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Tombstone RJ
05-25-2010, 09:56 PM
I know there's a thread somewhere already started about guns and people's gun preferences. However, I can't seem to find it, but I have a few questions. There is a store that is selling a .475 Wildey for $1100 which seems like a pretty good price. I've read mixed reviews on the Wildey. Anyone own one of these or have fired one of these? I'm thinking about maybe buying it but I'm just not sure it's worth the money. I've also read that Wildey Guns has gone under even though their web site makes it look like they are a viable company. Any knowledge about this gun or the company is much appreciated.

Dagmar
05-25-2010, 10:10 PM
I found a 9mm luger bullet in my yard. It was strange. It wasn't fired. Lordy.

Tombstone RJ
05-25-2010, 10:29 PM
A luger 9mm? How can you tell? Lugers are pretty rare...

Florida_Bronco
05-25-2010, 10:45 PM
A luger 9mm? How can you tell? Lugers are pretty rare...

9x19mm (aka, the 9mm) cartridge was made by Georg Luger and because of that it's sometimes called the 9mm Luger. 8')

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum

Dagmar
05-26-2010, 04:48 AM
A luger 9mm? How can you tell? Lugers are pretty rare...

It says it on the thing. It also says W-W. I'm from the UK, I know nothing of guns.

Tombstone RJ
05-26-2010, 09:29 AM
9x19mm (aka, the 9mm) cartridge was made by Georg Luger and because of that it's sometimes called the 9mm Luger. 8')

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x19mm_Parabellum

uh-oh, you went all wiki on me...

Dagmar
05-26-2010, 10:13 AM
This is it, W-W on the top part, 9 mm luger on the bottom part.

http://i49.tinypic.com/15oe368.jpg

Meck77
05-26-2010, 10:19 AM
I found a 9mm luger bullet in my yard. It was strange. It wasn't fired. Lordy.

You should have moved to Aurora. Sounds like you moved to the "hood". ;)

Dagmar
05-26-2010, 10:25 AM
You should have moved to Aurora. Sounds like you moved to the "hood". ;)

Nah, I am in a really nice area, the guy who lived here before was a "artist". There is a dentist chair in my yard too!

HILife
05-26-2010, 10:29 AM
I found a 9mm luger bullet in my yard. It was strange. It wasn't fired. Lordy.

Sounds like a warning. You know how in movies they throw a brick through a window with a note attached to it. Same thing. Open the bullet and see if there is a note inside.

HILife
05-26-2010, 10:30 AM
I just bought a glock 23. I got it to take to the range and shoot for fun.

Durango
05-26-2010, 10:35 AM
I know there's a thread somewhere already started about guns and people's gun preferences. However, I can't seem to find it, but I have a few questions. There is a store that is selling a .475 Wildey for $1100 which seems like a pretty good price. I've read mixed reviews on the Wildey. Anyone own one of these or have fired one of these? I'm thinking about maybe buying it but I'm just not sure it's worth the money. I've also read that Wildey Guns has gone under even though their web site makes it look like they are a viable company. Any knowledge about this gun or the company is much appreciated.

I've actually had some inquiries into this line of weapons and about all I know about it is that it's what you might think of as the new 'cutting edge' of design. The much-reduced recoil and the weapon design itself is the principal selling point of the Wildey line, but there isn't a lot of information available related to reliability and durability.

The interchangeable barrels give it a creative versatility I guess, and they are pricey, especially the cartridges. The weapons themselves certainly have a 'space age', intimidating look to them.

Vegas_Bronco
05-26-2010, 11:46 AM
Dude for $1100 you can look just like this bad boy...

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Charles-Bronson---Death-Wish-Photograph-C10102736.jpeg

azbroncfan
05-26-2010, 12:12 PM
This is it, W-W on the top part, 9 mm luger on the bottom part.

http://i49.tinypic.com/15oe368.jpg

That is just th manufacturer winchester.

Dagmar
05-26-2010, 12:15 PM
That is just th manufacturer winchester.

I see. Thanks.

Tombstone RJ
05-26-2010, 12:28 PM
Dude for $1100 you can look just like this bad boy...

