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Houshyamama
09-14-2010, 03:45 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjTS9sQUcUL5ENJxwrFEf2k5nYcB?slug=ap-femalereporter-portis

This woman is hired for her looks. This is obvious. I know the NFL expects its players to operate in a professional manner and with class... but come on. 53 big dudes in a room or on a field and some fine ass woman walks in... who is ONLY there because she has a fine ass... what do they expect? How is it realistic to expect humans to go against their primal instincts and just pretend for the sake of political correctness that she is there because of her talent and hard work? Are they just supposed to ignore her? I don't understand these PC fags.

And should women reporters be allowed in the locker room after the game? Isn't that just asking for trouble? Are male reporters allowed in to female locker rooms? Why not? Because it's retarded to do so.

Taco John
09-14-2010, 03:46 PM
Not if they're dressed like prostitutes.

Taco John
09-14-2010, 03:47 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Houshyamama
09-14-2010, 03:49 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Much simpler. A quality idea.

The MVPlaya
09-14-2010, 03:50 PM
Yeah why not? I mean quite obviously if you're throwing a female in there dressed like she looking for a ****, then she's going to harassed - it is what it is.

I mean, just as a guy shouldn't be wearing his swim trunks/underwear only into the locker room, the females shouldn't be dressing up like a model...unless she knows what she is walking into.

Jets situation is unfortunate and I completely dislike those type of girl/women. Why are you all dressed up skin tight and surprised GUYS in the locker room are excited? I MEAN REALLY?

Taco John
09-14-2010, 03:52 PM
Yeah why not? I mean quite obviously if you're throwing a female in there dressed like she looking for a ****, then she's going to harassed - it is what it is.

I mean, just as a guy shouldn't be wearing his swim trunks/underwear only into the locker room, the females shouldn't be dressing up like a model...unless she knows what she is walking into.

Jets situation is unfortunate and I completely dislike those type of girl/women. Why are you all dressed up skin tight and surprised GUYS in the locker room are excited? I MEAN REALLY?

Especially after they've spent the entire day on a testosterone building activity. Send me out to paint the fence and I come in horny when I'm done. Or hell, check the mail...

My poor wife.

The MVPlaya
09-14-2010, 03:55 PM
Especially after they've spent the entire day on a testosterone building activity. Send me out to paint the fence and I come in horny when I'm done. Or hell, check the mail...

My poor wife.

Exactly. They've spent hours slapping male asses, and had extremely physical encounters with many different men, and **** if they have to pile on for a fumble who the **** knows what else could happen.

Point is, if men are allowed so should women, but the women should be smart.

I don't see Lindsay Jones getting any harassment. :spit:

Boomhauer
09-14-2010, 03:55 PM
If it's a women's team, yes.

Ugly Duck
09-14-2010, 03:57 PM
Are male reporters allowed in to female locker rooms? Why not?

That would be sexist.

Taco John
09-14-2010, 03:57 PM
I don't see Lindsay Jones getting any harassment. :spit:


She hasn't been by my house after mail arrives, has she?

The MVPlaya
09-14-2010, 03:59 PM
She hasn't been by my house after mail arrives, has she?

... having orgies huh TJ?

http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/1124650/lol-o.gif

loborugger
09-14-2010, 04:00 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjTS9sQUcUL5ENJxwrFEf2k5nYcB?slug=ap-femalereporter-portis

This woman is hired for her looks. This is obvious. I know the NFL expects its players to operate in a professional manner and with class... but come on. 53 big dudes in a room or on a field and some fine ass woman walks in... who is ONLY there because she has a fine ass... what do they expect? How is it realistic to expect humans to go against their primal instincts and just pretend for the sake of political correctness that she is there because of her talent and hard work? Are they just supposed to ignore her? I don't understand these PC fags.

And should women reporters be allowed in the locker room after the game? Isn't that just asking for trouble? Are male reporters allowed in to female locker rooms? Why not? Because it's retarded to do so.

Equality is equality. And that is what modern society is all about.

The MVPlaya
09-14-2010, 04:02 PM
Equality is equality. And that is what modern society is all about.

THere are quite obvious double standards.

The point is, males don't give a **** if there are females coming in their locker room, we embarace it, encourage it, prefer it.

Females feel violated if men come in when their butt ass naked.

It is what it is.

TDmvp
09-14-2010, 04:02 PM
Not if they dress like Ines Sainz

http://urbansportstalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ines-sainz3.jpg

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=653&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=Ines+Sainz&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

WolfpackGuy
09-14-2010, 04:06 PM
At least she's better looking than Lisa Olson if anyone remembers her.

Houshyamama
09-14-2010, 04:09 PM
It wouldn't bother me if I was an NFL player, hell I'd probably enjoy it. But it's ridiculous to believe that a bunch of charged up naked dudes are going to be completely professional (read: politically correct) when a hot woman dressed like that walks in the room. I mean... come on.

orange&blue87
09-14-2010, 04:12 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjTS9sQUcUL5ENJxwrFEf2k5nYcB?slug=ap-femalereporter-portis

This woman is hired for her looks. This is obvious. I know the NFL expects its players to operate in a professional manner and with class... but come on. 53 big dudes in a room or on a field and some fine ass woman walks in... who is ONLY there because she has a fine ass... what do they expect? How is it realistic to expect humans to go against their primal instincts and just pretend for the sake of political correctness that she is there because of her talent and hard work? Are they just supposed to ignore her? I don't understand these PC fags.

And should women reporters be allowed in the locker room after the game? Isn't that just asking for trouble? Are male reporters allowed in to female locker rooms? Why not? Because it's retarded to do so.

I completely 100% disagree with your first paragraph and I'll just leave it at that. As for the second...

Male reporters are allowed into women's locker rooms... if the media representative conducts themselves in an appropriate manner, there shouldn't be a bias based on sex.

I like the idea about no media in the locker room. The problem with it is that most teams are ready to get back on the plane and be done with it. They usually don't want to meet with media, so locker room access is generally a convenience.

Taco John
09-14-2010, 04:13 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Frankly, I think Goodell needs to protect the players from this kind of harassment from the media by implementing this. This story is a media created and media perpetuated story that does nothing but damage the league and hurt the image of the players.

I'll be very curious to see what Roger does.

TDmvp
09-14-2010, 04:16 PM
Male reporters are allowed into women's locker rooms...



No they are not ...

I watched espn today and they covered this ... Men reporters are NOT ALLOWED INTO women's locker rooms in college or pro sports ...

period ...

Houshyamama
09-14-2010, 04:18 PM
frankly, i think goodell needs to protect the players from this kind of harassment from the media by implementing this. This story is a media created and media perpetuated story that does nothing but damage the league and hurt the image of the players.

I'll be very curious to see what roger does.

the jets are being investigated by the nfl after a few players made catcalls directed at sainz on saturday while she was waiting to interview quarterback mark sanchez(notes). also, an assistant coach seemed to deliberately throw the ball to players who were near sainz during a practice drill.

Oh my God!!!!!!!! The Humanity! The Huuuumanityyyyyy!!!!!

Lolad
09-14-2010, 04:20 PM
She looks like she wants to be hit on. If you're a reporter you should dress the part. The only reason she said anything is because he had another female coleague tell her that it was inappropriate for them
To talk to her like that

orange&blue87
09-14-2010, 04:20 PM
No they are not ...

I watched espn today and they covered this ... Men reporters are NOT ALLOWED INTO women's locker rooms in college or pro sports ...

period ...

Then that has changed in the last few years, my apologies.

I can take a guess as to why a change would be necessary, but never saw evidence that one needed to take place when I covered teams after games.

Houshyamama
09-14-2010, 04:23 PM
http://getdemotivated.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=10639&g2_serialNumber=1

PRBronco
09-14-2010, 04:24 PM
Maybe she should watch Mad Men for a little perspective on sexual harrassment in the workplace :wiggle:

tsiguy96
09-14-2010, 04:30 PM
yes, cant say no just because they are female. they need to understand what goes in a locker room, and they need to not be offended by it. that said players need some responsiblity too to act like civil people.

loborugger
09-14-2010, 04:33 PM
THere are quite obvious double standards.

The point is, males don't give a **** if there are females coming in their locker room, we embarace it, encourage it, prefer it.

Females feel violated if men come in when their butt ass naked.

It is what it is.

We do?

Spider
09-14-2010, 04:35 PM
nope ........... they dont belong

The MVPlaya
09-14-2010, 04:38 PM
We do?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7G6ciJUMuAk/SoD9uG78PTI/AAAAAAAAANI/6BtwSHhMZoY/s400/not+sure+if+serious.jpg

Jetmeck
09-14-2010, 04:41 PM
Take a job like that, then dress like that and get whistled at and you cry harassment. What a joke.

Taco John
09-14-2010, 04:45 PM
Take a job like that, then dress like that and get whistled at and you cry harassment. What a joke.

Not just whistled at. They also threw footballs in her vicinity during drills.

Dr. Broncenstein
09-14-2010, 04:46 PM
The pendulum has swung too far.

Popps
09-14-2010, 04:49 PM
Men should have to act like gentlemen.

But, that's like asking the posters on this forum not to suck. About 3/4ths of them just aren't up to the task.

loborugger
09-14-2010, 04:49 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7G6ciJUMuAk/SoD9uG78PTI/AAAAAAAAANI/6BtwSHhMZoY/s400/not+sure+if+serious.jpg

The same to you.

I am not taking such a tenuous position as to speak for the whole of the male gender - esp so adamantly. Even when I was long and lean and 20, I am not sure I woulda been comfortable with females in the locker room (unless I was about to have sex with her, but that is a different story and then the locker better be devoid of everyone else). And I could definitely say I would not have embraced it or encouraged it.

So, per you, I am the only dude like that.

Or is this another obvious double standard?

