How about them Avs .........

[Hogan11]

I think the trouble with the Av's is they have ex-Sabres on the team ;D

Go Flyers!!

[alkemical]

NO hogan...

you have it the other way....

they let someone become a saber....


He is mr. clutch, and a hell of a leader......

[solipsist]

Just a quick post, have to work too much lately. The D let Aebi down, a playoff goalie should've been able to stop Damphousse's goal, but the others?? That's tough to blame a goalie, Marleau was throwing pucks like Hejduk.... I didn't see the slash either, on the 5th goal what I did see was an SJ player (Brown maybe??) charging in on Aebi and not making any effort to slow up after the puck hit the net, crashing into Aebi and knocking him ass over teakettle. I mean, there was at least 4 fast strides in a direct line on Aebi. So if there was a slash directly before or after that it won't get a suspension, because of that...

[Mtbrncofn]

That is when the slash occurred, sol. I guess I didn't see the slash part. After I saw Aebi go sprawling all over himself, I thought oh boy. I will say, that player certainly did NOT make any kind of effort to stop his progress into Aebi.

In the DPO today, it said the league would be reviewing a shoving match that Chris Gratton got into with an official in the sin bin. I didn't see that either, but if that's the case, they give no leniency on that kind of crap whatsoever.

[Mtbrncofn]

NO hogan...

you have it the other way....

they let someone become a saber....


He is mr. clutch, and a hell of a leader......


LOL...in our defense, we let him become a Flame first. I miss him.

[Pezman]

Ugh. Did last night really happen? SJ, that was brutal. Its clear that we have some serious intensity to deal with in that team. Guppies just came out smokin bro...
Props for game 1 and hopefully Saturday will be a better show by the Avs...

[orange 4 life]

i wont go back and read the five pages i missed, because it will only upset me more.

this is just one of those games that you move on from, and block it from memory.

sj, well done.

saturday is a new day.

jake

[solipsist]

It was a defensive breakdown. Period.

And come on, there were fights in the third, but they weren't dirty, there was no reason for any suspensions there. While coming out fighting at the end isn't aclass act it's far from reprehensible, the Avs needed to take something out of the game, there had been a lot of hits after the puck had been passed by SJ all night, thats part of hockey and expected, so are the occassional fight. I for one was glad that the Avs were able to get some emotion in the game besides frustration and despair. Barnaby was f*cking awesome, he's not a fighter and at one point he was dealing punches out to 2 SJ players at once, then he and Brown waved the refs off and kept going until Barnaby shirted Brown. How many times to you see that in today's game? Brown chose to keep going, let the officials know because he was hoping to hand a little back to Barnaby. I'm not saying that this sort of goonery should be going on, but it was a passionate physical game, a bit of a blowout, and to be expected. We didn't try to take runs at their superstars, and it was a series of gloves off fights eagerly engaged by both teams. And SJ did try to double team Barnaby at the beginning too.

The refs made the right call, two roughing penalties, one for Barnaby and one for Vaananen. With 1:34 left in the game they weren't going to play anymore, so they left the ice and gave the Sharks a 5 on 3 which we did a great job killing.

Didn't hear about Gratton and the box official. The officials aren't supposed to try to talk to the players and the players are supposd to either be civil to them or ignore them. Really disapointed in that more than anything, I didn't see it during the game, but taking anything out on an official is inexcuseable.

[phillybroncosnut]

New page, gotta represent..........

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bkhuntfish]

Ugh.....

I've never seen the Avs meltdown like that before in the playoffs. Getting blown out yes, but acting and playing the way they did in the late parts of the game is embarrassing for them and their fans who have always prided themselves on rooting for a classy team.

Forsberg was a freaking mad man out there, He should of had at least 2 or 3 penalties that did'nt get called. He tripped someone in the neutral zone, than tackled him as the guy got up. He got called for a tripping that after the trip he cross checked the guy right in the face. I saw him make a couple wicked slashes low ones to the hands and legs, but slashes non the less, he speared Ricci in the back with the butt of his stick on an icing call. The guy just seemed like he lost it.

On a positive note they played hard when they were down, even at 5-1. They came very close to knocking in a couple of goals early in the 3rd. You just can't overcome the awful play in the 1st and early 2nd.

I think we will come out tommorrow and win, which if we do I think we get all we could of hoped for, a split at the Tank.

[solipsist]

Foppa was out of control, but he was getting smothered by the two long hairs on that team and wasn't able to spark the plays khe normally does because of the clutching and grabbing. He also got fouled a couple of times, talked to the refs (well, yelled at them) and since nothing was done he got too angry to be the quality player that he normally is. He really was out of control out there, and that's exactly why Wilson chose to double team Foppa with both Ricci and Hannan. I can't imagine the Peter didn't tear into his teammates - he was pissed!!

As an Avs fan i'm not terribly disapointed with the first fight(s) of the third period - Boughner's was too much and they should've just called the game, but it worked out alright. That's what hockey's about. It wasn't like those guys all didn't want to fight, the fights were clean and agreed upon and gave the Avs fans something out of the game - hopefully the team as well. Somebody had to step up and salvage something out of the game. The fights were way better of a way than Forsberg driving Ricci into that buttress on the glass.

[solipsist]

Anyone who follows the Avs knows that they're going to not show up or have a breakdown at least once in the postseason. Game 1 is probably the best place to have it happen. We'll have to see how the league felt about it on Sat, when the refs either start calling sh!t early or not.

[SJ Bronco]

Im betting the refs will be getting a call from the leauge. Im thinking the next game may be called a little diffrent.

[solipsist]

I'd agree, but they did make an awesome call in giving the Sharks a 5-3 instead of just doling out fighting majors.

A brief note on Selanne. I would scratch him when Tanguay gets back, leave Hendrickson in. Selanne was playing much better at the end of the game (in the offensive zone) and got some quality shot and setups late in the game. That being said he was an absolute defensive liability, especially in the first 2 periods. Christ! How many turnovers/giveaways/just passing to a Sharks player - can one guy produce?!?! Awful, absolutely awful. Certainly does not warrant being on a line wth Joe Sakic.

[SJ Bronco]

Finally you guys are hearing me about Temu! The guy is a void!

You got to admit, SJ showed some class by not realy trying to score on that 5-3 advantage. thy just passed the puck around the perimiter. Then Ricci just left the final face off.

[Mtbrncofn]

Best news I've heard in awhile. Tang looks good to go for tomorrow.


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=81342&hubName=nhl

[Swedish Extrovert]

It was a defensive breakdown. Period.

And come on, there were fights in the third, but they weren't dirty, there was no reason for any suspensions there. While coming out fighting at the end isn't aclass act it's far from reprehensible, the Avs needed to take something out of the game, there had been a lot of hits after the puck had been passed by SJ all night, thats part of hockey and expected, so are the occassional fight. I for one was glad that the Avs were able to get some emotion in the game besides frustration and despair. Barnaby was f*cking awesome, he's not a fighter and at one point he was dealing punches out to 2 SJ players at once, then he and Brown waved the refs off and kept going until Barnaby shirted Brown. How many times to you see that in today's game? Brown chose to keep going, let the officials know because he was hoping to hand a little back to Barnaby. I'm not saying that this sort of goonery should be going on, but it was a passionate physical game, a bit of a blowout, and to be expected. We didn't try to take runs at their superstars, and it was a series of gloves off fights eagerly engaged by both teams. And SJ did try to double team Barnaby at the beginning too.

The refs made the right call, two roughing penalties, one for Barnaby and one for Vaananen. With 1:34 left in the game they weren't going to play anymore, so they left the ice and gave the Sharks a 5 on 3 which we did a great job killing.

Didn't hear about Gratton and the box official. The officials aren't supposed to try to talk to the players and the players are supposd to either be civil to them or ignore them. Really disapointed in that more than anything, I didn't see it during the game, but taking anything out on an official is inexcuseable.


But they didnt.

Two Sharks got fighting majors along with Vaananen and Barnaby.

Vaananen and Barnaby got 5minute fighting majors... along with two minute instigation minors. - an automatic ejection. A la the 5 on 3 for San Jose Vaananen and Barnaby were actually in the penalty box untill they heard abou their instigation misconducts. So they both got game misconducts. A certain quota of misconduct can lead to a suspention. If they got match penalties, then they would be suspnded indefinitley - but they clearly didnt intend to uinjure anybody.

The reason they got the misconducts was how they started the fight. It was hardly consentual. Barnaby dropped his gloves over two seconds before Smith did and started punching Smith before he dropped his gloves. If was a dirty fight. Clean fight = both face eachother, both drop gloves consentually, and well thats it.

I was worried, and I was thinking, "Barnaby, what are you doing?" A stupid idea, cause they were all clearly pissed off. That could have warranted a suspension.


On another note... Sakic, along with Luongo and St. Louis are all nominated for the Lester B. Pearson. Its a nice nomination, but St. Louis deserves it this year.

[Mtbrncofn]

St. Louis is nominated for the Hart and Lady Byng too......I'm goin with Joe! ;D

[Pezman]

Awesome. Hope to see him make an impact tomorrow. We'll need him! I just hope they show the game here in SoCal this time. Watching the Deadwings last Saturday was horrific....

[Mtbrncofn]

Aw Pez, I don't know....I love to watch the Wings lose!

