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tsr28
07-08-2010, 01:28 PM
In honor of the movie Inception due out soon by Christopher Nolan (one of the best directors around) I thought it would be interesting to hear the thoughts of people about movies that were overhyped then disappointing afterwards, as well as movies that came out of nowhere and left you amazed or impressed.

For me the most overhyped movie was Pearl Harbor, with Titanic a close second. Maybe it's the insertion of a love story that takes center stage into a disaster pic that turns it into a yawner for me. (Though all Michael Bay/Jerry Bruckheimer movies are overhyped imo)

For movies that get a good release and not much was heard about beforehand I was impressed with was District 9 and Dark City. Dark City can be classified as a love story but I love Jennifer Connelly and the story with its mendbending nature was great. With that said, I'd stick Requiem for a Dream in here as well.

Please add your overhyped and underhyped movies.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/07/inception-chris-nolan-review-good.html?_r=true&anonymousId=5541318521940428358

The expectations keep ratcheting up for 'Inception.' Can they go too high?

It used to be that audiences' interest in a film was an unequivocal boon for it -- mostly since that interest came after the movie began playing and could actually spur people to buy tickets.

But over the last few years, when development and production began getting scrutinized like a paramecium in a microbiology lab -- and since blogger reviews and fan sites started stoking/killing interest months before a single frame was ever shown -- expectations became a more complicated organism. You can, it turns out, have too much early buzz. That's probably what happened with "Snakes on a Plane," and almost certainly happened with "Kick-Ass" and "Watchmen."

Sure, a studio can convert pent-up energy into ticket sales as it did with "Cloverfield," "The Blair Witch Project" and plenty of others. But pre-release hype can lead the people distributing a film to believe they have a bigger hit than they do, and lead the moviegoing public to believe they're going to see a better movie than they are.

All this comes to mind given the two-headed situation in which Warner Bros. increasingly finds itself with "Inception." Chris Nolan's new movie comes with insanely high expectations -- namely, the hope that it will save the summer and, perhaps, big-studio cinema as we know it.

If you hang out with film-fan friends, you've probably been hearing/talking about the movie -- in which Leonardo DiCaprio plays (highlight the white area to read possible spoiler for those curious of the role) a dream-stalking character named the Extractor who tries the bold move of implanting an idea in someone's subconscious -- for months. The services that track the pre-release mood show strong anticipation among a host of demographic groups, including a few you wouldn't necessarily associate with this movie. (There are nearly as many older women harboring definite interest, for instance, as there are teenage boys.)

So great is the anticipation that the "Inception" legend has grown even when there hasn't been a shred of new information about it. With every new limp summer effort that comes out, Nolan's movie gets more drool. "Yes, [interchangeable summer movie] made me depressed, but at least we'll have 'Inception," goes the refrain.

The panting got even heavier over the weekend, as trade reviewers, consumer reviewers and awards bloggers began to weigh in. The idea might have been to let some of that buzz get more grounded, but it may have soared even higher; if the frenzy had reached fever pitch before, it is, at 10 days before release, at dog-only levels now.

Rolling Stone's Pete Travers called the film "the mind-blowing movie event of the summer." Indiewire's Anne Thompson described it as a "Kubrickian masterpiece" and said it will "wow moviegoers all over the world." The Hollywood Reporter's Kirk Honeycutt suggested that he believes "Inception" is better than arguably the best big-budget movie in years. ("Following up on such ingenious and intriguing films as 'The Dark Knight' and 'Memento,' Nolan has outdone himself," Honeycutt writes.) In Variety, Justin Chang, in a line sure to play well in movie posters aimed at teenagers, called "Inception" "a heist thriller for surrealists, a Jungian's 'Rififi." God bless Movieline, which conducted its own is-it-real-or-is-it-Memorex test for the hype.

There's reason, to be sure, to think that "Inception" will rise to the hyperbole. The premise shows promise, the trailer is intriguing, and if anyone has earned this kind of pre-release love, it's Nolan, who's never made a bad film and has made several legitimately great ones.
But there's also a chance -- let's face it, a not insignificant one -- that those expecting an effects-era second-coming of "Citizen Kane" and "The Godfather" won't get all they had hoped for, especially if some of the expository scenes get a little windy, as some who've seen the film say they have. That's when all the hype will come back to bite, as those of us who would have been inclined to like a movie if we came in expectation-free will spend too much of our time trying to decide if it measures up.

