Obama Backing Iran, Heading UN Investigation of Israel

[epicSocialism4tw]

"Reporting from Washington — The Obama administration, which labored for months to impose tough new United Nations sanctions against Iran, now is pushing in the opposite direction against Congress as it crafts U.S. sanctions that the White House fears may go too far.

'The administration doesn't carry out the laws that are on the books, and they want the new law to be as weak and loophole-ridden as possible,' said Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Sherman Oaks)"

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iran-sanctions-20100611,0,5936318.story


"THE WEEKLY STANDARD has learned that senior Obama administration officials have been telling foreign governments that the administration intends to support an effort next week at the United Nations to set up an independent commission, under UN auspices, to investigate Israel's behavior in the Gaza flotilla incident. The White House has apparently shrugged off concerns from elsewhere in the U.S. government that a) this is an extraordinary singling out of Israel, since all kinds of much worse incidents happen around the world without spurring UN investigations; b) that the investigation will be one-sided, focusing entirely on Israeli behavior and not on Turkey or on Hamas; and c) that this sets a terrible precedent for outside investigations of incidents involving U.S. troops or intelligence operatives as we conduct our own war on terror."

http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/sources-obama-administration-support-anti-israel-resolution-un-next-week

[TheElusiveKyleOrton]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=25

In case you were lost (and you clearly are).

[OABB]

How is organizing an independent investigation of Israel the backing of Iran?

[TailgateNut]

How is organizing an independent investigation of Israel the backing of Iran?

In DramaLlamas' world, it is!:spit:

[epicSocialism4tw]

How is organizing an independent investigation of Israel the backing of Iran?

There are two articles there about two different, but related subjects. You should read them.

[Pontius Pirate]

http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/barack_obama_conspiracy_photo.jpg

[Rigs11]

drama llama strikes again. Hilarious!

[Vegas_Bronco]

a) we feel the Chinese and Russian Heat
b) Obama Admin is worth a 4th rounder at best
c) Turkey is worth $5.00 more than Afganistan
d) The only American killed with dual citizenship in Turkey and USA was Obama's boyhood friend in Kenya
e) Israel is destined to piss everyone off eventually starting WWIII

...all of these can explain this line of action very well with minimal drama.

[Rohirrim]

Obama is giving our surplus nukes to Iran.

Nazis on velociraptors!!

[OABB]

Obama is the debil!

[Popcorn Sutton]

How is organizing an independent investigation of Israel the backing of Iran?


Don't bother.

[OABB]

Don't bother.

Sometimes I wish I didn't care as much as I do. I cant help it. Part of me thinks I can bridge the gap between disfunctional thinking and logical thinking for people. Since the days of pippa bacca and that douche kid skateboarder who talked back to that officer I have argued against screwed up biasis left and right.

I wish I didn't have my Jesus complex and could move on.

[Popcorn Sutton]

There are two articles there about two different, but related subjects. You should read them.

Which one shows Obama "backing" Iran?

You really are something.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Which one shows Obama "backing" Iran?

You really are something.

Um...lets see.

Obama wants to scale back sanctions on Iran, and is advocating to their benefit against the will of congress.

See? Its not that hard to read the article, understand it, and comment about it.

[Spider]

Don't bother.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[barryr]

Hear we go with more meaningless sanctions, (oh, God forbid they were tough)that some countries won't even abide to and will continue doing business with Iran anyway. How many times has this game been played in the past with other countries? Let's make some more tough speeches too. Incompetent boobs.

[Popcorn Sutton]

Um...lets see.

Obama wants to scale back sanctions on Iran, and is advocating to their benefit against the will of congress.

See? Its not that hard to read the article, understand it, and comment about it.

I usually don't go there but you really are a closed minded jerk.

But the administration fears that the legislation also could damage relations with Europe, Russia and China, all of whom cooperated with U.S. efforts on the U.N. sanctions.

To avoid that possibility, the administration wants authority to waive U.S. punishment against companies from countries that have cooperated on Iran.

Many lawmakers are wary. Some say the Obama administration, like its predecessors, has been lax in enforcing existing Iran sanctions out of concern for good relations with other world powers.

The pending legislation presents other difficulties for the administration. Since a petroleum cutoff would strike broadly at the Iranian population, such sanctions would be seen as undermining the Obama administration's argument that it supports only those sanctions that focus narrowly on the Iranian leadership, said Peter Crail of the Arms Control Assn., a Washington-based advocacy group.

The article states and I quoted, Obama and the administration is concerned that the legislation could damage relations with Europe, Russia and China. Nowhere does it say ANYTHING about Obama "backing" Iran.

Regardless of what you think Llama, the situation with Iran is a delicate one. But hey, it's not that hard to read the article, right smart ass?

[BroncsRule]

..that douche kid skateboarder who talked back to that officer..

