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Rohirrim
05-11-2010, 09:37 AM
This yogi claims he has not had a bite of food or a drop of water pass his lips for 70 years.
http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/10/2299480.aspx

BroncoSojia
05-11-2010, 09:39 AM
I call BS

Tombstone RJ
05-11-2010, 09:45 AM
Mind over matter.

Los Broncos
05-11-2010, 09:46 AM
Dam I haven't had any food in 7 hours.

mizzoutigers
05-11-2010, 09:47 AM
Physiologically impossible

SonOfLe-loLang
05-11-2010, 09:50 AM
Houdini!

BroncoLifer
05-11-2010, 09:50 AM
"Claims" is the key word here.

broncswin
05-11-2010, 09:50 AM
The work of TEBOW

Tombstone RJ
05-11-2010, 09:54 AM
"Claims" is the key word here.

?

PRBronco
05-11-2010, 09:55 AM
Wait, does that mean he also is claiming he hasn't made a onesie or a twosie in 70 years? When does he read magazines?

Tombstone RJ
05-11-2010, 09:57 AM
Wait, does that mean he also is claiming he hasn't made a onesie or a twosie in 70 years? When does he read magazines?

I wondered about that too. If he has not injested anything then there's no reason to go onesie or twosies.

bowtown
05-11-2010, 09:59 AM
Hey Boo Boo, I think someone's been stealing pic-a-nic baskets.

bronco militia
05-11-2010, 10:02 AM
he probably takes ambien

Beantown Bronco
05-11-2010, 10:07 AM
he probably takes ambien

:spit:LOL


Check his basement!

Rohirrim
05-11-2010, 10:10 AM
I'm guessing he gives himself chicken soup enemas.

Kaylore
05-11-2010, 10:17 AM
Its probably just a misunderstood slam on his wife's cooking.

RaiderH8r
05-11-2010, 10:54 AM
Joke's on him. Poor bastard missed out on fried cheese sticks.

baja
05-11-2010, 11:17 AM
I have a friend who has lived of sun gazing for 12 years - no food and very little water.
I was with him for 2 weeks in katmandu and he is the real deal.

mhgaffney
05-11-2010, 11:20 AM
Baja is right.

There are saints who live on sunlight. Others take in prana through pranayama.

Yogic breathing.

bowtown
05-11-2010, 11:31 AM
One time I saw a guy saw a chick in half, and then put her back together.

TheReverend
05-11-2010, 11:52 AM
I have a friend who has lived of sun gazing for 12 years - no food and very little water.
I was with him for 2 weeks in katmandu and he is the real deal.

:rofl:

TheReverend
05-11-2010, 11:54 AM
baja's "sun gazer" friend:






















http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/images/cactus_big.jpg

Cool Breeze
05-11-2010, 12:09 PM
maybe he just snorts milk

broncocalijohn
05-11-2010, 12:15 PM
Wasnt there something on intaking algie as nutrients?

Kaylore
05-11-2010, 12:17 PM
:rofl:

I know. And having his comment "validated" by Gaffney was frosting on the cake for me.

DenverBrit
05-11-2010, 12:23 PM
He's missed out on one of the great cuisines of the world. Indian food!

But 70 years without water? Can't buy into that.

Fedaykin
05-11-2010, 12:26 PM
Physics say: "no" and then proceeds to laugh its ass off. Anthropomorphic physics, yay!.

Beantown Bronco
05-11-2010, 12:29 PM
Does unicorn jizz count as "food"?

Fedaykin
05-11-2010, 12:45 PM
I have a friend who has lived of sun gazing for 12 years - no food and very little water.
I was with him for 2 weeks in katmandu and he is the real deal.

Unless your friend had the body temperature of an Oak tree and performed no energy intensive biological functions (e.g. a heart beat or brain function) then he'd need several orders of magnitude more energy than he could possibly absorb from the sun, even if he could produce usable energy from sunlight like a plant.

Was he a vampire with a greenish complexion?

DenverBrit
05-11-2010, 12:48 PM
Unless your friend had the body temperature of an Oak tree and performed no energy intensive biological functions (e.g. a heart beat or brain function) then he'd need several orders of magnitude more energy than he could possibly absorb from the sun, even if he could produce usable energy from sunlight like a plant.

Was he a vampire?

Not exactly. More like........

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/burnt_toast430x300.jpg

mr007
05-11-2010, 01:03 PM
I would say it's possible. Yogic meditation focuses on things that go beyond any physical or logical boundary.

Fedaykin
05-11-2010, 01:13 PM
I would say it's possible. Yogic meditation focuses on things that go beyond any physical or logical boundary.

Many things they do, such as controlling their heart rate, are possible. Many animals do similar things, such as bears when they hibernate. There's nothing mystical about it.

But they can't violate basic physical laws like conservation of energy. The amount of energy they require to live in the long term exceeds the amount of energy they can possibly derive from the environment without consuming foodstuffs. Bears can hibernate over the winter only because they eat and store enough fat for their hibernating bodies to persist for several months (and only several months).

Rohirrim
05-11-2010, 01:20 PM
If there is some kind of a omniscient, ominipresent, creative force in the universe, he must find it hilarious that he goes to all the trouble to create an incomprehensively miraculous universe for us to live in, and then we think the path to enlightenment is to escape from it. :rofl:

Ugly Duck
05-11-2010, 01:29 PM
I have a friend who has lived of sun gazing for 12 years - no food and very little water.
I was with him for 2 weeks in katmandu and he is the real deal.

We had one of those "real deals" here in the North Bay - called himself a breatharian. Made a lot of money as a guru teaching others to live off of air. When his wife found out that his secretary got knocked up by him, she published some photos of him buying hot dogs at a 7-11 convenience store. Lost all his disciples...

TheReverend
05-11-2010, 01:33 PM
I know. And having his comment "validated" by Gaffney was frosting on the cake for me.

Through studying ancient Sumerian tablets, I developed a new form of meditation... after a decade of practicing this method, I can now breathe underwater and fly.

You believe me, right?

Doggcow
05-11-2010, 02:02 PM
Side note - I'm about to eat a big fatty awesome steak.

ColoradoDarin
05-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Amazing how much bullsheet can be produced without eating anything....

Beantown Bronco
05-11-2010, 02:05 PM
after a decade of practicing this method, I can now breathe underwater and fly.

You believe me, right?

So, what you're saying is.....you don't need the lobster floatie any more. Better watch out. Kaylore has been fantasizing about that thing ever since you posted that pic.

Kaylore
05-11-2010, 02:20 PM
So, what you're saying is.....you don't need the lobster floatie any more. Better watch out. Kaylore has been fantasizing about that thing ever since you posted that pic.

That would suggest I wasn't fantasizing about that before.

ghwk
05-11-2010, 02:29 PM
Maybe he just doesn't call food "food". Maybe he calls food "rocks" or something. In that case you just need to ask a different question. "Have you eaten any rocks today?" "Why yes, I ate many rocks today. I am stuffed".

Then you can say "Have you seen my dog? It is missing."

epicSocialism4tw
05-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Many things they do, such as controlling their heart rate, are possible. Many animals do similar things, such as bears when they hibernate. There's nothing mystical about it.

But they can't violate basic physical laws like conservation of energy. The amount of energy they require to live in the long term exceeds the amount of energy they can possibly derive from the environment without consuming foodstuffs. Bears can hibernate over the winter only because they eat and store enough fat for their hibernating bodies to persist for several months (and only several months).

The entropy that would accumulate in his cellular systems would kill him.

UberBroncoMan
05-11-2010, 03:18 PM
Anyone who believes this story falls in line with the people who thought their souls would make it to the "space ship" following Hale-Bopp.

bronco militia
05-11-2010, 03:21 PM
http://www.artfagcity.com/wordpress_core/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/heavens-gate.jpg

UberBroncoMan
05-11-2010, 03:23 PM
http://www.artfagcity.com/wordpress_core/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/heavens-gate.jpg

Right now they're fighting Lord Xenu with their alien allies for the sake of humanity.

Circle Orange
05-11-2010, 05:58 PM
I believe it not. Fie!

ScottXray
05-11-2010, 07:57 PM
I have a friend who has lived of sun gazing for 12 years - no food and very little water.
I was with him for 2 weeks in katmandu and he is the real deal.

So is his skin green....loaded with Chlorophyl, and turns sunlight into bodily needs? but does he exhale Oxygen? And did you sleep?


If so you may have been had.

