McDaniels! We love being losers now! We are convinced that you are great for us and you don't have to do a thing!

Here are the facts:

Short-sighted "fans", who play too much Madden and fantasy football, lack real-world perspective and have no idea about what goes into rebuilding a football team. As a result the standards they hold players/teams/coaches to are unrealistic and not taken seriously by rational people.

Some of the above fans are actual fans of the team and just not very football savvy, others are simply trolls who act the part. You fall into the latter category and should GTFO.

TonyR
10-06-2010, 08:08 AM
When the trade happened, people espoused it because we were getting a QB with first-round talent.

Another good point that hasn't been discussed much if at all. I don't recall all that huge of an outcry when the trade happened. Most people were happy that we upgraded the backup QB position at worst, and found Orton some competetion for the starting job at best. Now that Hillis has had a couple of good games while our running game has struggled it's the WORST TRADE EVER!

Rabb
10-06-2010, 08:14 AM
The 8 step process to success at the Mane

1. Click on the thread
2. Post your opinion
3. Quickly, pick a side on *insert former player/coach here*
4. Post more opinions/facts/links/videos, knowing it won't matter
5. Argue with jhns/watch others argue with jhns...keeping him in business
6. Watch someone's fan status come into question, or question someone's status
7. Call someone names or post a picture, since you have nothing else
8. Go to step 4

jhns
10-06-2010, 09:00 AM
Here are the facts:

Short-sighted "fans", who play too much Madden and fantasy football, lack real-world perspective and have no idea about what goes into rebuilding a football team. As a result the standards they hold players/teams/coaches to are unrealistic and not taken seriously by rational people.

Some of the above fans are actual fans of the team and just not very football savvy, others are simply trolls who act the part. You fall into the latter category and should GTFO.

Why those aren't facts at all. Those are opinions. Proof of such is that I have never once played fantasy football and hardly play Madden. See, this is the problem with this place. I come with facts and others don't seem to know what a fact is.

I agree that it takes time. I didn't claim he was a failure. My post was in response to the posts saying that some can't grasp how others don't see that we are clearly better in every way. The facts don't support this. When they do, people will have no choice but to support McDaniels from that point forward. As of now, he is .500 and there is zero evidence that he has turned this team around.

Again, I'm just going with the facts.

Rock Chalk
10-06-2010, 09:12 AM
The 8 step process to success at the Mane

1. Click on the thread
2. Post your opinion
3. Quickly, pick a side on *insert former player/coach here*
4. Post more opinions/facts/links/videos, knowing it won't matter
5. Argue with jhns/watch others argue with jhns...keeping him in business
6. Watch someone's fan status come into question, or question someone's status
7. Call someone names or post a picture, since you have nothing else
8. Go to step 4

Man I epic fail.

Rock Chalks 6 Step Process to Success At the Mane
1) Click on thread
2) Read opinions of people.
3) Shake head at some of those people.
4) Blatant idiots put on ignore.
5) Throw a grenade.
6) Move to next thread and go back to 1.

Rabb
10-06-2010, 09:16 AM
Man I epic fail.

Rock Chalks 6 Step Process to Success At the Mane
1) Click on thread
2) Read opinions of people.
3) Shake head at some of those people.
4) Blatant idiots put on ignore.
5) Throw a grenade.
6) Move to next thread and go back to 1.

actually I like yours better

broncosteven
10-06-2010, 09:16 AM
Man I epic fail.

Rock Chalks 6 Step Process to Success At the Mane
1) Click on thread
2) Read opinions of people.
3) Shake head at some of those people.
4) Blatant idiots put on ignore.
5) Throw a grenade.
6) Move to next thread and go back to 1.

LOL

You forgot the step where you call everyone Douche Nozzel or FG! That is my favorite one.

bronco militia
10-06-2010, 09:22 AM
Man I epic fail.

Rock Chalks 6 Step Process to Success At the Mane
1) Click on thread
2) Read opinions of people.
3) Shake head at some of those people.
4) Blatant idiots put on ignore.
5) Throw a grenade.
6) Move to next thread and go back to 1.

works for me....except, I never put anyone on ignore

Rock Chalk
10-06-2010, 10:25 AM
bronco militia
This message is hidden because bronco militia is on your ignore list.

bronco militia
10-06-2010, 10:29 AM
bronco militia
This message is hidden because bronco militia is on your ignore list.

