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broncosteven
09-26-2010, 08:03 PM
So ever since the dude was drafted I read all these fluff pieces and heard about how dangerous he was going to be in the redzone and on short yardage. The whole thing about his run/pass option and how he destroyed teams with his jump pass in college etc...

Should we expect to see the guy at all this year?

Thoughts?

broncocalijohn
09-26-2010, 08:11 PM
Ive already mentioned it in another thread and last week but putting Tebow in on this goal line stances or 3rd and two in some cases would spread the defense out as they wouldnt know if he is handing it off, running it himself or passing it. We know Orton isnt running it and I am sure Tebow is capable of handing a ball off to a running back.

WolfpackGuy
09-26-2010, 08:13 PM
Not sure?

Giving the defense something else to think about would've been nice because they know the Broncos can't run normal running plays.

You give up 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks for a guy, you better do something with him!

barryr
09-26-2010, 08:15 PM
I think they clearly need Tebow in short yardage siince o-line just can't get it done in the running game.

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 08:18 PM
Ive already mentioned it in another thread and last week but putting Tebow in on this goal line stances or 3rd and two in some cases would spread the defense out as they wouldnt know if he is handing it off, running it himself or passing it. We know Orton isnt running it and I am sure Tebow is capable of handing a ball off to a running back.

I knew there had to be some sort of discussion about him somewhere, I hesitated starting a thread about him but figured it warranted discussion as he was a 1st round pick and we struggled mightly today on shortyardage and inside the redzone.

Taco John
09-26-2010, 08:23 PM
If we didn't use him today, I don't see why we'd expect to use him at all this season. That's not a criticism, by the way. As far as I'm concerned, Tebow is the franchise right now giving hope for the future. I'd rather see him brought along like Aaron Rodgers than thrown in like Cutler.

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 08:24 PM
I think they clearly need Tebow in short yardage siince o-line just can't get it done in the running game.

What I don't get is that at one point Simms said that mCd puts in different plays every week (which I thought all teams did anyway) but I can't figure out why they can't design something that plays to Tebows strengths without killing the flow of the offense.

When you have 2nd, 3rd, 4th and goal from inside the 5 why not have a play that stretches the D out and gives him an option for a quick slant or run option.

If he is struggling with the O and they don't trust him fine, maybe with this staff we won't know what is going on now until a couple years from now if ever. I am cool with mCd not showing his cards but we were fed a lot of crap about why they made this pick and how he was going to be able to come in this year and make an impact and so far he hasn't.

I want to get in on the Tebow lovefest but it is hard when I would have rather seen them draft a DL and Tebow can't seem to get on the field.

barryr
09-26-2010, 08:27 PM
What I don't get is that at one point Simms said that mCd puts in different plays every week (which I thought all teams did anyway) but I can't figure out why they can't design something that plays to Tebows strengths without killing the flow of the offense.

When you have 2nd, 3rd, 4th and goal from inside the 5 why not have a play that stretches the D out and gives him an option for a quick slant or run option.

If he is struggling with the O and they don't trust him fine, maybe with this staff we won't know what is going on now until a couple years from now if ever. I am cool with mCd not showing his cards but we were fed a lot of crap about why they made this pick and how he was going to be able to come in this year and make an impact and so far he hasn't.

I want to get in on the Tebow lovefest but it is hard when I would have rather seen them draft a DL and Tebow can't seem to get on the field.

Agreed, if they can't move the pile, then stretch it out and make defenses have to figure out if a run or pass is coming. You know Orton won't run much so seems like they need another option here.

montrose
09-26-2010, 08:28 PM
Not sure about anyone else, but on that 4th and Goal play from the 1 I would've like to see Tebow. Just sayin...

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 08:30 PM
If we didn't use him today, I don't see why we'd expect to use him at all this season. That's not a criticism, by the way. As far as I'm concerned, Tebow is the franchise right now giving hope for the future. I'd rather see him brought along like Aaron Rodgers than thrown in like Cutler.

I am not expecting him to be brought in for a series, I just remember reading about how excited mCd was after the draft to have his talent on the roster and to be able to use him in so many different ways on short yardage and near the goal line and...well they aren't using him at all.