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Charles-Bronson---Death-Wish-Photograph-C10102736.jpeg

Yah, that's the pistol's big claim to fame... kinda looks like Dirty Harry's .44 Auto Mag, only uglier, more form/function looking.

Vegas_Bronco
05-26-2010, 12:30 PM
I recommend this if you don't already have one... 45 Springfield XD with a flashlight and laser point locater...with some stainless steel cased hollow tips. you can get the entire package for less than the amount of that Widley...and you look a lot better - lol.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SL_U1cg0AUI/AAAAAAAAAgw/GxQMQDeffHE/s320/45+Automatic+Colt+Pistol+(ACP)+ammunition,+loaded+ with+hollow+point+bullets.jpg

my favorite carry gun ever. If you haven't held one in your hands, you're missing out. It becomes an extension of your hand almost automatically and is so natural (combines the best of glok, beretta and springfield).

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STspringfieldxd_061206A.jpg

Tombstone RJ
05-26-2010, 12:46 PM
I've actually had some inquiries into this line of weapons and about all I know about it is that it's what you might think of as the new 'cutting edge' of design. The much-reduced recoil and the weapon design itself is the principal selling point of the Wildey line, but there isn't a lot of information available related to reliability and durability.

The interchangeable barrels give it a creative versatility I guess, and they are pricey, especially the cartridges. The weapons themselves certainly have a 'space age', intimidating look to them.

It's a gas operated semi-auto pistol but I'm not sure how that is different than the Desert Eagle. DE's big claim to fame is that it's the only gas operated big caliber semi-auto pistol, yet Wildey is also gas operated.

It's a hand cannon for sure and yes, the cartridge cost does give me pause. I've read that if you like to load your own cartridges then it's the gun for you. I've also been to some forums where the people talking about the gun say that it's not really designed all that well, etc...

If you go to wildeyguns.com it's MSRP is $1,500-$1,600.00 which is very much in line with what a brand new DE costs. The DE and the Wildey also are similar in that with just a little work, you can change the caliber of the gun. What's gimmicky about the Wildey is that you can supposedly control the gas pressure rate too.

Seems like a good concept, it's advertised as a hunting gun (so is the DE). However IMHO I'm just not sure if it's worth it.

Tombstone RJ
05-26-2010, 12:56 PM
I just bought a glock 23. I got it to take to the range and shoot for fun.

I'm seriously considering a glock. They make one that shoots the .357 SIG which is a great cartridge. In fact, I read somewhere that like the Tennessee Highway Patrol has made this their standard side arm because of the fantastic capacity of the .357 SIG combined with the glock platform. If you're forced to spray lead around then this is a great side arm to have.

Tombstone RJ
05-26-2010, 12:58 PM
I recommend this if you don't already have one... 45 Springfield XD with a flashlight and laser point locater...with some stainless steel cased hollow tips. you can get the entire package for less than the amount of that Widley...and you look a lot better - lol.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SL_U1cg0AUI/AAAAAAAAAgw/GxQMQDeffHE/s320/45+Automatic+Colt+Pistol+(ACP)+ammunition,+loaded+ with+hollow+point+bullets.jpg

my favorite carry gun ever. If you haven't held one in your hands, you're missing out. It becomes an extension of your hand almost automatically and is so natural (combines the best of glok, beretta and springfield).

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STspringfieldxd_061206A.jpg

Wow, I like the looks of that pistol.

bronclvr
05-26-2010, 01:05 PM
I'm seriously considering a glock. They make one that shoots the .357 SIG which is a great cartridge. In fact, I read somewhere that like the Tennessee Highway Patrol has made this their standard side arm because of the fantastic capacity of the .357 SIG combined with the glock platform. If you're forced to spray lead around then this is a great side arm to have.

If you like a plastic Gun-most LEO's are going Glock because of Price-I am a big Colt fan-why not own the original 1911?

HILife
05-26-2010, 03:06 PM
I'm seriously considering a glock. They make one that shoots the .357 SIG which is a great cartridge. In fact, I read somewhere that like the Tennessee Highway Patrol has made this their standard side arm because of the fantastic capacity of the .357 SIG combined with the glock platform. If you're forced to spray lead around then this is a great side arm to have.