LOL...what a pussy

Rock Chalk
10-06-2010, 10:30 AM
LOL...what a p***Y

Clearly you didnt get the joke.

bronco militia
10-06-2010, 10:31 AM
Clearly you didnt get the joke.

relax It was only a test....Ha!

kamakazi_kal
10-06-2010, 10:49 AM
I'll approve as of now but, man he needs to fix the running game. Just eat some crow and bring back some zone blocking. This power game is just not working. The backs and the line suck at it.

Steve Sewell
10-06-2010, 12:35 PM
Why those aren't facts at all. Those are opinions. Proof of such is that I have never once played fantasy football and hardly play Madden. See, this is the problem with this place. I come with facts and others don't seem to know what a fact is.

I agree that it takes time. I didn't claim he was a failure. My post was in response to the posts saying that some can't grasp how others don't see that we are clearly better in every way. The facts don't support this. When they do, people will have no choice but to support McDaniels from that point forward. As of now, he is .500 and there is zero evidence that he has turned this team around.

Again, I'm just going with the facts.

No, it is a fact that short-sighted "fans" hold rebuilding teams to unrealistic standards.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 12:40 PM
Oh boy. Another series of attention-whoring posts from Wonderkid. Great.

Rock Chalk
10-06-2010, 12:43 PM
Just stop ****ing quoting jhns.

Reply all you want but dont ****ing quote him.

Dagmar
10-06-2010, 01:01 PM
Just stop ****ing quoting jhns.

Reply all you want but dont ****ing quote him.

People have been begging for that for about a year, it's not gonna happen.

jhns
10-06-2010, 01:11 PM
What is so hard about just not reading posts that are clearly labeled with jhns at the top of them? You really need the board to do it for you guys? What are we, 8? As has been pointed out a million times on here, you can download FF and get the program that automatically blocks all jhns posts, even when quoted.

jhns
10-06-2010, 01:16 PM
No, it is a fact that short-sighted "fans" hold rebuilding teams to unrealistic standards.

Wanting to see actual improvement (as in wins and losses, which shouldn't need to be said) is unrealistic? No, I would say that claiming the team is better in every way when the record hasn't improved is being unrealistic. What is that claiming? The coach is just that bad at coaching? Is that supposed to be better?

McDaniels will convince me when he improves the team. I'm sorry that I am critical until that time. I am an irrational fan that had some of his favorite players given away. If McDaniels wanted my blind love, he should have consulted me before making moves.

The MVPlaya
10-06-2010, 01:47 PM
What is so hard about just not reading posts that are clearly labeled with jhns at the top of them?

It's not to the top, it's to the left, dip ****.

http://upshizzle.com/pfiles/4022/elementary.jpg

jhns
10-06-2010, 01:52 PM
It's not to the top, it's to the left, dip ****.


Ummm. The top has a left, middle, and right....

Way to show off that education "playa".

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 02:12 PM
SOMEone doesn't understand a joke when he sees it.

jhns
10-06-2010, 02:20 PM
SOMEone doesn't understand a joke when he sees it.

So saying stuff that doesn't make sense is just someone making a joke?

I now understand your posts a lot better. I just needed to work on my sense of humor.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 02:23 PM
I like that you assume everything is about you. It's what an insecure 12 year old girl does. Nice job.

Enjoy 7th grade science. Hope the boys aren't too mean to you.

jhns
10-06-2010, 02:30 PM
I like that you assume everything is about you. It's what an insecure 12 year old girl does. Nice job.

Enjoy 7th grade science. Hope the boys aren't too mean to you.

Well yeah, I assume a post that follows mine without addressing anyone specific is to me. That is how it has worked with a lot of posters here since the revolution of not quoting me began.

Plus, I am more important than everyone else.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 02:32 PM
What your mother tells you in the comfort of your own home is your business.

jhns
10-06-2010, 02:32 PM
I like that you assume everything is about you. It's what an insecure 12 year old girl does. Nice job.

Enjoy 7th grade science. Hope the boys aren't too mean to you.

Oops. I responded and you didn't address me. Sorry for assuming again. You were probably talking to someone else.

jhns
10-06-2010, 02:34 PM
What your mother tells you in the comfort of your own home is your business.

Reported.

Keep my family out of it.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Christ. Now who's the pussy?

You make me giggle, jizz. So does your mom. She makes me giggle, and I make her jiggle. Rawr.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Christ. Now who's the p***Y?

You make me giggle, jizz. So does your mom. She makes me giggle, and I make her jiggle. Rawr.

