WHat the hell is Obama going to do about North Korea?

[cutthemdown]

He better make a stand soon. You would think this would be the big story. North Korea has sunk a S korean warship, the whole region is on the verge of a huge confrontation. The markets are plunging on the news. People in the region fear war!!!

Obama is a crappy leader. Just like Carter other countries going hog ****ing crazy because he's weak.

Oh sure he will fire some drone rockets and fight the crap army of the taliban, but any real teeth he has no stomach for.

We should have already responded with military action. This is what you get because Bush SR, Clinton, Bush JR all failed to stop there nuke program.

Obama can get a glimpse right here of what Iran will do in gulf once they have a nuclear weapon.

[Rohirrim]

Yeah. He should nuke Pyongyang.

[cutthemdown]

I think by making the nuke option your point it is your way of trying to say its too big to tackle. Same thing Obama and the world want to do.

My point is do it now or in the end it could destroy the whole region. This family and country is unstable and eventually will use there nukes.

To avoid the horror, we should bite the bullet right now.

[cutthemdown]

At least you bomb there submarine facilities.

[cutthemdown]

What sucks is any recovery the world was going to have is probably set back now. This will really hurt the markets in Asia. So we have Greece screwing up Europe, N Korea screwing up Asia, still have terrorists running around everywhere, calif going bankrupt, now this.

[W*GS]

It's too early in the day to be so drunk, cut.

Dropping nukes on North Korea is asinine.

[TailgateNut]

It's too early in the day to be so drunk, cut.

Dropping nukes on North Korea is asinine.


Cutt should stick to blowing on his horn or twanging his guitar.

[Spider]

I think by making the nuke option your point it is your way of trying to say its too big to tackle. Same thing Obama and the world want to do.

My point is do it now or in the end it could destroy the whole region. This family and country is unstable and eventually will use there nukes.

To avoid the horror, we should bite the bullet right now.

put the bottle down , and step back .... find a 12 step program

[Smiling Assassin27]

Well, he's basically Bush-lite....which means he's going golfing, followed by a beer summit in Seoul!

The x-factor here is China. I'm guessing they'll be working the phones vigorously, as they dont' want a huge influx of Korean refugees when these two throw down. It's also in their interest to broker this (aka, 'strong arm') to assume a leadership role in the world.

We should hang back but also let SK know we have their back. Thus far, China's not been pressed into service because we've been there to posture and prance. We've got two foreign wars on our plate, to boot, so China's been silent watching us expend ourselves here, there, and everywhere...hip..hip..so hip to be square...but i digress.

[Rigs11]

good God people around here are idiots. North korea is NOT a weak military country like Iraq or Afghanistan were.gotta love the Rambo types around here.Our military is already stretched to its breaking point and they act like we can just start a war over there.Yeah Obama is a crappy leader why? because he wont make any threats against that country?

[Mr.Meanie]

He better make a stand soon. You would think this would be the big story. North Korea has sunk a S korean warship, the whole region is on the verge of a huge confrontation. The markets are plunging on the news. People in the region fear war!!!

Obama is a crappy leader. Just like Carter other countries going hog ****ing crazy because he's weak.

Oh sure he will fire some drone rockets and fight the crap army of the taliban, but any real teeth he has no stomach for.

We should have already responded with military action. This is what you get because Bush SR, Clinton, Bush JR all failed to stop there nuke program.

Obama can get a glimpse right here of what Iran will do in gulf once they have a nuclear weapon.

Um... not imperiously declaring war on N. Korea and creating a giant political clusterfrak with China (while entrenched in 2 other simultaneous wars and in the throes of a deep recession) is "crappy leadership"? Srsly? Wow.

Wish we would have had this kind of crappy leadership 9 years ago...

[Smiling Assassin27]

good God people around here are idiots. North korea is NOT a weak military country like Iraq or Afghanistan were.gotta love the Rambo types around here.Our military is already stretched to its breaking point and they act like we can just start a war over there.Yeah Obama is a crappy leader why? because he wont make any threats against that country?