With the way Orton is playing we don't need a new QB, but Tebow is supposed to be able to do things with his speed and size in short yardage and at the goalline and well...they aren't using him.

Let Orton play but use Tebow where he can make an impact, at least until we get a run game that can pick up 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 08:33 PM
Not sure about anyone else, but on that 4th and Goal play from the 1 I would've like to see Tebow. Just sayin...

I am not a Tebow fan but just something different, we are not at the point where we can just line up and kick ass straight up in the run game. Use some deception.

mCd is very creative in the passing game. I like how they slide the Oline like it is a stretch run to the right then come back to the leftside in a pass. Kind of like the way Shanny used plummer on the misdirection boots but different.

broncocalijohn
09-26-2010, 08:40 PM
I knew there had to be some sort of discussion about him somewhere, I hesitated starting a thread about him but figured it warranted discussion as he was a 1st round pick and we struggled mightly today on shortyardage and inside the redzone.

I was gonna let someone else start a thread as I just popped it in there on a non tebow thread. This will get play, trust me.

WolfpackGuy
09-26-2010, 08:41 PM
I am not a Tebow fan but just something different, we are not at the point where we can just line up and kick ass straight up in the run game. Use some deception.

mCd is very creative in the passing game. I like how they slide the Oline like it is a stretch run to the right then come back to the leftside in a pass. Kind of like the way Shanny used plummer on the misdirection boots but different.

I think they go to the well on that play too much. One of these days someone is going to stay home on the off side and have themselves an easy pick 6. I'm also not a big fan of that play because of how long it takes to get the ball to the receiver who is often at a standstill when the catch is made.

epicSocialism4tw
09-26-2010, 08:46 PM
Not sure about anyone else, but on that 4th and Goal play from the 1 I would've like to see Tebow. Just sayin...

Yup.

That One Guy
09-26-2010, 08:49 PM
We saw Tebow in the opener but haven't seen him since. I think that probably tells you they've rethought things since. Also, if they consider the chance of keeping Orton if he continues to succeed, they probably don't want him looking over his shoulder at the guy stealing his glory. Remember, McNabb got upset when Vick would come in and it surely wasn't just about the tempo of the game as he claimed.

Makes me wonder if they would've went Tebow if they'd known how well Orton was going to play this year.

SoCalBronco
09-26-2010, 08:51 PM
Tebow would have scored from the 8 much less the 1 or 2 yard line.

:)

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 08:57 PM
We saw Tebow in the opener but haven't seen him since. I think that probably tells you they've rethought things since. Also, if they consider the chance of keeping Orton if he continues to succeed, they probably don't want him looking over his shoulder at the guy stealing his glory. Remember, McNabb got upset when Vick would come in and it surely wasn't just about the tempo of the game as he claimed.

Makes me wonder if they would've went Tebow if they'd known how well Orton was going to play this year.

I am not talking about Tebow in the passing game, I am talking about his "Te-Cat" wildcat potential.

Hell even Shanny used Cutler in the option inside the 10 a couple times. Just give the D something to think about until we can line up and control the LOS in the run game.

Orton is playing very well and deserves to keep his job but there is no reason from a fans perspective that Tebow can't come in on a shortyardage running play to pick up a 1st down or a TD.

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 09:00 PM
I was gonna let someone else start a thread as I just popped it in there on a non tebow thread. This will get play, trust me.

I didn't want to have to start it either but figured there had to be some frustration in the shortyardage/redzone conversion.

ro_50
09-26-2010, 09:09 PM
Maybe McDaniels just wants Tebow to focus primarily on being a quarterback and not a short-yardage specialist.

But then again, he is probably their best option in short yardage.

I don't see how a few plays in that package will curtail his development.

This team has no short yardage game, why not just use him and see what happens.

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 09:13 PM
Maybe McDaniels just wants Tebow to focus primarily on being a quarterback and not a short-yardage specialist.

But then again, he is probably their best option in short yardage.

I don't see how a few plays in that package will curtail his development.

This team has no short yardage game, why not just use him and see what happens.

