Illegal Immigration

[Broncojef]

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
* * * * * * * *
2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
* * * * * * * *
3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
* * * * * * * *
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are
here.
* * * * * * * *
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
* * * * * * * *
6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food
stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will
be deported.
* * * * * * * *
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least
equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
* * * * * * * *
8. If foreigners come here and buy land... Options will be restricted.
Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens
naturally born into this country.
* * * * * * * *
9.. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a
foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his
policies. These will lead to deportation.
* * * * * * * *
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted
&, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All
assets will be taken from you.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
TOO STRICT?

The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO !!!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'll gladly sign off on that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO !!!

Is that not the definition of irony?

[JJJ]

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
* * * * * * * *
2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
* * * * * * * *
3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
* * * * * * * *
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are
here.
* * * * * * * *
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
* * * * * * * *
6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food
stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will
be deported.
* * * * * * * *
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least
equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
* * * * * * * *
8. If foreigners come here and buy land... Options will be restricted.
Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens
naturally born into this country.
* * * * * * * *
9.. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a
foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his
policies. These will lead to deportation.
* * * * * * * *
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted
&, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All
assets will be taken from you.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
TOO STRICT?

The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO !!!

Ha! I am assuming it is all true.

There are benefits though. Foreigners can serve in the military during wartime.

[BroncoBuff]

Chuck Schumer and BroncoBuff ... we have all the answers for this issue.

[barryr]

Looks great to me, but too many weakass politicians in this country, are too worried about votes and being portrayed as racists by the liberal media.

[bronclvr]

I LOVE that the Arizona Law is pushing the current administration to do something about Illegal Immigration-now, if there were only some way to get them to do something about Jobs-

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Looks great to me, but too many weakass politicians in this country, are too worried about votes and being portrayed as racists by the liberal media.

Says a hypocrite whose hero GeeDubya sought amnesty and work visas for illegals and whose party has always pandered to the interests of cheap labor conservatives who profit from illegal immigration more than anyone else in America.

[Meck77]

Says a hypocrite whose hero GeeDubya sought amnesty and work visas for illegals and whose party has always pandered to the interests of cheap labor conservatives who profit from illegal immigration more than anyone else in America.

FYI Obama is president.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I LOVE that the Arizona Law is pushing the current administration to do something about Illegal Immigration-now, if there were only some way to get them to do something about Jobs-

That would be nice if something could be done about jobs.

I don't know about you, but I'm not hearing any ideas or solutions from the right - just attacks on the current administration and a desire to see Obama fail with the hope that said failure will return them to power.

Also, I think a lot of folks are still in denial about the fact that all of those good-paying jobs that were shipped overseas under BushCo are not coming back.

[barryr]

Says a hypocrite whose hero GeeDubya sought amnesty and work visas for illegals and whose party has always pandered to the interests of cheap labor conservatives who profit from illegal immigration more than anyone else in America.

You are for sure hands down in the lead in dumbest poster around, especially if you think I ever applauded for amnesty. Isn't it time for mommy to fix your breakfast yet or is it Cocoa Puffs today?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

FYI Obama is president.

FYI, that doesn't make you or your buddy barryr any less hypocritical if you gave Bush a pass for seeking amnesty and work visas for illegals.

"Giving him a pass" is probably putting it too kindly - many of you voted for Daddy's Little War Criminal again in '04 with the knowledge that Dim Son was seeking amnesty and work visas.

Furthermore, your brilliant observation (I'm sure we're all impressed that you know who the president is) does nothing to dispute my argument that cheap labor conservatives benefit more from illegal immigration than anyone else in our society.

[Meck77]

That would be nice if something could be done about jobs.

I don't know about you, but I'm not hearing any ideas or solutions from the right - just attacks on the current administration and a desire to see Obama fail with the hope that said failure will return them to power.

Also, I think a lot of folks are still in denial about the fact that all of those good-paying jobs that were shipped overseas under BushCo are not coming back.