South Korea would stomp North Korea, albeit after taking some big losses. North Korea's army has no logistics and so the only supplies they'd have would be on their backs. I don't believe SK would initiate war over a single ship being sunk, so if anything, it'd be NK firing the first shot. The only problem is that the US would have SK on a leash and China would not let SK finish the deal, either.

No positive outcome exists for the US in this, so sending troops and initiating rash military operations makes no sense. Finally, our president is not a hawk. Nor is he a humanitarian. He's a politician, plain and simple. He will look to his left, then to his right with that 'what should i do?' look, and they will tell him what strategy will preserve his power, legacy, and his image. As with Afghanistan, this will take a long time, and it's quite possible it will cost lives. At any rate, checking is superior to betting and raising at this point in the game, which as we've seen, is Obama's knee-jerk play anyway.

[ghwk]

South Korea would stomp North Korea, albeit after taking some big losses. North Korea's army has no logistics and so the only supplies they'd have would be on their backs. I don't believe SK would initiate war over a single ship being sunk, so if anything, it'd be NK firing the first shot. The only problem is that the US would have SK on a leash and China would not let SK finish the deal, either.

No positive outcome exists for the US in this, so sending troops and initiating rash military operations makes no sense. Finally, our president is not a hawk. Nor is he a humanitarian. He's a politician, plain and simple. He will look to his left, then to his right with that 'what should i do?' look, and they will tell him what strategy will preserve his power, legacy, and his image. As with Afghanistan, this will take a long time, and it's quite possible it will cost lives. At any rate, checking is superior to betting and raising at this point in the game, which as we've seen, is Obama's knee-jerk play anyway.

You do know that NK has nukes right?

[spdirty]

Man I hate this ****. Would love nothing more than for that son of a bitch to face the same fate as saddam. And to see those poor North Koreans finally get a taste of what their brothers and sisters to the south of them have...But NK's army is NOT the republican guard or the taliban. We will have complete air superiority but their army is so freaking studly that the casualties will be so high. Not to mention the loss of life by our fighting men and women. And if they invaded with that army they would probably take half of SK within a day. And they have the nuke now. That whole situation is such a dillema, and those bastards might force our hand.

Glad Im not there anymore.

[RMT]

invite their leadership over here to speak to Congress about our immigration law & its racial profiling which will receive a standing ovation from the democrats.

[DenverBrit]

What sucks is any recovery the world was going to have is probably set back now. This will really hurt the markets in Asia. So we have Greece screwing up Europe, N Korea screwing up Asia, still have terrorists running around everywhere, calif going bankrupt, now this.

I'm sure bombing N Korea will settle the markets down and solve the financial crisis. Ha!

[Dudeskey]

You do know that NK has nukes right?

Yep, they have nukes which means they could experience an 'accident'... Just sayin'

[cutthemdown]

So what about when they sink another ship? Eventually when the Kim Jong family finally loses its grip they will nuke south Korea. These guys are crazy. Either it happens on our terms, or we pussy foot around with them and it happens on there's. I'm saying its that bad. Eventually the Korean war will have to be finished. It's not a matter of if IMO.

In a flash the whole capital is gone and they can't respond. Probably save a million lives in S Korea and Japan.

Go ahead though and think they won't. Just like no one though they would sink a ship. It's only the start. Eventually war breaks out.

[cutthemdown]

Trust me if someone sunk one of our ships and killed Americans you would all feel different.

[cutthemdown]

I'm sure bombing N Korea will settle the markets down and solve the financial crisis. Ha!

Yep that's why they get away with it. People so scared to bite the bullet. When he's on his death bed, or his son is, and the country going into civil war, the last ditch response will be to nuke whoever they can.

My guess is Tokyo and Seoul. They friggin hate the japanese. The Japanese were brutal the Koreans and the Chinese.

Crazy plus nukes plus not afraid to attack people IMO = war at some point. A pre-emptive strike that could knock out the leadership to the point someone surrenders could be the ticket to save lives.

