BoiseBluTurf
09-14-2010, 12:05 PM
Why do some posters on the Mane speak so negatively of YAC yards when trying to prove a negative about QB 1? It makes no sense! Getting the ball to a playmaker in open space is the object of many successful offensive systems. How is it a negative to have QB 1 can get the ball in the hands of a wide open receiver 6 or 7 yards down the field in open space allowing the receiver to make one or two people miss resulting in a 15 to 20 yard gain? Doesn’t that describe a successful play? If it is a successful play? If it is a successful play… don’t both players deserve credit for the success? Some on this board would have you believe that it’s a great play by the receiver and a negative for QB 1!
Those same posters would have you believe that the only positive way to gain big chunks of yards is by going Vertical! Even though its probably (I’m not a state geek) has a very low percentage of being completed. Before I go any further… let me be clear… I do believe that the deep ball needs to be thrown a couple times a game. That being said… YOU NEED TIME TO GET THE BALLL DOWN FIELD… and with the current offensive line, time is something that the Broncos can’t depend on. Believe it or not, when the coaches put the game plan together they take the current state of the offensive line into consideration… weird hu?
Let me ask you something would be Raider Fan… how has the vertical stretch game for the Raiders over the past 20 years? How did it work with a QB that could only throw it deep (Russell)? I think that dude has a bright future in the game!
Contrast that with a couple teams over the past 20 years, The Niners and Broncos… Both ran the West Coast offense and both had some decent yet not great players. Some dudes by the name or Rice, Montana, Elway, Eddie Mac, Rod Smith just to name a few. You may not be familiar with these players because they were held back by the “Dink and Dunk” offense. As a result, none of them ever had any individual or team success.
Wait, I think Montana and Elway managed to fool people into thinking they were Hall of Famers… and both teams lucked into a few Super Bowl Victories.
Of course none of that counts because "Dink and Dunk (or YAC)" accomplishments don’t count!
Forgot the fact that Jerry Rice made a career out of YAC. All those yards Rice had after the catch should be ignored. At the very least Montana deserves no praise for getting it to his open reciever. Nope, instead Joe be scorned for not waiving Jerry deeper and forcing the ball into tight coverage for style points! If Joe did have to throw it short, Jerry should have stopped right when he caught the ball. Frisbee Football anyone?
Now I know that some of you will rightfully point out the fact that both of these teams would huck it deep from time to time. I'm not arguing against that point. On the contrary, its my opinion that the “Dink and Dunk” offense opened up some of these opportunities. And in keeping with my earlier statement, both teams had time to throw it deep because of great offensive lines and solid if not stellar running games.
Why turn every positive into a negative? It would appear to a long time lurker that most on this board back themselves into a corner with early proclamations about players/coaches and game plans. Once these proclamations have been made it snowballs and pretty soon objectivity is out the door.
Keeping that in mind as I try to look at the current Broncos with some objectivity I see a team that will be limited in the running game and the vertical game until the O-line is solid again. In the mean time, take advantage of Royal, Lloyd and Gaffney in open space. Try to get the ball to playmakers quickly because the line won’t allow much more. And finally… try to appreciate the fact that QB 1 is trying to take what is there and not wait to force what may not be there… or get him sacked.
Sorry about the long post and poor grammar… I pounded it out while my boss was on break.
Those same posters would have you believe that the only positive way to gain big chunks of yards is by going Vertical! Even though its probably (I’m not a state geek) has a very low percentage of being completed. Before I go any further… let me be clear… I do believe that the deep ball needs to be thrown a couple times a game. That being said… YOU NEED TIME TO GET THE BALLL DOWN FIELD… and with the current offensive line, time is something that the Broncos can’t depend on. Believe it or not, when the coaches put the game plan together they take the current state of the offensive line into consideration… weird hu?
Let me ask you something would be Raider Fan… how has the vertical stretch game for the Raiders over the past 20 years? How did it work with a QB that could only throw it deep (Russell)? I think that dude has a bright future in the game!
Contrast that with a couple teams over the past 20 years, The Niners and Broncos… Both ran the West Coast offense and both had some decent yet not great players. Some dudes by the name or Rice, Montana, Elway, Eddie Mac, Rod Smith just to name a few. You may not be familiar with these players because they were held back by the “Dink and Dunk” offense. As a result, none of them ever had any individual or team success.
Wait, I think Montana and Elway managed to fool people into thinking they were Hall of Famers… and both teams lucked into a few Super Bowl Victories.
Of course none of that counts because "Dink and Dunk (or YAC)" accomplishments don’t count!
Forgot the fact that Jerry Rice made a career out of YAC. All those yards Rice had after the catch should be ignored. At the very least Montana deserves no praise for getting it to his open reciever. Nope, instead Joe be scorned for not waiving Jerry deeper and forcing the ball into tight coverage for style points! If Joe did have to throw it short, Jerry should have stopped right when he caught the ball. Frisbee Football anyone?
Now I know that some of you will rightfully point out the fact that both of these teams would huck it deep from time to time. I'm not arguing against that point. On the contrary, its my opinion that the “Dink and Dunk” offense opened up some of these opportunities. And in keeping with my earlier statement, both teams had time to throw it deep because of great offensive lines and solid if not stellar running games.
Why turn every positive into a negative? It would appear to a long time lurker that most on this board back themselves into a corner with early proclamations about players/coaches and game plans. Once these proclamations have been made it snowballs and pretty soon objectivity is out the door.
Keeping that in mind as I try to look at the current Broncos with some objectivity I see a team that will be limited in the running game and the vertical game until the O-line is solid again. In the mean time, take advantage of Royal, Lloyd and Gaffney in open space. Try to get the ball to playmakers quickly because the line won’t allow much more. And finally… try to appreciate the fact that QB 1 is trying to take what is there and not wait to force what may not be there… or get him sacked.
Sorry about the long post and poor grammar… I pounded it out while my boss was on break.