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Kaylore
05-06-2010, 01:05 PM
Vote!

Man-Goblin
05-06-2010, 01:07 PM
Biggest bust ever; pun intended?

sisterhellfyre
05-06-2010, 01:08 PM
Vote!

HELL to the yes, biggest bust ever.

ColoradoDarin
05-06-2010, 01:09 PM
Yes, Leaf wasn't #1 overall.

Kaylore
05-06-2010, 01:22 PM
I'd like to hear from the "No" crowd to make their cases.

HEAV
05-06-2010, 01:28 PM
Following the draft, the Chargers signed Ryan Leaf to a four-year contract worth $31.25 million, including a guaranteed $11.25 million signing bonus. It was, at the time, the largest signing bonus ever paid to a rookie.[15] Shortly after being drafted, Leaf declared, "I'm looking forward to a 15 year career, a couple of trips to the Super Bowl, and a parade through downtown San Diego."


Russell held out through training camp and the first weeks of the 2007 NFL season, until September 12, 2007, when he signed a six-year contract worth up to $68 million, with $31.5 million guaranteed

Paladin
05-06-2010, 01:30 PM
Leaf was such an outright douchebag, no one around him liked him by all reports. The bag of donuts and fartballast knwn as Russell did have some people that seemed to like him. Sorta. And he lasted with the team longer than Leaf. And he had a better taste in bling beccause he was so child-like. (How doid he manage to get into LSU? Affirmative Action seems so inadequate to explain it.)

Besides, I wouldn't let a Faider win a fricking thing, even a contest to be the worst......

Rabb
05-06-2010, 01:30 PM
I said Leaf but only because he never beat us I don't think

I cannot get over what happened here last season with Jabba...as bad as he is, he organized a game winning drive...here...when it mattered

Smiling Assassin27
05-06-2010, 01:32 PM
Mandarich. The reason? Five words:

Greatest Offensive Line Prospect Ever

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1989/0424_large.jpg

Rohirrim
05-06-2010, 01:32 PM
I said Leaf but only because he never beat us I don't think

I cannot get over what happened here last season with Jabba...as bad as he is, he organized a game winning drive...here...when it mattered

You mean that really happened?

I thought it was just a nightmare. :pity:

Rabb
05-06-2010, 01:37 PM
You mean that really happened?

I thought it was just a nightmare. :pity:

it makes me sick

Dogsweat
05-06-2010, 01:42 PM
1. Russell

2. Leaf

http://www.lionsdenu.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/al-davis.jpg

Br0nc0Buster
05-06-2010, 01:43 PM
I say biggest bust I have ever seen
Granted I never saw Leaf or Mandarich play

but Russell gets my vote

Pseudofool
05-06-2010, 01:50 PM
Couch? Carr?

Br0nc0Buster
05-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Couch? Carr?

didnt Couch get to a probowl one time?
And Carr while not good was better than Russell by a lot.
Wasnt Russell on pace to break the record for worst qb rating for a season this past year before he got benched?

PRBronco
05-06-2010, 01:54 PM
Couch? Carr?

Couch was bad, but I don't think he counts with the epic busts.

Carr got a bum deal playing behind the worst offensive line ever during his formative years.

And they weren't epic douches, I actually felt bad for them. People like watching Jamarcus and Ryan Leaf fail.

Pseudofool
05-06-2010, 02:03 PM
They were both drafted first overall, right? Wasn't Couch couched with resurrecting the Browns? There might have been more cultural pressure on Couch than Russell. I don't know if we should factor that in.

Ugly Duck
05-06-2010, 02:22 PM
Oh yes. I usta watch the guy on the sidelines after he threw yet another incomprehensible INT or got the ball knocked out his hands for the umteenth time. Wouldn't look at photos of the defense. Wouldn't even look at the OC. He'd pull his greasy sweatband over his eyes & sit there. Just totally didn't give a f***. At least Leaf tried. Jabbarcus considered his career completed the moment he signed his contract. Definitely BBOAT.

Only stadium key Jabbarcus owns is Denver's.