If N Korea just talked smack then I would say leave them alone. They just sunk a warship though. They are crazy and have to be dealt with. No ****ing way we can let them get away with sinking ships.

We have to at least bomb them. Then if they respond finish it once and for all. Let's get it over with.

[cutthemdown]

remember this mess when speaking of Iran. Iran tests a nuke, with there missile technology, and we are ****ed. They can shut down the gulf and sink ships right? If you all want to let N Korea get away with it, then obviously you would also let Iran get away it.

One day you will all see the mistake we are making. Iran will test a nuke and now we have them and N Korea we have to be pussies with.

[Mr.Meanie]

Trust me if someone sunk one of our ships and killed Americans you would all feel different.

You are right because that would be an act of war on the U.S. I'm not sure what the parallel is that you're trying to draw here...

[W*GS]

One day you will all see the mistake we are making. Iran will test a nuke and now we have them and N Korea we have to be pussies with.

What should we do?

Nuke Tehran and Pyongyang?

[TailgateNut]

Yep that's why they get away with it. People so scared to bite the bullet. When he's on his death bed, or his son is, and the country going into civil war, the last ditch response will be to nuke whoever they can.

My guess is Tokyo and Seoul. They friggin hate the japanese. The Japanese were brutal the Koreans and the Chinese.

Crazy plus nukes plus not afraid to attack people IMO = war at some point. A pre-emptive strike that could knock out the leadership to the point someone surrenders could be the ticket to save lives.

If N Korea just talked smack then I would say leave them alone. They just sunk a warship though. They are crazy and have to be dealt with. No ****ing way we can let them get away with sinking ships.

We have to at least bomb them. Then if they respond finish it once and for all. Let's get it over with.


Mucho brawn, Zero brain!

You really should join up for a a few years in the military and then revisit your opinion!

[Bronco_Beerslug]

He better make a stand soon. You would think this would be the big story. North Korea has sunk a S korean warship, the whole region is on the verge of a huge confrontation. The markets are plunging on the news. People in the region fear war!!!
Obama is a crappy leader. Just like Carter other countries going hog ****ing crazy because he's weak.
Oh sure he will fire some drone rockets and fight the crap army of the taliban, but any real teeth he has no stomach for.
We should have already responded with military action. This is what you get because Bush SR, Clinton, Bush JR all failed to stop there nuke program.
Obama can get a glimpse right here of what Iran will do in gulf once they have a nuclear weapon.You are just as bat **** looney as NK is.

[DenverBrit]

Yep that's why they get away with it. People so scared to bite the bullet. When he's on his death bed, or his son is, and the country going into civil war, the last ditch response will be to nuke whoever they can.

My guess is Tokyo and Seoul. They friggin hate the japanese. The Japanese were brutal the Koreans and the Chinese.

Crazy plus nukes plus not afraid to attack people IMO = war at some point. A pre-emptive strike that could knock out the leadership to the point someone surrenders could be the ticket to save lives.

If N Korea just talked smack then I would say leave them alone. They just sunk a warship though. They are crazy and have to be dealt with. No ****ing way we can let them get away with sinking ships.

We have to at least bomb them. Then if they respond finish it once and for all. Let's get it over with.

You'd make Dick Cheney proud. Ha!

[Smiling Assassin27]

You do know that NK has nukes right?

Yes, NK could inflict serious damage but would lose any kind of prolonged war. Not to mention the blowback of radiation in NK, killing scores there as well. Consider that SK provides 50% of the food that NK currently eats and you've got a hairy situation that NK cannot win.

China's the only nation that can effectively squeeze/push NK. SK won't likely initiate an invasion or something because there's just not much for them to acquire or gain from NK in doing so. Even less so for the US.

One thing I wouldn't recommend is taking this to the UN.

[Bronco Yoda]

What should we do?

Nuke Tehran and Pyongyang?


Both. We got plenty to go around.

No need for boots on the ground.