[Swedish Extrovert]

St Louis is the reason the Lightning are doing so well. He deserves some kind of credit.

He tied for the Art Ross, he deserves the Hart and Lester P. Pearson... dont know botu the Byng.

[Pezman]

Even still... missing the clinching game 5 was awful. I had never missed an Avs playoff game before that. I'm sure they will show it here... Pretty sure... 80% sure... 50%... 36.212% Ah hell, I'm begging them.. please!!! Show my Avs on the crappy SoCal station please...

[Hogan11]

Gotta step in with a "Go Flyers" for this page.....:)

[Swedish Extrovert]

Philly, check your PM...

eh screw it...

-

Philly, "wtf are you talking about"

Serisouly, I'm puting up with a lot of crap from you. quit insulting me. you are the most intolerant person I have ever met.


I dont think you watch the Av's that often, you might not, but I thought you were a little more impartial. In that post I was talking about how I post on other impartial forums, and the people generally agree with me... It becomes a total hornets nest when you factor in rabid fans. I think you'll be suprised about how much I know about the sport of hockey, and how impartial I am. I am an Av's fan, but that doesent automatically make them right and everybody wrong.

Im not claiming that I know about the history of hockey as well as you... I dont, and I dont care that you started watching those Flyers of the 1977 death team.

I am familiar with them, I dont talk about them because I never followed them, but I have watched their games on ESPN classic. I watch as much hockey as I can, its what I do in my free time...

I know modern hockey though... since 3rd grade I've followed the league closely because of my obsessed teacher - Mrs Stover - she always showed up to school in Hockey jerseys, and my fondest memories of my 3rd grade class involve watching taped features of Brett Hull and Wayne Gretzky and taking notes on it. Hell, that was the year the Av's came to Colorado and she planned our geography lesson every day on whichever team was playing the Av's that week. I always got the jolly rancher because I was always the first one who could say who the av's were playing that night. If the Av's played the Blues that night, we would learn about St. Louis and the state of Missouri.

Then I did my country research project on the Czech Republic in 4th grade. The report was about 70% about hockey, and Cezh hockey players.

I was a Canucks, Flyers, and Rangers fan before the Av's came here.... Canucks cause of the time I lived in Vancouver, Flyers cause I lked the team, Rangers cause I just lked NYC. Obvously Im not to fond of the Canucks anymore.

I am the alternate captian and leftwing for the rs in the 5a Colorado league - CYHL - I led the team in points (54 in 36 games) and tied for goals (28)...

I know the sport.

You have instulted me twice - 1, when I said figure skating wasnt gay... 2, when I said Hinote was a cheap player...

1 - Figure skating is hard. I've tried it, I cant do it. Just recognize that its hard, and respect those who do it - for pursuing their dream - isnt that what America is about?

Pezman put it well ...if ifs and buts were candy and nuts... I said Worrell would be a hoss if he had skating skill. Maybe not a supreme point scorer, but if Worell could skate, he would score a lot more and play good defense, thats all I meant.

And the Brashear thing... al I meant was that he wasnt a super star. Is he the type of guy thats going to put up 70-80 points a season? No, but just like Barnaby or Domi, can be integral to a teams sucess. Brashear is slightly more talanted than a guy like Barnaby or Domi.

2. I was making the argument that Hinote was our agitator, and the he played kinda cheap. I got chewed out for it. What do you call it when Hinote pretends to fight and doesent, what about how he always leads with his elbow, or how he hits people from behind, or how he pulls guys down with him when he falls down?

The whole cheap vs. dirty.... people have different opinions on how it works. I defined the words to strengthen the argument that cheap would be doing somthing "unethical" wheras "dirty" would be like May or Ruutu, or Avery, or Kasparitias - players that make it an intent to hurt people. Hinote isnt one of those guys. Hinote is the type of guy who pulls off unnecasary (legal) hits just to agitate people.


At least I break down peoples posts and actually respond to what they say.

Jake said that I said Hinote was 'dirty' I never did so. Jake said that 'agitation' and 'cheap' arent the same thing. I agree... but they go hand in hand.

I'm sure its allowed to skip tipping a waiter at a resturaunt, but its 'cheap' and 'unethical'... thats Hinote for you. There are times when you are allowed to hit and guy, but it isnt necessary. Hinote does that. Thats the role of the agitator. That is why they go hand in hand.

Foote and Barnaby do it too... they strech the rules as much as possible to get away with as much as possible.

Holy God, at least I explain myself, which almost everybody here refuses to do.

Im not saying that you dont, but I wish you would at least have an open mind and not assume your self-righetousness so fast. Your opinion will not change, and I respect that, but you - everybody here - must realize that other people have opinions too.

So what say you?

I say we barbeque the beef between us and eat it down with a couple of Coors.

We dont have to like eachother, but we will respect eachother.

[Mtbrncofn]

I thought all this was over with?

[Mtbrncofn]

Geez, the Bulin Wall has been pretty damn good this playoff year. Looks like another stellar game for him tonight. The Habs are getting spanked.

[SJ Bronco]

Bump the sharks playoff thread? Ehehehehehe, Hey, Im telling you guys ahead of time, Win or lose, I probably wont post until sunday morning so don't think I shaded out after a loss if we lose.

[Swedish Extrovert]

I thought it was a series bet.

[SJ Bronco]

Im talking about the game, not the bet smurf.

[Pezman]

K now that we got our pick in... LETS GO AVS!!!

[SJ Bronco]

that pick sucked, but i've ben wrong before....oh well, go sharks.

[Pezman]

Scooooooooooooooooore!

[solipsist]

Barnaby dropped his gloves over two seconds before Smith did and started punching Smith before he dropped his gloves. If was a dirty fight. Clean fight = both face eachother, both drop gloves consentually, and well thats it.



I'll agree that a clean fight is started that way, but I don't think Barnaby's was dirty, he was tasking on two Shark's players that were roughing him up some, he took it back to him. They tried to let him draw a penalty and then decided to join in. When the ref's were comingin the break it up, Barnaby waived them off and his opponent did the same. There's no way you're going to get a suspension for that. You could make an argument for Baranby taking it too far, but he was getting double teamed on some roughing and decided to take it back to them and get his team excited in the process. I don't want my team to bea bunch of goons, but that was about all the Avs can walk away from Game 1 smiling about. Game 2 will be very different. As it already has started to be.

[solipsist]

Goddamnit! the radio announcers are calling the second no-goal call a total travesty, did anybody see it?? Those guys are pretty unequivical in saying that it was a terrible call...

[solipsist]

Damn I hate not being able to see the game.......

[Pezman]

It was a bad call, and worse, giving the PP to the guppies made it worse. This game is clearly a warzone and I'd be stunned to see us be able to open it up for more than a second. Why do I get the feeling this one is going to OT?

Ugh... Guppies score

[solipsist]

How can we be leaving Marleau alone all the f*cking time?? He needs to have foote glue to him.

The refs absolutely need to be talked to by the front office about this one, in a 1-1 tie make a quick call on something you obviously didn't see wel land disallowing a goal is just inexcuseable. I kunderstand the emphasis on protecting goalies from too much, but damnit, the radio guys were saying that the puck was in the net.

I can handle losing to a team out playing us, i can swallow bad luck, but bad officiating is something that has needed to be addressed for way way too long.

[Swedish Extrovert]

I hate the Sharks now. Used to respect them, but after what they're doind to our Stars, they have no respect. Thats fine... but that SJ goal was on a power play that shouldent have been. That should have been a goal by Forsberg... Tanguay was pushed into the crease, ther were two Sharks doubling up on Forsberg. No way in hell is that interferance. I say we dress Worrell for the next game.

[solipsist]

Damnit I can't see the f*cking game. Who was the ref that blew the call? their specifically (I think) not saying...

damnit, have to go help out with the damned non-hockey party...BBL

[Mtbrncofn]

Honestly, I think the refs made the right call on the Foppa goal. It was clearly shoved in by his hand, at least on the replays I saw.

This game absolutely sucked. I cannot believe we are down 2 now. They are getting damn rough out there. Aebi and Foppa are losing their tempers ( rightfully so ) and gonna be getting in some big trouble if they aren't careful. Letting them have 7 PP's is not the way to win. Ridiculous, sh!t hockey there. Does anyone know what happened to our D? They seem to have disappeared, as has our PP. As usual, when things start to go bad, Granato makes them worse by starting his line shuffling crap.

The Sharks are moving up on the dislike list really quickly for me.

I was kinda surprised on the Teemu benching. I didn't think they'd actually do it in the playoffs. Something's gotta give. Where's CO? He's always logical and calm. I need some calming down right now.

[Clockwork Orange]

Not much analysis needed for this one, the Avs got outworked, outhustled and ultimately outplayed. They had chances in the 3rd but Kono hits a post, Hejduk waits too long and gets nothing on a 1 on 1 with the goaltender, Blake misses the net twice on golden chances and Sakic shoots the puck back into Nabakov when the entire top half of the net was empty.

You have to take advantage of your chances when you get them. San Jose did, the Avs didn't and the 2-0 series defecit is appropriate considering how poorly the Avs have played and how well the Sharks have played.

Back to home ice, it's ugly, but it's far from over.

[FADERPROOF]

well, hopefully there is an NHL next year so the Avs can come back and win it.

[Pezman]

So, how bout them Nuggets?
Ugh. Not a fun afternoon...

