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Rulon Velvet Jones
08-10-2010, 04:02 PM
Former Raiders RB Justin Fargas scheduled to fly to Denver tonight to take a physical and try to finalize a deal with Broncos. Deal likely.

Goobzilla
08-10-2010, 05:05 PM
Huggy Bear!

listopencil
08-10-2010, 05:11 PM
Whoa. He was pretty good when healthy.

Tombstone RJ
08-10-2010, 05:14 PM
Whoa. He was pretty good when healthy.

He always seemed to play well against the Broncos.

hookemhess
08-10-2010, 05:15 PM
Former Raiders RB Justin Fargas scheduled to fly to Denver tonight to take a physical and try to finalize a deal with Broncos. Deal likely.

Like

24champ
08-10-2010, 05:43 PM
Excellent

RonDaChamp24
08-10-2010, 05:46 PM
I like the signing. He's a tough runner and a good player. Like it a lot kore than the Lendale signing.

oubronco
08-10-2010, 05:47 PM
What the hell happened to Westbrook?

~Crash~
08-10-2010, 05:50 PM
What the hell happened to Westbrook?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

WolfpackGuy
08-10-2010, 05:54 PM
Fargas is solid.

ColoradoDarin
08-10-2010, 05:59 PM
I remember when we were kicking the snot out of the raiders on opening day 2008 (Royal's great first game when Marshall was out). Most of their team was quitting but Fargas was giving all he had every time he touched the ball.

I like this. He's not flashy and he probably won't break too many long runs, but he'll give you everything he's got and I can appreciate that.

El Guapo
08-10-2010, 06:02 PM
I actually like this.

I'm still trying to be optimistic about the season, glad to see mcD isn't just throwing in the cards (just yet).

broncocalijohn
08-10-2010, 06:36 PM
White and Fargas...The Trojan Tandem. I like it.

cutthemdown
08-10-2010, 06:37 PM
Broncos are desperate. Wow what a crappy season this is going to be.

TheReverend
08-10-2010, 07:06 PM
That's one hella RB stable when everyone returns to health...

Aftermath
08-10-2010, 07:08 PM
hellya, i like the way he runs

Hamrob
08-10-2010, 07:11 PM
I like it. I've always liked Fargas. Tough player who can move the chains. If White gets healthy over the next couple weeks...then we should be fine going into the season with Fargas and White toting the rock. Now Moreno can take all the time he needs.

Good pickup for much needed position.

Hamrob
08-10-2010, 07:14 PM
I guess I never realized that he's 6'1" 220lbs!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Fargas

NYBronco
08-10-2010, 07:18 PM
Good pick up and he will be there the first four weeks of the season.

2KBack
08-10-2010, 07:26 PM
Assuming Moreno and Buck are back by the opener, RB just jumped up to being a position of strength in my opinion.

Broncoman13
08-10-2010, 07:32 PM
I like it. I've always liked Fargas. Tough player who can move the chains. If White gets healthy over the next couple weeks...then we should be fine going into the season with Fargas and White toting the rock. Now Moreno can take all the time he needs.

Good pickup for much needed position.

Lendale is out for the first four games of the season.

Why is it that everyone things Fargas can't break a long one? Dude has electric speed... Fast as Portis anyhow. I think he ran like a 4.33 when he was drafted, one of the reasons Mock always wanted him so bad. I wonder what Mock will say about this signing, my guess is he will say it's too late and he is past his prime, lol.

halfcreek
08-10-2010, 07:41 PM
Broncos are desperate. Wow what a crappy season this is going to be.

So why torture yourself? Come back in a year.

Ugly Duck
08-10-2010, 08:06 PM
Nooooo! Sacrilege! He plays bigger than he really is - tries to punish tacklers on every play. He eventually ends up hurt after repeatedly slamming into the wall, but he's money while he's actually on the field. I hate you guys. I hate you all...

Hamrob
08-10-2010, 08:15 PM
Lendale is out for the first four games of the season.

