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ZachKC
06-06-2010, 07:02 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/401566-2010-fifa-world-cup-comparing-the-32-countries-to-the-32-nfl-teams

With less than a week away, the FIFA World Cup is the planet's premiere sporting event, which garners attention on absolutely every last corner of the globe.

In the United States, fever for the World Cup is unwisely tempered, despite the growing amount of popularity for the sport within the country's borders. Perhaps the issue is a disconnect between the average American and the average European sports fan.

This article will pair every country playing in the World Cup with every team in one of America's most popular sports: football.

Group A



South Africa = Cleveland Browns

Home field is the Bafana Bafana's biggest card this summer at the World Cup. Like the Browns at the Dawg Pound, the South Africans will enjoy a unique advantage in that opponents will be treated to a loud, wild crowd when they step onto the pitch.

In the ways of overall talent? The Browns and the South Africans are near the bottom of the barrel in the power rankings.



Mexico = San Diego Chargers



Every four years, fans are made to think that Mexico are juggernauts who can take the World Cup as dark horses, pointing at the oodles of talent at every line. The Chargers have been sexy Super Bowl picks for the last half-decade or so.

Both have been constant disappointments in the post-season. Will 2010 be special for El Tri and the Bolts?



Uruguay = Chicago Bears

In the old days, Uruguay was the end all soccer power, winning the World Cup twice in its first four incarnations. Today, their reputation and name recognition with fans around the world is about all they enjoy.

Chicago is a storied franchise who dominated the early days of the NFL but have had little to crow about since the AFL-NFL merger. Despite this, they are a big name in the league and will continue to be even if they don't rack up more titles anytime soon.



France = New England Patriots

The wounded giant in this World Cup, France has racked up a couple of embarrassing results against Tunisia and China just days away from the start of the competition. Four years ago, they made the final and twelve years ago they were kissing the Cup at home. Now they're old and their mystique is being brought into question.

Sound familiar? The Patriots suddenly have a chip on their shoulder going into the 2010 season, people are calling Tom Brady soft and the Jets are overshadowing New England as the team to watch in the AFC East.



Group B



Argentina = Indianapolis Colts

Flashy, talented but ultimately flawed when it comes to putting all together, Argentina is always a threat to take the Cup. This time around, their big star Lionel Messi is leading the charge with a familiar gripe being aimed at him: the claim that he's not a big-time player who can "win it all" with his national team.

Peyton Manning had to sift through similar criticism before hoisting the Lombardi Trophy.



Nigeria = Cincinnati Bengals

Nigeria have been a tour de force in the age-limited categories of international football for the past two decades. However, the full national team struggles on the biggest stage.

Cincinnati have had a knack for drafting or reclaiming young, talented projects who as of yet cannot bulldoze their way deep into the playoffs.



Korea Republic = Carolina Panthers

A forgotten team from the Far East who put together one good run eight years ago on home soil, but have now drifted into mediocrity.

With Kerry Collins and then Jake Delhomme at the helm, the Panthers have treated fans to a couple of token successes. At the moment, they lounge in the dregs of the NFC.



Greece = Baltimore Ravens

The Greeks are quite simply a one-dimensional squad who rely on their tactical order and defensive wall to frustrate opponents. Despite their great defense, their lack of offense has kept them off the radar.

Until recently, the Ravens were a one-dimensional club, who like Greece's 2004 Euro Cup victory, had captured one major championship (Super Bowl XXXIV) on the strength of their defense.



Group C



England = New York Giants

The spotlight is brightly shone on the English every two years at the Euro Cup and the World Cup with a healthy amount of agitators proclaiming them eventual victors despite a potential lack of talent.

In the Big Apple, both local and national media usually anoint the Giants as a constant threat to win it all despite glaring holes that the rest of the nation might notice.



United States = Arizona Cardinals

The Americans shocked the world at last year's Confederations Cup by beating up on title contenders Spain and pushing eventual champions Brazil to the brink, going on an unlikely run that is equally unlikely to continue this summer at the World Cup.

Arizona smashed through the 2008 playoffs on their way to an unexpected berth to the Super Bowl. Last season, the Cards tried it again - but they snuck up on nobody and went home earlier.



