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Pseudofool
07-18-2010, 12:20 AM
Slow time of year so here's a blurb from SI's Don Banks.

17. Will it be training wheels or a Superman sequel for rookie Tim Tebow in Denver?

The Broncos are in love with Tebow's work ethic, ability to soak up new information, and continued improvement and refinement of his oft-dissected throwing motion. But the math problem that Denver head coach Josh McDaniels faces in trying to get Tebow on the field as a rookie remains: The former Gator is probably going to start the season as the Broncos' third QB, behind starter Kyle Orton and backup Brady Quinn. NFL rules make it difficult to play your No. 3 QB in anything other than desperate situations.

That's why I expect the training wheels analogy to be somewhat closer to what Tebow's 2010 season will look like, with McDaniels making him his No. 2 QB some weeks and finding mid-game opportunities to insert him with a fairly specific package of plays. Goal line or red zone scenarios make the most sense given Tebow's proven effectiveness as a ballcarrier, but I don't think McDaniels will stop there or be able to resist the urge to build Wildcat formation packages around Tebow's unique throw-run threat.

McDaniels has said that Tebow won't play another position like fullback or tight end while he's learning how to quarterback in the league, and I almost want to take him at his word ... until I remember where McDaniels cut his NFL coaching teeth: In New England under Bill Belichick, who treats every piece of information as a vital competitive advantage.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/07/15/20.nfl.camp.questions/2.html#ixzz0u0p4PbGb

fontaine
07-20-2010, 05:20 AM
I pretty much don't want Tebow to be anywhere near the starting job this year.

We'll probably have two new/raw OL in the interior plus no guarantee of how Clady will do even if he does start from week1 given the seriousness of his injury.

When you take a look at almost every 1st round QB that busted, a piss poor OL had a lot to do with that QB developing very bad habits from an early stage.

Hell it even happens to veteran QBs. Stick in a guy like Warner behind a shaky OL as it was in St. Louis towards his last season there and they guy was punch drunk, not seeing the field with confidence and getting jittery in the pocket.

Tebow isn't some gimmick QB, he was drafted to be the franchise QB here for a long long time. Let him learn the offense and let the new guys in the OL develop into sturdy guys so that when Tebow does start he doesn't immediately fall back into bad footwork, his long release because he's got lousy protection up front.

Durango
07-20-2010, 10:55 AM
It's pretty ridiculous to even suggest Tebow might be the starter. Orton will start, Orton will be ok. Quinn will play a little. Quinn will be ok. Tebow may come in for select plays. Tebow will look like a rookie. If Tebow shows any promise at all, next year is where you might start to see some pressure to play him more, but even then, I would bet odds against him starting, or even being considered for the starters role. The third year is where I would expect Tebow to challenge for the spot, assuming he does have the requisite NFL skills.

Kaylore
07-20-2010, 11:12 AM
I actually think if Tebow has any kind of ability to play he will play more than Quinn. Quinn is in an offense that suits his skill set better, but Tebow will likely come in in the special packages where I don't see Quinn being used that way. I could see Tebow having a few "wild horses" big runs for scores. I don't see Quinn even coming in unless Orton gets hurt. To be fair though, Orton is a shade on the brittle side.

underrated29
07-20-2010, 11:54 AM
I pretty much don't want Tebow to be anywhere near the starting job this year.

We'll probably have two new/raw OL in the interior plus no guarantee of how Clady will do even if he does start from week1 given the seriousness of his injury.

When you take a look at almost every 1st round QB that busted, a piss poor OL had a lot to do with that QB developing very bad habits from an early stage.

Hell it even happens to veteran QBs. Stick in a guy like Warner behind a shaky OL as it was in St. Louis towards his last season there and they guy was punch drunk, not seeing the field with confidence and getting jittery in the pocket.

Tebow isn't some gimmick QB, he was drafted to be the franchise QB here for a long long time. Let him learn the offense and let the new guys in the OL develop into sturdy guys so that when Tebow does start he doesn't immediately fall back into bad footwork, his long release because he's got lousy protection up front.




Why does everyone use raw as a negative...Yes, they are all raw. Rookies are raw. But rookies step in from game 1 all the time. Are they proven, Absolutely not...But that does not mean they will be poor either. Walton will be a man beast from day 1 of TC.....

Now I still do not think Tebow should start anytime soon either. I am with you that he should learn and refine, because of all the raw players, he is steak tar tar. But we will see him a fair amount this year.

Pseudofool
07-23-2010, 11:52 AM
Omane isn't letting me post a new thread, so I'll put this interview here.

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Oddly, I didn't see this interview posted (I mean PFT has a link to it). If I missed it in another thread, I'll delete this one.

http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/23371813

CBS Sports : Wanna ask you first -- you're working with Gatorade and the NFL on the Beat the Heat program. How big a factor is hydration awareness in your training camp preparation?

