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Taco John
07-19-2010, 01:21 PM
I think this looks pretty awesome... I'll even go so far as to say that (provided they do this right, and from what I've seen so far, I think they are), this could be one of the most important movies of this generation due to the social and political impact that it could make.

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I can't wait...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-19-2010, 01:31 PM
Looks pretty badass. I've worked in social media (specifically in SEO, content generation, and marketing) for the last six years, so it's been awesome to watch facebook grow (and to watch myspace grow and then fall apart)... I will definitely see this flick.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-19-2010, 02:03 PM
awesome trailer...im not sure about the cultural impact part though

Br0nc0Buster
07-19-2010, 02:08 PM
yeah I dont give a **** about facebook

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-19-2010, 02:26 PM
yeah I dont give a **** about facebook

Which puts you squarely in the minority.

Br0nc0Buster
07-19-2010, 02:37 PM
Which puts you squarely in the minority.

Im like this retarded tiger I put as my avatar in the sense that we do what we want not because of how popular it is, but because that is how we roll
I dont feel the need to be constantly updated about people I went to highschool with who I never talk to anymore

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-19-2010, 02:39 PM
Im like this retarded tiger I put as my avatar in the sense that we do what we want not because of how popular it is, but because that is how we roll
I dont feel the need to be constantly updated about people I went to highschool with who I never talk to anymore

Super cool story bro, and thanks for sharing with us. No, really.

Br0nc0Buster
07-19-2010, 02:48 PM
Super cool story bro, and thanks for sharing with us. No, really.

the retarded tiger comment was said in jest, lighten up francis, besides, it is a message board, people are gonna......you know make comments

Taco John
07-19-2010, 03:06 PM
Which puts you squarely in the minority.

I don't know if it puts him in the minority or not, but what I do know is that Facebook is revolutionizing our culture in the same way that Microsoft did in the 90's, and Google did at the turn of the century, and smart phones are at present. Facebook is way beyond the fad phase.

TheReverend
07-19-2010, 03:07 PM
Looks pretty badass. I've worked in social media (specifically in SEO, content generation, and marketing) for the last six years, so it's been awesome to watch facebook grow (and to watch myspace grow and then fall apart)... I will definitely see this flick.

Haha, SEO and specifically black hatting was the death of myspace.

Taco John
07-19-2010, 03:13 PM
I hated myspace.

Facebook was smart by keeping it friendly to look at regardless of age. Visiting somebody's mySpace page made me want to stab forks into my eyeballs and convulse violently.

Thankfully, the only time I have to go to that wretched site is when I find a little known band that I want to hear more on.

hookemhess
07-19-2010, 03:17 PM
Im like this retarded tiger I put as my avatar in the sense that we do what we want not because of how popular it is, but because that is how we roll
I dont feel the need to be constantly updated about people I went to highschool with who I never talk to anymore

Rep for the retarded tiger. Both in avatar and post.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-19-2010, 05:11 PM
the retarded tiger comment was said in jest, lighten up francis, besides, it is a message board, people are gonna......you know make comments

Oh, I see Judy. You think I had a problem with your retarded tiger comment.

How quaint.

I actually don't have a problem with your post. I just find it amusing when people go out of their way to comment that they don't like something. Hence the "super cool story bro" comment.

It'll be okay, Britney. If you're wearing panties, unwad them. You and your tiger will make it through.

Taco John
07-19-2010, 05:24 PM
Also I have a hunch that this film is going to launch several careers, inlcuding the official Justin Timberlake is a serious crossover actor in the vein of Will Smith campaign.

I'm really looking forward to this one...

Br0nc0Buster
07-19-2010, 05:32 PM
Oh, I see Judy. You think I had a problem with your retarded tiger comment.

How quaint.

I actually don't have a problem with your post. I just find it amusing when people go out of their way to comment that they don't like something. Hence the "super cool story bro" comment.

It'll be okay, Britney. If you're wearing panties, unwad them. You and your tiger will make it through.

