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mkporter
10-01-2010, 10:23 AM
Week 3 analysis from profootballfocus.com. I kinda like the work that these guys do. They seem to be at least reasonably knowledgeable and objective. A different approach than most sites.

Re-Focused: Week 3, Indianapolis at Denver
October 1st, 2010 | Author: Chris Benson

It wasn’t difficult to see why the Colts came away with the “W” in this one: Despite putting up just more than 500 total yards on offense, the Broncos displayed one of the worst red-zone performances in recent memory.

Denver had every opportunity to win this game, as its defense far outplayed Indy’s, but play-calling in the red zone and failure to execute cost the Broncos this game.

Colts: Three performances of note

In the absence of Pierre Garcon and Anthony Gonzalez, Peyton Manning needed WR Austin Collie (+2.6) to step up against a Broncos secondary featuring a rookie CB starting on one side and a less than 100 percent Champ Bailey on the other. Out of necessity, Collie was thrown at 15 times and made sure to make the most of the increased targets, hauling in 12 passes for 171 yards and two of Manning’s three scoring tosses. It’s one of the best performances by a wideout we’ve seen thus far.

TE Brodie Eldridge (-2.0) really disappointed after doing a solid job run blocking last week. Eldridge failed to take advantage of the one thing that will earn him playing time: Dallas Clark‘s poor blocking. The rookie TE will dictate his own playing time this year, as he will not see the field much if he cannot compensate for Clark’s blocking in double-TE sets.

The player most victimized in Indy’s secondary was CB Jerraud Powers (-1.9) playing mostly in the slot, though he saw time at RCB against most two-wideout sets. Thrown at 18 times, Powers gave up 11 catches, accounting for 192 of Kyle Orton‘s passing yards. He broke up two passes, but was also beaten deep over the middle by resurgent WR Brandon Lloyd for a 48-yard touchdown.

Broncos: Three performances of note

On an otherwise bleak day for the Denver O-line, LT Ryan Clady (+1.9) made some progress towards returning to pre-injury form. Clady has looked, at times, stiff and awkward in pass protection, which can be attributed to a still-continuing recovery from his offseason injury. On Sunday, however, he was much more fluid and quick, giving up two pressures while lining up against all-pro DE Dwight Freeney. Clady has improved his pass-blocking grade each week so far this young season.

Speaking of continually improving players, OLB Robert Ayers (+4.6) enjoyed his best overall game as a pro, two weeks after setting his previous best grade. In fact, the Broncos had more players grade green than red, which is indicative of the positives points Josh McDaniels can take from this loss. For his part, Ayers recorded six total pressures and two stops on defense. Ayers’ run support is better than Elvis Dumervil‘s, and if he can continue to rush the passer effectively, the two will form a menacing tandem next season.

Considering the Broncos lost, not everyone could have had a good game. Slot receiver Eddie Royal (-2.1) was one of the poorer performers, catching less than half (four) of the balls thrown his way (nine) and posting a negative grade in every category except run blocking. Royal was also penalized once in the red zone.

Rookie report

The Broncos’ rookie linemen struggled once again, though you can’t blame RT Zane Beadles for not knowing how to block Robert Mathis. Wide receiver Demaryius Thomas posted a positive grade once again and was especially impressive with his run blocking, which wasn’t displayed as much last week. Thomas’ performance so far hasn’t been statistically excellent, but he looks great on the field and has all the tools to become a star receiver someday. … On the other side of the ball, Perrish Cox (+3.2) played the whole game in place of RCB Andre Goodman, who was inactive. Cox played better than could have been expected for a rookie starting at cornerback, a position where first-year players typically struggle. He was beaten a few times and gave up a touchdown to another rookie, practice squad callup Blair White, but defended solidly for the most part while being tested often throughout the game.

First-rounder Jerry Hughes made his way into a game for the first time for the Colts, recording a pressure on two snaps. Kavell Conner started at OLB and was injured at the end of the first quarter.