Atwater His Ass
05-06-2010, 02:42 PM
Still Ryan Leaf for me.

cmhargrove
05-06-2010, 02:44 PM
I gotta see if Russell lands with another team first. If he can get a backup job for the next few years he might not make the top of the list.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-06-2010, 03:31 PM
Leaf was such an outright douchebag, no one around him liked him by all reports. The bag of donuts and fartballast knwn as Russell did have some people that seemed to like him. Sorta. And he lasted with the team longer than Leaf. And he had a better taste in bling beccause he was so child-like. (How doid he manage to get into LSU? Affirmative Action seems so inadequate to explain it.)

Besides, I wouldn't let a Faider win a fricking thing, even a contest to be the worst......

That's... I mean... that's a joke, right?

hookemhess
05-06-2010, 03:38 PM
I voted for Leaf. Jamarcus still have a couple bridges to burn with other teams before he is officially the biggest bust ever.

Kaylore
05-06-2010, 03:42 PM
FINALLY someone takes the Smash Mouth option.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-06-2010, 03:42 PM
@VeryFakeAlDavis (http://hootsuite.com/dashboard#) I feel like I've lost a big fat son. Or at least a morbidly obese nephew.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-06-2010, 03:43 PM
I'd like to hear from the "No" crowd to make their cases.No. not yet, too early to say that. But here are some interesting stats...

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Russell won only seven of his 25 starts as the Raiders extended an NFL-worst streak to seven straight seasons with at least 11 losses. He completed just 52.1 percent of his passes in his career with 18 touchdowns, 23 interceptions, 15 lost fumbles and a passer rating of 65.2.

That means Russell has been paid more than $5 million per win, more than $2 million per touchdown pass and more than $100,000 per completion (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_raiders_russell)

TheReverend
05-06-2010, 03:50 PM
At this point, absolutely.

There's still the potential for a rebound and this becoming a massive wake-up call... but I'm gonna say no chance in hell, and yes, he's the biggest bust of all time

Hogan11
05-06-2010, 04:04 PM
It's still Leaf at the moment because Russell still has a chance to be the greatest UFL player of all time

Kaylore
05-06-2010, 07:47 PM
It's still Leaf at the moment because Russell still has a chance to be the greatest UFL player of all time

I don't think he likes working. I think he wants to get paid to eat.

Hogan11
05-06-2010, 07:48 PM
I don't think he likes working. I think he wants to get paid to eat.

He could co-host Man Vs. Food

BroncoBuff
05-06-2010, 07:55 PM
There have been equally bad busts .... but none worse.

I'm with b-steven though, hard to make fun of a guy who beat us like he did.


The bad news here is ... obviously the Raiders have somebody with a brain in charge now. Couple weeks ago they picked up Campbell for a song, so even though this is pretty funny, fact is they're a better team now than they were on draft day.

Dedhed
05-06-2010, 08:03 PM
Leaf still gets my vote. Russell and Marinovich faded quietly into their goodnight's. The arrogance with which Leaf flamed out was on an epic scale that has never been matched.

jhns
05-06-2010, 08:07 PM
NO Et WuZ AlF0nZ0 $m1TH i hat mCDUMMFASE

I went with this because I thought it was well done.

Bob's your Information Minister
05-06-2010, 08:35 PM
Leaf was a bigger bust. I don't think I'll ever see anything like the 1-completion game he put up at Arrowhead ever again.

Russell actually beat the Chiefs, which makes me puke.

BigPlayShay
05-06-2010, 09:43 PM
Imagine if Jabba goes to the UFL, the NFL decides to invest in the UFL (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/19/report-ufl-wants-nfl-to-invest/), and when there is a lockout, Jabba comes back to the league as a scab.

Boobs McGee
05-06-2010, 11:16 PM
Leaf for me...I was going to do some stat searching, but I'll let the lazy man's encyclopedia do my arguing:


When they entered the 1998 draft, Manning and Leaf were widely considered to be the two best overall players in the draft.<SUP id=cite_ref-Pac-10_8-1 class=reference>[9] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Pac-10-8)</SUP> The San Diego Chargers held the third pick of the draft, but made a trade with the Arizona Cardinals (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) to guarantee their team would get one of the two quarterbacks. To move up to the second pick in the draft, the Chargers traded two first-round picks, a second-round pick, reserve linebacker Patrick Sapp and three-time Pro Bowler (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Pro_Bowl)Eric Metcalf (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Eric_Metcalf).<SUP id=cite_ref-Metcalf_10-0 class=reference>[11] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Metcalf-10)</SUP>
There was some debate leading up to the draft as to whether Leaf or Manning should be selected first.<SUP id=cite_ref-Coach_11-0 class=reference>[12] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Coach-11)</SUP> At 6-foot-5 and 240 pounds, Leaf was bigger and stronger, and many saw him as the better choice.<SUP id=cite_ref-Successful_1-1 class=reference>[2] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Successful-1)</SUP> Others believed that Manning was the more mature player and thus the top choice. Differences in potential between the two seemed small enough, however, that most observers expected it would not greatly matter whether a team selected Manning or Leaf.<SUP id=cite_ref-Pac-10_8-2 class=reference>[9] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Pac-10-8)</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-Sherrington_12-0 class=reference>[13] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Sherrington-12)</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-Finney_13-0 class=reference>[14] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Finney-13)</SUP>
On draft day, Manning was selected first by the Colts and Leaf second by the San Diego Chargers (http://orangemane.com/wiki/San_Diego_Chargers). Notable future NFL quarterbacks selected later in the draft included Brian Griese (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Brian_Griese), Charlie Batch (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Charlie_Batch), and Matt Hasselbeck (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Matt_Hasselbeck). Following the draft, the Chargers signed Leaf to a four-year contract worth $ (http://orangemane.com/wiki/United_States_dollar)31.25 million, including a guaranteed $11.25 million signing bonus (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Signing_bonus). It was, at the time, the largest signing bonus ever paid to a rookie (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Rookie).<SUP id=cite_ref-Signingbonus_14-0 class=reference>[15] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Signingbonus-14)</SUP> Shortly after being drafted, Leaf declared, "I'm looking forward to a 15 year career, a couple of trips to the Super Bowl (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Super_Bowl), and a parade through downtown San Diego (http://orangemane.com/wiki/San_Diego)."<SUP id=cite_ref-Prediction_15-0 class=reference>[16] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Prediction-15)</SUP>
NFL career

San Diego Chargers

San Diego's high hopes for Leaf were soon dashed, as his rookie season (http://orangemane.com/wiki/1998_NFL_season) was marked by poor performances. Before the season started, Leaf was fined for skipping a symposium (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Symposium) that was mandatory for all newly drafted players.<SUP id=cite_ref-symposium_16-0 class=reference>[17] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-symposium-16)</SUP>
In the third game of the season, Leaf completed one of fifteen passes for 4 yards and fumbled (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Fumble) three times in a loss against the Kansas City Chiefs (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Kansas_City_Chiefs).<SUP id=cite_ref-fouryards_17-0 class=reference>[18] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-fouryards-17)</SUP> He was benched after throwing two touchdown passes and thirteen interceptions (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Interception) in nine games, and replaced by Craig Whelihan (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Craig_Whelihan).<SUP id=cite_ref-Whelihan_18-0 class=reference>[19] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Whelihan-18)</SUP> After ten games, Leaf had thrown two more interceptions, passing for a total of 1,289 yards, with a 45.3 percent completion rate and a passer rating (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Passer_rating) of 39.<SUP id=cite_ref-statstwo_19-0 class=reference>[20] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-statstwo-19)</SUP>
Leaf had poor relationships with the media (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Mass_media) and his teammates.<SUP id=cite_ref-Successful_1-2 class=reference>[2] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Successful-1)</SUP> In one infamous locker room incident during Leaf's rookie year, he was caught on-camera screaming at San Diego Union Tribune (http://orangemane.com/wiki/San_Diego_Union_Tribune) reporter Jay Posner, "Just ****ing don't talk to me, all right! Knock it off!" and had to be physically restrained by teammate Junior Seau (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Junior_Seau). Another on-camera incident involved Leaf confronting a heckling (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Heckle) Chargers fan during a practice session.<SUP id=cite_ref-Coach_11-1 class=reference>[12] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Coach-11)</SUP> Two coaches had to restrain Leaf and escort him off the field.
Leaf missed his entire second season because of a shoulder injury discovered during a preseason physical. <SUP id=cite_ref-Elway_20-0 class=reference>[21] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Elway-20)</SUP> He was placed on injured reserve (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Injured_reserve) but made headlines for getting into a heated shouting match with Chargers general manager Bobby Beathard (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Bobby_Beathard) and another coach. The incident resulted in a fine, a suspension without pay, and Leaf apologizing four weeks later.<SUP id=cite_ref-Argument_21-0 class=reference>[22] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Argument-21)</SUP><SUP id=cite_ref-Apologized_22-0 class=reference>[23] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Apologized-22)</SUP> Leaf also allegedly lied about a hand injury to get out of practice so he could play golf instead.<SUP id=cite_ref-Harrison_23-0 class=reference>[24] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Harrison-23)</SUP> His suspension did not end his off the field troubles. While serving his four-game suspension, a video surfaced of Leaf playing flag football in Ocean Beach (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Ocean_Beach,_San_Diego,_California), California (http://orangemane.com/wiki/California) while he was supposed to be rehabilitating his injured shoulder and wrist. After the video surfaced, the Chargers filed a grievance against Leaf, citing a breach of contract (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Breach_of_contract) for participating in activities detrimental to the team. The Chargers sought to recover $2.95 million of his $11.25 million signing bonus, as well as use the incident as leverage to shorten the length of his contract.<SUP id=cite_ref-contract_24-0 class=reference>[25] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-contract-24)</SUP> Despite the turmoil between Leaf and the Chargers front office, Leaf would remain with the Chargers into the 2000 season.
Leaf started the first two games of the 2000 season (http://orangemane.com/wiki/2000_NFL_season), only to complete less than half of his pass attempts, and throw for five interceptions and one touchdown. When backup Moses Moreno (http://orangemane.com/wiki/Moses_Moreno) went down with a strained knee ligament, the Chargers gave Leaf more playing time. However, he injured his wrist while throwing an interception in a week four game and did not play again until week eleven.<SUP id=cite_ref-Elway_20-1 class=reference>[21] (http://orangemane.com/BB/#cite_note-Elway-20)</SUP> Following more poor performances and injury problems, he was released by the Chargers after the season, with four wins as a starter in three years.