Jetmeck
09-14-2010, 04:51 PM
Not just whistled at. They also threw footballs in her vicinity during drills.

Well hell if I knew that someone should have called 911, it's a travesty !

Malcontent
09-14-2010, 04:51 PM
Goodness what a fine keister she's got!!!

Jetmeck
09-14-2010, 04:53 PM
Men should have to act like gentlemen.

But, that's like asking the posters on this forum not to suck. About 3/4ths of them just aren't up to the task.

And the women who want a job where they know there will be 53 naked men should not dress like a stripper ! All it takes is a little common sense, huh ?

Jetmeck
09-14-2010, 04:54 PM
Goodness what a fine keister she's got!!!

Second that, oh no we just harassed her. lol

Mediator12
09-14-2010, 04:57 PM
Men should have to act like gentlemen.

But, that's like asking the posters on this forum not to suck. About 3/4ths of them just aren't up to the task.

Men have to be taught to act like Gentlemen, preferably from a Gentleman. Now, ask yourselves how many of these men were raised by a man, and even more a gentleman? It is a small % of these guys who have the first and a much smaller % of the second.

It's like smoking in a fireworks factory. Sure, it is possible. However, it is not a real good idea.

BTW, the media was allowed into locker rooms in the old days in order to speed up travel by bus. Yes, by bus. Every single one of these teams flies a chartered jet home after games. There are plenty of ways for the media to get a story today without having Lockeroom access. IMHO, they should stand in the hallway with the family and friends after the game and try and get their stories or go to the media room when there are interviews after the game maybe?

elsid13
09-14-2010, 05:07 PM
It is professional sport and there are standards that should be addressed upheld. She apparently wasn't dressed in professional manner and that lead to some of the problem, but the coaches and the team acted like a bunch of drunk frat boys vs highly paid contracted individuals.

Both parties are in the wrong, but real problem was the coaches didn't step in tell the team to cool it (Ryan throwing ball toward her only encouraged it). On the scale of things this is non- issue but I am sure that will be some that make this out to be the NFL's Tailhook.

Mediator12
09-14-2010, 05:16 PM
It is professional sport and there are standards that should be addressed upheld. She apparently wasn't dressed in professional manner and that lead to some of the problem, but the coaches and the team acted like a bunch of drunk frat boys vs highly paid contracted individuals.

Both parties are in the wrong, but real problem was the coaches didn't step in tell the team to cool it (Ryan throwing ball toward her only encouraged it). On the scale of things this is non- issue but I am sure that will be some that make this out to be the NFL's Tailhook.

The first rule of entertainment is there is no such thing as bad publicity. That is all this is. Anyone ever heard of that mexican tv channel before today. I watch a ton of Soccer and have NEVER even heard of it before now.

Basically, this was a setup. Anyone with a lick of sense would have seen this coming if they watched how Rex Ryan conducts his lockerroom on Hard Knocks!

The best thing about Roger Goodell is he is willing to stand up to all the "Frat Boy mentality" that this league breeds and try and do something about it. However, these are not the most moldable men I have ever seen either. And yes, I have worked in prisons before trying to help counsel Men who never had fathers in their lives just like these guys.

elsid13
09-14-2010, 05:22 PM
The first rule of entertainment is there is no such thing as bad publicity. That is all this is. Anyone ever heard of that mexican tv channel before today. I watch a ton of Soccer and have NEVER even heard of it before now.

Basically, this was a setup. Anyone with a lick of sense would have seen this coming if they watched how Rex Ryan conducts his lockerroom on Hard Knocks!

The best thing about Roger Goodell is he is willing to stand up to all the "Frat Boy mentality" that this league breeds and try and do something about it. However, these are not the most moldable men I have ever seen either. And yes, I have worked in prisons before trying to help counsel Men who never had fathers in their lives just like these guys.

Med

This isn't about molding men, it about a person in authority (i.e a coach) telling the team to cool it. If I was Woody Johnson I would be reading the riot act to Ryan and all his coaches.

broncosteven
09-14-2010, 05:25 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjTS9sQUcUL5ENJxwrFEf2k5nYcB?slug=ap-femalereporter-portis

This woman is hired for her looks. This is obvious. I know the NFL expects its players to operate in a professional manner and with class... but come on. 53 big dudes in a room or on a field and some fine ass woman walks in... who is ONLY there because she has a fine ass... what do they expect? How is it realistic to expect humans to go against their primal instincts and just pretend for the sake of political correctness that she is there because of her talent and hard work? Are they just supposed to ignore her? I don't understand these PC fags.

And should women reporters be allowed in the locker room after the game? Isn't that just asking for trouble? Are male reporters allowed in to female locker rooms? Why not? Because it's retarded to do so.

Yes and it should be a non story if they are harrassed in the lockerroom, outside the lockerroom is unacceptable but if you want to go in and report while naked men are walking around then expect "you want some of this honey" from naked guys.

That said at no time should the coaches or staff make any comments. They are clothed and the face of the franchise.

Mediator12
09-14-2010, 05:29 PM
Med

This isn't about molding men, it about a person in authority (i.e a coach) telling the team to cool it. If I was Woody Johnson I would be reading the riot act to Ryan and all his coaches.

I agree, however that is not what the NFL is all about. It is about winning games and being "media Friendly" ;D The Jets have no been relevant since Namath was there 40 years ago.

The part you are missing is this was a setup. Why did they not send her to the Colts Facility? I'll tell you why, because Jim Caldwell would not have done that and would not have tolerated it. Why not the steelers, oh yeah Rothlisberger is on Suspension already and they have a no tolerance policy after his behaviors :welcome:

Nothing ever condones the behavior, but this was not just an accident. In fact, far from it. It was a media grab pure, plain, and simple. Come on all that should be very familiar there in DC!

gunns
09-14-2010, 05:48 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Totally agree. Because if you allow male media in there female media has to be allowed also. Now I don't believe she was dressed like a prostitute. But I also have to wonder how harrassing the men were. To me it sounded like they were joking around with her and men will joke sexually especially if it's a nice looking female. If she's going in a male locker room she needs to pull the stick out of her ass. She's in their territory.

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 06:10 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Yep.

Either that or have them take their clothes off before going in.

ColoradoDarin
09-14-2010, 06:14 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Yup, most of the time we have post game press conferences anyways.

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 06:15 PM
Who's the first woman reporter who's going to try to get a peek at the untouchable Tebow?

Josina?

JoRo
09-14-2010, 06:19 PM
Honestly, I can't see the whole harrass thing going too far though, she's gonna cash in on all this pub.


It's like the 6th highest thing on google.

tsiguy96
09-14-2010, 06:19 PM
\ If she's going in a male locker room she needs to pull the stick out of her ass. She's in their territory.

basically this.

Dr. Broncenstein
09-14-2010, 06:23 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, or if it's even relevant to the topic... but she has dat ass.

ColoradoDarin
09-14-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, or if it's even relevant to the topic... but she has dat ass.

So that's what they call it in the medical community!

elsid13
09-14-2010, 06:34 PM
I agree, however that is not what the NFL is all about. It is about winning games and being "media Friendly" ;D The Jets have no been relevant since Namath was there 40 years ago.

The part you are missing is this was a setup. Why did they not send her to the Colts Facility? I'll tell you why, because Jim Caldwell would not have done that and would not have tolerated it. Why not the steelers, oh yeah Rothlisberger is on Suspension already and they have a no tolerance policy after his behaviors :welcome:

Nothing ever condones the behavior, but this was not just an accident. In fact, far from it. It was a media grab pure, plain, and simple. Come on all that should be very familiar there in DC!

I understand what Aztec TV was doing, but Ryan and his staff should have seen it coming. Being stupid to someone's else media grab is entertainment business, makes it worse.

UberBroncoMan
09-14-2010, 06:47 PM
Honestly, I can't see the whole harrass thing going too far though, she's gonna cash in on all this pub.


It's like the 6th highest thing on google.

Ding Ding.

Expect provocative photo shoots and magazine covers, to show a women who is clearly offended by being hit on.

baja
09-14-2010, 06:49 PM
I don't think I have ever seen an easier poll question to answer;







YES

baja
09-14-2010, 06:51 PM
Not if they dress like Ines Sainz

http://urbansportstalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ines-sainz3.jpg

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=653&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=Ines+Sainz&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!

Her name must be Viagra cause she made instantly hard and it's going on 4 hours now

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 06:52 PM
Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!

She looks like leather stretched around a mannequin.

baja
09-14-2010, 06:53 PM
She looks like leather stretched around a mannequin.

Is that good???

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 06:55 PM
Is that good???

:spit:

Maybe if youre into inanimate objects?

Dr. Broncenstein
09-14-2010, 06:56 PM
She looks like leather stretched around a mannequin.

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1149494/photo_05.jpg

Kaylore
09-14-2010, 06:59 PM
Yeah this is ridiculous. Here she is covering a basketball game! Note the press credentials!

http://www.flashki.it/foto/1150464982_ines_flashki_0003.jpg

Here it appears a track event.

http://img.listal.com/image/867996/600full-ines-sainz.jpg

And here she is at a Soccer game:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4443378845_4091a7688e.jpg

Such professionalism!

UberBroncoMan
09-14-2010, 07:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV4ewagkd90

You know what never-mind. It really was some whiny b**** that got this rolling, not her.

Still...she dresses to earn the reaction she gets.

baja
09-14-2010, 07:01 PM
:spit:

Maybe if youre into inanimate objects?

if you don't like that than you should PM bob and ask him if he'd like to meet for coffee.

baja
09-14-2010, 07:02 PM
Yeah this is ridiculous. Here she is covering a basketball game! Note the press credentials!

http://www.flashki.it/foto/1150464982_ines_flashki_0003.jpg

Here it appears a track event.

http://img.listal.com/image/867996/600full-ines-sainz.jpg

And here she is at a Soccer game:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4443378845_4091a7688e.jpg

Such professionalism!

