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The MVPlaya
09-20-2010, 01:02 AM
Tied with Matt Schaub with 11.

Unless Brees gets 8+ 20+ yard completions tomorrow (possible), Orton is in 1st for another week.

Discuss.

Dr. Broncenstein
09-20-2010, 01:08 AM
Noodle armed skank swording whiskey pounding winner. Biatches.

Cito Pelon
09-20-2010, 02:30 AM
The O is geared to look long, Orton is looking pretty good dropping it in and firing it when necessary. The pass pro is a big deal.

Jay3
09-20-2010, 06:13 AM
First for yesterday, or cumulative?

Conklin
09-20-2010, 06:55 AM
First for yesterday, or cumulative?

cumulative...he was first after week 1

rmsanger
09-20-2010, 07:28 AM
Neckbeard Nation.. Woot Woot

Rabb
09-20-2010, 07:35 AM
I don't see how people still manage to dislike Orton (not in this thread so far), the guy has responded to every challenge presented to him this year and looks fantastic through 2 games.

The game that will be telling to me with our offense will be the Ravens. Our running game will be a major issue, and if they can keep giving Orton time he can pick their secondary apart. I am hoping it's not a repeat of last year.

If we can get even a pedestrian running threat going (I think we are headed there), whoa baby.

Thanks Kyle!

fontaine
09-20-2010, 07:51 AM
I don't see how people still manage to dislike Orton (not in this thread so far), the guy has responded to every challenge presented to him this year and looks fantastic through 2 games.

The game that will be telling to me with our offense will be the Ravens. Our running game will be a major issue, and if they can keep giving Orton time he can pick their secondary apart. I am hoping it's not a repeat of last year.

If we can get even a pedestrian running threat going (I think we are headed there), whoa baby.

Thanks Kyle!

This guy has learned the offense so well in just 18 games compared to Cutler and even worse still Plummer who were here years and still making rookie type mistakes.

jhns
09-20-2010, 07:56 AM
This guy has learned the offense so well in just 18 games compared to Cutler and even worse still Plummer who were here years and still making rookie type mistakes.

Cutler was a rookie, or close to.... Have you watched him this season? He has 1/20th the help that Orton has and still looks better.

Orton does look much better this season though. I just would like to see him do it over the course of a season. Have 9-10 good games and he can change my opinion of him. He has good games every season. The problem has been consistency.

Rabb
09-20-2010, 07:59 AM
This guy has learned the offense so well in just 18 games compared to Cutler and even worse still Plummer who were here years and still making rookie type mistakes.

exactly

even his play calling at the line is improved, him seeing what the defense was giving him on the Buck TD was outstanding

BroncoInferno
09-20-2010, 08:23 AM
Cutler was a rookie, or close to.... Have you watched him this season? He has 1/20th the help that Orton has and still looks better..

How the hell do you figure Cutler has "1/20 the help that Orton has"? Yesterday, we started three guys on the OL who were starting for the 2nd time in their NFL careers....two rookies and an undrafted dude who'd already been released by one team. Our TEs are garbage as receivers. Our running game was garbage (due to blocking IMO). Two of our top receivers are career journeyman (Gaffney is on his 3rd team, Lloyd on his 4th or 5th). The defense looked bad and got lucky with a couple of turnovers. The STs have been bad. Orton has pretty much carried this team so far. I'll admit Cutler looks better this season, but Orton has played at least as well so far this season.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-20-2010, 08:37 AM
How the hell do you figure Cutler has "1/20 the help that Orton has"? Yesterday, we started three guys on the OL who were starting for the 2nd time in their NFL careers....two rookies and an undrafted dude who'd already been released by one team. Our TEs are garbage as receivers. Our running game was garbage (due to blocking IMO). Two of our top receivers are career journeyman (Gaffney is on his 3rd team, Lloyd on his 4th or 5th). The defense looked bad and got lucky with a couple of turnovers. The STs have been bad. Orton has pretty much carried this team so far. I'll admit Cutler looks better this season, but Orton has played at least as well so far this season.