[Swedish Extrovert]

They made the right call on the first Forsberg goal... but not on the second AND the Sharks scored on the ensuing powerplay. That was the kicker.

San Jose got away with murder that whole game.

[Mtbrncofn]

Geez, the Flyers are getting all the breaks. Not only is Mats Sundin expected to be gone for the whole series, now Joey Nieuwendyk is out tomorrow too.

I'm grouchy.

Once again, the game turned on one of those last minute goals. Why can't we ever get those? Granato is probably out there wrestling with himself on who to start next game. I will $hit if he decides to start Salo. I didn't think Aebi did that badly. He did make some damn good saves.

[phillybroncosnut]

Geez, the Flyers are getting all the breaks. Not only is Mats Sundin expected to be gone for the whole series, now Joey Nieuwendyk is out tomorrow too.

I'm grouchy.

Once again, the game turned on one of those last minute goals. Why can't we ever get those? Granato is probably out there wrestling with himself on who to start next game. I will $hit if he decides to start Salo. I didn't think Aebi did that badly. He did make some damn good saves.


BEAUTIFUL! Old folks, gotta love em! Is Nolan still out?

[Mtbrncofn]

I think so. Why can't this kind of stuff happen to the Red Wings?

[phillybroncosnut]

Do you have a link about those injuries MT? The Make Beliefs web site is saying that Sundin skated today and will try to go tomorrow.

[phillybroncosnut]

New Page:

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mtbrncofn]

Do you have a link about those injuries MT? The Make Beliefs web site is saying that Sundin skated today and will try to go tomorrow.


I'm checking. I read it on TSN. The Sundin part:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=81384

The Joey N part:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=81454

[orange 4 life]

im just sick to death guys.

what a complete two game meltdown.

i really have nothing to say about it, other than it sickens me to watch.

sj, youre looking good buddy.
i havent given up yet, but im about as irritated as it gets.

ill talk to you all monday.

jake

[phillybroncosnut]

Tell me something all you AV's fans. Will this thread be dead if the AV's get bounced, or will y'all still watch and post your feelings. This will suck if I'm the only one here. I talk to myself enough, I'd start to get concerned If I start typing to myself.

[Mtbrncofn]

Nah, as pissed as I will be, I always watch the whole playoffs. I love hockey, period. And I think the Stanley Cup playoffs are the best thing in sports to watch.

[Mtbrncofn]

im just sick to death guys.

what a complete two game meltdown.

i really have nothing to say about it, other than it sickens me to watch.

sj, youre looking good buddy.
i havent given up yet, but im about as irritated as it gets.

ill talk to you all monday.

jake


Jake...I know what happened. Remember when you said you'd be cocky enough for both of us? It came back to bite us in the ass. I hear ya, I'm past irritated. I moved on to flat out bitchiness. Everyone in my house is suggesting that I go out and do something. Odd, huh?

[Swedish Extrovert]

The Av's will win their next 3 games.

[Mtbrncofn]

I hope you're right, but just out of curiosity, why do you say that?

[SJ Bronco]

go flyers? hehehe, we gotta win one in denver or this will get ugly quick! if we dropp two in denver, we'll lose this series.

[SJ Bronco]

<bump> Can't believe this thread died so quickly.

[Mtbrncofn]

No dying here.....it'll start back up when the Flyers/Leafs game is over, and for sure tomorrow night when we get home and find our game. ( At least, that's how I'm hoping it will turn out. )

[Mtbrncofn]

I think I underestimated the Lightning. They are playing very hot right now. Vinny Lecavalier has started that series off with a bang. Plus Khabibulin is pretty much a wall these days. I feel sorry for whoever gets them next, they are gonna be tough.

Wow.....locked out NHL would not compete in the 06 Olympics.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=1789524

[SJ Bronco]

Go flyers

1-0 flyers, didn't know they were playing right now. Eastern time zone always gets me. You'd think I'd be used to everything on ESPN being eastern time by now.

[Swedish Extrovert]

I'll agree that a clean fight is started that way, but I don't think Barnaby's was dirty, he was tasking on two Shark's players that were roughing him up some, he took it back to him. They tried to let him draw a penalty and then decided to join in. When the ref's were comingin the break it up, Barnaby waived them off and his opponent did the same. There's no way you're going to get a suspension for that. You could make an argument for Baranby taking it too far, but he was getting double teamed on some roughing and decided to take it back to them and get his team excited in the process. I don't want my team to bea bunch of goons, but that was about all the Avs can walk away from Game 1 smiling about. Game 2 will be very different. As it already has started to be.


You seem to know more about Hockey then me, so I'll just ask you. If it was a clean fight, then why did they give an additional instigation minor, and a game misconduct penalty to Barnaby?

Oh well it's over.

I still think the Av's will sweep the home series and take it to the house for game 6.

[SJ Bronco]

Forgive me if I hope there isn't a game 6.....

[Mtbrncofn]

I dont even want to FATHOM that idea. No offense, SJ.

[SJ Bronco]

Wifes in controll of remote right now, whats the score of the flyers game.

[Hogan11]

Wifes in controll of remote right now, whats the score of the flyers game.

Good Guys won.....GO FLYERS!!

[phillybroncosnut]

Phuck Belfour! Phuck McCabe, Phuck Domi, Phuck Toranto entirely!

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!

[phillybroncosnut]

I think I underestimated the Lightning. They are playing very hot right now. Vinny Lecavalier has started that series off with a bang. Plus Khabibulin is pretty much a wall these days. I feel sorry for whoever gets them next, they are gonna be tough.

Wow.....locked out NHL would not compete in the 06 Olympics.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=1789524

Tampa's GAY!

They have had a cake walk so far in the playoffs. The Isle's then the Habs? Please. We could have just given them 2 bye's.
Wait till the play a real team.
It's a joke anyway that going into that series, either the Habs or Lightning would be going to the Eastern conference finals.

[Mtbrncofn]

Oh we shall see.

[phillybroncosnut]

Oh we shall see.


You're gawd damn right you will! :militia:

[Swedish Extrovert]

Tampa's stupid... Tamps overrated.... Tampas ridiculas...

Yea, Tampas 'gay' that Lightning Bolt goes around and rapes men Uhh I thought they were pro athletes that are dedicaited at their field and the best at whta they do.

Their the first seed, so we shall see.

[phillybroncosnut]

Tampa's stupid... Tamps overrated.... Tampas ridiculas...

Yea, Tampas 'gay' that Lightning Bolt goes around and rapes men Uhh I thought they were pro athletes that are dedicaited at their field and the best at whta they do.

Their the first seed, so we shall see.


Yikes! Smurf has issues!

[phillybroncosnut]

Hockey crowd chant

Robert's better! Robert's better! Robert's better! Robert's better! Robert's better! Robert's better!

[Mtbrncofn]

Tampa's GAY!

They have had a cake walk so far in the playoffs. The Isle's then the Habs? Please. We could have just given them 2 bye's.
Wait till the play a real team.
It's a joke anyway that going into that series, either the Habs or Lightning would be going to the Eastern conference finals.



Uh....byes, huh? Who was it that said Tampa wouldn't make it past the Isles? Oh that's right, it was YOU!

[Hogan11]

The Flyers will take care of the Bolts...no worries. Outside of that second period tonight (only 1 SOG?!? WTF?) I've had no worries about the Maple Briefs being taken care of in short order.

The Bullies are grabbing the Cup this year...bank on it!

[phillybroncosnut]

Uh....byes, huh? Who was it that said Tampa wouldn't make it past the Isles? Oh that's right, it was YOU!


I did say that. The Isle's came up small. I also said neither the Habs nor the Ning would get past the second round. I'll be wrong with one of them. I didn't foresee them squaring off in round 2.
Hell, I'm a baseball guy. With that average (.333) I am a Hall of famer!

If you're wrong, spin, spin, spin!

[phillybroncosnut]

The Flyers will take care of the Bolts...no worries. Outside of that second period tonight (only 1 SOG?!? WTF?) I've had no worries about the Maple Briefs being taken care of in short order.

The Bullies are grabbing the Cup this year...bank on it!

Preach on Brother Hogan!

[Swedish Extrovert]

I have issues? Im not the one using gay as an adjective. So many choices for words, you choose 'gay'... you either have the tolerance of a KKK or the inteligence/maturity of a junior higher.

[Mtbrncofn]

Great....now see what you did, Philly? You got Smurf started on the gay stuff again. Good job...;)

[phillybroncosnut]

I have issues? Im not the one using gay as an adjective. So many choices for words, you choose 'gay'... you either have the tolerance of a KKK or the inteligence/maturity of a junior higher.

rofl :wave: :welcome: Hilarious!

You're so witty Smurf. Did you just call me a "junior higher"? LMAO! I can't compete with that. You win

[phillybroncosnut]

Great....now see what you did, Philly? You got Smurf started on the gay stuff again. Good job...;)


What can I say, he loves the subject. I can't help it if he is a magnet to the word "gay". That's his issue, not mine!

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Swedish Extrovert]

Who said I was trying to be clever? Clever like calling a team gay?

[Mtbrncofn]

And SJ thought this thread was dead.

[phillybroncosnut]

Who said I was trying to be clever? Clever like calling a team gay?


Hey, little smurfy, I concided. You win the arguement. I'm a "junior higher" (still LMAO on that one). Now, be happy. You won. Now, shut the phuck up.