So how many jobs are you creating in this wonderful economic climate? Forget about the right and left for just one second. What are you doing?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You are for sure hands down in the lead in dumbest poster around, especially if you think I ever applauded for amnesty. Isn't it time for mommy to fix your breakfast yet or is it Cocoa Puffs today?

Show me the threads you started taking Bush to task for seeking amnesty and work visas.

That's what I thought.

Exposing you as a moron and a hypocrite couldn't be easier.

[bronclvr]

That would be nice if something could be done about jobs.

I don't know about you, but I'm not hearing any ideas or solutions from the right - just attacks on the current administration and a desire to see Obama fail with the hope that said failure will return them to power.

Also, I think a lot of folks are still in denial about the fact that all of those good-paying jobs that were shipped overseas under BushCo are not coming back.

LABF,

I don't give a rat's ass about Obama one way or the other, I care about my Family-everything isn't always about Politics, do you realize that? The devisivness that exists today only continues to slow any progress that needs to be made in order to get us out of this mess-

Is Bush responsible? Yes. Is Obama responsible? Yes. It is (was) BOTH of their Jobs to guide this Country, and I think they both have done a sucky job-McCain and Palin would have not been any better, but they (read: the entire Administration, D & R) need to get off of their collective asses and actually do something to right the ship, and it isn't happening-they are being paid handsomely to do it-somehow, we all have to work together-

[barryr]

Show me the threads you started taking Bush to task for seeking amnesty and work visas.

That's what I thought.

Exposing you as a moron and a hypocrite couldn't be easier.

**** you little boy. You are the one making accusations, so genius, show me just one post where I supported amnesty. Not countless threads or posts, JUST ONE! You are such a complete idiot who has spent this past year going on and on about Bush in over half of your posts in regards to any subject. You clearly suffer from a mental disease. Seek help. Mommy is calling you, you diapers need changing :thumbsup:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

So how many jobs are you creating in this wonderful economic climate? Forget about the right and left for just one second. What are you doing?

Probably the same number of jobs the multinational corporations who benefited most from Bush's tax cuts (which, BTW, were supposed to "stimulate the economy" and spur job creation) created with their windfalls during the Bush years: Zero. (In fact, the first net job loss since Hoover occurred on Bush's watch.)

But then, I'm a self-employed individual who works as a freelance musician - not a corporation or a business owner. So at least I have some excuse for not creating jobs - unlike the greedy fat cats you shill for.

[barryr]

Probably the same number of jobs the multinational corporations who benefited most from Bush's tax cuts (which, BTW, were supposed to "stimulate the economy" and spur job creation) created with their windfalls during the Bush years: Zero. (In fact, the first net job loss since Hoover occurred on Bush's watch.)

But then, I'm a self-employed individual who works as a freelance musician - not a corporation or a business owner. So at least I have some excuse for not creating jobs - unlike the greedy fat cats you shill for.

Shocking, another mention about Bush in your post. You really have mental problems.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

**** you little boy. You are the one making accusations, so genius, show me just one post where I supported amnesty. Not countless threads or posts, JUST ONE! You are such a complete idiot who has spent this past year going on and on about Bush in over half of your posts in regards to any subject. You clearly suffer from a mental disease. Seek help. Mommy is calling you, you diapers need changing :thumbsup:

Ha ha ha! :D

Obviously my remarks were right on target: He's having a Tourette's attack and foaming at the mouth.

So let me ask you again: Can you show us even one thread where you took Bush to task for seeking amnesty and work visas for illegal immigrants?

How about a thread started by you that takes any Republican to task for anything?

That's what I thought.

You are a poster boy for hypocrisy.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Shocking, another mention about Bush in your post. You really have mental problems.

Shocking - you have yet to produce evidence that you have ever taken republicans (and not just Democrats) to task on this forum for caving on illegal immigration.

Likewise, you have no answer for my observation that cheap labor conservatives benefit the most from illegal immigration in our society.

