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OrangeCrush2724
05-14-2010, 09:35 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5178139.

Which college is the pipeline for the NFL?

Its tough to argue with Ronnie Lott, Marcus Allen, Bruce Mathews, Antony Munoz, Troy Polamalu, Junior Seau. But UM holds its own.

Just the 2001 UM team consisted of: RB: Clinton Portis, Frank Gore, Nadje Davenport, Willis McGahee. WR: Wayne, Andre Johnson. TE: Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow Jr. DL: Jerome McDougle, Vince Wilfork, William Joseph. LBs: John Vilma, D.J. Williams. Saftey: Ed Reid, Sean Taylor

Then you have UM players in other years: Ray Lewis, Cortez Kenedy, Jim Kelly, Warren Sapp, Michael Irvin.

Smiling Assassin27
05-14-2010, 09:44 AM
That 2001 UM class was quite possibly the best collection of sheer talent in the last 30 years. Don't forget Bryant McKinnie. And Denver? We went for an injured, unrefined WR whose sole talent was running really fast in a straight line, then running really fast out of denver.

*mutters some cuss words about ed reed*

Killericon
05-14-2010, 11:27 AM
USC is the pipeline for players who are drafted high, UM is the pipeline for players who do well.

HEAV
05-14-2010, 11:35 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-footballfactories031609

From March 2009
Last month, USC cornerback Cary Harris leaned back in a chair at the NFL’s scouting combine in Indianapolis and craned his neck to see Rey Maualuga doing an impromptu interview. Somewhere across the room, the Trojans’ other star linebackers – Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews – were shuttling between seats, trading handshakes and smiles with NFL executives.


Four years earlier, this was exactly what Harris envisioned when he chose USC: musical chairs with the New England Patriots’ Bill Belichick and New York Giants’ Tom Coughlin. Maybe a breakfast with Bill Parcells squeezed in between. If USC is truly one of the league’s prime football factories – and it undoubtedly is – then Belichick, Coughlin and Parcells are the prime benefactors, waiting at the end of an NFL draft assembly line with arms and checkbooks wide open.


“This is what you expect,” Harris said, whirling back around after listening to Maualuga answer a few questions. In 2005, Harris was a high-school All American who could have gone to any school in the country. He settled on USC, with an eye on this February day when he’d be doing meet-and-greets with coaching royalty. “You know they have that [pipeline] to the NFL. This is where you dream of being. That’s what the goal is. [USC] has put a lot of guys there.”


To be more precise, USC has had 56 players selected in the NFL draft in the last 10 years – 13 of those going in the first round. And that number has ballooned of late, with the last three years touting an average of almost nine USC players a season getting plucked by NFL teams. It likely won’t disappoint this season, either. Twelve Trojans were invited to the combine, and at least 10 of those players are expected to be taken in the draft. Quarterback Mark Sanchez, Maualuga, Cushing and Matthews are all expected to be first-round picks, while Harris is hoping to creep into the second round.


With an eye on this moment, he clearly chose wisely. Despite many of its latest draft picks struggling to carve out stardom on the pro level, the Trojans have established themselves as one of college football’s most effective trampolines to the NFL. But they are hardly the only one.


With that in mind, here are the top 10 college football factories, and some of their raw NFL placement numbers

Rohirrim
05-14-2010, 12:12 PM
I wonder what the numbers would be if you compared HOFers from the two schools? I'm too lazy to do it myself. ;D

ColoradoDarin
05-14-2010, 01:40 PM
I was thinking it was Michigan and not Duh U before I opened it.

OK - Gamecocks v. Wolverines?

broncocalijohn
05-14-2010, 01:40 PM
USC by far but it doesnt always equate to success. Mike Williams has failed (so far as he gets another chance) as did RJ Soward for the Jags. It will always be spotlighted when your team is Top 5 and you run a NFL type offense. You will get your Palmers and Bushs but be left with underachievers.

HEAV
05-14-2010, 01:40 PM
I wonder what the numbers would be if you compared HOFers from the two schools? I'm too lazy to do it myself. ;D

Southern California (11)
Notre Dame (10)
Michigan (8)
Alabama (7)
Ohio State (7)
Syracuse (7)
Illinois (6)
Minnesota (6)
Oregon (6)
Pittsburgh (6)


http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/colleges.aspx

TexanBob
05-14-2010, 04:32 PM
USC sure got dumped on in this year's draft if you compare when their players were expected to go and when they actually were picked. Miami hasn't really been stellar at turning out pros the past few years either.

I wouldn't use Hall of Famers as a fair comparison because Miami's football program was pathetic until the 1980s. USC has been a powerhouse since the early 1960s.

