PDA

View Full Version : California trying to ensure its place as the laughing stock of the USA


OBF1
06-21-2010, 04:01 PM
What in the world is going to be next? This state has enough problems with crappy drivers and traffic as it is, this would make it even worse.... if that is possible.

SACRAMENTO, Calif. As electronic highway billboards flashing neon advertisements become more prevalent, the next frontier in distracted driving is already approaching ad-blaring license plates.

The California Legislature is considering a bill that would allow the state to begin researching the use of electronic license plates for vehicles. The move is intended as a moneymaker for a state facing a $19 billion deficit.

The device would mimic a standard license plate when the vehicle is in motion but would switch to digital ads or other messages when it is stopped for more than four seconds, whether in traffic or at a red light. The license plate number would remain visible at all times in some section of the screen.

In emergencies, the plates could be used to broadcast Amber Alerts or traffic information.

The bill's author, Democratic Sen. Curren Price of Los Angeles, said California would be the first state to implement such technology if the state Department of Motor Vehicles ultimately recommends the widespread use of the plates. He said other states are exploring something similar.

Interested advertisers would contract directly with the DMV, thus opening a new revenue stream for the state, Price said.

"We're just trying to find creative ways of generating additional revenues," he said. "It's an exciting marriage of technology with need, and an opportunity to keep California in the forefront."

At least one company, San Francisco-based Smart Plate, is developing a digital electronic license plate but has not yet reached the production stage. The bill would authorize the DMV to work with Smart Plate or another company to explore the use and safety of electronic license plates.

The company's chief executive, M. Conrad Jordan, said he envisioned the license plates as not just another advertising venue, but as a way to display personalized messages broadcasting the driver's allegiance to a sports team or an alma mater, for example.

"The idea is not to turn a motorist's vehicle into a mobile billboard, but rather to create a platform for motorists to show their support for existing good working organizations," he said.


Stay classy California :thumbs:

Los Broncos
06-21-2010, 04:07 PM
Might as well put my company's name on mine.

Carmelo15
06-21-2010, 04:10 PM
Arizona is already the laughing stock of the United States.

Smiling Assassin27
06-21-2010, 04:27 PM
Just like a heroin junkie willing to shoot up drano. California's so addicted to spending that it's willing to do ANYTHING to get its hands on more taxpayer money to feed the need to shop.

New state motto: California, the nation's crack whore. We prefer to be pretty on the outside.

That One Guy
06-21-2010, 04:42 PM
I guess I'd want to see more details but there's no way I'm gonna drive around blindly advertising for someone. There's no way they'd force that. Maybe you could get free plates or something by allowing the advertising to be there, who knows.

Thankfully I'm not going to California anytime soon.

scorpio
06-21-2010, 05:27 PM
Nothing could possibly go wrong with electronic license plates.

LRtagger
06-21-2010, 06:01 PM
Hilarious. People are going to have to take their car into the shop to get their license plate installed and serviced.

"Yea, I'm going to be late for work today. My license plate is acting up, have to take it to the shop."

worm
06-21-2010, 06:09 PM
Thank God. Now I won't have to spend the time needed to pull out my screwdriver and swap plates when I boost.

I can press a button and hack the plate. Should definitely be a time saver.

Mr.Meanie
06-21-2010, 06:14 PM
Nothing could possibly go wrong with electronic license plates.

Ha!

Archer81
06-21-2010, 06:19 PM
Arizona is already the laughing stock of the United States.


No. Still California.


:Broncos:

That One Guy
06-21-2010, 06:36 PM
Nothing could possibly go wrong with electronic license plates.

And that's why it'd be a joke. Force advertising on me and mine will mysteriously short every time I have some free time to go get another. It'd just be a moral victory but over time they'd realize the cost isn't really worth the investment, I think. Someone could walk down the road smacking plates with a hammer and people'd shrug their shoulders as it'd be state money being lost.