Note: Having a Tourette's attack and acting like a third-grader having a tantrum doesn't constitute an answer.

[barryr]

Ha ha ha! :D

Obviously my remarks were right on target: He's having a Tourette's attack and foaming at the mouth.

So let me ask you again: Can you show us even one thread where you took Bush to task for seeking amnesty and work visas for illegal immigrants?

How about a thread started by you that takes any Republican to task for anything?

That's what I thought.

You are a poster boy for hypocrisy.

Like I thought, you couldn't find one and mentioning Bush again in a post. You are mentally diseased, I hope you never have kids since we have enough kids who need psychological counseling as it is :wave:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LABF,

I don't give a rat's ass about Obama one way or the other, I care about my Family-everything isn't always about Politics, do you realize that? The devisivness that exists today only continues to slow any progress that needs to be made in order to get us out of this mess-

Is Bush responsible? Yes. Is Obama responsible? Yes. It is (was) BOTH of their Jobs to guide this Country, and I think they both have done a sucky job-McCain and Palin would have not been any better, but they (read: the entire Administration, D & R) need to get off of their collective asses and actually do something to right the ship, and it isn't happening-they are being paid handsomely to do it-somehow, we all have to work together-

Now there's a post I will gladly co-sign.

Nice work! :thumbsup:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Like I thought, you couldn't find one and mentioning Bush again in a post. You are mentally diseased, I hope you never have kids since we have enough kids who need psychological counseling as it is :wave:

Still waiting for you to produce even one iota of evidence that you ever took Bush to task for seeking amnesty and work visas for illegals.

Until then, you are nothing but a GOP shill and a world-class hypocrite - no matter how many ad hominems and epithets you sling here.

[barryr]

Now there's a post I will gladly co-sign.

Nice work! :thumbsup:

Yeah right. It would be just as hard to find a post where I ever supported amnesty as finding a post where you criticized Obama's **** smelling bad LOL

[barryr]

Still waiting for you to produce even one iota of evidence that you ever took Bush to task for seeking amnesty and work visas for illegals.

Until then, you are nothing but a GOP shill and a world-class hypocrite - no matter how many ad hominems and epithets you sling here.

Sorry, but you made the accusation, so you spend the time researching where I made one post supporting amnesty. I'm not spending my time doing that to satisfy the likes of a mental midget.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah right. It would be just as hard to find a post where I ever supported amnesty as finding a post where you criticized Obama's **** smelling bad LOL

I never said you posted anything in support of amnesty - I asked you to produce even one thread where you called Bush out for seeking amnesty and work visas.

To make it even simpler for you, show me even one thread you have started to take any republican to task for anything that pertains to illegal immigration.

Until you can do this, then you are a hypocrite and a shill whose only interest in the issue is its usefulness as a political football.

[Meck77]

LABF,

I don't give a rat's ass about Obama one way or the other, I care about my Family-everything isn't always about Politics, do you realize that? The devisivness that exists today only continues to slow any progress that needs to be made in order to get us out of this mess-

Is Bush responsible? Yes. Is Obama responsible? Yes. It is (was) BOTH of their Jobs to guide this Country, and I think they both have done a sucky job-McCain and Palin would have not been any better, but they (read: the entire Administration, D & R) need to get off of their collective asses and actually do something to right the ship, and it isn't happening-they are being paid handsomely to do it-somehow, we all have to work together-

ALL of us need to get off our collected asses. That is my point. Racking up 40,000 posts of complaints isn't going to get anything done.

[gunns]

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
* * * * * * * *
2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
* * * * * * * *
3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
* * * * * * * *
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are
here.
* * * * * * * *
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
* * * * * * * *
6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food
stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will
be deported.
* * * * * * * *
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least
equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
* * * * * * * *
8. If foreigners come here and buy land... Options will be restricted.
Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens
naturally born into this country.
* * * * * * * *
9.. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a
foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his
policies. These will lead to deportation.
* * * * * * * *
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted
&, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All
assets will be taken from you.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
TOO STRICT?