[cutthemdown]

What should we do?

Nuke Tehran and Pyongyang?

Im not saying I'm smart enough to know what to do. I'm saying I'm smart enough to see where this is all headed.

At some point people will rue the day they let these 2 countries get nuclear weapons.

We should do whatever it takes to keep them from Iran.

[cutthemdown]

A few years from now when one of these countries nukes someone you will all see certain people will right. We should have stopped these ****ers.

Maybe you all get lucky and it happens after you are gone.

[cutthemdown]

Can't we at least sink one of there subs or something? Cmon!!!

[cutthemdown]

Mucho brawn, Zero brain!

You really should join up for a a few years in the military and then revisit your opinion!

It's real simple. If your a cop, and you get paid, I expect you to chase criminals. I myself probably would not chase after a criminal as that is not my job. If you are a firefighter then you get paid to fight fires. I would probably not be down fighting a wildfire because I'm not trained for that, I don't get paid for that.

Likewise I would imagine that anyone who is a soldier has been trained and chose to be in the military. I wouldn't advocate a draft because I think military action is something enough people like that you will get volunteers. It would be logical to assume that if countries start sinking ships, that if you are a soldier, you could end up fighting. Your job is to do that.

I hope I'm wrong though. But I bet someday a lot of people die because either Iran or N Korea drops a nuke on someone. Friggin Iranians don't even care about this world, its the afterlife they worry about.

[cutthemdown]

Tailgate if I had joined military though it would have made you sick. I had an offer to go into the marine corps band right out of HS. I probably should have done it.

[cutthemdown]

The musicians in the military get treated really well. Lot's of promotions, easier duty, easier boot camp.

[barryr]

It's about time for Obama and the UN to make some tough speeches since we have seen the last decade how effective that has been. Everyone sat on their asses while North Korea developed nukes and we apparently plan to do the same with Iran. But talk tough, that'll show them.

[Spider]

It's about time for Obama and the UN to make some tough speeches since we have seen the last decade how effective that has been. Everyone sat on their asses while North Korea developed nukes and we apparently plan to do the same with Iran. But talk tough, that'll show them.

LOL and Bush showed em what ?

[ScottXray]

The musicians in the military get treated really well. Lot's of promotions, easier duty, easier boot camp.

And this is the reason you might have joined? Real patriotic.

When I was stationed in Korea in 70-71 I was on a missile air defense battery.
We were the furthest south battery, and we had nukes with both surface air and surface to surface ability. Our SOP was to do air defense with our conventional warheads and reserve our 8 nukes for use on the two things ..

1. Offensive elements of the NKA and chinese ground forces.
2. We were to take out any of the other 7 sites that had nukes if they fell
into North or South Korean hands.

After expending our missiles we were to revert to a combat infantry company.
Of course we never had more than 3 days of fresh food, and the C rations we had in storage would have lasted about one week. Why...because we would have been dead about 30 minutes or so after things went hot....no need to waste resources on dead units. ( the other sites also had orders to nuke us for the same reasons)

I note that we did NOT have release keys or any control elements required to arm and launch our nukes...just slap them on the rail and enter your target coordinates. Once launched the nukes were armed... Of course the missile lockers were heavily secured...but south Korean marines would have easily beaten our security forces.
We also had regular training and coordination with the SKA. They knew how to run our systems.

Anyway, the point is that there are NO winners once nuclear weapons start getting tossed. And Obama has already made the point that we will fulfill our commitments to South Korea if things go down.

The Chinese are the people that have to curb that particular dog of theirs....and they have made public statements that any kind of war is unacceptable.

This is their bailiwick...not ours.

[cutthemdown]

We should sink every sub and ship n korea has. How can we allow them to sink ships when they get a hair up there ass?

If we don't squash them now eventually we will regret it. Handle N Korea now, or handle them later. For sure though eventually the Korean war will have to be finished and ended once and for all.