Reported! Leave Jizz alone!

http://www.lifelounge.com/resources/IMGTHUMB/LeaveBritneyAlone_thumbnail.jpg

jhns
10-06-2010, 02:43 PM
Christ. Now who's the p***Y?

You make me giggle, jizz. So does your mom. She makes me giggle, and I make her jiggle. Rawr.

Well I have never actually reported someone but I might just to see if you get banned for this. It would make me laugh.

Popps
10-06-2010, 02:44 PM
Honestly, you guys really read Jizz at this point?

What possible reason could you have for ever reading his posts?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 02:44 PM
Honestly, you guys really read Jizz at this point?

What possible reason could you have for ever reading his posts?

His ignorance gives me strength. And Lulz. Must never forget the Lulz.

:afro:

Rock Chalk
10-06-2010, 02:45 PM
His ignorance gives me strength. And Lulz. Must never forget the Lulz.

:afro:

Really you just ****ing make it worse by responding to him.

Shut the **** up already.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-06-2010, 02:46 PM
Really you just ****ing make it worse by responding to him.

Shut the **** up already.

Popps? Or jizz?

jhns
10-06-2010, 02:50 PM
Really you just ****ing make it worse by responding to him.

Shut the **** up already.

Wow, that is a lot of hostility.

listopencil
10-07-2010, 04:21 PM
After all, a bubble screen or quick hitch basically is a running play, isn't it?

"No, I don't agree with that," said Orton, expressing not only his opinion, but also his survival instinct.

"You lose a lot in terms of play action. You lose a lot just in terms of allowing your offensive line to come off the ball and actually hit them. A lot of times, you become passive up front . . . I think you saw that a little bit last game. We were pass-protecting 50 times and when the defensive line doesn't really have to honor the run, they're in full pass mode the whole game."


"I think (lack of) balance ultimately will catch up to you," McDaniels said. "You can play some games and kind of lean more toward the passing game than the running game, but I think over the long haul if you play a season like that you're going to ask for trouble down the road. You're going to get your quarterback hit and you're certainly going to get played differently."

"You need a traditional running game because you need to have the threat," receiver Brandon Lloyd said. "You have the position of running back for a reason and you have to be able to run the ball, period. The short passing game won't make up for that."

"We're still trying to get an identity," tight end Daniel Graham said. "Right now we can't even run the ball, so we don't have an identity."


http://www.denverpost.com/krieger/ci_16273831

BroncoBuff
10-07-2010, 04:36 PM
Like always ... from the very start ... approve of his coaching, disapprove of his front office work.

It's looking more and more like that's reality.

BroncoBuff
10-07-2010, 04:39 PM
And I'm not gonna be shouted down for mentioning Jim Goodman. Especially now that more and more guys are falling here, Hillis is kicking ass and Torain is starting in DC.

Paladin
10-07-2010, 05:34 PM
This message is hidden because jhns is on your ignore list (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

Because smart Bronco fans do not pay him any attention.....

Lev Vyvanse
10-07-2010, 05:53 PM
Popps? Or jizz?

Are you serious?

jsco70
10-07-2010, 06:06 PM
And I'm not gonna be shouted down for mentioning Jim Goodman. Especially now that more and more guys are falling here, Hillis is kicking ass and Torain is starting in DC.

I'll give you Hillis, but Torain? Please. The guy was hurt thoughout and it isn't like the remaining 31 teams were beating down his door. If Torain becomes a player, then it isn't just Denver who missed out.

As for McD's front office work, he's made some great pickups in FA, and the draft. I agree in the 2009 draft wasn't very strong, but the 2010 class looks to be very solid. I think it's probably too early to make a strong judgement one way or the other.

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 06:09 PM
Arkie, Asso Wilson, Atwater His Ass, backup qb, Blart, bpc,bronco militia, BroncoBuff, BroncoSojia, colonelbeef, Donk, El Jué, go_broncos, Hajisan, Hamrob, Ingame, Jesterhole, Jetmeck, jhns, listopencil, Lolad, Marshall Dumervil, McSkillet, Mecklomaniac, Rausch 2.0, Riddi, scttgrd, spdirty, strafen

IF your name is in bold, you're a ****ing tosser.

That's right, a tosser.

b****es. (The rest of you I either dont know or at least have some semblance of respect for you that you are entitled to an opinion differing from my own).