I like to comment on things I dont like, you like to act like a little b****, to each their own I say

I relieve you of your obligation to quote me when I say things you dont like, you are free my friend

elsid13
07-19-2010, 05:41 PM
actually looks real interesting. I am always impressed with those that use network theory and make it work.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
07-19-2010, 05:44 PM
I like to comment on things I dont like, you like to act like a little b****, to each their own I say

I relieve you of your obligation to quote me when I say things you dont like, you are free my friend

You are adorable.

OABB
07-19-2010, 06:28 PM
What's so revolutionary about Narcissism? It's been around forever. If facebook has revolutionized anything it has revolutionized the way companies gather personal information to sale to advertisers.

Taco John
07-19-2010, 06:50 PM
What's so revolutionary about Narcissism? It's been around forever. If facebook has revolutionized anything it has revolutionized the way companies gather personal information to sale to advertisers.


Narcissism isn't what's revolutionary. The evolution of communication is what's revolutionary. Human evoution isn't about us growing new appendages, or gills. It's about how we communicate. From speech to smoke signals to writing to messengers to telegraphs to telephones to radio to computer to mobile devices. It's all about communication. And behind every major revolution in communication has been war as civilizations use that advancement to try and expand their reach.

This movie is about a small piece of that. As a communication geek, I'm really looking forward to it.

Chris
07-19-2010, 07:23 PM
I have a friend that was offered to join these guys in the beginning but declined because he had too much work. It's also weird to see a friend of a friend as one of the characters in there.

HAT
07-19-2010, 07:44 PM
What's so revolutionary about Narcissism? It's been around forever. If facebook has revolutionized anything it has revolutionized the way companies gather personal information to sale to advertisers.

We all know your feelings on FB O&BB....But that's really not the point of this thread.

I was no fan of Nazi Germany but still managed to enjoy Das Boot.

I'm a pretty typical FB user (use it more than some, but less than alot others) but even if I wasn't a user at all I would still seek out this movie. Love it, hate it, or be indifferent toward it...There's no denying the cultural impact of it on society in general and that to me is what will make this a great movie.

RhymesayersDU
07-19-2010, 07:49 PM
We all know your feelings on FB O&BB....But that's really not the point of this thread.

I was no fan of Nazi Germany but still managed to enjoy Das Boot.

I'm a pretty typical FB user (use it more than some, but less than alot others) but even if I wasn't a user at all I would still seek out this movie. Love it, hate it, or be indifferent toward it...There's no denying the cultural impact of it on society in general and that to me is what will make this a great movie.

Nah man, FaceBook is gay, and hell even this whole "internet" and "global community" thing is a passing fad.

/idiots

BigPlayShay
07-19-2010, 08:01 PM
This movie is about a small piece of that. As a communication geek, I'm really looking forward to it.

I'm looking forward to the score for this movie, done by nine inch nails.

OABB
07-19-2010, 08:31 PM
Narcissism isn't what's revolutionary. The evolution of communication is what's revolutionary. Human evoution isn't about us growing new appendages, or gills. It's about how we communicate. From speech to smoke signals to writing to messengers to telegraphs to telephones to radio to computer to mobile devices. It's all about communication. And behind every major revolution in communication has been war as civilizations use that advancement to try and expand their reach.

This movie is about a small piece of that. As a communication geek, I'm really looking forward to it.

Spelling has gotten worse. Grammer has gotten worse. The topics discussed have gotten worse. I'm sorry but "OMG I ate a gr8 sand witch 2day at my ho beezers howse yo!" is not progress. Twatting about what inane and banal exersize you happened to do is a sign if the idiocracy more than an evolution.

OABB
07-19-2010, 08:36 PM
Nah man, FaceBook is gay, and hell even this whole "internet" and "global community" thing is a passing fad.

/idiots

If you are reffering to me here you are wrong. Obviously I'm a fan of the internets and online communities. I'm here all the damn time. I just don't think having a billboard on the net to advertise the nothingness of ones life is important.

In The old days, one would have to be interesting to recieve a billboard. Maybe a talent of some kind. Facebook is not advanced. Angeline boffing a millionaire to buy her a billboard on the sunset strip was advanced.