So maybe you'd prefer Josefina?

Dr. Broncenstein
09-14-2010, 07:05 PM
She is a woman who understands the subtle art of dressing for success.

broncosteven
09-14-2010, 07:06 PM
Yeah this is ridiculous. Here she is covering a basketball game! Note the press credentials!

http://www.flashki.it/foto/1150464982_ines_flashki_0003.jpg

Here it appears a track event.

http://img.listal.com/image/867996/600full-ines-sainz.jpg

And here she is at a Soccer game:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4443378845_4091a7688e.jpg

Such professionalism!

It is hard to get Camel toe in jeans.

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 07:14 PM
if you don't like that than you should PM bob and ask him if he'd like to meet for coffee.

She has dudeface.

baja
09-14-2010, 07:19 PM
She has dudeface.

really I didn't notice.

Houshyamama
09-14-2010, 07:43 PM
She has dudeface.

it has a face?

Dr. Broncenstein
09-14-2010, 07:46 PM
If you were in such a position to acutally care about her dudeface, you would be doing it wrong.

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 07:48 PM
really I didn't notice.

Ah, so youre the guy who gets duped into snuggling up with the tranny before you notice the adams apple.

baja
09-14-2010, 07:50 PM
Ah, so youre the guy who gets duped into snuggling up with the tranny before you notice the adams apple.

You think she is a man. I'll pray for you

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 07:51 PM
If you were in such a position to acutally care about her dudeface, you would be doing it wrong.

Chick looks like a mannequin with leather pulled somewhat taut around its exterior, containing massive butt implants, and dudeface. The chesticles look like balloons taped to a board.

I guess you guys dont watch hispanic TV much, but there are much better examples of scantily-clad attractive women on just about every TV show on every other hispanic channel.

baja
09-14-2010, 07:53 PM
Chick looks like a mannequin with leather pulled somewhat taut around its exterior, containing massive butt implants, and dudeface. The chesticles look like balloons taped to a board.

I guess you guys dont watch hispanic TV much, but there are much better examples of scantily-clad attractive women on just about every TV show on every other hispanic channel.

Too late.....

Lev Vyvanse
09-14-2010, 07:55 PM
Ah, so youre the guy who gets duped into snuggling up with the tranny before you notice the adams apple.

http://www.hogwild.net/images/Misc/ines-sainz-mexico-soccer-tampons.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 07:58 PM
http://www.telemundodallas.com/2005/0707/4695503.jpg
Maria Celeste



I'll take elegance-with-a-hint-of-slut over slut-with-a-hint-of-dude anyday.

WABronco
09-14-2010, 07:59 PM
Collective IQ of the Jets' lockerroom: 8.

OH **** MAN SOME HOT CHICK COMIN' IN HERE LETS ALL BE VULGAR SHES ASKIN FOR IT

That One Guy
09-14-2010, 08:01 PM
Eh... I thought the fools drooling over her made an ass of themselves but beyond that, whatever. As I heard the story, they were throwing balls to have the players run into her. She didn't just happen to be in the area so they played catch. These guys have the money to get just about anyone they want yet they have to make an ass of themselves at their workplace? Lame.

That One Guy
09-14-2010, 08:02 PM
http://www.telemundodallas.com/2005/0707/4695503.jpg
Maria Celeste



I'll take elegance-with-a-hint-of-slut over slut-with-a-hint-of-dude anyday.

Uhh... yeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...

Obviously you like a girl with personality.

epicSocialism4tw
09-14-2010, 08:04 PM
yeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...

Obviously you like a girl with personality.

The whole skank thing never did much for me. Classy women have much more appeal.

Broncochica
09-14-2010, 08:13 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

LOL Exactly!!! If this was the case, we would not be discussing this issue. But I have to say she does dress more like a party girl than a sports reporter.

MrPeepers
09-14-2010, 09:22 PM
I wouldn't hit it, she has no earlobes. definately not my type...

:thought:

SoCalBronco
09-14-2010, 10:16 PM
The whole skank thing never did much for me. Classy women have much more appeal.

I agree.....although Kyle vehemently disagrees. ;D

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/kyle%20orton%20with%20bottle.jpg

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-14-2010, 10:56 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Yep.

I've worked as a sports journalist. My least favorite part of the job was going into the locker room. Just unnecessary. There's nothing that can be said in there that can't be said anywhere else, and it's absurd that this is even an issue.

Locker room is off limits to media. Period. Male or female, it doesn't matter.

Archer81
09-14-2010, 11:07 PM
I honestly think a team is a reflection of their HC. If the team acts juvenile...well...betting the HC is. Even if the woman is the hottest thing alive, show some maturity and cut down on the vulgar talk. Be professional.

:Broncos:

ton80
09-14-2010, 11:17 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjTS9sQUcUL5ENJxwrFEf2k5nYcB?slug=ap-femalereporter-portis

This woman is hired for her looks. This is obvious. I know the NFL expects its players to operate in a professional manner and with class... but come on. 53 big dudes in a room or on a field and some fine ass woman walks in... who is ONLY there because she has a fine ass... what do they expect? How is it realistic to expect humans to go against their primal instincts and just pretend for the sake of political correctness that she is there because of her talent and hard work? Are they just supposed to ignore her? I don't understand these PC fags.

And should women reporters be allowed in the locker room after the game? Isn't that just asking for trouble? Are male reporters allowed in to female locker rooms? Why not? Because it's retarded to do so.

**** It. Let's get this country pointed in the right direction. All 53 of em should have dropped trow, pulled out their cocks, and started pullin it. How's that for political correctness?

Dr. Broncenstein
09-14-2010, 11:27 PM
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/049/859/original/roflbot-pBDeDATASS.jpg?1273951017

Dr. Broncenstein
09-14-2010, 11:29 PM
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/28795/original/datass-1.jpg?1259698786

uplink
09-15-2010, 05:45 AM
Men don't go in womens locker rooms so the opposite shouldn't happen either. Its discrimination against men. Some guys may like women but still not want a women looking at them naked after a game.

55CrushEm
09-15-2010, 07:18 AM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Absolutely this.

footstepsfrom#27
09-15-2010, 07:27 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjTS9sQUcUL5ENJxwrFEf2k5nYcB?slug=ap-femalereporter-portis

This woman is hired for her looks. This is obvious. I know the NFL expects its players to operate in a professional manner and with class... but come on. 53 big dudes in a room or on a field and some fine ass woman walks in... who is ONLY there because she has a fine ass... what do they expect? How is it realistic to expect humans to go against their primal instincts and just pretend for the sake of political correctness that she is there because of her talent and hard work? Are they just supposed to ignore her? I don't understand these PC fags.
No, it's about acting like a ****ing adult and showing some common decency and respect instead of behaving like a hormone raging 14 year old. Whether the players like it or not women are allowed in there...don't like it? Go get another job.

Mogulseeker
09-15-2010, 07:27 AM
Maybe she should watch Mad Men for a little perspective on sexual harrassment in the workplace :wiggle:

Yeah the recent episodes have been getting raunchy, haven't they?

Rock Chalk
09-15-2010, 07:48 AM
No, it's about acting like a ****ing adult and showing some common decency and respect instead of behaving like a hormone raging 14 year old. Whether the players like it or not women are allowed in there...don't like it? Go get another job.

Why is it allowed is the question?

Let's assume that the athlete is a professional. That the journalist is a professional. Why then are male journalists not allowed in female locker rooms after a female sporting event? After all, male journalists are just professionals doing their job and if the female athlete doesn't like it, she can go get another job right?

Because it's not right to do so. And it should not be right for women to go into men's locker rooms.

However, they want women covering male sports as well as men so the ONLY solution is to ban journalists from locker rooms. Period.

Mediator12
09-15-2010, 08:19 AM
No, it's about acting like a ****ing adult and showing some common decency and respect instead of behaving like a hormone raging 14 year old. Whether the players like it or not women are allowed in there...don't like it? Go get another job.

Actually, it's both ways. If the journalist would act like a professional, then this is no issue. As it stands, she should be looking for another job. Oh wait, she already is ;D

Rohirrim
09-15-2010, 08:23 AM
Especially after they've spent the entire day on a testosterone building activity. Send me out to paint the fence and I come in horny when I'm done. Or hell, check the mail...

My poor wife.

Or wash a spoon...

or pet the dog...

or change the channel on the TV...

bendog
09-15-2010, 08:26 AM
My problem is how can I shower with not getting an embarrasing woody with this woman in the room?

<img src="http://chikamuna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/erin-andrews2.jpg">

I mean I'm a husband and father and try not to give into my piggish nature that comes from being a male, but damn....

Bronco Yoda
09-15-2010, 08:41 AM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

A very sensable and fair solution.

footstepsfrom#27
09-15-2010, 10:08 AM
Why is it allowed is the question?

Let's assume that the athlete is a professional. That the journalist is a professional. Why then are male journalists not allowed in female locker rooms after a female sporting event? After all, male journalists are just professionals doing their job and if the female athlete doesn't like it, she can go get another job right?

Because it's not right to do so. And it should not be right for women to go into men's locker rooms.

However, they want women covering male sports as well as men so the ONLY solution is to ban journalists from locker rooms. Period.
I agree that it's stupid and in fact I like the idea of banning the press PERIOD from all locker rooms, male and female. My point has more to do with the annoyance factor I get from hearing the constant drumbeat for this and other similar bull**** about the way pro athletes treat and interact with women. Fact is, that **** is tolerated and encouraged from pee-wee leagues through HS and college. We allow and encourage an entire culture of misogyny in male sports of all kinds, particuarly in football, so it's little wonder we get **** like this, the Big Ben thing, Lawrence Phillips, Rae Caruth, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...the beat goes on. When it pops up as a single idiot it's tiresome, but now we're talking about coaches and a bunch of other players...basically a pack mentality and that kind of mess can get out of hand.