Definitely a bad idea.

ZONA
06-21-2010, 06:47 PM
Arizona is already the laughing stock of the United States.

Yeah, I guess that's why people keep moving here by the droves every year. That's why Pheonix has now become the 5th largest city in the US. Because everybody hates it here so much, they would never consider moving here, hahahaha. Hilarious!

Mr.Meanie
06-21-2010, 06:50 PM
Yeah, I guess that's why people keep moving here by the droves every year. That's why Pheonix has now become the 5th largest city in the US. Because everybody hates it here so much, they would never consider moving here, hahahaha. Hilarious!

You must be referring to 2007...

rmsanger
06-21-2010, 06:50 PM
God bless Arizona and the Governor for such a bold move to keep America 'American'.

I feel overcome by joy to think that there are still good politicians out there.

Cuba libre!

Garcia Bronco
06-21-2010, 07:00 PM
Arizona is already the laughing stock of the United States.

No...it's already Cali.

WolfpackGuy
06-21-2010, 07:05 PM
They should add pieces of flair.

Archer81
06-21-2010, 07:13 PM
They should add pieces of flair.


27 pieces.

To be exact.

:Broncos:

cutthemdown
06-21-2010, 07:21 PM
I guess I'd want to see more details but there's no way I'm gonna drive around blindly advertising for someone. There's no way they'd force that. Maybe you could get free plates or something by allowing the advertising to be there, who knows.

Thankfully I'm not going to California anytime soon.

I guess the ticket would be you pay the cars regestration, you get to advertise on plate? I could see that but obviously no one wold advertise for some company for free.

cutthemdown
06-21-2010, 07:23 PM
How states live with no beaches, no surfer girls, no ocean sportfishing is beyond me.

Yeah we have it bad in calif. Sure we have problems of our own but it's still the most important state in the union. Don't forget we need only your water!!!! You need our money. Even with our state broke we are more important then Arizona.

Archer81
06-21-2010, 07:27 PM
How states live with no beaches, no surfer girls, no ocean sportfishing is beyond me.

Yeah we have it bad in calif. Sure we have problems of our own but it's still the most important state in the union. Don't forget we need only your water!!!! You need our money. Even with our state broke we are more important then Arizona.


California needs Arizona's power, water and prisons.

And I would label a 19 billion dollar deficit as more than a problem.

:Broncos:

DBroncos4life
06-21-2010, 07:29 PM
How states live with no beaches, no surfer girls, no ocean sportfishing is beyond me.

Yeah we have it bad in calif. Sure we have problems of our own but it's still the most important state in the union. Don't forget we need only your water!!!! You need our money. Even with our state broke we are more important then Arizona.

They don't spend more then they make.

barryr
06-21-2010, 07:33 PM
CA has been run by idiot politicians for years and need other states' help for power and water and has run many people and businesses away with their high taxes. That's how great CA has been doing.

Arizona is known for not paying its teachers worth a damn and used to be as bad as CA when it came to doing nothing about the border.

cutthemdown
06-21-2010, 08:52 PM
They don't spend more then they make.

What about how california has given more then feds give us back though. Other states get more dollars from feds then they give. Whe because of states like CA, TX, FL and some other big ones Ill who knows maybe even AZ but I doubt it. More then likely Ariz has grown because of CA.

cutthemdown
06-21-2010, 08:53 PM
We do elect some stupid politicians I agree with you there. But for rest of the country to start act like Calif is a leach is a ****ing joke and you all know it.

baja
06-21-2010, 09:01 PM
Why does California have all them Mexican names?

Garcia Bronco
06-21-2010, 09:06 PM
What about how california has given more then feds give us back though. Other states get more dollars from feds then they give. Whe because of states like CA, TX, FL and some other big ones Ill who knows maybe even AZ but I doubt it. More then likely Ariz has grown because of CA.

there are rougly 12 donor states GA, CA, CO, FL, NY are 5 of them

Hercules Rockefeller
06-21-2010, 09:06 PM
We do elect some stupid politicians I agree with you there. But for rest of the country to start act like Calif is a leach is a ****ing joke and you all know it.