Algeria = St. Louis Rams

Welcome to the World Cup, Algeria. Have a good time. Hope to see you sometime in the future, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Anybody expecting the Rams to play more than 16 games this season? Me neither.



Slovenia = Buffalo Bills

Slovenia might not make it to the next round of the World Cup, but they're no easy squad to beat, as teams will encounter beginning next week.

The Buffalo Bills have been constant underachievers for the better part of the decade, but they've made some big teams sweat it out from time to time.



Group D



Germany = Minnesota Vikings

The Germans are a well-oiled machine who play physical ball and usually rely on a wily veteran to put them through to where they need to go.

Last season, Minnesota relied on Brett Favre to get them closer to the Super Bowl than they've been in years, but just fell short. Expect for the same to happen to Germany without their captain Michael Ballack.



Australia = Miami Dolphins

No one really knows what they'll get from Australia. They're definitely under the radar, but they boast experience and overall solid play on every line, and could benefit from an uneven group to move on.

Miami surprised in 2008 after being utterly putrid just a season before. Then, injuries derailed them in 2009. A similar fate could befall Australia if Tim Cahill, Harry Kewell or Lucas Neill go down.



Serbia = San Francisco 49ers

The Serbs have an impressive collection of athletes who play in some of the world's best clubs such as Manchester United and Chelsea, but don't have a clear difference maker who can put them through.

The 49ers are a young, talented squad who have multiple questions at arguably the most important position: quarterback. Should both of these teams find a steady leader, the results could be grand.



Ghana = Washington Redskins

A lot of big names litter the Ghana roster but their play as a team has always been underwhelming.

Washington has thrown gobs of money around at the league's most prominent free agents since Dan Snyder bought the team, without any championships to show for it.



Group E



Netherlands = New York Jets

The Dutch are always so talented, so flashy and so entertaining but ultimately break their fans hearts by failing to win the whole enchilada.

The Jets were great last season and built a steady army of believers that grew exponentially throughout the post-season before bowing to Indianapolis. Is this the year both teams put it together?



Denmark = Tampa Bay Buccaneers

The Danes are a tough team who have too many holes in their lineup to make anyone worry about them. They will be a quick first-round exit.

Tampa Bay isn't going to wow anybody in 2010 as they are rebuilding for the future.



Japan = Seattle Seahawks

No one is going to mistake Japan as a threat to win the World Cup this summer, but they have some interesting pieces that will make them fun to watch.

With Pete Carroll at the helm, there will be more than a few eyes placed on the Seahawks going into this season.



Cameroon = Houston Texans

Cameroon's offense will be undoubtedly explosive with Pierre Webo and Inter Milan striker Samuel Eto'o hounding opposing penalty boxes, but questions start at the other end of the pitch for the Africans.

With Matt Schaub, Steve Slaton and Andre Johnson, is there any doubt that the Texans can put points on the board? If that defense comes together, the balance of power will be shifted in the league.



Group F



Italy = Pittsburgh Steelers

Most soccer fans don't enjoy watching Italy games, as they are painfully slow, unexciting for the sport and played to a metronome pace that could lull anyone to sleep. Despite this, Italy is great at what they do and their track record speaks for itself.

The Steelers are traditionally a run-first, grind it out team that keeps scores low and stifles even the most spectacular opponent, riding their strategy to multiple championships along their storied history.

Hey, it may not be pretty—but it works.



Paraguay = Philadelphia Eagles

Paraguay were trendy dark horses only a few months ago, but the tragic subtraction of star striker Salvador Cabañas now has observers wondering what the true reach of this team is going into South Africa.

Philly was a constant candidate behind star quarterback Donovan McNabb, but a trade sending him out of town makes people around the league question how good the Eagles can be in 2010.



New Zealand = Detroit Lions

The same thing can be heard by opponents of both teams when New Zealand and Detroit step out onto the field:

Who are these guys?



Slovakia = Kansas City Chiefs

No one expects much out of Slovakia, but the Eastern Europeans have a steady base of players plying their trade at the highest level who could very well sneak up on some bigger countries.