The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO !!!

I would applaud #3 above all else. #6 here in the United States will only work if you stop the anchor babies. Now when you say Foreigners, are you saying legal ones too. If so I would majorily applaud this. And deportation doesn't work, they just come back. All their assets have usually been sent to their own country.

[c_lazy_r]

LABF,

I don't give a rat's ass about Obama one way or the other, I care about my Family-everything isn't always about Politics, do you realize that? The devisivness that exists today only continues to slow any progress that needs to be made in order to get us out of this mess-

Is Bush responsible? Yes. Is Obama responsible? Yes. It is (was) BOTH of their Jobs to guide this Country, and I think they both have done a sucky job-McCain and Palin would have not been any better, but they (read: the entire Administration, D & R) need to get off of their collective asses and actually do something to right the ship, and it isn't happening-they are being paid handsomely to do it-somehow, we all have to work together-



Excellent post and I couldn't agree more.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

ALL of us need to get off our collected asses. That is my point.

I read this, and then I look at your avatar and chuckle.


Racking up 40,000 posts of complaints isn't going to get anything done.

Maybe we can all borrow a page from your playbook and rack up several thousand negative rep comments per day instead. :wave:

[RMT]

you can sign a petition in SUPPORT of Arizona's illegal immigration law at http://www.securetheborder.org/

AND

you can make a tax deductible contribution in SUPPORT of their defense of any lawsuits filed against Arizona's illegal immigration law
http://www.keepazsafe.com/

[TonyR]

Wow, here's a Bush you righties will never get behind!

A legal immigration system is the not-so-secret edge in a competitive, interconnected world economy. Immigrants enhance our ability to grow and prosper in the dynamic global marketplace. We will need every possible advantage to expand our economy amid its fiscal challenges. Moreover, the aging of our population places a premium on young, productive workers, many of whom must come from immigration.

To improve their integration into our American community, we should:

-- Provide low-cost English classes, in cooperation with local civic and religious groups, where immigrants build personal ties with co-ethnics and native-born Americans. These connections foster assimilation and help newcomers navigate our complex institutions.

-- Invest in public education, including civics education and higher education. During the first half of the 20th century, schools were critical to preparing children of immigrants for success and fostering a shared national identity.

-- Assist communities experiencing rapid increases in immigration, which is traumatic for those arriving here and for receiving communities. Schools and hospitals bear disproportionate costs of immigration, while the economic and fiscal benefits from immigration accrue nationally.

Assimilation does not mean immigrants shed ethnic identities. Our national experience with hyphenated identities shows that good Americans can retain a strong sense of ethnic identity.

We've lived our national motto, "E Pluribus Unum" ("Out of Many, One"), better than any other country. But we ought not to airbrush our ancestors' difficulties in assimilation, nor fail to match our forebears' efforts to help integrate immigrants. Government, churches, libraries, civic organizations and businesses must cooperate to address this challenge, as they did a century ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/02/AR2010070204359.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

[bronclvr]

Justice Dept. challenges Ariz. immigration law

The U.S. Justice Department is filing a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigrants, setting the stage for a clash between the federal government and state over the nation's toughest immigration crackdown.

The planned lawsuit was confirmed to The Associated Press by a Justice Department official with knowledge of the plans. The official didn't want to be identified before a public announcement planned for later Tuesday.

The lawsuit will argue that Arizona's new measure requiring state and local police to question and possibly arrest illegal immigrants during the enforcement of other laws, like traffic stops, usurps federal authority.

Tuesday's action has been expected for weeks. President Barack Obama has called the state law misguided. Supporters say it is a reasonable reaction to federal inaction on immigration.

The law requires officers, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if there's a reasonable suspicion that they are in the country illegally.

Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed the law in April, and it was set to go into effect July 29. The lawsuit could delay implementation of the law.

Arizona passed the law after years of frustration over problems associated with illegal immigration, including drug trafficking and violent kidnappings. The state is the biggest gateway into the U.S. for illegal immigrants, and is home to an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants.