I remember that video - the "officer" was definitely the douche, at least on that day.

[TonyR]

Really good recent post from Daniel Larison at The American Conservative perfectly outlining how out of touch people like Skillet are.

There is a casual, automatic anti-Europeanism in the U.S. that has mutated in the last decade into something truly rancid and destructive. It shouldn’t need to be said, but anti-Semitism in Europe has been removed to the margins of society and politics in pretty much every EU member state. There are some protest parties that traffic in this garbage, but they remain marginal because of it, and even some of the nationalist and anti-immigration parties in western Europe go out of their way to declare support for Israel because this aligns with their own opposition to Muslim immigration. Americans don’t have to like European views on Israel and Palestine, but we shouldn’t employ cheap, baseless smears of all Europeans as the “explanation” of why they take a different view...

...Even though there is no reason to believe any of this, they are content to agree that Obama is trying to be more left-wing on foreign policy than Europeans. They say this at the same time that Obama continues to push harder on Iran’s nuclear program and missile defense in Europe than most governments in Europe actually want, and they completely ignore that Obama has been dragging NATO allies to support the war in Afghanistan very much against the popular desires of most European nations. They talk about Obama “selling out Europe” as if this were an obvious reality, when it is an insane, ideological distortion of the last year and a half to say that the administration has been “selling out Europe.”

Selling out Europe to whom? To the Russians with whom Europeans have been steadily expanding their trade over the last decade? Most members of NATO never wanted the Czech/Polish missile defense installations, which is why they had to be negotiated through bilateral agreements. Most European governments did not want to try to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO (and Germany made sure that it didn’t happen two years ago). At most, Obama has moved the U.S. slightly in the direction of most of Europe with respect to continued NATO expansion, but officially Washington remains far more interested in expansion than the Europeans are. Very few European governments perceive Iran’s nuclear program to be the threat that Washington does. Obama is foolishly pushing for Iranian isolation at the same time that some European countries are increasing economic exchange with Iran, so how has he been trying to get to “the left” of Europe?...

... Each time there has been widespread international condemnation of Israel since Obama took office, and long before that, Obama has quite conventionally and predictably taken Israel’s side or at the very least said nothing. Totten will search in vain for administration condemnations of Operation Cast Lead, but he will find Obama specifically rejecting the Goldstone report. The administration had essentially nothing to say about the Dubai assassination, and obviously in the aftermath of the flotilla raid the U.S. has sided quite clearly with the Israeli government. Even in squabbles over settlement policy when Netanyahu deliberately and repeatedly ignored and publicly defied Washington, the administration relented quite quickly...

...it is unfortunately quite typical and representative of the quality of foreign policy analysis and discussion on the right these days: heavy on ludicrous assertions and extremely light on any supporting evidence...

http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2010/06/14/a-view-from-inside-the-cocoon/

[OABB]

I remember that video - the "officer" was definitely the douche, at least on that day.

don't bring that back, please? The stupidity of all the people in that thread still makes me sad. We live in a world where parents let their kids run everything. We are a nation of disrespectful spoiled brats. Watch that video again. The kid talked back and refused to sit down when the officer asked him to. If a cop tells my son to sit down, you better believe he would. And if he didn't he should be wrestled to the ground.

People acted like the cop punched him in that video, but he clearly wrestled him to the ground. Now we have a video of a cop punching a woman in the face and most people think it was justified, although most preferred that he wrestled her down or taser her or something.

I love how a cop pushing a kid to the ground got people more upset than a cop punching a woman in the face. People are afraid to control their kids because it's "mean."

The truth is, even if a cop is a dickhead, as a 14 year old you still dhow respect. You do not talk back or refuse to sit down. and if you do than you will get taken down. I still can't believe people defend that little ****bag.

[cutthemdown]

How is organizing an independent investigation of Israel the backing of Iran?

Hamas is closely allied with Iran right now. Seriously with all the killing in the world he is worried about an incident were a couple people got shot and thrown into the water?

Give me a break 100's are murdered everyday in Africa.

[cutthemdown]

Don't even get me started what the world allows to go on in Myanmar (burma). Those people are being butchered and oppressed but for some reason that country never matters.

[OABB]

Hamas is closely allied with Iran right now. Seriously with all the killing in the world he is worried about an incident were a couple people got shot and thrown into the water?

Give me a break 100's are murdered everyday in Africa.

Two words: "Independent Investigation" I agree with you, but Hamas and Israel and BUrma and Rambo all kill and murder. LAunching an investigation is not condoning or admonishing. It's just an investigation.

And the reason no one cares about Burma is because there is no real connection to Jesus, the Rapture or Money.

[cutthemdown]

I agree that an investigation not a trial, but what the UN investigates is an indicator of what the world see's as important or the current issues.

Maybe the oppressed of the world should just try and become Jews? Then we care?