The Chiefs haven't had much luck out of the AFC West these past few seasons, but they've made it tough on their rivals, stealing games from Pittsburgh and Denver in 2009.



Group G



Brazil = Dallas Cowboys

Oh, the grandeur, the big names, the grainy film depicting a breadth of titles—you could be talking about either team in this situation.

Brazil is the end-all in the world of soccer, the gold standard to which every other country aspires. While Dallas has lost some of that luster in recent years, it's hard to argue with the mystique behind the team with the star on its helmet.



North Korea = Oakland Raiders

North Korea weren't expected to be good at this year's World Cup but they've evolved in a punchline in recent weeks, with a huge blunder in their roster listing a regular striker as a goalkeeper.

Oakland was once great, but they're not expected to be any time soon. As for the punchline? Well, you know the fans and the owner, right?



Ivory Coast = Atlanta Falcons

A flashy team with plenty of balance who despite this have not been able to transcend, the Ivory Coast will now have another hurdle to jump—their goalscorer Didier Drogba may be out for the Cup with an injury.

The Falcons' attack is prodigious and their defense is getting better, but they've yet to really contest the class of the NFC.



Portugal = Tennessee Titans

The Western Europeans boast arguably the world's most exciting player in Cristiano Ronaldo. The Real Madrid striker is reason enough to be glued to every single game that Portugal plays this summer.

Even if you don't like the Titans, you can watch Chris Johnson dash in and out of defenses all day, he is a bottle rocket who keeps every fan on the edge of his seat.



Group H



Spain = New Orleans Saints

Spain come into the World Cup having never won it, loaded to the brim with stars and a beautiful style of play that pleases even the most casual of observers. All eyes are on La Roja to see if they can finally get over the hump and win it all.

The situation mirrors New Orleans prior to the Super Bowl last season.

An immensely talented team with a great attitude and style going up and facing destiny. We know how the story panned out for the Saints... how about the Spanish?



Switzerland = Green Bay Packers

Not much to say about this one except the obvious parallels to milk and cheese between Wisconsin and the country identified with the Alps.

In terms of talent, the Packers shade the Swiss.



Chile = Denver Broncos

Chile are an interesting team with oodles of talent. They are led by a brash, cerebral manager (Marcelo Bielsa) who nonetheless owes much of his success to his past.

Sound familiar? Denver is led by Josh McDaniels, whose claim to fame is working under Bill Bellichick.

Honduras = Jacksonville Jaguars

Honduras is probably off most people's minds when asked to name the three qualifying teams from the North American region for this World Cup.

Jacksonville is always the team left off of the trivia answer to the question: What are all the names of the Florida-based NFL teams?

FADERPROOF
06-06-2010, 07:53 AM
Just fitting that Oakland gets compared to North Korea, haha!

loborugger
06-06-2010, 08:02 AM
:rofl:

This list was a dismal failure until Oakland got tied to North Korea.

DHallblows
06-06-2010, 10:41 AM
Cleverly done, I enjoyed it.

And I have Chile the #2 coming out of Group H anyway :)

epicSocialism4tw
06-06-2010, 12:11 PM
Its pretty funny that the worm has turned.

ESPN's soccer contract has given the sport loads of visibility and attention here in the States, and even haters like Jim Rome are kissing soccer butt now.

Soccer is now a major sport in America. It has several cable channels devoted entirely to it, and major games are shown on major networks. Its only a matter of time before all the "soccer iz dum" morons fade into oblivion.

We told you so.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 02:11 PM
I couldn't be any less excited about the World Cup. Such a crappy tournament. (you can win 5 games and be the world champion??? pleeease!!) And soccer still pales in comparison to other sports IMO.

And I hate Maradona, so yeah... it will pretty much blow for me.

ZachKC
06-06-2010, 02:47 PM
I couldn't be any less excited about the World Cup. Such a crappy tournament. (you can win 5 games and be the world champion??? pleeease!!) And soccer still pales in comparison to other sports IMO.

And I hate Maradona, so yeah... it will pretty much blow for me.

You don't have to like soccer but...