Mediator12
09-15-2010, 10:12 AM
I agree that it's stupid and in fact I like the idea of banning the press PERIOD from all locker rooms, male and female. My point has more to do with the annoyance factor I get from hearing the constant drumbeat for this and other similar bull**** about the way pro athletes treat and interact with women. Fact is, that **** is tolerated and encouraged from pee-wee leagues through HS and college. We allow and encourage an entire culture of misogyny in male sports of all kinds, particuarly in football, so it's little wonder we get **** like this, the Big Ben thing, Lawrence Phillips, Rae Caruth, etc, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...the beat goes on. When it pops up as a single idiot it's tiresome, but now we're talking about coaches and a bunch of other players...basically a pack mentality and that kind of mess can get out of hand.

I agree. I have to go coach a bunch of those kids in a couple of hours ;D I got tired of whining about it and decided to make a difference from the inside.

Seriously though, people here have NO idea in most cases how prevalent this stuff happens that does not get reported. However, in this case, it is a pure fraud conducted for PR reasons and a woman who seems to like the attention. As they say in the service, she found a "target rich environment" in order to perpetrate her actions.

Rohirrim
09-15-2010, 10:28 AM
Not if they dress like Ines Sainz

http://urbansportstalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ines-sainz3.jpg

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=653&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=Ines+Sainz&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

My gawd, that girl has some back. Keerist!

bendog
09-15-2010, 10:36 AM
yeah, I thought the league already had sectioned off locker rooms so the actual areas where guys showered and dressed were more or less off limits from everyone but the players and coaches (pity the chorfs with charlie weis). What portis said may have been somewhat true in this case, which doesn't make saying it right.

With kids, and I see this with my own, they have the raging hormones, and the more popular girls tend to be the "faster" girls, and the jocks get the first "pick" of the girls. If your son or daughter has some interest to get them away from the jock culture, you are probably lucky. If not, you're best hope is a good coach who teaches rules.

Houshyamama
09-15-2010, 10:58 AM
yeah, I thought the league already had sectioned off locker rooms so the actual areas where guys showered and dressed were more or less off limits from everyone but the players and coaches (pity the chorfs with charlie weis). What portis said may have been somewhat true in this case, which doesn't make saying it right.

With kids, and I see this with my own, they have the raging hormones, and the more popular girls tend to be the "faster" girls, and the jocks get the first "pick" of the girls. If your son or daughter has some interest to get them away from the jock culture, you are probably lucky. If not, you're best hope is a good coach who teaches rules.

Right there, that's the problem.

What he said may be true... but let's just ignore that and keep pretending that we can change human nature by attempting to enforce unnatural social norms. The South Park episode about Tiger Woods covered this pretty well. Yes, I agree football players in the NFL should act in a professional manner. But sending a beautiful woman dressed for "success" into a locker room full of naked football players is asking for trouble. Why? Because it tempts human nature, one that is there whether you like it or not. And that's the truth.

bendog
09-15-2010, 11:53 AM
Right there, that's the problem.

What he said may be true... but let's just ignore that and keep pretending that we can change human nature by attempting to enforce unnatural social norms. The South Park episode about Tiger Woods covered this pretty well. Yes, I agree football players in the NFL should act in a professional manner. But sending a beautiful woman dressed for "success" into a locker room full of naked football players is asking for trouble. Why? Because it tempts human nature, one that is there whether you like it or not. And that's the truth.

Well, look, it's sorta two different things. It's a little different for school kids than for adults. I didn't see the southpark. But the jocks usually get first "pick" of the "hot girls who put out." That's just a problem in high school, and to a lesser extent in college. If you have a daughter, you're going to wish she didn't have this pressure or that some guy would ask her out instead of asking out some girl who'll put out more. It's life. If you have a son who is not a jock, you may be better off than if he was a jock, lol, but he's not going get first "pick." But all that crap gets sorted out and kids become adults and move on.

The problem is when they don't move on or when they have coaches who don't enforce rules. Bill McCartney had issues, but from what I saw he wanted to help form character too. Ben Rapesberger could have used some of that. I think Jack Elway was interested in character too. Shanahan didn't give a rat's ass, and it bugged me. I wasn't unhappy to see the last of him in Den. You're always going to have incidents of people not doing as well as they should in situations, e.g. Rod Smith/Sharpe. But people make mistakes and so long as it's not a chronic thing it shouldnít be such a big deal. With Big Ben it seems to have been chronic. Men should know they aren't supposed to use pressure or hit. And I admit some women do take advantage, but that doesn't change the rules.

On morning joe today mika was saying 'no one deserves to be harassed.' And she's right. The female reporter in question seems to be more into social issues and a lot less professional than say and Erin Andrews. But that doesn't mean Sonic should have said what he said. It was inappropriate, even though in this particular case it might be true. As a society we decided that females should have the same access to every job that males have, at least in theory, unless there's some rational reason they can't do it, like weigh 320 pounds and run a 5.0 40.

I posted that I think the nfl has sectioned off locker rooms from club houses so the players have privacy ... unless they invite the cameras in for some post game celebrations or pregame broadcast of 'the team prayer." When an Erin Andrews interviews players where ever, in a professional manner, she deserves to be treated as a professional. A professional female reporter isnít going to be interested in frequent random sex with multiple athletes because she wonít get the respect. He colleagues will resent her, and athletes will treat her like a whore. She wonít last long in the biz.

Iím not sure what to say about Tiger. Mickey Mantle probably didn't do anything different than Tiger, and we both know Joe Namath was screwing his lights out. Ball Four was funny, but itís really none of my biz. I really donít see what Tiger did that was so wrong. (Now his wife, may have issues with it, and thatís her biz) I guess Tiger held himself out to be this great family guy, with the Buick and all, and Iíd suspect that some guys on the Tour who really are faithful, or who at least really respect and like their families, were annoyed, and my guess is that Tiger got outed.

Taco John
09-15-2010, 12:16 PM
Or wash a spoon...

or pet the dog...

or change the channel on the TV...

Umm... Pet the dog?

MaloCS
09-15-2010, 12:34 PM
The solution is pretty simple... a designated amount of time for players to shower and dress before taking questions. There's no reason for reporters (male or female) to be in the locker room at all while players are washing their ass cracks. It's just professional courtesy to allow people a small amount of privacy when doing private things.

For immediate post game comments just grab a player as they are walking off the field or wait until the private "shower" time has elapsed.

It's pretty damn simple.

bombay
09-15-2010, 12:55 PM
Not unless I can interview women figure skaters while they change. And some of the golfers are hot now. Someone else can handle the WNBA, softball players, etc.

Rohirrim
09-15-2010, 01:01 PM
Umm... Pet the dog?

I meant me. Sorry.

bendog
09-15-2010, 01:06 PM
grrrrrrrrr.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
09-15-2010, 01:30 PM
52 (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=3318) people voted no?? but shes cute o hell hire the playboy bunnies to interview the players in the locker room have some cute chick in the locker room

Dr. Broncenstein
09-15-2010, 01:36 PM
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2009/12/17/14/dat-ass-4374-1261079704-107.jpg

Mogulseeker
09-15-2010, 01:38 PM
I would love to conduct a "probing interview" in the girls locker room now that you mention it.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
09-15-2010, 01:38 PM
smack that ass oh is that un pc muh bad smack that posterior rear end

bombay
09-15-2010, 01:40 PM
Ass on verge of explosion.

Mogulseeker
09-15-2010, 01:41 PM
smack that ass oh is that un pc muh bad smack that posterior rear end

No according to Josh, it's "mid-behind extremity"

Rohirrim
09-15-2010, 01:42 PM
grrrrrrrrr.

Hey. I've got two pups myself. I would take it very seriously to lose one of them. Unfortunately, my old lab is fifteen. But he's still in good spirits.

Dr. Broncenstein
09-15-2010, 01:45 PM
http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/offtopic-english/943182052d1249724207-happy-birthday-frank-dat-ass1.png

Mogulseeker
09-15-2010, 01:47 PM
http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/offtopic-english/943182052d1249724207-happy-birthday-frank-dat-ass1.png

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100429203416/southpark/images/thumb/e/eb/Nathan.jpg/300px-Nathan.jpg

baja
09-15-2010, 04:21 PM
My gawd, that girl has some back. Keerist!

Who even makes those genes? They can't sell very many pairs.





That is one rare ass!

Garcia Bronco
09-15-2010, 04:33 PM
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That is one rare ass!

Ulitimately I think that's what everybody is missing here. I want one, and I am not afraid to admit it. It would be hard to ignore and it might invoke uncontrollable urge...she's wrong, she's right...all i know is that I saw her! And she was beautiful in those jeans! I'm crazy about her! I love her whole free swinging, free wheeling attitude! :P

Taco John
09-15-2010, 05:26 PM
Ulitimately I think that's what everybody is missing here. I want one, and I am not afraid to admit it. It would be hard to ignore and it might invoke uncontrollable urge...she's wrong, she's right...all i know is that I saw her! And she was beautiful in those jeans! I'm crazy about her! I love her whole free swinging, free wheeling attitude! :P


If her attitude was so freewheeling, she wouldn't be getting all the press that she's getting right now.

baja
09-15-2010, 05:28 PM
If her attitude was so freewheeling, she wouldn't be getting all the press that she's getting right now.

The original complain was made by another reporter. She said she was not bothered about it.

There is a vid on this in this thread.

