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The MVPlaya
09-22-2010, 06:29 PM
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Rumour – Cowboys on the verge of firing Wade Phillips

Written by Kevin Lee
on September 22, 2010

UPDATE – 2pm EST – Jon Gruden has a clause in his MNF contract that won’t allow him to leave his analyst position to take the Cowboys HC position if Phillips was fired. As well, Tony Dungee has gone on record as saying he won’t coach this year.

It shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone who follows the NFL that Dallas Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips is on a short leash. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has gone on the record saying that the 0-2 start is “quite a setback” for the organization.

Word now comes from two great sources close to the organization that Jones is gauging interest from a few former NFL head coaches currently working on TV networks. CBS in-studio analyst Bill Cowher is Jones number one choice to replace Phillips. His second choice is NFL Network/Fox analyst Brian Billick. Both Cowher and Billick have Super Bowl rings, something Jones really wants to have when it comes to who will be leading his struggling team.

Many feel the players have tuned out Phillips and last Friday was a clear example of how this situation continues to snowball. Phillips got into details on Monday about Friday’s practice. “Do I think it could be better? Sure,” Phillips said. “Do I think we had a bad practice Friday? Yes, we told them that in the meeting. We went back over it and said, ‘Hey, we didn’t practice well enough.’” How does the same thing occur that has happened over the past two years under Phillips watch? Enough is enough and now is the time for Jones to pull the plug on him. It’s plain to see that the team has no identity and have tuned out Phillips.

I am told that if the Cowboys lose to the Houston Texans on Sunday that Jones won’t hesitate in firing Phillips. Two other possible candidates that have surfaced are Marty Schottenheimer and Steve Mariucci. Schottenheimer who last patrolled the sidelines for San Diego back in 2006-07, was fired by the Chargers in February of 2007. His 5-13 playoff record is definitely not appealing. While Mariucci has a 3-4 playoff record, he hasn’t coached since the 2005 season after a three year stint in Detroit.

Regardless, of what happens in Houston this Sunday, Jones needs to fire Phillips if he hopes to have his team in the playoffs come January. I for one truly believe one of the 4 names I have mentioned will be wearing that Star on their hat come early next week.

More to come as the week unfolds. I can be contacted at kevinlee@prosportsblogging.com anytime.

Kevin

bowtown
09-22-2010, 06:34 PM
I doubt this is true right now... but give it a few weeks. He won't last the season.

WolfpackGuy
09-22-2010, 06:35 PM
Jason Garrett is the one they should fire.

bowtown
09-22-2010, 06:37 PM
And while we're on it. Coughlin may make it through the season, but he won't be in NY next year.

Dukes
09-22-2010, 06:38 PM
They should have gotten Shanny while they had the chance.

Broncobiv
09-22-2010, 06:40 PM
And while we're on it. Coughlin may make it through the season, but he won't be in NY next year.

Mid-season trade: Wade Phillips for Tom Coughlin

Chris
09-22-2010, 06:41 PM
Mid-season trade: Wade Phillips for Tom Coughlin

The Lord of No Rings says no.

Broncobiv
09-22-2010, 06:45 PM
The Lord of No Rings says no.

Where does San Diego fit in?

baja
09-22-2010, 06:46 PM
I said Wade was going to be fired during the Washington game. No way the quick triggered Jones takes a wait and see on this.

gtown
09-22-2010, 06:47 PM
Jason Garrett is the one they should fire.

Their play calling has definitely been questionable.

baja
09-22-2010, 06:50 PM
They should have gotten Shanny while they had the chance.

I would bet almost anything they tried and Shanny turned them down.

Chris
09-22-2010, 06:52 PM
Where does San Diego fit in?

I was yakking with you.

Tombstone RJ
09-22-2010, 06:53 PM
I think any coach who agrees to replace Phillips should understand that he is not the final say when it comes to the team. In other words, Jerra Jones can blame himself for all the HC's he's gone though since Jimma Johnson left because the players know they have to ultimately answer to Jerra.

If I was Jerra, I'd hire Marty Schottenheimer in a NY minute. He's a great coach to turn a team around. No way would I hire Billick (I think the Ravens won the SB in spite of his lousy coaching, and he never could produce a decent offense) and there's no way Bill Cowher works for a meddling owner like Jerra. Of all the coaches, Cowher is probably the best, but I just don't see him taking over a Dallas team that answers only to Jerra. The Cowboys are like the light version of the faiders. The owner isn't crazy, but he holds everyone's balls in the palm of his hand....