Saying you can only win 5 games and be the world champion is pretty disingenuous.

DBruleU
06-06-2010, 02:54 PM
I couldn't be any less excited about the World Cup. Such a crappy tournament. (you can win 5 games and be the world champion??? pleeease!!) And soccer still pales in comparison to other sports IMO.

And I hate Maradona, so yeah... it will pretty much blow for me.

Crappy tournament? Really? It's probably one of the hardest to win in the world. It spans over years of earning the right to take part in, and has some of the greatest athletes in the world.

I doubt the entire world tunes in to watch a "crappy tournament."

ZachKC
06-06-2010, 02:59 PM
Crappy tournament? Really? It's probably one of the hardest to win in the world. It spans over years of earning the right to take part in, and has some of the greatest athletes in the world.

I doubt the entire world tunes in to watch a "crappy tournament."

I don't really care if people like soccer or not. I can understand people not connecting with it. I don't understand why people have to go so far out of their way to trash it though...it is hilarious. Scouring the internet for stupid pictures or in this case just making **** up.

Kid A
06-06-2010, 03:02 PM
Crappy tournament? Really? It's probably one of the hardest to win in the world. It spans over years of earning the right to take part in, and has some of the greatest athletes in the world.

I doubt the entire world tunes in to watch a "crappy tournament."

Yep. Probably the best set up they can have for it considering. Maybe if they did the elimination rounds like the Champions League (two game series with aggregate goals deciding) it would avoid more fluke upsets, but that would stretch the Cup way too long for an event that requires teams and fans to travel to a remote part of the world.

brncs_fan
06-06-2010, 03:08 PM
Looking forward to getting this thing started already!

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:11 PM
I don't really care if people like soccer or not. I can understand people not connecting with it. I don't understand why people have to go so far out of their way to trash it though...it is hilarious. Scouring the internet for stupid pictures or in this case just making **** up.

What?? I'm not making stuff up.

You can get out of the group by winning one, losing one, and tying one. Right? That's one win.

One more win and you advance to the quarter finals...

One more and you're in the semis...

One more and you're in the final... one more and that's it!!! You're the champs.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:13 PM
I don't care if it is the "best" way to set it up considering all things... it's crap. Even some of the most rabid soccer fans agree with me. Hell Argentina could be the champion of this tournament only because of the way it is set up. Make them win 10 games and there's no way in hell thay make it.

KCStud
06-06-2010, 03:20 PM
What?? I'm not making stuff up.

You can get out of the group by winning one, losing one, and tying one. Right? That's one win.

One more win and you advance to the quarter finals...

One more and you're in the semis...

One more and you're in the final... one more and that's it!!! You're the champs.

Well in the NFL postseason (tournament if you will) a team with a bye week can win only 3 games to become the champs. What does that say?

I love how teams get matched up randomly in the groups. The group of death is going to be fun this time.
It's exciting because of not only the game, but the fans. Say what you want, but fans that attend the world cup are the best fans in the world. Multiple songs for their team and always standing and yelling. They are true fans. You'll see these guys doing this in 100+ degree weather too.

Note: These are not the fans that kill eachother like other parts of the world so please don't compare them.

Kid A
06-06-2010, 03:27 PM
I don't care if it is the "best" way to set it up considering all things... it's crap. Even some of the most rabid soccer fans agree with me. Hell Argentina could be the champion of this tournament only because of the way it is set up. Make them win 10 games and there's no way in hell thay make it.

You're still ignoring the fact that they had a year of qualifying games from their region. The world cup is like a postseason tournament. Except, as KC pointed out, it's quite tougher to get through than the NFL.

Not sure why you're so down on Argentina either. They are a top 5 team. They'd have as good a shot as anyone no matter the tourney length.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:28 PM
Well in the NFL postseason (tournament if you will) a team with a bye week can win only 3 games to become the champs. What does that say?

I love how teams get matched up randomly in the groups. The group of death is going to be fun this time.
It's exciting because of not only the game, but the fans. Say what you want, but fans that attend the world cup are the best fans in the world. Multiple songs for their team and always standing and yelling. They are true fans. You'll see these guys doing this in 100+ degree weather too.