Chris
07-19-2010, 09:32 PM
Spelling has gotten worse. Grammer has gotten worse. The topics discussed have gotten worse. I'm sorry but "OMG I ate a gr8 sand witch 2day at my ho beezers howse yo!" is not progress. Twatting about what inane and banal exersize you happened to do is a sign if the idiocracy more than an evolution.

Grammar is apparently being misspelled everywhere. Damn shame.

OABB
07-19-2010, 09:42 PM
Grammar is apparently being misspelled everywhere. Damn shame.

I ****ing saw that right after I posted it..... I was gonna edit it, but I got lazy. Well played sir.

Cmac821
07-19-2010, 10:13 PM
Haven't been swept into facebook but this movie looks decent

extralife
07-19-2010, 10:15 PM
so a vanity PR project designed to repair the image of Facebook Guy is the most important work of our generation?

well, it's been nice knowing you all.

Killericon
07-19-2010, 10:35 PM
Cannot WAIT for more Aaron Sorkin.

ZachKC
07-19-2010, 10:52 PM
If you are reffering to me here you are wrong. Obviously I'm a fan of the internets and online communities. I'm here all the damn time. I just don't think having a billboard on the net to advertise the nothingness of ones life is important.

In The old days, one would have to be interesting to recieve a billboard. Maybe a talent of some kind. Facebook is not advanced. Angeline boffing a millionaire to buy her a billboard on the sunset strip was advanced.

Oh hey, someone else using the lowest common denominator of the usage of things like Facebook and Twitter to try and paint it in a bad light. That is always fun. Really off base but fun none the less.

Taco John
07-20-2010, 12:13 AM
so a vanity PR project designed to repair the image of Facebook Guy is the most important work of our generation?

well, it's been nice knowing you all.


Not when you put it like that.

It's easy to minimize the impacts that any important film makes. But this film in particular will be watched by more marketing and more politicians as a combined group than any movie that I can think of. And whether you like it or not, these are the influencers in our society.

So to answer the question you posed - I never said it will be "the" most important work of our generation. But I did say that it has the potential to be this "one of the" most important movies of this generation "due to the social and political impact that it could make."

That, I stand by. But we'll see. They've still got to deliver it, and the audiences still have to react to it.

But also, I'd question your character assasination of Ben Mezrich. To effectively call him a PR schill shows you are just making it up as you go along. Zuckerberg did Mezrich no favors when he was writing the book, and had to rely on the accounts of Zuckerberg's bitter enemies to fill in the gaps. This isn't a story that Zuckerberg cares to be told.

All this said, the story is secondary to the themes. This movie has the potential to be a great and lasting examination of our times the same way that Wall Street was for the 80's. Only in this one, Gordon Gekko is real.

extralife
07-20-2010, 01:01 AM
I know America. You put a real asshole on camera and he's a hero. The timing is a little too tight, and the trailers obviously want to portray him as a misunderstood visionary that made a few mistakes. It's an easy dramatic arc to make, an easy one to sell, and an easy one to mythologize. I doubt there's any intent to make something lasting or relevant here.

v2micca
07-20-2010, 04:38 AM
I know America. You put a real a-hole on camera and he's a hero. The timing is a little too tight, and the trailers obviously want to portray him as a misunderstood visionary that made a few mistakes. It's an easy dramatic arc to make, an easy one to sell, and an easy one to mythologize. I doubt there's any intent to make something lasting or relevant here.

Honestly, of the upcoming films about the people who revolutionized the internet, I think The Middle Men looks funnier, more interesting, and as it is not written by Aaron Sorkin, will be less stuck up its own @$$.

I mean, seriously, which one sounds more entertaining, the story of the first online billing company dealing exclusively with adult entertainment, that finds itself in the middle of a whirlwind filled with starlets, conmen, Russian mobsters, federal agents and international terrorists, or the story of a Harvard boy and his tumultuous early years of Facebook, which he founded in 2004.

Let me reiterate, a lack of Aaron Sorkin means various character's dialog might actually sound different from each other and not involve preachy monologues every 15 minutes.

brncs_fan
07-20-2010, 05:26 AM
I'm looking forward to the score for this movie, done by nine inch nails.