extralife
05-11-2010, 08:12 PM
During these last decades the interest in professional fasting has markedly diminished. It used to pay very well to stage such great performances under one's own management, but today that is quite impossible. We live in a different world now. At one time the whole town took a lively interest in the hunger artist; from day to day of his fast the excitement mounted; everybody wanted to see him at least once a day; there were people who bought season tickets for the last few days and sat from morning till night in front of his small barred cage; even in the nighttime there were visiting hours, when the whole effect was heightened by torch flares; on fine days the cage was set out in the open air, and then it was the children's special treat to see the hunger artist; for their elders he was often just a joke that happened to be in fashion, but the children stood openmouthed, holding each other's hands for greater security, marveling at him as he sat there pallid in black tights, with his ribs sticking out so prominently, not even on a seat but down among straw on the ground, sometimes giving a courteous nod, answering questions with a constrained smile, or perhaps stretching an arm through the bars so that one might feel how thin it was, and then again withdrawing deep into himself, paying no attention to anyone or anything, not even to the all-important striking of the clock that was the only piece of furniture in his cage, but merely staring into vacancy with half-shut eyes, now and then taking a sip from a tiny glass of water to moisten his lips.
Besides casual onlookers there were also relays of permanent watchers selected by the public, ususally butchers, strangely enough, and it was their task to watch the hunger artist day and night, three of them at a time, in case he should have some secret recourse to nourishment. This was nothing but a formality, instituted to reassure the masses, for the initiates knew well enough that during his fast the artist would never in any circumstances, not even under forcible compulsion, swallow the smallest morsel of food; the honor of his profession forbade it. Not every watcher, of course, was capable of understanding this, there were often groups of night watchers who were very lax in carrying out their duties and deliberately hudled together in a retired corner to play cards with great absorption, obviously intending to give the hunger artist the chance of a little refreshment, which they supposed he could draw from some private hoard. Nothing annoyed the artist more than such watchers; they made him miserable; they made his fast seem unendurable; sometimes he mastered his feebleness sufficiently to sing during their watch for as long as he could keep going, to show them how unjust their suspicions were. But that was of little use; they only wondered at his cleverness in being able to fill his mouth even while singing. Much more to his taste were the watchers who sat up close to the bars, who were not content with the dim night lighting of the hall but focused him in the full glare of the electric pocket torch given them by the impresario. The harsh light did not trouble him at all, in any case he could never sleep properly,and he could always drowse a little, even when the hall was thronged with noisy onlookers. He was quite happy at the prospect of spending a sleepless night with such watchers; he was ready to exchange jokes with them, to tell them stories out of his nomadic life, anything at all to keep them awake and demonstrate to them that he had no eatables in his cage and that he was fasting as not one of them could fast. But his happiest moment was when the morning came and an enormous breakfast was brought them, at his expense, on which they flung themselves wit hthe keen appetite of healthy men after a weary night of wakefulness. Of course there were people who argued that this breakfast was an unfair attempt to bribe the watchers, but that was going rather too far, and when they were invited to take on a night's vigil without a breakfast, merely for the sake of the cause, they made themselves scarce, although they stuck stubbornly to their suspicions.
Such suspicions, anyhow, were a necessary accompaniment to the profession of fasting. No one could possibly watch the hunger artist continuosly, day and night, and so no one could produce first-hand evidence that the fast had really been rigorous and continuous; only the artist himself could know that, he was therefore bound to be the sole completely satisfied spectator of his own fast. Yet for other reasons he was never satisfied; it was not perhaps mere fasting that had brought him to such skeleton thinness that many people had regretfully to keep away from his exhibitions, because the sight of him was too much for them, perhaps it was dissatisfaction with himself that had worn him down. For he alone knew, what no other initiate knew, how easy it was to fast. It was the easiest thing in the world. He made no secret of this, yet people did not believe him. At the best they set him down as modest, most of them, however, thought he was out for publicity or else he was some kind of cheat who found it easy to fast because he had discovered a way of making it easy, and then had the impudence to admit the fact, more or less. He had to put up with all that, and in the course of time had got used to it, but his inner dissatisfaction always rankled, and never yet, after any term of fasting--this must be granted to his credit--had he left the cage of his own free will. The longest period of fasting was fixed by his impresario at forty days, beyond that term he was not allowed to go, not even in great cities, and there was good reason for it, too. Experience had proved that for about forty days the interest of the public could be stimulated by a steadily increasing pressure of advertisment, but after that the town began to lose interest, sympathetic support began notably to fall off, there were of course local variations as between one town and another, but as a general rule forty days marked the limit. So on the fortieth day the flower-bedecked cage was opened, enthusiastic spectators filled the hall, a military band played, two doctors entered the cage to measure the results of the fast, which were announced through a megaphone, and finally two young ladies appeared, blissful at having been selected for the honor, to help the hunger artist down the few steps leading to a small table on which was spread a carefully chosen invalid repast. And at this very moment the artist always turned stubborn. True, he would entrust his bony arms to the outstretched helping hands of the ladies bending over him, but stand up he would not. Why stop fasting at this particular moment, after forty days of it? He had held out for a long time, an illimitably long time; why stop now, when he was in his best fasting form, or rather, not yet quite in his best fasting form? Why should he be cheated of the fame he would get for fasting longer, for being not only the record hunger artist of all time, which presumably he was already, but for beating his own record by a performance beyond human imagination, since he felt that there were no limits to his capacity for fasting? His public pretended to admire him so much, why should it have so little patience with him; if he could endure fasting longer, why shouldn't the public endure it? Besides, he was tired, and now he was supposed to lift himself to his full height and go down to a meal the very thought of which gave him a nausea that only the presence of the ladies kept him from betraying, and even that with an effort. And he looked up into the eyes of the ladies who were apparently so friendly and in reality so cruel, and shook his head, which felt too heavy on its strengthless neck. But then there happened yet again what always happened. The impresario came forward, without a word--for the band made speech impossible--lifted his arms in the air above the artist, as if inviting Heaven to look down upon its creature here in the straw, this suffering martyr, which indeed he was, although in quite another sense; grasped him around the emaciated waist, with exaggerated caution, so that the frail condition he was in might be appreciated; and committed him to the care of the blenching ladies, not without secretly giving him a shaking so that his legs and body tottered and swayed. The artist now submitted completely; his head lolled on his breast as if it had landed there by chance; his body was hollowed out; his legs in a spasm of self-preservation clung to each other at the knees, yet scraped on the ground as if it were not really solid ground, as if they were only trying to find solid ground; and the whole weight of his body, a featherweight after all, relapsed onto one of the ladies, who looking round for help and panting a little--this post of honor was not at all what she expected it to be--first stretched her neck as far as she could to keep her face at least free from contact with the artist, then finding this impossible, and her more fortunate companion not coming to her aid, but merely holding extended on her own trembling hand the little bunch of knucklebones that was the artist's, to the great delight of the spectators burst into tears and had to be replaced by an attendant who had long been stationed in readiness. Then came the food, a little of which the impresario managed to get between the artist's lips, while he sat in a kind of half-fainting trance, to the accompaniment of cheerful patter designed to distract the public's attention from the artist's condition; after that, a toast was drunk to the public, supposedly prompted by a whisper from the artist in the impresario's ear; the band confirmed it with a mighty flourish, the spectators melted away, and no one had any cause to be dissatisfied with the proceedings, no one except the hunger artist himself, he only, as always.
So he lived for many years, with small regular intervals of recuperation, in visible glory, honored by all the world, yet in spite of that troubled in spirit, and all the more troubled because no one would take his trouble seriously. What comfort could he posibly need? What more could he possibly wish for? And if some good-natured person, feeling sorry for him, tried to console him by pointing out that his melancholy was probably caused by fasting, it could happen, especially when he had been fasting for some time, that he reacted with an outburst of fury and to the general alarm began to shake the bars of the cage like a wild animal. Yet the impresario had a way of punishing these outbreaks which he rather enjoyed putting into operation. He would apologize publicly for the artist's behavior, which was only to be excused, he admitted, because of the irritability caused by fasting; a condition hardly to be understood by well-fed people; then by natural transition he went on to mention the artist's equally incomprehensible boast that he could fast for much longer than he was doing; he praised the high ambition, the good will, the great self-denial undoubtedly implicit in such a statement; and then quite simply countered it by bringing out photographs, which were also on sale to the public, showing the artist on the fortieth day of a fast lying in bed almost dead from exhaustion. This perversion of the truth, familiar to the artist though it was, always unnerved him afresh and proved too much for him. What was a consequence of the premature ending of his fast was here presented as the cause of it! To fight against this lack of understanding, against a whole world of non-understanding, was impossible. Time and time again in good faith he stood by the bars listening to the impresario, but as soon as the photographs appeared he always let go and sank with a groan back on to his straw, and the reassured public could once more come close and gaze at him.
A few years later when the witnesses of such scenes called them to mind, they often failed to understand themselves at all. For meanwhile the aforementioned chance in public interest had set in; it seemed to happen almost overnight; there may have been profound causes for it, but who was going to bother about that; at any rate the pampered hunger artist suddenly found himself deserted one fine day by the amusement seekers, who went streaming past him to other more favored attractions. For the last time the impresario hurried him over half Europe to discover whether the old interest might still survive here and there; all in vain; everywhere, as if by secret agreement, a positive revulsion from professional fasting was in evidence. Of course it could not really have sprung up so suddenly as all that, and many premonitory symptoms which had not been sufficiently remarked or suppressed during the rush and glitter of success now came retrospectively to mind, but it was now too late to take any countermeasures. Fasting would surely come into fashion again at some future date, yet that was no comfort for those living in the present. What, then, was the hunger artist to do? He had been applauded by thousands in his time and could hardly come down to showing himself in a street booth at village fairs, and as for adopting another profession, he was not only too old for that but too fanatically devoted to fasting. So he took leave of the impresario, his partner in an unparalleled career, and hired himself to a large circus; in order to spare his own feelings he avoided reading the conditions of his contract.
A large circus with its enormous traffic in replacing and recruiting men, animals and apparatus can always find a use for people at any time, even for a hunger artist, provided of course that he does not ask too much., and in this particular case anyhow it was not only the artist who was taken on but his famous and long-known name as well, indeed considering the peculiar nature of his performance, which was not imparired by advancing age, it could not be objected that here was an artist past his prime, no longer at the height of his professional skill, seking a refuge in some quiet corner of a circus, on the contrary, the hunger artist averred that he could fast as well as ever, which was entirely credible, he even alleged that if he were allowed to fast as he liked, and this was at once promised him without more ado, he could astound the world by establishing a record never yet achieved, a statement which certainly provoked a smile among the other professionals, since it was left out of account the change in public opinion, which the hunger artist in his zeal conveniently forgot.

extralife
05-11-2010, 08:13 PM
He had not, however, actually lost his sense of the real situation and took it as a matter of course that he and his cage should be stationed, not in the middle of the ring as a main attraction, but outside, near the animal cages, on a site that was after all easily accessible. Large and gaily painted placards made a frame for the cage and announced what was to be seen inside it. When the public came thronging out in the intervals to see the animals, they could harly avoid passing the hunger artist's cage and stopping there a moment, perhaps they might even have stayed longer had not those pressing behind them in the narrow gangway, who did not understand why they should be held up on their way towards the excitements of the menagerie, made it impossible for anyone to stand gazing quietly for any length of time. And that was the reason why the hunger artist, who had of course been looking forward to these visiting hours as the main achievement of his life, began instead to shrink from them. At first he could hardly wait for the intervals; it was exhilirating to watch the crowds come streaming his way, until only too soon--not even the most obstinante self-deception, clung to almost consciously, could hold out against the fact--the conviction was borne in upon him that these people, most of them, to judge from their actions, again and again, without exception, were all on their way to the menagerie. And the first sight of them from the distance remained the best. For when they reached his cage he was at once deafened by the storm of shouting and abuse that arose from the two contending factions, which renewed themselves continuously, of those who wanted to stop and stare at him--he soon began to dislike them more than the others--not out of real interest but only out of obstinante self-assertiveness, and those who wanted to go straight on to the animals. When the first great rush was past, the stragglers came along, and these, whom nothing could have prevented from stopping to look at him as long as they had breath, raced past with long strides, hardly even glancing at him, in their haste to get to the menagerie in time. And all too rarely did it happen that he had a stroke of luck, when some father of a family fetched up before him with his children, pointed a finger at the hunger artist and explained at length what the phenomenon meant, telling storied of earlier years when he himself had watched similar but much more thrilling performances, and the children, still rather uncomprehending, since neither inside nor outside shcool had they been sufficiently prepared for this lesson--what did they care about fasting?--yet showed by the brightnes of their intent eyes that new and better times might be coming. Perhaps, said the hunger artist to himself many a time, things could be a little better if his cage were set not quite so near the menagerie. That made it too easy for people to make their choice, to say nothing of what he suffered from the stench of the menagerie, the animals' restlessness by night, the carrying past of raw lumps of flesh for the beasts of prey, the roaring at feeding times, which depressed him continuously. But he did not dare to lodge a complaint with the management; after all, he had the animals to thank for the troops of people who passed his cage, among whom there might always be one here and there to take an interest in him, and who could tell where they might seclude him if he called attention to his existence and thereby to the fact that, strictly speaking, he was only an impediment on the wat to the menagerie.
A small impediment, to be sure, one that grew steadily less. People grew familiar with the strange idea that they could be expected, in times like these, to take an interest in a hunger artist, and with this familiarity the verdict went out against him. He might fast as much as he could, and he did so; but nothing could save him now, people passed him by. Just try to explain to anyone the art of fasting! Anyone who has no feeling for it cannot be made to understand it. The fine placards grew dirty and illegible, they were torn down; the little notice board telling the number of fast days achieved, which at first was changed carefully every day, had long stayed at the same figure, for after the first few weeks even this small task seemed pointless to the staff; and so the artist simply fasted on and on, as he had once dreamed of doing, and it was no trouble to him, just as he had always foretold, but no one counted the days, not one, not even the artist himself, knew what records he was already breaking, and his heart grew heavy. And when once in a time some leisurely passer-by stopped, made merry over the old figure on the board and spoke of swindling, that was in its way the stupidest lie ever invented by indifference and inborn malice, since it was not the hunger artist who was cheating, he was working honestly, but the world who was cheating him of his reward.

Many more days went by, however, and that too came to an end. An overseer's eye fell on the cage one day and he asked the attendants why this perfectly good cage should be left standing there unused with dirty straw inside it; nobody knew, until one man, helped out by the notice board, remembered about the hunger artist. They poked into the straw with sticks and found him in it. "Are you still fasting?" asked the overseer, "when on earth do you mean to stop?" "Forgive me, everybody," whispered the hunger artist, only the overseer, who had his ear to the bars, understood him. "Of course," said the overseer, and tapped his forehead with a finger to let the attendants know what state the man was in, "we forgive you." "I always wanted you to admire my fasting," said the hunger artist. "We do admire it," said the overseer, affably. "But you shouldn't admire it," said the hunger artist. "Well then we don't admire it," said the overseer, "but why shouldn't we admire it?" "Because I have to fast, I can't help it," said the hunger artist. "What a fellow you are," said the overseer, "and why can't you help it?" "Because," said the hunger artist, lifting his head a little and speaking, with his lips pursed, as if for a kiss, right into the overseer's ear, so that no syllable might be lost, "because I couldn't find the food I liked. If I had found it, believe me, I should have made no fuss and stuffed myself like you or anyone else." These were his last words, but in his dimming eyes remained the firm though no longer proud persuasion that he was continuing to fast.
"Well, clear this out now!" said the overseer, and they buried the hunger artist, straw and all. Into the cage they put a young panther. Even the most insensitive felt it refreshing to see this wild creature leaping around the cage that had so long been dreary. The panther was all right. The food he liked was brought him without hesitation by the attendants; he seemed not even to miss his freedom; his noble body, furnished almost to the bursting point with all that it needed, seemed to carry freedom around with it too; somewhere in his jaws it seemed to lurk; and the joy of life streamed with such ardent passion from his throat that for the onlookers it was not easy to stand the shock of it. But they braced themselves, crowded round the cage, and did not want ever to move away.

extralife
05-11-2010, 08:13 PM
I knew I'd finally put all that literary knowledge to good use

baja
05-11-2010, 08:15 PM
:rofl:

It amazes me what confidence ignorance brings.

Nothing quite a pathetic as a 'know-it-all' fool.