Exactly

Dutch
09-26-2010, 09:24 PM
I didn't want to have to start it either but figured there had to be some frustration in the shortyardage/redzone conversion.

BS Steven. You started it so don't hedge the bet. They stated strait up that Quinn had a very good week in practice and did not feel this was a good week for Tebow to play. This was not South Carolina, Georgia, or Sister Mary and the children of the poor we played against this week. I expect this kind of bs, just not from you, bro'. REBUILDING get used to it, you are old enough to remember the ugly days. Get over it. Pouring gas on the fire then backing up saying..."oh, just thought we needed to see what would happen". Weak ass **** Steven, and frankly expect more from you.

HAT
09-26-2010, 09:26 PM
So ever since the dude was drafted I read all these fluff pieces and heard about how dangerous he was going to be in the redzone and on short yardage. The whole thing about his run/pass option and how he destroyed teams with his jump pass in college etc...

Should we expect to see the guy at all this year?

Thoughts?

Stupidness....You has it.

Rabb
09-26-2010, 09:29 PM
Was Brown active today? I was wondering why we didn't use him in short yardage, that is sorta' his thing.

broncosteven
09-26-2010, 09:35 PM
BS Steven. You started it so don't hedge the bet. They stated strait up that Quinn had a very good week in practice and did not feel this was a good week for Tebow to play. This was not South Carolina, Georgia, or Sister Mary and the children of the poor we played against this week. I expect this kind of bs, just not from you, bro'. REBUILDING get used to it, you are old enough to remember the ugly days. Get over it. Pouring gas on the fire then backing up saying..."oh, just thought we needed to see what would happen". Weak ass **** Steven, and frankly expect more from you.

Huh?

Is this for real? I just asked if we should expect to see Tebow the rest of the year utilized like they did in week 1. Not hating just confused. I didn't see the piece you mentioned about Quinn, a link would be great, I didn't realize Quinn was #2.

Was Tebow inactive or the #3 QB because that would easily explain why he wasn't available to come in on any special short yardage/goalline plays.

Honest I wasn't hating as much as I was confused. I have said repeatedly that I would have rather seen them pick a DL over Tebow (or Knowgain for that matter) but since he is on the team why wasn't he used. Inactive would have explained it. Not sure why you felt the need to neg rep.

Dutch
09-26-2010, 09:48 PM
Huh?

Is this for real? I just asked if we should expect to see Tebow the rest of the year utilized like they did in week 1. Not hating just confused. I didn't see the piece you mentioned about Quinn, a link would be great, I didn't realize Quinn was #2.

Was Tebow inactive or the #3 QB because that would easily explain why he wasn't available to come in on any special short yardage/goalline plays.

Honest I wasn't hating as much as I was confused. I have said repeatedly that I would have rather seen them pick a DL over Tebow (or Knowgain for that matter) but since he is on the team why wasn't he used. Inactive would have explained it. Not sure why you felt the need to neg rep.

Yep, it is for real. Tebow was listed as game inactive and the #3 QB today (I'll find the link when I get a chance, upgrading routers as we speak). Don't half step on the launching of this, if you want to criticize the pick, do so. Don't take the soft ass, "I'm confused" approach. Weak, and yeah, I do expect more from you. As for the continued critisism of Knowshon, get over it. The young man will be good, once we get an O-line who has played together long enough to actually run block. Damned dude, I expected more out of you....seriously. We've got a lot to work on, no doubt. But if you choose to go down this route, sorry...but you've lost me. Rome wasn't built in a day. We had MUCH that needed fixing. I like the foundation being laid by this team. If it takes a couple of years, so be it. Probably won't be any NFL next year anyway, so 2012 we will be in a great place. Tebow will make you smile in 2012-2013. Get over it already. Oh, and by the way...neg rep me all you want to, who frankly gives a **** anyway?

Popps
09-26-2010, 09:49 PM
Agree. Put him in at the goal line and at least create the threat of a sneak.

Sassy
09-26-2010, 09:59 PM
Tebow demoted to third qb?

Just said on the post game...

Popps
09-26-2010, 10:43 PM
Tebow demoted to third qb?