[Swedish Extrovert]

You're right Philly, my dad had to take me to New Orleans to get the gay out of me. :giggle:

Its just incredibly stupid to use terms liek 'fag' 'gay' or 'retarded' to describe words that arent.

[phillybroncosnut]

LET"S GO FLYER'S (do do do do do), LET'S GO FLYERS (do do do do do), LET'S GO FLYERS

[Hogan11]

Preach on Brother Hogan!

You know it Philly....did you go to the game??

[phillybroncosnut]

Who's the dork in the middle of the call girls?

[Mtbrncofn]

What the hell is the pic all about, Smurf?

[phillybroncosnut]

You know it Philly....did you go to the game??

Nah, me and my brother split the playoffs. He has this one. We are going to all the games together, but we said we would each pick a game to take our son's. He got this one, I get the next.

[phillybroncosnut]

Smurf is like a puppy that won't quit barking. So freaking annoying but to young to kick the piss out of.

[Mtbrncofn]

Come on now, Smurf....you can't tell me you've never called something or someone retarded that wasn't.

Falling from the high horse can cause a lot of damage. ;D

[Hogan11]

Nah, me and my brother split the playoffs. He has this one. We are going to all the games together, but we said we would each pick a game to take our son's. He got this one, I get the next.

Cool enough....Lets GO FLYERS!!

[Swedish Extrovert]

**** you. Of course I have, I called things gay all the time in 8th grade. Its more than just that, in Philly's mind every thing he doesent like just isnt worth existing. Why dont you just give the stanley cup to Philly right now, cause if the Flyers dont win it, they should have because everyone else is GAY.

[phillybroncosnut]

damn. Why would you say phuck you to a lady?

That aint right

[Mtbrncofn]

Whoa there boy! Can't you take a little good natured ribbing? You posted that like you'd never been guilty of it before in your life, and I found that a bit hypocritical.

Calm down.....geez

[phillybroncosnut]

**** you. Of course I have, I called things gay all the time in 8th grade. Its more than just that, in Philly's mind every thing he doesent like just isnt worth existing. Why dont you just give the stanley cup to Philly right now, cause if the Flyers dont win it, they should have because everyone else is GAY.


Silly young child. I agree with you though. they should just hand the cup to the flyers now!
They'll have to soon anyway. Why risk injuries to other players?

[phillybroncosnut]

**** you. Of course I have, I called things gay all the time in 8th grade. Its more than just that, in Philly's mind every thing he doesent like just isnt worth existing. Why dont you just give the stanley cup to Philly right now, cause if the Flyers dont win it, they should have because everyone else is GAY.


Mommy ought to spank your bottom for that outburst young man. Always respect a women!

[phillybroncosnut]

Phuck dat!

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!

Some lil homo aint gonna bring me down. Belfour is a b!tch!

[SJ Bronco]

I must agree, belfore is a bitch. And the flyers are the big well hung dog. Heheheeh, Go flyers....(Karma seems to be working.)

[Mtbrncofn]

SJ, its karma not sticking your nose up the Flyers asses. ROFL! All that's required is Go Flyers once in awhile.

(I hope you know I am teasing you. )

[SJ Bronco]

Nose firmly in ass of Flyers. (i'll do anything for a series win, ANYTHING!)

BTW- I will stand corrected, this thread didn't go dead, it went GAY! ;)

[Mtbrncofn]

LOL....Honesty is the best policy, SJ!

[phillybroncosnut]

Nose firmly in ass of Flyers. (i'll do anything for a series win, ANYTHING!)

BTW- I will stand corrected, this thread didn't go dead, it went GAY! ;)

Be careful, the queen of this thread, "Queen smurf" will PC you to death when he reads your post.

GO FLYERS!

[Mtbrncofn]

ROFL! ROFL! ROFL!

[Pezman]

im just sick to death guys.

what a complete two game meltdown.

i really have nothing to say about it, other than it sickens me to watch.

sj, youre looking good buddy.
i havent given up yet, but im about as irritated as it gets.

ill talk to you all monday.

jake
Jake, I feel your pain! We'll take back this series starting today! Grrrrr. SJ be sure to bring that guppies banner home with you after these next two! Its on again bro!

And if somehow we lose... well, you'll know me... I'll be the one off in the corner crying and moaning come the next round. Just look for the broken man whos very dreams have been crushed by a teal colored NoCal team....

[Clockwork Orange]

Not worried yet, the players certainly aren't worried. I saw interviews with Sakic, Forsberg & Blake on the news tonight and all of them said the same thing. Simply, we have to play better.

The reason I'm not worried it because I know for certain that they can play better.

This is a group that knows what it takes to win, they also know that if they go down 3-0 tomorrow night the series is over. So I expect to see a completely different Avalanche team tomorrow night.

It should also be noted that the Avalanche played their best hockey at home in the 1st round and were considerably less sharp on the road. If that holds true to form, expect to see this series head back to San Jose tied at 2-2.

Keep the faith.

[SJ Bronco]

I have a question, if patrick dropps a hat trick in CO will they still throw hats?

[Pezman]

You know, if it was a Detroit player, I'm not certain they would but I suspect there would be a few SJ. Denver is a smart hockey town. Now if it was game 7, I bet not...

[SJ Bronco]

I know if an Avs player did it in SJ I would. But thats just me...

[orange 4 life]

Jake...I know what happened. Remember when you said you'd be cocky enough for both of us? It came back to bite us in the ass. I hear ya, I'm past irritated. I moved on to flat out bitchiness. Everyone in my house is suggesting that I go out and do something. Odd, huh?

ill take the heat, since im the one with the mouth.

ive tried the diplomatic approach in the past and got nowhere, so i figured this year i'd be all confidence.

....i still am.

avs in 6

i have no "quit" in me, i hope we can say the same for the team.

jake

[phillybroncosnut]

go Flyers!!!!!!!!!

[Spider]

ill take the heat, since im the one with the mouth.

ive tried the diplomatic approach in the past and got nowhere, so i figured this year i'd be all confidence.

....i still am.

avs in 6

i have no "quit" in me, i hope we can say the same for the team.

jake
Same here Bro ......... We can still win this ....... I couldnt believe those Games though .... Forsburg has a bullseye on him and the refs just let it go ......

[orange 4 life]

I know if an Avs player did it in SJ I would. But thats just me...

no, i sure as hell wouldnt.
but then again, i wasnt celebrating and throwing anything on the field when gannon completed 400 passes in a row against the broncos either.

...but thats just me.

jake

[Pezman]

I feel the good karma kicking in. We will turn this series around starting tonight. Even if I have to sacrifice a live chicken! Jobu!

http://clevelandkennelclub.com/lounge/gobbo/joboo6.jpg

[SJ Bronco]

Raiders are diffrent. I think in Hockey a hat trick is cool to see, its like when the opposing pitcher throws a no hit against your team, you still applaud. Or like last year i went to Pac bell to watch the A's Vs Giants and Eric Burns hit for the Cycle and the giants fans gave him a standing O.

[Hogan11]

New page...gotta represent GO FLYERS!!

[SJ Bronco]

As Eddie Harris (Chelcie Ross) would say- "Up your butt JOBU!"

[orange 4 life]

Raiders are diffrent. I think in Hockey a hat trick is cool to see, its like when the opposing pitcher throws a no hit against your team, you still applaud. Or like last year i went to Pac bell to watch the A's Vs Giants and Eric Burns hit for the Cycle and the giants fans gave him a standing O.

i do agree with this sj, though playoff hockey is entirely too passionate to react that way AT THE TIME.
of course, the respect for the achievement would be there, but i'd be so pissed off about the avs losing i wouldnt exactly appreciate an opposing player having a great game at the expense of me and my team.

in other words, there's a BIG difference between a san jose player having a hat trick in a 2 games to none playoff series than a giants pitcher throwing a nono against the 30-50 last place rockies.

jake

[SJ Bronco]

True

[bronco militia]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=560&type=profile&dateline=1082952958

Anyone need a hat, We got plenty of extras!

no offense to smurf, but this is GAY! ;D

:boxing:
GO AVS!!!!!!!!!

[Mtbrncofn]

Raiders are diffrent. I think in Hockey a hat trick is cool to see, its like when the opposing pitcher throws a no hit against your team, you still applaud. Or like last year i went to Pac bell to watch the A's Vs Giants and Eric Burns hit for the Cycle and the giants fans gave him a standing O.


Yeah, a hat trick is cool. But its also very uncool when one gets scored on YOUR goalie. They lose some of their coolness then. To answer the question...no, I would never throw a hat for anyone but a player on my team.

( I reserve the right to amend that statement somewhere down the road if need be. )

[Mtbrncofn]

We need our own damn mojo now. Philly and Hogan keeping Flyer-ing up our pages. We need to do it ourselves. We need all the help we can get.


GO AVS! GO AVS! GO AVS!

[SJ Bronco]

What, you guys don't like my Pat/hat trick sig? Why on earth not? ;)

Go Sharks, Go Flyers (until round two)

[SJ Bronco]

Errrr, round three, sorry...my math is slipping....

[SJ Bronco]

You know what scares me the most about tonight, besides the fact that the giant is sleeping no more and is on thier home ice of course, the fact that we had about 10 sloppy line changes. One turned into a gaol for the Avs, and two more were great saves by Nabby. We can't make those mistakes in Denver and think we are gonna get away with a win. I hope thats all we worked on all day sunday.