It's the stock that the George Bushs come from.

baja
05-11-2010, 08:21 PM
My friends web site
http://www.sunyoga.info/

baja
05-11-2010, 08:27 PM
I watched the guy do the Mt. Kalish pilgrimage barefoot and clothed in light clothing while the rest of us were completely bundled up because it was damn cold. You can't fake that for three days.

baja
05-11-2010, 08:29 PM
http://www.lifepositive.com/Spirit/Sun_Yoga/Sun_Yogi52004.asp

broncogary
05-11-2010, 08:34 PM
This yogi claims he has not had a bite of food or a drop of water pass his lips for 70 years.
http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/10/2299480.aspx

Big deal. I once went over five months without farting. True story.

DenverBrit
05-11-2010, 08:44 PM
Big deal. I once went over five months without farting. True story.

The Yogi's story is more believable. Ha!

mhgaffney
05-11-2010, 08:50 PM
Baja's friend is not the only case.

Check out Parahansa Yogananda's AUTHOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI for another example of this kind of practice. Yogananda's book is a classic. It's one of the most important spiritual biographies in print.

SportinOne
05-12-2010, 02:11 AM
tits, beer, "common sense," and cynicism...

a dark age is approaching.

sisterhellfyre
05-12-2010, 02:31 AM
Check out Parahansa Yogananda's AUTHOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI for another example of this kind of practice. Yogananda's book is a classic. It's one of the most important spiritual biographies in print.

I'm just waiting for the reports from the scientists in India. :-) Should be an interesting read whatever they find.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 06:03 AM
ITT: Some gullible people skirting the line of mental retardation.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 06:05 AM
It amazes me what confidence ignorance brings.

Nothing quite a pathetic as a 'know-it-all' fool.

It's the stock that the George Bushs come from.

Oh absolutely. I'm extremely ignorant.

Meanwhile, you're a 60+ year old man still believing in fairy tales.

Yup, I think you got your perception straight. Ha!

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 06:28 AM
I have a yogi friend that can breathe fire, levitate, stretch his limbs in inhuman fashion and teleport:















































http://www.jovanet.com/~jedi/vg/capcom/sf/graphics/sat3.jpg

chadta
05-12-2010, 06:57 AM
I knew I'd finally put all that literary knowledge to good use

its a shame nobody is going to read it

worm
05-12-2010, 07:56 AM
I need to get myself a Yogi friend. Preferably one that doubles as a kickass bartender.

Rohirrim
05-12-2010, 08:27 AM
I'm hungry.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 08:41 AM
Realistically, this guy is full of **** and trying to get attention after a failed life of meditation and isolation.

But let's pretend he's for real.

Option 1:
Spend your life in a solitary state reflecting on the universe. Potential reward is starving yourself and living off magical energy and a higher state of awareness.

Option 2:
Enjoy life. Potential reward is

mod note: pic is NSFW
http://i.imgur.com/6HEOO.jpg



What to do... what to do...

Requiem
05-12-2010, 08:43 AM
Do both, jerk.

Rohirrim
05-12-2010, 09:04 AM
Are you looking for me? I am in the next seat.
My shoulder is against yours.
you will not find me in the stupas, not in Indian shrine
rooms, nor in synagogues, nor in cathedrals:
not in masses, nor kirtans, not in legs winding
around your own neck, nor in eating nothing but
vegetables.

When you really look for me, you will see me
instantly --
you will find me in the tiniest house of time.

Kabir says: Student, tell me, what is God?
He is the breath inside the breath.

baja
05-12-2010, 09:28 AM
I have a yogi friend that can breathe fire, levitate, stretch his limbs in inhuman fashion and teleport:

In this book, Kuhn argued that science does not progress via a linear accumulation of new knowledge, but undergoes periodic revolutions, also called “paradigm shifts” (although he did not coin the phrase), in which the nature of scientific inquiry within a particular field is abruptly transformed. In general, science is broken up into three distinct stages. Prescience, which lacks a central paradigm, comes first. This is followed by “normal science“, when scientists attempt to enlarge the central paradigm by “puzzle-solving”. Thus, the failure of a result to conform to the paradigm is seen not as refuting the paradigm, but as the mistake of the researcher, contra Popper’s refutability criterion. As anomalous results build up, science reaches a crisis, at which point a new paradigm, which subsumes the old results along with the anomalous results into one framework, is accepted. This is termed revolutionary science.

As stated, Kuhn revealed the limitations of Popperian falsification theory by showing the way in which science exists in a scientific worldview or cultural space. This intrinsic worldview element to science, however, does not mean there are no better or worse theories than others, that none give us scientific objective insights. It simply means there is no myth of the given but rather contextualized truth worlds–which generally build upon key insights of earlier worlds.

Because of the adherence to a scientific frame, various scientists observe and seek out evidence confirming the already existing overarching theories. They form hypotheses influenced (if not directly deduced from) said dominant overarching theory (or paradigm cum worldview). The data that emerges via such experiments and observations is data (under almost all circumstances) that makes sense within the dominant paradigm.

Sometimes, however, data will emerge (via a more sophisticated technology perhaps or by sheer luck/accident, etc.) that will reveal new data which disconfirms the dominant scientific narrative. Here is where Kuhn adds an element missing in Popper–in Popper such data intrinsically falsifies the current paradigm. However Kuhn showed historically this was not necessarily the case and it required scientists to open creatively to new framework and thought. To allow themselves to think thoughts (or be thought by thoughts you might say) not arising within the current frame.

Take the move to quantum physics, a (uh-oh there’s the word) paradigmatic example of a scientific revolution.

What would become quantum physics grew originally out of Max Planck’s work on black box radiation experiments. The black box problem studied by earlier scientists had not received an adequate explanatory hypothesis which could predict the known/received data. Eventually Plank’s (correct) solution to the problem undermined the absolute truth of the current reigning physics paradigm. Into that (pun not intended) vacuum came quantum theories.

Or take Einstein and his two theories of relativity (special and general). In both Einstein had to conduct “thought-experiments” (gedankenexperiments) which were in a very real sense experiments of the mind. These thought experiments allowed Einstein to think outside the dominant framework of his day. In special relativity, it involved imagining himself traveling in a train moving at the speed of light. Light was imagined as a beam parallel to his train (which he could see out the window). He then asked, “what would happen to time in this scenario?” In general relativity he imagined himself free-falling in an elevator and asking what would be occurring gravitationally in such a moment?

Read on smug one.

http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2010/03/the-structure-of-the-kuhnian-revolution/

baja
05-12-2010, 09:29 AM
Are you looking for me? I am in the next seat.
My shoulder is against yours.
you will not find me in the stupas, not in Indian shrine
rooms, nor in synagogues, nor in cathedrals:
not in masses, nor kirtans, not in legs winding
around your own neck, nor in eating nothing but
vegetables.

When you really look for me, you will see me
instantly --
you will find me in the tiniest house of time.

<b>Kabir says: Student, tell me, what is God?
He is the breath inside the breath.
You haver never posted truer words!!!

Requiem
05-12-2010, 09:34 AM
He is the smell in the breath before the fart of man.

Tombstone RJ
05-12-2010, 09:40 AM
Wow. :thumbs:

how can you not be attacked to her?

Beantown Bronco
05-12-2010, 09:42 AM
how can you not be attacked to her?

:spit:

The Mane now promotes violence against women?!?

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 09:43 AM
http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2010/03/the-structure-of-the-kuhnian-revolution/

http://imgur.com/VW5jo.jpg

I read the article and struggle to see your point. The only thing I can imagine being relative to the topic and your stance is the quote "that there not be any sense in which we can say that modern science puts us closer to the truth than Aristotelian and Ptolemaic science".

But if you read the rest of the article, the BLOGGER then goes on to say this interpretation was a mistake due to readers definition of paradigm and what he really meant was something different.

So why don't you use your words and try to explain yourself how you think this lunacy could possibly be a reality.

OR do you want me to do it for you based on this article? Just roll with this:

What it means is that it's entirely possible that one day in the future we'll discover another dimension and another element to this dimension that makes this form of meditative sustenance possible, but it's beyond our current scientific comprehension.

You're welcome baja.

But it's still wrong.

DenverBrit
05-12-2010, 09:43 AM
Wow. :thumbs:

how can you not be attacked to her?

Interesting comment. Freud would have a field day. ;D

baja
05-12-2010, 09:48 AM
http://imgur.com/VW5jo.jpg

I read the article and struggle to see your point. The only thing I can imagine being relative to the topic and your stance is the quote "that there not be any sense in which we can say that modern science puts us closer to the truth than Aristotelian and Ptolemaic science".

But if you read the rest of the article, the BLOGGER then goes on to say this interpretation was a mistake due to readers definition of paradigm and what he really meant was something different.

So why don't you use your words and try to explain yourself how you think this lunacy could possibly be a reality.

OR do you want me to do it for you based on this article? Just roll with this:



You're welcome baja.

But it's still wrong.

I have seen with my own eyes what sun yogi can do that you do not believe possible so guess we will have to leave it at that.

Tombstone RJ
05-12-2010, 09:52 AM
Interesting comment. Freud would have a field day. ;D

Si

baja
05-12-2010, 09:57 AM
..All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

baja
05-12-2010, 09:59 AM
Weird science versus revolutionary science

While it's true that at least 99% of revolutionary announcements from the fringes of science are just as bogus as they seem, we cannot dismiss every one of them without investigation. If we do, then we'll certainly take our place among the ranks of scoffers who accidentally helped delay numbers of major scientific discoveries throughout history. Beware, for many discoveries such as powered flight and drifting continents today only appear sane and acceptable because we have such powerful hindsight. These same advancements were seen as obviously a bunch of disgusting lunatic garbage during the years they were first discovered.
In science, pursuing revolutionary advancements can be like searching for diamonds hidden in sewage. It's a shame that the realms of questionable ideas contain "diamonds" of great value. This makes the judging crazy theories far more difficult. If crazy discoveries were always bogus, then we'd have good reason to reject them without investigation. However, since the diamonds exist, we must distrust our first impressions. Sometimes the "obvious" craziness turns out to be a genuine cutting-edge discovery. As with the little child questioning the emperor's clothing, sometimes the entire scientific community is misguided and incompetent. Sometimes only the lone voice of the maverick scientist is telling the truth.

Below is a list of scientists who were reviled for their crackpottery, only to be later proven correct. Today's science texts are dishonest to the extent that they hide these huge mistakes made by the scientific community. They rarely discuss the acts of intellectual suppression which were directed at the following researchers by their colleagues. And... after wide reading, I've never encountered any similar list.[1] This is very telling.

http://amasci.com/weird/vindac.html

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 10:02 AM
I have seen with my own eyes what sun yogi can do that you do not believe possible so guess we will have to leave it at that.

You're aware that this isn't the first guy to make this claim right? Nor the first one to undergo medical scrutiny and try to validate his claim?

Spoiler: They all are disproved or die trying.

Meck77
05-12-2010, 10:06 AM
Rev before you go too far down this path I'd like to remind you that you are talking to a guy who thinks living in America is foolish and that hiding in the sand in Baja mexico is the only way to survive "What's coming".

baja
05-12-2010, 10:10 AM
Doctors confirm Indian man Lives on Sunlight and Water!

It has been widely reported that studies have confirmed a 62 yr Indian man while being observed in a hospital 24 hours a day for 120 days maintained a normal level of activity by only consuming Water and Gazing at the Sun!
Doctors from his native India as well as Scientists from Penn State and Thomas Jeferson University in the USA have independently verified this phenomenon and named it the (HRM) effect after the mans name Hira Ratan Manek.
Manek a mechanical engineer who refers to the human brain as a ”super computer” and the eyes as a ”keyboard” says that “Solar energy absorbed through the eyes eliminates mental illness, physical illness, spiritual ignorance, and makes life happy and peaceful.” He explains sungazing is best done barefoot on dirt and that the most important safeguard is “the sun should Only be viewed in the last hour of sunset or the first hour of sunrise.” It is at those times that the sun is emitting virtually no harmful ultra violet rays” (meaning UV index of 0-2)Manek reportedly hasn’t eaten solid food since 1995 but on occasion will drink buttermilk or have tea while entertaining guests.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Hira_Ratan_Manek_sungazer.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/x-17720-Manhattan-Environmental-News-Examiner~y2009m7d27-Doctors-confirm-an-Indian-man-Lives-on-Sunlight-and-Water

I have met this guy and truthfully I was somewhat skeptical of him after your conversation but my friend Sun Yogi I have so such doubts.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 10:14 AM
Doctors confirm Indian man Lives on Sunlight and Water!