Houshyamama
09-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Well, look, it's sorta two different things. It's a little different for school kids than for adults. I didn't see the southpark. But the jocks usually get first "pick" of the "hot girls who put out." That's just a problem in high school, and to a lesser extent in college. If you have a daughter, you're going to wish she didn't have this pressure or that some guy would ask her out instead of asking out some girl who'll put out more. It's life. If you have a son who is not a jock, you may be better off than if he was a jock, lol, but he's not going get first "pick." But all that crap gets sorted out and kids become adults and move on.

The problem is when they don't move on or when they have coaches who don't enforce rules. Bill McCartney had issues, but from what I saw he wanted to help form character too. Ben Rapesberger could have used some of that. I think Jack Elway was interested in character too. Shanahan didn't give a rat's ass, and it bugged me. I wasn't unhappy to see the last of him in Den. You're always going to have incidents of people not doing as well as they should in situations, e.g. Rod Smith/Sharpe. But people make mistakes and so long as it's not a chronic thing it shouldnít be such a big deal. With Big Ben it seems to have been chronic. Men should know they aren't supposed to use pressure or hit. And I admit some women do take advantage, but that doesn't change the rules.

On morning joe today mika was saying 'no one deserves to be harassed.' And she's right. The female reporter in question seems to be more into social issues and a lot less professional than say and Erin Andrews. But that doesn't mean Sonic should have said what he said. It was inappropriate, even though in this particular case it might be true. As a society we decided that females should have the same access to every job that males have, at least in theory, unless there's some rational reason they can't do it, like weigh 320 pounds and run a 5.0 40.

I posted that I think the nfl has sectioned off locker rooms from club houses so the players have privacy ... unless they invite the cameras in for some post game celebrations or pregame broadcast of 'the team prayer." When an Erin Andrews interviews players where ever, in a professional manner, she deserves to be treated as a professional. A professional female reporter isnít going to be interested in frequent random sex with multiple athletes because she wonít get the respect. He colleagues will resent her, and athletes will treat her like a whore. She wonít last long in the biz.

Iím not sure what to say about Tiger. Mickey Mantle probably didn't do anything different than Tiger, and we both know Joe Namath was screwing his lights out. Ball Four was funny, but itís really none of my biz. I really donít see what Tiger did that was so wrong. (Now his wife, may have issues with it, and thatís her biz) I guess Tiger held himself out to be this great family guy, with the Buick and all, and Iíd suspect that some guys on the Tour who really are faithful, or who at least really respect and like their families, were annoyed, and my guess is that Tiger got outed.

This was a wonderfully level-headed post, and I guess I agree with all of it.

footstepsfrom#27
09-15-2010, 05:58 PM
Who even makes those genes? They can't sell very many pairs.





That is one rare ass!
Only on a white chick. ;D

baja
09-15-2010, 07:54 PM
Only on a white chick. ;D

I know what you are getting at here but she's Mexican and that's how we raise them down here. Shhh don't tell anyone K.

LRtagger
09-15-2010, 08:03 PM
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kom6uqgMzS1qzma4ho1_400.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
09-15-2010, 08:08 PM
I know what you are getting at here but she's Mexican and that's how we raise them down here. Shhh don't tell anyone K.

Mexican women arent the "junk in the trunk" types, they have some kind of concaved-derrier gene down there. Literally the 'native' Mexicans are descendents from east Asians, so they feature the Asian "butt". Someone should do a study of those phenotypes across those populations. ;D

Bronco Yoda
09-15-2010, 08:11 PM
Not if they dress like Ines Sainz

http://urbansportstalk.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ines-sainz3.jpg

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=653&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=Ines+Sainz&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

I just can't believe a bunch of young athletes would cat-call something like that.

For shame :P

Bronco Yoda
09-15-2010, 08:15 PM
Is it just me or is that pic on the right hypnotic? I keep going into a lucid trance.

m...us..t loo...k a...wa...y.... mu...s..t....lo...ok...aw...ay.....

Archer81
09-15-2010, 08:18 PM
Is it just me or is that pic on the right hypnotic? I keep going into a lucid trance.

m...us..t loo...k a...wa...y.... mu...s..t....lo...ok...aw...ay.....


Oh for the love of pete...its just an ass. Its jiggly powers has no effect on me.


:Broncos:

baja
09-15-2010, 08:24 PM
Oh for the love of pete...its just an ass. Its jiggly powers has no effect on me.


:Broncos:

Would be saying that if it was hairy...

epicSocialism4tw
09-15-2010, 08:25 PM
Oh for the love of pete...its just an ass. Its jiggly powers has no effect on me.


:Broncos:

Hmmm...I wonder why. Ha!

Seriously though. When you consider what that thing carries inside of it, it becomes less and less attractive.

baja
09-15-2010, 08:28 PM
Hmmm...I wonder why. Ha!

Seriously though. When you consider what that thing carries inside of it, it becomes less and less attractive.

You are clearly not an ass man and I am beginning to wonder if I should leave off the word "ass"

Bronco Yoda
09-15-2010, 08:31 PM
Hmmm...I wonder why. Ha!

Seriously though. When you consider what that thing carries inside of it, it becomes less and less attractive.

You're going to die a virgin aren't you.

epicSocialism4tw
09-15-2010, 08:35 PM
You're going to die a virgin aren't you.

Why is that?

Because I dont like leather-coated mannequins with saline butts and breasts that look like compressed baloons? Or sluts in general, which this chick clearly is? This chick has probably been to more extremes than Al Qaeda.

baja
09-15-2010, 08:48 PM
Why is that?

Because I dont like leather-coated mannequins with saline butts and breasts that look like compressed baloons? Or sluts in general, which this chick clearly is? This chick has probably been to more extremes than Al Qaeda.

Here ya go;


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rOTVwjOgkbQ/THbbe_xwv5I/AAAAAAAAADw/HL3DLykjEFY/s1600/Mother-Teresa.jpg

epicSocialism4tw
09-15-2010, 08:55 PM
Here ya go;

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rOTVwjOgkbQ/THbbe_xwv5I/AAAAAAAAADw/HL3DLykjEFY/s1600/Mother-Teresa.jpg

Props to the greatest woman of her time. A beautiful soul for certain. Her face is probably still etched into the minds and hearts of generations of those that she so humbly served.

Ironically, she had less dudeface than the aforementioned.

baja
09-15-2010, 08:58 PM
Well I can agree with the first part...

Lev Vyvanse
09-15-2010, 09:02 PM
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/4kkpvs0.gif (http://www.threadbombing.com/details.php?image_id=1561)

epicSocialism4tw
09-15-2010, 09:23 PM
This is my type:
http://www.buzzine.com/media/data/albums/103/Monica_Bellucci_20060530_3q.jpg

Dagmar
09-15-2010, 09:35 PM
This is my type:
http://www.buzzine.com/media/data/albums/103/Monica_Bellucci_20060530_3q.jpg

Can't argue with Monica Bellucci!

Jennifer Connolly always just shaded her for me...
http://www.darkromance.com/goths/dark-stars/dr-dr-mus-011-jennifer_connelly/dr-dr-mus-jennifer-07-480.jpg

strafen
09-15-2010, 09:39 PM
Would be saying that if it was hairy...That's ****ed-up, man. lol! :D

watermock
09-15-2010, 09:49 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

That is what that money hungry corporate sow of the NFL should be doing.

"You're Terminated mother****er!"

http://lonelytailgater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/saban_office1.jpg

baja
09-15-2010, 11:29 PM
Teams, reporters share responsibility for professional locker room environment
By LINDSAY JONES

http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=obsessedwithsports.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fobsessedwithsports.files.wordpres s.com%2F2008%2F10%2Fashley-russell-1.jpeg&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fobsessedwithsports.wordpress.com %2F2008%2F10%2F29%2Fashley-russell-rivalscom-sports-reporter-hot%2F



As part of my regular duties as an NFL beat writer for The Denver Post, I spend three hours a week inside the Broncos locker room at Dove Valley. In that time, I conduct interviews with Broncos players. We talk about football – about the past game and the upcoming matchup. We talk about college football. We talk about their families, books, movies and TV shows. It is highly unglamorous and entirely unsexy – just a necessary function of my job, the same as hundreds of other reporters (men and women alike) who cover NFL teams across the country.

The locker room is where the NFL has decided the bulk of interviews are to take place, so for those three hours a week – for 45 minutes on four different days – the locker room becomes my work place.


Ines Sainz, a reporter for the Mexican network TV Azteca. Jets owner Woody Johnson apologized for his players' reported treatment of her. (AP)

Yet this week, because of a high-profile incident at New York Jets practice involving a female reporter from a Mexican television station and the ensuing firestorm, the issue of women in the locker room and how we dress and behave while we’re there has become one of the most talked about issues in sports, never mind the fact that there have been equal-access laws in place for more than 25 years. (The Association of Women in Sports Media — of which I am on the board as the co-coordinator of the internship/scholarship program — has done a great job of documenting the history.)

Here is the bottom line for me: As a credentialed member of the media, I am in the locker room for one purpose, and one purpose only, and that it is do my job, and deserve to work in a professional environment – the same as all of my male colleagues — under the rules that the NFL has prescribed. It is the responsibility of the team, from the PR staff to the coaches and their staff to the players themselves, to act like mature adults. Nearly all of them do.

I’m not in there to look at naked players (no matter what Clinton Portis might think) and I’m not there to make friends or get dates. Yet I understand that as a woman, I am always going to be viewed differently than my male colleagues. That means that it is my responsibility to conduct myself in a professional manner at all times. That starts with what I wear, how I address the players, what sort of conversations I initiate and all of my interactions with players. If I want to be treated with respect, I must demand it. Have there been uncomfortable situations? Sure. But since I began covering the Broncos in June 2008, I have never had a negative locker room experience in regards to my gender.

