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SoCalBronco
09-12-2010, 11:00 PM
Orton not bothered by Tebow use in Broncos' opener
By Mike Klis
The Denver Post

Posted: 09/12/2010 06:16:09 PM MDTUpdated: 09/12/2010 07:36:45 PM MDT


The Jaguars' Tyson Alualu, right, tackles Broncos rookie quarterback Tim Tebow on Sunday at EverBank Field in Jacksonville, Fla. (Sam Greenwood, Getty Images)Related
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Weather helps Jaguars against BroncosJACKSONVILLE Kyle Orton was asked if his rhythm was disrupted by the presence of Tim Tebow.

Last year, then-Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb complained about a similar insertion with Michael Vick. Those who watched Orton's performance in the preseason already knew the answer.

"This stuff made of the rhythm, you can put me in the stands for a play and I'd come back and be fine with the rhythm," Orton said after the Broncos' 24-17 loss Sunday to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

The Broncos were cruising on their game-opening drive with Orton at quarterback. First down, play-action completion for 28 yards to Daniel Graham, then a 10-yard run by Knowshon Moreno.

On first-and-10 at the Jacksonville 41, in came Tebow for the Wild Horse play. Tebow gained one yard.

Orton, who was split out wide on the play, went back to shotgun and completed a 13-yard pass to Eddie Royal. Tebow came back in on the next play, only this time he was split out wide right. He became a decoy as Orton threw left to Daniel Graham for 8 yards.

And on the Broncos went until Moreno's third-and-1 carry. It would have picked up a first down to the Jacksonville 12, but was called back by a holding penalty on rookie right tackle Zane Beadles, who had been playing left guard in training camp and most of the preseason.

Beadles' penalty and Orton taking a third-down sack instead of throwing it away and not the Tebow package cost the Broncos of scoring at least a field goal.

Tebow would get one more first down carry early in the second quarter, and got one more yard. He didn't take another snap.

"With Tim's package, if there was something that gave them trouble he would stay in a little bit more," said Broncos coach Josh McDaniels. "But we had not predetermined how many plays he would be in."

"The Tebow Package" against the Jaguars was about the first-down "Wild Horse" not the third-and-short, red-zone situations that would seem to suit his pass-run option talents.

"I don't know what to expect," Tebow said. "It's a day-to-day thing. We'll go to practice tomorrow and see what they want me to do and how they want me to do it. And that's what I'm going to go out there and do."

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_16058713

BlaK-Argentina
09-12-2010, 11:05 PM
That "package" was a waste of plays. Even my cat knew it was a run up the middle.

OBF1
09-12-2010, 11:13 PM
Why would anyone be bothered?

Plain and simple, Coach wanted to get Tebow involved ASAP so he would not be "breaking his cherry" when it comes to an emergency situation. He will get more and more playing time as the season goes on.

strafen
09-12-2010, 11:13 PM
That was nothing more than just a sideshow. That's all that was...

SonOfLe-loLang
09-12-2010, 11:37 PM
That "package" was a waste of plays. Even my cat knew it was a run up the middle.

I assume they were setting it up for a long pass play at some point, but the flow of the game never allowed for him to get back in...it would be something to do if we were up, which we never were.

epicSocialism4tw
09-12-2010, 11:39 PM
Why would anyone be bothered?

Plain and simple, Coach wanted to get Tebow involved ASAP so he would not be "breaking his cherry" when it comes to an emergency situation. He will get more and more playing time as the season goes on.

That was pretty much it.

It was smart to do it in a game where Tebow has alot of road support and in a place where Tebow feels at home.

It made sense.

We might not see Tebow again unless Orton gets nicked.

Popps
09-13-2010, 12:15 AM
We'll see Tebow again this coming week. The running plays are obviously meant to set up other things. I was glad to see him get a couple of snaps, albeit unproductive plays. That happens sometimes in football.

broncocalijohn
09-13-2010, 02:12 AM
reading the article makes it sound like McDaniels had bad timing in the decision. Have nothing big on the opinion but Tebow has a future with this team we need to find what it is. As described, the penalty and not throwing the ball away killed that drive.

Atwater His Ass
09-13-2010, 03:41 AM
You don't always run plays to set up plays in that same game. Shanahan used to talk about setting up plays over the course of a season. Could very well be that using these early season looks with Tebow is just setting things up for some different plays later in the year.

TheReverend
09-13-2010, 06:32 AM
I didn't like it.

There were interviews with Del Rio and defenders asking how they've prepared for Tebow all week long and we did exactly what they prepared for.

You don't need to set something up when it's already set up for you and 3 games from now a deep ball from him will be "more expected" (couldn't find the right words).

Jesterhole
09-13-2010, 06:43 AM
It felt like the possible outcomes of those plays were:

Tebow gets hurt
We gain no yards
We turn the ball over

Looks like we got lucky...

Garcia Bronco
09-13-2010, 07:05 AM
I can only view Tebow in the game as a way to get him experience and to plant a seed for later. Otherwise they were wasted efforts.