ColoradoDarin
09-22-2010, 06:55 PM
I sure believe it, I mean they totally got Tony Dungy's name right....

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-22-2010, 07:00 PM
No one here in the Dallas media, especially those that cover the Cowboys on a daily basis, has any idea who Kevin Lee is. No one. There is no way in hell that he has 2 "sources" corroborating this story. And to make it worse, a competing radio station here in town has taken this and run with it. They even went so far as to have Lee on their airwaves. They're actually the Cowboys flagship station and are rolling with this Nick Athan-like bull****. It's ****ing laughable. There are so many things wrong with his story and so many facts being ignored, it's ridiculous.

The MVPlaya
09-22-2010, 07:01 PM
Poster over at Bucs Board


So while I was driving around during work earlier, I was listening to 105.3 The Ticket (Dallas radio). And they had a guy from ProSportsBlogging who has a story today saying that by Monday, Wade Phillips will be fired. He said he has a number of respectable sources and the radio hosts agreed (and were surprised) that they were credible sources, but they wouldn't say who out of respect for those sources.

And they also reported that Bill Cowher or Brian Billick may replace Phillips.

This is all coming from ProSportsBlogging and they spent 30 minutes talking about PSB and their credibility and they ARE credible, but just not very well known nationally. They have full-season credentials with NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB teams and are respected amongst all the teams/leagues. Last year, they broke a big trade in the NHL before anyone else did.

Not saying it's going to happen, but it's out there. And about 1 hour after they were done interviewing Kevin Lee (who broke the story), they had a local media member saying that he believes ProSportsBlogging b/c he's been noticing some fishy stuf going around Valley Ranch.

This will either make or break ProSportsBlogging.

Tombstone RJ
09-22-2010, 07:05 PM
I bet Jerra is the source behind PSB's story. Seriously, think about it. How do you light a fire underneath your coache's ass, put a rumor out there that he's gonna be fired...

baja
09-22-2010, 07:12 PM
I bet Jerra is the source behind PSB's story. Seriously, think about it. How do you light a fire underneath your coache's ass, put a rumor out there that he's gonna be fired...

Wade is what he is, a fire will not change that.

He's a nice guy trying to coach a collection of spoiled millionaire brats glommed together by the egomaniac Jerry Jones.

Tombstone RJ
09-22-2010, 07:38 PM
Wade is what he is, a fire will not change that.

He's a nice guy trying to coach a collection of spoiled millionaire brats glommed together by the egomaniac Jerry Jones.

Yah, maybe you're right. Heck, Wade is probably the one who put the rumor out there that he's gonna be fired. This is Wades passive aggressive way of telling Jerra to jump off a cliff...

Hilarious!

Hamrob
09-22-2010, 07:46 PM
The Cowboys are loaded with talent...but, it's no small feat to step into the head coaching role in the midst of a season. You'd be going in with none of your own coaches etc. That would mean all of the assistant coaches would be dead men walking...how well would that work? I'm thinking Shotz is the best candidate. He's tough, motivational and could handle the situtation with Jones.

When's their bye week...that would be the ideal time.

baja
09-22-2010, 07:49 PM
The Cowboys are loaded with talent...but, it's no small feat to step into the head coaching role in the midst of a season. You'd be going in with none of your own coaches etc. That would mean all of the assistant coaches would be dead men walking...how well would that work? I'm thinking Shotz is the best candidate. He's tough, motivational and could handle the situtation with Jones.

When's their bye week...that would be the ideal time.

The head coach won't change, it'll still be Jerry Jones.

oubronco
09-22-2010, 07:49 PM
Romo is the one who should be fired

baja
09-22-2010, 07:51 PM
Romo is the one who should be fired

Romo doesn't have what John Elway did have and I hope Kyle Orton has found and that's the ability to elevate your game when the game is on the line in the 4th quarter.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-22-2010, 07:52 PM
Wait, so someone thinks that Jerry Jones contacted this nobody, Kevin Lee, and planted the story with him? Funny.

As for the Fan, they don't have people at Valley Ranch. They're not even journalists. The closest they come to what goes down each day at VR is when they send an engineer to plug in for the press conferences. The players don't know who they are. The coaches don't know who they are. Believe me, if there is more than one source coming out with something like this, then a blogger like Kevin Lee would be the absolute last person to hear about it. Hasn't it struck anyone as odd that no other outlet in DFW or the nation, for that matter, has picked up on this? No local papers. Not the local news. None of the guys from ESPN, Fox, Yahoo, SI, etc? One guy has it? And that guy is Kevin Lee?