Don't ask for a federal bailout because you can't control your budget, and then the rest of us won't consider you a leech.

Anaximines
06-21-2010, 10:12 PM
How states live with no beaches, no surfer girls, no ocean sportfishing is beyond me.

Yeah we have it bad in calif. Sure we have problems of our own but it's still the most important state in the union. Don't forget we need only your water!!!! You need our money. Even with our state broke we are more important then Arizona.

Preach!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-21-2010, 10:15 PM
Oh no! They're studying something! That'll definitely make them a laughingstock in good ol' Murrca.

broncocalijohn
06-21-2010, 10:59 PM
Arizona is already the laughing stock of the United States.

only to guys like you who studied Chicano studies and didnt bother to read the immigration law bill signed by Gov. Brewer. But dont let your obvious slant on good ole USA get in the way to deter you from bashing my state like it deserves.
I want to jump on the mobile advertising plate and have the RAIDERS SUCK streaming on the plates. If any company paid for this, they would also have to pay for the driver to accept the mobile advertising. F bumper stickers as we get this genius idea from the morons that bring us $22 billion deficits every year.

broncocalijohn
06-21-2010, 11:06 PM
How states live with no beaches, no surfer girls, no ocean sportfishing is beyond me.

Yeah we have it bad in calif. Sure we have problems of our own but it's still the most important state in the union. Don't forget we need only your water!!!! You need our money. Even with our state broke we are more important then Arizona.

You sound like those socialist in Sacaramento. They think they can charge us for anything because we have everything you describe. Problem is that when you cant afford a house or gas for the beach, surfer girls wont talk to you because the state made you broke and you hocked your deep sea fishing gear to pay the mortgage, your next move is to move to Texas, Arizona, Oregon, Colorado or Nevada. The last middle class citizen please turn off the lights when you leave (unless a rolling black out did it for ya).

footstepsfrom#27
06-22-2010, 12:10 AM
Having lived in both northern and souther California, I loved it out there except for the traffic. I'd glady swap living in Texass any day.

Advertising on plates is a bad idea, but Amber alerts...that's interesting. How often do you see or hear the info once and forget it minutes later? But spread an Amber alert over a million automobile license plates moving throughout a city all day...that might actualy work.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-22-2010, 12:19 AM
California trying to ensure its place as the laughing stock of the USA

Sorry - Texas has that distinction locked up 'til the end of time.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-22-2010, 12:21 AM
CA has been run by idiot politicians for years...

The biggest 'idiot politician' from CA was elected president by clueless half-wits like you back in 1980.

It's been downhill every since.

Archer81
06-22-2010, 12:25 AM
The biggest 'idiot politician' from CA was elected president by clueless half-wits like you back in 1980.

It's been downhill every since.


Half wits are better than peanut farmers and community organizers.

Just saying.

:Broncos:

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-22-2010, 12:31 AM
Half wits are better than peanut farmers and community organizers.

Just saying.

:Broncos:

Only for those who live in a world where facts don't matter.

Miss I.
06-22-2010, 12:40 AM
a. LABF could you turn off the blinking avatar, it's giving me seizures.
b. CA, AZ, lived in both, liked them both, but it's all in what you are looking for, I can't afford to live in CA anymore (for the record, love San Diego and Santa Barbara best with San Fran the next up there). I haven't read the AZ bill so I can't speak to it.
c. My favorite state is CO, now if all the damned SoCal peeps would stop moving out of CA to CO and AZ and jacking up housing prices that would help. ;D I kid, I kid, kind of. ;D

As to the thread, electronic message plates are a poorly conceived idea and I can just see it being more of a problem then a help. Just have a big yard sale and auction off idiot celebrities, that should free up some capital and get rid of some idiots too. ;D

Archer81
06-22-2010, 12:48 AM
Only for those who live in a world where facts don't matter.