Garcia Bronco
05-14-2010, 08:36 PM
That 2001 UM class was quite possibly the best collection of sheer talent in the last 30 years. Don't forget Bryant McKinnie. And Denver? We went for an injured, unrefined WR whose sole talent was running really fast in a straight line, then running really fast out of denver.

*mutters some cuss words about ed reed*

Let's not even talk about it

FADERPROOF
05-14-2010, 08:38 PM
Ohio State.

KillerBronco#76
05-15-2010, 12:23 AM
one of these things is not like the others...Illinois (6)... heres to the early 1900's with red grange, then Nitschke then Butkis. couldn't name the other 3.

Baba Booey
05-15-2010, 02:33 AM
Miami. Not really a discussion.

HAT
05-15-2010, 04:05 AM
USC has been a powerhouse since the early 1960s.

LOL Wut? This is a big time head scrattcher & one of the dumbest non-Mock posts ever......http://blogs.yorkschool.com/yorkstudents/ahunter/files/2009/12/congratulation_graphics_2.gif

PaintballCLE
05-15-2010, 04:26 AM
I think it kinda shifts around. No question Miami was in the 90's.....and USC was in the 2000s......but i think that will shift again to another school now that carrol and others are gone.

Success in college brings in the best players year after year. It kind of reminds me of MLB in a way....no sallary cap......the yankees, redsox, etc get the top tier players year after year while teams like KC, pit, etc finish at the bottom every year.

basically its the same 12 teams winning over and over

<TABLE id=Table1 border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="90%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1946
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Notre Dame
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>8-0-1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Frank Leahy
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1947
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Notre Dame
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>9-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Frank Leahy
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Michigan*
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Fritz Crisler
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1948
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Michigan
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>9-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bennie Oosterbaan
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1949
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Notre Dame
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Frank Leahy
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1950
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Oklahoma
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bud Wilkinson
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1951
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Tennessee
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bob Neyland
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1952
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Michigan State
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>9-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Biggie Munn
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1953
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Maryland
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Jim Tatum
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1954
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Ohio State
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Woody Hayes
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>UCLA (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>9-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Red Sanders
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1955
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Oklahoma
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bud Wilkinson
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1956
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Oklahoma
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bud Wilkinson
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1957
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Auburn
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Shug Jordan
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Ohio State (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>9-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Woody Hayes
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1958
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>LSU
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Paul Dietzel
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1959
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Syracuse
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Cotton
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Ben Schwartzwalder
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1960
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Minnesota
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>8-2-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Murray Warmath
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1961
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Alabama
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bear Bryant
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1962
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>USC
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>John McKay
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1963
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Texas
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Cotton
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Darrell Royal
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1964
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Alabama
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bear Bryant
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1965
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Alabama
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>9-1-1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bear Bryant
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Michigan State (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Duffy Daugherty
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1966
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Notre Dame
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>9-0-1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Ara Parseghian
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1967
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>USC
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>John McKay
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1968
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Ohio State
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Woody Hayes
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1969
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Texas
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Cotton
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Darrell Royal
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1970
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Nebraska
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bob Devaney
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Texas (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Cotton
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Darrell Royal
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1971
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Nebraska
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>13-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bob Devaney
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1972
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>USC
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>John McKay
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1973
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Notre Dame
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Ara Parseghian
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Alabama (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Lost Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bear Bryant
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1974
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Oklahoma
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>No bowl
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Barry Switzer
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>USC (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>10-1-1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>John McKay
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1975
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Oklahoma
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Barry Switzer
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1976
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Pittsburgh
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Johnny Majors
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1977
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Notre Dame
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Cotton
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Dan Devine
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1978
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Alabama
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bear Bryant
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>USC (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>John Robinson
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1979
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Alabama
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bear Bryant
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1980
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Georgia
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Vince Dooley
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1981
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Clemson
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Danny Ford
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1982
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Penn State
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Joe Paterno
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1983
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Miami (FL)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Howard Schnellenberger
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1984
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>BYU
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>13-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Holiday
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>LaVell Edwards
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1985
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Oklahoma
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Barry Switzer
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1986
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Penn State
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Fiesta
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Joe Paterno
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1987
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Miami (FL)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Jimmy Johnson
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1988
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Notre Dame
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Fiesta
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Lou Holtz
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1989
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Miami (FL)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Dennis Erickson
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1990
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Colorado
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-1-1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bill McCartney
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Georgia Tech (UPI)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>11-0-1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Citrus
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bobby Ross
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1991
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Miami (FL)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Dennis Erickson
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Washington (CNN)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Don James
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1992
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Alabama
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>13-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Gene Stallings
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1993
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Florida State
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-1-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Bobby Bowden
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1994
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Nebraska
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>13-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Tom Osborne
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1995
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Nebraska
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12-0-0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Fiesta
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Tom Osborne
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>†1996
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Florida
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12–1
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Sugar
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Steve Spurrier
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1997
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Michigan
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>12–0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Rose
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Lloyd Carr
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Nebraska (ESPN)
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>13–0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Orange
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Tom Osborne
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=69 align=left>1998
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=180 align=left>Tennessee
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=78 align=left>13–0
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 align=left>Won Fiesta
</TD><TD vAlign=top width=144 align=left>Phillip Fulmer
</TD></TR><TR><TD width=69>1999
</TD><TD width=180>Florida State
</TD><TD width=78>12-0
</TD><TD width=220>Won Sugar
</TD><TD width=144>Bobby Bowden
</TD></TR><TR><TD width=69>2000
</TD><TD width=180>Oklahoma
</TD><TD width=78>13-0
</TD><TD width=220>Won Orange
</TD><TD width=144>Bob Stoops
</TD></TR><TR><TD width=69>2001
</TD><TD width=180>Miami (FL)
</TD><TD width=78>12-0
</TD><TD width=220>Won Rose
</TD><TD width=144>Larry Coker
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2002
</TD><TD>Ohio State
</TD><TD>14-0
</TD><TD>Won Fiesta
</TD><TD>Jim Tressel
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2003
</TD><TD>LSU (BCS)
</TD><TD>13-1
</TD><TD>Won Sugar
</TD><TD>Nick Saban
</TD></TR><TR><TD>
</TD><TD>USC (AP)
</TD><TD>12-1
</TD><TD>Won Rose
</TD><TD>Pete Carroll
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2004
</TD><TD>USC
</TD><TD>13-0
</TD><TD>Won Orange
</TD><TD>Pete Carroll
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2005
</TD><TD>Texas
</TD><TD>13-0
</TD><TD>Won Rose
</TD><TD>Mack Brown
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2006**
</TD><TD>Florida defeated Ohio State
</TD><TD>41-14
</TD><TD>Won BCS National Championship Game
</TD><TD>Urban Meyer
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2007
</TD><TD>LSU defeated Ohio State
</TD><TD>38-24
</TD><TD>Won BCS National Championship Game
</TD><TD>Les Miles
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2008
</TD><TD>Florida defeated Oklahoma
</TD><TD>24-14
</TD><TD>Won BCS National Championship Game
</TD><TD>Urban Meyer
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