Note: These are not the fans that kill eachother like other parts of the world so please don't compare them.

You can even be the world champion by scoring one goal in the whole tournament. Tie and win by penalty shots (stupid) and you can do it. Not that it's likely but possible.

Look, it's MY opinion. I live in a country where soccer is everything. I've been around it all my life. After looking into other sports... I'll never understand why it is so popular.

The premise of the World Cup... the event itself is super cool. The tournament? Not so much.

ZachKC
06-06-2010, 03:29 PM
What?? I'm not making stuff up.

You can get out of the group by winning one, losing one, and tying one. Right? That's one win.

One more win and you advance to the quarter finals...

One more and you're in the semis...

One more and you're in the final... one more and that's it!!! You're the champs.

You are not giving any credit to the qualification process. And all the games that go into it.

You characterization that some national team can wake up one month and just fall into being World Champions for ****s and giggles is ludicrous.

It is like calling the NFL Championship stupid because a team can win it in 3 games.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:30 PM
You're still ignoring the fact that they had a year of qualifying games from their region. The world cup is like a postseason tournament. Except, as KC pointed out, it's quite tougher to get through than the NFL.

Not sure why you're so down on Argentina either. They are a top 5 team. They'd have as good a shot as anyone no matter the tourney length.

I can't remember how many games Argentina won to get in... couldn't be more than 4 though I'd have to look it up. Not in any way tougher than getting to the post season in the NFL.

I'm down on Argentina because Maradona can't coach for crap and these guys don't know how to play together, period!

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:32 PM
You are not giving any credit to the qualification process. And all the games that go into it.

You characterization that some national team can wake up one month and just fall into being World Champions for ****s and giggles is ludicrous.

It could happen to Argentina this month and it would fit my argument. They played like **** on almost every qualifying game and they can be world champions by like I said, winning 5 games.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:33 PM
You are not giving any credit to the qualification process. And all the games that go into it.

You characterization that some national team can wake up one month and just fall into being World Champions for ****s and giggles is ludicrous.

It is like calling the NFL Championship stupid because a team can win it in 3 games.

How many games to qualify to the World Cup? I really don't know but I'm pretty sure Argentina only won a handful.

ZachKC
06-06-2010, 03:36 PM
how many games to qualify to the world cup? I really don't know but i'm pretty sure argentina only won a handful.

18.

Kid A
06-06-2010, 03:38 PM
I can't remember how many games Argentina won to get in... couldn't be more than 4 though I'd have to look it up. Not in any way tougher than getting to the post season in the NFL.

I'm down on Argentina because Maradona can't coach for crap and these guys don't know how to play together, period!

They won 8, tied 4, lost 6. 18 games. That's a quite a few.

Now given the level of talent in Argentina compared to some other competitors it might be "easier" for a large soccer nation to qualify (though Argentina was only 4 points clear of the qualifying line). But that indicates a talent imbalance (more like we see in MLB) as opposed to an easy qualifying system.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:40 PM
18.

So how many WINS to get in? I have a problem with the stupid "points" system. You get a point for... not losing? In ties. Sweet I guess!

Anyway... moving on, I could care less about soccer and I watch the world cup because there are a couple of interesting teams but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it and I still don't like how it is set up. My opinion.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:41 PM
They won 8, tied 4, lost 6. 18 games. That's a quite a few.

Now given the level of talent in Argentina compared to some other competitors it might be "easier" for a large soccer nation to qualify (though Argentina was only 4 points clear of the qualifying line). But that indicates a talent imbalance (more like we see in MLB) as opposed to an easy qualifying system.

Thanks, I thought it was far less. My bad.

DHallblows
06-06-2010, 03:45 PM
BlaK, you're killing my entire stereotype of Argentinians.

Next thing I know you're gonna tell me you don't have long, greasy, black hair and 6-pack abs

Kid A
06-06-2010, 03:47 PM
So how many WINS to get in? I have a problem with the stupid "points" system. You get a point for... not losing? In ties. Sweet I guess!