Br0nc0Buster
10-07-2010, 06:27 PM
And I'm not gonna be shouted down for mentioning Jim Goodman. Especially now that more and more guys are falling here, Hillis is kicking ass and Torain is starting in DC.

and Brandon Lloyd is the top receiver so far this year
and Brian Dawkins made the probowl for us

see we have gotten production from other teams rejects as well

its not a one way street, it goes both ways
if your gonna hammer Josh for any perceived mistakes you should also give him props for some key guys he has brought it

go_broncos
10-07-2010, 06:41 PM
arkie, asso wilson, atwater his ass, backup qb, blart, bpc,bronco militia, broncobuff, broncosojia, colonelbeef, donk, el jué, go_broncos, hajisan, hamrob, ingame, jesterhole, jetmeck, jhns, listopencil, lolad, marshall dumervil, mcskillet, mecklomaniac, rausch 2.0, riddi, scttgrd, spdirty, strafen

if your name is in bold, you're a ****ing tosser.

That's right, a tosser.

B****es. (the rest of you i either dont know or at least have some semblance of respect for you that you are entitled to an opinion differing from my own).

rock chalk...you are idiot..f..king loser..go to hell..loser..go back you ****er..
DON'T EVER **** WITH ME...I just voted what was asked..if you don't like it..go back and suck Mcd's ****

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 06:44 PM
rock chalk...you are idiot..f..king loser..go to hell..loser..go back you ****er..
DON'T EVER **** WITH ME...I just voted what was asked..if you don't like it..go back and suck Mcd's ****

:rofl:

bowtown
10-07-2010, 06:47 PM
:rofl:

I also really like that he edited it. Probably thought up the second sentence a few minutes later.

Lev Vyvanse
10-07-2010, 06:47 PM
rock chalk...you are idiot..f..king loser..go to hell..loser..go back you ****er..
DON'T EVER **** WITH ME...I just voted what was asked..if you don't like it..go back and suck Mcd's ****

This is going to work, I have a really good feeling about it.

Los Broncos
10-07-2010, 06:49 PM
rock chalk...you are idiot..f..king loser..go to hell..loser..go back you ****er..
DON'T EVER **** WITH ME...I just voted what was asked..if you don't like it..go back and suck Mcd's ****

Tell us how you really feel.

baja
10-07-2010, 06:50 PM
rock chalk...you are idiot..f..king loser..go to hell..loser..go back you ****er..
DON'T EVER **** WITH ME...I just voted what was asked..if you don't like it..go back and suck Mcd's ****

Were you shouting and shooting spittle at you screen when he were typing this???

go_broncos
10-07-2010, 06:50 PM
If you don't want posters to vote 'I disapprove', then don't put that as an option while creating the thread.

Steve Sewell
10-07-2010, 06:52 PM
I am an irrational fan that had some of his favorite players given away.

:thanku:

baja
10-07-2010, 06:54 PM
rock chalk...you are idiot..f..king loser..go to hell..loser..go back you ****er..
DON'T EVER **** WITH ME...I just voted what was asked..if you don't like it..go back and suck Mcd's ****

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGLSCViQI8usBFyj9Z-hQlB1gmFrGrxMyFtq4p5lgUNNRnDMs&t=1&h=157&w=237&usg=__0qya2OhaAYk2OPpq17aAIVCMFWI=

Lev Vyvanse
10-07-2010, 06:55 PM
If you don't want posters to vote 'I disapprove', then don't put that as an option while creating the thread.

Don't you tell Montrose what to do you ****er...****ing loser... idiot mother****er... DON'T EVER **** WITH MONTROSE.

go_broncos
10-07-2010, 06:56 PM
Were you shouting and shooting spittle at you screen when he were typing this???

Baja..I told my opinion and he started it.
He abused me before in lot of threads.

one sample...

Originally Posted by go_broncos
Monday night football(NE vs MIA) is still not counted..
could you pls include it..

Rock Chalk response :

Shut the **** up.

I have a job, you know, I work for a living so if I dont get the god damn stats updated immediately deal with it you ****ing loser.

go_broncos
10-07-2010, 06:56 PM
Don't you tell Montrose what to do you ****er...****ing loser... idiot mother****er... DON'T EVER **** WITH MONTROSE.

ok...;D

TheReverend
10-07-2010, 06:57 PM
Arkie, Asso Wilson, Atwater His Ass, backup qb, Blart, bpc,bronco militia, BroncoBuff, BroncoSojia, colonelbeef, Donk, El Jué, go_broncos, Hajisan, Hamrob, Ingame, Jesterhole, Jetmeck, jhns, listopencil, Lolad, Marshall Dumervil, McSkillet, Mecklomaniac, Rausch 2.0, Riddi, scttgrd, spdirty, strafen

IF your name is in bold, you're a ****ing tosser.

