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Doggcow
07-16-2010, 03:31 AM
HOW COULD YOU MISS THIS????

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5383889

Injured Hixon let go by Giants

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The New York Giants waived wide receiver Domenik Hixon, who recently underwent surgery on his torn anterior cruciate ligament, on Thursday afternoon.

The team then signed wide receiver Adam Jennings, a 2006 sixth-round pick of Atlanta.

Hixon underwent surgery 10 days ago after suffering a season-ending knee injury during the team's first practice on the new turf at the New Meadowlands Stadium last month.

If Hixon clears waivers, however, the Giants are expected to place the popular wide receiver on injured reserve.

The Giants have been searching for a returner to replace Hixon, who was the team's best punt and kickoff returner. Sinorice Moss, Mario Manningham and Aaron Ross are still candidates to become the team's punt returner.

BroncoBuff
07-16-2010, 05:34 AM
So fwiw, not trying to light a fire here, but it is interesting to watch:

If Hixon's injury means he's done (and not headed to the Redskins), that means Jim Goodman's impressive three-year run takes a hit. Now 2 of the 20 guys from the '06, '07 and '09 drafts are out of the league, Greg Eslinger is the other.

And I suppose Ryan Torain is hardly a sure thing, Carlton Powell and Jarvis Moss neither.


http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5479/79568295.jpg

Hero Mns Powell is with Tim Crowder in Tampa Bay now.

BroncoBuff
07-16-2010, 06:14 AM
Actually now I see Hixon will be brought back to the Giants IR, that is if Shanahan or somebody else doesn't claim him off waivers.

That'd be a great poll ... will Mike Shanahan claim Domenik Hixon off waivers? Come full circle?

I'm guessing YES he will.

baja
07-16-2010, 06:35 AM
Why can't they put him on IR without cutting him first?

Man-Goblin
07-16-2010, 06:47 AM
Who is this Hixon feller

Beantown Bronco
07-16-2010, 06:54 AM
I think that's how it works if you put him on the PUP list, which is different from IR. PUP list players are expected to heal up and be available to be activated at a certain point during the season. IR means you are done for the year.

bowtown
07-16-2010, 07:11 AM
Tebow works in mysterious ways.

uplink
07-16-2010, 07:18 AM
McD only checks the waiver wire when the pats release someone.

cmhargrove
07-16-2010, 07:20 AM
Who is this Hixon feller

He was like a really skinny Peyton Hillis... Kind of like a two-handed Darius Watts...

oubronco
07-16-2010, 08:10 AM
So your making fun of Hixon cause he got injured

mj1569
07-16-2010, 08:12 AM
Actually now I see Hixon will be brought back to the Giants IR, that is if Shanahan or somebody else doesn't claim him off waivers.

That'd be a great poll ... will Mike Shanahan claim Domenik Hixon off waivers? Come full circle?

I'm guessing YES he will.

Why would Shanahan claim him? Shanahan was the one who released him back in 2007 after 4 games when he was with the Broncos.

Lolad
07-16-2010, 08:12 AM
didn't he improve and was one of their best receivers last season or was that the season before?

bronco militia
07-16-2010, 08:13 AM
I was ready to make this a thread yesterday afternoon, but after reading the article I decided it would be premature. He'll probably be on the Giants IR this year

bowtown
07-16-2010, 08:26 AM
didn't he improve and was one of their best receivers last season or was that the season before?

He was one of the best pieces of garbage on the Giants WR garbage heap beneath Burris two years ago. He didn't do crap last year. He is a player that will make some nice cathes for you and is fast but is nowhere near consitant or durable enough to be anything more than a returner that you throw in as a 4th WR occasionally to stretch the field.

BroncoBuff
07-16-2010, 08:29 AM
Why would Shanahan claim him? Shanahan was the one who released him back in 2007 after 4 games when he was with the Broncos.

Not exactly ... he wanted Hixon back on the practice squad right away, but had to waive him firs to get him there. That's when the Giants signed him. Hixon had been screwing up on the field because he was one of the guys who hit Everett in the Bills game.

As I recall, Shanahan was pretty ticked off/embarrassed at losing him, in that clenched-jaw way of his.

Dos Rios
07-16-2010, 09:11 AM
He was like a really skinny Peyton Hillis... Kind of like a two-handed Darius Watts...

I don't think that's quite right. A better description would be a taller Kevin Kaspar, or a less angry David Kircus with a touch of short-haired Jack Williams thrown in for flavor.

montrose
07-16-2010, 09:15 AM
i don't think that's quite right. A better description would be a taller kevin kaspar, or a less angry david kircus with a touch of short-haired jack williams thrown in for flavor.

rofl!

underrated29
07-16-2010, 09:37 AM
Who cares....Hixon is like keary colbert or david tyree or probably brandon lloyd...Just another wr. nothing special.