FADERPROOF
05-15-2010, 06:38 AM
2009 Alabama defeated Texas 24-21 Won BCS National Championship Game Nick Saban

TexanBob
05-15-2010, 03:44 PM
USC has been a powerhouse since the early 1960s.

LOL Wut? This is a big time head scrattcher & one of the dumbest non-Mock posts ever......

Then you win the EAT **** AWARD. Just scroll a up a little bit.. or look below:


1962 USC 11-0-0 Won Rose John McKay

1967 USC 10-1-0 Won Rose John McKay

1972 USC 12-0-0 Won Rose John McKay

1974 USC (UPI) 10-1-1 Won Rose John McKay

1978 USC (UPI) 12-1-0 Won Rose John Robinson

That's FIVE full or partial NCAA National Championships for USC from 1962 to 1978 when U. Miami couldn't draw flies.

HAT
05-15-2010, 04:50 PM
Then you win the EAT **** AWARD. Just scroll a up a little bit.. or look below:



That's FIVE full or partial NCAA National Championships for USC from 1962 to 1978 when U. Miami couldn't draw flies.

Right...And I'm a big-time USC fan.

The dumb portion of your post was the word since. As in:

"USC has been a powerhouse since the early 1960s."

The 90's in general & the Hackett years specifically were completely forgettable. (6 wins or less in 5 of the 10 years)

I can wear the cardinal & gold colored glasses with the best of them but stating that 90's era Trojan football was a powerhouse is ludicrous.

FADERPROOF
05-15-2010, 04:53 PM
Right...And I'm a big-time USC fan.

The dumb portion of your post was the word since. As in:

"USC has been a powerhouse since the early 1960s."

The 90's in general & the Hackett years specifically were completely forgettable. (6 wins or less in 5 of the 10 years)

I can wear the cardinal & gold colored glasses with the best of them but stating that 90's era Trojan football was a powerhouse is ludicrous.

Every team has up and down years and consecutive down years even. I wouldn't write Michigan or Tennessee off as non-powerhouses based on a few bad years.

USC had their bad years but being an established program helps big time with building the program back up, there are always exception years.