Any film fan likes sitting down to a movie with a certain amount of hope, especially in a summer so conspicuously lacking in it. But guarded optimism can be the preferable way to go. It certainly was with "Avatar," which actually played better because it washed away our doubts instead of struggling to live up to our expectations.

Sure, we suppose "Inception" could turn out to be the best movie to hit the multiplex in years. But it's in the studio's interest -- and in ours -- not to think of it that way.

-- Steven Zeitchik

Homer Simpson
07-08-2010, 01:51 PM
http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=92601&highlight=Inception

Miss I.
07-08-2010, 02:00 PM
Overhyped movies? hmm, well I agree about Titanic and Pearl Harbor and am not a big fan of Avatar personally. I think a lot of Oscar films tend to get overhyped. Was not a big fan of Daniel Day Lewis in "There Will be Blood." I thought he overacted worse then some silent film actors. Also, thought American Beauty was overhyped, I thought they were just a little too smug to be interesting. And I was like, really a plastic bag floating around so beautiful? It was so smug as to be patronizing. I know I am going to get burned for this, but most of the Vietnam films I have seen I thought were overhyped, like Platoon. Most Oliver Stone films seem overhyped to me and usually disappoint me.

worm
07-08-2010, 02:12 PM
Overhyped movies? hmm, well I agree about Titanic and Pearl Harbor and am not a big fan of Avatar personally. I think a lot of Oscar films tend to get overhyped. Was not a big fan of Daniel Day Lewis in "There Will be Blood." I thought he overacted worse then some silent film actors. Also, thought American Beauty was overhyped, I thought they were just a little too smug to be interesting. And I was like, really a plastic bag floating around so beautiful? It was so smug as to be patronizing. I know I am going to get burned for this, but most of the Vietnam films I have seen I thought were overhyped, like Platoon. Most Oliver Stone films seem overhyped to me and usually disappoint me.

I totally agree on Avatar, TWBB and American Beauty (outside of Spacey) being overhyped.

Weird. I normally don't see eye-to-eye with ex-pat limeys.

Irish Stout
07-08-2010, 02:13 PM
Overhyped movies? hmm, well I agree about Titanic and Pearl Harbor and am not a big fan of Avatar personally. I think a lot of Oscar films tend to get overhyped. Was not a big fan of Daniel Day Lewis in "There Will be Blood." I thought he overacted worse then some silent film actors. Also, thought American Beauty was overhyped, I thought they were just a little too smug to be interesting. And I was like, really a plastic bag floating around so beautiful? It was so smug as to be patronizing. I know I am going to get burned for this, but most of the Vietnam films I have seen I thought were overhyped, like Platoon. Most Oliver Stone films seem overhyped to me and usually disappoint me.

American Beauty! And Kevin Spacey won an academy award for best actor for acting bored. I act bored all the time and do a better job with it. Maybe it was cause he was whacking it in the shower to start the movie. Most overhyped piece of trash ever. Trying to come across as deep and meaningful... blah.

Bronco Boy
07-08-2010, 07:55 PM
I remember hearing how awesome V for Vendetta was but didn't end up seeing it in the theater. Then when I finally saw it it was just "eh". I think it was probably built up too much in my mind.

Popps
07-08-2010, 08:00 PM
American Beauty! And Kevin Spacey won an academy award for best actor for acting bored. I act bored all the time and do a better job with it. Maybe it was cause he was whacking it in the shower to start the movie. Most overhyped piece of trash ever. Trying to come across as deep and meaningful... blah.

Loved that movie.

"... and his name is Brad... how perfect is that?"


Overhyped? Maybe. But, I thought it was great.

But, that's what makes the world go 'round.

baja
07-08-2010, 08:39 PM
Am I the only one that loved Avatar?

Houshyamama
07-08-2010, 09:05 PM
Am I the only one that loved Avatar?

