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cmhargrove
06-21-2010, 03:01 PM
I'm not a big NBA guy, and i'm not a big MLS (FIFA) guy. But every time I watch a game, I always find myself chuckling at the wussies faking all the injuries.

Sometimes the acting is so bad (grabbing the wrong body part) that it's just too hard to take.

I was watching a replay of Portugal vs. Korea this morning and just found myself laughing out loud at all the faces and prat falls. So, a poll on this non-football day.

OBF1
06-21-2010, 03:04 PM
this is one of the many things that turn me off to soccer. 1 minute the guy is being carried off on a gurney, the next he is running up and down the field.... Biggest floppers since Vlade Divac.

Br0nc0Buster
06-21-2010, 03:06 PM
prolly MLS but Paul Pierce can cry with the best of them

Los Broncos
06-21-2010, 03:08 PM
I'd say soccer from what I've seen.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-21-2010, 03:12 PM
eh, a lot of the soccer injuries come from being cleated and **** like that. So its horrible pain at the outset, but then subsides. They arent always faking that.

The Joker
06-21-2010, 03:13 PM
Soccer is being ruined by it, some absolutely pathetic displays in the World Cup.

underrated29
06-21-2010, 03:14 PM
I have only watched part of 1 soccer game BUT-


Manu Ginblowme. I hate that guy. I am not sure if he even is still on the spurs or mavs or whatever texas team. But that guy is the biggest baby ever. I can't blame him because it is effective, but when you are competing to beat the other team because of skill.....yeah.


Pussys

Smiling Assassin27
06-21-2010, 03:21 PM
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underrated29
06-21-2010, 03:31 PM
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Ok-

Soccer takes the cake. My fav is the guy who head butts the other dude and he falls down like he is hurt. I'd like to see them play a real contact sport like hockey or football.

That One Guy
06-21-2010, 03:52 PM
Soccer, definitely. They should review and give yellow cards after games if a player faked an injury where there wasn't even contact. Some are so insanely obvious that it really does make a mockery of the sport.

bowtown
06-21-2010, 03:56 PM
Brandon Marshall

OABB
06-21-2010, 04:10 PM
26743

enjolras
06-21-2010, 04:11 PM
Although a lot of the clips in that sniper video aren't dives at all. It's really easy to get upended when someone is diving at your feet. Even if you don't make contact, you still go down just trying to avoid it. That's not a dive.

OABB
06-21-2010, 04:21 PM
Although a lot of the clips in that sniper video aren't dives at all. It's really easy to get upended when someone is diving at your feet. Even if you don't make contact, you still go down just trying to avoid it. That's not a dive.

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DenverBrit
06-21-2010, 04:23 PM
I can remember matches against Italy and Argentina when their players would fall to the turf in apparent agony whenever an opposing player was close enough.

The crowd would chant "Oscar, Oscar".......acknowledging the 'acting.'

I don't think any sport has as many 'floppers' as soccer....especially the Latin countries in Europe and S. America.

Peoples Champ
06-21-2010, 04:32 PM
this is funny

gunns
06-21-2010, 04:34 PM
I always thought it was the NBA, ALL of the NBA, but after watching soccer for these past couple weeks, damn those soccer guys have it nailed, and aren't even good at making it look good, and the refs in soccer are dumber than the ones in the NBA.

worm
06-21-2010, 05:05 PM
Soccer should have a ref watching each game live on closed circuit and looking just for flops.

Additionally, having only one ref on the field for a Word Cup game is reediculous.

Hulamau
06-21-2010, 05:37 PM
Would watch Ajax- Amsterdam's team a lot at the stadium there and they are carrying these posers off right and left writhing in agony after getting shot like a deer and then you see them yucking it up on the sidelines in 30 seconds with their teamates.

Most of these pansy's would be ground beef playing a half of
'real' football NFL style! :-)

That One Guy
06-21-2010, 05:39 PM
Although a lot of the clips in that sniper video aren't dives at all. It's really easy to get upended when someone is diving at your feet. Even if you don't make contact, you still go down just trying to avoid it. That's not a dive.

Getting your foot hit and stumbling is reasonable. Getting a foot hit and acting like you just took a bat to the knees is not. Only once every couple games can you see a player stumble and retain his balance. Most take any opportunity to hit the dirt.

BlaK-Argentina
06-21-2010, 05:59 PM
The funny part is how people that have no idea what american football really is tell me "Go play soccer, a real men sport!"

2KBack
06-21-2010, 06:11 PM
Getting your foot hit and stumbling is reasonable. Getting a foot hit and acting like you just took a bat to the knees is not. Only once every couple games can you see a player stumble and retain his balance. Most take any opportunity to hit the dirt.

even going down at those speeds is acceptable, but these guys go full ragdoll. Getting hit in the leg does not cause your arms to flail wildly above your head.

That One Guy
06-21-2010, 06:37 PM
even going down at those speeds is acceptable, but these guys go full ragdoll. Getting hit in the leg does not cause your arms to flail wildly above your head.

And apparently grabbing your face is a requirement. Someone gets kicked and grabs their face, it seems.

houghtam
06-21-2010, 06:43 PM
I've always considered it part of the game of soccer. I'm not too sure on the intricacies of the rules, but doesn't faking an injury effectively lengthen the game by adding to the "extra time"? If that's the case, then it's more strategy than being wusses.

WABronco
06-21-2010, 07:00 PM
Ya, I've watched soccer for like 10 minutes these last few weeks...I'd have to say ya it just turns me off like wow omg woosies.

That One Guy
06-21-2010, 07:13 PM
I've always considered it part of the game of soccer. I'm not too sure on the intricacies of the rules, but doesn't faking an injury effectively lengthen the game by adding to the "extra time"? If that's the case, then it's more strategy than being wusses.

The catch there is that through all the faked injuries, scoring celebrations, etc, they still never add more than about 2 mins per half, 3 max. Most I've seen in this tournament for a whole game was 5 mins. In reality, one guy being stretchered off probably takes a solid 2-3 mins alone.

cmhargrove
06-21-2010, 07:16 PM
This one is pretty funny

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ElwayMD
06-21-2010, 07:17 PM
This is the biggest reason that soccer will never gain mainstream acceptance in America. We can't stand the BS of flopping. If we see someone go down they better be coming back on the field with some sort of bandage.

FireFly
06-21-2010, 07:21 PM
I'm a huge soccer fan and this is an unfortunate phenomenon that has snuck into the game. It won't be eliminated because so often players are rewarded for it.

That One Guy
06-21-2010, 07:23 PM
I'm a huge soccer fan and this is an unfortunate phenomenon that has snuck into the game. It won't be eliminated because so often players are rewarded for it.

As with any loophole, the only way to close it is to make the detriment outweigh the benefits. Carding or even suspensions for complete faking of injuries (only the very worst cases) would take it a long way and take away the dives that most hurt soccer's credibility.

2KBack
06-21-2010, 07:30 PM
And apparently grabbing your face is a requirement. Someone gets kicked and grabs their face, it seems.

seriously, that particular face grab flop is so common, it's like there must be a practiced technique for it.

FireFly
06-21-2010, 07:32 PM
This is the biggest reason that soccer will never gain mainstream acceptance in America. We can't stand the BS of flopping. If we see someone go down they better be coming back on the field with some sort of bandage.

Soccer WILL gain mainstream acceptance. And I'll tell you why. What sport are more and more children playing? Soccer. As more and more mothers deem other sport too "rough", soccer is steadily stealing away from other junior competitions. Which means the next generation is growing up with it. Give it time, it will be main stream. Maybe a few generations, but it will happen.

Beyond that, soccer is a world sport. More so than ANY other team sport. If the US wants to compete in a team sport on a world stage, it will have to be in Soccer. Sure other countries play baseball and basket ball, but not even close to the same level. There are very few country that truely care about those sports.

DHallblows
06-21-2010, 07:50 PM
Fakes injuries? Soccer.
Fakes fouls? Basketball.

Jason in LA
06-21-2010, 08:12 PM
The double flops are too funny. So are the ones where a guy is rolling around in pain, and then he sees the ball coming his way so he pops back up and makes a play on it. Talk about a sport for wussies.

Mogulseeker
06-21-2010, 08:15 PM
Would watch Ajax- Amsterdam's team a lot at the stadium there and they are carrying these posers off right and left writhing in agony after getting shot like a deer and then you see them yucking it up on the sidelines in 30 seconds with their teamates.

Most of these pansy's would be ground beef playing a half of
'real' football NFL style! :-)

Dude, I'm going to be in Maastricht this fall... are you trying to make the Broncos 9ers game?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-21-2010, 09:24 PM
prolly MLS but Paul Pierce can cry with the best of them

:giggle:

Paulina "Wheelchair" Pierce definitely takes the blue ribbon.

broncocalijohn
06-21-2010, 09:49 PM
I'm not a big NBA guy, and i'm not a big MLS (FIFA) guy. But every time I watch a game, I always find myself chuckling at the wussies faking all the injuries.

Sometimes the acting is so bad (grabbing the wrong body part) that it's just too hard to take.

I was watching a replay of Portugal vs. Korea this morning and just found myself laughing out loud at all the faces and prat falls. So, a poll on this non-football day.

You needed a poll for this? I dont watch soccer but I would have a rule that if anyone receives a yellow or red card for a fake injury (Damn drama queens), then they receive the same card for the next game. This is one of the reasons why many hate soccer. Hockey dudes would kick soccer pansies ass left and right. Get 2 teeth knocked out and a gash above the eye that requires 7 stitches..NO PROBLEM! Hockey player will be back by next period if he is slow to walk to the ice.

WABronco
06-21-2010, 10:06 PM
You needed a poll for this? I dont watch soccer but I would have a rule that if anyone receives a yellow or red card for a fake injury (Damn drama queens), then they receive the same card for the next game. This is one of the reasons why many hate soccer. Hockey dudes would kick soccer pansies ass left and right. Get 2 teeth knocked out and a gash above the eye that requires 7 stitches..NO PROBLEM! Hockey player will be back by next period if he is slow to walk to the ice.

True, but there are plenty of guys who make their living in the NHL being aggravators and drawing penalties.

I can't imagine how some of the acting in soccer has gotten to this point...maybe they just hope that the ref wasn't looking, ala Kaka.

UberBroncoMan
06-21-2010, 10:40 PM
Soccer easily... but the Euros *cough* Spurs *cough* in the NBA will do backflips if they are so much as grazed.

Casper Bronco
06-22-2010, 04:37 AM
The 08-09 Denver Broncos. We would have an injured palyer almost every snap it seemed, so we could stop the clock.

Dedhed
06-22-2010, 05:05 AM
Yeah, but in soccer you can get carded for acting. That's cool.

The acting is annoying in soccer, but overall the officiating in the NBA is a bigger turnoff.

ELEVATION
06-22-2010, 05:27 AM
soccer has the worst acting ever....im a huge fan and huge player, and its downright hideous dealing with some of these grown men cry like they do and fake BS fouls and injuries....its absolutely a lack of integrity, and its a big reason why i see people hate on soccer....

i play in a downtown italian league in pordenone italy, and its downright horrible the injustice they do to soccer sometimes....

its completely understandable that people hate the game of soccer becasue of stuff like this the KAKA issue in the world cup is more a blame on the player that faked(keita) than the ref.....its horrible and i hate it

underrated29
06-22-2010, 08:40 AM
True, but there are plenty of guys who make their living in the NHL being aggravators and drawing penalties.

I can't imagine how some of the acting in soccer has gotten to this point...maybe they just hope that the ref wasn't looking, ala Kaka.



Drawing penalties is one thing, because you get the guy to slash you or give you an extra shot. You sucker him in. But most of the time the drawn call is legit. Like someone gets hooked or taken down or slashed, not when someone runs into you and you fall down flailing. But you are right, hockey does have its fair share too. All sports do.

snowspot66
06-22-2010, 09:13 AM
Why are there so few ref's in soccer games? It's a big field. Even hockey has three or four.

cousinal11
06-22-2010, 01:11 PM
Not really "faking injuries", but you can't discuss flopping without mentioning dook basketball.

epicSocialism4tw
06-22-2010, 02:09 PM
The funny part is how people that have no idea what american football really is tell me "Go play soccer, a real men sport!"

That's because in your country, American football is some stupid sport that isnt played with your foot at all where they only play for 10 seconds at a time and nobody every gets anywhere.

epicSocialism4tw
06-22-2010, 02:11 PM
The worst for me are guys like Paul Pierce and Dwyheelchair Wade who act like they are tough guys and then literally cry in front of the whole arena when they get a knock. Both of those guys have had epic crybaby episodes unmatched by athletes in any other sport at any other time in history.

Flex Gunmetal
06-22-2010, 02:15 PM
The worst for me are guys like Paul Pierce and Dwyheelchair Wade who act like they are tough guys and then literally cry in front of the whole arena when they get a knock. Both of those guys have had epic crybaby episodes unmatched by athletes in any other sport at any other time in history.

The worst is that 6 people actually voted for the NBA.

There is so much flopping in soccer that I literally can't watch it without getting pissed off. How do you root for cowards? I can't.

Kaylore
06-22-2010, 02:23 PM
Soccer WILL gain mainstream acceptance. And I'll tell you why. What sport are more and more children playing? Soccer. As more and more mothers deem other sport too "rough", soccer is steadily stealing away from other junior competitions. Which means the next generation is growing up with it. Give it time, it will be main stream. Maybe a few generations, but it will happen.
Sorry but the majority of the youth in my generation played Soccer. We grew up and they still don't care. This would have happened by now if it had any effect, but team fandom has very little to do with what you played as a kid. The majority of Americans didn't play football growing up and it's still king. Nostalgia and fandom is something that's hard to build. Getting kids to play the game can help with certain things that can get in the way (like understanding the rules and appreciating the difficulty of the game) but it has little bearing on what people like when they become adults.

The hard truth is Soccer isn't exciting enough for Americans. There is a lot of running around and not a lot of decisive action. Sometimes next to none. American's like close games, but they like to see the tide change several times. Maybe it will catch on, but I don't ever see it becoming "truly" mainstream. As a culture addicted to instant gratification, Soccer comes up pretty short.

Flex Gunmetal
06-22-2010, 02:52 PM
The short of it is the reason soccer is so popular world-wide is because the 3rd world can play it. All that's required is a ball and an empty space. No equipment.

gtown
06-22-2010, 03:06 PM
I think other countries love soccer because they don't have WWE. Each country has to have one form of entertainment with grown men flopping around and faking injuries.

I disagree that soccer will never become a big sport in this country. MLS is doing well. Several cities are building soccer only stadiums. The influx of hispanic immigrants who play soccer all year round. My old boss runs a soccer camp in suburban Virginia. His camp has grown exponentially in the last decade, so much that it no longer is a weekend thing for him.

DenverBrit
06-22-2010, 04:25 PM
The worst is that 6 people actually voted for the NBA.

There is so much flopping in soccer that I literally can't watch it without getting pissed off. How do you root for cowards? I can't.

It's not cowardice that motivates them, it's an attempt to get a free kick/penalty or the opposing player a yellow or red card.

But it's still annoying....and has been getting worse.

epicSocialism4tw
06-22-2010, 05:56 PM
Sorry but the majority of the youth in my generation played Soccer. We grew up and they still don't care. This would have happened by now if it had any effect, but team fandom has very little to do with what you played as a kid. The majority of Americans didn't play football growing up and it's still king. Nostalgia and fandom is something that's hard to build. Getting kids to play the game can help with certain things that can get in the way (like understanding the rules and appreciating the difficulty of the game) but it has little bearing on what people like when they become adults.

The hard truth is Soccer isn't exciting enough for Americans. There is a lot of running around and not a lot of decisive action. Sometimes next to none. American's like close games, but they like to see the tide change several times. Maybe it will catch on, but I don't ever see it becoming "truly" mainstream. As a culture addicted to instant gratification, Soccer comes up pretty short.

Soccer has already arrived. ESPN is heavily invested in the next world cup as well as European football. Soccer has several of its own channels here available on cable. There's a growing domestic league that keeps adding franchises that sell over 20,000 tickets for every home game.

Its here to stay. You guys just havent been aware of it.

Flex Gunmetal
06-22-2010, 07:30 PM
Soccer has already arrived. ESPN is heavily invested in the next world cup as well as European football. Soccer has several of its own channels here available on cable. There's a growing domestic league that keeps adding franchises that sell over 20,000 tickets for every home game.

Its here to stay. You guys just havent been aware of it.

Nah. The only time it plays on a primary espn or cable station (mls or fifa networks dont count) is the world cup. So in reality, once every 4 years america kinda cares about soccer. Until the US is out of the tournament.

JJJ
06-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Without question soccer. This nonsense actually runs through the very thread of the sport now and is why soccer must be put on a much lower level than real sports.

The proliferation of European players in the NBA is no doubt probably increasing the acceptability of such behaviour. But the NBA was ruined a long time ago anyhow when they got rid of zone defenses so it doesn't matter much. Both sports can't really be taken too seriously.

epicSocialism4tw
06-22-2010, 08:33 PM
Just FYI...there are teams that are known to discourage dives, and our US of A national team is one of them. England is another.

epicSocialism4tw
06-22-2010, 08:36 PM
Nah. The only time it plays on a primary espn or cable station (mls or fifa networks dont count) is the world cup. So in reality, once every 4 years america kinda cares about soccer. Until the US is out of the tournament.

My cable company has FOUR soccer-only channels availbable.

NFL? None.

NBA? One.

MLB? None.

NHL? None.

ESPN has a major deal with FIFA and Europe for games through 2014. Youre going to see alot of soccer on ESPN whether you like it or not.

Breck Bronc
06-22-2010, 09:03 PM
My cable company has FOUR soccer-only channels availbable.

NFL? None.

NBA? One.

MLB? None.

NHL? None.

ESPN has a major deal with FIFA and Europe for games through 2014. Youre going to see alot of soccer on ESPN whether you like it or not.Your cable company sucks. No NFL Network, MLB Network or NHL Network -- Those are my 3 most viewed channels and I rarely have to watch ESPN and their constant NBA crap anymore.

epicSocialism4tw
06-22-2010, 09:14 PM
Your cable company sucks. No NFL Network, MLB Network or NHL Network -- Those are my 3 most viewed channels and I rarely have to watch ESPN and their constant NBA crap anymore.

Nah...this is Texas. NFL is a synonym for "Cowboys". The only team that gets broadcast here is Dallas.

We do have a huge latino population and a large number of German and Czech immigrants in Texas. Soccer is a big sport here.

Taco John
06-22-2010, 09:15 PM
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This is classic. My favorite one is at the :20 mark.