It has been widely reported that studies have confirmed a 62 yr Indian man while being observed in a hospital 24 hours a day for 120 days maintained a normal level of activity by only consuming Water and Gazing at the Sun!
Doctors from his native India as well as Scientists from Penn State and Thomas Jeferson University in the USA have independently verified this phenomenon and named it the (HRM) effect after the mans name Hira Ratan Manek.
Manek a mechanical engineer who refers to the human brain as a ”super computer” and the eyes as a ”keyboard” says that “Solar energy absorbed through the eyes eliminates mental illness, physical illness, spiritual ignorance, and makes life happy and peaceful.” He explains sungazing is best done barefoot on dirt and that the most important safeguard is “the sun should Only be viewed in the last hour of sunset or the first hour of sunrise.” It is at those times that the sun is emitting virtually no harmful ultra violet rays” (meaning UV index of 0-2)Manek reportedly hasn’t eaten solid food since 1995 but on occasion will drink buttermilk or have tea while entertaining guests.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Hira_Ratan_Manek_sungazer.jpg

http://www.examiner.com/x-17720-Manhattan-Environmental-News-Examiner~y2009m7d27-Doctors-confirm-an-Indian-man-Lives-on-Sunlight-and-Water

I have met this guy and truthfully I was somewhat skeptical of him after your conversation but my friend Sun Yogi I have so such doubts.

^^
False

"The third study lasted 130 days in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania at Thomas Jefferson University and University of Pennsylvania under the direction of Dr. Andrew Newberg and Dr. George Brenard. However, contact with Dr. Andrew Newberg has revealed that Hira only stayed at University of Pennsylvania for brain scans on studies of meditation, not his ability to fast indefinitely.Dr. Andrew Newberg had denied ever undertaking the 130 day study"

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 10:15 AM
Rev before you go too far down this path I'd like to remind you that you are talking to a guy who thinks living in America is foolish and that hiding in the sand in Baja mexico is the only way to survive "What's coming".

I know.

I'm truly undecided which one of the following baja is:

1) The greatest Orangemane forum troll of all time.

2) Really this naive

baja
05-12-2010, 10:17 AM
Rev before you go to far down this path I'd like to remind you that you are talking to a guy who thinks living in America is foolish and that hiding in the sand in Baja mexico is the only way to survive "What's coming".

You are a broken record of wrong captain Fail.

I am in the San Diego airport as I type and have been in MY wonderful but at risk country for 3 weeks.

Many will survive and it will not be where you are but your ability to accept the quickening of vibration that ushers in the quantum leap known as the 5th Dimension .

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13070896/


You won't make it Meck is my bet. Can I have your bus?

baja
05-12-2010, 10:19 AM
^^
False

"The third study lasted 130 days in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania at Thomas Jefferson University and University of Pennsylvania under the direction of Dr. Andrew Newberg and Dr. George Brenard. However, contact with Dr. Andrew Newberg has revealed that Hira only stayed at University of Pennsylvania for brain scans on studies of meditation, not his ability to fast indefinitely.Dr. Andrew Newberg had denied ever undertaking the 130 day study"

Like I said I have my doubts about the guy.

baja
05-12-2010, 10:20 AM
I know.

I'm truly undecided which one of the following baja is:

1) The greatest Orangemane forum troll of all time.

2) Really this naive

Quote:
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Tombstone RJ
05-12-2010, 10:22 AM
Living on sunlight AND water (with occassional buttermilk and tea) is much different than living on just air and sunlight as the first yogi claims.

baja
05-12-2010, 10:24 AM
Living on sunlight AND water (with occassional buttermilk and tea) is much different than living on just air and sunlight as the first yogi claims.

True.

I really do not have an opinion about the OP's validity but I know my friend Sun Yogi is ligit.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 10:25 AM
Like I said I have my doubts about the guy.

So cite a real example. Not your "friend" either. And for that matter, did you observe him 24/7 for multiple weeks on end?

Quote:
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

So this "truth" has just been ridiculed for millennia? Never mind that this claim has gone without one single shred of evidence in a world we could easily monitor and validate such an absurd claim.

Cute quote though. Mostly true. Does not apply here.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 10:26 AM
True.

I really do not have an opinion about the OP's validity but I know my friend Sun Yogi is ligit.

Go ahead. Go into detail on this experience and how you know he's "ligit" (with an "e", btw)

Tombstone RJ
05-12-2010, 10:27 AM
Quote:
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Jesus knows this better than anyone else. It's funny that you are talking about scientific truth and then comparing it to spiritual truth. I don't believe the two are diametrically opposed. We are talking about the ghost in the machine...

bowtown
05-12-2010, 10:29 AM
Quote:
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

All bull**** passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Second it is violently opposed. Third, it is disproved and the person who fell for it in the first place looks like an idiot.

All depends on that third step. Just becasue something is ridiculed and opposed, does not make it truth.

baja
05-12-2010, 10:30 AM
Go ahead. Go into detail on this experience and how you know he's "ligit" (with an "e", btw)

About to board a plane so ta ta.

You are going to have to find another opportunity to show the rest of the board how smart you are..

I really don't care if you believe in the possibility or not.

bowtown
05-12-2010, 10:32 AM
I heard airplanes don't need fuel to fly.

Requiem
05-12-2010, 10:32 AM
He will write you another book.

Kaylore
05-12-2010, 10:33 AM
Like I said I have my doubts about the guy.

You mean doubts about the Dr., no doubt.

baja
05-12-2010, 10:35 AM
You mean doubts about the Dr., no doubt.


No the claims of Yogi

I smelled peanut butter on his breath. ;D

Wish me a good flight....

Kaylore
05-12-2010, 10:36 AM
Many will survive and it will not be where you are but your ability to accept the quickening of vibration that ushers in the quantum leap known as the 5th Dimension .
<img src="http://www.orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=15709&stc=1&d=1147936819">

Requiem
05-12-2010, 10:36 AM
Murder he wrote, I hope an assassin renames my skills.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 10:47 AM
About to board a plane so ta ta.

You are going to have to find another opportunity to show the rest of the board how smart you are..

I really don't care if you believe in the possibility or not.

Clearly you do as you spent a chunk of the morning scrambling for semblance of explanation and examples behind this fraud.

Here's an accurate translation of this post:

I'm gullible and I have absolutely no supporting evidence or even semi-viable first hand anecdotal experience.

Meck77
05-12-2010, 11:18 AM
You are a broken record of wrong captain Fail.

I am in the San Diego airport as I type and have been in MY wonderful but at risk country for 3 weeks.

Many will survive and it will not be where you are but your ability to accept the quickening of vibration that ushers in the quantum leap known as the 5th Dimension .

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13070896/


You won't make it Meck is my bet. Can I have your bus?

Wow so now you have the ability to predict when I'm going to die? Sorry old paranoid man. I'm 35 years old. My guess is you are in your mid 60's. Odds are on my side. :sunshine:

It's ironic that you just said this in this thread. "You are going to have to find another opportunity to show the rest of the board how smart you are."

baja
05-12-2010, 03:15 PM
Clearly you do as you spent a chunk of the morning scrambling for semblance of explanation and examples behind this fraud.

Here's an accurate translation of this post:

Hey I offered my opinion after spending two weeks with Sun Yogi and you do not except it. So stay in your little narrow world it's OK with me.

Liked I have said tout your ignorance with someone else.

Called the FBI lately genius? ;D

baja
05-12-2010, 03:17 PM
Wow so now you have the ability to predict when I'm going to die? Sorry old paranoid man. I'm 35 years old. My guess is you are in your mid 60's. Odds are on my side. :sunshine:

It's ironic that you just said this in this thread. "You are going to have to find another opportunity to show the rest of the board how smart you are."

You are just no fun, at least Rev. can comprehend what is posted, you can't.

Lucky for you that you were born rich.

extralife
05-12-2010, 03:23 PM
its a shame nobody is going to read it

Don't worry, I long ago figured out that no one in America will read anything over 140 characters long unless Oprah or the movie theatre tells them to.

baja
05-12-2010, 03:26 PM
Don't worry, I long ago figured out that no one in America will read anything over 140 characters long unless Oprah or the movie theatre tells them to.

ain't that the truth...

You can tell one's views by where the get their news.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 03:47 PM
Hey I offered my opinion after spending two weeks with Sun Yogi and you do not except it. So stay in your little narrow world it's OK with me.

Liked I have said tout your ignorance with someone else.

Called the FBI lately genius? ;D

1. So why not share the basis of forming this opinion by telling us about your experience with the "Sun Yogi"?

2. Why would I call the FBI?

jhat01
05-12-2010, 03:50 PM
1. So why not share the basis of forming this opinion by telling us about your experience with the "Sun Yogi"?

2. Why would I call the FBI?

Because getting colonic irrigation from an Indian dude with a smelly beard isn't good reading.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 04:04 PM
Because getting colonic irrigation from an Indian dude with a smelly beard isn't good reading.

I lol'd, but I'm still serious about the question.

Seriously, if he had some compelling proof, we'd all want to read it. People would LOVE to see something like become a reality. It'd be reinforcement to there being more to life than what's currently in front of us. Evidence to spirituality. Borderline superhero. All things people love.

Sadly, I think the reality is baja's completely let this desire for something more overcome his reality.

I genuinely hope he posts something to prove me wrong.

baja
05-12-2010, 04:06 PM
1. So why not share the basis of forming this opinion by telling us about your experience with the "Sun Yogi"?

2. Why would I call the FBI?

OK

I spent 2 weeks with him and recognized him as a holy man whom I believe would not lie about such a thing. He walks the world bring his message of peace and love. He has devoted his life to teaching others the practice of sun gazing. Clearly it is a judgement call on my part, believe what you chose.

I did watch him walk bare foot in sub freezing temperatures in ice and snow for three days, something a average person would be unable to do. Sometimes you meet a person you believe is beyond reproach.

I even gave him my Maui Jim's so he could fast if he wanted.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 04:17 PM
OK

I spent 2 weeks with him and recognized him as a holy man whom I believe would not lie about such a thing. He walks the world bring his message of peace and love. He has devoted his life to teaching others the practice of sun gazing. Clearly it is a judgement call on my part, believe what you chose.

I did watch him walk bare foot in sub freezing temperatures in ice and snow for three days, something a average person would be unable to do. Sometimes you meet a person you believe is beyond reproach.

I even gave him my Maui Jim's so he could fast if he wanted.

I'm personally underwhelmed, but to each their own. For future reference you should say "I believe him to be the real deal" instead.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 04:19 PM
For example.

I saw Tebow finish a season on a broken leg and broken wrist. He walks the world bring his message of peace and love. He has devoted his life to teaching others the practice of Christianity.

That doesn't mean he did it through anything other than human resilience.

Oh... and he eats food.

Like everyone else.

BMF Bronco
05-12-2010, 05:10 PM
OK

I spent 2 weeks with him and recognized him as a holy man whom I believe would not lie about such a thing. He walks the world bring his message of peace and love. He has devoted his life to teaching others the practice of sun gazing. Clearly it is a judgement call on my part, believe what you chose.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

These 900 folks "believed" he was a holy man as well. How'd that turn out for them?

baja
05-12-2010, 05:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

These 900 folks "believed" he was a holy man as well. How'd that turn out for them?

I would appear not too well.

I am just sharing a personal experience that happens to relate to the OP.I am not asking any of you to believe me. In fact it is completely understandable if you don't, I probably wouldn't either if I had not had the direct experience that I did..

BMF Bronco
05-12-2010, 05:19 PM
I would appear not too well.

I am just sharing a personal experience that happens to relate to the OP.I am not asking any of you to believe me. In fact it is completely understandable if you don't, I probably wouldn't either if I had not had the direct experience that I did..

Aww come on baja, you know I am just giving you ****! I can care less one way or another on this, just thought I'd eff with you a bit. :peace:

baja
05-12-2010, 05:20 PM
<b>I'm personally underwhelmed, but to each their own.</b> For future reference you should say "I believe him to be the real deal" instead.

Fair enough Rev.

Just I would suggest leave a little room for the possibility it might be true.

No matter what I do I will never be able to prove it to you.

baja
05-12-2010, 05:21 PM
BTW I arrived home in one piece and it is good to be home...

baja
05-12-2010, 05:23 PM
Aww come on baja, you know I am just giving you ****! I can care less one way or another on this, just thought I'd eff with you a bit. :peace:

No Prob.

How's it going with the new life. Well I pray!