I’m not going to debate the issues at play with the Jets and Ines Sainz because I wasn’t there. I’ve read the same reports you all have and listened to the same debates on sports talk radio (though I’m guessing you haven’t done as much shouting as I have). I can speak though about what is happening here in Denver.

Broncos players go through extensive media training before the season and each player receives a 10-page book from the NFL about media policies. Players watch a video about media relations and this year, Rod Smith spoke to the entire team about how to handle media responsibilities. Rookies receive extra preparation because for many of them, this is their first time in an open locker room setting.

The team would not comment on if the coach Josh McDaniels addressed current situation involving the Jets and Ines Sainz, but team spokesman Patrick Smyth said the team takes significant action to ensure a comfortable and productive environment for players and reporters alike.

“We consistently emphasize to players the importance of treating all media members with respect regardless of the gender,” Smyth said.

baja
09-15-2010, 11:33 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_te_-NCYOffc/TCFKsBH33PI/AAAAAAAABzY/gSnDRJTlE1k/s1600/ines_sainz-6.jpg

The MVPlaya
09-15-2010, 11:36 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_te_-NCYOffc/TCFKsBH33PI/AAAAAAAABzY/gSnDRJTlE1k/s1600/ines_sainz-6.jpg

http://static.bbmp3.com/smilies/nice2.gif
http://static.bbmp3.com/smilies/smug_russell.gif

The MVPlaya
09-15-2010, 11:37 PM
This right here, is my type.

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/168573-1/Bedpost_spin.gif

baja
09-15-2010, 11:38 PM
I think I see an Adam's apple

Archer81
09-15-2010, 11:42 PM
Would be saying that if it was hairy...


Technically, all mammals have hair. BUT...

it does depend. Sometimes some dudes look like they have buckwheat trying to crawl out of their colon and got stuck. Waxing wont kill a person.


:Broncos:

baja
09-15-2010, 11:44 PM
Technically, all mammals have hair. BUT...

it does depend. Sometimes some dudes look like they have buckwheat trying to crawl out of their colon and got stuck. Waxing wont kill a person.


:Broncos:

That is clearly TMI

TheReverend
09-15-2010, 11:44 PM
Teams, reporters share responsibility for professional locker room environment
By LINDSAY JONES

If Lindsay Jones looked like Ines instead of just another dude, she'd probably have had a bad locker room experience.

Archer81
09-15-2010, 11:45 PM
That is clearly TMI


Not really. TMI is me telling you what they wax with.


:Broncos:

The MVPlaya
09-15-2010, 11:47 PM
Yeah I mean if a girl lookin like this

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/16950/gossip-girl-o.gif

walks into a locker room, peoples heads will go

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/272496/head-turn-o.gif

Then they'll react like this

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/46236/head-bang-o.gif

It's natural. Are you going to tell a pregnant women not to scream when she's having a baby? No.

Archer81
09-15-2010, 11:50 PM
Yeah I mean if a girl lookin like this

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/16950/gossip-girl-o.gif

walks into a locker room, peoples heads will go

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/272496/head-turn-o.gif

Then they'll react like this

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/46236/head-bang-o.gif

It's natural. Are you going to tell a pregnant women not to scream when she's having a baby? No.


So...

Its expected that adult men will act like complete and utter assholes in a group? Looking is natural. Making comments is not...have none of these Jets players ever been around a woman before? They in prison? Showing some class or maturity wont kill them. But considering who their HC is, not surprising this happened.

:Broncos:

The MVPlaya
09-15-2010, 11:52 PM
So...

Its expected that adult men will act like complete and utter a-holes in a group? Looking is natural. Making comments is not...have none of these Jets players ever been around a woman before? They in prison? Showing some class or maturity wont kill them. But considering who their HC is, not surprising this happened.

:Broncos:

Well considering they've been with men only for probably about 4-5 hours and had much physical contact with only men, and testosterone is running at a very high level, it's not surprising.

I mean from what she said, all they did was whistle at her and just say some random ****?

I mean REALLY? People need to chill the **** out.

Archer81
09-15-2010, 11:57 PM
Well considering they've been with men only for probably about 4-5 hours and had much physical contact with only men, and testosterone is running at a very high level, it's not surprising.

I mean from what she said, all they did was whistle at her and just say some random ****?

I mean REALLY? People need to chill the **** out.


Thats a lame excuse.

:Broncos:

The MVPlaya
09-15-2010, 11:59 PM
And you have to realize, some women/girls would DIE for that type of attention, and some women/girls cry over NOT getting that type of attention. It's a compliment at it's core/at the end of the day.

Unappreciative bitch.

This is quite obviously not the 1st time in the history of sports this has happened why is it such a big deal now?

I think it's just a scheme to blow herself up/her news station whatever it is.

The MVPlaya
09-16-2010, 12:00 AM
Thats a lame excuse.

:Broncos:

It's not an excuse, it's called explaining the situation.

Like I said, it's not that big of a deal and at the end of the day, THE INTENTIONS ARE ALL GOOD.

Archer81
09-16-2010, 12:03 AM
It's not an excuse, it's called explaining the situation.

Like I said, it's not that big of a deal and at the end of the day, THE INTENTIONS ARE ALL GOOD.


No, that is excusing the behavior. According to you, being in an all male environment with increased testosterone levels automatically means any woman entering that scenario would have been subjected to the same treatment as Ines.

It is a big deal. These are supposedly "professional" athletes. It wouldnt have killed any of them to show maturity and leave the HS **** alone.

:Broncos:

baja
09-16-2010, 12:03 AM
And you have to realize, some women/girls would DIE for that type of attention, and some women/girls cry over NOT getting that type of attention. It's a compliment at it's core/at the end of the day.

Unappreciative b****.

This is quite obviously not the 1st time in the history of sports this has happened why is it such a big deal now?

I think it's just a scheme to blow herself up/her news station whatever it is.

Bottom line (no pun intended ) she doesn't care why should anyone else.

The MVPlaya
09-16-2010, 12:05 AM
Bottom line (no pun intended ) she doesn't care why should anyone else.

media is ALWAYS starving.

The MVPlaya
09-16-2010, 12:09 AM
No, that is excusing the behavior. According to you, being in an all male environment with increased testosterone levels automatically means any woman entering that scenario would have been subjected to the same treatment as Ines.

It is a big deal. These are supposedly "professional" athletes. It wouldnt have killed any of them to show maturity and leave the HS **** alone.

:Broncos:

Call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day it's natural.

Ask a girl DRESSED the way she does to walk in an all male environment and see what happens. In a corporate environment with cash deep people, she'd probably be offered money in a "more professional" manner. However intentions are different, they're trying to ****.

These athletes are professionals, but they get their by playing their sport.

If you think this is a big deal, then you really need to get in touch with the "real" world.

Archer81
09-16-2010, 12:13 AM
Call it whatever you want, but at the end of the day it's natural.

Ask a girl DRESSED the way she does to walk in an all male environment and see what happens. In a corporate environment with cash deep people, she'd probably be offered money in a "more professional" manner. However intentions are different, they're trying to ****.

These athletes are professionals, but they get their by playing their sport.

If you think this is a big deal, then you really need to get in touch with the "real" world.


The fact you called the chick an ungrateful bitch kind of makes my point for me. But thanks for telling me how the real world works.

:Broncos:

The MVPlaya
09-16-2010, 12:16 AM
The fact you called the chick an ungrateful b**** kind of makes my point for me. But thanks for telling me how the real world works.

:Broncos:

Yes because I was dead serious.
:thumbsup: Good job there buddy, you got me.

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/167350-3/Soccer_sportscaster_incoming.gif

Boomhauer
09-16-2010, 12:16 AM
Teams, reporters share responsibility for professional locker room environment
By LINDSAY JONES
http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=obsessedwithsports.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fobsessedwithsports.files.wordpres s.com%2F2008%2F10%2Fashley-russell-1.jpeg&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fobsessedwithsports.wordpress.com %2F2008%2F10%2F29%2Fashley-russell-rivalscom-sports-reporter-hot%2F
...

That's not Lindsay Jones, it's Ashley Russell from the third-tier sports source Rivals.com
I doubt Lindsay Jones' claim that she's felt 'uncomfortable at times' due to male athletes. She is, to be polite, unattractive and probably never heard a provocative comment, especially since she wears attire to avoid such.

Miss I.
09-16-2010, 02:42 AM
Wow, just wow. All faith I had in men's ability to not be sexist asshats is completely left in tatters, with a few minor glimmers of hope here and there.

For the record, I don't think there's any need for interviews in the locker room by male or female journalists. It should be done either before they enter or after or in a designated media setting as other posters have mentioned

Regarding this particular journalist's attire: yes the images I saw do not scream professional attire, but this does not justify the unprofessional behavior and comments made by the players. Otherwise apparently all the college coeds who get date raped should also be blamed for drinking too much and dressing provocatively (oh wait men already do that). And yes it is the same, one person's behavior or dress does not justify the responses on the other end. It's one thing to think something, entirely another to act upon it. Being professional or at least a rational thinking adult should stop one from acting upon every asinine thought coming through one's brain (though posters on this site occasionally prove this not to be the case).

Additionally, regarding her attire, you do understand this is a marketing ploy by her station? If they didn't want her to wear that, she would be in other clothes. Does it make it right, no, but they are there selling a product to their target audience and my guess is that their target audience likes less professionally attired attractive female sports announcers and is predominantly young and male (and probably sexist and dumb, but that's my opinion). I do think they are playing this for whatever publicity they can get as well, I mean really had anyone ever heard of this station or this announcer before this incident, i mean enmasse?

Atwater His Ass
09-16-2010, 04:09 AM
Kick'em all out, or males only. There's no good reason that women should be in a men's locker room.

I find it interesting that this discussion will never happen with males being allowed in a female locker room. Hey, but equality amirite?

The mentality that reigns in a male locker room is the same reason society won't tolerate them in a women's locker room. It's not rocket science.