He returend a kick or two for a td and caught some balls......He will never be a good to great wr.

cmhargrove
07-16-2010, 09:38 AM
I don't think that's quite right. A better description would be a taller Kevin Kaspar, or a less angry David Kircus with a touch of short-haired Jack Williams thrown in for flavor.

Has he lost his "MF?"

Pick Six
07-16-2010, 09:51 AM
Has he lost his "MF?"

He's no longer on the only NFL team that matters. So...yes...

dbfan4life
07-16-2010, 10:14 AM
Not exactly ... he wanted Hixon back on the practice squad right away, but had to waive him firs to get him there. That's when the Giants signed him. Hixon had been screwing up on the field because he was one of the guys who hit Everett in the Bills game.

As I recall, Shanahan was pretty ticked off/embarrassed at losing him, in that clenched-jaw way of his.

I wouldn't say Hixon hit Everett. Everett laid a pretty good lick on Hixon, just did it with his head down. Hixon didn't recover from seeing a guy down like that. Played tentative after that.

oubronco
07-17-2010, 07:39 PM
<TABLE border=0 width=630><TBODY><TR><TD width="80%">Giants | Domenik Hixon clears waivers
</TD><TD width="20%"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:51:44 -0400
New York Giants (http://www.orangemane.com/team/26/nfl) WR Domenik Hixon (http://www.orangemane.com/player/14195/nfl) (knee) has cleared waivers, which will allow the Giants (http://www.orangemane.com/team/26/nfl) to place him on Injured Reserve if they wanted, according to Jason La Canfora, of NFL (http://www.orangemane.com/team/77/nfl) Network.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz0tzgCI9J9

BroncoBuff
07-18-2010, 04:49 AM
I wouldn't say Hixon hit Everett. Everett laid a pretty good lick on Hixon, just did it with his head down. Hixon didn't recover from seeing a guy down like that. Played tentative after that.

Fair enough, yeah ... but not too tentative for a KO-ret-TD a few weeks later vs. NE.

And this Punt return for TD to beat the Cowboys this past December ...



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Mat McBriar to Domenik Hixon ... two regrettably former Broncos.

BroncoBuff
07-18-2010, 05:01 AM
Here's some more kicks returned for TDs by former Broncos....


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And some more special teams TDs by former Broncos ...



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Hamrob
07-18-2010, 09:55 AM
This was more a statement of numbers. The Giants picked Manningham two years ago and Hakeem Nicks last year. Add those two to Steve Smith, Sinorice Moss, Hagen and a pack of rookies they brought in this year. The Giants are young and deep at WR.

bowtown
07-18-2010, 01:29 PM
This was more a statement of numbers. The Giants picked Manningham two years ago and Hakeem Nicks last year. Add those two to Steve Smith, Sinorice Moss, Hagen and a pack of rookies they brought in this year. The Giants are young and deep at WR.

There was a reason they added some of those guys with early picks while Hixon was on the roster.

BroncoMan4ever
07-18-2010, 07:50 PM
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5479/79568295.jpg

out of that entire list there are only 7 players i would like on this team and they are all part of the team.

Clady, Royal, Barrett, Larsen, Harris, Doom and Kuper.

the rest were either not very good, overhyped, or head cases with bad attitudes that were additions by subtraction to the team.

BroncoBuff
07-18-2010, 09:20 PM
out of that entire list there are only 7 players i would like on this team and they are all part of the team.

Clady, Royal, Barrett, Larsen, Harris, Doom and Kuper.

the rest were either not very good, overhyped, or head cases with bad attitudes that were additions by subtraction to the team.


I don't much like this conversation, because I feel strongly about my opinion, and the facts agree. But making this argument praises Goodman, which reflects well on Shanahan, and that kind of thinking is counter-productive around here. But I'm not trying to hype Mike, I'm just evaluating the three-year period Goodman was in charge, a period of singularly remarkable success. So let's just evaluate this objectively without re-building the same old walls, ok?

My point is: There is a threshold level, a minimum toughness of mind and body, an ability to raise your game to make the transition to the league, to become a genuine, bona-fide NFL player. The ability to identify these players, especially in mid-late rounds, is what makes or breaks a draft, and the man in charge. Of the 20 guys Goodman drafted in his only three years in charge, 17 have met that threshhold level, and that is remarkable. Just 3 have yet to meet that threshold imo, Powell, Eslinger, Moss (I suppose maybe Lichtensteiger).

Even more, 9 of those 20 are starters (though Crowder and Scheffler situational starters). And the rest show little if any sign they are headed out of the league soon, especially not the '06 and '08 guys.

The NFL draft history is littered with guys - positively STREWN with guys - who failed as early as their first and second years. Guys who never came close to meeting that level. Go back and look, some teams have as few as one or two players still in the league from their '06 drafts. And in fact, the '06 guys have completed 4 years now - that's MORE THAN AN AVERAGE NFL CAREER!

Your minimizing of these players is classic after-the-fact reasoning ... I'm certain were Jim Goodman still here your opinion would be different. And from an objective standpoint, it's damn near impossible to argue with Goodman's mastery in identifying guys who meet that NFL threshhold-level.