That's right, a tosser.

b****es. (The rest of you I either dont know or at least have some semblance of respect for you that you are entitled to an opinion differing from my own).

I get happy when you post more.

listopencil
10-07-2010, 06:58 PM
Baja..I told my opinion and he started it.
He abused me before in lot of threads.

one sample...

Originally Posted by go_broncos
Monday night football(NE vs MIA) is still not counted..
could you pls include it..

Rock Chalk response :

Shut the **** up.

I have a job, you know, I work for a living so if I dont get the god damn stats updated immediately deal with it you ****ing loser.


I don't know, maybe...he just doesn't like you?

Lev Vyvanse
10-07-2010, 06:58 PM
Baja..I told my opinion and he started it.
He abused me before in lot of threads.

one sample...

Originally Posted by go_broncos
Monday night football(NE vs MIA) is still not counted..
could you pls include it..

Rock Chalk response :

Shut the **** up.

I have a job, you know, I work for a living so if I dont get the god damn stats updated immediately deal with it you ****ing loser.

Maybe he doesn't want to take **** for doing you a favor.

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 06:59 PM
rock chalk...you are idiot..f..king loser..go to hell..loser..go back you ****er..
DON'T EVER **** WITH ME...I just voted what was asked..if you don't like it..go back and suck Mcd's ****

Normally I would live up to my somewhat saltry reputation and eviscerate you, your mental midget takes, and your general lack of good smack.

Unfortunately I don't want to have to "View Post" every time you respond to yet another verbal ass beating.

baja
10-07-2010, 07:00 PM
Baja..I told my opinion and he started it.
He abused me before in lot of threads.

one sample...

Originally Posted by go_broncos
Monday night football(NE vs MIA) is still not counted..
could you pls include it..

Rock Chalk response :

Shut the **** up.

I have a job, you know, I work for a living so if I dont get the god damn stats updated immediately deal with it you ****ing loser.

It's your Yosemite Sam grade reaction that everyone is laughing at

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 07:01 PM
I get happy when you post more.

I've been busy lately. This week has been particularly rough. 14 hour work days trying to get projects finished (or at a point where the client will shut the **** up).

baja
10-07-2010, 07:03 PM
I get happy when you post more.

That's because you didn't see it before he edited it. You were on the list, in Bold. ;D

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 07:04 PM
That's because you didn't see it before he edited it. You were on the list, in Bold. ;D

Oh he knows that's bull****.

baja
10-07-2010, 07:08 PM
Oh he knows that's bull****.

Well his rep comment reads "Did he really!!!!!" ;D

go_broncos
10-07-2010, 07:11 PM
Normally I would live up to my somewhat saltry reputation and eviscerate you, your mental midget takes, and your general lack of good smack.

Unfortunately I don't want to have to "View Post" every time you respond to yet another verbal ass beating.

I want broncos to win..I am frustrated with our running game.
I want to see how Mcd improves our running game.
Until that happens, i don't like the direction as i believe running game is important for the success of this team.
That's my take.
I respect everyone's opinion and i don't criticize them as they dont agree with me.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 07:11 PM
Arkie, Asso Wilson, Atwater His Ass, backup qb, Blart, bpc,bronco militia, BroncoBuff, BroncoSojia, colonelbeef, Donk, El Jué, go_broncos, Hajisan, Hamrob, Ingame, Jesterhole, Jetmeck, jhns, listopencil, Lolad, Marshall Dumervil, McSkillet, Mecklomaniac, Rausch 2.0, Riddi, scttgrd, spdirty, strafen

IF your name is in bold, you're a ****ing tosser.

That's right, a tosser.

b****es. (The rest of you I either dont know or at least have some semblance of respect for you that you are entitled to an opinion differing from my own).

Wow, what a gem you are. I have a feeling you need to take your meds. So angry. Boy if you are wrong, I can't wait to see the meltdown. A thing of beauty it will be, haha. Talk about being invested in your boy.

go_broncos
10-07-2010, 07:13 PM
Wow, what a gem you are. I have a feeling you need to take your meds. So angry. Boy if you are wrong, I can't wait to see the meltdown. A thing of beauty it will be, haha. Talk about being invested in your boy.

he seems to be hot tempered. if he continues like that, he will have health issues.