BMF Bronco
05-12-2010, 05:34 PM
Yeah, things are going great, have my days where nothing sounds better than a beer, but have to press through that crap and come to my senses. But otherwise it fantastic!

baja
05-12-2010, 05:42 PM
Yeah, things are going great, have my days where nothing sounds better than a beer, but have to press through that crap and come to my senses. But otherwise it fantastic!

So glad to hear that. I remember all the fun we have had posting back and forth over the years. How about a donut race??

Did I ever tell you I was a hopeless street drunk for over 15 years and a drunk for 30+ years.

Life completely turned around for me when I quit drinking. Oh it took about 2 years of sobriety in order to find the real me but I have not longed for a drink for 12 or so years. Stick with it there is a big payoff coming. One day at a time.

God Bless.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 06:27 PM
Fair enough Rev.

Just I would suggest leave a little room for the possibility it might be true.

No matter what I do I will never be able to prove it to you.

This isn't the tooth fairy... it's a very provable scenario.

baja
05-12-2010, 06:42 PM
This isn't the tooth fairy... it's a very provable scenario.

Maybe so but I do not have the prove you ask for, just my own story about it.

Taco John
05-12-2010, 06:46 PM
Oh yeah. Well could he eat 30 habaneros without twitching?

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 07:04 PM
Maybe so but I do not have the prove you ask for, just my own story about it.

Spoiler alert: No one does.

Let's pretend your solar yogi or whatever could do this. Why wouldn't he show the world? Don't say humility because anyone with that kind of knowledge could be an extremely beneficial figure to the human race. Think of how it could revolutionize modern science and medicine alone, not to mention the emphasis and reinforcement it would place on their teachings.

So why don't they?

Because they're lying. It's unfortunately just not true.

baja
05-12-2010, 07:13 PM
Spoiler alert: No one does.

Let's pretend your solar yogi or whatever could do this. <b> Why wouldn't he show the world? </b> Don't say humility because anyone with that kind of knowledge could be an extremely beneficial figure to the human race. Think of how it could revolutionize modern science and medicine alone, not to mention the emphasis and reinforcement it would place on their teachings.

So why don't they?

Because they're lying. It's unfortunately just not true.

He is showing the world by example each and every day but may people react just the way you have until they meet him that is.

Remember Jesus lovingly offering to let someone feel his wounds to satisfy their doubt?

Sun Yogi has a huge following in Asia, he is considered a Saint yet he does not seek followers but you can feel the love he has for all beings. When you spend time with the man you know he has no reason to lie.

His example is his teaching. He does not ask for acceptance nor does he need to prove anything. He just is.

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 07:35 PM
He is showing the world by example each and every day but may people react just the way you have until they meet him that is.

Remember Jesus lovingly offering to let someone feel his wounds to satisfy their doubt?

Sun Yogi has a huge following in Asia, he is considered a Saint yet he does not seek followers but you can feel the love he has for all beings. When you spend time with the man you know he has no reason to lie.

His example is his teaching. He does not ask for acceptance nor does he need to prove anything. He just is.

And quite an example he sets...

for a price.

http://www.sunyoga.info/documents/Requirements%20for%20hosting%20Sunyogi%20Umasankar .pdf

:rofl:

He needs money and the internet and to avoid proving his claims through scientific monitoring, eh? Yeah, I buy into this guy... (pun intended)

baja
05-12-2010, 07:57 PM
And quite an example he sets...

for a price.

http://www.sunyoga.info/documents/Requirements%20for%20hosting%20Sunyogi%20Umasankar .pdf

:rofl:

He needs money and the internet and to avoid proving his claims through scientific monitoring, eh? Yeah, I buy into this guy... (pun intended)

You have a problem with this?


Requirements for hosting Sunyogi Umasankar.
Sun swami has been sharing the knowledge of Sun yoga generously running on
a donation basis since 1997. Now with his popularity there are certain
requirements for hosting a retreat.
The following guidelines, makes his travel, and teachings more efficient, and
respected. We hope you understand the need for the requirements.
Travel and lodging
All travel expenses, including airport pick up must be covered.
Private accommodation, in a quiet environment that supports
swami’s sadhana practice.
The use of a computer with internet.
1-3pm is resting time.
Teachings Requirements
A white board and markers.
A projector with sound.
Microphone (if venue is large).
The outside venue must face the sunrise, the practical teachings
can be offered in a inside venue.
Students requirements
Students must attend all teachings.
Students must be punctual.
No new comers after the first day.

Sponsoring his time.
From his past experiences, Swami Gi, has been booked and on
several occasions and the inviting party at the last minute has
cancelled. So those who are sincerely interested in hosting
Swami must agree to the following.
A non-refundable deposit is required to book his time.
For Indians 5000 rsp is required, sent through a bank draft.
For Foreigners $300 dollars, or equivalent.
40% of the workshop earning are to be shared (after expenses )
to sun swami ashram, so if there is not enough students the
host/ess will have to cover the minimum donation of 10,000 rs.
If you would like to have a free introductory talk for the public
to learn more about sun yoga and swamis teachings, this is also
an option for inviting more students.

Written in his behalf by someone such as yourself that wants to see this great teaching spread through the world. Sun Yogi would not think to ask this himself. He has no concern for money he already has everything he needs.


You are disingenuous Rev. We are done here.

Requiem
05-12-2010, 07:58 PM
Baja, thanks for sharing the story of your friend. Appreciate it, regardless of the ball busting you are getting.

baja
05-12-2010, 08:01 PM
Baja, thanks for sharing the story of your friend. Appreciate it, regardless of the ball busting you are getting.

Thanks

I don't mind, I understand the skepticism

rmsanger
05-12-2010, 08:03 PM
This is about as much bull**** as Tim Tebow's preaching of some other higher being. When will you people learn.

Requiem
05-12-2010, 08:04 PM
Thanks

I don't mind, I understand the skepticism

I think it's a little more than just skepticism, but yeah. It's amazing what people will bring in their life's journey!

TheReverend
05-12-2010, 08:09 PM
Sponsoring his time.
From his past experiences, Swami Gi, has been booked and on
several occasions and the inviting party at the last minute has
cancelled. So those who are sincerely interested in hosting
Swami must agree to the following.
A non-refundable deposit is required to book his time.
For Indians 5000 rsp is required, sent through a bank draft.
For Foreigners $300 dollars, or equivalent.
40% of the workshop earning are to be shared (after expenses )
to sun swami ashram, so if there is not enough students the
host/ess will have to cover the minimum donation of 10,000 rs.
If you would like to have a free introductory talk for the public
to learn more about sun yoga and swamis teachings, this is also
an option for inviting more students.

Written in his behalf by someone such as yourself that wants to see this great teaching spread through the world. Sun Yogi would not think to ask this himself. He has no concern for money he already has everything he needs.


You are disingenuous Rev. We are done here.

Clearly

baja
05-12-2010, 08:10 PM
I think it's a little more than just skepticism, but yeah. It's amazing what people will bring in their life's journey!

Ya I suppose it is but I just have sympathy for them that need to get their feel good by herding up and attacking someone for an alien concept.

Hell I still get shiit for a colon cleansing thread I started years ago. (pun intended) I like to think it might have helped someone with a disorder.

Truly most are full of shiit, that is their root problem.

baja
05-12-2010, 08:17 PM
Clearly

Once again someone else decided to take this on and interjected their value on the teaching. Did you notice that Sun Yogi has been doing these workshops since 1997 by donation only.

How many millions do you think he could make if he subjected himself to the world of Opra?

Last post on this Rev.

Mogulseeker
05-12-2010, 09:05 PM
I haven't had any food in 30 minutes and I haven't had a drop of water in about a minute.

OABB
05-13-2010, 12:11 AM
Who would win in a fight? Sun yogi or tebow?

baja
05-13-2010, 12:26 AM
Who would win in a fight? Sun yogi or tebow?

Tebow would love Sun Yogi and it would be impossible for them to even think about a fight.

I would be shocked it even the most cynical of people would not be moved in the presence of Sun Yogi. You just know he is special. I would love to see Rev after he spent some time with Sun Yogi.

Fedaykin
05-13-2010, 09:13 AM
Typical Human energy requirement: 100W (based on a 2,000 calorie diet)

Absolute upper limit (assuming 100% efficiency, 100% absorption, etc.) for energy derived by sun gazing for an hour a day: ~0.5W (won't bore you with the math, but will show on demand)

Likely usable energy from sungazing (assuming 5% energy transfer efficiency, similar to plants, and 50% absorption): 0.0125W

Energy required to maintain normal human body temperature for the average person: 60-80W
Average power required to keep just a heart beating: 2W
Average power required to have a functioning brain: 15-20W


So, even assuming he has a mechanism to utilize sunlight as an energy source and using the theoretical maximum energy he could derive based on his description of sungazing, he's almost 100x short on the energy required to maintain normal human body temperature and 10x short on the energy required just to keep his heart beating.

So I ask again, was he a vampire? The only human like thing I've ever heard of with no heartbeat and no body temperature was a vampire. Of course, he'd have to be a brain dead vampire too, as he wouldn't have the energy to even form a thought.

baja
05-13-2010, 09:16 AM
Typical Human energy requirement: 100W (based on a 2,000 calorie diet)

Absolute upper limit (assuming 100% efficiency, 100% absorption, etc.) for energy derived by sun gazing for an hour a day: ~0.5W (won't bore you with the math, but will show on demand)

Likely usable energy from sungazing (assuming 5% energy transfer efficiency, similar to plants, and 50% absorption): 0.0125W

Energy required to maintain normal human body temperature for the average person: 60-80W
Average power required to keep just a heart beating: 2W
Average power required to have a functioning brain: 15-20W


So, even assuming he has a mechanism to utilize sunlight as an energy source and using the theoretical maximum energy he could derive based on his description of sungazing, he's almost 100x short on the energy required to maintain normal human body temperature and 10x short on the energy required just to keep his heart beating.

So I ask again, was he a vampire? The only human like thing I've ever heard of with no heartbeat and no body temperature was a vampire. Of course, he'd have to be a brain dead vampire too, as he wouldn't have the energy to even form a thought.

Yet he (Sun Yogi) does it, go figure ;D

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 09:19 AM
Typical Human energy requirement: 100W (based on a 2,000 calorie diet)

Absolute upper limit (assuming 100% efficiency, 100% absorption, etc.) for energy derived by sun gazing for an hour a day: ~0.5W (won't bore you with the math, but will show on demand)

Likely usable energy from sungazing (assuming 5% energy transfer efficiency, similar to plants, and 50% absorption): 0.0125W

Energy required to maintain normal human body temperature for the average person: 60-80W
Average power required to keep just a heart beating: 2W
Average power required to have a functioning brain: 15-20W


So, even assuming he has a mechanism to utilize sunlight as an energy source and using the theoretical maximum energy he could derive based on his description of sungazing, he's almost 100x short on the energy required to maintain normal human body temperature and 10x short on the energy required just to keep his heart beating.

So I ask again, was he a vampire? The only human like thing I've ever heard of with no heartbeat and no body temperature was a vampire. Of course, he'd have to be a brain dead vampire too, as he wouldn't have the energy to even form a thought.

Great post.

Let's no disregard that if he had some form of photosynthesis he'd require massive quantities of water unless he's substituting something else as the electron donor. Otherwise, the 6 water molecules for every 1 glucose molecule output is gonna put this "sun gazer" swimming in fluids.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 09:20 AM
Yet he (Sun Yogi) does it, go figure ;D

Have you completed written off the possibility that he doesn't do it and that you're gullible?

Fedaykin
05-13-2010, 09:26 AM
Yet he (Sun Yogi) is a charlatan that claims to do it, go figure ;D

Fixed for ya.

Fedaykin
05-13-2010, 09:29 AM
Great post.

Let's no disregard that if he had some form of photosynthesis he'd require massive quantities of water unless he's substituting something else as the electron donor. Otherwise, the 6 water molecules for every 1 glucose molecule output is gonna put this "sun gazer" swimming in fluids.

...or vitamins, minerals and other nutrients.

Can vampires get scurvey?

baja
05-13-2010, 09:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppjYDj9JUc

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 09:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppjYDj9JUc

Can you give one possible example of how that applies?

In fact, it kinda proves OUR side of the argument... that archaic beliefs are not the right one and the scientific method can PROVE them false.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 09:48 AM
Of course, knowing you and how much you love the Middle Easterners and hate the evil western civilization, you may be trying to say that you believe the world is flat...

baja
05-13-2010, 10:00 AM
Of course, knowing you and how much you love the Middle Easterners and hate the evil western civilization, you may be trying to say that you believe the world is flat...

are saying it isn't? Have you read the Qur'an?