BroncoBuff
07-18-2010, 09:35 PM
At the very least, he towered over very draft boss the Broncos have ever had.

Mediator12
07-19-2010, 07:30 AM
What always sucks about this place is the lack of objectivity. Domenik Hixon was a very unknown player in the draft that played several postions at Akron. He had a late draftable grade from most agencies and DEN supposedly reached on him in the fourth round.

He was actually contributing very well his first year as a rookie Fourth round player, before the Everett injury shook him up a little mentally. Shanahan tried to sneak him on the practice squad for a few games to let him recover, not knowing that Jerry Reese was ready to poach Hixon as soon as he hit waivers. Reese made a long term gamble as NYG had zero return game and were paper thin at WR with injuries. Hixon had a modest 4th round contract and had already had his signing bonus!

Hixon was a very solid scouting job by DEN. However, DEN got caught by a desperate team looking for WR and return help and a new GM who used to be the Pro scout willing to gamble unlike Ernie Accorsi would have done. They lost a gamble when they could have simply placed another player, with less to offer other teams, on the PS and left Hixon inactive on the 53 man roster for a few games.

Hixon has been a very good role player and one of the better fourth round picks in the NFL over the last 5 years. Yes, DEN got 2 great players right in front of Hixon in the fourth round. This was another fourth round gamble and the third straight hit in that draft. Hixon was injured that year and did not even participate in the Combine. He had a late pro day. He was never meant to be a WR like Brandon Marshall. Heck, even Marshall was a huge gamble that has paid off handsomely. He was never thought to be as good as he has become.

Hixon is a solid NFL player who was almost a fifth rounder. That is simply good draft value. Fifth rounders only develop into starters and contributors about 8% of the time. So, Hixon was really a solid job of scouting and good fortune by DEN IMHO.

Cito Pelon
07-19-2010, 08:58 AM
At the very least, he towered over very draft boss the Broncos have ever had.

Agreed, that those were good consecutive drafts.

But Ralston's drafts '72 - '76 still better. All the players I'll list below meet your criteria for meeting the "threshhold" ("There is a threshold level, a minimum toughness of mind and body, an ability to raise your game to make the transition to the league, to become a genuine, bona-fide NFL player"):

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/den.htm

Riley Odoms
Tom Jackson
Otis Armstrong
Louis Wright
Calvin Jones
Oliver Ross
Barney Chavous
Paul Howard
Lyle Blackwood (who dat? I didn't remember him either, but he played 176 games with 35 INT's)
John Grant
Tom Graham
Larry Brunson
Darell Austin
Boyd Brown
Claudie Minor
Randy Gradishar
Steve Foley
Rubin Carter
Rick Upchurch
Tom Glassic
Larry Evans

There's about 6-8 more that were listed as double-digit games in the NFL.

But I agree, the 2006 - 2008 drafts produced a high percentage of NFL-level players. Certainly a higher percentage than the preceding 8 drafts.

BroncoBuff
07-19-2010, 09:40 AM
Okay okay ... split those into years maybe?

Cito Pelon
07-19-2010, 09:49 AM
Okay okay ... split those into years maybe?

What, you think I'm that organized? You'll have to do it yourself, I gave you the link.

Cito Pelon
07-19-2010, 11:57 AM
Okay okay ... split those into years maybe?

I did a little research, stud that I am, and by drafting players with 90+ games in the NFL:

Ralston=15
Red Miller=3
Reeves=29 (with the Broncos)
Wade=6 (with the Broncos)
Shanahan=26 and counting (with the Broncos)

Factor in the number of years each drafted and obviously Wade is the best. The percentage hits, Wade is obviously the best. Ralston, Reeves, Shanahan, they drafted 70+ players and I didn't do the percentages on them.

Looks like Reeves and Shanny are pretty close on percentage hits, with the Broncos.

BroncoBuff
07-19-2010, 02:33 PM
I did a little research, stud that I am, and by drafting players with 90+ games in the NFL:

Ralston=15
Red Miller=3
Reeves=29 (with the Broncos)
Wade=6 (with the Broncos)
Shanahan=26 and counting (with the Broncos)

Factor in the number of years each drafted and obviously Wade is the best. The percentage hits, Wade is obviously the best. Ralston, Reeves, Shanahan, they drafted 70+ players and I didn't do the percentages on them.

Looks like Reeves and Shanny are pretty close on percentage hits, with the Broncos.

Interesting breakdown ... damn good work, stud that you are.

Shanahan had some very very very sucky drafts though. I'm really just talking about those three Goodman years.

People bash the '07 class, but it was just four picks. I wonder ... if Shanahan hadn't squandered 3 or 4 mid-late picks to move up for Jarvis Moss and Marcus Thomas, what might Goodman have made of them? Another Dumervil, Marshall, Kuper, Harris, Larsen, Hillis?