Steve Sewell
10-07-2010, 07:16 PM
I want broncos to win..I am frustrated with our running game.
I want to see how Mcd improves our running game.
Until that happens, i don't like the direction as i believe running game is important for the success of this team.
That's my take.
I respect everyone's opinion and i don't criticize them as they dont agree with me.

The problem is that many of your takes are so hopelessly retarded that many here think you are trolling.

Steve Sewell
10-07-2010, 07:17 PM
Wow, what a gem you are. I have a feeling you need to take your meds. So angry. Boy if you are wrong, I can't wait to see the meltdown. A thing of beauty it will be, haha. Talk about being invested in your boy.

A wild scttard appears!

Rock Chalk
10-07-2010, 07:20 PM
Wow, what a gem you are. I have a feeling you need to take your meds. So angry. Boy if you are wrong, I can't wait to see the meltdown. A thing of beauty it will be, haha. Talk about being invested in your boy.

Invested in who?

You obviously know **** about dick.

I was against McDaniels hiring. Never liked it.

But I look at what he has done with this team and I see things going in the RIGHT direction.

I see a defense that fights hard, I see an offense that, when healthy, will be unstoppable. Id like to see our Special Teams fixed but ****, I've been waiting on that for 15 years. I can wait some more. Defense was more important to fix and I see something special out there. Especially considering Doom is gone for the year and we still actually forced incompletions from Manning and 3 and outs. It was amazing.

I am not angry.

There is a difference between being angry and just not liking someone.

Deal with it.

strafen
10-07-2010, 07:27 PM
Arkie, Asso Wilson, Atwater His Ass, backup qb, Blart, bpc,bronco militia, BroncoBuff, BroncoSojia, colonelbeef, Donk, El Jué, go_broncos, Hajisan, Hamrob, Ingame, Jesterhole, Jetmeck, jhns, listopencil, Lolad, Marshall Dumervil, McSkillet, Mecklomaniac, Rausch 2.0, Riddi, scttgrd, spdirty, strafen

IF your name is in bold, you're a ****ing tosser.

That's right, a tosser.

b****es. (The rest of you I either dont know or at least have some semblance of respect for you that you are entitled to an opinion differing from my own).

Thanks for the love man! :thumbsup:

Chris
10-07-2010, 07:42 PM
I want broncos to win..I am frustrated with our running game.
I want to see how Mcd improves our running game.
Until that happens, i don't like the direction as i believe running game is important for the success of this team.
That's my take.
I respect everyone's opinion and i don't criticize them as they dont agree with me.

We need more of this.

Jon Stewart's rally for sanity is about the mane.

strafen
10-07-2010, 07:45 PM
Arkie, Asso Wilson, Atwater His Ass, backup qb, Blart, bpc,bronco militia, BroncoBuff, BroncoSojia, colonelbeef, Donk, El Jué, go_broncos, Hajisan, Hamrob, Ingame, Jesterhole, Jetmeck, jhns, listopencil, Lolad, Marshall Dumervil, McSkillet, Mecklomaniac, Rausch 2.0, Riddi, scttgrd, spdirty, strafen

IF your name is in bold, you're a ****ing tosser.

That's right, a tosser.

b****es. (The rest of you I either dont know or at least have some semblance of respect for you that you are entitled to an opinion differing from my own).

So you copy and paste the names of those who voted for disapprove according to the poll question so you can attack them and make them pay for it?

This poll was created to gauge where the fan base stands on how they view Mcdaniels work so far.
I don't think this poll was created to be used as a witch-hunt against those of us who have expressed our opinions as WE see things.


What makes us wrong, and what makes you so right?
We're still a .500 team under McDaniels and we are 4-10 in the last 14 games.
Perhaps we've got higher expectations and higher standards than those who voted for approve?

Chill out!

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 07:46 PM
Invested in who?

You obviously know **** about dick.

I was against McDaniels hiring. Never liked it.

But I look at what he has done with this team and I see things going in the RIGHT direction.

I see a defense that fights hard, I see an offense that, when healthy, will be unstoppable. Id like to see our Special Teams fixed but ****, I've been waiting on that for 15 years. I can wait some more. Defense was more important to fix and I see something special out there. Especially considering Doom is gone for the year and we still actually forced incompletions from Manning and 3 and outs. It was amazing.