Mines a .40cal. I was thinking about the .357Sig, but I wasn't sure how easy it was to find ammo for it and I believe it cost more. .357Sig supposly has a loader bang and larger recoil. I'm happy with my .40 cal. If you really want some "boom glock" look at the 10mm. That will stop anybody.

HILife
05-26-2010, 03:07 PM
I recommend this if you don't already have one... 45 Springfield XD with a flashlight and laser point locater...with some stainless steel cased hollow tips. you can get the entire package for less than the amount of that Widley...and you look a lot better - lol.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SL_U1cg0AUI/AAAAAAAAAgw/GxQMQDeffHE/s320/45+Automatic+Colt+Pistol+(ACP)+ammunition,+loaded+ with+hollow+point+bullets.jpg

my favorite carry gun ever. If you haven't held one in your hands, you're missing out. It becomes an extension of your hand almost automatically and is so natural (combines the best of glok, beretta and springfield).

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STspringfieldxd_061206A.jpg

I hear Springfields are good guns. I should've done some research on them before I bought the Glock.

Florida_Bronco
05-26-2010, 03:21 PM
I'm seriously considering a glock. They make one that shoots the .357 SIG which is a great cartridge. In fact, I read somewhere that like the Tennessee Highway Patrol has made this their standard side arm because of the fantastic capacity of the .357 SIG combined with the glock platform. If you're forced to spray lead around then this is a great side arm to have.

Those are nice guns.

Bronco Yoda
05-26-2010, 04:06 PM
I've got my eye on the Springfield Armory, XD(M) Pistol, 40 Smith & Wesson Caliber, Polymer Frame, 16 round Magazine, 4.5 inch Barrel Length

Vegas_Bronco
05-26-2010, 04:49 PM
My father in law and I have argued time and time again over the differences in Springfield XD and Glok.

He has a Glock 22 and carried it for about 10 years and then bought a Model 27, particularly due to the extended mag for the m22 could be used with the m27.

However, since HE has retired, I purchased a pair of XD's, a 4".40 and a 3" 9mm. These pistols are a virtual joy to shoot and seem to feel better in my hand... I believe that the grip angle forces the shooter to hold the firearm more correctly. I've never been able to accurately place aimed headshots at 20 yards with any Glock the way I can with these XD's in competition.

Well, I just found out through my bro-in-law that He just bought his 3rd XD...ha haaaaa!

Granted Glock came up with the lightweight frame/steel slide and barrel initially, but Springfield has improved on that design. The Springfield XD's are less expensive than Glocks brand new...making it for me the best concealed carry weapon. The Glock is at least partially manufactured in Austria while the XD is partly from Croatia. My ancestors are from Croatia...so I'm a homer.

I am waiting for XD to come out with either a .45 GAP or ACP in 3". When that happens, you will likely see me carrying as my sidekick.

So here's a vote for the XD and my father in law has now been converted too - although he'll never verbally admit it - stubborn as his daughter :)

RhymesayersDU
05-26-2010, 04:55 PM
Hey who can recommend me a good gun for somebody who has never fired one?

I don't think I need one per se... But I'd like one in my home. Just in case.

I plan on taking the classes, etc.

Vegas_Bronco
05-26-2010, 05:06 PM
Hey who can recommend me a good gun for somebody who has never fired one?

I don't think I need one per se... But I'd like one in my home. Just in case.

I plan on taking the classes, etc.

http://www.frontsight.com/Courses.asp?

Got a free weekend? Come down to Vegas and take one of these courses while the family plays....and I can get you in as a referral 1/2 price. The even offer bare hand defense and knife courses. Not trying to spam the thread but honestly this is the best thing I've ever found for gun training...nothing like it in the west.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQx8FzjxLjU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Yohikhl9_c&feature=related

My brother is now with Vegas SWAT after they saw his resume containing this training.

Florida_Bronco
05-26-2010, 05:11 PM
Hey who can recommend me a good gun for somebody who has never fired one?

Any decent semi-automatic handgun will be fine. Glocks, Springfield XD's, Smith & Wesson M&P models and Sig Sauers are all very simple to use and field strip.

RhymesayersDU
05-26-2010, 05:14 PM
Well I doubt I do the class. I mean if I'm in Vegas I'm going to be gambling and boozing.