Anyway... moving on, I could care less about soccer and I watch the world cup because there are a couple of interesting teams but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it and I still don't like how it is set up. My opinion.

Well, that's the nature of a low scoring sport - getting a draw isn't a bad thing. But, as you indicated, it really just comes down to you not enjoying soccer. People who like the sport are more likely to accept that aspect of the sport.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 03:51 PM
BlaK, you're killing my entire stereotype of Argentinians.

Next thing I know you're gonna tell me you don't have greasy, black hair and 6-pack abs

ROFL! No, I'm actually blonde, hate greasy hair and I don't have 6 pack abs, though I am a bit on the skinny side.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs173.snc3/20075_308542107044_560922044_3996892_5864399_n.jpg

Maybe my friend there on the right fits your description better. :rofl:

ZachKC
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
So how many WINS to get in? I have a problem with the stupid "points" system. You get a point for... not losing? In ties. Sweet I guess!

Anyway... moving on, I could care less about soccer and I watch the world cup because there are a couple of interesting teams but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it and I still don't like how it is set up. My opinion.

Hey man, you not knowing what you are talking about is no reason for you to take your ball and go home.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Hey man, you not knowing what you are talking about is no reason for you to take your ball and go home.

I said you can win the tournament with 5 wins. Is that true or not? Qualifying or not... that's the way the TOURNAMENT is.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 04:11 PM
Besides, I'm taking the ball and going home because soccer bores the hell out of me and discussing it... even more.

Chris
06-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Soccer (footie) is the world's game. Poor kids in Ghana have no chance of playing american football.

chadta
06-06-2010, 07:14 PM
is it over yet ?

this has been the trifecta for ****ty sports on tv

first ya got the olympics, i mean besides hockey who the hell cares, then ya got the masters, which was on every friggin channel cuz tigers comeing back, then the world cup , i mean really its soccer.

i watched 3 minutes of soccer back when you guys hosted the world cup, i think it was a usa mexico game, at half time big surprise it was 0-0 but the shots on net were 1-0 at the half, what the hell is that, you watch 45 minutes of people running up an down the feild but nobody ever actually trys to score ?

i may have to take up baseball again just to avoid it

Soccer (footie) is the world's game. Poor kids in Ghana have no chance of playing american football.


they showed on tv the other day how they make balls out of old plastic bags, they get an A for creativity.

Taco John
06-06-2010, 07:42 PM
Its pretty funny that the worm has turned.

ESPN's soccer contract has given the sport loads of visibility and attention here in the States, and even haters like Jim Rome are kissing soccer butt now.

Soccer is now a major sport in America. It has several cable channels devoted entirely to it, and major games are shown on major networks. Its only a matter of time before all the "soccer iz dum" morons fade into oblivion.

We told you so.



Hilarious!

Come on. Soccer is gaining prominence, sure. But it can hardly be considered a major sport in America.

Jens1893
06-06-2010, 08:46 PM
You don't have to like soccer but...

Saying you can only win 5 games and be the world champion is pretty disingenuous.

I´d actually say that´s pretty much correct and even go a step further and say that 2-3 good games at the right time can be enough. If you have enough quality in your squad, and you obviously need that, and a somewhat decent draw you can basically sleep walk your way thru the qualifying stages and even at the final tournament you don´t need to wake up until the quarter finals or semi finals.

The level of competition is really watered down with 32 teams at the final tournament. Sixteen teams at the final tournament would be just about right IMO. With 16 teams you´d consistently see games played at an extremely high level and not the watered down pish you have right now where the top teams are, by far and large, kept apart until the QFs.

Steve Sewell
06-06-2010, 08:48 PM
Its pretty funny that the worm has turned.

ESPN's soccer contract has given the sport loads of visibility and attention here in the States, and even haters like Jim Rome are kissing soccer butt now.

Soccer is now a major sport in America. It has several cable channels devoted entirely to it, and major games are shown on major networks. Its only a matter of time before all the "soccer iz dum" morons fade into oblivion.

We told you so.

Soccer is fun to watch every 4 years or so, and I get into it. What always seems to spoil it for me is watching some power Euro or South American (i.e. Italy and Argentina) team take lame/ridiculous dives and get away with it.