Mediator12
09-16-2010, 05:29 AM
No, that is excusing the behavior. According to you, being in an all male environment with increased testosterone levels automatically means any woman entering that scenario would have been subjected to the same treatment as Ines.

It is a big deal. These are supposedly "professional" athletes. It wouldnt have killed any of them to show maturity and leave the HS **** alone.

:Broncos:

Look, the behavior is unexcusable. It really is.

However, she has about as much right to be in that lockerroom as I have to be in the women's changing room at a fashion show! Common Sense has left society completely and been replaced with rugged individuality. My rights are now more important than yours our society.

The thing about this is its a setup of the highest order. It is simply taking advantage of a group think mentality of guys in a lockeroom. These guys have repeatedly proven to NOT be PC and capable of being gentlemen. So, the station sends in a "reporter" that will cause a reaction from the lowest depths of respect that these men showed. The made a play and got the reaction they desired. They got their 15 minutes in the US.

Mediator12
09-16-2010, 06:00 AM
Wow, just wow. All faith I had in men's ability to not be sexist asshats is completely left in tatters, with a few minor glimmers of hope here and there.

For the record, I don't think there's any need for interviews in the locker room by male or female journalists. It should be done either before they enter or after or in a designated media setting as other posters have mentioned

Regarding this particular journalist's attire: yes the images I saw do not scream professional attire, but this does not justify the unprofessional behavior and comments made by the players. Otherwise apparently all the college coeds who get date raped should also be blamed for drinking too much and dressing provocatively (oh wait men already do that). And yes it is the same, one person's behavior or dress does not justify the responses on the other end. It's one thing to think something, entirely another to act upon it. Being professional or at least a rational thinking adult should stop one from acting upon every asinine thought coming through one's brain (though posters on this site occasionally prove this not to be the case).

Additionally, regarding her attire, you do understand this is a marketing ploy by her station? If they didn't want her to wear that, she would be in other clothes. Does it make it right, no, but they are there selling a product to their target audience and my guess is that their target audience likes less professionally attired attractive female sports announcers and is predominantly young and male (and probably sexist and dumb, but that's my opinion). I do think they are playing this for whatever publicity they can get as well, I mean really had anyone ever heard of this station or this announcer before this incident, i mean enmasse?

I am very sorry that you have to lose your expectations of an entire gender over the misguided actions of a few. Especially, those on the OM.

However, I have worked with victims for many years, and this is a situation that does not cry victimization. Victims never see it coming, they ignore all the warning signs and are truly victimized by someone. They go into shock for a period of time and want to talk to no one. Plus, there are a ton more behaviors that are easily recognizable. None of that happened here.

This was a setup. This woman was not only prepared for this reaction, she was wanting it, and then exploited it within 24 hours by making a TV appearance on a show she would never have had the ability to get on unless this happened. Now, it is speculation that her employer colluded with this, but it is not that big of a stretch. They hired her to be a sports reporter.


One other point, nothing ever excuses the behaviors of men who commit violent crimes like date rape. Women do not "ask for it", they simply put themselves in harm's way in order to have a good time. It is a risk that most women take, with out ever thinking about it being risky. They believe they have the right to walk into any situation and not be harmed. And, they do have that right.

However, the reason we have laws in the first place is people break those rights daily. Having the expectation of being safe in any circumstance is preposterous. It is why we lock our doors, try to avoid certain neighborhoods, and never let our kids be outside alone anymore. Date rape is entirely the fault of the perpetrator, however it can be a non-issue if every date is approached with a degree of concern over their well being. The problem is that rugged individualism says I SHOULD be able to do this, when the reality is something completely different.

Believe me, my daughter absolutely knows about taking risks with other people. I have seen and counseled some absolutely horrible situations, and I pray she never sees anything like what I have seen. However, I am not doing my job as a father in today's society if I do not warn her that life is not fair and their is danger everywhere. Partying in college has dramatic risks associated with it. I just want her to know what everyone of those are before she decides if she wants to participate.

Miss I.
09-16-2010, 06:44 AM
I am very sorry that you have to lose your expectations of an entire gender over the misguided actions of a few. Especially, those on the OM.

However, I have worked with victims for many years, and this is a situation that does not cry victimization. Victims never see it coming, they ignore all the warning signs and are truly victimized by someone. They go into shock for a period of time and want to talk to no one. Plus, there are a ton more behaviors that are easily recognizable. None of that happened here.

This was a setup. This woman was not only prepared for this reaction, she was wanting it, and then exploited it within 24 hours by making a TV appearance on a show she would never have had the ability to get on unless this happened. Now, it is speculation that her employer colluded with this, but it is not that big of a stretch. They hired her to be a sports reporter.


One other point, nothing ever excuses the behaviors of men who commit violent crimes like date rape. Women do not "ask for it", they simply put themselves in harm's way in order to have a good time. It is a risk that most women take, with out ever thinking about it being risky. They believe they have the right to walk into any situation and not be harmed. And, they do have that right.

However, the reason we have laws in the first place is people break those rights daily. Having the expectation of being safe in any circumstance is preposterous. It is why we lock our doors, try to avoid certain neighborhoods, and never let our kids be outside alone anymore. Date rape is entirely the fault of the perpetrator, however it can be a non-issue if every date is approached with a degree of concern over their well being. The problem is that rugged individualism says I SHOULD be able to do this, when the reality is something completely different.

Believe me, my daughter absolutely knows about taking risks with other people. I have seen and counseled some absolutely horrible situations, and I pray she never sees anything like what I have seen. However, I am not doing my job as a father in today's society if I do not warn her that life is not fair and their is danger everywhere. Partying in college has dramatic risks associated with it. I just want her to know what everyone of those are before she decides if she wants to participate.

You make very valid points and as individuals, female or otherwise, there is a certain level of awareness when we go into a situation. In an ideal world, individuals would not use various reasons to excuse their behavior, but would evaluate before reacting. We don't of course live in such a world.

As for the guys on here making me jaded, it isn't just them, nor would I ever disregard a gender based on the actions of a few or even a lot. I try (though like anyone, often fail) try to take each individual as who they are based on their history.

I am more irritated by the myriad of of comments saying she should take it as a compliment or most girls would like that or similar comments. And as I see this line of logic running through similar threads, it makes me wonder about a lot. And as for her milking this for publicity, I am sure she is, so I don't feel she is a victim, but neither do I think it makes the various degrees of grotesque commentary okay either. And as a woman if she has in fact done this to increase her public persona, I have to say I resent that, because I think she's damaged female credibility by doing it.

epicSocialism4tw
09-16-2010, 06:52 AM
You make very valid points and as individuals, female or otherwise, there is a certain level of awareness when we go into a situation. In an ideal world, individuals would not use various reasons to excuse their behavior, but would evaluate before reacting. We don't of course live in such a world.

As for the guys on here making me jaded, it isn't just them, nor would I ever disregard a gender based on the actions of a few or even a lot. I try (though like anyone, often fail) try to take each individual as who they are based on their history.

I am more irritated by the myriad of of comments saying she should take it as a compliment or most girls would like that or similar comments. And as I see this line of logic running through similar threads, it makes me wonder about a lot. And as for her milking this for publicity, I am sure she is, so I don't feel she is a victim, but neither do I think it makes the various degrees of grotesque commentary okay either. And as a woman if she has in fact done this to increase her public persona, I have to say I resent that, because I think she's damaged female credibility by doing it.

This is common in Mexican TV, where women are objects in a more extreme way than they are in even US TV. If you turn on the news (noticias), odds are you are going to see girls in bikinis at some point. It might even be the anchors. Its common on most Mexican TV shows for there to be scantilly-clad "dancers" who are a permanent part of the set. They never say anything that isnt flirtatious.

Mexican culture is highly sexualized and divided in terms of gender.

bendog
09-16-2010, 07:53 AM
You make very valid points and as individuals, female or otherwise, there is a certain level of awareness when we go into a situation. In an ideal world, individuals would not use various reasons to excuse their behavior, but would evaluate before reacting. We don't of course live in such a world.

As for the guys on here making me jaded, it isn't just them, nor would I ever disregard a gender based on the actions of a few or even a lot. I try (though like anyone, often fail) try to take each individual as who they are based on their history.

I am more irritated by the myriad of of comments saying she should take it as a compliment or most girls would like that or similar comments. And as I see this line of logic running through similar threads, it makes me wonder about a lot. And as for her milking this for publicity, I am sure she is, so I don't feel she is a victim, but neither do I think it makes the various degrees of grotesque commentary okay either. And as a woman if she has in fact done this to increase her public persona, I have to say I resent that, because I think she's damaged female credibility by doing it.

I'm hoping that some posters are just pathetically seeking attention, but there's a reason I limit my time here. Juviniles who prolly didn't play, or date, much.

I made a bad joke about this too, early on. This particular incident was a. a rather unprofessional reporter who seems more enamoured with getting near male athletes than reporting and b. not terribly extreme male behavior but more dumbass ****e. The Jests have a coach who is entertaining, but he's also not the kind of guy who really sets a tone of "this is how it's done, son."

The threads sort of become a beavis and butthead parody.

broncocalijohn
09-16-2010, 12:15 PM
Oh for the love of pete...its just an ass. Its jiggly powers has no effect on me.


:Broncos:

there is a reason why. Which one is you?

Old Dude
09-16-2010, 02:19 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

Ditto. Or else interview them as they come off the field, and before they enter the locker room.

Rohirrim
09-16-2010, 02:30 PM
Wow, just wow. All faith I had in men's ability to not be sexist asshats is completely left in tatters, with a few minor glimmers of hope here and there.