Just said on the post game...

Yea, I'm not sure what that's about. Quinn is making progress?

Tebow hasn't really had a chance to get on the field much. I would have liked to see him at least try to stuff it in from the 1 yard line today.

SoCalBronco
09-26-2010, 10:52 PM
I thought I heard something from Josh to the effect that Tebow's ribs are still bothering him...could be wrong.

Dagmar
09-26-2010, 10:55 PM
I thought I heard something from Josh to the effect that Tebow's ribs are still bothering him...could be wrong.

He did say that his ribs were still bothering him.

Pseudofool
09-26-2010, 11:23 PM
Josh is going to run Tebow out there a whole lot at some point this season. It's just the way McDaniels works, he's going to have a whole contingent of new plays with a particular bent each week. (See playaction/bootlegs today). One week, he'll use Tebow because the other team won't expect it.

The fact that Tebow showed up in the first game suggests to me that it's only a matter of time before he's out there again, as Josh clearly isn't afraid to throw the guy into the fire. The first game wasn't about fooling the opponents as much as about getting Tebows debut out of the way (and in his home was all-the-better).

Dagmar
09-26-2010, 11:29 PM
Josh is going to run Tebow out there a whole lot at some point this season. It's just the way McDaniels works, he's going to have a whole contingent of new plays with a particular bent each week. (See playaction/bootlegs today). One week, he'll use Tebow because the other team won't expect it.

The fact that Tebow showed up in the first game suggests to me that it's only a matter of time before he's out there again, as Josh clearly isn't afraid to throw the guy into the fire. The first game wasn't about fooling the opponents as much as about getting Tebows debut out of the way (and in his home was all-the-better).

The Tebow paradox. In order to put him in, you have to replace the best offensive player, and leader of this team. Which will never go well.

randomtask
09-26-2010, 11:38 PM
The Tebow paradox. In order to put him in, you have to replace the best offensive player, and leader of this team. Which will never go well.

Or you could just put him in at one of the FB/RB positions in the shotgun. Then they don't know who's getting the snap. Or one of those packages where a qb lines up at WR, or something.

Pseudofool
09-26-2010, 11:54 PM
The Tebow paradox. In order to put him in, you have to replace the best offensive player, and leader of this team. Which will never go well.Orton may be on teh field with him, but if anyone can lead from the sidelines for a few plays and not get disgruntled about it, it's Orton.

extralife
09-27-2010, 12:01 AM
Totally called this before the season.

Popps
09-27-2010, 12:18 AM
Totally called this before the season.

No one cares.

Trust me.

extralife
09-27-2010, 12:31 AM
oh the irony

Taco John
09-27-2010, 12:32 AM
Klis reported that Tebow was inactive for today's game, and was only available as the emergency #3 if both Quinn and Orton were hurt.

broncocalijohn
09-27-2010, 12:48 AM
I would like to hear this in the presser tomorrow. THis could have been the difference of a win and our loss.

meangene
09-27-2010, 04:06 AM
After this dismal red-zone performance, Josh has got to seriously re-think using Tebow on short-yardage and goal-line situations. The run/pass option he brings would have to open things up and make it harder for the defense to make reads. I don't see using him in those situations would be an issue for either Orton or the rest of the team. Until this o-line has a chance to gel, we need all the help we can get in short-yardage.

Rock Chalk
09-27-2010, 04:13 AM
Ive already mentioned it in another thread and last week but putting Tebow in on this goal line stances or 3rd and two in some cases would spread the defense out as they wouldnt know if he is handing it off, running it himself or passing it. We know Orton isnt running it and I am sure Tebow is capable of handing a ball off to a running back.

Hey Orton ran for a first down yesterday. I was impressed he didn't fall over himself in doing it too :)

That One Guy
09-27-2010, 05:21 AM
Ahh... well still hurt and the #3 explains everything.

But the thread concept was fun while it lasted.

Dedhed
09-27-2010, 06:54 AM
So ever since the dude was drafted I read all these fluff pieces and heard about how dangerous he was going to be in the redzone and on short yardage. The whole thing about his run/pass option and how he destroyed teams with his jump pass in college etc...