I loved the Radiohead set to a boys choir for the trailer.

ColoradoDarin
07-20-2010, 07:03 AM
Yeah that looks grZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz. I can't imagine watching a whole movie based on that. What a snoozefest of a trailer. Like 21 without Vegas and gambling.

hookemhess
07-20-2010, 07:25 AM
I have a friend that was offered to join these guys in the beginning but declined because he had too much work. It's also weird to see a friend of a friend as one of the characters in there.

I have a friend who was their first designer (maybe the 6th or 7th employee at the company?) and he cashed out a couple years ago. Let's just say he never has to work again. Nor do his great grandchildren.

tsr28
07-20-2010, 08:48 AM
IIRC it's being directed by David Fincher with the score being done by Trent Reznor.

I expect it to be very interesting at least.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-20-2010, 09:19 AM
Even though narcissism is hardly a new human quality, the idea of social networking certainly is revolutionary because it provides a voice to each and everyone in our celebrity obsessed culture. And a lot less privacy, which our society seems to have zero problem with at the moment. I assume, as with everything else, the addictive technology will move faster than our ability to deal with it and it will eventually lead to new sets of problems that didn't exist ten years ago. Plus, the sense of entitlement that younger people will have as a result of their online/real life persona will lead to false expectations in life that will continue to poison the community.

that said, its a nice tool to help the passage of time while at work.

BigPlayShay
07-20-2010, 09:32 AM
IIRC it's being directed by David Fincher with the score being done by Trent Reznor.

I expect it to be very interesting at least.

http://www.iclicksolutions.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Facebook_Like_Button1.jpg

ZachKC
07-20-2010, 02:59 PM
Yeah that looks grZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz. I can't imagine watching a whole movie based on that. What a snoozefest of a trailer. Like 21 without Vegas and gambling.

A power struggle in a billion dollar company made from scratch?

That is interesting as hell IMO.

Inkana7
07-20-2010, 03:09 PM
I thought the preview looked really good. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Chris
07-20-2010, 05:06 PM
I know America. You put a real a-hole on camera and he's a hero. The timing is a little too tight, and the trailers obviously want to portray him as a misunderstood visionary that made a few mistakes. It's an easy dramatic arc to make, an easy one to sell, and an easy one to mythologize. I doubt there's any intent to make something lasting or relevant here.


This. David Fincher is a very capable director but has never done anything that proves he can go beyond highly polished pure entertainment.

Kid A
07-20-2010, 06:05 PM
This. David Fincher is a very capable director but has never done anything that proves he can go beyond highly polished pure entertainment.

I thought Zodiac showed a more contemplative side of him. Certainly more of a slow burn than his better known thrillers.

ColoradoDarin
07-20-2010, 06:21 PM
A power struggle in a billion dollar company made from scratch?

That is interesting as hell IMO.

Interesting for about 5 mins not for a whole movie.

ZachKC
07-20-2010, 06:42 PM
Interesting for about 5 mins not for a whole movie.

You can't account for taste.

OABB
07-20-2010, 09:27 PM
You can't account for taste.

you're a Chiefs fan, right?

HAT
07-20-2010, 09:37 PM
you're a Chiefs fan, right?

I would've totally 'liked' that comment O&BB. :thumbs:

Chris
07-21-2010, 09:30 AM
I thought Zodiac showed a more contemplative side of him. Certainly more of a slow burn than his better known thrillers.

I enjoyed Zodiac... but ultimately it didn't make much of an impression on me. It wasn't thought provoking.

OCBronco
07-21-2010, 02:56 PM
This. David Fincher is a very capable director but has never done anything that proves he can go beyond highly polished pure entertainment.

I've been pretty meh about Fincher for awhile. He has the Ridley Scott disease, and needs to learn how to turn on a light every now and then. Switch it up, man. The lighting and set design for Se7en, The Game, Fight Club, Benjamin Button, Zodiac, and now this, are all the same.