Random notes

With only three available wide receivers, one making his first start, the Colts were forced to use their starting wideouts more than usual. Reggie Wayne played all 68 offensive snaps and counterpart Collie missed only five. … Think the Broncos were worried about Manning tearing apart their secondary? On 64 of 68 defensive snaps, the Broncos lined up at least five in the back.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2010/10/01/re-focused-indianapolis-at-denver/

TonyR
10-01-2010, 10:39 AM
Good stuff. I particularly liked the comment on the potential Ayers-Dumervil combo. Lot's of agreement with things many have said recently on this forum about Clady, Ayers, D Thomas, and Cox. Unfortunate info on Royal who for whatever reason doesn't seem to be the caliber of player we all thought he was his rookie year.

mkporter
10-01-2010, 10:43 AM
Good stuff. I particularly liked the comment on the potential Ayers-Dumervil combo. Lot's of agreement with things many have said recently on this forum about Clady, Ayers, D Thomas, and Cox. Unfortunate info on Royal who for whatever reason doesn't seem to be the caliber of player we all thought he was his rookie year.

I think it's probably a little early to bail out on Royal. They noted him as having a good game in week 2 (+2). His issue last year was that he had to learn to play a new position. Playing the slot is a lot different than playing out wide.

Quoydogs
10-01-2010, 10:46 AM
I think Royal has done an excellent job this year. How much more do you want him to do?

TonyR
10-01-2010, 10:48 AM
I think it's probably a little early to bail out on Royal.

Agree. I think he can and will have a good career. However, and I hope I'm wrong, I have doubts he'll ever become the level of player I hoped he would during/after his rookie season.

FantomForce
10-01-2010, 10:55 AM
"Demaryius Thomas posted a positive grade once again and was especially impressive with his run blocking, " this part made me smile. I remember some great WRs in the past that could block well Rod Smith and Eddie Mac

The Joker
10-01-2010, 11:16 AM
Agree. I think he can and will have a good career. However, and I hope I'm wrong, I have doubts he'll ever become the level of player I hoped he would during/after his rookie season.

I think in this offense he's going to be the kind of guy who'll get you roughly 80 catches for near enough 1000 yards and maybe 4-6 TD's a season.

Don't think he'll ever be the kind of elite player we might have hoped for as you said, but I still think he can be a very good contributor for us for many years to come.

Would be great if he could step up and show something in the return game. He looked much more decisive against Indy than he did on a lot of his returns last season. He was seen as a potentially elite return man coming out, would be nice if he could start looking like it.

Harvitz81
10-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Love, love, love seeing Ayers come into his own. He played a hell of a game against Indy and can only imagine what he would be like when teams have to double Elvis.

I think we have our OLBs set for the foreseeable future.

Mediator12
10-01-2010, 04:11 PM
I was fine with their "analysis" until they said Powers was covering on the 48 yard TD pass. This is the type of mistakes amateurs make. INDY was in cover three with Bullit over the top in deep middle coverage. Bullit bit on the inside fake, and even though Powers ended up being the closest to the play he had deep OUTSIDE coverage. To say that Powers struggled is wrong. In fact, their secondary attributions are really poor.

Houshyamama
10-01-2010, 04:27 PM
I was fine with their "analysis" until they said Powers was covering on the 48 yard TD pass. This is the type of mistakes amateurs make. INDY was in cover three with Bullit over the top in deep middle coverage. Bullit bit on the inside fake, and even though Powers ended up being the closest to the play he had deep OUTSIDE coverage. To say that Powers struggled is wrong. In fact, their secondary attributions are really poor.

what do you do for a living?

mkporter
10-01-2010, 04:45 PM
I was fine with their "analysis" until they said Powers was covering on the 48 yard TD pass. This is the type of mistakes amateurs make. INDY was in cover three with Bullit over the top in deep middle coverage. Bullit bit on the inside fake, and even though Powers ended up being the closest to the play he had deep OUTSIDE coverage. To say that Powers struggled is wrong. In fact, their secondary attributions are really poor.

I'll defer to the expert on this point. Although it has to be difficult making these attributions without the benefit of all-22 footage. I wish the NFL would release this in a format accessible to the average fan. I'd love to learn more about the intricacies of alignments, personnel groupings, and strategy.