Rohirrim
05-13-2010, 10:03 AM
Tofu enemas. That's his secret. Not a morsel of food passes his lips. Depends on your definition of "lips" I guess.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 10:08 AM
are saying it isn't? Have you read the Qur'an?

In the above post: Baja tries to deflect his gullibility into just joking around.

baja
05-13-2010, 10:09 AM
Tofu enemas. That's his secret. Not a morsel of food passes his lips. Depends on your definition of "lips" I guess.

Last summer for 30 days I had no solid food. I had only green juice that I made every day. Celery, peeled lemon, cucumber, cilantro apple and than blend with fresh aloe vera gel. 1/2 gal to 1 gal a day.

with the occasional wheat grass enema thrown in.

baja
05-13-2010, 10:16 AM
In the above post: Baja tries to deflect his gullibility into just joking around.

I stated my opinion you disagree how long would you like to go on with this.

Your need to show anonymous characters on a message board how smart you is quite pathetic. Funny part is you are accomplishing the opposite to many here as shown in my received rep comments.

Rohirrim
05-13-2010, 10:17 AM
Last summer for 30 days I had no solid food. I had only green juice that I made every day. Celery, peeled lemon, cucumber, cilantro apple and than blend with fresh aloe vera gel. 1/2 gal to 1 gal a day.

with the occasional wheat grass enema thrown in.

TMI! TMI! :rofl:

Kaylore
05-13-2010, 10:23 AM
Actually Baja, I've learned that you're crazier than I originally thought by seeing this exchange. The fifth dimension? You can live on sunlight? You see nothing wrong with your Yogi asking people to pay for his flight and give him $300 per person to tell them to stare out a window? And then there's your constant insistence that the US is falling apart. That people don't have food and we'll all be in anarchy in four years.

Sorry Baja, but you and I just don't see eye to eye.

baja
05-13-2010, 10:26 AM
TMI! TMI! :rofl:

I was here for three months last summer as a missionary.

http://www.optimumhealth.org/OptimumHealth/OhiSanDiego/ohisandiego.htm

"The health resort where everyone shiits green"

baja
05-13-2010, 10:32 AM
Actually Baja, I've learned that you're crazier than I originally thought by seeing this exchange. The fifth dimension? You can live on sunlight? You see nothing wrong with your Yogi asking people to pay for his flight and give him $300 per person to tell them to stare out a window? And then there's your constant insistence that the US is falling apart. That people don't have food and we'll all be in anarchy in four years.

Sorry Baja, but you and I just don't see eye to eye.

Don't be sorry your opinion does not hurt me in the least I still like you and read every one of your posts. Matter of a fact I'm kinda sweet on you.

Remember what Jesus said, "Greater Works Than These Shall Ye Do"

OABB
05-13-2010, 10:38 AM
Actually Baja, I've learned that you're crazier than I originally thought by seeing this exchange. The fifth dimension? You can live on sunlight? You see nothing wrong with your Yogi asking people to pay for his flight and give him $300 per person to tell them to stare out a window? And then there's your constant insistence that the US is falling apart. That people don't have food and we'll all be in anarchy in four years.

Sorry Baja, but you and I just don't see eye to eye.

I love Baja, but I knew he was bat**** years ago when he argued that a woman hitchiking through turkey was more heroic than a soldier diving on a live hand grenade. It is all starting to make sense now.

baja
05-13-2010, 10:42 AM
I love Baja, but I knew he was bat**** years ago when he argued that a woman hitchiking through turkey was more heroic than a soldier diving on a live hand grenade. It is all starting to make sense now.

I said they were equally as brave

OABB
05-13-2010, 11:07 AM
I said they were equally as brave

oh....well maybe not bat****, how about horse**** crazy than?

baja
05-13-2010, 11:15 AM
oh....well maybe not bat****, how about horse**** crazy than?

How about misunderstood visionary? ;D

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 11:17 AM
I stated my opinion you disagree how long would you like to go on with this.

Your need to show anonymous characters on a message board how smart you is quite pathetic. Funny part is you are accomplishing the opposite to many here as shown in my received rep comments.

Your insecurity with your opinon is bringing you to that conclusion and why you keep saying "I'm done with this" only to return and make a pseudo-intellectual/new age response. Not me. I've got 5 years of showing I could care less what people here think... you on the other hand...

As for the rep comments:
1. Who cares?
2. I'd be downright stunned if you had more than I do of people laughing at how stupid you look as a 60 year old delusional man.
3. Why aren't ANY these people speaking up if they buy into your insanity?

OABB
05-13-2010, 11:32 AM
How about misunderstood visionary? ;D

godwins law in 3...2.....

baja
05-13-2010, 11:35 AM
Your insecurity with your opinon is bringing you to that conclusion and why you keep saying "I'm done with this" only to return and make a pseudo-intellectual/new age response. Not me. I've got 5 years of showing I could care less what people here think... you on the other hand...

As for the rep comments:
1. Who cares?
2. I'd be downright stunned if you had more than I do of people laughing at how stupid you look as a 60 year old delusional man.
3. Why aren't ANY these people speaking up if they buy into your insanity?

I really love how you have learned to make certain words big and bold. Really shows your power. ;D

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 11:44 AM
I really love how you have learned to make certain words big and bold. Really shows your power. ;D

Yeah, that was the intent... It's nice to see your delusions seep into every fiber of your being... including your interpretation of an online discuss :loopy:

baja
05-13-2010, 11:48 AM
Yeah, that was the intent... It's nice to see your delusions seep into every fiber of your being... including your interpretation of an online discuss :loopy:

Why thank you are you available for more in depth analyst.

baja
05-13-2010, 11:50 AM
Or maybe some more age smack that is impressive.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 11:53 AM
Why thank you are you available for more in depth analyst.

Or maybe some more age smack that is impressive.

On this thread page, baja desperately tries to devolve the conversation to deflect attention from his beliefs.

OABB
05-13-2010, 11:54 AM
I think that if Baja wants to believe this insanity than let him. He isn't hurting anyone. And besides, I would much rather he talk about this than him having sex. I mean, Jesus that's disgusting.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 12:01 PM
I think that if Baja wants to believe this insanity than let him. He isn't hurting anyone. And besides, I would much rather he talk about this than him having sex. I mean, Jesus that's disgusting.

So disgusting that it swapped letters, even.

And, yes, I completely agree.

But when you come into a thread by proclaiming first hand experience that something like this is real and immediately diving head first into comments like:

It amazes me what confidence ignorance brings.

Nothing quite a pathetic as a 'know-it-all' fool.

It's the stock that the George Bushs come from.

Read on smug one.

http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2010/03/the-structure-of-the-kuhnian-revolution/

You are a broken record of wrong captain Fail.

I am in the San Diego airport as I type and have been in MY wonderful but at risk country for 3 weeks.

Many will survive and it will not be where you are but your ability to accept the quickening of vibration that ushers in the quantum leap known as the 5th Dimension .

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13070896/


You won't make it Meck is my bet. Can I have your bus?

And then to finally regale us that his personal experience was NOTHING more than "he's a holy man and I believe him"...

He's a sick man, and he doesn't even know it. Does it affect me? Not at all. But it's certainly fun to play with.

baja
05-13-2010, 12:02 PM
I think that if Baja wants to believe this insanity than let him. He isn't hurting anyone. And besides, I would much rather he talk about this than him having sex. I mean, Jesus that's disgusting.

I didn't have sex with Jesus but I do love him

baja
05-13-2010, 12:03 PM
On this thread page, baja desperately tries to devolve the conversation to deflect attention from his beliefs.

You really suck at fishing

baja
05-13-2010, 12:04 PM
So disgusting that it swapped letters, even.

And, yes, I completely agree.

But when you come into a thread by proclaiming first hand experience that something like this is real and immediately diving head first into comments like:







And then to finally regale us that his personal experience was NOTHING more than "he's a holy man and I believe him"...

He's a sick man, and he doesn't even know it. Does it affect me? Not at all. But it's certainly fun to play with.


Tell the truth you need me.

Meck77
05-13-2010, 12:44 PM
Baja you are correct. I was born rich. Rich with the connection to farming and hard work. Both my parents immigrated here legally from the Ukraine They came with their shirts on their backs and a couple of suitcases. Most importantly they were rich with knowledge.

The difference between me and you is I don't care what you do or have. Not sure why you care so much about me.

Blueflame
05-13-2010, 01:34 PM
Typical Human energy requirement: 100W (based on a 2,000 calorie diet)

Absolute upper limit (assuming 100% efficiency, 100% absorption, etc.) for energy derived by sun gazing for an hour a day: ~0.5W (won't bore you with the math, but will show on demand)

Likely usable energy from sungazing (assuming 5% energy transfer efficiency, similar to plants, and 50% absorption): 0.0125W

Energy required to maintain normal human body temperature for the average person: 60-80W
Average power required to keep just a heart beating: 2W
Average power required to have a functioning brain: 15-20W


So, even assuming he has a mechanism to utilize sunlight as an energy source and using the theoretical maximum energy he could derive based on his description of sungazing, he's almost 100x short on the energy required to maintain normal human body temperature and 10x short on the energy required just to keep his heart beating.

So I ask again, was he a vampire? The only human like thing I've ever heard of with no heartbeat and no body temperature was a vampire. Of course, he'd have to be a brain dead vampire too, as he wouldn't have the energy to even form a thought.

Um... sun-gazing for even a couple of seconds would kill a vampire.

Fedaykin
05-13-2010, 02:03 PM
Um... sun-gazing for even a couple of seconds would kill a vampire.

>.>

baja
05-13-2010, 02:05 PM
um... Sun-gazing for even a couple of seconds would kill a vampire.

lol

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 02:41 PM
Typical Human energy requirement: 100W (based on a 2,000 calorie diet)

Absolute upper limit (assuming 100% efficiency, 100% absorption, etc.) for energy derived by sun gazing for an hour a day: ~0.5W (won't bore you with the math, but will show on demand)

Likely usable energy from sungazing (assuming 5% energy transfer efficiency, similar to plants, and 50% absorption): 0.0125W

Energy required to maintain normal human body temperature for the average person: 60-80W
Average power required to keep just a heart beating: 2W
Average power required to have a functioning brain: 15-20W


So, even assuming he has a mechanism to utilize sunlight as an energy source and using the theoretical maximum energy he could derive based on his description of sungazing, he's almost 100x short on the energy required to maintain normal human body temperature and 10x short on the energy required just to keep his heart beating.

So I ask again, was he a vampire? The only human like thing I've ever heard of with no heartbeat and no body temperature was a vampire. Of course, he'd have to be a brain dead vampire too, as he wouldn't have the energy to even form a thought.

In the interest of being open-minded and fair, I'm going over your math to see what results I come up with.

Did you use 120watts per square meter/day and then adjust it to the general surface area of a meditating yogi and his meditation duration? Because I'm getting about 7x your value (before either of us adjust for transfer efficiency and absorption). Regardless, the .083 W I'm coming up with is still 100% unsurvivable.

baja
05-13-2010, 02:50 PM
In the interest of being open-minded and fair, I'm going over your math to see what results I come up with.

Did you use 120watts per square meter/day and then adjust it to the general surface area of a meditating yogi and his meditation duration? Because I'm getting about 7x your value (before either of us adjust for transfer efficiency and absorption). Regardless, the .083 W I'm coming up with is still 100% unsurvivable.

Currently Prana can not be measured.

Prana is what is feeding Sun Yogi's life force.

Rohirrim
05-13-2010, 02:51 PM
Currently Prana can not be measured.

Prana is what is feeding Sun Yogi's life force.

What happens when he farts? Do little light bubbles come out?

baja
05-13-2010, 02:53 PM
What happens when he farts? Do little light bubbles come out?

He has transcended intestinal gas

baja
05-13-2010, 02:54 PM
Saints don't fart!

Fedaykin
05-13-2010, 02:55 PM
In the interest of being open-minded and fair, I'm going over your math to see what results I come up with.

Did you use 120watts per square meter/day and then adjust it to the general surface area of a meditating yogi and his meditation duration? Because I'm getting about 7x your value (before either of us adjust for transfer efficiency and absorption). Regardless, the .083 W I'm coming up with is still 100% unsurvivable.

I used 250W/m^2 and an estimate of the exposed surface area of eyes of 5cm^2 for a duration of one hour. The description I read from a link posted here was that the energy was absorbed via the eyes by staring at the sun near the horizon for one hour a day.