For the record, I don't think there's any need for interviews in the locker room by male or female journalists. It should be done either before they enter or after or in a designated media setting as other posters have mentioned

Regarding this particular journalist's attire: yes the images I saw do not scream professional attire, but this does not justify the unprofessional behavior and comments made by the players. Otherwise apparently all the college coeds who get date raped should also be blamed for drinking too much and dressing provocatively (oh wait men already do that). And yes it is the same, one person's behavior or dress does not justify the responses on the other end. It's one thing to think something, entirely another to act upon it. Being professional or at least a rational thinking adult should stop one from acting upon every asinine thought coming through one's brain (though posters on this site occasionally prove this not to be the case).

Additionally, regarding her attire, you do understand this is a marketing ploy by her station? If they didn't want her to wear that, she would be in other clothes. Does it make it right, no, but they are there selling a product to their target audience and my guess is that their target audience likes less professionally attired attractive female sports announcers and is predominantly young and male (and probably sexist and dumb, but that's my opinion). I do think they are playing this for whatever publicity they can get as well, I mean really had anyone ever heard of this station or this announcer before this incident, i mean enmasse?

Yeah, I guess so...

but did you see that ass?! Yikes!

bombay
09-16-2010, 02:38 PM
If her station wants to dress her like a bimbo and parade her around the locker room, then cry over catcalls, **** them and **** her.

Somehow I doubt she objected to being objectified. If she did, her lawsuit is against her employer. Their target audience is probably not fat old women.

baja
09-16-2010, 02:42 PM
Seven pages amazing

I got an idea, everybody that wants to be in the locker room must be naked, it would put everyone on a level playing field. Don't like the rule don't go in.

jhns
09-16-2010, 02:52 PM
Bottom line (no pun intended ) she doesn't care why should anyone else.

This is the one thing I don't get. Half the world seems to be dogging her and the other half is dogging the team. People are talkin about how she shouldn't be there if she has a problem with it, or shouldn't be dressing that way if she doesn't like it. It doesn't make sense.

The only thing I have seen her say about it is that she didn't even know it was going on and doesn't care if they get in trouble for it. It was some random other person that got this all started. Also, why dog the players? They didn't do anything that offended this woman. Some loser on the side got offended because they weren't getting attention. I think everyone should just hate on whoever that was.

Missouribronc
09-16-2010, 02:56 PM
To me, this issue is simple: make the locker room a players sanctuary (ie. no media), and have a reception area outside the locker room where players come out after they are dressed and talk to the media.

This. Why exactly do reporters have to be in locker rooms? I've never quite understood this at all.

baja
09-16-2010, 02:59 PM
This is the one thing I don't get. Half the world seems to be dogging her and the other half is dogging the team. People are talkin about how she shouldn't be there if she has a problem with it, or shouldn't be dressing that way if she doesn't like it. It doesn't make sense.

The only thing I have seen her say about it is that she didn't even know it was going on and doesn't care if they get in trouble for it. It was some random other person that got this all started. Also, why dog the players? They didn't do anything that offended this woman.<b> Some loser on the side got offended because they weren't getting attention.</b> I think everyone should just hate on whoever that was.

sadly I think this is probably true. All the hupala over this is indicative of a society that has lost sight of what is important and will suffer greatly for it.

Old Dude
09-16-2010, 03:03 PM
This. Why exactly do reporters have to be in locker rooms? I've never quite understood this at all.

I think the counter-argument is that it's "an event." I can sort of see that following a championship game where people are spraying each other with champagne and whatnot, but somewhere along the line it became routine to send people into the lockers in every game of any kind, win or lose. And in those situations, who cares?

So what do you do about the champagne celebrations? I suppose you could tell the players to do it in the reception area if they want to share.

I mean, if a couple guys decided to spray some guy sitting on a toilet, would the press feel the need to barge into the stall to cover it?

Missouribronc
09-16-2010, 03:21 PM
I think the counter-argument is that it's "an event." I can sort of see that following a championship game where people are spraying each other with champagne and whatnot, but somewhere along the line it became routine to send people into the lockers in every game of any kind, win or lose. And in those situations, who cares?

So what do you do about the champagne celebrations? I suppose you could tell the players to do it in the reception area if they want to share.

I mean, if a couple guys decided to spray some guy sitting on a toilet, would the press feel the need to barge into the stall to cover it?

I just don't understand the need to be in the locker room. Why the locker room? Every stadium today has fancy press rooms attached to the locker room, or down the hall. I've been back in several stadiums (Kauffman/Edward Jones). There's only one exit (or maybe two) from the lockerroom. No one is "escaping" without comment. Hell, players "escape" without commenting all the time, anyway.

I know they put a time limit on it, so its not like reporters are waiting in the locker rooms, but its something like 15 or 20 minutes before they are allowed in. Does it make the quote juicier if he's sitting next to his locker?

Old Dude
09-16-2010, 03:23 PM
I just don't understand the need to be in the locker room. Why the locker room? Every stadium today has fancy press rooms attached to the locker room, or down the hall. I've been back in several stadiums (Kauffman/Edward Jones). There's only one exit (or maybe two) from the lockerroom. No one is "escaping" without comment. Hell, players "escape" without commenting all the time, anyway.

I know they put a time limit on it, so its not like reporters are waiting in the locker rooms, but its something like 15 or 20 minutes before they are allowed in. Does it make the quote juicier if he's sitting next to his locker?

I tend to agree with all of your points.

Chris
09-16-2010, 03:28 PM
Everyone just needs to get laid in this situation.

bombay
09-16-2010, 03:30 PM
That bim's butt is going to 'splode.

Boomhauer
09-17-2010, 03:56 AM
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I am more irritated by the myriad of of comments saying she should take it as a compliment or most girls would like that or similar comments. And as I see this line of logic running through similar threads, it makes me wonder about a lot. And as for her milking this for publicity, I am sure she is, so I don't feel she is a victim, but neither do I think it makes the various degrees of grotesque commentary okay either. And as a woman if she has in fact done this to increase her public persona, I have to say I resent that, because I think she's damaged female credibility by doing it.

In case you hadn't noticed, this site is overrun with vulgarity, conflict and general Jr High maturity and stupidity with a strong dose of blind Broncos cheerleading. While I agree with you that much of the comments and sexism in this thread are completely inappropriate in any context, it's the 1st Amendment right to say such and you're always capable of going elsewhere.

To your second point about her 'damaging female credibility' by 'milking this for publicity' 'to increase her public persona'; I ask you when have women not used their appearance to make strides? While it's not essential for women to be attractive to succede, they haven't been putting on makeup for nearly 5,000yrs without reason. In film and media looks are almost essential to success (with a few exceptions) and if she creates 15min to boost her image, as well as booty implants and bleached hair, how does that in any way effect female credibility?

To use a quote seen multiple times at this site, Someone needs to get the sand out of their vagina.

Miss I.
09-17-2010, 05:05 AM
In case you hadn't noticed, this site is overrun with vulgarity, conflict and general Jr High maturity and stupidity with a strong dose of blind Broncos cheerleading. While I agree with you that much of the comments and sexism in this thread are completely inappropriate in any context, it's the 1st Amendment right to say such and you're always capable of going elsewhere.

To your second point about her 'damaging female credibility' by 'milking this for publicity' 'to increase her public persona'; I ask you when have women not used their appearance to make strides? While it's not essential for women to be attractive to succede, they haven't been putting on makeup for nearly 5,000yrs without reason. In film and media looks are almost essential to success (with a few exceptions) and if she creates 15min to boost her image, as well as booty implants and bleached hair, how does that in any way effect female credibility?

To use a quote seen multiple times at this site, Someone needs to get the sand out of their vagina.

Okay, yes I am capable of going elsewhere. My guess is so are you. It is an opinion board, so I can post my opinion just like the myriad of jackasses who make sexist stupid comments (including the sandy vagina ones). And I don't respond to all of them. If I did, I would be here forever. I generally focus on the ones I find particularly distasteful and the rest become written off to "not worth my time for a response."

You say get sand out of vagina, I say remove head from ass.

Boomhauer
09-17-2010, 05:19 AM
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yeah, I could just acccept that men will always be sexist asshats and ignore the comments, but where's the fun in that. You say sandy vagina, I say I am simply trying to suggest to a few of you to get your heads out of your asses.

Noble and often entertaining, but you can't fix stupid. Sexists, wether machonists or feminists, are lost causes just like any other bigot, racist or zealot (like the aformentioned blind Bronco cheerleaders).

Rohirrim
09-17-2010, 07:37 AM
Take #1: Nobody but players and team staff should be allowed in the locker rooms. Period.

Take #2: If Ines is there to do business, she should dress like she's there to do business. I notice the male sportscasters are wearing suits.

Tombstone RJ
09-17-2010, 09:47 AM
No one should be allowed in the locker room except players and coaches. Give the players 30 minutes to change and get out of the locker room for an interview and make that an NFL policy. After an interview(s) they can leave. However, every player must make themselves accessible to the media, or face financial penalties/fines. You hit a player in the wallet for avoiding the media and he'll adjust his behavior.

Not sure why this is even an issue, seems like teams are setting themselves up for situations like this by being politcally correct and allowing female reporters into the locker room. Again, politcal correctness gone bad.

Mogulseeker
09-17-2010, 10:10 AM
Noble and often entertaining, but you can't fix stupid. Sexists, wether machonists or feminists, are lost causes just like any other bigot, racist or zealot (like the aformentioned blind Bronco cheerleaders).

What the hell is a machonist?

A misogynist, perhaps?

UberBroncoMan
09-17-2010, 07:24 PM
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/09/13/Ines_Sainz__019.jpg

THE EYES!

Houshyamama
09-17-2010, 08:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3RduF.jpg

Mogulseeker
09-18-2010, 01:38 PM
The face

http://www.findtimo.com/daily/wp-content/uploads/giselebundchenbylachapelle.jpg