The lawsuit is expected to be announced by Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security secretary Janet Napolitano, a former Arizona governor.

President Barack Obama addressed the Arizona law in a speech on immigration reform last week. He touched on one of the major concerns of federal officials, that other states were poised to follow Arizona by crafting their own immigration enforcement laws.

"As other states and localities go their own ways, we face the prospect that different rules for immigration will apply in different parts of the country," Obama said. "A patchwork of local immigration rules where we all know one clear national standard is needed."

The law makes it a state crime for legal immigrants to not carry their immigration documents and bans day laborers and people who seek their services from blocking traffic on streets.

The law also prohibits government agencies from having policies that restrict the enforcement of federal immigration law and lets Arizonans file lawsuits against agencies that hinder immigration enforcement.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38107328/ns/politics-white_house/

[cutthemdown]

That would be nice if something could be done about jobs.

I don't know about you, but I'm not hearing any ideas or solutions from the right - just attacks on the current administration and a desire to see Obama fail with the hope that said failure will return them to power.

Also, I think a lot of folks are still in denial about the fact that all of those good-paying jobs that were shipped overseas under BushCo are not coming back.

My good paying job was shipped over seas under Clinton. Don't think the outsourcing was a left right thing. Our whole govt was in on that IMO. Hell Clinton was as much for NAFTA as Bush SR and Bush JR were.

[barryr]

I never said you posted anything in support of amnesty - I asked you to produce even one thread where you called Bush out for seeking amnesty and work visas.

To make it even simpler for you, show me even one thread you have started to take any republican to task for anything that pertains to illegal immigration.

Until you can do this, then you are a hypocrite and a shill whose only interest in the issue is its usefulness as a political football.

You are the assclown most believe you are. I have ripped McCain more than once for not doing anything about the border when he had the chance. I don't feel the need to search for my posts. You want them, you do it slappyboy. Finding a post where you criticize Obama would take awhile to find though.

[barryr]

My good paying job was shipped over seas under Clinton. Don't think the outsourcing was a left right thing. Our whole govt was in on that IMO. Hell Clinton was as much for NAFTA as Bush SR and Bush JR were.

That's too deep for slapboy to understand. It has to be a "righty" thing or he doesn't know what position to take on it.

[Pony Boy]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You are the assclown most believe you are. I have ripped McCain more than once for not doing anything about the border when he had the chance. I don't feel the need to search for my posts. You want them, you do it slappyboy. Finding a post where you criticize Obama would take awhile to find though.

The poster boy for hypocrisy with another dodge.

You start several new threads each day to condemn Obama and other Democrats for this and that - yet you can't even point to one thread you started during the Bush era to call the court-appointed fraud to account for his proposals for amnesty and work visas.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

My good paying job was shipped over seas under Clinton. Don't think the outsourcing was a left right thing. Our whole govt was in on that IMO. Hell Clinton was as much for NAFTA as Bush SR and Bush JR were.

Outsourcing happened on Clinton's watch, it's true, but it didn't happen on anywhere near the same scale as it did under Bush and the repukes.

Remember: The court-appointed fraud presided over the first net job loss since Hoover.

NAFTA was a monstrous mistake, obviously, but I don't think Clinton knew it was going to turn out that way. He was expecting that there would be a level playing field with regard to worker's wages, environmental standards, etc.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/wm-Jobs.jpg

[TonyR]

I'll wait for the resident righties to give some credit where due, but certainly won't hold my breath.

Deportations in 2010 and 2009 were higher than at any time during the Bush administration -- something that has to be viewed within the context of a declining undocumented immigrant population.Of course, when Bush wanted to press immigration reform, both Kyl and McCain were on board. Now they're attacking Obama for lax enforcement, even though he's taken a harder line on deportations than Bush ever did.

http://blog.prospect.org/blog/adam_serwer/2010/07/the_obama_administration_and_i_content.html