Josh McDaniels : Well, it's huge for us, and you're right -- the NFL and the Broncos have partnered with Gatorade on the Beat the Heat program. We certainly understand the importance of hydration and refueling our athletes in the summer months and really, that's the entire purpose of the program, to really focus on how to prevent heat-related illnesses and fight them. It requires us to constantly remind our athletes to hydrate before, during and after all their activities that we put them through in training camp.

And we have Gatorade all over the building -- in the cafeteria, in our locker rooms, in our meeting rooms, they have it at the hotel they stay in during training camp and we encourage them to drink as much as possible. And for any athlete or parent that wants to learn more about what we're doing with Gatorade, they can go to NFL.com/trainingcamp and for every download [of the awareness packet] Gatorade will donate $1 to fight heat-related illnesses.

CBS : Well, it's a fantastic program -- raises awareness and reminds us that football's on the way ... Speaking of which, you shipped Brandon Marshall to South Beach in the offseason and then drafted Demaryius Thomas in the first round. Can he step up and replace Brandon as a No. 1 option for you?

JMcD : Well, we certainly aren't going to necessarily place that burden on one player as we go into this training camp in 2010. Brandon's certainly a special player and he'll do good things for the Dolphins. But we have a pretty diverse group of receivers: DeMaryius certainly is going to add speed, length and size to that group and we're really excited about his future here in Denver.

We've also got some football players that were productive for us that are coming back: [Jabar] Gaffney , [Brandon] Stokley , [Eddie] Royal ... Brandon Lloyd had a great spring, Kenny McKinley is a kid that's up and coming, Matt Willis and certainly Eric Decker who we drafted in the third round too. We've got four or five players now who are over six feet tall, we're probably bigger than any wide receiver corps that I've ever been a part of in the NFL, and we're excited about some of the things we're gonna try to do with those big players.

DeMaryius ... we're gonna coach him hard and give him the opportunity to learn our system and be productive in it, but we've got some players -- along with him, that he'll be competing with -- that we feel also can be productive and hopefully there's a bunch of them that'll make plays for us this year.

CBS: One more thing on DeMaryius -- he played in Paul Johnson's system at Georgia Tech ... is him adjusting, especially in terms of route-running, because it's more simplistic there, is him adjusting to your system a big concern?

JMcD: It's certainly something that's gonna take some time for him to adjust to some of the things that we'll ask him to do. But he's a big receiver, and I think anyone would be lying to you if they said big receivers had a route tree that consists of 25 routes. We're not gonna try to do things that don't make sense to do with our bigger receivers and we certainly have some smaller receivers that aren't going to do some of the things that he can do. So, we're gonna try and put him in a position where he can use his strengths to help us, and we're certainly not going to shy away to try and work with him on improving his route-running in different areas, but, you know, we feel like he can be a productive player for us and we'll constantly try and improve every area of his game.

CBS: Alright, last season was a rollercoaster in terms of the way you guys started ... it was the story of the NFL and then obviously a disappointing finish. How do you manage expectations coming into 2010?

JMcD: Well, we're just focused on ourselves. We know we've got a lot of practice ahead of us before we enter into the regular season. And we're gonna try and take our football team as far as we can in the month of August and the beginning part of September before we start at Jacksonville. We can't really worry about the past and we can't focus too far into the future -- we're gonna try and take it day-to-day and we feel like we've put a solid nucleus of players in the locker room that will lead us this season and into the future and we're really excited about our opportunity to improve in areas we struggled in last year and we feel like we made some key additions both through free agency and the draft, and we're excited to see how it all unfolds this year.

(Stay tuned for Part Two of our interview with Josh McDaniels later today)

-- Will Brinson

http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/23373453?tag=comBlogEntryListCnt;entry23373453

(Ed. Note: Yes, we are also annoyed that we got off the phone with McDaniels a few hours before Dumervil signed his extension , thank you for asking.)

CBS Sports : [Laughing a little] I'm sure you're gonna be sick of this question fairly soon, but, um ... Tim Tebow -- he seems to almost be the biggest story in the NFL sometimes. How early is he gonna see the field in 2010?

Josh McDaniels: [Laughing a lot] We're excited about having Tim here on our team. And he understands that he's got a lot of improvements to make and a long way to go to be exactly what you want an NFL quarterback to be in terms of experience and all those things. And he's got a solid player ahead of him in Kyle Orton , and Brady Quinn has also done some good things in the spring, so we feel like we've got a great group of QBs that are different in their own way, so it should be a very competitive situation.

Kyle's certainly out in front and had a great spring for us this year, but Tim's got some unique skills and there's certainly no boundary on what we may try to do with any of our skill players, and Tim may allow us to do some things a little differently. So we'll kind of see how those things unfold during the course of training camp and the preseason and I think that'll all -- how productive he can be and what other skills he presents us with -- that'll all time will tell how we'll use different packages and that kind of thing. But he's in a competitive battle right now and he's got a long way to go and I'm sure he'll keep his head down and keep working, but we're happy to have him here in Denver.