Think about this - why would Jerry fire Wade, his head coach AND defensive coordinator, to bring in a new guy after 3 weeks? What, exactly, is that going to solve? A guy like Cowher or Gruden is going to want to have full say over their schemes, their staff, their coaches, their players. They'd be months behind in preparation and something like that would be completely detrimental to the team.

cutthemdown
09-22-2010, 08:27 PM
Jason Garrett is the one they should fire.

Yep. Firing Wade without Garrett is a joke. That would be like catching your best friend and your woman going at it. Then you divorce girl but keep the friend.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Yep. Firing Wade without Garrett is a joke. That would be like catching your best friend and your woman going at it. Then you divorce girl but keep the friend.

Exactly. If anything, Wade is doing most of his job correctly by getting that defense in order. But for as much pressure as they get, I'd expect a few more turnovers. To not force a pick from Cutler behind that o-line is damn near impossible.

Garrett, though - that dude calls a terrible game.

baja
09-22-2010, 08:43 PM
Jerry Jones wants more of this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGPbvOirz8I

Man-Goblin
09-22-2010, 08:58 PM
They have a bye week and if they lose to the Texans it's the right move. Of course, they'll be writing of the season if they bring in someone from the outside.

Should have fired Wade before he was hired.

Br0nc0Buster
09-22-2010, 09:01 PM
They have a bye week and if they lose to the Texans it's the right move. Of course, they'll be writing of the season if they bring in someone from the outside.

Should have fired Wade before he was hired.

how is that possible?

Man-Goblin
09-22-2010, 09:10 PM
how is that possible?

Never hiring him. Luckily they did, though, because the guy is a hell of a defensive coordinator, and the Chargers had him. But then, he would have probably been their HC after they fired Marty and that would have been worse than Norv (IMO), so that wouldn't have sucked.

uplink
09-22-2010, 10:57 PM
They should have gotten Shanny while they had the chance.

Yeah, bet Jerry is pained by that. The Cowboys are the most visible NFL team so a lot of guys will want to coach them, don't be surprised. I'd pass on Billick, Marty and Bill would be great, Steve would be okay if he wants a more offensive minded coach.

uplink
09-22-2010, 10:58 PM
Lets hope Wade doesn't end up back in San Diego as D-coordinator. He is one of the best.

strafen
09-22-2010, 11:12 PM
The Cowboys are loaded with talent...but, it's no small feat to step into the head coaching role in the midst of a season. You'd be going in with none of your own coaches etc. That would mean all of the assistant coaches would be dead men walking...how well would that work? I'm thinking Shotz is the best candidate. He's tough, motivational and could handle the situtation with Jones.

When's their bye week...that would be the ideal time.Marty has always gotten the best of what he's got to work with, which it's never been much.
He should do well in Dallas.
Wade is a coach, but he's never been an authority figure, sort of speak.
His demeanor says it all. Nice guy, great defensive coordinator, just not head coach material...

Durango
09-22-2010, 11:49 PM
I would bet almost anything they tried and Shanny turned them down.

I think you're right on the money. I would imagine Shanny wanted total control and that ended the conversation right there.

baja
09-23-2010, 12:05 AM
I think you're right on the money. I would imagine Shanny wanted total control and that ended the conversation right there.

I don't know about the total control part. I doubt he has total control in Washington. I think Bruce Allan is a legitimate GM there.

I think what was important to Shanny was a owner that would promise to let him & the GM run the team. I think Snyder agreed to that and Jones never would.

Shanny will kick ass if that is the way it is in Washington.

Durango
09-23-2010, 12:18 AM
I don't know about the total control part. I doubt he has total control in Washington. I think Bruce Allan is a legitimate GM there.

I think what was important to Shanny was a owner that would promise to let him & the GM run the team. I think Snyder agreed to that and Jones never would.

Shanny will kick ass if that is the way it is in Washington.

Good point. If Shanahan really does work in tandem with a legit GM, he will remake Washington into a power franchise again.

baja
09-23-2010, 12:34 AM
Good point. If Shanahan really does work in tandem with a legit GM, he will remake Washington into a power franchise again.

And 2/3 of the posters here will say, "We never should have fired Shanny" but they will be wrong. The circumstances that necessitated Shanny's departure will be be the catalyst that propels him to new heights. He needed help in Denver and he learned that with his year off IMO.

broncocalijohn
09-23-2010, 01:07 AM
Jason Garrett is the one they should fire.

remember when this guy was "The coach of the Future" for Dallas or any other team. How they fall from the graces of the ranks.