But I do want to hit this place called The Gun Store in Vegas, and fire off an uzi or something.

Quoydogs
05-26-2010, 07:29 PM
I recommend this if you don't already have one... 45 Springfield XD with a flashlight and laser point locater...with some stainless steel cased hollow tips. you can get the entire package for less than the amount of that Widley...and you look a lot better - lol.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/SL_U1cg0AUI/AAAAAAAAAgw/GxQMQDeffHE/s320/45+Automatic+Colt+Pistol+(ACP)+ammunition,+loaded+ with+hollow+point+bullets.jpg

my favorite carry gun ever. If you haven't held one in your hands, you're missing out. It becomes an extension of your hand almost automatically and is so natural (combines the best of glok, beretta and springfield).

http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/STspringfieldxd_061206A.jpg

you should never have fun by getting an old thermometer that is filled with mercury. Carefully break it open and put a couple drops in each of the hollow points then cover it with wax from a candle.

You certainly would not blow a 8" round tree in half.

McDman
05-26-2010, 08:09 PM
http://www.czub.cz/upload/cz-big/CZ_75_BD_POLICE.pngThat's my piece. It's a great gun. CZ75BD Police issue. Accurate, just the right weight, and pretty. It's hard to have a better gun.

loborugger
05-26-2010, 08:12 PM
Hey who can recommend me a good gun for somebody who has never fired one?

I don't think I need one per se... But I'd like one in my home. Just in case.

I plan on taking the classes, etc.

If you are going for home security - 12 gauge shotgun. I picked up a Mossberg 500 pump for 200 bucks 10 years ago. I think they are still in that ball park. Someone comes in your house, just moving the action and making that trademark "yak yak" sound will cause all but the most hardened criminal to load his drawers.

To familiarize yourself with a weapon & practice firing - a .22 rifle. I have a Henry lever action .22 that I bought for like 100 bucks 15 years ago. You can buy a box of ammo for 10 bucks that will last forever, they aren't loud, they dont kick, etc.

Both of those weapons combined should cost you less than some high speed semi auto pistol.

McDman
05-26-2010, 09:21 PM
If you are going for home security - 12 gauge shotgun. I picked up a Mossberg 500 pump for 200 bucks 10 years ago. I think they are still in that ball park. Someone comes in your house, just moving the action and making that trademark "yak yak" sound will cause all but the most hardened criminal to load his drawers.

To familiarize yourself with a weapon & practice firing - a .22 rifle. I have a Henry lever action .22 that I bought for like 100 bucks 15 years ago. You can buy a box of ammo for 10 bucks that will last forever, they aren't loud, they dont kick, etc.

Both of those weapons combined should cost you less than some high speed semi auto pistol.

I won't get the yak yak sound, but I do have a shotgun, it's a double barrel Spartan. It's awesome.

Tombstone RJ
05-27-2010, 03:59 PM
http://www.czub.cz/upload/cz-big/CZ_75_BD_POLICE.pngThat's my piece. It's a great gun. CZ75BD Police issue. Accurate, just the right weight, and pretty. It's hard to have a better gun.

who makes this? CZ, is that Czech?

c_lazy_r
05-27-2010, 05:11 PM
If you like a plastic Gun-most LEO's are going Glock because of Price-I am a big Colt fan-why not own the original 1911?

Pretty hard to argue double (at least) the magazine capacity. If you really NEED a gun, having those extra rounds will make a difference.

I love 1911's but from a practical standpoint...

McDman
05-27-2010, 05:13 PM
Yeah, it's from the Czech. It's definitely worth a try to shoot.

Florida_Bronco
05-27-2010, 06:30 PM
Pretty hard to argue double (at least) the magazine capacity. If you really NEED a gun, having those extra rounds will make a difference.

I love 1911's but from a practical standpoint...

That, plus it takes alot of practice to really become proficient with a 1911. Glocks, Sigs, Springfield XD's and the like are much more "noob friendly".

On a side note, check out Para-Ordinance for double stack 1911's. ;)

strafen
05-27-2010, 06:42 PM
I just bought a glock 23. I got it to take to the range and shoot for fun.