No, I saw it 5 times in 3D and I haven't seen a movie more than once in the theaters in many years, hell I hardly go to 3-4 movies at the theaters in a year anymore.

baja
07-08-2010, 09:07 PM
I saw it three times 2 in 3D

Houshyamama
07-08-2010, 09:16 PM
I saw it three times 2 in 3D

3x2=6? I thought I was king in the Avatar viewing department.

baja
07-08-2010, 09:19 PM
3x2=6? I thought I was king in the Avatar viewing department.


No no one regular and two 3D = 3 total.

baja
07-08-2010, 09:20 PM
3x2=6? I thought I was king in the Avatar viewing department.

Oh I see ha ha

Dr. Broncenstein
07-08-2010, 09:31 PM
For me it was Showgirls. I was working at a drive-in movie theater concession stand at the time... and I can remember all the crazy promotional shiat we had to put up for that bomb. You would think the idea of Elizabeth Berkley transitioning from Saved by the Bell to softcore porn would sell itself. Holy mother of god that movie was retarded. It was a trainwreck with exposed breasts.

SonOfLe-loLang
07-08-2010, 10:30 PM
The Matrix sequels were awful, but i dont know that they necessarily qualify. Avatar and Titanic were huge successes (and i really enjoyed both), they were not overhyped. I'll agree with Pearl Harbor. That was supposed to be enormous and was a dud.

OABB
07-08-2010, 10:55 PM
Lars and the real girl and the last Rambo are both highly underated.

Killericon
07-08-2010, 11:31 PM
http://gloaminganddawn.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/inception-poster.jpeg

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/will2456/architecture/equals.gif

http://rvivekshanmugam.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/the_dark_knight_poster1.jpg

http://www.letterpress.dwolske.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/18_line_plus_sign.jpg

http://www.ramchandra.me.uk/blog/archives/2007/05/paprika.jpg

Pick Six
07-09-2010, 09:22 AM
Does MacGruber count as an overhyped movie? I knew I never wanted to see that piece of idiocy, but the movie studio certainly shoved the marketing of the movie down our throats...

Beantown Bronco
07-09-2010, 09:33 AM
For me it was Showgirls. I was working at a drive-in movie theater concession stand at the time... and I can remember all the crazy promotional shiat we had to put up for that bomb. You would think the idea of Elizabeth Berkley transitioning from Saved by the Bell to softcore porn would sell itself. Holy mother of god that movie was retarded. It was a trainwreck with exposed breasts.

Ummmm, wait a sec. You worked at a drive-in that played Showgirls? Wow. Normally they play family movies at those. Can't imagine enforcing the 18 and older rule on that one. I can just see all the junior high kids hopping fences and hiding in big bros trunk, etc.

Beantown Bronco
07-09-2010, 09:34 AM
Not only the best movie where I had really no expectations going into, but the best movie ever:

Shawshank Redemption.

Dr. Broncenstein
07-09-2010, 09:36 AM
Ummmm, wait a sec. You worked at a drive-in that played Showgirls? Wow. Normally they play family movies at those. Can't imagine enforcing the 18 and older rule on that one. I can just see all the junior high kids hopping fences and hiding in big bros trunk, etc.

We didn't even play it. We put up promotional posters months in advance and a friggin lifesize cardboard half-nekkid torso/leg thing. The NC-17 rating put the nix on it... and by the time we would have been able to play it, the movie had bombed.

Dr. Broncenstein
07-09-2010, 09:37 AM
Not only the best movie where I had really no expectations going into, but the best movie ever:

Shawshank Redemption.

I had a similar experience with Mr. Brooks. Actually, I was pissed off about having to see a GD Costner movie. Totally unexpected awesomeness.

Miss I.
07-09-2010, 09:59 AM
You say Twilight. I say Toilet. ;D

Seriously have a series dislike of this series of blech. I want to join Team Slayer and kick the crap out of both Team Jacob and Team whatever that pasty pouty vampire's name is.

baja
07-09-2010, 10:22 AM
Not only the best movie where I had really no expectations going into, but the best movie ever:

Shawshank Redemption.

Are you being obtuse? ;D

bronco militia
07-09-2010, 10:26 AM
I had a similar experience with Mr. Brooks. Actually, I was pissed off about having to see a GD Costner movie. Totally unexpected awesomeness.

no doubt

bronco militia
07-09-2010, 10:26 AM
pretty much every Will Smith movie blows fart bubbles

ColoradoDarin
07-09-2010, 10:29 AM
I'm not one to buy into entertainment hype (skipped Avatar), but this looks awesome.