Should we expect to see the guy at all this year?

Thoughts?
You answered your own question. FLUFF PIECES. I would be thankful for a coach who isn't cowed by the media fluff.

oubronco
09-27-2010, 07:09 AM
Maybe he is just sooooooo darn good at holding that clipboard

jmz313
09-27-2010, 08:25 AM
Until the running game gets going (the big reason for poor redzone play) i would love to see Tebow come in and finish off drives when goal to go. Even if he hands off 4 times, just to be consistent and give the option of some run/throw options. I'm kinda against using him on say only on gimmicks cause it will be obvious. Tebow should be able to hand off as well as Orton, and flick a ball to an open TE just as well... But can also get in with legs a hell of alot better if need be. .....Just until we find a running game. its a long season.

bendog
09-27-2010, 09:35 AM
If he can't play guard, it's pretty irrelevant.

broncosteven
09-27-2010, 09:45 AM
Tebow demoted to third qb?

Just said on the post game...

It used to be that there was a guy who posted active rosters right before game time but if I knew Tebow was unavailable I wouldn't have started the thread.

Beantown Bronco
09-27-2010, 10:08 AM
I heard that McD did call for him to go in the game on one of those short yardage plays, but he never his name called. Something about the volume on his Ipod being turned up too loud. Oh well. Maybe next week.

cmhargrove
09-27-2010, 12:35 PM
The short yardage play I would like to see?

Tebow in the shotgun running the veer option. Spread the defense ouut and let him make a play in open space.

Another great series would be a triple option play (like the Flexbone). It throws a new wrinkle in there for other defenses to account for, and it's something Orton just couldn't pull off.

bendog
09-27-2010, 01:11 PM
So you want Denver to carry 3 active qbs, or you want to chance Orton going down in the first half of a game that Den has a chance of winning, and have tebow have to take every snap, including 3rd and more than 3 for the rest of the game?

TailgateNut
09-27-2010, 01:15 PM
I think Tebow should have been usd to hydrate the team, they looked parched, and maybe he could have said a few hail mary's or some **** like that.

Or he could set up a stand outsid ethe stadium to sell bibles and jerseys.

Beantown Bronco
09-27-2010, 01:18 PM
So you want Denver to carry 3 active qbs, or you want to chance Orton going down in the first half of a game that Den has a chance of winning, and have tebow have to take every snap, including 3rd and more than 3 for the rest of the game?

No worries. If Tebow was in there, they'd never face a 3rd and more than 3.

:)

TailgateNut
09-27-2010, 01:21 PM
No worries. If Tebow was in there, they'd never face a 3rd and more than 3.

:)


Of course not. He'd throw an interception on second down.

Sassy
09-27-2010, 03:22 PM
i think tebow should have been usd to hydrate the team, they looked parched, and maybe he could have said a few hail mary's or some **** like that.

Or he could set up a stand outsid ethe stadium to sell bibles and jerseys.

lol

epicSocialism4tw
09-27-2010, 03:30 PM
I think Tebow should have been usd to hydrate the team, they looked parched, and maybe he could have said a few hail mary's or some **** like that.

Or he could set up a stand outsid ethe stadium to sell bibles and jerseys.

Wow.

Lame anti-christian "humor" from TailgateNutjob.

chawknz
09-27-2010, 04:25 PM
Or he could set up a stand outsid ethe stadium to sell bibles and jerseys.

No need to. That gang that hangs at the bridge between the stadium and the light rail are still out in full force.

WolfpackGuy
09-27-2010, 04:33 PM
Does he have to be listed as a QB?

Just put him in as a wideout.

Hell, list Moreno as 3rd string QB.

Last week he proved he can throw much better than he can run.

TailgateNut
09-27-2010, 05:54 PM
Wow.

Lame anti-christian "humor" from TailgateNutjob.


Just can't take a joke, can ya?

I actually hope that someday we'll see the value in picking the wonderboy!

cmhargrove
09-27-2010, 06:11 PM
So you want Denver to carry 3 active qbs, or you want to chance Orton going down in the first half of a game that Den has a chance of winning, and have tebow have to take every snap, including 3rd and more than 3 for the rest of the game?