Wars that don't have a clear cut winner are destined to be fought again. Wars in which the loser in punished too harshly are destined to be fought again. If we would just remember those 2 truisms of war we would be more successful.

We should do everything we can to turn China against N Korea. Maybe even do something to help that come to fruition. Russia IMO will go along with it as long as we let them be heavy handed in the Balkans which I don't really think hurts Americas interests too much.

The world should make a deal right now to remove N Koreas leadership from the face of the earth. Wait too long and eventually they will start a war anyways. Might as well do it before they have built 5-6-7 nuclear devices. As it is they only probably have a couple and they aren't even on a missile.

[cutthemdown]

And this is the reason you might have joined? Real patriotic.

When I was stationed in Korea in 70-71 I was on a missile air defense battery.
We were the furthest south battery, and we had nukes with both surface air and surface to surface ability. Our SOP was to do air defense with our conventional warheads and reserve our 8 nukes for use on the two things ..

1. Offensive elements of the NKA and chinese ground forces.
2. We were to take out any of the other 7 sites that had nukes if they fell
into North or South Korean hands.

After expending our missiles we were to revert to a combat infantry company.
Of course we never had more than 3 days of fresh food, and the C rations we had in storage would have lasted about one week. Why...because we would have been dead about 30 minutes or so after things went hot....no need to waste resources on dead units. ( the other sites also had orders to nuke us for the same reasons)

I note that we did NOT have release keys or any control elements required to arm and launch our nukes...just slap them on the rail and enter your target coordinates. Once launched the nukes were armed... Of course the missile lockers were heavily secured...but south Korean marines would have easily beaten our security forces.
We also had regular training and coordination with the SKA. They knew how to run our systems.

Anyway, the point is that there are NO winners once nuclear weapons start getting tossed. And Obama has already made the point that we will fulfill our commitments to South Korea if things go down.

The Chinese are the people that have to curb that particular dog of theirs....and they have made public statements that any kind of war is unacceptable.

This is their bailiwick...not ours.

The point is musicians get treated well in the military. Not sure what me making that point has to do with patriotism but just because you had a crappy job in the military doesn't mean you were more patriotic then someone who didn't serve. Patriotism is a love for your country not something you have to prove by being a grunt. Some people aren't cut out for military, I was too undisciplined and selfish when I was younger. Thats why I didn't do it.

Someday N Korea is going to start a war. We will end up dealing with them. My point is to do it now before they really perfect there nukes.

It wouldn't be as hard or big as all of you think. We could stomp that whole piss ant military in 3-4 weeks.

Once we started dropping fuel air bombs on there positions there whole million man army would surrender trust me. They would be starving, without gas and ammo within 1 month. Then have S Korean army swoop north and take over the whole shabang. Be the best thing that every happened for N Koreans who managed to stay alive. Right now they are better off dead.

[cutthemdown]

We should at least send some subs in and sink on of N Koreas subs. Really they couldnt even know for sure what happened.

My friend in the navy says there are several incidents a yr between subs from different countries you never hear about. According to him a sub he was on was hit by a torpedo that wasn't armed. Liked the soviets did it just to show them they could have sunk them. This was back in the late 80's. I don't see how we can let N Korea sink a ****ing ship and have only words as the response. ****ing weak man....Carter weak. Obama will learn the hard way America hates pussies.

[chadta]

Not sure what me making that point has to do with patriotism but just because you had a crappy job in the military doesn't mean you were more patriotic then someone who didn't serve. Patriotism is a love for your country not something you have to prove by being a grunt. Some people aren't cut out for military,

yeah well its easy to talk about love for your country when you never ever have to actually do anything to prove it, show some friggin respect will ya, memorial day was yesterday and this is how you talk to a vet, somebody who was willing to give his life for the freedoms that we all enjoy today. Sure he didnt join the band, an get a cushy job playing music, he wasnt that dedicated, but i mean what he did was ok too.


I was too undisciplined and selfish when I was younger. Thats why I didn't do it.

WOW thats a surprise

[watermock]

He got rained out like the Cubs.