Why is it that everyone things Fargas can't break a long one? Dude has electric speed... Fast as Portis anyhow. I think he ran like a 4.33 when he was drafted, one of the reasons Mock always wanted him so bad. I wonder what Mock will say about this signing, my guess is he will say it's too late and he is past his prime, lol.That's right. Then Fargas will need to be the man for the first couple of games until Moreno is 100%. It will be interesting to see these other guys...Ball etc. in the 1st preseason game.

Yeah, Fargas used to have some jets...I'm not sure he's still in the 4.3's at 30...but, he's probably faster than Moreno.

HAT
08-10-2010, 08:20 PM
So why torture yourself? Come back in a year.

No doubt. You get the feeling that even a Headline reading "Broncos trade Tyler Polumbus for Titans Chris Johnson" would get a negative reaction from some....

Kaylore
08-10-2010, 08:50 PM
I wanted them to do this. Good for us.

azbroncfan
08-10-2010, 09:12 PM
Mock gets his wish. He wanted the broncos to pull a Saints for Ricky Williams deal for this guy.

SouthStndJunkie
08-10-2010, 09:32 PM
Nooooo! Sacrilege! He plays bigger than he really is - tries to punish tacklers on every play. He eventually ends up hurt after repeatedly slamming into the wall, but he's money while he's actually on the field. I hate you guys. I hate you all...

Justin Fargas is 6'1 and 220 pounds....that is above average size for a RB.

worm
08-10-2010, 09:40 PM
Orange and blue suits him MUCH better.

broncofan2438
08-10-2010, 10:16 PM
Broncos are desperate. Wow what a crappy season this is going to be.

Thanks for the positive!

broncofan2438
08-10-2010, 10:16 PM
Fargas should be solid............if healthy

Ugly Duck
08-10-2010, 10:17 PM
Justin Fargas is 6'1 and 220 pounds....that is above average size for a RB.

Yeah... I'm saying that he plays bigger due to his penchant for slamming full force into whatever is in front of him. Borders on reckless disregard for his own safety.

azbroncfan
08-10-2010, 10:18 PM
If we get all our RB's healthy they can all pitch in about 400 carries for a solid season. It will take a group effort with this groups knack for getting banged up.

SoCalBronco
08-10-2010, 10:35 PM
I'm sure Mock is pleased with this development.

watermock
08-11-2010, 02:55 AM
Mock gets his wish. He wanted the broncos to pull a Saints for Ricky Williams deal for this guy.

asshat.

Your probably 1 that said Portis would break down while we gave a free agent major money.

Same goes with Shawn Greene, Frank Gore and Fargas.

Your an idiot bigger than Ditka.

watermock
08-11-2010, 03:08 AM
I'm sure Mock is pleased with this development.

No, DJ has held up, Gore has held up...Fargas has gone thru hell.

Some players do not have the will, or the damage is too great.

To decide is arrogant.

Fargas was laughed at on this board.

STFU.

Now we are begging because our coach has no clue.

Don't blame me we don't have Shawne Greene.

watermock
08-11-2010, 03:10 AM
Gawd our drafts suck.

watermock
08-11-2010, 03:14 AM
I'm sure Mock is pleased with this development.

No.

It's disgusting.

UberBroncoMan
08-11-2010, 07:00 AM
Just don't get pissed when the guy fumbles a few times for us.

TonyR
08-11-2010, 07:04 AM
Broncos are desperate.

Agree. Fargas is nothing more than a stopgap and isn't currently on an NFL roster for a reason. Hope it works out.

jhns
08-11-2010, 07:35 AM
So does this mean they aren't expecting Buck or someone back soon? If not, this guy is probably only here for preseason.

Rabb
08-11-2010, 07:44 AM
So does this mean they aren't expecting Buck or someone back soon? If not, this guy is probably only here for preseason.

I think Buck is more hurt than it's being let on...but I don't think for a second that Fargas is camp fodder. He could very easily be the #2 right now, I love the depth we will have if healthy.

To put it simply, look back at 2008 and tell me that anyone would have a problem with stacking the backfield.

Cito Pelon
08-11-2010, 07:46 AM
It's just necessary to have the depth & insurance with so much time left til the opener. You can't have three backs taking all the reps and have your fingers crossed Moreno/Buck/White can add reps, or force them to take reps before they're healthy.