Fincher has always struck me as someone who's really smug, and is really trying to pass himself off as deep. Problem is, being deep and being smug is not the same thing.

broncocalijohn
07-21-2010, 09:02 PM
I don't know if it puts him in the minority or not, but what I do know is that Facebook is revolutionizing our culture in the same way that Microsoft did in the 90's, and Google did at the turn of the century, and smart phones are at present. Facebook is way beyond the fad phase.

FB hit 500,000,000 users. I would say anyone under 50 is using some sort of social networking.

v2micca
07-21-2010, 09:19 PM
FB hit 500,000,000 users. I would say anyone under 50 is using some sort of social networking.

See, I think I would find movies about the rise of Microsoft, Apple, and Google far more compelling. Not that The Pirates of Silicon Valley wasn't greatly entertaining, but seems like there was a lot more they could have played with in that film. The problem is, all of these films follow the same basic arc. Young visionaries create something with mass-market appeal, make too much money too quickly and lose perspective. Typically a lawsuit of some sort is introduced in the third act, and you're done.

Plus, Aaron Sorkin writing a script on a contemporary phenomenon set at Harvard? The soapbox will be in full force.

Killericon
07-21-2010, 11:12 PM
See, I think I would find movies about the rise of Microsoft, Apple, and Google far more compelling. Not that The Pirates of Silicon Valley wasn't greatly entertaining, but seems like there was a lot more they could have played with in that film. The problem is, all of these films follow the same basic arc. Young visionaries create something with mass-market appeal, make too much money too quickly and lose perspective. Typically a lawsuit of some sort is introduced in the third act, and you're done.

Plus, Aaron Sorkin writing a script on a contemporary phenomenon set at Harvard? The soapbox will be in full force.

I think there's gonna be a soapbox following Sorkin ANYWHERE.

I can't stop listening to the cover of Creep that was in this trailer.

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broncosteven
07-22-2010, 01:51 AM
Narcissism isn't what's revolutionary. The evolution of communication is what's revolutionary. Human evoution isn't about us growing new appendages, or gills. It's about how we communicate. From speech to smoke signals to writing to messengers to telegraphs to telephones to radio to computer to mobile devices. It's all about communication. And behind every major revolution in communication has been war as civilizations use that advancement to try and expand their reach.

This movie is about a small piece of that. As a communication geek, I'm really looking forward to it.

This is why I started the post about the book "You are not a gadget" by Jaron Lanier.

He calles the software lock-in of the Web 2.0 offerings crippling to communication because their is no way to build on to something better in Web 3.0, 4.0 or even 2.1 products. His example of MIDI being the ultimate case for software lock-in is on the money.

I am far from luddite but would like to see more people myself included going back to writing actual letters/ or Journals that show meaning online. I think the art of writing died with the invention of the telegraph and phone. People could communicate in real time with phone and because of cost per word on a telegraph reduced all feeling into as few words as possible.

Blogging is really the best medium to communicate. Look at the correspondence used in the Burns documentaries up to the Korean war and even into Vietnam. Scared men and boys documenting their lives and actions of others in the beauty of the written word.

The Web 2.0 legacy reads like a NASA manual full of NASA shorthand except rather than EECOM or LM or even LOI- burn. Web 2.0 reads: "OMG" "LUTZ" and texted sentences that barely make sense reducting actual content and lives to characters rather than words which give weight to actual actions.

I hope Web 2.0 is not the end, I hope FB and twitter grow into Web 3.0 where sites of interest for every user are aggregated into actual portals which flow into other portals of interest rather than FB or Wiki hosting all the content. I hope in Web 2.1 or 3.0 we use FB to connect to people but better, more descriptive blogging/journal type portals where people write letters/journal entries of substance so that those the writer is directing their friends/followers to can feel and experience the joy, sadness, fears, accomplishments and the human condition is expanded rather than being distilled into characters and gibberish phrases that pop out of the ether much like "Jive" and "swing" slang appeared then faded away with each generation. After all when was the last time you twittered your "Daddyo was one swinging cat who handed me some skin at the start of the jam but his chops was beat and he screwed the pootch. We hired another jive turkey to blow with the combo so we could get some scratch for some muggles at the end of the gig"

If it evolves into something better then great but if the Web 2.0 offerings continue to reduce our lives then quality will lose out to quantity and our history will be marginalized into a few sentences in the back of some out of date inaccurate Wiki page.