He's a shill for the MIC just like like the past 5.

Thelast president who had balls was Nixon.

[TailgateNut]

yeah well its easy to talk about love for your country when you never ever have to actually do anything to prove it, show some friggin respect will ya, memorial day was yesterday and this is how you talk to a vet, somebody who was willing to give his life for the freedoms that we all enjoy today. Sure he didnt join the band, an get a cushy job playing music, he wasnt that dedicated, but i mean what he did was ok too.



WOW thats a surprise


...and it's easier to beat the war drums, if your silly ass isn't serving nor facing the possibility of being killed.
Cutt = "the real hero"Hilarious!

[Spider]

...and it's easier to beat the war drums, if your silly ass isn't serving nor facing the possibility of being killed.
Cutt = "the real hero"Hilarious!

yep those that dont have to do the fighting are the ones that shout the loudest for war .........

[chadta]

...and it's easier to beat the war drums, if your silly ass isn't serving nor facing the possibility of being killed.
Cutt = "the real hero"Hilarious!

never beat the war drums

just didnt like the way cutt was pissing on everything the brave men and women who did serve did for us, it is possible to be anti war yet for our troops.

[epicSocialism4tw]

He better make a stand soon. You would think this would be the big story. North Korea has sunk a S korean warship, the whole region is on the verge of a huge confrontation. The markets are plunging on the news. People in the region fear war!!!

Obama is a crappy leader. Just like Carter other countries going hog ****ing crazy because he's weak.

Oh sure he will fire some drone rockets and fight the crap army of the taliban, but any real teeth he has no stomach for.

We should have already responded with military action. This is what you get because Bush SR, Clinton, Bush JR all failed to stop there nuke program.

Obama can get a glimpse right here of what Iran will do in gulf once they have a nuclear weapon.

Its not any wonder that these rogue nations are getting ballsy. Obama is a wuss. His noodle spine isnt strong enough for the toughest challenges.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Its not any wonder that these rogue nations are getting ballsy. Obama is a wuss. His noodle spine isnt strong enough for the toughest challenges.Nominated for the stupidest post of year.
Your hypocritical, ignorant arse is now on par with barry ramey, congratulations!

[DenverBrit]

Its not any wonder that these rogue nations are getting ballsy. Obama is a wuss. His noodle spine isnt strong enough for the toughest challenges.

Will you be volunteering to go and fight in N Korea?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The musicians in the military get treated really well. Lot's of promotions, easier duty, easier boot camp.Really? What branch would that be?

[epicSocialism4tw]

Will you be volunteering to go and fight in N Korea?

I didnt say anything about going to war. Obama should be focusing on putting pressure on China to resolve this. Instead his people are over there apologizing for the Arizona immigration law...projecting more weakness and discord.

Obama is single handedly undercutting all of the foreign interests of the US and the west over the last century. He's naive.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I didnt say anything about going to war. Of course not, your ilk never does. They want someone else to go for them.

[spdirty]

It wouldn't be as hard or big as all of you think. We could stomp that whole piss ant military in 3-4 weeks.

When 9-11-2001 at 11:30 in the ROK. We were recalled from the bar back to base. When I got on base we were in threatcon Delta. I asked my buddy at the gate wtf was going on he had no idea. Had to report to our squadron with all our chem gear and nobody knew wtf was going on. For about 1 hour of my life i thought i was going to war with NK. I have never ever ever been that scared in my life and for you to call them a piss ant military shows you are ignorant at best.

They may be crazy, they may be stupid, they may be tyrannical, but the last thing in the world the NK Army and SOF forces are is pussies. And their best chance is for us to disrespect what they are capable of, with or without a nuke. They are not the Republican guard, or the Taliban. They are badass mother ****ers that could kill you several different ways.

Be a good idea for you to try to educate yourself about NK before showing this kind of ignorance.

[spdirty]

Better yet, go ask a Korean War vet about that "piss ant army."