[Ugly man]

Same here Bro ......... We can still win this ....... I couldnt believe those Games though .... Forsburg has a bullseye on him and the refs just let it go ......

First off...the Avs are losing because they're breaking down defensively left and right. Also, they're not moving their feet, and they're sloppy. The Sharks have shown that if you want to watch them play they're more than happy to bury you.

I've come to expect people to get away with more when they're checking Forsberg. It's nothing new...it's been going on for a long time. Perhaps the refs feel he needs to play with a handicap. It's frusturating to watch. What really has me concerned, however, is how the officials are letting the Sharks run Aebischer. How many times have you seen Abby beating a Shark player on top of him about the head trying to get him off. I know there's been at least one in each game. All while the Ref looks on. I'm sure the argument is that the dude was puched into Abby by an Avs player. That doesn't matter. The offensive player must make EVERY effort to get out of the crease, and untangled with the goalie. It's hasn't happend that way so far. I was totally shocked when Peter got called for goalie interference...not only had a Sharks player crashed the left side of the crease...causing a huge bottleneck...but Forsberg had control of the fvcking puck. That is the first time I can remember an offensive player in control of the puck...being called for interference.

Listening to Pang try to rationalize the call was hilarious.

[SJ Bronco]

Funny, cause Im noticeing how many times the Avs are getting away with interference in front of the net. i guess its what color the lenses are on your ref glasses.

[orange 4 life]

Errrr, round three, sorry...my math is slipping....

no problem.
we understand you arent used to being in round three, and probably wont be this year despite the 2-0 lead, so we understand that come playoff time you cant count past one or two. !Booya!

jake

[Pezman]

Is very bad to diss Jobu! Is very bad!

[Ugly man]

Funny, cause Im noticeing how many times the Avs are getting away with interference in front of the net. i guess its what color the lenses are on your ref glasses.

The Avs have repeatedly crashed into Nabokov in the crease...taking him off of his feet...with no whistle? I don't recall seeing that.

Perhaps you're right...I'll have to watch a bit closer.

[orange 4 life]

Is very bad to diss Jobu! Is very bad!

well pez, if jobu no help me now, i say phuck you jobu!! ??? ;D

[Pezman]

LOL Jake, I could quote that movie word for word... pretty sad really!

[Pezman]

"Remember, fans, Wednesday is Die Hard Night. Free admission for anyone who was actually alive the last time the Sharks won the cup."

"Come on Nabokov, get in front of the damn Puck! Don't give me this "ole" bullsh*t! "

LETS GO AVS!!!!!

[SJ Bronco]

are you saying jesus christ can't stop a slap shot??? LOL

[SJ Bronco]

no problem.
we understand you arent used to being in round three, and probably wont be this year despite the 2-0 lead, so we understand that come playoff time you cant count past one or two.

You think your bing harsh, but its true, we can't seem to make that leap, wich is why you shouldn't expect the sharks to be sitting on thier lead, cause the fans sure won't! The away party is kicking up downtown, I can't go though, I gotta watch my daughter, but we will be seeing the whole thing on homer broadcast!

[SJ Bronco]

Damn! Thornton! We can't afford to lose him!!!!

[Hogan11]

LETS GO FLYERS!!!!

Time to "Put on the foil!"

[SJ Bronco]

Avs Look good so far. too good, I think they'll win this one. that ice looks real fast out there!

[SJ Bronco]

Man, we are looking tired, i think that mile high air is getting to us.

[bpc]

We are getting killed in faceoffs in this game. Huge disadvantage for us, I'm used to see Colorado win the majority of those things. Totally affects the rhythem of the offense if you can't get control of the puck.

The longer this stays scoreless, the more it benefits SJ. Blakes gone with an injury... thats not good. Ugh... Selanne and Liles are playing horrible right now. Liles, I wish you could take just one pass and keep it on your stick instead of letting it fumble around and letting the defense get up on you during the power play. Seriously pissing me off. The Avs are backed up on the cliff right now... they need this game.

[SJ Bronco]

Our big play guys are napping, Marleau just fanned that set up at the point and cheechoo has missed two wide open oppertunities at the front. Blake was a big loss though. We lost one of best set up men though, so our scoring is hurt too.

[SJ Bronco]

I know you guys can't hear this, but our home broadcast announcers led by drew remenda are showing the broken glass comming down in slow motion and showing the rink attendant getting showered with glass and calling him a real playoff rink attendant. Its hilarous. They said that the tank attendants would have finished faster. LOL

[SJ Bronco]

That last penalty for holding was stupid, im glad we didn't score on that bullshyt in a way.

[bpc]

ZZZZZzzzzz... credit to San Jose is doing exactly what they want. Causing turnovers and making fans fall asleep. Nothing is smooth for our offense. Its so jerky that we can't keep consistant pressure on Nabokov. Credit to the Sharks, they have definately suprised me.

[bpc]

Here comes the line jumping trying to get something started... great.

I would really like to see a Tanguay, Hejduk, Sakic, or Forsberg sighting. Kariya would be nice to have in a game like this.

[Mtbrncofn]

I'm gettin worried....I hate these long scoreless affairs. They never favor us.


Awesome avatar, bpc!

[SJ Bronco]

We arn't good at these long scoreless ties either, but we are good at LOW scoreing games that arn't scoreless and we are good at holding small leads, as well as being good at overtime, but the Avs are better in overtime.

[SJ Bronco]

The Avs are getting good pressure and MUCH better shots in tis period thus far.

[SJ Bronco]

Nabbys doing a good job of holding rebounds to a minimum.

[SJ Bronco]

The Avs have almost DOUBLE the shots on goal that we do! holy crap!

[SJ Bronco]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!!!!!!!

I can't believe we accualy scored!

[SJ Bronco]

Hedeuk (sp) can realy skate! That guy is quick! WOW!

[SJ Bronco]

Temu botched that op. He was wide open, you should have benched him again, he blows.

[bpc]

We're getting outplayed in every phase of the game. WE'VE BEEN OUTCOACHED in this whole series.

Bye bye Grenato. Hello Joel Quinville.

We still got a 1:28 but all thats left is the congrats. Definately not the series I thought this would be. Kinda wish the Nucks would have made it to round 2. Oh well, there goes my Avs in Six prediction.

Ugh... Go Nuggets.

[Pezman]

Ugh... good night now....

[bpc]

What a play by Cheechoo. Colorado... once again the best talent and no heart.

For all the aquisitions that we've made... we still have never found a dominant coach that can solve an opposing coaches riddles for our offense.

Shame on the our defense for not helping Aerbisher when he had a really good game tonight. He actually looked good. Now its all about growth with Aebi. Can't realistically think about moving on anymore. Hopefully we can just take it one game at a time and steal a few to make it respectable.

[Pezman]

Well SJ, barring the impossible, you've got to be pretty geeked up by that performance. They have just shut us down all series. So long Jake sig... I'll miss ya...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

What a joke.

[SJ Bronco]

I never dreamed we'd be up 3-0, but as happy as I am about that, that Av's have the talent to win four in a row.

[Clockwork Orange]

3-0, this series is over.

Nabakov stole one tonight as all teams need their goaltenders to do from time to time.

I'm not taking any credit away from San Jose or Nabakov, but the way the officials are protecting Nabakov while failing to protect Aebischer is having a profound impact on this series. The Avalanche look hesitant to crash the net, I can count how many times there was anyone in deep on Nabakov in this game on one hand. The tone was set early in the game when they made that bull**** call on Forsberg for goalie interference.....and then failed to make the same call at the other end in the 3rd period when a Shark player bulled into Aebischer.

A goalies life gets a lot easier when the traffic in front of him is limited and that's been the effect of the calls. It's ridiculous, but the Avalanche have to overcome it and find a way to get it done. They haven't and now all they can really hope for is to avoid a sweep.

San Jose was the better team in the first 2 games, tonight they had the better goaltender which is all you need some nights. Kudos to Nabby and the rest of the Sharks, it looks like their ticket to the Conference Finals is just about punched.

[bpc]

Nice way to be prepared for anything SJ... we aren't winning 4 in a row, not with the way Nabokov and your defense is playing. They are all over us. Credit goes to the SJ coaching staff who clearly know how to coach in the NHL... Grenato would have a hard time outcoaching a high school coach, let alone an NHL one. Its all about adjustments and either our coaches aren't making them, they are but are not teaching it well, or the players just aren't executing. Honestly, I'll attribute all of those reasons to why we are playing so badly... and then there is the super hot Sharks... they aren't helping.

[Mtbrncofn]

I am a sore loser. I don't want a Sharks sig damnit. I can't believe this is happening. GraNOTagoodcoacho ( as Tred would say ) is history.

What the hell did we do to make the officials hate our team so much. We had sh!tty officiating in the last series, same this series.

Absolutely disgusting.

[SJ Bronco]

I think we won the first two, and stole that one. Ebbby played a great game, that one banked off his back wasn't all his fault, I mean a guy should never get two point blank shots off without getting touched. I honestly think the Avs can win four in a row, In fact, I was afraid if we lost this game the Avs would. We also suffered a few key injuries in the middle of the third most prominate of wich was the injury to Ricci. Time will tell how bad the injury is, but without Ricci, there is no point in moving on. He's our catalist.