Supreme and epic fail.

It's actually kind of sad that he's now starting to take ownership and pride in his biggest bust ever status. Kind of takes the fun out of it :(
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Cito Pelon
05-07-2010, 08:55 AM
After reading this thread and doing some research at pro-football-reference.com, I'll go with Leaf.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LeafRy00.htm

Leaf rates as 9553rd since 1950.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RussJa00.htm

Russell rates as 7062nd since 1950.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CoucTi00.htm

Tim Couch rates as 3104th since 1950.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CarrDa00.htm

David Carr rates as 1807th since 1950.

That sure is a massive difference between Russell and Leaf.

DrFate
05-07-2010, 10:13 AM
I'm not sure I understand why this is still a debate...

Leaf was the #2 pick, Jabba-marcus the #1

Leaf was bad, but I think Russell is worse, at a higher pick, for more money

Leaf had some issues with a wrist injury as well

Mandarich had a decent career once he moved to guard - he was never the player we were promised, but he did play for 8 or 9 years

DenverBrit
05-07-2010, 10:29 AM
Following the draft, the Chargers signed Ryan Leaf to a four-year contract worth $31.25 million, including a guaranteed $11.25 million signing bonus. It was, at the time, the largest signing bonus ever paid to a rookie.[15] Shortly after being drafted, Leaf declared, "I'm looking forward to a 15 year career, a couple of trips to the Super Bowl, and a parade through downtown San Diego."


Russell held out through training camp and the first weeks of the 2007 NFL season, until September 12, 2007, when he signed a six-year contract worth up to $68 million, with $31.5 million guaranteed

Exactly why Russell is the biggest bust.

31 million reasons why.

bronco militia
05-07-2010, 10:39 AM
Leaf is number for this reason:

When they entered the 1998 draft, Manning and Leaf were widely considered to be the two best overall players in the draft.[9] The San Diego Chargers held the third pick of the draft, but made a trade with the Arizona Cardinals to guarantee their team would get one of the two quarterbacks. To move up to the second pick in the draft, the Chargers traded two first-round picks, a second-round pick, reserve linebacker Patrick Sapp and three-time Pro Bowler Eric Metcalf.[11]

Rabb
05-07-2010, 11:05 AM
you cannot make money part of the equation though because there is almost a 10 year difference between the two drafts and a lot changes with salary in that time