Denver started camp with six backs, they have to keep those numbers up throughout camp, it's not optional.

oubronco
08-11-2010, 07:53 AM
I think Buck is more hurt than it's being let on...but I don't think for a second that Fargas is camp fodder. He could very easily be the #2 right now, I love the depth we will have if healthy.

To put it simply, look back at 2008 and tell me that anyone would have a problem with stacking the backfield.

Really depends on who gets waived for all these RB's if we lose all our depth for some stopgap backs i'm not sure it.s a good thing

oubronco
08-11-2010, 07:57 AM
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Justin Fargas will no longer be punishing the Broncos’ defense. Not on game days, anyway. Fargas, the former Oakland Raider running back, passed his physical Tuesday night and will sign with the Broncos.
Fargas should be on the practice field for the team’s 8:45 a.m. practice Wednesday. He was signed following injuries, and hardly swift recoveries, of running backs (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/tag/running-backs/) Knowshon Moreno (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/tag/knowshon-moreno/) (hamstring), Correll Buckhalter (http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/tag/correll-buckhalter/) (back) and LenDale White (leg).
Fargas joins a camp running back group of Lance Ball, Bruce Hall and Toney Baker. The Broncos will first have to make a roster move to make room for Fargas.

oubronco
08-11-2010, 08:09 AM
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First one off the gurney carries the ball against Jacksonville?

The hard running but oft-injured Fargas is the latest to join the stable of walking wounded known as the Broncos' running back corps. The longtime Oakland Raider was signed by the Broncos after passing his physical Tuesday night.

"We need the help right now," said Lance Ball, the Broncos' No. 1 tailback in training camp after all the injuries. "We're kind of thin. We've all been working, but it's beneficial to bring in competition."

The addition of Fargas, 30, means one of two things: One, Denver needs an experienced back to absorb some preseason carries starting Sunday night at Cincinnati against the Bengals until Moreno, Buckhalter and White heal.

Or two, the Broncos are concerned about the long-term health of Buckhalter and the condition of White.

Fargas, whose father Antonio Fargas played "Huggy Bear" on the "Starsky and Hutch" TV series from 1975-79, is no slouch when healthy, rushing for 1,009 yards in 2007.
And Fargas punished the Broncos, rushing for 97 and 107 yards in two games in 2008; and 146 yards in a 2007 game at Invesco Field at Mile High.

"Power," Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey said. "He's a good power back."

The Broncos will have to make a roster move before officially adding Fargas. After failing a physical with the Raiders in March because of a knee injury, Fargas had free-agent visits with Cleveland, Philadelphia, Kansas City, Seattle and New Orleans. But his knee wasn't ready. Five months of rehab and injuries to three Broncos running backs later, Fargas has been cleared to play.

Meanwhile, Buckhalter visited with a neck and spine specialist in Philadelphia and should be cleared to practice Monday. Moreno probably won't return from a hamstring injury until after the second preseason game Aug. 21 against Detroit. White suffered a strained leg last week. He will miss the first four games of the regular season to serve a suspension.

Mike Klis: 303-954-1055 or mklis@denverpost.com (mklis@denverpost.com)

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Man-Goblin
08-11-2010, 08:25 AM
No, DJ has held up, Gore has held up...Fargas has gone thru hell.

Some players do not have the will, or the damage is too great.

To decide is arrogant.

Fargas was laughed at on this board.

STFU.

Now we are begging because our coach has no clue.

Don't blame me we don't have Shawne Greene.



http://www.gifsoup.com/view/80792/josh-mcdaniels-o.gif

ColoradoBuff
08-11-2010, 08:36 AM
That's one hella RB stable when everyone returns to health...

^
This

dbfan21
08-11-2010, 08:39 AM
I guess I never realized that he's 6'1" 220lbs!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Fargas

That's surprising to me too. Wow.

BTW, This does not bode well for Hall, Ball and Baker.

Ugly Duck
08-11-2010, 08:42 AM
Some of you may find it interesting that Oakland now has its own college QB star (Colt Brennan) that pundits expect to crash in the NFL - sound familiar? (I wudda started a new thread, but cannot for some reason. ????)