You do understand that someday Tebow will be our starting Qb, right? It may take a few years or an Orton injury, but it will happen (unless McD gets fired first).

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
09-27-2010, 07:02 PM
The Tebow paradox. In order to put him in, you have to replace the best offensive player, and leader of this team. Which will never go well.

what if you merged tebow and orton into one being and call him teborton

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
09-27-2010, 07:09 PM
I think Tebow should have been usd to hydrate the team, they looked parched, and maybe he could have said a few hail mary's or some **** like that.

Or he could set up a stand outsid ethe stadium to sell bibles and jerseys.

umm Tebow 3:16 jerseys buy em because Tim Tebow says so . maybe drink a few cans of beer oh wait im sorry thats stone cold Steve Austins gimmick . im happy cause we found at least our potential future qb perhaps hall of fame. eh if it dont work out he can do missionary work for bowlen

The Moops
10-01-2010, 07:35 PM
I think it's ridiculous NOT to use him . . . we're 1-2 . . . we can't score from the 1-yard line.

Hmmmm, who do we have that's good on short yardage???


TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!

Quoydogs
10-01-2010, 07:40 PM
Tebow may be the best healty R.B. we have right now.

Rock Chalk
10-01-2010, 08:25 PM
I think it's ridiculous NOT to use him . . . we're 1-2 . . . we can't score from the 1-yard line.

Hmmmm, who do we have that's good on short yardage???


TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!

You have proof of this? I mean, what he did in College is irrelevant. His skills in the NFL have yet to be proven, we actually do not know if he is any damn good.

His two rushes for 2 yards do not inspire a lot of confidence that he can you know, actually do anything worth a **** in the NFL.

Dedhed
10-01-2010, 08:30 PM
I think we'll see Tebow sooner than later if the offense has another red zone performance or two similar to last week.

Quoydogs
10-01-2010, 08:32 PM
You have proof of this? I mean, what he did in College is irrelevant. His skills in the NFL have yet to be proven, we actually do not know if he is any damn good.

His two rushes for 2 yards do not inspire a lot of confidence that he can you know, actually do anything worth a **** in the NFL.

He looked pretty damn good running it in for a TD in Preseason. I'm not sayin' put him in every play but when you look at him compared to Orton in the red zone I see it like this.

Orton treats the red zone as same as the 50 yard line. If it gets there it gets there. If not we will have another chance


Timmy see the end zone has to get it in the end zone. It's like a drug or something.

Rock Chalk
10-01-2010, 08:33 PM
I think we'll see Tebow sooner than later if the offense has another red zone performance or two similar to last week.

I think we wont see Tebow in goal line situations at all this year.

McDaniels I am certain, will not do it. He has already gone on record saying its ridiculous whcih means that something has been seen in camp that it is either too risky to put the future of the franchise in such a situation especially since he already got hurt playing his reckless style OR he hasn't been effective doing it in practice.

Either way, I highly doubt we see Tebow much this year.

NFLBRONCO
10-01-2010, 09:41 PM
I expect to see Tebow era after the bye if we don't beat one of these teams Tenn Balt NYJ

TheReverend
10-01-2010, 10:23 PM
For the record, this... is how it begins.

broncocalijohn
10-01-2010, 10:46 PM
You have proof of this? I mean, what he did in College is irrelevant. His skills in the NFL have yet to be proven, we actually do not know if he is any damn good.

His two rushes for 2 yards do not inspire a lot of confidence that he can you know, actually do anything worth a **** in the NFL.


Are you high? We draft college players on what they did in college and what they can do in the pros. He was drafted based on his all around athletism which includes running in for a TD.I expect to see Tebow era after the bye if we don't beat one of these teams Tenn Balt NYJ

Not at QB unless Orton falls completely flat which he hasnt done in 3 consecutive games. So far, he has done a pretty damn good job.

orange 4 life
10-01-2010, 10:46 PM
So ever since the dude was drafted I read all these fluff pieces and heard about how dangerous he was going to be in the redzone and on short yardage. The whole thing about his run/pass option and how he destroyed teams with his jump pass in college etc...