Or wait 51 or 444 days to actually solve a crisis.


:Broncos:

24champ
06-22-2010, 01:29 AM
California's problems are numerous. It's very complex to try and solve these problems. There is a long list of problems that have contributed to the current state problems. There's no quick fix in sight, it's going to be a long road...

Broncos4Life
06-22-2010, 03:21 AM
No. Still California.


:Broncos:



Why? Because the state has to do what the fed gov't won't do to secure the borders?

baja
06-22-2010, 05:34 AM
a. LABF could you turn off the blinking avatar, it's giving me seizures.
b. CA, AZ, lived in both, liked them both, but it's all in what you are looking for, I can't afford to live in CA anymore (for the record, love San Diego and Santa Barbara best with San Fran the next up there). I haven't read the AZ bill so I can't speak to it.
c. My favorite state is CO, now if all the damned SoCal peeps would stop moving out of CA to CO and AZ and jacking up housing prices that would help. ;D I kid, I kid, kind of. ;D

<b>As to the thread, electronic message plates are a poorly conceived idea and I can just see it being more of a problem then a help. Just have a big yard sale and auction off idiot celebrities, that should free up some capital and get rid of some idiots too. ;D

Well it would give Oprah another cause to rally the nation against. I pledge to not read license plate advertising while I am driving.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-22-2010, 07:18 AM
Just have a big yard sale and auction off idiot celebrities, that should free up some capital and get rid of some idiots too. ;D

Nah - it wouldn't take long before you'd be begging them to come back.

Everybody knows your average red state rube wouldn't have a life if it weren't for Blockbuster Video or Netflix. Ha!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-22-2010, 07:43 AM
Or wait 51 or 444 days to actually solve a crisis.


:Broncos:

Damn that Obama! He should have been underwater with a snorkel and a freeze-ray to stop time and solve that oil crisis. That's what Raygun would have done!

Whatever you say, sir.

bronco militia
06-22-2010, 07:52 AM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. As electronic highway billboards flashing neon advertisements become more prevalent, the next frontier in distracted driving is already approaching ad-blaring license plates.

:

LOL! they'll have to be in spanish

gtown
06-22-2010, 08:14 AM
California's problems are numerous. It's very complex to try and solve these problems. There is a long list of problems that have contributed to the current state problems. There's no quick fix in sight, it's going to be a long road...

They could start by teaching Californians and its politicians basic math skills. That would make a world of difference.

Phantom
06-22-2010, 08:40 AM
Or wait 51 or 444 days to actually solve a crisis.


:Broncos:

Damn that Obama! He should have been underwater with a snorkel and a freeze-ray to stop time and solve that oil crisis. That's what Raygun would have done!

Whatever you say, sir.


Ah, that wasn't a statement about Obama.

Phantom
06-22-2010, 08:42 AM
Can't wait to see my first 'Hacked muff-diving ad' on the plate in front of me with my kids in the car.

chadta
06-22-2010, 08:48 AM
were laughing at you up here in ontario canada too, this was a topic on talk radio this morning.

just so you know

is it true that you guys get a vote everytime they want to raise taxes ? thats the way its being played out up here.

Tombstone RJ
06-22-2010, 09:18 AM
Growing up in Colorado, I've seen the influx of CA morons bring the very worst of CA politics into the state. The ironic thing is people leave CA because they can't afford to live there and they move to CO and overpay for real estate, over inflating housing values. They also leave CA because they hate what it has become but then they bring their liberal crap to CO and just cause more problems.

When I graduated from HS I had a good friend go to SoCal for college. He once told me he hated just about everything he experienced in CA because everyone was so entrenched in racial strife. Blacks hated whites (he is white and was really shocked by the hate he experienced from blacks) Latinos hate blacks, Asians hate everyone, etc... for a liberal state that wants to make everyone happy, no one was happy and racial strife was rampant. My friend could not understand it. But then again, he didn't grow up in the cess pool that is SoCal. Needless to say, he moved back to CO after he graduated...