I am not angry.

There is a difference between being angry and just not liking someone.

Deal with it.

Things looked a lot like this last season, will they continue? I can say I might be wrong. But you are so invested and angry if anyone isn't on your page.

Also, are you really proud of beating the same Colts that lost to the Jaguars last week? Yeah, a real contender there.

TheReverend
10-07-2010, 07:49 PM
Well his rep comment reads "Did he really!!!!!" ;D

Oh he knows that's bull****.

bowtown
10-07-2010, 08:10 PM
No one riles 'em up quite like alec.

strafen
10-07-2010, 08:12 PM
No one riles 'em up quite like alec.You've got it wrong, man.
He is the ONE getting riled up, don't you think?

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 08:14 PM
No one riles 'em up quite like alec.

Nah, nobody cries like Alec. Don't agree with him and he tries his whiny routine. Cry us a river buddy, and dance while you are at it. You dance when you don't get to tell us how to cheer for our team.

baja
10-07-2010, 08:27 PM
Oh he knows that's bull****.

I just can't get nothin over on you guys can I? :pimp:

Dagmar
10-07-2010, 08:35 PM
I'd be interested in a Q1 poll of Wink Martindale.

strafen
10-07-2010, 08:38 PM
I'd be interested in a Q1 poll of Wink Martindale.I can tell you that the man has excelled my expectations so far.
I didn't think he was going to do a good of a job as he has shown so far.
I definitely give him a passing grade, that's for sure...

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 08:42 PM
I can tell you that the man has excelled my expectations so far.
I didn't think he was going to do a good of a job as he has shown so far.
I definitely give him a passing grade, that's for sure...

Last year this time Nolan was a hero too. I really want things to continue, but it's a long season.

Br0nc0Buster
10-07-2010, 08:59 PM
I'd be interested in a Q1 poll of Wink Martindale.

I approve

Lev Vyvanse
10-07-2010, 09:04 PM
I'd be interested in a Q1 poll of Wink Martindale.

Start the thread already.

go_broncos
10-07-2010, 09:04 PM
I'd be interested in a Q1 poll of Wink Martindale.

I also approve..He is doing a good job.

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 09:10 PM
I also approve..He is doing a good job.

So was Nolan this time last year. Let's give it some time before we call him the next Buddy Ryan.

strafen
10-07-2010, 09:17 PM
So was Nolan this time last year. Let's give it some time before we call him the next Buddy Ryan.

Nobody is calling him anything.
The books are closed on Q1 and he did a good job.
That things may turn later on, then that's a poll for another day
I know what you mean, though...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 09:42 PM
So was Nolan this time last year. Let's give it some time before we call him the next Buddy Ryan.

Don't anyone get excited about the team you root for! Temper your thoughts! Hate your team!

The MVPlaya
10-07-2010, 09:44 PM
Don't anyone get excited about the team you root for! Temper your thoughts! Hate your team!

:rofl:

scttgrd
10-07-2010, 10:09 PM
Don't anyone get excited about the team you root for! Temper your thoughts! Hate your team!

Oh no! How dare we embrace reality! If you are wrong I see a long absence in your future. Me, I will still be here rooting for my favorite team. Not slobbering over the new shinny coach that got me all hot in the a**.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-07-2010, 10:16 PM
Oh no! How dare we embrace reality! If you are wrong I see a long absence in your future. Me, I will still be here rooting for my favorite team. Not slobbering over the new shinny coach that got me all hot in the a**.

Ah, yes, the reality argument. Classic. Unoriginal, but are we really surprised coming from you?

Your version of reality, son.

Keep ****in' that chicken.

The MVPlaya
10-07-2010, 10:20 PM
"All it is another win guys. We may have won the Super Bowl, but we have to start worrying about next season. Our coach has never coached a team after the SB yet. Don't get too excited"

- scottgrd 2 minutes after the '97 Super Bowl


"Guys, Elway is going to retire. Terrell Davis legs are tired after 2 seasons of too many carries. There is no chance we win next year. I think it's time to quit following this team, because I know our chances of winning next year are next none. That is the reality guys."