Hogan11
10-01-2010, 04:48 PM
Love, love, love seeing Ayers come into his own. He played a hell of a game against Indy and can only imagine what he would be like when teams have to double Elvis.

I think we have our OLBs set for the foreseeable future.

Can you imagine how it would be if Moss ever would amount to anything??

Rock Chalk
10-01-2010, 07:16 PM
what do you do for a living?

He's a psychologist or some crap.

But he's got an in in the football world we aren't supposed to mention. Needless to say he is right more often than he is wrong.

Houshyamama
10-01-2010, 07:19 PM
He's a psychologist or some crap.

But he's got an in in the football world we aren't supposed to mention. Needless to say he is right more often than he is wrong.

Yeah, it definitely doesn't hurt my brain to read his posts. Which is more than I can say for a lot of guys here ;D

Harvitz81
10-01-2010, 10:58 PM
Can you imagine how it would be if Moss ever would amount to anything??

Moss, lol I've finally given up on him.

Cracks me up to see how much hate McD gets for drafting Moreno and trading up for Smith. Shanny traded 2 picks to trade up for this POS.

That entire draft class is almost worthless. Harris is good when he can stay healthy. Thomas at least seems to be contributing. But man did Shanny completely whiff on the first 2 draft picks that year.

Rock Chalk
10-02-2010, 05:44 AM
Moss, lol I've finally given up on him.

Cracks me up to see how much hate McD gets for drafting Moreno and trading up for Smith. Shanny traded 2 picks to trade up for this POS.

That entire draft class is almost worthless. Harris is good when he can stay healthy. Thomas at least seems to be contributing. But man did Shanny completely whiff on the first 2 draft picks that year.

One of the many epic draft class failures of Shanny's regime.

To be fair, Thomas was drafted in the 4th round and everyone said he had 1st round talent, everyone, but had character issues. So overall I think Thomas was a good draft pick. Hasn't lived up to the first round talent hype but certainly has lived up to his draft slot.

chrisp
10-03-2010, 05:38 AM
One of the many epic draft class failures of Shanny's regime.

To be fair, Thomas was drafted in the 4th round and everyone said he had 1st round talent, everyone, but had character issues. So overall I think Thomas was a good draft pick. Hasn't lived up to the first round talent hype but certainly has lived up to his draft slot.

You mean Demaryus Thomas? Perhaps you're confusing him with Marshall, Thomas was drafted #22 in the first round.

Also, I think that so far he's impressed - first round WRs don't always contribute in their first year and he's already out there making plays and putting up numbers for us......that's pretty decent, plus he's showing the odd flash of brilliance that could mean he's going to be something special, remember he's only a rookie...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-03-2010, 06:06 AM
You mean Demaryus Thomas? Perhaps you're confusing him with Marshall, Thomas was drafted #22 in the first round.

Also, I think that so far he's impressed - first round WRs don't always contribute in their first year and he's already out there making plays and putting up numbers for us......that's pretty decent, plus he's showing the odd flash of brilliance that could mean he's going to be something special, remember he's only a rookie...

I think he means Marcus Thomas, from Florida.

Drek
10-03-2010, 08:38 AM
Moss, lol I've finally given up on him.

Cracks me up to see how much hate McD gets for drafting Moreno and trading up for Smith. Shanny traded 2 picks to trade up for this POS.

That entire draft class is almost worthless. Harris is good when he can stay healthy. Thomas at least seems to be contributing. But man did Shanny completely whiff on the first 2 draft picks that year.

Which was actually our first three picks, since we sent one of our two thirds along with our 1st to move up for Moss.

The other guys we were looking at? Harrell and Timmons. The later is now looking like a player after several years on the bench in Pittsburgh. The former is a nobody rotational player who likely won't be with the Packers in the not so distant future.

Completely **** talent evaluation in the early rounds, coupled with a complete unwillingness to stand by his grades for guys, produced absolutely horrible drafts under Shanahan. Not only was he often wrong in his assessment of collegiate talent, he'd step well above even their high draft value to grab them.