[Boogerboots]

Looks like Granato will be joining Jacques "Strap" Martin in the NHL coaches unemployment line. The sharks are a good team and have a legitimate shot at getting to the Silver Cup Series... but Granato had to show a better effort when equipped with an all-star lineup.

[SJ Bronco]

I think your being hard on granato. Only a little. But I think wilson has turned up to be a great one out of nowhere.

[Clockwork Orange]

Wilson hasn't come out of nowhere, he took Washington to the Stanley Cup Finals in 1998.

He always has been a pretty good coach, now it looks as though he's got a team that buys into his system and philosophy 100%.

On the flip side, Granato has no system or philosophy. He juggles lines and opens the door, that's about it. He might as well start cleaning out his office, the writing is on the wall.

Lacroix won Cups with unproven coaches in the past, but it looks as though he went to the well once too often and it bit him. A 1st round exit and a 99.999999% certain 2nd round exit is unacceptable and Granato will be axed.

Hopefully they've got Joel Quenneville on speed dial.

[phillybroncosnut]

go Flyers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mtbrncofn]

SJ, buddy...after reading your posts, you are making me feel bad! You are being very gracious, and I for one, appreciate it. Graceful losing is not a strong point of mine.

I think you have more confidence in the Avs than any of us do.

[SJ Bronco]

I don't think I ever thought of him as being a master stratagist though, and he's had a great gameplan for both teams in the playoffs. I love this blue collar hockey approach. It suits my views. I still think the Avs had a decent plan in this game, they sure had a hell of alot more shots on goal then we did, but I think we ravened them. We D up, get a few lucky breaks, then eek across a late score to win bya nose. I just thought the Avs would be more intense. They don't seem to care (sept forsburg and barnaby) and they looked even more tired than us, and thats saying alot, that altitude looked like it was kicking our ass out there.

[SJ Bronco]

Im not being gracious, im being scared. Too much fire power and not enough goals for the Avs, wich makes me think they are about to go ape on us. You can only keep a bomb from serving its purpose for a while. Eventualy, it always explodes.

Besides, its all just for fun. Sharks fan and Raider fan are not the same guy. In fact, I think most of go to the tank because its the only place in town raider fan has tagged with graffiti.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Looks like Granato will be joining Jacques "Strap" Martin in the NHL coaches unemployment line. The sharks are a good team and have a legitimate shot at getting to the Silver Cup Series... but Granato had to show a better effort when equipped with an all-star lineup.

They'll all probably be unemployed next year so at least we won't have to worry about BS goalie interference calls then. If they're going to fricking call them you have to do it both ways!!

[SJ Bronco]

no matter what happens though, were all still broncos fans, and thats thicker than ice. One word of advise for the Avs, win or lose, I'd send Temu to the free agents list and let him cost someone else a playoff series. :thumbs:

[phillybroncosnut]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Sharks have one hell of a team. They play as a team and not 5 individuals on the ice (unfortuanately for AV's fans, this is how the AV's have looked).
They made the Flyers look flat out silly in their own house in the reg season (can't remember how the first one between the Flyers and sharks ended, do you SJ? wink wink).
Sharks could definately come out of the WEST

[SJ Bronco]

We laid a smack down on the wings this season once too, so as much as they scare me, I'm not realy afraid of them.

BTW-Philly, you should be feelin' good about tommorow now.

[SJ Bronco]

Im still looking for injury news but the Sharks have said that they arn't talking about injuries so if anyone hears anything, let me know.

[phillybroncosnut]

We laid a smack down on the wings this season once too, so as much as they scare me, I'm not realy afraid of them.

BTW-Philly, you should be feelin' good about tommorow now.

Absolutely! Without a doubt!

[SJ Bronco]

I'm a firm believer in "it aint over till the fat lay sings" and i havn't seen warren sapp warming up yet! ;)

[Mtbrncofn]

There's no way Kariya or Selanne will be back anyway. Good riddance. I've never been so excited about signings, and then so damn disappointed.

Hell, there probably won't even be hockey next year. One of the reasons getting knocked out of the playoffs this year will hurt so bad is because this may be the last time we get to see Forsberg play in the NHL. He'll go home and play for MoDo and never come back. Now that is a somber thought.

[SJ Bronco]

Im out of the loop. Something wrong with the collective bargining agreement in the NHL?

[Mtbrncofn]

You are kidding me, right, SJ? Hell yes, there's something wrong. I'll be shocked if they get it worked out. We better hope our Broncos go really far in the playoffs, cuz I don't think there's gonna be hockey next year.

[SJ Bronco]

Im not up on financial matters much. thats why I stay away from cap discussions. I skip over that kinda news, so yeah, im out of the loop. What's the squabble about? I hate when these guys go on strike, I think its stupid to hold the fans hostage cause these guys can't work out a new agreement in 4-6 years!

[Mtbrncofn]

A big fiasco. The owners and players are miles apart on the agreement or so it has been reported. Of course, Bettman comes out every once in awhile and says....oooo, we've made a lot of progress. Bullsh!t.

Too much revenue being lost, they talk about contraction. Sounds like they are definitely going to shorten the season, which is ok I guess. I love all 82 games, but I guess it would be easier on the players.

The thought of no hockey is just depressing.

[Mtbrncofn]

So SJ....since the terms of our bet were never really discussed. How long am I going to have to keep that damn Sharks sig?

[SJ Bronco]

contraction? but wich teams? most teams draw pretty well. i'd say cut a playoff round myself. then again, I've told you Im ignorant about these things. I find it hard to believe with hoe much i pay for tickets that they are hard up. Hell, you gotta take out a loan to eat some nacho's!

[SJ Bronco]

Well it was mentioned until the end sof hockey season, but we'll say till the end of a two week period. hows that?

[SJ Bronco]

Besides, I havn't realy thought about it, nor am I gonna give it much thought until we win 4 games.

[bpc]

mt, couldn't agree with you more about the Salanne and Kariya signings... ultimate high, to ultimate disappointment.

When the Avs lose, I'm pulling for a Sharks/Lightening Cup series. That should be exciting! No, I'm not joking! Sorry Philly, just think it would be a fun series to watch. Philly deserves a shot at the cup too though! Those fans would go crazy.

Ah hell... we still have the Nuggets. At least they overachieve sometimes. More then I can say for the Avs, perenial underachievers.

[Mtbrncofn]

Ugh, I suppose I have to take whatever I get.

The teams I have heard mentioned for contraction are the Ducks, the Panthers, the Yotes, and the Blue Jackets.

Yeah, the NHL came out and said they had lost over 300 million ( I think it was ) in the fiscal year. Hockey is one of the most expensive sports out there. Their memorabilia is more, the tix are more.....geez. Greedy bastards. I hate it when they pull **** like this and f*ck the fans over. I love hockey so much, that I'd still go back even if there was a strike ( cringe ).

[SJ Bronco]

Yeah, the mighty fuqs should go, thier fans blow, and the jackets and the yotes havn't had time to realy establish, so who cares, but the panthers might be a problem. I hear they accualy have a pretty good base.

[Mtbrncofn]

I think the Canes should go over the Panthers. I hear their fan base absolutely sucks.

[SJ Bronco]

yeah, wern't the canes thinking of moving anyway?

[Mtbrncofn]

Were they? I hadn't heard. I thought they already had....moved right into oblivion that is. ;D

[Mtbrncofn]

Anyone think GraNOTo starts Salo on Wednesday to shake things up? After all, this is our last shot.

[Clockwork Orange]

No chance.

If he benches Aebischer it'll be a travesty. It'll make it look as though he's blaming Aebischer for the team's failure and he'll catch even more hell from all sides.

That plus the fact that Aebischer gives the Avalanche a better chance to win than Salo. So it makes no sense to start Salo.

Do you believe in miracles? You'll have to in order to think the Avs have a chance to win this series.

[Mtbrncofn]

Nope....especially when you said it was over, CO. If you think its over, its probably over. You have more faith than most.

The only faith I have right now is that they could possibly win ONE, and that's pretty shaky at the moment.

The only reason I say that about Salo is because ( don't laugh too hard ) Mullethead said if he was GraNOTo, he would have started Salo in game 3. Now we all know how much credibility Melrose has, but I just wondered if Granato might try it. It's his last shot too.

[Clockwork Orange]

I say it's over based on common sense and logic. In the history of professional sports in which best of 7 series are used, only twice has a team ever come back from a 3-0 defecit. They were both in hockey, once was in the 50's and another in the 70's. It just doesn't happen.

My heart wants to believe that it could happen and deep down I feel as though this team has enough talent to pull it off if they get it together. But history, the Sharks, their style of play and the Avs shortcomings make it hard to realistically say that they've still got a chance in this series.

I haven't completely thrown in the towel though. I'll still be watching every game and I'll still root like hell for them. I just want them to go completely cliche and take one game at a time.

Just get game 4, we'll go from there. You never know, there was a movie out earlier this year called Miracle.:)

[Pezman]

You are kidding me, right, SJ? Hell yes, there's something wrong. I'll be shocked if they get it worked out. We better hope our Broncos go really far in the playoffs, cuz I don't think there's gonna be hockey next year.