Houshyamama
07-09-2010, 10:36 AM
You say Twilight. I say Toilet. ;D

Seriously have a series dislike of this series of blech. I want to join Team Slayer and kick the crap out of both Team Jacob and Team whatever that pasty pouty vampire's name is.

You really do hate that series don't you.

One of the worst over-hyped movies I've seen recently was Terminator 3, or Revolution or whatever it was called. The one that just came out. That movie was just plain dog ****.

Also:
Surrogates (Great example IMO of hype around a perfectly mediocre movie)
The Last Airbender (obviously)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Land of the Lost
GI Joe

All over-hyped pieces of trash.

baja
07-09-2010, 10:38 AM
I had a similar experience with Mr. Brooks. Actually, I was pissed off about having to see a GD Costner movie. Totally unexpected awesomeness.


You must have sat through Water World.

Miss I.
07-09-2010, 11:20 AM
You really do hate that series don't you.

One of the worst over-hyped movies I've seen recently was Terminator 3, or Revolution or whatever it was called. The one that just came out. That movie was just plain dog ****.

Also:
Surrogates (Great example IMO of hype around a perfectly mediocre movie)
The Last Airbender (obviously)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Land of the Lost
GI Joe

All over-hyped pieces of trash.

hate is a bit strong, but I am disturbed by the sight of women my age who have posters of that boy vampire up in their office cubicle. Don't get me wrong there are some very attractive 20 something males out there (I myself have a little crush on a 27 year old actor from the Tudors, though I do not post pictures of him up at work).

I just think Twilight gets way more attention that it deserves. It's basically a vampire movie for 12 year old girls.

Dr. Broncenstein
07-09-2010, 11:48 AM
You must have sat through Water World.

I kind of liked Water World. It was movies like the Guardian and Message in a Bottle that put me off. Mr Brooks was fuggin fantastic.

Dr. Broncenstein
07-09-2010, 11:49 AM
hate is a bit strong, but I am disturbed by the sight of women my age who have posters of that boy vampire up in their office cubicle. Don't get me wrong there are some very attractive 20 something males out there (I myself have a little crush on a 27 year old actor from the Tudors, though I do not post pictures of him up at work).

I just think Twilight gets way more attention that it deserves. It's basically a vampire movie for 12 year old girls.

http://www.geekologie.com/2009/11/28/twilight-moms.jpg

bronco militia
07-09-2010, 12:45 PM
TWILF's!

baja
07-09-2010, 12:48 PM
I kind of liked Water World. It was movies like the Guardian and Message in a Bottle that put me off. Mr Brooks was fuggin fantastic.


After reading you post about Mr. Brooks a few weeks back I tried to rent it on my Apple TV but they will only sell it for 14.99. Is it worth it?

bronco militia
07-09-2010, 12:50 PM
After reading you post about Mr. Brooks a few weeks back I tried to rent it on my Apple TV but they will only sell it for 14.99. Is it worth it?

the only movie worth $14.99 is Paul Blart: Mall Cop. make sure you get it on blu ray

baja
07-09-2010, 12:52 PM
I kind of liked Water World. It was movies like the Guardian and Message in a Bottle that put me off. Mr Brooks was fuggin fantastic.

The only Costner movies I remember liking are If You Build it They will Come and Dancing with Wolves.

The very worst was The Postman.

Beantown Bronco
07-09-2010, 12:52 PM
the only movie worth $14.99 is Paul Blart: Mall Cop.

Well, that and Ghostbusters.....but only if you have small children.

Beantown Bronco
07-09-2010, 12:53 PM
The only Costner movies I remember liking are If You Build it They will Come and Dancing with Wolves.

The very worst was The Postman.

The Untouchables?
No Way Out?

They were both awesome.

And Bull Durham....can't believe I almost forgot that one.

baja
07-09-2010, 12:53 PM
the only movie worth $14.99 is Paul Blart: Mall Cop. make sure you get it on blu ray


I saw that movie you can't be serious.

baja
07-09-2010, 12:55 PM
The Untouchables?
No Way Out?