SportinOne
07-22-2010, 01:59 PM
ditto on the narcissism, not so much on the communication.

humans have evolved to seek out relationships with other humans.. at one point we needed each other to survive, so we have through time developed this need for social interaction because it lets our brains know that everything is alright. so we are now getting further and further away from face to face interaction because our urge for this social interaction is still being met through phones and internet. i myself think that the actual interaction really isn't necessary but the illusion of it is.

Case in point: you share your pictures online, you leave your status up, people comment on it and it makes you feel good. what if your friends weren't really commenting but facebook programmed it to automatically respond? if you never knew the difference would it matter ultimately? no. does facebook do this? no but why is this important? because the more convenient this distant interaction becomes the less we value face to face interaction and over time i fear this will result in a drastic decrease in the way we value others overall. what i am saying is that if you think people are vicious and all about themselves now, it is only going to get much worse. facebook has been around less than 10 years...

parents, have fun with that..

OABB
07-22-2010, 02:39 PM
ditto on the narcissism, not so much on the communication.

humans have evolved to seek out relationships with other humans.. at one point we needed each other to survive, so we have through time developed this need for social interaction because it lets our brains know that everything is alright. so we are now getting further and further away from face to face interaction because our urge for this social interaction is still being met through phones and internet. i myself think that the actual interaction really isn't necessary but the illusion of it is.

Case in point: you share your pictures online, you leave your status up, people comment on it and it makes you feel good. what if your friends weren't really commenting but facebook programmed it to automatically respond? if you never knew the difference would it matter ultimately? no. does facebook do this? no but why is this important? because the more convenient this distant interaction becomes the less we value face to face interaction and over time i fear this will result in a drastic decrease in the way we value others overall. what i am saying is that if you think people are vicious and all about themselves now, it is only going to get much worse. facebook has been around less than 10 years...

parents, have fun with that..


good points, but the real fear I have is not that people are narcissistic and losing touch with each other (that's just the cycle of being human)
but that people are believing that they are actually becoming more connected. This duality is going to cause some serious problems in human interaction. Much like how "it's not personal, it's just business" made it o.k. to **** people over for cash.

Facebook itself is harmless, but parading your lameness around proudly while feeling something is being accomplished is not good for our race as a whole, it is an urge that should be fought every day.

Being a self advertising dbag used to be frowned upon. It used to be cool to be modest and have your actions speak louder than your words. now it's "hey check out my awesome Abs!"

Im done now....my ranting is becoming obnoxious, even to me, and my online vanity must be protected.

Taco John
07-22-2010, 03:26 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/3/1/129119826601328433.jpg

SportinOne
07-24-2010, 02:05 PM
good points, but the real fear I have is not that people are narcissistic and losing touch with each other (that's just the cycle of being human)


what exactly do you mean by "cycle of being human" and is there any good literature you can point me towards on this topic?

OABB
07-24-2010, 02:53 PM
what exactly do you mean by "cycle of being human" and is there any good literature you can point me towards on this topic?

I should have said IMO... I think people, while being social, are also selfish lazy and easily fooled. If something gives an illusion, it is as good as the real thing for most people. Being objective and honest is very difficult for Most especially if it threatens our view.

Basically social interactions are not interactions if they are one sided. A forum is two way conversation and therefore social, whereas a highlighted banner of ones life is only one way.


Facebook is an illusion of social interaction and that is sad to me.

Taco John
07-24-2010, 03:02 PM
I should have said IMO... I think people, while being social, are also selfish lazy and easily fooled. If something gives an illusion, it is as good as the real thing for most people. Being objective and honest is very difficult for Most especially if it threatens our view.

Basically social interactions are not interactions if they are one sided. A forum is two way conversation and therefore social, whereas a highlighted banner of ones life is only one way.


Facebook is an illusion of social interaction and that is sad to me.