Rohirrim
05-13-2010, 02:57 PM
Saints don't fart!

And if they do, it smells like gardenias.

Rohirrim
05-13-2010, 02:58 PM
He has transcended intestinal gas

I haven't. :wiggle:

baja
05-13-2010, 03:01 PM
I haven't. :wiggle:

After about 20 days of green juice feasting I don't fart and my shiit doesn't stink. ;D

Rohirrim
05-13-2010, 03:03 PM
After about 20 days of green juice feasting I don't fart and my shiit doesn't stink. ;D

Seems like a high price to pay for very little reward.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 03:07 PM
I used 250W/m^2 and an estimate of the exposed surface area of eyes of 5cm^2 for a duration of one hour. The description I read from a link posted here was that the energy was absorbed via the eyes by staring at the sun near the horizon for one hour a day.

Thank you.

And for reference: using my figure of his entire body acting as a solar panel, even if you give him 100% efficiency in absorption and energy transfer... he'd still be completely void of function and dead.

baja
05-13-2010, 03:10 PM
Thank you.

And for reference: using my figure of his entire body acting as a solar panel, even if you give him 100% efficiency in absorption and energy transfer... he'd still be completely void of function and dead.

I should let him know about his passing.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 03:14 PM
Currently Prana can not be measured.

Prana is what is feeding Sun Yogi's life force.

Pranashakti means the primordial cosmic energy inherent in breath (Prana is the Sanskrit for "breath" and Shakti means sacred force or empowerment). It is the primordial cosmic energy[7] or the cosmic connection through breath. Connecting this link can make profound transformations in a human being. Yoga texts say “One who knows Prana knows the Vedas highest knowledge. And the Upanishads says “Prana is Brahman”.. Getting this link established is the primary goal of a spiritual aspirant. There are spiritual traditions that work to establish this cosmic connection by using special diksha’s and yogic practices in order to uplift an aspirant to high levels of attainment. The most notable traditions are those of the Siddhars of Tamil. The Siddhars of the south India has been instrumental in bringing the knowledge of this tradition in its supreme. In today's world these traditions are being carried down by masters like Pransiddhar

-------------------------

In bold. Motive for lying established.

Fedaykin
05-13-2010, 03:15 PM
Currently Prana can not be measured.

Prana is what is feeding Sun Yogi's life force.

Un-huh, and Midi-chlorians allow me to perform feats of mind control, extraordinary physical prowess and telekinesis. Oh, and one day I'll be able to shoot lightning from me arse, kinda like William Wallace.

watermock
05-13-2010, 03:21 PM
well, he's a cage now under straw at night sun in day.

I don't know. There are plenty of examples of humans defying certain death.

I'd hate lose a yogi for a simple parlor trick....

baja
05-13-2010, 03:23 PM
well, he's a cage now under straw at night sun in day.

I don't know. There are plenty of examples of humans defying certain death.

I'd hate lose a yogi for a simple parlor trick....

Mock there times when you make my day.

Thank you for being you.

I love ya man. ;D

baja
05-13-2010, 03:37 PM
Pranashakti means the primordial cosmic energy inherent in breath (Prana is the Sanskrit for "breath" and Shakti means sacred force or empowerment). It is the primordial cosmic energy[7] or the cosmic connection through breath. Connecting this link can make profound transformations in a human being. Yoga texts say “One who knows Prana knows the Vedas highest knowledge. And the Upanishads says “Prana is Brahman”.. Getting this link established is the primary goal of a spiritual aspirant. There are spiritual traditions that work to establish this cosmic connection by using special diksha’s and yogic practices in order to uplift an aspirant to high levels of attainment. The most notable traditions are those of the Siddhars of Tamil. The Siddhars of the south India has been instrumental in bringing the knowledge of this tradition in its supreme. In today's world these traditions are being carried down by masters like Pransiddhar

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In bold. Motive for lying established.

Light (also a form of Prana) enters the pupil of the eye and is energy for the body (can't be measured no matter how smart you think you are) breath is also Prana ie your quote; "primordial cosmic energy") and is just as important. Notice Sun Yogi never claimed to not breath.

You like to research check out the book Gaff recommended, "The Autobiography of a Yogi" also look at "Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East Vol. 1 thru 6 by Brad T. Spalding, course you might not like it because the Masters were not American.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 03:39 PM
Light (also a form of Prana) enters the pupil of the eye and is energy for the body (can't be measured no matter how smart you think you are) breath is also Prana ie your quote; "primordial cosmic energy") and is just as important. Notice Sun Yogi never claimed to not breath.

You like to research check out the book Gaff recommended, "The Autobiography of a Yogi" also look at "Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East Vol. 1 thru 6 by Brad T. Spalding, course you might not like it because the Masters were not American.

0 relevance to my post.

Good work again, baja!

baja
05-13-2010, 03:49 PM
0 relevance to my post.

Good work again, baja!

OK don't read the classic books in an effort to understand the forces at work here.

Keep up with the insults they are convincing and are really showing the others how cool you really are.

You have been asking with the intent to ridicule how it is possible to go without eating so I give you a couple of classic books close to the subject and all you can say is

Na na not relevant to MY post.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 03:55 PM
OK don't read the classic books in an effort to understand the forces at work here.

Keep up with the insults they are convincing and are really showing the others how cool you really are.

You have been asking with the intent to ridicule how it is possible to go without eating so I give you a couple of classic books close to the subject and all you can say is

Na na not relevant to MY post.

I wasn't arguing about what prana is, bright eyes. I was pointing out the potential motive for lying about his "abilities". Being Brahman is godlike for Hindus. Would make the yogi almost, or maybe even on, the level of an avatara.

It's David Koresh ****.

As for the book you posted. I won't promise to read it, but I WILL look into it and see if it's something I think would be worth the read.

baja
05-13-2010, 03:59 PM
I wasn't arguing about what prana is, bright eyes. I was pointing out the potential motive for lying about his "abilities". Being Brahman is godlike for Hindus. Would make the yogi almost, or maybe even on, the level of an avatara.

It's David Koresh ****.

As for the book you posted. I won't promise to read it, but I WILL look into it and see if it's something I think would be worth the read.

Fair enough on the books I'd like to hear your take after you give them a serious look.

BTW it's a book.... and a set of six volumes of a series but just look at the first one of the series and the Yogananda to start.

Fedaykin
05-13-2010, 04:11 PM
OK don't read the classic books in an effort to understand the forces at work here.

Keep up with the insults they are convincing and are really showing the others how cool you really are.

You have been asking with the intent to ridicule how it is possible to go without eating so I give you a couple of classic books close to the subject and all you can say is

Na na not relevant to MY post.

Anyone can write a book that makes any claim -- fiction is common.

Where's the peer reviewed research confirming their claims? The test protocol would be simple: lock them in a room with access to anything they want except food and water, and see how long they last. The more humane version might include a known quantity of food and water and a buzzer to get released =)

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 05:00 PM
Fair enough on the books I'd like to hear your take after you give them a serious look.

BTW it's a book.... and a set of six volumes of a series but just look at the first one of the series and the Yogananda to start.

I looked into the author first.

Seems he may very well be a pathological liar.

Claimed to be born in England in 1853, but was actually born in NY in the 1870s. Also his premise of traveling to India with a research team of 11 scientists seems to be pretty suspect considering he was a miner and as for the actual trip: "Spalding never produced any evidence of the claimed trip, and none of the other scientists were ever identified."

Considering that these books are probably a complete fabrication, I'm going to have to pass.

I'm gonna look up the other one you suggested now though.

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 05:24 PM
I looked into the author first.

Seems he may very well be a pathological liar.

Claimed to be born in England in 1853, but was actually born in NY in the 1870s. Also his premise of traveling to India with a research team of 11 scientists seems to be pretty suspect considering he was a miner and as for the actual trip: "Spalding never produced any evidence of the claimed trip, and none of the other scientists were ever identified."

Considering that these books are probably a complete fabrication, I'm going to have to pass.

I'm gonna look up the other one you suggested now though.

That being said, Paramhansa Yogananda seems to be a pretty extraordinary man, and there are no criticisms towards his legitimacy nor his autobiography which by the way, was voted as one of the most important novels by a panel of theologians.

I'll order this one for sure.

baja
05-13-2010, 05:29 PM
That being said, Paramhansa Yogananda seems to be a pretty extraordinary man, and there are no criticisms towards his legitimacy nor his autobiography which by the way, was voted as one of the most important novels by a panel of theologians.

I'll order this one for sure.

Enjoy!

and good on ya Rev.

baja
05-13-2010, 05:36 PM
This is good to and is somewhat related. It is about the amazing ability of the human body to communicate on the cellular level. Pert almost won a Noble prize for this work.

http://homepage.mac.com/dave_rogers/images/132

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 05:36 PM
Enjoy!

and good on ya Rev.

This is my #1 hobby, baja.

Religions, aliens, unexplained things, etc.

I'd love for miracles, supernatural powers, ETs, etc to all be true. It'd make the world so much cooler. Unfortunately, nearly everything to date can and has been explained, and their origins are far from spiritual, supernatural or alien.

I'll be happy to read this as an opportunity to learn about an interesting person, but I HIGHLY doubt I'll walk away with anything that could be even vaguely be interpreted as evidence for the possibility of "sun gazing"

baja
05-13-2010, 05:50 PM
This is my #1 hobby, baja.

Religions, aliens, unexplained things, etc.

I'd love for miracles, supernatural powers, ETs, etc to all be true. It'd make the world so much cooler. Unfortunately, nearly everything to date can and has been explained, and their origins are far from spiritual, supernatural or alien.

I'll be happy to read this as an opportunity to learn about an interesting person, but I HIGHLY doubt I'll walk away with anything that could be even vaguely be interpreted as evidence for the possibility of "sun gazing"

Well at least you are willing to look into it. That says alot about you.

A great line in the movie Avatar - "You can't teach anything to a mind that is already full"

Here is something I found very interesting relative to our interchange earlier in the day as to what one can do to effect change. It explains how the Mayan Calendar shows perfect a order in the universe at it relates to time. Depicts the unfolding of evolution.

As Candice Pert says it's all in how you chose to feel about events in your life as they are happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEyZFbkvJjw

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 05:57 PM
Well at least you are willing to look into it. That says alot about you.

A great line in the movie Avatar - "You can't teach anything to a mind that is already full"

Here is something I found very interesting relative to our interchange earlier in the day as to what one can do to effect change. It explains how the Mayan Calendar shows perfect a order in the universe at it relates to time. Depicts the unfolding of evolution.

As Candice Pert says it's all in how you chose to feel about events in your life as they are happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEyZFbkvJjw

Though their advanced knowledge of astronomy was impressive, people pay way too much attention to a society who's elders would commune with the spirits through bloodletting by stabbing themselves in the penis.

baja
05-13-2010, 06:05 PM
Though their advanced knowledge of astronomy was impressive, people pay way too much attention to a society who's elders would commune with the spirits through bloodletting by stabbing themselves in the penis.

This is the definitive work on the Spiritual Mayan Calendar (There are three Mayan Calendars, the most well know one is actually a tax calendar);

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51pDn%2BGJe0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

TheReverend
05-13-2010, 06:11 PM
This is the definitive work on the Spiritual Mayan Calendar (There are three Mayan Calendars, the most well know one is actually a tax calendar);

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51pDn%2BGJe0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Read the title and lol'd.

baja
05-13-2010, 06:17 PM
Read the title and lol'd.

So it is chaos that is the pattern of the universe?

Do you believe in a benevolent Creative Force?

Mr. Elway
05-13-2010, 06:41 PM
As impressive as Mayan astronomy might be, it's nowhere near as impressive as modern science. If a Mayan astronomer could time travel to today, he would say "Yep, you guys know a lot more than we did. You're probably also right that the earth is not going to end in 2012."

The truth is that our civilization knows way more about the "secrets" of the universe than any other in history. People take that for granted, and want to believe that people thousands of years ago knew the "real truth." Then they get suckered by some guy pretending not to eat just because he looks mystical and stuff. You have to be a total rube to believe that dude.

Blueflame
06-14-2010, 09:03 PM
by request... bump

montrose
06-14-2010, 09:19 PM
Unfortunately, nearly everything to date can and has been explained, and their origins are far from spiritual, supernatural or alien.