How do you like it?
I've been eyeing that gun ever since I've shot my buddy's 23.
I've done a little research and I'm now debating between the Glock 23 or the Glock 23C
Got any more info?

I've had a S&W 44 Magnum 3/4 barrel. That thing was a monster of a gun. Loud enough for somebody to pee on their pants if they ever heard one shot nearby...

Vegas_Bronco
05-27-2010, 07:16 PM
http://www.czub.cz/upload/cz-big/CZ_75_BD_POLICE.pngThat's my piece. It's a great gun. CZ75BD Police issue. Accurate, just the right weight, and pretty. It's hard to have a better gun.

Lol - I have a way older version:

http://espolson.com/wp-content//Cz52.jpg

looks like this CZ52.

Vegas_Bronco
05-27-2010, 07:18 PM
That, plus it takes alot of practice to really become proficient with a 1911. Glocks, Sigs, Springfield XD's and the like are much more "noob friendly".

On a side note, check out Para-Ordinance for double stack 1911's. ;)

Couldn't agree with you more FB! you don't grab a 1911 for everyday carry unless your hauling azz down the I70 in a Hummer. It just doesn't work for everyday use. But absolutely love my Springfield 1911 .45 ACP.

Tombstone RJ
05-27-2010, 08:56 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions, esp. Vegas Bronco. The only reason I'm considering the Wildey is because it might become a collector's gun sometime in the future, so $1100 for a hand cannon that is supposed to sell for $1500 seems like a good deal. Who knows, maybe in 20 years it will be worth a lot more. That being said, I'd rather buy a pistol I actually want to take to the shooting range and yah know, shoot. I don't want to have to worry about it jamming and crap like that. I also want a gun that has readily available ammo that can be purchased just about anywhere. I'd like to get a semi-auto that fires the .357 sig but again, the ammo thing is a concern.

strafen
05-27-2010, 08:58 PM
Hey who can recommend me a good gun for somebody who has never fired one?

I don't think I need one per se... But I'd like one in my home. Just in case.

I plan on taking the classes, etc.A Glock hands down.
The Glock 23 is easily manageable, accurate and very reliable gun.

bronclvr
05-28-2010, 08:08 AM
I've had a S&W 44 Magnum 3/4 barrel. That thing was a monster of a gun. Loud enough for somebody to pee on their pants if they ever heard one shot nearby...

I boughht a beautiful model 29_2 S & W .44 Mag l.ast year from a collector still in the box w/tools. I really am a Smith guy in handgunsm but for 1911's 8 like COLTS

Tombstone RJ
05-28-2010, 08:41 AM
Anyone have a glock that fires the new 10mm round?

HILife
05-28-2010, 11:20 AM
How do you like it?
I've been eyeing that gun ever since I've shot my buddy's 23.
I've done a little research and I'm now debating between the Glock 23 or the Glock 23C
Got any more info?

I've had a S&W 44 Magnum 3/4 barrel. That thing was a monster of a gun. Loud enough for somebody to pee on their pants if they ever heard one shot nearby...

I love it.

Pros:

-It's got good accurace,
-light weight,
-good size (not to small, not to big)
-holds 13 rounds, but can use the Glock 22's magazine to give it to 15 rounds.
-It has more of a kick then I expected, but that's probably because I haven't shoot a .40cal before. Doesn't matter, I'm the kind of person that likes recol. It gives me an adrenaline rush.
-easy to field strip and clean.
-has a lot of accessories (lasers, light, etc.)
-can take a beating and keep shooting
-More good stuff that I can't think of right now.

Cons:
-Expensive
-not having a safety makes me nervous
-can't really think of anything else.

Yea, it's a gun I recommand.

Cito Pelon
05-29-2010, 02:27 AM
Nah, I am in a really nice area, the guy who lived here before was a "artist". There is a dentist chair in my yard too!

Maybe the previous tenant was an artist/showman. Had people firing 9mm rounds at him and caught them in his teeth in the dentist chair.

McDman
05-29-2010, 05:15 AM
Lol - I have a way older version:

http://espolson.com/wp-content//Cz52.jpg

looks like this CZ52.

Wow, that's old school. How do you like it? Has it held up over the years?