When I wished an old high school friend a happy birthday yesterday, did it really happen, or was it just an illusion?

extralife
07-24-2010, 03:39 PM
It was just an illusion, because you wouldn't have thought to do it if he and his numbers weren't staring at your computer screen.

mr007
07-24-2010, 03:52 PM
Yeah that looks grZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz. I can't imagine watching a whole movie based on that. What a snoozefest of a trailer. Like 21 without Vegas and gambling.

Funny it's the same guy who wrote both stories.....

mr007
07-24-2010, 03:55 PM
good points, but the real fear I have is not that people are narcissistic and losing touch with each other (that's just the cycle of being human)
but that people are believing that they are actually becoming more connected. This duality is going to cause some serious problems in human interaction. Much like how "it's not personal, it's just business" made it o.k. to **** people over for cash.

Facebook itself is harmless, but parading your lameness around proudly while feeling something is being accomplished is not good for our race as a whole, it is an urge that should be fought every day.

Being a self advertising dbag used to be frowned upon. It used to be cool to be modest and have your actions speak louder than your words. now it's "hey check out my awesome Abs!"

Im done now....my ranting is becoming obnoxious, even to me, and my online vanity must be protected.

You are, again, taking the minority of a large group and acting as if it is the whole. Your comments are completely ignorant but that's ok when you take such a strong stance on something as that's typically how people function.

The *majority* of people I interact with on FB are not self-advertised douches (though many of my friends are dbs, just not enabled by FB).

Why do you have such a problem with people sharing their lives and pictures on the internet, even if it is for them to show off for themselves? Are you depressed that you're not them? Seriously what's the major rant, yes it is obnoxious.

Idiots will be idiots, whether their outlet is facebook, public, or whatever forum they choose. You're an idiot for saying facebook is what's enabling it. Wake up dude.

mr007
07-24-2010, 03:57 PM
I should have said IMO... I think people, while being social, are also selfish lazy and easily fooled. If something gives an illusion, it is as good as the real thing for most people. Being objective and honest is very difficult for Most especially if it threatens our view.

Basically social interactions are not interactions if they are one sided. A forum is two way conversation and therefore social, whereas a highlighted banner of ones life is only one way.


Facebook is an illusion of social interaction and that is sad to me.

Now you've just gone of the deep end. What is talking on the cell phone, email, or even talking in public to someone? Is that an illusion of social interaction? Individuals interacting with each other, regardless of the medium, is social interaction. Facebook has made that interaction seamless and available to connect and interact in a manner that hasn't been available in previous generations.

OABB
07-24-2010, 04:59 PM
When I wished an old high school friend a happy birthday yesterday, did it really happen, or was it just an illusion?

I'm sure they were touched by such a thoughtfull gesture as a comment on their page.

I should stop buying cakes, making cards and hanging out with my friends ontheir birthdays as I can easily just let them know how special they are with a simple posting of "happy birthday."

What a guy. Did you add a smilie to make it even more special?

OABB
07-24-2010, 05:06 PM
You are, again, taking the minority of a large group and acting as if it is the whole. Your comments are completely ignorant but that's ok when you take such a strong stance on something as that's typically how people function.

The *majority* of people I interact with on FB are not self-advertised douches (though many of my friends are dbs, just not enabled by FB).

Why do you have such a problem with people sharing their lives and pictures on the internet, even if it is for them to show off for themselves? Are you depressed that you're not them? Seriously what's the major rant, yes it is obnoxious.

Idiots will be idiots, whether their outlet is facebook, public, or whatever forum they choose. You're an idiot for saying facebook is what's enabling it. Wake up dude.


Ok. Firs of all, I know I'm being a douchebag. I am well aware of the less than popular stance I am taking and that I have a bloated view of my actual importance. I am soapboxing to an empty room.

But, behind all that douchiness is still a very simple truth. Don't lose touch with the people you care about by thinking easier communication is better. Nothing beats a handwritten letter or a day out on the town.

I am not wrong to see that people are getting more and more insulated and Are losing touch with what's important. Sometimes I lose my point and get all preachy and douchey, but t is still there.