Don't you understand? All those rookies and castoffs give Orton SO much more help than a team that Cutler's had sort of built around his talents.

Wake up. Sheesh.

jhns
09-20-2010, 08:40 AM
Don't you understand? All those rookies and castoffs give Orton SO much more help than a team that Cutler's had sort of built around his talents.

Wake up. Sheesh.

LOL

Now the Bears have as good of receivers and a better o line than this team? Wow, you guys hate our players. I do agree that they have a better defense. I wasn't talking about the entire team. I was talking about the guys that are on the field at the same time as the QB. The defense can make the team look good, not the QB.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-20-2010, 08:41 AM
Rookies and castoffs, jizz. Rookies and castoffs.

You're claiming that Cutler has 1/20th of the help that Orton has. It's an absolutely preposterous claim.

Rabb
09-20-2010, 08:43 AM
who gives a **** one way or another what Cutler has anyhow, he's not a Bronco and not a divisional foe

good luck to him, move on already...it has nothing to do with this team

BroncoInferno
09-20-2010, 08:48 AM
LOL

Now the Bears have as good of receivers and a better o line than this team? Wow, you guys hate our players. I do agree that they have a better defense. I wasn't talking about the entire team. I was talking about the guys that are on the field at the same time as the QB. The defense can make the team look good, not the QB.

Why don't you counter the claim. Do you think our OL situation has been ideal the first two game? Two rookies starting (Walton and Beadles). One castoff who has never started (Daniels). Another guy better suited to backup (Hochstein). And our All-Pro LT is operating at probably 70% right now. The TEs are useless in the passing game. The running game has stunk because of the blocking. I do like our WRs, but two of the guys were journeyman who have played their best career football with Orton (Gaffney and Lloyd). Explain how Orton's help is so superior to Cutler's so far? I agree that down road it will be much better...once the OL gets healthy and the rookies get experience, and as Bey Bey continues to emerge. But RIGHT NOW, the situations are pretty comparable.

Eldorado
09-20-2010, 09:08 AM
BAM! pwnt.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-20-2010, 09:12 AM
Cutler was a rookie, or close to.... Have you watched him this season? He has 1/20th the help that Orton has and still looks better.

Orton does look much better this season though. I just would like to see him do it over the course of a season. Have 9-10 good games and he can change my opinion of him. He has good games every season. The problem has been consistency.

He looks better? Really? Better? They are both playing great football right now, I'd just leave it at that. If you told me Peyton Manning was playing for the Broncos yesterday I would have believed it; Orton played a fantastic game. And I don't know that he has "1/20th" of the help. We have zero running game and our starting offensive line yesterday consisted of an aging backup, two rookies (one playing completely out of position) and a guy starting his second NFL game.

gyldenlove
09-20-2010, 09:15 AM
Here is a list of QBs who have thrown for fewer yards than Neckbeard this year:

Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Drew Brees*, Aaron Rodgers, Donovan Mcnabb, Carson Palmer, Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. * Brees has only played 1 game but will need a strong game tonight to match Orton (356 yards to beat Orton).

Chris
09-20-2010, 09:16 AM
Here's a weird question... what do we do with Tim Tebow? Kyle's only just turned 28.

broncocalijohn
09-20-2010, 09:17 AM
Cutler was a rookie, or close to.... Have you watched him this season? He has 1/20th the help that Orton has and still looks better.

Orton does look much better this season though. I just would like to see him do it over the course of a season. Have 9-10 good games and he can change my opinion of him. He has good games every season. The problem has been consistency.

You kiss Cutler's ass and he has done it twice this season (ok, only 2 games). Cutler has screwed up more times than Orton has so why call out Orton when Cutler has had consistency issues over the whole year and not just game to game. Your still hating, we know it. Just embrace Orton and the Broncos and your heart will be filled with much love. :peace:

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-20-2010, 09:21 AM
You kiss Cutler's ass and he has done it twice this season (ok, only 2 games). Cutler has screwed up more times than Orton has so why call out Orton when Cutler has had consistency issues over the whole year and not just game to game. Your still hating, we know it. Just embrace Orton and the Broncos and your heart will be filled with much love. :peace:

He'd have to admit he was wrong, which he can't do (even when everyone else already knows it).