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/005/588/81958399_crop_340x234.jpg?1281505355

Tuesday, August 10, 2010 Raiders may have lucked out with a steal

NAPA, CA (KGO) -- The Oakland Raiders begin the pre-season this Thursday in Dallas. One of the quarterbacks who figures to get significant playing time is former University of Hawaii quarterback Colt Brennan, who was cut by the Redskins just a few days ago, but has a golden arm. Brennan was one of the most prolific passers in NCAA history. He threw for over 14,000 yards, 131 touchdowns, and took Hawaii to the Sugar Bowl in 2007. He grew up a Raider fan in Southern California and can't believe he is now wearing the silver and black.

Brennan had four surgeries in his two years with the Washington Redskins, was released last week, and the Raiders scooped him up off the waiver wire. Coach Tom Cable likes what he sees in this young guy. "If you watch him, he does a pretty good job of putting it on receives, leading them, timing it up over the top and he has a knack for some of these things," says Cable. Brennan may turn out to be a great deal for the Raiders.

Heisman Trophy finalist (2007)
# Second all-time in most career touchdowns responsible for (146). Achieved November 23, 2007.
# NCAA record for most 400 yard games (20). Achieved in 2007.
# Tied NCAA record for most career touchdown passes by a quarterback-receiver combination (39 to Davone Bess). Achieved November 23, 2007.
# NCAA single-season record for most touchdown passes, achieved in 2006 (58)
# NCAA two-season record for most touchdown passes, (96, achieved 2006-2007)
# NCAA record for passing efficiency (season), posting a 186.0 mark in 2006
# NCAA record for most points responsible for (season) with 385. (2006)
# NCAA record for highest pass completion percentage (70.4%).
# Second all-time in career touchdown passes (131) behind Graham Harrell.
# Fourth all-time in total passing yards with 14,193

jhns
08-11-2010, 08:47 AM
I think Buck is more hurt than it's being let on...but I don't think for a second that Fargas is camp fodder. He could very easily be the #2 right now, I love the depth we will have if healthy.

To put it simply, look back at 2008 and tell me that anyone would have a problem with stacking the backfield.

I agree, I am just assuming we don't like his as much as many on roster. We just signed White over him. That is unless Fargas was just cut or something, I haven't really followed him.

Broncoman13
08-11-2010, 08:55 AM
Isn't Colt the kid that had all kinds of attitude problems? Too bad, if he had his head on right his physical gifts are NFL quality. Hopefully he can get past some of those "between the ears" type issues.

Has anyone heard how the Chefs, Faid, and Chuggers camps have been so far?

Broncoman13
08-11-2010, 09:00 AM
I agree, I am just assuming we don't like his as much as many on roster. We just signed White over him. That is unless Fargas was just cut or something, I haven't really followed him.

Most haven't bothered with him b/c he could't pass a physical (knee injury/surgery). I suspect the Broncos were willing to let some things go in order to get a body in camp.

This time of year you need to have about 5 or 6 backs. Not so much the competition but due to the sheer strain it puts on the guys having only three at the position. I don't think White or Fargas are really expected to do much more than provide depth when the season gets going. Our RBs will be Moreno, Buckhalter, and then a fairly significant dose of Tim Tebow on designed QB runs. But, should Moreno and Buckhalter go down again (seems like a given at this point doesn't it?) then you have some guys that can at least come in and keep the defense honest 10-12 times a game.

Ray Finkle
08-11-2010, 09:02 AM
Most haven't bothered with him b/c he could't pass a physical (knee injury/surgery). I suspect the Broncos were willing to let some things go in order to get a body in camp.

This time of year you need to have about 5 or 6 backs. Not so much the competition but due to the sheer strain it puts on the guys having only three at the position. I don't think White or Fargas are really expected to do much more than provide depth when the season gets going. Our RBs will be Moreno, Buckhalter, and then a fairly significant dose of Tim Tebow on designed QB runs. But, should Moreno and Buckhalter go down again (seems like a given at this point doesn't it?) then you have some guys that can at least come in and keep the defense honest 10-12 times a game.