Durango
06-22-2010, 09:58 AM
I briefly attended an outfitters convention/product conference in San Francisco in February and was outraged by the add-on taxes and surcharges for hotels and meals. I don't have the receipts right in front of me but I can say with some confidence the taxes and surcharges came to about a third of the costs. That's a 33% tax folks. It's all so out of control in that state, I honestly believe they will file some kind of bankruptcy just to force the federal government, and us taxpayers, to bail them out.

That One Guy
06-22-2010, 10:05 AM
I briefly attended an outfitters convention/product conference in San Francisco in February and was outraged by the add-on taxes and surcharges for hotels and meals. I don't have the receipts right in front of me but I can say with some confidence the taxes and surcharges came to about a third of the costs. That's a 33% tax folks. It's all so out of control in that state, I honestly believe they will file some kind of bankruptcy just to force the federal government, and us taxpayers, to bail them out.

Wow, I gripe because the states around me have 15-20% taxes on hotels. These taxes will just continue to increase though. It's a way to raise revenue without anyone actually having to pay up. And in my case, I didn't know about it until I am signing the credit card receipt usually. Let a struggling state get ahold of such a shady tactic and they'll run with it.

Beantown Bronco
06-22-2010, 10:05 AM
Can't wait to see my first 'Hacked muff-diving ad' on the plate in front of me with my kids in the car.

So long as it's not an ad for the next Ghostbusters movie, you're good to go.

baja
06-22-2010, 10:19 AM
So long as it's not an ad for the next Ghostbusters movie, you're good to go.

I keep seeing this Ghost Buster reference, what is it about?

Beantown Bronco
06-22-2010, 10:28 AM
I keep seeing this Ghost Buster reference, what is it about?

Post #1......though you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't read the entire thing. It's a classic thread.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=80542

Meck77
06-22-2010, 10:56 AM
How states live with no beaches, no surfer girls, no ocean sportfishing is beyond me.

Yeah we have it bad in calif. Sure we have problems of our own but it's still the most important state in the union. Don't forget we need only your water!!!! You need our money. Even with our state broke we are more important then Arizona.

Cali only needs water and we need your money? You guys don't have any money. When your revenues are less than your expenses it means you are BROKE.

Back to water. Sure you have the ocean for now (see BP oil spill). Who's to say the precious water you receive from Colorado will always be there for you? Wouldn't take much for someone or some "organization" to change that if they really wanted to. 9-11 was unthinkable. The gulf oil disaster seemed unthinkable. California not being able to get Colorado River water. Unthinkable or inevitable?

kappys
06-22-2010, 11:07 AM
I briefly attended an outfitters convention/product conference in San Francisco in February and was outraged by the add-on taxes and surcharges for hotels and meals. I don't have the receipts right in front of me but I can say with some confidence the taxes and surcharges came to about a third of the costs. That's a 33% tax folks. It's all so out of control in that state, I honestly believe they will file some kind of bankruptcy just to force the federal government, and us taxpayers, to bail them out.

NYC is even worse. Add on taxes/surcharges to stay at a Manhattan hotel approached 50%

Rohirrim
06-22-2010, 12:25 PM
Why does California have all them Mexican names?

Spanish, not Mexican. Big difference.

I've always thought it would be a great idea to have an electronic banner across the back of your car that flashes messages. Instead of bumper stickers, you can input a new message every day. I came up with one the other day I'd like to put on my car:

Stop praying to God. It only pisses him off.

Anyway, my idea is to have a voice activated keyboard so you can put messages in for the car behind you as you drive, like, "Get off my bumper, asshole!" I also want to put one of those windshield spritzers on my back bumper, aimed backwards and filled with oil, so when some tailgater starts riding my bumper I can push a button and splurt oil all over their windshield. Actually, what I'd really like is a car that shoots RPGs but I doubt the 2nd amendment covers that.