Steve Sewell
09-20-2010, 09:22 AM
If people would simply STOP bringing up Cutler in threads comparing to Orton, jhiz would go away forever.

I implore everyone to just let go of Cutler. He's hasn't physically been in Denver for going on a year and a half.

HAT
09-20-2010, 09:53 AM
If people would simply STOP bringing up Cutler in threads comparing to Orton, jhiz would go away forever.

I implore everyone to just let go of Cutler. He's hasn't physically been in Denver for going on a year and a half.

This....and it's opposite. Stop engaging with jhiz at all and the Cutler threads go away.

epicSocialism4tw
09-20-2010, 10:02 AM
Here's a weird question... what do we do with Tim Tebow? Kyle's only just turned 28.

You let Tebow grow, and shed Kyle when Tebow is ready.

Missouribronc
09-20-2010, 10:04 AM
You let Tebow grow, and shed Kyle when Tebow is ready.

Trade Kyle for a top-tier defensive player and two No. 1 draft picks.

Woot...drinking the koolaid!

Yesterday was fun.

BroncoInferno
09-20-2010, 10:12 AM
You let Tebow grow, and shed Kyle when Tebow is ready.

If Kyle continues to play the way he has so far this season, it will start to become hard to justify moving him out, particularly to the veterans on the team who are gaining confidence in him. The Chargers got kind of lucky back in 2005 when Brees suffered a serious shoulder injury. It gave them an excuse to move on to Rivers. It probably would have been a difficult sell to the veterans and fans otherwise. Of course, the switch WILL happen eventually, it is simply a question of how smoothly McD can make the transition.

When we do make the switch, hopefully Kyle plays well enough that we can get some nice compensation from some QB needy team.

Tombstone RJ
09-20-2010, 10:18 AM
If Kyle continues to play the way he has so far this season, it will start to become hard to justify moving him out, particularly to the veterans on the team who are gaining confidence in him. The Chargers got kind of lucky back in 2005 when Brees suffered a serious shoulder injury. It gave them an excuse to move on to Rivers. It probably would have been a difficult sell to the veterans and fans otherwise. Of course, the switch WILL happen eventually, it is simply a question of how smoothly McD can make the transition.

When we do make the switch, hopefully Kyle plays well enough that we can get some nice compensation from some QB needy team.

The good thing is there's no rush to inert Tebow. As long as Orton stays healthy and plays well, Tebow can watch and learn...

Naggle Nole
09-20-2010, 10:38 AM
Here's a weird question... what do we do with Tim Tebow? Kyle's only just turned 28.

This makes the contract extension through next year all the more genius
Next year, with health and a talent infusion on D, we could be poised to make a jump into the elite teams of the AFC
If Orton is the limiting factor, we will know it then
Seeing as how he managed a MUCH worse offense to the Super Bowl (with a much better D, I grant you), it should probably be argued that he has to prove that he can't do it rather than prove that he can

Bottom line, we are in win-win mode with the way he is playing
We will either:
A. Squeeze him for all he's got and give Tebow the Aaron Rodgers treatment, which might be better for his development anyway
B. Trade him for a nice bounty from a QB starved team, of which there is never a shortage in this league

BlaK-Argentina
09-20-2010, 10:45 AM
If Orton is the limiting factor, we will know it then


I highly doubt that. He's been THE offense so far. If he keeps this up I hope Tebow keeps his ass on the bench for a long, long time.

KevinJames
09-20-2010, 10:49 AM
More importantly hes also 3rd in 1st down %

broncocalijohn
09-20-2010, 10:51 AM
If people would simply STOP bringing up Cutler in threads comparing to Orton, jhiz would go away forever.

I implore everyone to just let go of Cutler. He's hasn't physically been in Denver for going on a year and a half.

Yes, but his puke has still the stench at every LoDo bar he entered.

broncocalijohn
09-20-2010, 10:53 AM
I highly doubt that. He's been THE offense so far. If he keeps this up I hope Tebow keeps his ass on the bench for a long, long time.

I wish McD would get him in on those goal line stances. Tebow in there makes the defense spread out looking for a handoff/pitch, a run or a pass. If we are going to hand off there, why not have Tebow in there as he has done that for many years and doesnt take a "pro" QB to hand the ball off.

Cito Pelon
09-20-2010, 11:02 AM
If Kyle continues to play the way he has so far this season, it will start to become hard to justify moving him out, particularly to the veterans on the team who are gaining confidence in him. The Chargers got kind of lucky back in 2005 when Brees suffered a serious shoulder injury. It gave them an excuse to move on to Rivers. It probably would have been a difficult sell to the veterans and fans otherwise. Of course, the switch WILL happen eventually, it is simply a question of how smoothly McD can make the transition.

When we do make the switch, hopefully Kyle plays well enough that we can get some nice compensation from some QB needy team.

I bet the vets love how Orton plays the game.

Popps
09-20-2010, 11:03 AM
Rev says he has a noodle arm and sucks on 3rd downs.

End of discussion.

Naggle Nole
09-20-2010, 11:04 AM
I highly doubt that. He's been THE offense so far. If he keeps this up I hope Tebow keeps his ass on the bench for a long, long time.

Don't get me wrong
I don't think he is a limiting factor
The fact that he can put up the numbers he has with no consistent running game is already giving him plenty of ammo
Glad to have him :thumbsup:

BlaK-Argentina
09-20-2010, 11:23 AM
Don't get me wrong
I don't think he is a limiting factor
The fact that he can put up the numbers he has with no consistent running game is already giving him plenty of ammo
Glad to have him :thumbsup:

I know, that's why I said it. Orton can run this offense at a very high level.
Though I'm sure after a couple of bad games people will be gladly ready to give up on him for Tebow's physical abilities. I'm just glad McD seems to be smarter than that.

I want Tebow to be the starting QB the day he proves to the coaches that he can run the offense as well as Kyle is doing this year. I don't think that's going to be anytime soon. (though I'm sure he'll get there in time)

Que
09-20-2010, 11:27 AM
Here's a weird question... what do we do with Tim Tebow? Kyle's only just turned 28.

Thing I worry about (kinda)"
In five years we will look back and think....

Kyle Orton = Drew Brees
Tim Tebow = Phillip Rivers

Thing that makes me wake up in the middle of the night:
Kyle Orton = Drew Brees
Tim Tebow = Ryan Leaf

55CrushEm
09-20-2010, 11:31 AM
Thing I worry about (kinda)"
In five years we will look back and think....

Kyle Orton = Drew Brees
Tim Tebow = Phillip Rivers

Thing that makes me wake up in the middle of the night:
Kyle Orton = Drew Brees
Tim Tebow = Ryan Leaf

I wouldn't worry about that. Ryan Leaf was an a s s h a t. Tebow is probably the hardest worker in the NFL.

Spider
09-20-2010, 11:36 AM
LOL

Now the Bears have as good of receivers and a better o line than this team? Wow, you guys hate our players. I do agree that they have a better defense. I wasn't talking about the entire team. I was talking about the guys that are on the field at the same time as the QB. The defense can make the team look good, not the QB.

I am sure i have said this before , but you are a retard

Dagmar
09-20-2010, 11:45 AM
Rev says he has a noodle arm and sucks on 3rd downs.

End of discussion.

Rev has NEVER been wrong in his life.

Que
09-20-2010, 11:57 AM
I wouldn't worry about that. Ryan Leaf was an a s s h a t. Tebow is probably the hardest worker in the NFL.

Ya, that's how I get back to sleep.

Here's the thing. If Orton continues on at this pace this season, a smart FO will sign him to an extension since he's basically a UFA at the end of next season on his current contract. That way he'll have some trade value instead of a Brees to N.O. UFA situation.