- scottgrd 2.5 minutes after the '98 Super Bowl

BroncoBuff
10-08-2010, 02:21 AM
and Brandon Lloyd is the top receiver so far this year and Brian Dawkins made the probowl for us

see we have gotten production from other teams rejects as well

its not a one way street, it goes both ways
if your gonna hammer Josh for any perceived mistakes you should also give him props for some key guys he has brought it

No no, I'm talking just about draft success. For three years there he was a zen master, absolute master. To this day, just ONE of the 20 picks he made in 06, 07, 08 are out of the league. A-freaking-mazing. Every one of those 19 guys has now been around longer that the average NFL career lasts. Strange how Goodman hasn't been hired anywhere two years running now ??? You'd think Shanahan would've brought him in the way he complimented him all the time.

Besides, I'm not anti-Josh the coach, just anti-Josh the GM/co-GM.

The fact that a journeyman like Lloyd (who barely saw the field for us last year) is the leading receiver for the #1 passing offense in football is testament to Josh's offensive Genius, or near-genius anyway.

I just wish we had kept Goodman in charge upstairs ... hard to argue the last two drafts would've been better.

errand
10-08-2010, 04:32 AM
Alright I guess I'm in that group since I don't post much I'm clearly clueless.

Your replies might be why people think you're clueless..

why I disapprove:

McDaniels will suck the cock of anyone associated with the Patriots.

Yeah, cuz trying to emulate a team that's won 3 titles and played for 4 in the past decade is irretrievably stupid right? I suppose had he chosen to copy the Lions you'd be all giddy?

He can cram that power blocking crap straight up his ass.

Bill Parcells, who knows a thing or two about winning titles said it best "Power wins..."
Hillis.

Mike Nolan.

I never liked the hire, but I want him to succeed. So far this year he's succeeding in pissing me off. Maybe it's still being a newb coach, maybe he will get his **** together. I hope so. Anyway, as far as Q1 of the season, I disapprove.

in bold

BroncoBuff
10-08-2010, 07:01 AM
Arkie, Asso Wilson, Atwater His Ass, backup qb, Blart, bpc,bronco militia, BroncoBuff, BroncoSojia, colonelbeef, Donk, El Jué, go_broncos, Hajisan, Hamrob, Ingame, Jesterhole, Jetmeck, jhns, listopencil, Lolad, Marshall Dumervil, McSkillet, Mecklomaniac, Rausch 2.0, Riddi, scttgrd, spdirty, strafen

IF your name is in bold, you're a ****ing tosser..

Hold on Alec, you might have that backwards ... my name is in bold.

BroncoBuff
10-08-2010, 07:13 AM
http://images.askmen.com/photos/don-cheadle/79463.jpg

Alec and this guy ... the only two.

Rock Chalk
10-08-2010, 09:35 AM
You've got it wrong, man.
He is the ONE getting riled up, don't you think?

No, they know better.

I dont really give a **** :)

Rock Chalk
10-08-2010, 09:36 AM
Hold on Alec, you might have that backwards ... my name is in bold.

No, I got it right.

Tosser :)

PS:
To be fair I was quite drunk last night, but I stand by what I typed.

BroncoBuff
10-08-2010, 09:39 AM
No, I got it right.

Tosser :)

PS:
To be fair I was quite drunk last night, but I stand by what I typed.

So why should anything change now?

You and this guy, A-Dub ... you're the only ones:


http://images.askmen.com/photos/don-cheadle/79463.jpg



Just curious ... what were you drinking?

Rock Chalk
10-08-2010, 09:40 AM
Crown Reserve. Im slightly higher class than Orton.

I have had a long week at work and had not had a drop to drink in about 3 weeks. Last night I indulged.

Good times.

Oh and WTF do Don Cheadle and I have in common? Well besides the obvious of both being pure Awesome.

BroncoBuff
10-08-2010, 09:54 AM
Crown Reserve. Im slightly higher class than Orton.

Oh and WTF do Don Cheadle and I have in common? Well besides the obvious of both being pure Awesome.

I'm a Jameson man myself ... and a lifelong committed Anglophile.

So it seems strange that you and Cheadle are the only guys I've ever heard use the word "tosser" ... I think it's British slang.

Rock Chalk
10-08-2010, 09:57 AM
I'm a Jameson man myself ... and a lifelong committed Anglophile.

So it seems strange that you and Cheadle are the only guys I've ever heard use the word "tosser" ... I think it's British slang.

It is, means masturbator. In this case, self masturbation on a ridiculous opinion :)

frerottenextelway
10-24-2010, 02:12 PM
bump

Jetmeck
10-24-2010, 02:17 PM
McHoodie has just managed to embarass me more than all the disastrous superbowl losses combined. The guy is beyond pathetic.