I'm not a "soccer iz dum" guy, but the ONLY reason my interest is piqued is due to the World Cup, and that is it. It's kind of like swimming in the Olympics, if anything.

epicSocialism4tw
06-06-2010, 09:43 PM
Come on. Soccer is gaining prominence, sure. But it can hardly be considered a major sport in America.

Last season, the first-year Seattle Sounders averaged 31,000 fans per home game.

This season, Seattle is averaging 36,000.

In comparison, the Mariners average 25,000 per game. The Supersonics averaged 22,000 in their best year (1979), and 13,000 in their last year in Seattle.

The Sounders' average attendance is better than every single NBA franchise last year.

Other high attendance MLS teams:

Philadelphia: 30,000
Toronto: 20,000
LA Galaxy: 20,000
Houston: 17,000
NY (old stadium): 16,000

League-wide, attendance is up over 9% from last season.

I havent mentioned the big TV deals that the European leagues have earned with major US distributors to broadcast in the states over the next few years.

MLS is not the big dog league, but the big dog clubs sell out football stadiums in America.

Soccer is here now.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 09:57 PM
Soccer is fun to watch every 4 years or so, and I get into it. What always seems to spoil it for me is watching some power Euro or South American (i.e. Italy and Argentina) team take lame/ridiculous dives and get away with it.

I'm not a "soccer iz dum" guy, but the ONLY reason my interest is piqued is due to the World Cup, and that is it. It's kind of like swimming in the Olympics, if anything.

Me too. I watch the Euro and the World Cup and that's it. I can't take anymore than that.

And yeah, flopping is unbelievably gay.

BlaK-Argentina
06-06-2010, 09:58 PM
I´d actually say that´s pretty much correct and even go a step further and say that 2-3 good games at the right time can be enough. If you have enough quality in your squad, and you obviously need that, and a somewhat decent draw you can basically sleep walk your way thru the qualifying stages and even at the final tournament you don´t need to wake up until the quarter finals or semi finals.

The level of competition is really watered down with 32 teams at the final tournament. Sixteen teams at the final tournament would be just about right IMO. With 16 teams you´d consistently see games played at an extremely high level and not the watered down pish you have right now where the top teams are, by far and large, kept apart until the QFs.

Thanks my man! Ha!

Dagmar
06-06-2010, 10:01 PM
How many games to qualify to the World Cup? I really don't know but I'm pretty sure Argentina only won a handful.

Your posts are usually awesome but dude your take on "soccer" is flawed due to lack of knowledge.

10 years ago when I lived in Scotland I ragged on the NFL as "gay rugby". About 2 years ago I called baseball the most boring sport in the world exc ept for cricket. I don't know what an "RBI" is. Railing on a sport is dumb.

My point is, the World cup isn't 5 games. It's a 2 year process to qualify, then the tournament itself. It's the biggest sporting event on the planet, whether you like it or not.

I replied to a post on page one, I had no idea how handsome you are, sorry... :kiss:

Dagmar
06-06-2010, 10:05 PM
I´d actually say that´s pretty much correct and even go a step further and say that 2-3 good games at the right time can be enough. If you have enough quality in your squad, and you obviously need that, and a somewhat decent draw you can basically sleep walk your way thru the qualifying stages and even at the final tournament you don´t need to wake up until the quarter finals or semi finals.

The level of competition is really watered down with 32 teams at the final tournament. Sixteen teams at the final tournament would be just about right IMO. With 16 teams you´d consistently see games played at an extremely high level and not the watered down pish you have right now where the top teams are, by far and large, kept apart until the QFs.

Since my 1st tournament of Italia '90 it's always exciting to see that minnow get on a hot streak. It's like the Jets this season. Cameroon in 90, South Korea in 02, that stuff is awesome. Like the Jets were crappy all year but got hot at the right time.

Dagmar
06-06-2010, 10:24 PM
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RonDaChamp24
06-06-2010, 11:19 PM
Love me some soccer. Forza Italia!!!