Marty would be perfect as he can get them to win in the regular season and then do what almost every Dallas team has done since the SB years and that is lose in the playoffs. What is it, one win since they got robbed in SF on the non call Rice fumble?

cmhargrove
09-23-2010, 06:39 AM
Jerry wants playoffs this year, and you just won't do that with an outside coaching change. He has to live with Phillips this year if he has any brains at all. Only fire him if you are missing the playoffs and want to give another assistant that shot at "interim" coach to see what he has.

The thought that Cowher would jump in mid-season just sounds ridiculous. I don't know which "big name" coach would want to come into a season in that sort of circumstance. Cowher could have any HC job for any team he chooses after the season is done, and then be able to put together his staff, his draft, his camps, etc..

Jerry Jones didn't stockpile O-line talent in the offseason when he had the chance, now he's paying for it.

Rock Chalk
09-23-2010, 06:43 AM
Romo is the one who should be fired

Romo isn't the problem with Dallas right now. Its their incredibly poor offensive line, lack of any kind of run support and a defense that is highly suspect.

Romo is probably the lone bright spot (at this current time, give it a week, he may **** **** up) on that team.

Grumps
09-23-2010, 06:50 AM
Romo isn't the problem with Dallas right now. Its their incredibly poor offensive line, lack of any kind of run support and a defense that is highly suspect.

Romo is probably the lone bright spot (at this current time, give it a week, he may **** **** up) on that team.

And playcalling has been....interesting. From what I have seen at least.

missingnumber7
09-23-2010, 08:11 AM
Found a picture of wade.

bronco militia
09-23-2010, 08:11 AM
Tony NoShow is a coach killer

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-23-2010, 08:34 AM
So now it's been updated with Jimmy Johnson's name thrown in. If that doesn't tell you it's bull****, then I don't know what does.

Jimmy is getting paid to do a couple days worth of TV a week, tan and fish. Why the hell would he leave that to go back to coaching? He has nothing left to prove in the NFL. His life is great right now.

Missouribronc
09-23-2010, 09:02 AM
If they want to be legit, they should start with spell check. They could even download Firefox. It has spellcheck built in. Of course, that would not catch spelling a Hall of Fame Coach's name wrong, but...

epicSocialism4tw
09-23-2010, 09:28 AM
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Mountain Bronco
09-23-2010, 11:03 AM
It would be so hard to change head coaches mid season and actually accomplish anything. It would be an entire sytem change or a head coach not coaching his system. It takes years to install a system even with entire months of OTA's mini camps, training camps etc... mid season would be a disaster. If they do fire Wade, it means a lost season IMO which isn't the smartest thing with that much talent.

NUB
09-23-2010, 11:49 PM
These rumors always come around in Texas every year but I think this one is absolutely possible if the Cowboys go 0-3.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-24-2010, 06:36 AM
As Peter King noted - they won't fire the kicker but they'll fire the coach?

Bronco Yoda
09-24-2010, 11:24 AM
I can't believe stretch-face would throw away the season so early.

Steve Sewell
09-24-2010, 11:28 AM
Lets hope Wade doesn't end up back in San Diego as D-coordinator. He is one of the best.

Let's hope Wade ends up in Denver :yayaya:

Old Dude
09-24-2010, 02:53 PM
I think any coach who agrees to replace Phillips should understand that he is not the final say when it comes to the team. In other words, Jerra Jones can blame himself for all the HC's he's gone though since Jimma Johnson left because the players know they have to ultimately answer to Jerra.

If I was Jerra, I'd hire Marty Schottenheimer in a NY minute. He's a great coach to turn a team around. No way would I hire Billick (I think the Ravens won the SB in spite of his lousy coaching, and he never could produce a decent offense) and there's no way Bill Cowher works for a meddling owner like Jerra. Of all the coaches, Cowher is probably the best, but I just don't see him taking over a Dallas team that answers only to Jerra. The Cowboys are like the light version of the faiders. The owner isn't crazy, but he holds everyone's balls in the palm of his hand....

If we could still give out rep, I'd put a bunch on this post.

Kaylore
09-24-2010, 03:23 PM
Let's hope Wade ends up in Denver :yayaya:

I thought about this. While he would be a good coordinator, I think McD likes Wink and I also think there is probably still sore feelings between he and Bowlen.