Denver got Schreleth because he failed a knee physical and was cut from the Skins.....one doctor sees something one way and another differently. Plus that was about 5 months ago that he had the physicals.

watermock
08-11-2010, 09:28 AM
It's Shahan's fault!

And Fargas punished the Broncos, rushing for 97 and 107 yards in two games in 2008; and 146 yards in a 2007 game at Invesco Field at Mile High.

watermock
08-11-2010, 09:39 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/80792/josh-mcdaniels-o.gif

I bet Polumbass wishes he was sent to Cleveland too.

BroncosMT
08-11-2010, 09:52 AM
I like the signing.....i think he can be a huge help but health will always be a concern. Makes the backfield very ineteresting.

Los Broncos
08-11-2010, 09:54 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/80792/josh-mcdaniels-o.gif

I bet Polumbass wishes he was sent to Cleveland too.

Uhh

tebowisdabomb
08-11-2010, 04:52 PM
If he is healthy, he will give you 100% on every play... Fargas is one tough SOB

Popps
08-11-2010, 05:06 PM
Nice depth signing. Could fill in nicely in a pinch, imo.

OBF1
08-11-2010, 05:16 PM
This message is hidden because jhns is on your ignore list.

I am glad Justin is here. I hope he makes the squad

Popps
08-11-2010, 05:32 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/80792/josh-mcdaniels-o.gif

I bet Polumbass wishes he was sent to Cleveland too.



Yea... a lot of good things happen for players in Cleveland.

Ugly Duck
08-11-2010, 06:09 PM
Your an idiot

I know I'm just a guest here & I realize that that I may be overstepping the bounds a bit by mentioning this, but.... don't you find it at least a wee bit embarrassing to post a quote like "Your an idiot." Surely you can see the irony here....

Broncoman13
08-11-2010, 09:14 PM
Denver got Schreleth because he failed a knee physical and was cut from the Skins.....one doctor sees something one way and another differently. Plus that was about 5 months ago that he had the physicals.

You watch him walk/gingerly job back to the huddle one time and come back and tell me that his knee is fine.

I would also like to add that for not being 100%, dude is fast. He turned the corner during this evening's practice and had a noticeable burst. He also beat a LB for what would have been a 30-40 yard gain on a wheel route just ran right past him. He still has plenty of speed. Makes you wonder what it's been like at Raiders camp in the last few years. Speed guys like McFadden and DHB are faster out of the backfield, must have been something fun to watch.

Dagmar
08-11-2010, 09:19 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/80792/josh-mcdaniels-o.gif

I bet Polumbass wishes he was sent to Cleveland too.

You are aware we beat the NY Giants in that game? Oh no, you were too busy on a Vikings message board with your pants round your ankles hands covered in lotion talking about Favre.

Dagmar
08-11-2010, 09:19 PM
I know I'm just a guest here & I realize that that I may be overstepping the bounds a bit by mentioning this, but.... don't you find it at least a wee bit embarrassing to post a quote like "Your an idiot." Surely you can see the irony here....

I pointed it out and he called me a towel.

Bronco Yoda
08-11-2010, 10:37 PM
Yet another reminder that we should have kept Hillis. ::)

Ugly Duck
08-11-2010, 11:00 PM
Has anyone heard how the Chefs, Faid, and Chuggers camps have been so far?

Oakland is all "top secret" about their training camps. They don't even let fans watch. They let a coupla guys tweet reports, but they have to stay in a little box away from the action. They did let ESPN's John Clayton in one day & he filed this report:

Raiders primed to end losing streak: Defensive front seven gives Oakland plenty of reason to be optimistic

NAPA, Calif. -- This is the best I've felt about a Raiders team in years. Two years ago, I forecast a seven- or eight-win season based on an easy Raiders schedule. That prediction turned out wrong as Oakland finished 5-11. What I saw on the practice field Monday indicates that -- regardless of the schedule -- the Raiders are headed in the right direction. One of the problems in recent years is that the Raiders seemed like a baseball team swinging for the fences instead of just getting singles and moving forward. Al Davis would be mesmerized by incredible 40-yard times and athletic abilities instead of just getting good football players. In the offseason, the Raiders added good players in linebacker Rolando McClain, defensive end Lamarr Houston, quarterback Jason Campbell and linebacker Kamerion Wimbley, just to name a few. Yes, it looks like the Raiders' seven-year streak of 10 or more losses per season might end in 2010.