False.

http://maxdenver.com/maxdenver/images/100604/tebow_tim_2_425.jpg
:strong:

baja
06-14-2010, 10:28 PM
Here is the thread you were looking for House


http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/35126/

baja
06-14-2010, 10:31 PM
After 15 days of investigation, India’s Defense Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences concluded its study of 82-year-old yogi Prahlad Jani on Thursday, May 6.

Jani, who claims to have lived without food or water since his childhood, was under the close watch of three video cameras 24 hours a day. Researchers conducted various medical tests on him. The research team, consisting of 35 scientists, could not find any evidence that Jani ate or drank anything during the 15 days.

Doctors have not found any adverse effects in his body from hunger or dehydration. They think that yoga exercises may have caused Jani’s body to undergo a biological transformation. The researchers said tests found that his brain is equivalent to that of a 25-year-old.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2010/05/10/yogi_98884713.jpg


In fact, according to the Daily Mail, the doctors said that after fasting for two weeks, Jani was healthier than the average 40-year-old.
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BFDD
06-14-2010, 10:51 PM
Baja. I've got this awesome article you should read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Red_Sea

true stuff!

Houshyamama
06-15-2010, 12:12 AM
Here is the thread you were looking for House


http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/35126/

danke mein freund

Houshyamama
06-15-2010, 12:12 AM
After 15 days of investigation, India’s Defense Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences concluded its study of 82-year-old yogi Prahlad Jani on Thursday, May 6.

Jani, who claims to have lived without food or water since his childhood, was under the close watch of three video cameras 24 hours a day. Researchers conducted various medical tests on him. The research team, consisting of 35 scientists, could not find any evidence that Jani ate or drank anything during the 15 days.

Doctors have not found any adverse effects in his body from hunger or dehydration. They think that yoga exercises may have caused Jani’s body to undergo a biological transformation. The researchers said tests found that his brain is equivalent to that of a 25-year-old.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2010/05/10/yogi_98884713.jpg


In fact, according to the Daily Mail, the doctors said that after fasting for two weeks, Jani was healthier than the average 40-year-old.
Related Articles
Indian Man Lives Seven Decades Without Food or Water

Personally, I think it's the big red dot and the nose ring...

bowtown
06-15-2010, 05:21 AM
Oh good, this thread is back.

BABronco
06-15-2010, 04:53 PM
So are we sure he isnt hiding a muffin in his beard?

Mr. Elway
06-15-2010, 05:04 PM
Judging by his expression, Nirvana must be quite a let down.

baja
06-15-2010, 05:07 PM
Judging by his expression, Nirvana must be quite a let down.

My guess it that pained look stems from the nose ring. I mean if you had a nose like that would you put a big shinny ring in it?

Mr. Elway
06-15-2010, 05:13 PM
My guess it that pained look stems from the nose ring. I mean if you had a nose like that would you put a big shinny ring in it?

and what's with that chin strap? No helmet, no chin strap.

baja
06-15-2010, 05:19 PM
and what's with that chin strap? No helmet, no chin strap.

....And it looks like his teeth are gone.

Guess "Use it or Lose it " applies here too.

OABB
06-15-2010, 05:37 PM
he eats his own semen. duh.

Hogan11
06-16-2010, 12:13 AM
That's what Ravi Shankar's ragas will do for you over time

SportinOne
06-16-2010, 12:42 AM
nearly everything to date can and has been explained, and their origins are far from spiritual, supernatural or alien.


for everything that we do know, break it down as far as you can and you are still left with questions.

Los Broncos
06-16-2010, 08:43 AM
he eats his own semen. duh.

He eats unicorn semen, right Rev.

That One Guy
06-16-2010, 08:58 AM
for everything that we do know, break it down as far as you can and you are still left with questions.

Well I guess we should go back to teaching creationism in schools then. The scientific community absolutely mocks anything that can't be explained with science so I refuse to accept "we don't know" as an answer in such a basic scenario as the body ingesting food and converting to fuel.

baja
06-16-2010, 09:07 AM
Beliefs can be expanding or limiting.

Beantown Bronco
06-16-2010, 09:10 AM
for everything that we do know, break it down as far as you can and you are still left with questions.

Sounds like the Lost finale.....

bowtown
06-16-2010, 09:31 AM
Beliefs can be expanding or limiting.

So can hot air.

Tombstone RJ
06-16-2010, 09:40 AM
After 15 days of investigation, India’s Defense Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences concluded its study of 82-year-old yogi Prahlad Jani on Thursday, May 6.

Jani, who claims to have lived without food or water since his childhood, was under the close watch of three video cameras 24 hours a day. Researchers conducted various medical tests on him. The research team, consisting of 35 scientists, could not find any evidence that Jani ate or drank anything during the 15 days.

Doctors have not found any adverse effects in his body from hunger or dehydration. They think that yoga exercises may have caused Jani’s body to undergo a biological transformation. The researchers said tests found that his brain is equivalent to that of a 25-year-old.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2010/05/10/yogi_98884713.jpg


In fact, according to the Daily Mail, the doctors said that after fasting for two weeks, Jani was healthier than the average 40-year-old.Related Articles
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This article almost seems to be saying that eating is bad for your health. Certainly, it can be if you abuse food but drinking water is also not good for you? Really?

If Jani has undergone a such a radical biological change, then he should be examined ad nausium to find out exactly what is going on. If all this is true, he may hold the key to stopping world hunger and the world water crises. And, thats just the beginning. If people do not have to eat or drink to live, and they can actually be healthier and more vibrant then everything we know as a race will be turned upside down. Chronic diseases like diabetes can be eliminated.

gyldenlove
06-16-2010, 10:48 AM
When a person fasts, there are usually changes in metabolism, but that was not observed in Jani.


I pulled that from the article and I call shenanigans. Metabolism is in essence the conversion of complex molecules into simpler molecules thereby releasing energy for the body to carry to on working and providing molecules usable for cell proliferation.

Metabolism can only happen if you metabolise something, so he must in some way or form take up metabolites (nurishment). This would be akin to an engine running without fuel.

gyldenlove
06-16-2010, 10:49 AM
This article almost seems to be saying that eating is bad for your health. Certainly, it can be if you abuse food but drinking water is also not good for you? Really?

If Jani has undergone a such a radical biological change, then he should be examined ad nausium to find out exactly what is going on. If all this is true, he may hold the key to stopping world hunger and the world water crises. And, thats just the beginning. If people do not have to eat or drink to live, and they can actually be healthier and more vibrant then everything we know as a race will be turned upside down. Chronic diseases like diabetes can be eliminated.

Eating is bad for your health, food contains free radicals, heavy metals, acidic ions and many other things you don't want, eating is almost as bad as breathing - oxygen is one of the most potent oxydizers in the human body and causes a significant percentage of all premature cell deaths as well as playing a large role causing cancer.

bowtown
06-16-2010, 10:54 AM
Eating is bad for your health, food contains free radicals, heavy metals, acidic ions and many other things you don't want, eating is almost as bad as breathing - oxygen is one of the most potent oxydizers in the human body and causes a significant percentage of all premature cell deaths as well as playing a large role causing cancer.

That's why I haven't breathed in over 30 years.

baja
06-16-2010, 10:55 AM
I pulled that from the article and I call shenanigans. Metabolism is in essence the conversion of complex molecules into simpler molecules thereby releasing energy for the body to carry to on working and providing molecules usable for cell proliferation.

Metabolism can only happen if you metabolise something, so he must in some way or form take up metabolites (nurishment). This would be akin to an engine running without fuel.

It's a fuel you do not yet understand.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-16-2010, 10:58 AM
Looks like there is a cord along the right side of his head, some type of key in his left nostril, and a button in the middle his forehead. Does anyone know how to start this guy up?

bowtown
06-16-2010, 11:02 AM
Looks like there is a cord along the right side of his head, some type of key in his left nostril, and a button in the middle his forehead. Does anyone know how to start this guy up?

Pull his finger, duh.

gyldenlove
06-16-2010, 11:04 AM
That's why I haven't breathed in over 30 years.

You could very well live forever then.

broncocalijohn
06-17-2011, 02:52 AM
****! Reading this and realized it was a year ago. So much laughs in this thread.

Taco John
06-17-2011, 03:07 AM
If Jani has undergone a such a radical biological change, then he should be examined ad nausium to find out exactly what is going on. If all this is true, he may hold the key to stopping world hunger and the world water crises. And, thats just the beginning. If people do not have to eat or drink to live, and they can actually be healthier and more vibrant then everything we know as a race will be turned upside down. Chronic diseases like diabetes can be eliminated.


Doubtful. I have been doing yoga off and on for 10 years. At first I kept it secret because I felt like a puss, but after a year of doing it pretty regularly, I decided that the way it made me feel was too good to be kept to myself. I started mentioning it to friends during sports warmups. I told my family. My wife watched and listened to me. One of my best friends who was in construction said it sounded like something he should do to prolong his career. Not one single one of them bothered, and now half of them are complaining about physical problems that could have easily been warded off with a little bit of preventative maintenance. My construction buddy has gotten so bad in the last 5 years that he can barely work. To this day, I believe if he'd had just started and even did something off and on for the last year, he'd have been much better off.

The fact is, it takes mental discipline to do yoga, let alone yoga and meditation. That doesn't come in a pill form. Even if it was true that yoga and meditation would guarantee people would live to 100, most people wouldn't have the discipline to do it.

broncocalijohn
06-17-2011, 03:15 AM
I have been doing yoga off and on for 10 years. At first I kept it secret because I felt like a puss, but after a year of doing it pretty regularly, I decided that the way it made me feel was too good to be kept to myself.......

The fact is, it takes mental discipline to do yoga, let alone yoga and meditation. That doesn't come in a pill form. Even if it was true that yoga and meditation would guarantee people would live to 100, most people wouldn't have the discipline to do it.

You are correct because no one wants to live to be a 100 year old p***Y!

Rock Chalk
06-17-2011, 07:05 AM
Rule of 3:

3 minutes without air
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

All = death no matter how spiritually retarded you may or may not be.

(There are some exceptions to this, some can go longer than the rule of 3, but this is a general rule and the periods some people can go longer are no more than a factor of 1.5)

TheReverend
06-17-2011, 07:30 AM
Rule of 3:

3 minutes without air
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

All = death no matter how spiritually retarded you may or may not be.

(There are some exceptions to this, some can go longer than the rule of 3, but this is a general rule and the periods some people can go longer are no more than a factor of 1.5)

Guess you missed baja's rule of 70 years?

jhns
06-17-2011, 07:40 AM
I read a lot about this and it is pretty dumb to think it is true. They make these claims a lot in Idia and they are always shown to be fake when independent people investigate. This same doctor was laughed at before this for a similar experience with some girl. They had her in a small room with nothing, only independent investigators found a hidden toilet, along with a food hole... Now, he wouldn't let any independent investigation for this guy. The guy went off camera regularly and even out of the complex to sunbath. He was allowed baths in which he "gargled" water regularly. He was never on camera when he had visitors. On top of all of this, the "scientist" involved in this didn't even attempt to publish anything about this because he was being laughed at....

Not that you needed to know this in order to know it was fake.. Well, those with a brain didn't.

rugbythug
06-17-2011, 07:50 AM
Rule of 3:

3 minutes without air
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

All = death no matter how spiritually retarded you may or may not be.

(There are some exceptions to this, some can go longer than the rule of 3, but this is a general rule and the periods some people can go longer are no more than a factor of 1.5)

3 seems pretty short.

GreatBronco16
06-17-2011, 08:28 AM
Anyone notice how dialated his eyes are?

alkemical
06-17-2011, 08:52 AM
Does Ganja food count?

Beantown Bronco
06-17-2011, 09:00 AM
****! Reading this and realized it was a year ago. So much laughs in this thread.

Holy crap.....time flies. I clearly remember this thread from the first time around and honestly would've guessed 4-6 months.

baja
06-17-2011, 10:45 AM
Rule of 3:

3 minutes without air
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

All = death no matter how spiritually retarded you may or may not be.

(There are some exceptions to this, some can go longer than the rule of 3, but this is a general rule and the periods some people can go longer are no more than a factor of 1.5)


Guess I'm gonna die tomorrow because it will be three weeks without food.

alkemical
06-17-2011, 10:47 AM
Guess I'm gonna die tomorrow because it will be three weeks without food.

Can you will me some tamales?

:)

Requiem
06-17-2011, 10:55 AM
Guess I'm gonna die tomorrow because it will be three weeks without food.

Juice is food you ****ing moron.

Rock Chalk
06-17-2011, 11:44 AM
Guess I'm gonna die tomorrow because it will be three weeks without food.

One can only hope.