Should we expect to see the guy at all this year?

Thoughts?

Probably won't see much of him for at least the next TWO years. Could be more. Orton got an extra 9 million next season for a reason and he's earning it.

We took a flyer on Tebow, we sold some jerseys, and he MAY end up being a player down the road but right now he's just a much talked about backup.
And his jerseys are already being sold for 25% off at many retailers.
Meanwhile those same places are bringing in all the Orton jerseys they can get.

Sure our red zone offense was awful last week and of course ALL blame can't be removed from Orton but clearly the lion's share is not his fault.
Bottom line is we have a heck of a qb right now and getting Tebow in the game is clearly very low on our coaches totem pole.

Like I've said before it's nothing against the kid as much as it is a vote of confidence for Orton.
The Colts loss stung but instead of harping on the negatives I'm looking at the positives which are simple IMHO. Even with TWO td's taken by the refs, losing the turnover battle, AND the disastrous red zone trips we were still only down 20 to 13 late in the 4th with a chance to tie.

This is a good team and we should expect to win 4 or 5 of the next 6 games.
Gotta beat the Titans or the Ravens but after that we should win our next 4 handily. We'll see what happens but I'm excited about this team.

orange 4 life
10-01-2010, 10:49 PM
Are you high? We draft college players on what they did in college and what they can do in the pros. He was drafted based on his all around athletism which includes running in for a TD.

Of course you draft based on what the kids did in college but I think Adam's point is simply that what Tebow did in college doesn't translate to the NFL game.
Yes he's a character guy with a lot of natural ability but it remains to be seen if he can play the qb position at this level.

And fortunately right now it doesn't matter given Orton's outstanding play.

WolfpackGuy
10-01-2010, 10:54 PM
If you trade a 2, a 3, and a 4 to get him, figure out a way to use him!

Simple as that.

Broncos_OTM
10-02-2010, 06:21 AM
Just can't take a joke, can ya?

I actually hope that someday we'll see the value in picking the wonderboy!

There is a differance between Blasphemy and humor... just sayin

dsmoot
10-02-2010, 08:35 AM
You have proof of this? I mean, what he did in College is irrelevant. His skills in the NFL have yet to be proven, we actually do not know if he is any damn good.

His two rushes for 2 yards do not inspire a lot of confidence that he can you know, actually do anything worth a **** in the NFL.

His two rushes fall right in line with the rest of the running backs .... no conclusions can be drawn.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
10-02-2010, 08:59 AM
I honestly thought we would see him on short yardage and goalline, and am very surprised that we haven't. I know what Josh said, and I can appreciate that, but... I guess I just don't understand why.

I mean, if you're worried it won't work... don't you at least give it a shot? Don't you at least try it out? I'm not even talking about just straight running him up the middle. I'm talking about rollouts, jump passes and the like.

I truly believe that he's the ultimate change of pace, and could be the ultimate weapon used just in special short-yardage packages. I don't understand why we don't use him.

Denver Bronco56
10-02-2010, 09:30 AM
I thnk the redzone issues need to be addressed and I'm not saying thats tebow...but again he is a physical speciman and would obviously add a dynamic that could open up some things that could only help the issues. I fully trust josh with the QB's if you see his track record no reason not to...but tebow could definetly help somehow to even just throw the D off

Bronco Yoda
10-03-2010, 01:07 AM
Tebow may be the best healty R.B. we have right now.

The sad thing is.... you might be right. 8')

broncosteven
10-17-2010, 06:19 PM
Someone at Dove Valley must have read this thread...

It was nice to see Tebow and Royal spark the run game.

broncocalijohn
10-18-2010, 12:20 AM
Ive already mentioned it in another thread and last week but putting Tebow in on this goal line stances or 3rd and two in some cases would spread the defense out as they wouldnt know if he is handing it off, running it himself or passing it. We know Orton isnt running it and I am sure Tebow is capable of handing a ball off to a running back.

2 out of 3 options were put to use. Next week, let the boy throw a few times too.

OBF1
10-18-2010, 12:28 AM
All hail the next coming of greatness that is known as Tebow.