Here are three observations from Raiders camp:

The defensive front seven is the best the Raiders have put together in years. Houston, a second-round pick, wouldn't back down against veterans in minicamp practices and immediately vaulted into the starting lineup at left end. That was important because it allowed Richard Seymour to move to defensive tackle. The Raiders have struggled against the run the past four seasons, giving up an average of 148.8 rushing yards a game. Seymour and Tommy Kelly should anchor the run defense and occupy enough blockers for McClain, the first-round choice, to get free to make a ton of tackles. McClain already has established himself as one of the leaders on the defense. He makes the calls and he should make the plays. The Raiders also signed former Jaguars defensive tackle John Henderson to help out for 20-25 plays a game as a run-stopper. The Raiders are deep at tackle with Seymour, Kelly, Henderson, and Desmond Bryant. Getting Wimbley from the Browns was a steal. He'll play the strong side, but he offers pass-rushing ability if needed. The veteran who feels the best about the changes is cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. Losing frustrated him, but he now plays for a defense that could make a difference.

Speaking of difference-makers, I love the Hue Jackson addition. Quarterback Jason Campbell might be the best player addition, but Jackson might be the most important offseason addition. The Raiders' new offensive coordinator is doing amazing things with the offense. Davis wants to stress getting the ball downfield. Jackson is satisfying Davis' desires in that regard, but he's mixing in plenty of other things to update the offense, including short, quick passes to build confidence for the receivers. Jackson has done his best work with Campbell. In Washington, Campbell wasn't considered much of a leader by upper management. Campbell explained that was because he was a young quarterback trying to work with an older, veteran team. In Oakland, Campbell works with loads of younger players who are looking to him for leadership. Jackson is giving his quarterback an offense that should help him gain confidence and allow the players to follow Campbell's lead. Even though head coach Tom Cable has a strong background in offensive line play, blocking is a concern. In run-blocking drills Monday, the defense blew up the offense on eight consecutive plays. Cable got involved and fixed some of those problems, but the offensive line must develop consistency. Cable plans to go with Mario Henderson and Langston Walker at tackle, Robert Gallery and Cooper Carlisle at guard, and Samson Satele as center.

Most improved player: Darrius Heyward-Bey DHB -- who had just nine catches as a rookie last season -- has noticeably improved his pass-catching skills. Instead of letting the ball come to him, Heyward-Bey is attacking the ball and snatching it with his hands. Part of the success can be attributed to Jackson's schemes. The offensive coordinator has designed quick routes in which DHB can run to a spot and make a quick turn. He's also catching quicker, shorter passes that emphasize his running ability. But unlike last season, Heyward-Bey is playing with confidence. Let's face it, the Raiders' receiving corps is untapped because former starting quarterback JaMarcus Russell couldn't get the ball to wide receivers. No receiver on the roster has better than a 34-catch season. DHB, Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy and Todd Watkins have only 95 catches combined during their NFL careers.

John Clayton, a recipient of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's McCann Award for distinguished reporting, is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp10/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5451770

broncocalijohn
08-11-2010, 11:08 PM
I know I'm just a guest here & I realize that that I may be overstepping the bounds a bit by mentioning this, but.... don't you find it at least a wee bit embarrassing to post a quote like "Your an idiot." Surely you can see the irony here....

no, he really cant. But he does give us youtube videos as a sidekick to Beantown.