Ugh... I hate to even think about the possibility of the next Avs game being the last for a looooooong time. I hope the owners don't lock out the players for nothing and that they figure out how to preserve the season. Uhh

[phillybroncosnut]

I say it's over based on common sense and logic. In the history of professional sports in which best of 7 series are used, only twice has a team ever come back from a 3-0 defecit. They were both in hockey, once was in the 50's and another in the 70's. It just doesn't happen.

My heart wants to believe that it could happen and deep down I feel as though this team has enough talent to pull it off if they get it together. But history, the Sharks, their style of play and the Avs shortcomings make it hard to realistically say that they've still got a chance in this series.

I haven't completely thrown in the towel though. I'll still be watching every game and I'll still root like hell for them. I just want them to go completely cliche and take one game at a time.

Just get game 4, we'll go from there. You never know, there was a movie out earlier this year called Miracle.:)

Were'nt they both the Habs that came back from down 3-0?

Starting Salo isn't a bad option. Hear me out first CO.

You know your Hockey so this may make more sense then seeing it on the surface.
How many times have you seen a coach, in a game, pull the goalie after the TEAM was playing like sh!t? It happens alot. the goal is not to place all the blame on the goalie, rather, it is to shake the team up. It's the coaches way of saying "WAKE THE PHUCK UP A$$HOLES". Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't. The Av's are in desperation mode and desperate times call for desperat measures. If I were Granato, I would call Abby in and let him know that it is nothing against him, but he wants to shake the team up. If Abby hears it first hand, it won't shake his confidence.
Now, let's say the unthinkable does happen, and the Av's come back in the series? Wow! he'd almost have to stick with Salo.
I think that would be a problem the Av's would love to have.

Summary: Benching Abby is not a punishment to Abby but it is a wake up call to the team.

I'd try it. What do they have to lose?

[Mtbrncofn]

Absolutely depressing thought isn't it, Pez?

[SJ Bronco]

I think abby is too good and if they have a shot to win four strait, its with HIM in goal. Even if you win one with the back-up, you wont win four strait in the playoffs with him. I'd stay with Abby and shake up the scoring lines.

[Pezman]

It is indeed MT, but what is worse is that what few fans the NHL gets via TV contracts et al. will turn to anything else. Its sad to see the sport dying the way it is. Maybe they need wholesale changes after this year anyway. Starting with bringing in the olympic size rinks and get rid of the blue line. Marketing of the sport could use a shot in the arm as well.
It would be nice to actually turn it to sportscenter and see those NBA loving hacks actually show NHL highlights during the post-season. They need to seperate the NBA and NHL playoffs further so that the NHL will be more visible. Ugh... so many depressing thoughts... I need a beer.

Up your butt Jobu

http://clevelandkennelclub.com/lounge/gobbo/joboo3.jpg

[Clockwork Orange]

No, I don't think either was the Habs. I believe one was the Leafs and the other the Islanders, but don't quote me on that, I'm going on memory.

I've seen coaches bench a goaltender for the sake of a shakeup, but in this case I don't see it as a good idea. Salo isn't a viable option because he's never shown anything to suggest that he's a bonafide playoff goaltender. If he goes out there and lays an egg, people will say that Granato pissed away any chance the Avs may have had to get back into the series.

Besides, I'd hate to see Aebischer's confidence take a hit like that when he's neither the sole or even main reason the Avs are in a 3-0 hole. The kid has game, he's going to be the #1 goaltender for this team long after Granato gets his pink slip.

If he wants to make a statement, bench the schmucks who aren't busting their humps out there. Chris Gratton & Teemu Selanne come to mind immediatly.

[phillybroncosnut]

I think abby is too good and if they have a shot to win four strait, its with HIM in goal. Even if you win one with the back-up, you wont win four strait in the playoffs with him. I'd stay with Abby and shake up the scoring lines.


You could do that SJ, shake up the scoring lines. But, I gotta think that the lines that are in place have the best chemistry with each other or they wouldn't be together in the plaoffs. All coaches get their lines together come playoff time mostly on Chemistry and how the produced together during the season.
Mixing up the lines has far more negative results right away then positive. If it were the Reg season, sure, change the lines because there is time to gell. But, when you are down 3-0, you have zero time.

[phillybroncosnut]

No, I don't think either was the Habs. I believe one was the Leafs and the other the Islanders, but don't quote me on that, I'm going on memory.

I've seen coaches bench a goaltender for the sake of a shakeup, but in this case I don't see it as a good idea. Salo isn't a viable option because he's never shown anything to suggest that he's a bonafide playoff goaltender. If he goes out there and lays an egg, people will say that Granato pissed away any chance the Avs may have had to get back into the series.

Besides, I'd hate to see Aebischer's confidence take a hit like that when he's neither the sole or even main reason the Avs are in a 3-0 hole. The kid has game, he's going to be the #1 goaltender for this team long after Granato gets his pink slip.

If he wants to make a statement, bench the schmucks who aren't busting their humps out there. Chris Gratton & Teemu Selanne come to mind immediatly.


That's why he has to sit down with Abby first.

Gratton is a useless Piece of Chit. He has NEVER done anything in this league.

[SJ Bronco]

Pezman- Damn, should have got the live chicken...hehehe I love that movie.


I hate the fact the NBA is more popular than the NHL. WHY??! I mean its boring, the same fuqers win it every year, and the players are a bunch of pot smoking losers. Not to mention, hockey is more exciting, has more dedicated players and the last 4 min don't take an hour to play! God thats annoying. 12 points down and they are fouling. Give me college basketball anyday. Everyone that says they hate hockey (we have alot in this area) has never even tried to understand the rules. I didn't grow up with hockey. I started watching hockey when I was 14, two years before the sharks started playing. I watched, I learned, i liked and have ben a die hard ever since. Not just that, but Im a bigger football fan than I am a fan of living, but I still think there is nothing more exciting than playoff hockey! You can't beat the anyone can win if you get in mentality of it.

[Mtbrncofn]

It would be nice to actually turn it to sportscenter and see those NBA loving hacks actually show NHL highlights during the post-season. They need to seperate the NBA and NHL playoffs further so that the NHL will be more visible. Ugh... so many depressing thoughts... I need a beer.



http://clevelandkennelclub.com/lounge/gobbo/joboo3.jpg


I agree, Pez. Get me one too, while you're at it.

[SJ Bronco]

I don't even think any of the losses are his fault. the first one, maybe he got smacked around a little, but in almost every goal the sharks scored, i noticed that the defenseman are letting our guys just camp out behind the goal flanks, or they are getting in front of the goalie instead of the puck. In seems the defenseman take the blame more than anyone. We can argue about weather the sharks were interfearing, but the fact remains, the sharks were standing in the crease waiting for rebounds and passes.

[phillybroncosnut]

Well on this board, Hockey is obviously more popular.

This thread is nearing 1200 posts, while the Nugs thread is inching closer to 40 posts.

[SJ Bronco]

Hey Pez , are you capturing stills from the DVD or are these pictures on the net somewhere? If your getting stills find me the one of hayes two feet away from the bag flipping dude off. Thats my fav!

[phillybroncosnut]

New Page!!!!!!!!! Excuse me a minute:

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SJ Bronco]

Philly, you got no idea how hard it is to find someone to talk hockey with around here outside of the tank or britania arms in downtown. I don't know where all the sell out croweds come from at the tank, cause I only personaly know two other sharks fans. thats why I wanted this match-up so bad. I get to talk hockey with you folks! ;)

[Pezman]

It makes it tough to be a fan when you have no one around here in SoCal who "gets it"
SJ you'd love the atmosphere in Denver for the playoffs. All the bars are always packed. Can you believe, I went to the Chophouse (Great denver restaraunt) one night a few years ago to have dinner and watch the Avs playoffs game.
Normally its damn near impossible to get a seat at the dinner end for a few hours but it was the exact opposite when the Avs played. The bar side was jam packed.

That is one of the problems here in SoCal. Even when the Ducks were doing well, it was "All Lakers, All the Time" Ugh. The NHL needs to make better inroads to the casual viewer. But, I bet that San Jose is probably getting pretty excited about the team right now. Come conference finals time, the area will be buzzing.

I say, move the NHL season up a few weeks and have the regular season end in mid-march. That would put the NBA playoffs in the second round when the NHL finals are taking place instead of 1 week apart...

Edit... SJ I'm grabbing these pics from some random website I found today. I have a screen capture progger for dvd's on my cpu but I don't own Major League right now or I could get it for ya

[SJ Bronco]

Man, I hate traveling into the valley, all they talk about are the kings. When i stay at my mother-in-laws I gotta search for hockey like Im panning for gold!

[SJ Bronco]

The sharks have a very loyal following only in the city of SJ for some reason. We sell out more times than any other team in the bay, but its the same season ticket holders most of the time. SJ is a hockey town cause we don't have anything else but soccer and lacross. If you want to see anything else, you gotta travel about 30 mins north to oakland or frisco.

The San jose stations follow the sharks and the saber cats loyaly all season. but the big frisco TV stations the big networks, ignore them. thats the problem. the press doesn't know how popular hockey is.

[SJ Bronco]

I don't know about all of you, but Im sick of Basketball. Its the same 5 or six teams every year. How can you tell one year from the other? I go to freinds house and I couldn't tell you weather it was a tape from last year or it was live. Same players, doing the same stupid things with the same announcers sucking thier d!cks!

[Clockwork Orange]

Well on this board, Hockey is obviously more popular.

This thread is nearing 1200 posts, while the Nugs thread is inching closer to 40 posts.

I would love to talk more basketball if there was anyone to talk hoops with. I've started a few basketball threads over the course of the last year, but they were met with little interest.

Anytime anyone wants to talk hoops, I'm all for it.

Hockey is my first love, football is my mistress, basketball is like an old girlfriend who I still keep in touch with and baseball is the one I dumped but can't seem to get away from.

[phillybroncosnut]

Philly, you got no idea how hard it is to find someone to talk hockey with around here outside of the tank or britania arms in downtown. I don't know where all the sell out croweds come from at the tank, cause I only personaly know two other sharks fans. thats why I wanted this match-up so bad. I get to talk hockey with you folks! ;)

Damn! I can't imagine that. Everywhere you turn in Philly, it's hockey talk right now. This is a big Hockey town. Of course Football dominates all other sports in this city but Hockey is huge here.
Like Pez said, the bars are packed when the Flyboys are on. Especially during the playoffs. This city is buzzing right now with how well the Flyers are playing!

[SJ Bronco]

I like the analogy. Lets see if I can follow it up.

Football is my god, baseball is my devil, hockey is my sping angel, and basketball is the tide that comes in at the same time every year and smells like seaweed.

[SJ Bronco]

Philly is a great sports town I hear. If you go into downtown SJ about two blocks in all directions of the areana off of santa clara street, you'd think that sharks colors were the dress code to get into town, but outside of that, its a bumpersticker and a few hats and jerseys on an odd day at the mall. Its realy weird. I know there are hundereds of thousands of die hard shark fans. i see them at the tank and in the streets in downtown, but for some reason we all go into disguise outside that area. SJ buzzes with hockey though. If you go to the mall and yell out go sharks (and I've done it) everyone starts to cheer, but no one realy eeks it from thier pours like other towns.

[SJ Bronco]

Sports news headline, Sharks, Better to be lucky than good.

I told you the news here in the bay area thinks the Avs are REALY good.

The Sharks are saying they refuse to celebrate a win over the avs till its the fourth one.

[bronco militia]

good job again for the Sharks....it's boring hockey, but the sharks are puting on a clinic running that god awful 1-2-2 trap. The avs are not a dump and chase team, so I'd say this series is done. :cuss: :gripe: :drown: :-[ :garcia: :vermeil:

[phillybroncosnut]

Every team is a trap team anymore when they have the lead in the 3rd period.

The Devils and Minny run the trap once they get the puck drops. That's the only difference.

[bronco militia]

Every team is a trap team anymore when they have the lead in the 3rd period.

The Devils and Minny run the trap once they get the puck drops. That's the only difference.

of course, but the avs are not disciplined enough to play it like the Sharks. The Sharks play their trap for 60 minutes, the avs play it when they get the lead. Not good when the Avs have had so much trouble scoring all season.

[bronco militia]

ok then, I guess we both pretty much said the same thing

:hitself:

[orange 4 life]

well sj, it looks like you'll have some time to plan that sig line huh?

i can't really talk about it right now, because frankly, im just too pissed off.
have a pleasant day all.

jake

[Spider]

Damn Griese .... it is all his fault ........ it has been a good year , I could handle losing the second Round as long as the Redwings and Canucks are out of it .....
Canucks are done , Just need the Deadwings to lose .........

[TheDave]

Turn out the lights the party is over...

Sad 'cause from what i am reading hockey as we know it will probably be over soon, also... oh well back to b!tching about the draft

[Mtbrncofn]

Absolutely f*ckin wonderful. Blake may be gone for a long time. A short time actually, considering our season is just about done. This one also has Foppa's comments on that bullsh!t interference call.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~84~2110378,00.html

[bronco militia]

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/drew/042704drew.gif

[Hogan11]

let's Go Flyers!!

[Old Dude]

:vermeil: :vermeil: :vermeil:

:flush:

[Mtbrncofn]

HA! Some consolation tonight. Flames beat the Wings! If we go, its only fair the Wings should go too. ( If that actually happens, I will be shocked, but I can hope! )

Hey all you NOT worried about the Lightning....another win. Tougher than you guys think! Say its the Habs or Bruins all you want, but they are tough.

[Hogan11]

HA! Some consolation tonight. Flames beat the Wings! If we go, its only fair the Wings should go too. ( If that actually happens, I will be shocked, but I can hope! )

Hey all you NOT worried about the Lightning....another win. Tougher than you guys think! Say its the Habs or Bruins all you want, but they are tough.


I want the Bolts.....bring them on, the Bullies will bury them.

LETS GO FLYERS!!! :thumbsup:

[Clockwork Orange]

I doubt it. The bullies are all in their 50's by now.

As for the current Flyers team, I don't know. Tampa isn't the best matchup you could hope for. Speed & skill all over the place, you can't hit or pound on what you can't catch. Then there's the fact that they've got The Bulin Wall back there, he runs hot and cold sometimes, but when he's hot he's unbeatable.....and he's been hot for the majority of the postseason.

Just take care of Toronto and their insufferable fans & media. I'll be glad to see them gone.

[alkemical]

it just looks like TB's season.... I called TB/DET at the beg. of the post season - they were my favs, but i would have thought th east would have been more of a wild card without a dominate 4 like the west has...

PA is a good sports state, they love their eagles & steelers - and you find alot of ravens fans in the south-central/south-east part of the state.... and afterall we got 2 pro hockey teams, and a BOATLOAD of minor hockey teams - that i dunno, from PA's point of view hockey's pretty popular

[phillybroncosnut]

Tampa Gay! PHUCK em!

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!

[alkemical]

you philly fans just never learn that some how the universe doesn't want philly to win any championships - i don't know when it happened... but some where it just did... phillies... choke... sixers... choke.... flyers... choke....... sorry man it's like in einstiens unified field theory or something

[Boogerboots]

Philly's problem for the past decade was goaltending. If Esche can keep up his play of late, this team won't be able to use that same excuse. The Flyers in the 80's were a dominant team, but the Oilers were all that and then some. I think that they would match up well against T BAy. Even though my Habs are going to be likely swept, they put the hurt on some of their key players. If Philly carries on with that style of bang and crash play, they should prevail.

It's funny how 3 of the goaltenders that could play in the next round, are from Russia... Bulin, Kipper and Nabakov all are having a great playoff so far. Maybe it's a sign... the changing of the guard in the nets.

Go Flames!! You are our only (Canadian) hope!! :)

[phillybroncosnut]

you philly fans just never learn that some how the universe doesn't want philly to win any championships - i don't know when it happened... but some where it just did... phillies... choke... sixers... choke.... flyers... choke....... sorry man it's like in einstiens unified field theory or something

It happened in '86 I beleive. The cause? When they started making building taller the Billy Penn. Once those buildings stretched above the hat on William Penn, the titles went Bye Bye!
The last major championship for the Philly area was in '85 when Villanova beat G'Town for the National Championship in Hoops!

[Hogan11]

Pffffttttt...We are going three up on the Maple Briefs tonight.

GO FLYERS!!!!

[Mtbrncofn]

Hey SJ buddy....go easy on those of us who bet....please!

[Paulie Emm]

Pffffttttt...We are going three up on the Maple Briefs tonight.

GO FLYERS!!!!

I've been very quiet for a long time now Hogan, but I can no longer be silent!!!

Leafs will win this one tonight. They may not win another game this year, but they win tonight.

Philly seems more focused then in recent years(with all them bad goalies) Esche is in the zone Belfour was in vs. Ottawa. But tonight the Leafs win.

[Mtbrncofn]

LOL....Philly and Hogan will love that one!

[Paulie Emm]

LOL....Philly and Hogan will love that one!


They've both been trashing my team since this series began(I may not always post, but I read) and I couldn't take it anymore!!!

The threee of us had this same battle last year, looks like the same result this year. :cuss:

[Mtbrncofn]

As expected, Blake won't be going tonite, it sounds. Kurt Sauer will get the start. Oh well, we're on a wing and a prayer anyway. Might as well throw some more adversity into the mix. But hey, at least Sauer played the WHOLE postseason with the Ducks last year.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/avalanche/article/0,1299,DRMN_39_2842364,00.html

[Mtbrncofn]

They've both been trashing my team since this series began(I may not always post, but I read) and I couldn't take it anymore!!!

The threee of us had this same battle last year, looks like the same result this year. :cuss:


Ahh, a Leafs fan. Well geez, why weren't you in here sooner giving them crap? They've had no one to oppose them.

[Paulie Emm]

Ahh, a Leafs fan. Well geez, why weren't you in here sooner giving them crap? They've had no one to oppose them.

I would've bee here from the start of the series but shift work limits my on line tim. It's bad enough I have to listen to the weeknight games on the radio, and AM barely comes in where I work.

Sometimes its sucks to be me.

[Mtbrncofn]

Ooooo....that is a bummer. If I don't get to see it on TV, well I don't know what I'd do. I've never had that happen.

You don't want to hear the dreaded s word as much as we don't then. I noticed Pat Quinn is kinda changing things up for tonight's game. Said that they were putting Wade "the slasher" Belak in Nieuwendyk's place, and changing some of the lines up a bit.

[Paulie Emm]

Ooooo....that is a bummer. If I don't get to see it on TV, well I don't know what I'd do. I've never had that happen.

You don't want to hear the dreaded s word as much as we don't then.


Don't you dare say it!!!!