They were both awesome.

Ya I forgot about the Untouckables

Never even heard of No Way Out. I will try to find it on Apple TV since you are recommening it.

Miss I.
07-09-2010, 01:01 PM
Baja, If you Build it is actually known by the title "Field of Dreams." And for the record Costner was best in Bull Durham, but Field of Dreams and Untouchables are also good.

bronco militia
07-09-2010, 01:04 PM
I saw that movie you can't be serious.

of course not... Ha!

Dr. Broncenstein
07-09-2010, 01:33 PM
After reading you post about Mr. Brooks a few weeks back I tried to rent it on my Apple TV but they will only sell it for 14.99. Is it worth it?

Yes.

Beantown Bronco
07-09-2010, 01:37 PM
Baja, If you Build it is actually known by the title "Field of Dreams." And for the record Costner was best in Bull Durham, but Field of Dreams and Untouchables are also good.

Just looked at his "resume" of movies on imdb and actually forgot one. For Love of the Game. I really like him in that one too.

bowtown
07-09-2010, 02:16 PM
I can watch Tin Cup over and over again for eternity.

Doggcow
07-09-2010, 02:22 PM
What about Knight and Day recently? ALL of the New Star Wars.

I agree, V for Vendetta sucked balls.

gunns
07-09-2010, 02:24 PM
I think over blown is a matter of opinion and often has to do with what you like. Never liked any of the Star Wars, Star Treks, Avatar because I don't generally like those type of movies.

I think as far as disappointed in a movie I was looking forward to was The Firm. The book was excellent, they totally changed the ending. Yes the book is always better but it wasn't even that, it was changing it totally.

Archer81
07-09-2010, 02:26 PM
Baja, If you Build it is actually known by the title "Field of Dreams." And for the record Costner was best in Bull Durham, but Field of Dreams and Untouchables are also good.


Costner killed me in Robin Hood...everyone else in the movie had accents...even Morgan Freeman. Costner sounded like an extra for Sopranos. Made no damn sense...


:Broncos:

bowtown
07-09-2010, 02:33 PM
I think there should also be a list of overhyped movies after the fact. Movies that absolutely SUCKED yet everyone likes to pretend they liked it because it has some sort of a "critical acclaim" attached to it, or because it makes people feel like they are smart.

Here's my #1 for that: Clerks

Such a piece of crap movie with Kevin Smith's horribly contrived dialogue, crappy character development, and worthless humor. Somehow though, it got this reputation as being one of the first great indys of a new generation and now everyone and their mom lies to themselves and everyone else about how much they loved it, because they want to sound smart. Well it sucked, along with every other movie Kevin Smith has ever made, with maybe the exception of Mallrats.

tsr28
07-09-2010, 02:41 PM
I think there should also be a list of overhyped movies after the fact. Movies that absolutely SUCKED yet everyone likes to pretend they liked it because it has some sort of a "critical acclaim" attached to it, or because it makes people feel like they are smart.

Here's my #1 for that: Clerks

Such a piece of crap movie with Kevin Smith's horribly contrived dialogue, crappy character development, and worthless humor. Somehow though, it got this reputation as being one of the first great indys of a new generation and now everyone and their mom lies to themselves and everyone else about how much they loved it, because they want to sound smart. Well it sucked, along with every other movie Kevin Smith has ever made, with maybe the exception of Mallrats.

I like Kevin Smith but I would agree with this, I believe this ushered in a few movies that abused dialogue to make it appeal to others as a perceived sense of higher intelligence. Hell, that sounded smarmy by itself ;p

For recent movies I would put Juno in this category.

baja
07-09-2010, 03:35 PM
What about Knight and Day recently? ALL of the New Star Wars.

I agree, V for Vendetta sucked balls.


V is one of my all time favorite movies.

Houshyamama
07-09-2010, 03:41 PM
I like Kevin Smith but I would agree with this, I believe this ushered in a few movies that abused dialogue to make it appeal to others as a perceived sense of higher intelligence. Hell, that sounded smarmy by itself ;p

For recent movies I would put Juno in this category.

:thumbsup:I ****ing HATED that movie.

bronco militia
07-09-2010, 07:37 PM
For recent movies I would put Juno in this category.

I agree.....