Bronco Yoda
08-11-2010, 11:13 PM
Oakland is all "top secret" about their training camps. They don't even let fans watch. They let a coupla guys tweet reports, but they have to stay in a little box away from the action. They did let ESPN's John Clayton in one day & he filed this report:

Raiders primed to end losing streak: Defensive front seven gives Oakland plenty of reason to be optimistic

NAPA, Calif. -- This is the best I've felt about a Raiders team in years. Two years ago, I forecast a seven- or eight-win season based on an easy Raiders schedule. That prediction turned out wrong as Oakland finished 5-11. What I saw on the practice field Monday indicates that -- regardless of the schedule -- the Raiders are headed in the right direction. One of the problems in recent years is that the Raiders seemed like a baseball team swinging for the fences instead of just getting singles and moving forward. Al Davis would be mesmerized by incredible 40-yard times and athletic abilities instead of just getting good football players. In the offseason, the Raiders added good players in linebacker Rolando McClain, defensive end Lamarr Houston, quarterback Jason Campbell and linebacker Kamerion Wimbley, just to name a few. Yes, it looks like the Raiders' seven-year streak of 10 or more losses per season might end in 2010.

Here are three observations from Raiders camp:

The defensive front seven is the best the Raiders have put together in years. Houston, a second-round pick, wouldn't back down against veterans in minicamp practices and immediately vaulted into the starting lineup at left end. That was important because it allowed Richard Seymour to move to defensive tackle. The Raiders have struggled against the run the past four seasons, giving up an average of 148.8 rushing yards a game. Seymour and Tommy Kelly should anchor the run defense and occupy enough blockers for McClain, the first-round choice, to get free to make a ton of tackles. McClain already has established himself as one of the leaders on the defense. He makes the calls and he should make the plays. The Raiders also signed former Jaguars defensive tackle John Henderson to help out for 20-25 plays a game as a run-stopper. The Raiders are deep at tackle with Seymour, Kelly, Henderson, and Desmond Bryant. Getting Wimbley from the Browns was a steal. He'll play the strong side, but he offers pass-rushing ability if needed. The veteran who feels the best about the changes is cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. Losing frustrated him, but he now plays for a defense that could make a difference.

Speaking of difference-makers, I love the Hue Jackson addition. Quarterback Jason Campbell might be the best player addition, but Jackson might be the most important offseason addition. The Raiders' new offensive coordinator is doing amazing things with the offense. Davis wants to stress getting the ball downfield. Jackson is satisfying Davis' desires in that regard, but he's mixing in plenty of other things to update the offense, including short, quick passes to build confidence for the receivers. Jackson has done his best work with Campbell. In Washington, Campbell wasn't considered much of a leader by upper management. Campbell explained that was because he was a young quarterback trying to work with an older, veteran team. In Oakland, Campbell works with loads of younger players who are looking to him for leadership. Jackson is giving his quarterback an offense that should help him gain confidence and allow the players to follow Campbell's lead. Even though head coach Tom Cable has a strong background in offensive line play, blocking is a concern. In run-blocking drills Monday, the defense blew up the offense on eight consecutive plays. Cable got involved and fixed some of those problems, but the offensive line must develop consistency. Cable plans to go with Mario Henderson and Langston Walker at tackle, Robert Gallery and Cooper Carlisle at guard, and Samson Satele as center.

Most improved player: Darrius Heyward-Bey DHB -- who had just nine catches as a rookie last season -- has noticeably improved his pass-catching skills. Instead of letting the ball come to him, Heyward-Bey is attacking the ball and snatching it with his hands. Part of the success can be attributed to Jackson's schemes. The offensive coordinator has designed quick routes in which DHB can run to a spot and make a quick turn. He's also catching quicker, shorter passes that emphasize his running ability. But unlike last season, Heyward-Bey is playing with confidence. Let's face it, the Raiders' receiving corps is untapped because former starting quarterback JaMarcus Russell couldn't get the ball to wide receivers. No receiver on the roster has better than a 34-catch season. DHB, Chaz Schilens, Louis Murphy and Todd Watkins have only 95 catches combined during their NFL careers.

John Clayton, a recipient of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's McCann Award for distinguished reporting, is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp10/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5451770

IMO it all comes down to Jason Campbell. The Raiders have had years of super high draft picks. You guys are loaded with talent but haven't seemed to put it all together. The Raiders could very well climb back into the middle of the pack if the QB situation pans out.

24champ
08-12-2010, 12:36 AM
Hope the Raiders continue to suck...I want to see the Broncos get Super Bowl number 3 and number 4 before Al Davis kicks the bucket.

HAT
08-12-2010, 01:28 AM
I pointed it out and he called me a towel.

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