24champ
06-22-2010, 12:34 PM
They could start by teaching Californians and its politicians basic math skills. That would make a world of difference.

You are correct, it would be nice if they knew their math, especially with Californians...who continually vote on stupid bond measures that have a redicoulus interest rate attached to them. That's part of the reason we're broke. Another reason is that California's politicians have so many special interests forcing them to pay them money, aka Teachers Union (which is probably the most powerful union in the Country).

They could start by treating businesses like they are wanted here in California. They are currently overtaxed and the environmental laws we have also put great strain on the businesses. This kind of laws essentially forces jobs to go overseas. As well with the fact that businesses have to hire illegals because they work for cheap wages.

Like I said, there is a long list of things to work on here.

baja
06-22-2010, 12:35 PM
Spanish, not Mexican. Big difference.

I've always thought it would be a great idea to have an electronic banner across the back of your car that flashes messages. Instead of bumper stickers, you can input a new message every day. I came up with one the other day I'd like to put on my car:

Stop praying to God. It only pisses him off.

Anyway, my idea is to have a voice activated keyboard so you can put messages in for the car behind you as you drive, like, "Get off my bumper, a-hole!" I also want to put one of those windshield spritzers on my back bumper, aimed backwards and filled with oil, so when some tailgater starts riding my bumper I can push a button and splurt oil all over their windshield. Actually, what I'd really like is a car that shoots RPGs but I doubt the 2nd amendment covers that.

That's so funny. I have been touting this for years.

I envision the banner on the top of the car and with preprogramed statements directed at bad drivers that you chose depending on the situation and part of the usage of the tool.

baja
06-22-2010, 12:39 PM
Another tool I would like my car equipped with is a device than would explode the sound system in cars that shake the ground. When I feel the base hitting my heart I would simply push a button and hear a loud pop and as I look over at the offending driver i see smoke curling out of his now open window.

broncocalijohn
06-22-2010, 12:44 PM
were laughing at you up here in ontario canada too, this was a topic on talk radio this morning.

just so you know

is it true that you guys get a vote everytime they want to raise taxes ? thats the way its being played out up here.

not exactly. We have propositions where we can defeat an extension to a tax (like Repubs, Dems and Independents did a few elections ago) to not kill us even more. Prop. 13 kept the property tax from escalating at an unstoppable rate. Now it is at around 2% per year (if housing prices go up) and have some counties working together to have people 55 and over to transfer their property tax rate/amount. The state has a 2/3rds vote on all new taxes but that hasnt stopped Sacramento (which has almost a 2/3rds Dem. assembly/senate) from trying. Sometimes the word "tax" is changed to "fee". We all know what it really means. Once Calsters and Calpers retirement funds need the $100 billion from the state aka residents to pay for the pensions, you wont see many tax payers sticking around to be billboard advertisements for the state.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-22-2010, 06:02 PM
When I graduated from HS I had a good friend go to SoCal for college. He once told me he hated just about everything he experienced in CA because everyone was so entrenched in racial strife. Blacks hated whites (he is white and was really shocked by the hate he experienced from blacks) Latinos hate blacks, Asians hate everyone, etc... for a liberal state that wants to make everyone happy, no one was happy and racial strife was rampant. My friend could not understand it. But then again, he didn't grow up in the cess pool that is SoCal.

So we're supposed to take your word for all this idiotic nonsense based on some second-hand anecdote?

Wow - the things some people accept as evidence these days.

Actually, just the opposite is true - SoCal is about the most relaxed and accepting place you can go in America when it comes to racial, ethnic, and cultural diversity.

Your friend's description sounds more like the East Coast.


Needless to say, he moved back to CO after he graduated...

Where the men are men and the sheep are scared, eh? :giggle: