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Dagmar
06-15-2010, 01:24 PM
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The 110th US Open Golf Championship takes place from Thursday 17th to Sunday 20th June. The venue this year is Pebble Beach, on the Monterey peninsula south of San Francisco, possibly the most beautiful golfing venue on the planet. Right on the Pacific coast, Americans often consider it a links course. It does not look or play like a traditional course, but the wind certainly can blow. Unlike many of the members-only courses in the US, you can play at Pebble Beach if you book up well in advance, and are prepared to fork out $600 for a hotel room, which makes you eligible to pay $500 for the green fee. That does, however, include a cart, and will make you much more blase about despatching a dozen new balls into the Pacific on the way round.



The History

The US Open is the second of the four golfing "majors", in the calendar, in age and in prestige (although most Americans might argue with the last). It was first held in 1895 in Rhode Island. The first winner, from a field of 11, took home $150! The early days were dominated by Willie Anderson, whose record of 4 wins has not been beaten. Harry Vardon, six times winner of our Open and inventor of the standard grip, won it in 1900. Between the wars it was dominated by Bobby Jones. Between 1922 and 1930, this amateur won it four times, and was second four times, with an aberrant 11th place on the other occasion.

After the second world war, Ben Hogan ruled the roost, and his brilliant performances and style of play came to shape the US Open ever since. He was renowned for his calculating and strategic play, relentless practice and superb ball striking. By 1948, his record in consecutive appearances in the US Open was 5th, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 1st. He also won the PGA in 48. Then he nearly died in a car crash in 1949 and was not expected to walk again. He was out of hospital after 2 months, and returned to tournament golf 11 months later, finishing 2nd at the LA Open. (How d'ya like them apples, Tiger). Five months later he won the US Open again. He won it again in 51 and for a fourth time in 53, adding two more seconds and a third besides.

In 53, he won at Oakmont, a tough course where par had not previously been broken for 72 holes. He led after every round and later claimed "I have tamed the monster". His win around its tight fairways set the style for the US Open ever since - the USGA want players to emulate Hogan's accuracy by setting the course as tight and as hard as they possibly can.

Jack Nicklaus's first win as a pro was at the 1962 US Open. He was runner up the previous year as an amateur. His third win came when the tournament first came to Pebble Beach in 1972. In very rough wind he came to the 17th, a long par 3 into the wind, with a 3 shot lead. He picked a 1-iron, and his tee shot hit the flagstick and finished inches away. He won a fourth title in 1980, and in 1982 was back at Pebble looking for a fifth in a tournament that came down to a duel with Tom Watson. This time it was Watson who came to 17 with a one shot lead, and pulled his long iron into heavy, heavy rough near the green. Even a bogey looked like a good result, but his miracle chip popped into the hole on the second bounce and the tournament was his.

In 1992, Gil Morgan became the first person in US Open history to reach 10 under par, doing so on the Saturday. He got to -12 after 7 holes, and a 7 shot lead, but the turning weather ensured he did not even feature in the shake up as 40 mph winds scattered the field. Colin Montgomerie, in his first appearance, finished early on Sunday at level par and was congratulated by Jack Nicklaus on winning his first US Open. Sadly for the dour Scot, Tom Kite played a miraculous round and came home at -3 for his only major triumph.

Tiger Woods was responsible for blowing the field away in 2000. Leading from day 1, he shot 12 under par, a record; he won by 15 shots, a record in any major; he only made 6 bogies all week and had no 3-putts.


Neither recent nor historic form plays much part in determining the winner of the US Open, but here's the top 20

1. Tiger Woods
2. Phil Mickelson
3. Lee Westwood - has got the long game, which might be enough to cover his not quite world class short game. Finished 1 shot out of the play-off in 2008. Can he seal the deal?
4. Steve Stricker - has not played much since March. 17th last week was best finish. Hits fairways, great putter, no record of performing well in majors.
5. Jim Furyk - US Open champ in 2003 and has won twice this year. Could be a strong contender.
6. Ian Poulter - 3 events since the Masters, 2 missed cuts and a last. Not going to win at Pebble Beach this week.
7. Ernie Els
8. Luke Donald - drives straight, great putter, recent form, no good in the wind.
9. Paul Casey - drives long, suspect in the wind, missed the cut at the two big events of the year.
10.Rory McIlroy - going to be the happiest player if it is windy, as long as he can keep his cap on on top of that mop. Some great form this year, some missed cuts.
11.Anthony Kim - has never played the AT&T here, which is bizarre, as he is a native Californian. Maybe he does not like the course.
12.Martin Kaymer - very ropey form this year
13.Robert Allenby - Might be this year's random colonial. Couple of runner-up spots this year, couple of missed cuts. Has not won in the US in the last 5 years.
14.Padraig Harrington - Has 4 top 10s and a bunch of missed cuts in his US Open history. Was 2nd with 9 holes to play the last time it was at Pebble Beach. Recovering from a knee op but had a good first round in the last tourney before the championship.
15.Camilo Villegas - Good form early in the year, mediocre recently.
16.Zach Johnson - Former Masters champion won a couple of weeks ago.
17.Retief Goosen - Regarded as a US Open specialist, with two wins and an unflappable temperament.
18.Geoff Ogilvy - 2006 Champion. Won the first event of the year but not much going on since.
19.Y.E. Yang - 2009 PGA champion playing solidly this year.
20.Lucas Glover - Defending champion and a surprise winner last year. Has had a mixed year but it included top 5 finishes at the PGA last year and this year's Players.

FIRST ROUND, THURSDAY, JUNE 17, 2010

No. 1 7:00 D. Pappas | G. Woodland | P. Sheehan
No. 10 7:00 R. Cabrera-Bello| J. Mallinger | S. Allan
No. 1 7:11 S. Marino | G. Havret | C. Warren
No. 10 7:11 M. Ilonen | D. Lamely | J. Morrison
No. 1 7:22 T. Taniguchi | S. Hansen | E. Molinari
No. 10 7:22 B. Gay | S. Khan | B. Van Pelt
No. 1 7:33 F. Molinari | S. Kjeldsen | H. Fujita
No. 10 7:33 C. Villegas | Z. Johnson | L. Donald
No. 1 7:44 T. Clark | K. Choi | M. Weir
No. 10 7:44 R. Goosen | J. Furyk | A. Cabrera
No. 1 7:55 A. Scott | G. Ogilvy | R. Allenby
No. 10 7:55 S. Appleby | R. Sabbatini | S. Ames
No. 1 8:06 M. Kuchar | J. Leonard | S. Verplank
No. 10 8:06 P. Mickelson | P. Harrington | Y. Yang
No. 1 8:17 S. Cink | A-B. An | L. Glover
No. 10 8:17 D. Frost | K. Yokoo | E. Axley
No. 1 8:28 I. Poulter | Y. Ikeda | H. Stenson
No. 10 8:28 N. Watney | H. Mahan | R. Barnes
No. 1 8:39 T. Immelman | R. Karlsson | D. Toms
No. 10 8:39 J. Dufner | T. Jaidee | R. McGowan
No. 1 8:50 J. Gore | A. Atwal | J. Herman
No. 10 8:50 K. Na | A-B. Martin | M. Bettencourt
No. 1 9:01 A - A. Putnam | T. Tryon | H. Leon
No. 10 9:01 C. Barlow | K. Jones | R. Gates
No. 1 9:12 K. Eger | A. Martin | J. Curran
No. 10 9:12 D. McCarthy | A-J. Bramlett | T. Hampshire
No. 1 12:30 S. Wheatcroft | A-M. Hoffmann | R. Karlberg
No. 10 12:30 T. Pilkadaris | R. Barcelo | G. Boyd
No. 1 12:41 M. Leishman | R. Echenique | J. Rollins
No. 10 12:41 J. Lucquin | C. Stroud | G. Maybin
No. 1 12:52 R. Mediate | G. McDowell | S. Micheel
No. 10 12:52 S. Dyson | J. Henry | A. Cejka
No. 1 1:03 D. Duval | T. Lehman | B. Curtis
No. 10 1:03 M. Campbell | S. Noh | P. Goydos
No. 1 1:14 S. Garcia | S. Stricker | P. Casey
No. 10 1:14 A. Baddeley | P. Martin | R. Davies
No. 1 1:25 B. Estes | B. De Jonge | B. Davis
No. 10 1:25 A. Quiros | R. Moore | M. Sim
No. 1 1:36 L. Westwood | E. Els | T. Woods
No. 10 1:36 V. Singh | D. Johnson | D. Love III
No. 1 1:47 B. Crane | P. Hanson | J. Kelly
No. 10 1:47 R. Ishikawa | R. McIlroy | T. Watson
No. 1 1:58 M. Kaymer | S. O'Hair | C. Schwartzel
No. 10 1:58 K. Perry | M. Jimenez | F. Funk
No. 1 2:09 H. Slocum | O. Wilson | J. Senden
No. 10 2:09 R. Fisher | B. Snedeker | L. Oosthuizen
No. 1 2:20 M. Gronberg | A. Yano | H. Frazar
No. 10 2:20 D. Summerhays | A-S. Langley | M. Richardson
No. 1 2:31 J. Preeo | A-K. Phelan | M. Silvers
No. 10 2:31 E. Compton | A-R. Henley | J. Allred
No. 1 2:42 K. Kim | A-B. Blakeman | B. Peffley
No. 10 2:42 E. Justesen | J. Smith | A-H. Swafford

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He's here and in a good mood!

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broncofan2438
06-15-2010, 02:26 PM
I hope Tiger chokes hard

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 02:27 PM
I hope Tiger chokes hard

Because he cheated on his wife?

orangenblue2
06-15-2010, 02:31 PM
Lefty...all the way.

Dukes
06-15-2010, 02:37 PM
I'm getting tired of seeing Pebble Beach

baja
06-15-2010, 02:55 PM
The weather can be sucky in June on the Monterey Peninsular.

bronco militia
06-15-2010, 03:00 PM
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baja
06-15-2010, 03:02 PM
Lol lol

rbackfactory80
06-15-2010, 03:24 PM
Westwood Els Woods, love that pairing.

azbroncfan
06-15-2010, 03:30 PM
My guess is a couple no namers make a run at the victory. I'd like Phil to win but he hasn't played windy courses real well due to his high ball flight. He has done well in the early tournament here but I think the weather isn't as windy that time of year in Monterey.

The Joker
06-15-2010, 03:34 PM
Would love Mickelson to win and break his US Open duck.

He and Westwood are the form players in the field, also expecting to see Furyk and Els in the mix. Not decided on my bets quite yet, gonna drop some money on it tomorrow when I get time to survey the odds a bit better.

God knows what Tiger will do, my instinct says he'll stay in the picture. He's just too good a scrambler not to.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 03:53 PM
Westwood Els Woods, love that pairing.

P. Mickelson | P. Harrington | Y. Yang is tasty too!

bombquixote
06-15-2010, 10:20 PM
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That was some funny **** right there.

Dagmar
06-15-2010, 10:24 PM
I would like to think the epic OP would have been given some love. I mean, COME ON!!

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broncogary
06-16-2010, 06:25 AM
Anthony Kim is out with thumb surgery and the US Open is THE OPEN.

rbackfactory80
06-16-2010, 07:22 AM
I pick Heath Slocum he knows how to hit greens and fairways.

The Joker
06-16-2010, 07:28 AM
You can get odds of 10/1 on Tiger on some sites, wonder when the last time was you could get those odds.

Gonna put some win bets on Phil (8/1), Tiger (10/1), Furyk (25/1) and Els (33/1).

Each way picks McDowell (80/1) and Duval (250/1)

Dedhed
06-16-2010, 07:47 AM
the US Open is THE OPEN.

No it isn't.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 08:42 AM
Anthony Kim is out with thumb surgery and the US Open is THE OPEN.

Only the most closed minded of people claim the US Open is the superior "Open".

google the "US Open history" and the 1st hit is for tennis.

google the "Open history" and the British Open golf tournament is the 1st hit.


The 1st Open was played in 1860 (in my home town), 35 years before the US Open.

broncogary let's not make this thread this eh?

broncogary
06-16-2010, 09:04 AM
Only the most closed minded of people claim the US Open is the superior "Open".

google the "US Open history" and the 1st hit is for tennis.

google the "Open history" and the British Open golf tournament is the 1st hit.


The 1st Open was played in 1860 (in my home town), 35 years before the US Open.

broncogary let's not make this thread this eh?

Arnold Palmer saved the British Open from obscurity. Hey, I like the British Open, it's just not the number one championship in my mind.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 09:09 AM
Arnold Palmer saved the British Open from obscurity. Hey, I like the British Open, it's just not the number one championship in my mind.

Nor mine, there are 4 majors held, 3 in the US, the Masters is the best, the the Open, then the US Open, the the USPGA.


Expert picks from PGAtour.com

1. Casey Black : PHIL MICKELSON.He's fallen short in the U.S. Open several times, but this is the year he wins it all. The 2010 Masters champ -- and three-time AT&T Pebble Beach winner -- would take over the top spot in the world rankings with a victory in his home state.

2. Helen Ross: LEE WESTWOOD. It didn't take Sunday's playoff victory to get my attention. Westwood has finished second or third in the last three majors -- and he tied for fourth at THE PLAYERS Championship last month. He's nothing if not overdue.
If Ross had the top pick ... Mickelson

3. Brian Wacker: TIGER WOODS. At some point, Tiger is going to start playing like Tiger and I'm not going to pass up the opportunity that this week is the week he does. He loves Pebble Beach and it suits his game. If he plays smartly and keeps the ball in the fairway, he wins.
If Wacker had the top pick ... Woods

4. Lauren Deason: JIM FURYK. Furyk won the U.S. Open in 2003 and has finished as runner-up in two of the past four years. The two-time winner in 2010 has also missed just one cut in 14 starts at the AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am.
If Deason had the top pick ... Mickelson

5. John Swantek : LUKE DONALD. Missed his last 3 U.S. Open cuts, but all on monster courses that were just too long for him. The 7,000-yard Pebble Beach, where he owns a strong record, suits his game perfectly. Best on TOUR in scrambling and sand save percentage.
If Swantek had the top pick ... Mickelson

6. Anne Szeker : BEN CRANE. One win, four top 10s. Tied for 12th is his worst finish in last four starts. Eleventh in driving accuracy, 9th in putting, 6th in scoring, 12th in scrambling. Crane is peaking just in time to rock Pebble Beach.
If Szeker had the top pick ... Mickelson

7. Mike McAllister: ERNIE ELS. Els has two U.S. Open wins but hasn't finished inside the top 10 since 2004. I'm not entirely sure what to expect this week, but he's probably the safest pick at this point.
If McAllister had the top pick ... Furyk

8. Ryan Smithson : STEVE STRICKER. I don't care. Tom Kite didn't play great when he won at Pebble in 1992. All it takes is good concentration and a hell of a putting stroke. Don't tell me this guy can't win a major, even with a bum shoulder.
If Smithson had the top pick ... Mickelson

azbroncfan
06-16-2010, 09:12 AM
Nor mine, there are 4 majors held, 3 in the US, the Masters is the best, the the Open, then the US Open, the the USPGA.


Expert picks from PGAtour.com

Not in the player's mind. If you ask them most of them say the US open is the greatest tournament. Just watch the golf channel's live from the open that is going on right now and you will here that over and over in the interviews.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 09:39 AM
Not in the player's mind. If you ask them most of them say the US open is the greatest tournament. Just watch the golf channel's live from the open that is going on right now and you will here that over and over in the interviews.

I don't want to argue about this for pages, so my last comment is I love 3 of the 4 majors with the only one that is kinda crap is the USPGA.

Can't wait for this tournament. I love PB.

edit *Pebble beach not a certain forummer's nemesis*

The Joker
06-16-2010, 09:44 AM
The players change their mind on what the best major is depending on what time of the year it is.

By the time the British Open comes around, you know they'll be saying the same sort of ****.

Order of preference for me is

Masters
US Open
British Open
USPGA

Which is funnily enough the order they're played in. Ha!

That said, if someone says "The Open" my first thought is always the British Open rather than the US.

Who cares though, really?

broncogary
06-16-2010, 09:49 AM
I don't want to argue about this for pages, so my last comment is I love 3 of the 4 majors with the only one that is kinda crap is the USPGA.

Can't wait for this tournament. I love PB.

edit *Pebble beach not a certain forummer's nemesis*

Hey, who's arguing? You can have your own opinion. Every thread that your in doesn't have to be an argument. I happen to think your a very entertaining guy. And I think most people here like you, too. :wave:

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 09:56 AM
Hey, who's arguing? You can have your own opinion. Every thread that your in doesn't have to be an argument. I happen to think your a very entertaining guy. And I think most people here like you, too. :wave:

:sunshine:

and you are right, I think I need to be able to distinguish between a discussion and an argument!

I cannot believe you can get Tiger at 10/1 on some sites. He is going to win another major you know!

Harrington is a good shout, he loves the wind (he mentioned it this morning in an interview too).

azbroncfan
06-16-2010, 10:01 AM
I don't want to argue about this for pages, so my last comment is I love 3 of the 4 majors with the only one that is kinda crap is the USPGA.

Can't wait for this tournament. I love PB.

edit *Pebble beach not a certain forummer's nemesis*

Yeah it's all an opinion but you did say the US open wasn't a better tournament that the Brittish Open and there are a lot of golfers that would disagree. It's all down to your opinion. A lot has to do whether your american or foriegn I would bet too.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 10:04 AM
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Dagmar
06-16-2010, 10:09 AM
Yeah it's all an opinion but you did say the US open wasn't a better tournament that the Brittish Open and there are a lot of golfers that would disagree. It's all down to your opinion. A lot has to do whether your american or foriegn I would bet too.

I've always found that too, Europeans say British Open, Americans say US Open.

Lots of British folk concede the Masters as the greatest major, but believe the Open to be 2nd. It's not important, we can all agree the poorest is the USPGA!

Dedhed
06-16-2010, 12:36 PM
Not in the player's mind. If you ask them most of them say the US open is the greatest tournament.

No they don't.

Dedhed
06-16-2010, 12:40 PM
Calling the US Open "The Open" is like calling the Taj Mahal in New Jersey "The Taj Mahal."

And just because you're American and you think it's better, doesn't make it an actuality.

ColoradoBuff
06-16-2010, 02:25 PM
The players change their mind on what the best major is depending on what time of the year it is.

By the time the British Open comes around, you know they'll be saying the same sort of ****.

Order of preference for me is

Masters
US Open
British Open
USPGA

Which is funnily enough the order they're played in. Ha!

That said, if someone says "The Open" my first thought is always the British Open rather than the US.

Who cares though, really?


mine is US Open, Masters, British Open and PGA Championship

ColoradoBuff
06-16-2010, 02:26 PM
My top 3: Tiger, Phil and a sleeper in Ben Crane!

The Joker
06-16-2010, 03:07 PM
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azbroncfan
06-16-2010, 03:16 PM
Jim Furyk would be my pick with Tim Clark with an outside chance.

Dagmar
06-16-2010, 05:10 PM
40 today

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Dagmar
06-16-2010, 05:13 PM
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All-time major winners

18 Jack Nicklaus
14 Tiger Woods
11 Walter Hagen
9 Gary Player, Ben Hogan
8 Tom Watson
7 Arnold Palmer, Harry Vardon, Gene Sarazen, Sam Snead, Bobby Jones
6 Lee Trevino, Nick Faldo

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Dedhed
06-16-2010, 06:48 PM
The players change their mind on what the best major is depending on what time of the year it is.

By the time the British Open comes around, you know they'll be saying the same sort of ****.

Order of preference for me is

Masters
US Open
British Open
USPGA

Which is funnily enough the order they're played in. Ha!

That said, if someone says "The Open" my first thought is always the British Open rather than the US.

The players say every tournament they're at is "one of my favorite venues", "I've never seen this course in this kind of condition", "the people running this tournament are the best in the business", etc.

Ask tour players in December and the overriding consensus on best majors (the one they'd most like to win) would be
1-The Masters-Synonymous with the greats of the game. A green jacket assures golfing immortality.

2-The Open Championship-Golf is a game rich in History, and nowhere is there more history than at the Open, played, this year for example, where the game was creatd. The R&A is far superior to the USGA in terms of putting on a tournament, and creating a spectacle for the game of golf.

3-The US Open-Played on some of the countries great courses, and carries the prestige of being the championship of the United States. Lags behind both the Masters and The Open due the USGA's clumsy and brutally heavy handed application of their "protect par" philosophy where they turn some of the country's great courses into fun houses that should only be found at Disney's Magic mountain.

4-The PGA Championship-Clearly dead last among the majors.

ZONA
06-17-2010, 01:29 AM
They've added several new bunkers to the course. Should be fun to see how many of those snag some balls.


Meanwhile, I'll be playing a few rounds at Pebble myself this weekend. On CPG golf. My friend made the course and it's outstanding. Really fun.

If you guys love golf, I'm telling you that you will enjoy this game. It's got the best shot feel there is. It's hard to master at first but so is real golf. And we are currently making all the best courses. We already have Pebble Beach, Spyglass, Augusta Ntl, Coeur d'Alene, St. Andrews, Kingsbarns, Carnoustie, Hazeltine and more. We have in the works, TPC Sawgrass, TPC Cog Hill, Celtic Manor 2010 Course (where they will be playing the Rider Cup this year)and a dozen other great courses. I've played Tiger Woods Golf by EA and this game blows it away as far as shot feel and ball physics. Give it a try.

Custom Play Golf 2010

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The Joker
06-17-2010, 03:13 AM
Might give that a go later ZONA, thanks.

As for the PGA being the worst major, it's hard to argue. It just seems like a regular tour event in all honesty, there's nothing that sets it apart like with the Masters and Opens.

What I'd actually love to see them do is take the 4th major and make it an international event. Play it outside the US, move it around the world with a new course hosting it every year. So many great courses in the world, it'd really give it its own unique feel.

Garcia Bronco
06-17-2010, 06:35 AM
Westwood Els Woods, love that pairing.

Westwood has a chacne. the best chance of the europeans, IMO.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 06:45 AM
Westwood has been playing great stuff, I'm not sure Pebble is going to suit him too much though.

So much of this week will be about the short game, if Tiger or Phil play it smart off the tee they'll be hard to beat.

broncofan2438
06-17-2010, 09:18 AM
Because he cheated on his wife?

As a matter of fack, it is one reason. Tiger is garbage. He is a piece of ****. Shows what kind of man oyu are to defend him if that is what you are worried about, that he cheated on his wife.
His neck "issue" was complete bull****.
I have been to plenty of tournys and he could care less about little kids and people who follow him. **** Tiger

Dagmar
06-17-2010, 09:24 AM
As a matter of fack, it is one reason. Tiger is garbage. He is a piece of ****. Shows what kind of man oyu are to defend him if that is what you are worried about, that he cheated on his wife.
His neck "issue" was complete bull****.
I have been to plenty of tournys and he could care less about little kids and people who follow him. **** Tiger

LOL

Chill out dude.

Baba Booey
06-17-2010, 11:07 AM
Phil came out on fire, but has since cooled off a ton.

Dagmar
06-17-2010, 11:09 AM
Phil came out on fire, but has since cooled off a ton.

Paddy Harrington -1 after 3 :strong:

The Joker
06-17-2010, 11:12 AM
Phil came out on fire, but has since cooled off a ton.

Six pars in a row is hardly on fire!!

Just bogeyed the 16th and 17th though, +2 through eight holes.

Kjeldsen the early pace setter at -3, course looks to be playing really tough.

Baba Booey
06-17-2010, 11:13 AM
Six pars in a row is hardly on fire!!

Just bogeyed the 16th and 17th though, +2 through eight holes.

Kjeldsen the early pace setter at -3, course looks to be playing really tough.

"Solid" would have probably been a better choice, you're right.

The sea looks angry at Pebbly Beach today my friends.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 11:13 AM
Paddy Harrington -1 after 3 :strong:

Welcome to an hour ago. :thumbsup:

+2 as well now, playing with Phil.

Baba Booey
06-17-2010, 11:14 AM
Who's Tiger playing with?

The Joker
06-17-2010, 11:18 AM
Who's Tiger playing with?

Els and Westwood.

Marquee group.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 11:20 AM
Mickelson with a ridiculous attempt of a shot on 18.

260 yards from the green, tried to start it in the ocean and hook it between two trees.

Into the ocean it went.

He's ****ting the bed here to be honest.

azbroncfan
06-17-2010, 11:23 AM
Mickelson with a ridiculous attempt of a shot on 18.

260 yards from the green, tried to start it in the ocean and hook it between two trees.

Into the ocean it went.

He's ****ting the bed here to be honest.

He can make par or bogey still which won't kill him. I love when people jump to conclusions so quickly. Bogey's are ok at US open just don't make worse. He is starting to be a little impatient though.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 11:29 AM
He can make par or bogey still which won't kill him. I love when people jump to conclusions so quickly. Bogey's are ok at US open just don't make worse. He is starting to be a little impatient though.

What the upside to that shot though?

Into the wind, I don't think he can make the green. Just smack one down the fairway somewhere and take your chances with a longer 3rd shot.

Impatience and the US Open don't mix.

Hope he gets it together, needs to shoot par or better on the back 9 or he'll be facing an uphill battle.

Baba Booey
06-17-2010, 11:31 AM
Mickelson with a ridiculous attempt of a shot on 18.

260 yards from the green, tried to start it in the ocean and hook it between two trees.

Into the ocean it went.

He's ****ting the bed here to be honest.

Yeah that was ridiculous. Frustrated from those bogies, no doubt, and tried to force something.

azbroncfan
06-17-2010, 11:32 AM
What the upside to that shot though?

Into the wind, I don't think he can make the green. Just smack one down the fairway somewhere and take your chances with a longer 3rd shot.

Impatience and the US Open don't mix.

Hope he gets it together, needs to shoot par or better on the back 9 or he'll be facing an uphill battle.

Yes it was a stupid shot now but he was pressing for a birdie to attempt to kick off his easier nine coming up. It's Phil's style and always has been and he has won a lot and lost a lot from it. It was just like the shot that won him the masters this year out of the pine needles. Your right though he has to shoot par or better to keep him from needing a good to great round tomorrow. Anywhere from 5 over or better will keep you in a US open on day one.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 11:39 AM
Yes it was a stupid shot now but he was pressing for a birdie to attempt to kick off his easier nine coming up. It's Phil's style and always has been and he has won a lot and lost a lot from it. It was just like the shot that won him the masters this year out of the pine needles. Your right though he has to shoot par or better to keep him from needing a good to great round tomorrow. Anywhere from 5 over or better will keep you in a US open on day one.

I'm not sure it's overly similar.

He couldn't even reach the green from where he was. It was a hugely risky shot with very little reward. The one at the Masters he set himself up for an eagle putt, this one was only ever gonna set him up for a shorter 3rd approach shot. No real reward to it.

Just taken too much club off the 1st tee and overshot the fairway as well, looks to have no shot for his next. :(

The Joker
06-17-2010, 11:43 AM
Like the man in the orthopedic shoes, I stand corrected.

Good shot Phil, now make some damn birdies!!

azbroncfan
06-17-2010, 12:04 PM
I'm not sure it's overly similar.

He couldn't even reach the green from where he was. It was a hugely risky shot with very little reward. The one at the Masters he set himself up for an eagle putt, this one was only ever gonna set him up for a shorter 3rd approach shot. No real reward to it.

Just taken too much club off the 1st tee and overshot the fairway as well, looks to have no shot for his next. :(

Yeah the shot at the Masters had a lot more risk. If he puts it in the water he loses the lead on the back nine. It had more upside too. It's Phils style and leads to boom or bust. He was trying to get inside a 100 on 18 for a birdie chance where he probably makes birdie 8 out of 10 times. I am just surprised he didn't go left of the tree with a cut instead of starting it out over the ocean and try to hook it into a right to left wind which makes it even tougher. It's Phil though.

azbroncfan
06-17-2010, 12:13 PM
6. Ian Poulter - 3 events since the Masters, 2 missed cuts and a last. Not going to win at Pebble Beach this week.


Why don't you think Poulter can win? I would say the best argument would be he is european and that's why he couldn't win here but he has the game.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 12:18 PM
Poulter has gone off the boil a bit recently, but if he plays well he's got the game to win.

Brilliant on short putts, which is something you need in this competition.

Dagmar
06-17-2010, 12:25 PM
Why don't you think Poulter can win? I would say the best argument would be he is european and that's why he couldn't win here but he has the game.

Just really poor form. I think next year, 2011 he will become more dominant.

azbroncfan
06-17-2010, 12:33 PM
Phil is seriously leaking oil. He better get the ship righted and not shoot his way out in round 1.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 12:39 PM
Phil is seriously leaking oil. He better get the ship righted and not shoot his way out in round 1.

He hasn't been able to buy a putt.

Still, I really don't like his gameplan so far. The tee shot on the 4th was stupid, just put an iron out there and you can still birdie.

Another shot thrown away. :(

azbroncfan
06-17-2010, 12:46 PM
He hasn't been able to buy a putt.

. :(

Yep if he putted well he could have 4 birdies and be even par. In contrast YE Yang has played terrible and is getting it turned around and getting his stroke going to get back in the over 2 or better range.

The Joker
06-17-2010, 01:29 PM
Another awful putt by Mickelson, long way back from here I'm afraid. :(

Furyk having a solid round though, so not all is lost!

Rohirrim
06-17-2010, 02:48 PM
I'm picking Zack Johnson to win it.

ZONA
06-18-2010, 03:19 AM
It always seems that you can look at the top 20 players after round 1 at a major and half of them won't be there come Sunday. As long as Phil and Tiger are within 6 or 7 shots come Sunday, they will always have a chance. It's those guys who are seldom in the top 10 on Saturday that know how to handle the Sunday pressure. They always fold like a cheap chair, most of the time, there are those few occasions.

Garcia Bronco
06-18-2010, 04:09 AM
This is the US Open. They are trying to protect par. These are the hardest setups. I think plus 2 wins it and I think Tiger or Phil won't be anywhere near it.

The Joker
06-18-2010, 07:39 PM
You can get odds of 10/1 on Tiger on some sites, wonder when the last time was you could get those odds.

Gonna put some win bets on Phil (8/1), Tiger (10/1), Furyk (25/1) and Els (33/1).

Each way picks McDowell (80/1) and Duval (250/1)

:wiggle:

No doubt I'll end up with nothing though!

Masterful round from Phil today.

The Joker
06-18-2010, 07:45 PM
How about Y.E Yang.

+1 for the tournament through 27 holes, 4 shots off the lead and right in the thick of it to be the winner come Sunday.

49 shots to later, he finished his second round. +13 for nine holes.

ZONA
06-19-2010, 04:01 AM
Phil was on fire today. Shot a 66 I believe. Should have been a 65, one putt stopped inches from the hole. Only 2 strokes out of the lead.

And how crazy has #14 been. Several guys went from the left side catch area, up and over the green and all the way back down the fairway, and then back. Zach Johnson did it twice. I think he was 4 over par on that hole and missed the cut. He was under the cut before the hole and then over the cut afer it. He's hating #14 right now. LOL

Garcia Bronco
06-19-2010, 05:32 AM
Those greens are like wood floors. You have root for Phil. He came to win. Great second round.

Cito Pelon
06-19-2010, 09:09 AM
I would like to think the epic OP would have been given some love. I mean, COME ON!!

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p211/xleggomygreggox/gob3jy0hb.gif

It was put together well. Well done, Dag.

Cito Pelon
06-19-2010, 09:52 AM
Golf is almost unwatchable these days because of A) the slow play, and B) the constant yells "Get in the Hole!!!!!"

The player can be hitting a 3-wood from 240 yds, and some jackass is yelling at the top of his lungs "Get in the Hole!!!!" Where's Spider with the throat-punch when you need him?

The slow play is excruciating. For example, I'll see two guys in a threesome tee off, then the third guy gets in the tee box with his caddy to discuss strategy for a minute. WTF were they doing while the FIRST two guys teed off? Tee the ball up and hit the gotdang ball.

The amount of time these players take with putts is unbelievable. I constantly see them spend 3 minutes looking at a five-foot putt, and roll it five feet past the hole. WTF did they see the last 2 minutes and 30 seconds that they didn't see in the first 30 seconds? Obviously nothing, or they would have made the gotdang putt.

baja
06-19-2010, 10:38 AM
Golf is almost unwatchable these days because of A) the slow play, and B) the constant yells "Get in the Hole!!!!!"

The player can be hitting a 3-wood from 240 yds, and some jackass is yelling at the top of his lungs "Get in the Hole!!!!" Where's Spider with the throat-punch when you need him?

The slow play is excruciating. For example, I'll see two guys in a threesome tee off, then the third guy gets in the tee box with his caddy to discuss strategy for a minute. WTF were they doing while the FIRST two guys teed off? Tee the ball up and hit the gotdang ball.

The amount of time these players take with putts is unbelievable. I constantly see them spend 3 minutes looking at a five-foot putt, and roll it five feet past the hole. WTF did they see the last 2 minutes and 30 seconds that they didn't see in the first 30 seconds? Obviously nothing, or they would have made the gotdang putt.

LOl so true

I think it would be great if the soccer horns were blatting all through the four days of the Open. We'd see who had the best nerves. ;D

eddie mac
06-19-2010, 10:40 AM
The wife's cousin leading the US Open. Who'd have thought it. Keep yer nerve Graeme and bring er home son.

Dagmar
06-19-2010, 10:44 AM
The US Open has come at a rough time (pun lol) given we had game 7 on Thursday, plus a World Cup where something happened that actually interested the American public (found facebook friends who don't even like soccer with angry status updates!). Interest will spike on Sunday I think.

After Brazil vs the Ivory Coast of course :wiggle:

Dagmar
06-19-2010, 10:45 AM
The wife's cousin leading the US Open. Who'd have thought it. Keep yer nerve Graeme and bring er home son.

They close?

He's gonna be riiiiiiiiiiiiiich!

Cito Pelon
06-19-2010, 11:02 AM
LOl so true

I think it would be great if the soccer horns were blatting all through the four days of the Open. We'd see who had the best nerves. ;D

Yeah, it's all about nerves. Too many of these guys spend 3 minutes trying to settle their nerves down, and still blow the shot. The officials have to pull them aside and tell them, "Look, you're hacking, ok? So hack faster."

eddie mac
06-19-2010, 12:22 PM
They close?

He's gonna be riiiiiiiiiiiiiich!

Not really, Graeme spends most of his time in the US these days. I haven't spoke to him for a good while.

azbroncfan
06-20-2010, 02:15 PM
I think plus 2 wins it and I think Tiger or Phil won't be anywhere near it.

Seems to me like you always say that for the past few majors. It's Johnson's to lose and he plays this course well but if Tiger or Phil go low which they both are capable they have a shot. It's hard to think that Johnson cruises with no troubles so I expect him to win but not without excitment.

azbroncfan
06-20-2010, 03:56 PM
Johnson blew up after 3 holes. I thought he would be much tougher. Els and Phil looking pretty good and McDowell is quietly leading.

eddie mac
06-20-2010, 04:58 PM
Graeme about to have a 3 shot lead again. I hope he can keep this tight and hold on.

azbroncfan
06-20-2010, 05:00 PM
Graeme about to have a 3 shot lead again. I hope he can keep this tight and hold on.

As long as he can make the tough par putts he will be ok. To this point everyone is falling away from him he is the lead horse to catch for sure. The big easy got it going but is blowing a pressure plug right now and is about to flop over dead.

Update your boy Graeme is showing a little oil leakage. Now he needs to get it stopped before it gets too much steam. US open pressure is starting to make an appearence.

The Joker
06-20-2010, 05:30 PM
Graeme about to have a 3 shot lead again. I hope he can keep this tight and hold on.

Not as much as I do.

Tenner each way at 80/1 on the guy.

Absolutely ****ting myself here.

azbroncfan
06-20-2010, 06:15 PM
Not as much as I do.

Tenner each way at 80/1 on the guy.

Absolutely ****ting myself here.

Graeme is trying to give it away and no one is stepping up. Usually someone would of shot a good round to get close to the top but everyone is falling on their face.

The Joker
06-20-2010, 06:25 PM
Graeme is trying to give it away and no one is stepping up. Usually someone would of shot a good round to get close to the top but everyone is falling on their face.

I do wonder if the course is just playing really tough, some of the pin positions out there are vicious.

That said, nobody is playing great.

azbroncfan
06-20-2010, 06:27 PM
I do wonder if the course is just playing really tough, some of the pin positions out there are vicious.

That said, nobody is playing great.

Well 4 68's have been shot and the course is playing easier than yesterday so I would say US open pressure.

baja
06-20-2010, 06:51 PM
Phil Mickelson is playing left handed today, what a sportsmen.

azbroncfan
06-20-2010, 07:06 PM
Graeme about to have a 3 shot lead again. I hope he can keep this tight and hold on.

It's his now unless he pukes.

baja
06-20-2010, 07:10 PM
I want the Frenchman to win.

eddie mac
06-20-2010, 07:15 PM
I need new underwear. Thank god you held your nerve Graeme. 1st European winner since Tony Jacklin. Well done son.

oubronco
06-20-2010, 07:20 PM
well done indeed

eddie mac
06-20-2010, 07:22 PM
There'll be one hell of a party down in Portrush tomorrow.

ZONA
06-20-2010, 07:24 PM
I can't say how ugly it was to see that the top guys in golf (woods, Els, Mickelson) were nothing but choke city today. It was right there for the taking and none of them could do anything but fail shot after shot. Congrats tot he relatively unkown Euro guy but everybody wants to see the big namers take it. I did.

The Joker
06-20-2010, 07:25 PM
eddie mac, but Graeme whatever ****ing drink he wants from me next time you see him.

Absolutely buzzing here.

The Joker
06-20-2010, 07:27 PM
I can't say how ugly it was to see that the top guys in golf (woods, Els, Mickelson) were nothing but choke city today. It was right there for the taking and none of them could do anything but fail shot after shot. Congrats tot he relatively unkown Euro guy but everybody wants to see the big namers take it. I did.

Yeah, I'll be really devastated picking up my 1,020 tomorrow. :sunshine:

eddie mac
06-20-2010, 07:30 PM
eddie mac, but Graeme whatever ****ing drink he wants from me next time you see him.

Absolutely buzzing here.

Well done on your bet mate.

eddie mac
06-20-2010, 07:30 PM
I can't say how ugly it was to see that the top guys in golf (woods, Els, Mickelson) were nothing but choke city today. It was right there for the taking and none of them could do anything but fail shot after shot. Congrats tot he relatively unkown Euro guy but everybody wants to see the big namers take it. I did.

Toughest course in the world and it showed today. Graeme's long bunker shot on 17 won it for me. He dropped a shot but that was a tough one and could've been worse.

baja
06-20-2010, 07:38 PM
I loved the interview with McDowell. He is a breath of fresh air. Thinking back to Tigers interviews I realize what a self ingrossed person Woods is.

Great Job Graham Congrats and heres to many more for you.

Dutch
06-20-2010, 07:41 PM
I need new underwear. Thank god you held your nerve Graeme. 1st European winner since Tony Jacklin. Well done son.

Congrats Eddie Mac. I was pulling for him all afternoon. Got to love the talk between he and his caddie. The wife and I were cracking up in a good way. Down to earth typical Irishmen, fantastic. I poured the first Guinness when he finished 14. Had a beer a hole from there on out, and completely enjoyedthe rest of the round. Nice humble and personable interview afterwords with that little turd Costas. Also thought it was cool that his Dad was there for Father's day to share it with him. Pretty cool scene following the last shot there on the green. Besides, much as the French guy played a strong tourney. I didn't want a Frog winning our championship.

The Joker
06-20-2010, 07:42 PM
Aye, he played an absolute beauty of a bunker shot on the 12th as well, having dropped shots on 9 and 10 that par was massive.

There'll definitely be some sleepless nights for the likes of Woods, Mickelson and Els tonight though.

Good day to be Irish. :)

Dutch
06-20-2010, 07:43 PM
Toughest course in the world and it showed today. Graeme's long bunker shot on 17 won it for me. He dropped a shot but that was a tough one and could've been worse.

I was afraid we were headed for a playoff at that point. Graeme hit that shot out,then the Frog croaked with the putter and all was good.

The Joker
06-20-2010, 07:46 PM
Much as I was willing Havret to fail every time he addressed the ball, it was hard to hate him. Seemed a nice guy.

Dustin Johnson must be feeling awful though.

My brother backed him each way at the start of the week, needless to say he didn't enjoy the round. Even had he birdied the last it would have been a place and a tidy profit, but then he 3-putted.

Garcia Bronco
06-20-2010, 08:41 PM
Nobody beat Pebble. Great win for McDowell. I loved his Dad out there after he won it.

Dutch
06-20-2010, 08:43 PM
Much as I was willing Havret to fail every time he addressed the ball, it was hard to hate him. Seemed a nice guy.

Dustin Johnson must be feeling awful though.

My brother backed him each way at the start of the week, needless to say he didn't enjoy the round. Even had he birdied the last it would have been a place and a tidy profit, but then he 3-putted.

Yeah, Havret seemed like a good guy. There is your 10%er.:wiggle: Felt real bad for Dustin as well, wheels came off badly. Still really pleased for Graeme.

gyldenlove
06-20-2010, 08:47 PM
Yeah, Havret seemed like a good guy. There is your 10%er.:wiggle: Felt real bad for Dustin as well, wheels came off badly. Still really pleased for Graeme.

It wasn't quite a Van De Velde like meltdown for Johnson though.

azbroncfan
06-20-2010, 09:04 PM
This was a tournament that will be known for everyone playing crappy at the top of the leaderboard and no one wanting to take it. Good job on McDowell for fighting thru to the end and getting it done by playing not quite as bad as the other guys. It's really tough when a guy in your group like Johnson did was blowing up and leaking oil as bad as he did. Usually rubs off on the other guy in the group.

JJJ
06-21-2010, 12:23 AM
I called McDowell in these pages to win the Masters. Was off by one major. The guy has can handle pressure pretty well.

PaintballCLE
06-21-2010, 08:29 PM
It was fun to be there in person, but the thing that shocked me was pebble isnt a great "looking" course. Its got mystique and you can tell its hard, but it isn't a pretty course to look at.


I prefer sawgrass and many of the other more picturesque courses.

It was fun to be there though...........but way too many ****ing people.