Jerry Curl
06-07-2010, 03:48 AM
Cannot wait for this to start, I'll be out early for the games. Saturdays big game is gonna own, an upset would be nuts! Really have gotten into soccer in the past two years are so. I picked Portugal to win it on espn but there's about 6-8 teams that have a good shot imo.

TheReverend
06-07-2010, 05:42 AM
Its pretty funny that the worm has turned.

ESPN's soccer contract has given the sport loads of visibility and attention here in the States, and even haters like Jim Rome are kissing soccer butt now.

Soccer is now a major sport in America. It has several cable channels devoted entirely to it, and major games are shown on major networks. Its only a matter of time before all the "soccer iz dum" morons fade into oblivion.

We told you so.

:rofl:

Kid A
06-07-2010, 09:05 AM
Impossible to watch this video and not get somewhat psyched for next weekend:

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Beantown Bronco
06-07-2010, 10:27 AM
Last season, the first-year Seattle Sounders averaged 31,000 fans per home game.

This season, Seattle is averaging 36,000.

In comparison, the Mariners average 25,000 per game. The Supersonics averaged 22,000 in their best year (1979), and 13,000 in their last year in Seattle.

The Sounders' average attendance is better than every single NBA franchise last year.

Other high attendance MLS teams:

Philadelphia: 30,000
Toronto: 20,000
LA Galaxy: 20,000
Houston: 17,000
NY (old stadium): 16,000

League-wide, attendance is up over 9% from last season.

I havent mentioned the big TV deals that the European leagues have earned with major US distributors to broadcast in the states over the next few years.

MLS is not the big dog league, but the big dog clubs sell out football stadiums in America.

Soccer is here now.

Convenient that you picked Seattle. They double the average attendance of the rest of the league. It is big, there, for sure. The other cities? Not so much.

And the only reason they beat NBA attendance is because NBA arenas cannot hold that many people. We've been over this many times.

BlaK-Argentina
06-07-2010, 11:42 AM
Your posts are usually awesome but dude your take on "soccer" is flawed due to lack of knowledge.

10 years ago when I lived in Scotland I ragged on the NFL as "gay rugby". About 2 years ago I called baseball the most boring sport in the world exc ept for cricket. I don't know what an "RBI" is. Railing on a sport is dumb.

My point is, the World cup isn't 5 games. It's a 2 year process to qualify, then the tournament itself. It's the biggest sporting event on the planet, whether you like it or not.

I replied to a post on page one, I had no idea how handsome you are, sorry... :kiss:

Oh I know about the qualifying process and all. I've watched every World Cup since I was born and I never liked how it is set up. I also don't like soccer as a sport and I've been around it all my life. I guess football spoiled me because before knowing anything about it I was all about soccer.

And I never said the world cup is just 5 games, all I said is you can win it in five games... because the major teams get in almost every single time. (except England last time maybe) Once you are in (and a bunch of teams have no trouble whatsoever getting in, like someone said... can sleepwalk their way into the cup) you don't need much to win it all... and I just don't like that.

I'll still watch and probably get into it once the ball starts rolling. As an event it is great fun... countries from all over the world battling it out in the most popular sport for the biggest cup. That's fun! But... I don't have to like the tourney!

And... your last comment deeply disturbs me . Hilarious!

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2010, 12:20 PM
The best part about this World Cup will be the gratuitous coverage of Shakira.

Jens1893
06-07-2010, 12:31 PM
The best part about this World Cup will be the gratuitous coverage of Shakira.

The bitch held up the Germany team plane last night as her flight from Madrid was delayed.

epicSocialism4tw
06-07-2010, 05:28 PM
Convenient that you picked Seattle. They double the average attendance of the rest of the league. It is big, there, for sure. The other cities? Not so much.

And the only reason they beat NBA attendance is because NBA arenas cannot hold that many people. We've been over this many times.

Seattle is the new standard for the league.

Expansion franchises in Portland and Vancouver are expected to be high attendance franchises as well. This year's expansion franchise is averaging 30,000 a game.

You can try to minimize the success of the league, but its continuing to establish itself in markets around the country and with big TV deals with ESPN and Fox Sports, the MLS will continue to establish itself as a presence on TV.