Garcia Bronco
09-13-2010, 07:06 AM
You don't always run plays to set up plays in that same game. Shanahan used to talk about setting up plays over the course of a season. Could very well be that using these early season looks with Tebow is just setting things up for some different plays later in the year.

This.

Ray Finkle
09-13-2010, 07:36 AM
I thought it was smart....you get his feet wet and used to the speed of a regular season game.

Hogan11
09-13-2010, 08:44 AM
That "package" was a waste of plays. Even my cat knew it was a run up the middle.

Just once I would like to see a team...any team....pass out of that formation

Pony Boy
09-13-2010, 09:08 AM
We'll see Tebow again this coming week. The running plays are obviously meant to set up other things. I was glad to see him get a couple of snaps, albeit unproductive plays. That happens sometimes in football.

Popps, I have some swamp land you should look at....:D

TheReverend
09-13-2010, 09:10 AM
Just once I would like to see a team...any team....pass out of that formation

The Fins throw out of it a few times a year

Hogan11
09-13-2010, 02:18 PM
The Fins throw out of it a few times a year

It certainly makes sense to....at least once in awhile anyways. You'd think with Tebow, the Broncos would do it. I don't think they've even thrown the ball out of the Wild Horse formation.

Incidently, I was stuck with the Miami/Buffalo game yesterday....both teams ran it a few times, all were rushing attempts.

PRBronco
09-13-2010, 02:24 PM
The Fins throw out of it a few times a year

Man, I wanna see a jump pass so ****ing bad.

Cool Breeze
09-13-2010, 03:04 PM
It was all about "Give the people what they want"
They wanted Tebow in Jacksonville.
Now his cherry is broke.
Carry on

gunns
09-13-2010, 03:56 PM
It seemed to be a crowd pleaser, unnecessary, completely obvious. Put him in there a few times, don't use him, keep them confused. Yesterday was ridiculous.

Rigs11
09-13-2010, 03:58 PM
too funny. that dink and dunk Orton leads the NFL this week in completions over 25yards.:strong:

TheReverend
09-13-2010, 05:04 PM
It certainly makes sense to....at least once in awhile anyways. You'd think with Tebow, the Broncos would do it. I don't think they've even thrown the ball out of the Wild Horse formation.

Incidently, I was stuck with the Miami/Buffalo game yesterday....both teams ran it a few times, all were rushing attempts.

I wish they would've. Jacksonville was planning on Tebow running it all week. A quick PA fake and a deep bomb had a pretty solid shot at going for a quick score for 2 reasons:

1. They would NOT have been expecting it

2. Tim showed he's our most accurate/best deep passer.

Que
09-13-2010, 05:08 PM
I wish they would've. Jacksonville was planning on Tebow running it all week. A quick PA fake and a deep bomb had a pretty solid shot at going for a quick score for 2 reasons:

1. They would NOT have been expecting it

2. Tim showed he's our most accurate/best deep passer.

I think if the game had progressed differently we would have seen the bomb.

TheReverend
09-13-2010, 05:11 PM
I think if the game had progressed differently we would have seen the bomb.

We should've seen it on play #3 when we trotted him out at the start, imo.

Set the tempo. Shake up their DBs. Possibly score.

What's the downside? We throw a 40 yard int and they get the ball where they got it anyways? Oh no!

Hogan11
09-13-2010, 06:30 PM
I wish they would've. Jacksonville was planning on Tebow running it all week. A quick PA fake and a deep bomb had a pretty solid shot at going for a quick score for 2 reasons:

1. They would NOT have been expecting it

2. Tim showed he's our most accurate/best deep passer.

Agreed. No one is ever expecting a pass out of the Wild Horse, especially with Tebow and his running ability back there. If they do what you said above against Seattle, it should be wildly successful.

I'd like to see it attempted......at least once to take the predictability out of the thing.

broncosteven
09-13-2010, 06:38 PM
Agreed. No one is ever expecting a pass out of the Wild Horse, especially with Tebow and his running ability back there. If they do what you said above against Seattle, it should be wildly successful.

I'd like to see it attempted......at least once to take the predictability out of the thing.

I think you will see it as the season goes on. We need to extend drives and get up early though. Things this team has not done well in the last 10 games.

Hogan11
09-13-2010, 06:44 PM
I think you will see it as the season goes on.

I've never seen it.....by any team.

Rev says the Fins have done it and they probably did, but I don't ever remember seeing it. It's certainly a very rare event in any case as almost everytime a team lines up in that formation, they rush the ball.

broncosteven
09-13-2010, 06:50 PM
I've never seen it.....by any team.

Rev says the Fins have done it and they probably did, but I don't ever remember seeing it. It's certainly a very rare event in any case as almost everytime a team lines up in that formation, they rush the ball.

The fins have done it alot with Brown and the 2nd round bust who they cut already. I have seen other teams do it also, I think Hester did it with duh bears last year for an incomplete.

Hogan11
09-13-2010, 06:59 PM
The fins have done it alot with Brown and the 2nd round bust who they cut already. I have seen other teams do it also, I think Hester did it with duh bears last year for an incomplete.

Geeze, I'm totally drawing a blank on it then....I don't recall it at all.

Well, it'd still be a good thing I think to let Tebow throw out of it.