CBS: Alright, reader Joe Schlobotnik submitted the top question on our Facebook page (Ed. Note: Go here and like CBS Sports on Facebook and you too can have your questions asked in interviews!) , and it fits well here: Tebow -- hypothetically if he's on the field -- would he be the type of guy that you'd want as the triggerman in the "Wild Horse"?

JMcD: [Chuckling] No, the Wild Horse is different -- it's a different element for us. It's a little different than the Wildcat and if we were using the Wild Horse package, which we certainly used some last year, it would certainly be a halfback back there and it would likely be Knowshon [Moreno] or [Correll Buckhalter ]. But like I said, Tim's got some different skills and that's what training camp is for, to really kind of poke and prod on your football team and to find out exactly what you're going to look like when you ultimately unveil it the first few weeks of the season and then grow from there. We're gonna experiment a little bit with a lot of different things in terms of our system, and we've made a lot of different changes both offensively and defensively and we'll see how Tim factors in.

CBS: Good deal -- one more Tebow question and I swear I'll stop. I've seen several local media members -- I believe mostly local -- who have tied your legacy as Broncos coach directly to drafting Tebow in the past draft. Do you think that's a fair statement or a fair approach to take?

JMcD: I'm not really concerned with my "legacy." I think any coach's or player's story will be told by how much they won, how much they didn't, how many championship teams they were a part of, did they happen to get to a Super Bowl and win one, or multiples. We're focused on trying to get our football team to play as well as we can and Tim is just one small part of that -- we know that. It takes 53 players on the roster and a ton of people in the organization, coaching staff and personnel department to make a team successful, and we're certainly not going to put that burden on one player, and I'm not worried about what somebody else says my legacy is. I know if we win, that's the best solution for all of us, that's the best medicine we can all have, and certainly that's what we're gonna try to do.

CBS: No, that's fair. People have used the word "brash" to describe -- I guess it's attitude -- do you think that being honest and direct, and if you want to use the word "brash," to the media, do you think that's something that benefits you as an NFL head coach in the short term or long term?

JMcD: I think I just try to do the best I can at my job and make the decisions that we feel like are in the best interests in putting the best team on the field. You know, that's somebody else is coining those terms and most of the people that may say things like that maybe don't really know me. And I'm not really concerned about that -- as I said, I'm focused on trying to win. And as I said before, if we win, I don't know that many people are gonna call you anything other than "successful," so, we're hoping to put a team out there that can do that and be competitive each week and we've got a long way to go in training camp to get ready for 2010.

CBS: Good deal. I'll get you out on this -- aside from the obvious names we've mentioned so far, give us one name to watch in training camp, whose performance in training camp you guys are anticipating might surprise the general fan.

JMcD: Well, there's a lot of players that are looking to improve. One player that really stood out in the spring because of his versatility, and because of some of the things he added to our defense is Nate Jones. We signed Nate as a free agent from Miami -- he can play inside as the nickleback, he played outside at corner, we moved him to safety he's a very smart player, a very cerebral guy who fits in great with our veteran players in the secondary and we're really excited to what he may bring to our defense and how we can use Nate's skills to really improve our team.

-- Will Brinson

Chris
07-23-2010, 12:17 PM
Good deal.

Br0nc0Buster
07-23-2010, 12:34 PM
yeah I really liked the Nate Jones signing as well
Alphonso better step his game up or he may be looking at 5th string behind Jones and Cox

lex
07-25-2010, 12:46 PM
I pretty much don't want Tebow to be anywhere near the starting job this year.

We'll probably have two new/raw OL in the interior plus no guarantee of how Clady will do even if he does start from week1 given the seriousness of his injury.

When you take a look at almost every 1st round QB that busted, a piss poor OL had a lot to do with that QB developing very bad habits from an early stage.

Hell it even happens to veteran QBs. Stick in a guy like Warner behind a shaky OL as it was in St. Louis towards his last season there and they guy was punch drunk, not seeing the field with confidence and getting jittery in the pocket.

Tebow isn't some gimmick QB, he was drafted to be the franchise QB here for a long long time. Let him learn the offense and let the new guys in the OL develop into sturdy guys so that when Tebow does start he doesn't immediately fall back into bad footwork, his long release because he's got lousy protection up front.

What if the Wildhorse is our best offense? Its possible that will be the case at times.

I think the guy has upside. If he can become more polished there I think there is huge upside with Tebow. But unlike a lot of people, I see the main issue being reading the field more than its his wind up. The better he is at reading the field, the less the windup becomes and issue. But moreover, he needs to be able to read the field to run judiciously and I think his ability to run is what gives him some upside. He's got to learn when to do it though and also not always look to run.