Russell's career stats (3 years): Drafted 1st overall, 4,083 yards, 52.1% completion, 18 touchdowns to 23 INTs, career passer rating of 65.2, 175 yards rushing with 1 TD, 25 fumbles (ouch), 11-25 overall win/loss record

Leaf's career stats (4 years): Drafted 2nd overall, 3,666 yards, 48.4% completion, 14 touchdowns to 36 INTs, career passer rating of 50.0, 127 yards rushing with 0 TDs, 24 fumbles, 5-20 overall win/loss record (one of those 5 he didn't start)

sorry, it's not even close...I truly think Russell will at least continue on with his career and while he definitely isn't worth what the Silver and Black criminals paid him, he won't even touch the legacy that Leaf is still building off the field with his drug convictions

400HZ
05-07-2010, 11:14 AM
Leaf is always #1 in my mind.

Rabb
05-07-2010, 11:34 AM
Can you even comprehend what life would be like had Manning been skipped for Leaf and then Manning end up in San Diego?

Ambiguous
05-07-2010, 11:51 AM
Can you even comprehend what life would be like had Manning been skipped for Leaf and then Manning end up in San Diego?

Oh god, horrible. They at least never would have got LT, although I don't think that would have made much of a difference.

Arkie
05-07-2010, 03:49 PM
The Raiders paid Russell $113,000 per completion.

PRBronco
05-07-2010, 05:45 PM
Did anyone post this yet? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1005/nfl.jamarcus.russell.hype/content.1.html?eref=sihp

Check out the 3rd slide, Mel Kiper's take is ****ing hilarious.

Drunk Monkey
05-07-2010, 07:06 PM
Leaf is number for this reason:

When they entered the 1998 draft, Manning and Leaf were widely considered to be the two best overall players in the draft.[9] The San Diego Chargers held the third pick of the draft, but made a trade with the Arizona Cardinals to guarantee their team would get one of the two quarterbacks. To move up to the second pick in the draft, the Chargers traded two first-round picks, a second-round pick, reserve linebacker Patrick Sapp and three-time Pro Bowler Eric Metcalf.[11]

This, anytime you give up that much for someone they better pan out. That's more than we got for Cutler, a prow bowl QB (sort of).

baja
05-07-2010, 08:11 PM
Who was that bust of a DE in Seattle that promised to take out Elway?

DenverBrit
05-07-2010, 08:44 PM
Did anyone post this yet? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1005/nfl.jamarcus.russell.hype/content.1.html?eref=sihp

Check out the 3rd slide, Mel Kiper's take is ****ing hilarious.

"JaMarcus Russell is going to immediately energize that fanbase, that football team -- on the practice field, in that locker room. Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that's certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. ...You're talking about a 2-3 year period once he's under center. Look out because the skill level that he has is certainly John Elway-like."

-- ESPN's Mel Kiper

bronco militia
05-07-2010, 08:55 PM
"JaMarcus Russell is going to immediately energize that fanbase, that football team -- on the practice field, in that locker room. Three years from now you could be looking at a guy that's certainly one of the elite top five quarterbacks in this league. ...You're talking about a 2-3 year period once he's under center. Look out because the skill level that he has is certainly John Elway-like."

-- ESPN's Mel Kiper

jamarcus Elway!

Rabb
05-08-2010, 07:59 AM
Who was that bust of a DE in Seattle that promised to take out Elway?

Bosworth?

WolfpackGuy
05-08-2010, 08:17 AM
Has to be Leaf because SD traded the farm to move up from 2 to 3 for a player the Cards weren't going to draft anyway! (They had Plummer.)

Mandarich has to be right up there too. Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas, and Deion Sanders were drafted immediately after him.

DenverBrit
05-08-2010, 09:44 AM
you cannot make money part of the equation though because there is almost a 10 year difference between the two drafts and a lot changes with salary in that time

Russell's career stats (3 years): Drafted 1st overall, 4,083 yards, 52.1% completion, 18 touchdowns to 23 INTs, career passer rating of 65.2, 175 yards rushing with 1 TD, 25 fumbles (ouch), 11-25 overall win/loss record

Leaf's career stats (4 years): Drafted 2nd overall, 3,666 yards, 48.4% completion, 14 touchdowns to 36 INTs, career passer rating of 50.0, 127 yards rushing with 0 TDs, 24 fumbles, 5-20 overall win/loss record (one of those 5 he didn't start)

sorry, it's not even close...I truly think Russell will at least continue on with his career and while he definitely isn't worth what the Silver and Black criminals paid him, he won't even touch the legacy that Leaf is still building off the field with his drug convictions

I was thinking with my wallet again. ;D

But anytime an AFC West rival wets the bed like they did with Leaf and Russell, it's all good.