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Better yet, go ask a Korean War vet about that "piss ant army."A real Army for sure but the possibility exists that whoever attacks NK would also be fighting the Chinese.

[spdirty]

A real Army for sure but the possibility exists that whoever attacks NK would also be fighting the Chinese.

A preemptive strike makes a war with China a very real possibility. Though I dont think (and hope) China would fight alongside NK if NK invades.

Starting to think that China's little pit bull has gotten too wild even for them to control.

[cutthemdown]

...and it's easier to beat the war drums, if your silly ass isn't serving nor facing the possibility of being killed.
Cutt = "the real hero"Hilarious!

Considering the fact N Korea sinking warships I would guess maybe our President should do something. He won't though because he's spineless and weak. 4 and done for this guy.

[cutthemdown]

Better yet, go ask a Korean War vet about that "piss ant army."

You mean like my dad. Here's the thing in 1955 they were a lot more capable compared to the USA. Now though our technology has just destroyed them. They haven't progressed that much, we have, a whole lot.

Am I saying they aren't dangerous? Obviously they are they just sunk a ship. Better deal with them soon but our President is joke.

[cutthemdown]

You are right because that would be an act of war on the U.S. I'm not sure what the parallel is that you're trying to draw here...

An attack on an ally about the same thing considering the parameters the Korean war ended on.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Considering the fact N Korea sinking warships I would guess maybe our President should do something. He won't though because he's spineless and weak. 4 and done for this guy.Just like all the other presidents were, right?
So we should attack China (NK) just to "show em who's boss", is that your thinking?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

A preemptive strike makes a war with China a very real possibility. Though I dont think (and hope) China would fight alongside NK if NK invades.

Starting to think that China's little pit bull has gotten too wild even for them to control.I have no doubt China would provide troops and equipment should the U.S. attack NK.

[spdirty]

I have no doubt China would provide troops and equipment should the U.S. attack NK.

But if NK invades and forces our hand, what does China do?

But I think any president would be absolutely crazy to launch a preemptive strike without running it by China and getting China's stamp of approval first. A stamp of approval from them will likely never happen which is why we should never invade NK.

[gyldenlove]

But if NK invades and forces our hand, what does China do?

But I think any president would be absolutely crazy to launch a preemptive strike without running it by China and getting China's stamp of approval first. A stamp of approval from them will likely never happen which is why we should never invade NK.

Nothing, if NK attacks China will just sit back and watch as NK is annihilated as long as Chinese institutions in NK are not targeted.

The easiest way to control NK is to wait for an epidemic of flu or something similar in East Asia, NK has the worst health care system in that region and would be hit very hardly. If a situation arises where NK loses 20-30% of its population it would be possible to use that situation to depose the little dick-tator.

An outright attack on NK would be a mistake right now, I doubt China would ultimately do much about it except some posturing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of volunteers from Manchuria and other regions close to NK volunteer service in NK, several old school communists from Russia could potentially go as well.

[kappys]

Rumor is that Kim Jong Il has pancreatic cancer. Even in the best of hands the five year survival rate is pretty dismal. Wonder if he's just flexing his muscles from the death bed or if some new leaders are preparing to step in and want to be sure that the world understands the new bosses are the same as the old.

[elsid13]

Rumor is that Kim Jong Il has pancreatic cancer. Even in the best of hands the five year survival rate is pretty dismal. Wonder if he's just flexing his muscles from the death bed or if some new leaders are preparing to step in and want to be sure that the world understands the new bosses are the same as the old.

More likely it is setting the stage for his son to be declared a war "hero" and take over within NK.

[elsid13]

And answer to original post on this thread:

WASHINGTON – The U.S. is considering dispatching the massive aircraft carrier USS George Washington to the waters where North Korea allegedly sank a South Korean warship, defense officials said Wednesday.


The deployment of the nuclear-powered carrier, one of the world's largest warships, would represent a major show of force by the U.S., which has vowed to protect South Korea and is seeking to blunt aggression from North Korea.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_us_korea