Circle Orange
05-08-2010, 11:57 AM
Biggest bust? I dunno, I'd rate 'em about a C cup. But flat and flabby, like pancakes. :clown:

Word is that JaTubby gets butter with his rolls. http://scosoft.com/s/Sport/24ac623e.gif

broncocalijohn
04-14-2011, 10:09 PM
UPDATE: I think the dude is completely done.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_jamarcus_russell_wastes_another_chance_041411

oubronco
04-15-2011, 07:20 AM
He probably doesn't have a penny left of his millions

Kaylore
04-15-2011, 07:58 AM
UPDATE: I think the dude is completely done.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_jamarcus_russell_wastes_another_chance_041411

Gotta love when your life coach quits on you.

BroncoBuff
04-20-2011, 09:01 PM
Something tells me lots of guys would lose their zest for football once they have $28 million in their pockets ....

Especially when it's free and clear, and not like Rickey Williams money ...

Especially when it's the black hole, and they can't afford real coaches,so they hire guys who fist-fight brawl in the film room ....

Especially when it's the the black hole, where they moronically overpay massive mints for Tommie Kelly, Gibril Wilson, Ja-van down-by-the-river Walker, Sebastian Can'o'kraut-ski, and several others that don't spring to mind at this moment. Even your humble BroncoBuff could have GM'd them to the best passing attack in the NFL in 2006-07.

BroncoBuff
04-20-2011, 09:01 PM
Oh, and biggest bust?

Nobody failed as bad as this load:


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/2000/bowls/news/2000/12/27/motorcity_gamer_ap/t1_toviessi_ap-01.jpg
Name that Load

broncocalijohn
04-20-2011, 09:03 PM
Especially when it's the the black hole, where they moronically overpay massive mints for Tommie Kelly, Gibril Wilson, Ja-van down-by-the-river Walker, Sebastian Can'o'kraut-ski, and several others that don't spring to mind at this moment. Even your humble BroncoBuff could have GM'd them to the best passing attack in the NFL in 2006-07.

I dont know. You would find a way to pay $28 million to Chris Simms.

NUB
04-20-2011, 10:11 PM
Leaf was actually worth more as a pick as the Chargers idiotically traded up one spot to get him.

Leaf is a bigger bust not only because he failed miserably, but because how he did it. I mean the dude flamed out hard. Russell busted quietly without any drama. Leaf was yelling at everybody and screaming at the world as his ego imploded in front of everyone. It was spectacular. Beautiful, even.

BroncoBuff
04-21-2011, 07:44 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/2000/bowls/news/2000/12/27/motorcity_gamer_ap/t1_toviessi_ap-01.jpg
Name that Load


This guy failed so horribly, until I Googled this pic I though he was white.

51st pick overall.

BroncoInferno
04-21-2011, 07:50 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/2000/bowls/news/2000/12/27/motorcity_gamer_ap/t1_toviessi_ap-01.jpg
Name that Load


This guy failed so horribly, until I Googled this pic I though he was white.

51st pick overall.

Is that Toviessi? I thought he was white, too!

BroncoBuff
04-21-2011, 07:56 AM
Is that Toviessi? I thought he was white, too!

Yup, glad to see I wasn't the only one ...

Khan, I used to think Toviessi could have grown into a Justin Bannan type. But now I don't know.

jhns
04-21-2011, 08:05 AM
McDaniels was easily the biggest bust ever.

Pony Boy
04-21-2011, 08:23 AM
Honorable Mention

Drunk Monkey
04-21-2011, 09:02 AM
Honorable Mention

He actually had a few productive seasons. He failed by not living up to the hype, which was almost impossable.

TheReverend
04-21-2011, 09:09 AM
He actually had a few productive seasons. He failed by not living up to the hype, which was almost impossable.

...actually he only had a few SEASONS. Period.

His rookie year was the only that could be considered productive. By his 3rd NFL season he played a couple games and his career was over.

Effing Tony Mandarich had a better careers