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mizzoutigers
04-28-2010, 08:21 AM
Carroll also gushed about a first-round quarterback on whom the Seahawks passed, not once but twice. "I think anybody that got Tim Tebow had a good draft because I think he's going to surprise everybody," Carroll said. "And I think he's going to be a fantastic addition to a team. There's another guy that we would have really liked to have been able to add for the future because of what he brings. He will not let these issues about throwing motions and things be in the way. He will will his way through that if he's anything at all like I know."

The Seahawks coach likewise heaped praise on former Minnesota Golden Gophers receiver Eric Decker. "Very, very good receiver," Carroll said, "and we have a guy [previously] on that [Minnesota] staff, Jedd Fisch, who coached him and we knew all about him and really were hoping to get a chance to get him, too."

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 08:24 AM
just great...I think Carroll is a moron

TheReverend
04-28-2010, 08:30 AM
just great...I think Carroll is a moron

Hey! What the hell, man?

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 08:34 AM
Hey! What the hell, man?

I can't stand Pete Carroll. I love the Tebow and Decker picks

Kaylore
04-28-2010, 08:37 AM
I can't stand Pete Carroll.
That doesn't mean he's wrong.

mizzoutigers
04-28-2010, 08:41 AM
I agree Kaylore, not particularly fond of Carroll myself, but I do think his take is of a different perspective given that he just left as a college coach and is in the know with these kids and coaches around the country (i.e. Decker).

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 08:41 AM
That doesn't mean he's wrong.

hopefully not this time

TheReverend
04-28-2010, 08:41 AM
I can't stand Pete Carroll. I love the Tebow and Decker picks

Good guy, man. What's not to like?

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chex
04-28-2010, 08:48 AM
Carroll also gushed about a first-round quarterback on whom the Seahawks passed, not once but twice. "I think anybody that got Tim Tebow had a good draft because I think he's going to surprise everybody," Carroll said. "And I think he's going to be a fantastic addition to a team. There's another guy that we would have really liked to have been able to add for the future because of what he brings. He will not let these issues about throwing motions and things be in the way. He will will his way through that if he's anything at all like I know."

The Seahawks coach likewise heaped praise on former Minnesota Golden Gophers receiver Eric Decker. "Very, very good receiver," Carroll said, "and we have a guy [previously] on that [Minnesota] staff, Jedd Fisch, who coached him and we knew all about him and really were hoping to get a chance to get him, too."

What was the context of this? Was he for some reason asked about our draft in particular, or was this an unsolicited assessment?

mizzoutigers
04-28-2010, 08:51 AM
unsolicited, he was on chris russo "mad dog" radio being interviewed and was just freely speaking about other kids in the draft

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 08:54 AM
Pete Carroll talks Clausen, Tebow, Decker

Posted by Mike Florio on April 28, 2010 9:15 AM ET
Now that I'm back in front of the radiation-blasting double-monitor PFT hookup, I'm scanning back through recent e-mails in search of stuff about which you may be interested.

And, somehow, I found one that hasn't already been covered by Rosenthal and/or MDS.

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll recently spoke with Chris Russo of Sirius Mad Dog Radio. The noteworthy portions of the discussion focused more on players not on Carroll's new team than those whom he acquired over the recently-completed draft weekend.

Asked whether the Seahawks may have taken quarterback Jimmy Clausen if he'd still been on the board when Seattle used the 60th overall pick, Carroll said, "Sure, that's real possible. Yeah, we liked him that much. We thought he was a good player and that he was going to be solid as a rock and it wasn't going to be a big transition for him and all that kind of stuff."

Carroll also gushed about a first-round quarterback on whom the Seahawks passed, not once but twice. "I think anybody that got Tim Tebow had a good draft because I think he's going to surprise everybody," Carroll said. "And I think he's going to be a fantastic addition to a team. There's another guy that we would have really liked to have been able to add for the future because of what he brings. He will not let these issues about throwing motions and things be in the way. He will will his way through that if he's anything at all like I know."

The Seahawks coach likewise heaped praise on former Minnesota Golden Gophers receiver Eric Decker. "Very, very good receiver," Carroll said, "and we have a guy [previously] on that [Minnesota] staff, Jedd Fisch, who coached him and we knew all about him and really were hoping to get a chance to get him, too."

Carroll possibly is using Jon Gruden's patent-pending positivity approach, aimed at giving no one a reason to be upset with Seattle's first-year coach. It's also possible that Carroll genuinely covets each guy he mentioned, and that he wants each of them to know that, at some point in the future, Seattle could be an option.

Regardless of Carroll's motivation, the possibility of planting a seed in a player's mind regarding future possibilities requires Carroll to quit talking about players who are the property of other franchises. Though it's not a blatant example of tampering, it's the kind of talk that could (and perhaps should) anger the Panthers and/or Broncos.

If, for example, Clausen doesn't play as a rookie and Matt Moore cements his hold on the starting job in Carolina, Carroll's comments could make Clausen even less content in Charlotte, possibly prompting him to push for a trade to Seattle. Ditto for Decker, who now knows that Fisch and Carroll think highly of him in the event that the Broncos don't give him the kind of reps and receptions that Decker thinks he deserves.

Our guess is that Carroll won't receive a public knuckle-rapping for his comments, but we suspect that someone from the league office will be reminding him in clear terms that he needs to stop talking about how much he would have liked to have on his team players who are now legally bound to other NFL franchises.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/28/pete-carroll-talks-clausen-tebow-decker/

PRBronco
04-28-2010, 09:05 AM
Carroll reminds me of a hip high school counsellor who would sit in a chair backwards, or sit on his deck, put one knee up and say "hey guys, let's rap, what's on your mind?"

But he likes two of the Broncos, so I don't hate him.

SonOfLe-loLang
04-28-2010, 09:15 AM
just great...I think Carroll is a moron

I bet the only reason you say this is because he coached at USC and everyone hates SoCal?

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 09:16 AM
I bet the only reason you say this is because he coached at USC and everyone hates SoCal?

nahhh...he was douche in New england too.

Dos Rios
04-28-2010, 09:39 AM
Carroll reminds me of a hip high school counsellor who would sit in a chair backwards, or sit on his deck, put one knee up and say "hey guys, let's rap, what's on your mind?"

But he likes two of the Broncos, so I don't hate him.


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baja
04-28-2010, 09:57 AM
I can't stand Pete Carroll. I love the Tebow and Decker picks

I am truly shocked you like the tebow pick.

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 09:59 AM
I am truly shocked you like the tebow pick.

why? it's just more ammo for us that think the Neckbeard sucks ;D

supermanhr9
04-28-2010, 10:01 AM
With every passign day, I am more and more excited about Tebow. I wish I was in town so I coudl watch Mini-camps, see if he can hack it at all.

Smiling Assassin27
04-28-2010, 10:02 AM
Carroll doesn't seem particularly forthcoming here since he's in love with EVERYONE. Did he criticize a single player?

baja
04-28-2010, 10:03 AM
why? it's just more ammo for us that think the Neckbeard sucks ;D

"Neckbeard" will make the probowl this year and we will franchise him and trade him for a first round pick.

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 10:04 AM
"Neckbeard" will make the probowl this year and we will franchise him and trade him for a first round pick.

:spit:

Requiem
04-28-2010, 10:04 AM
It's always nice to hear other coaches and talent evaluators speaking highly of players we have selected. Decker was one of my favorite selections. If it wasn't for the concerns regarding his injury (injuries) -- I'd say he'd of been a Top 64 lock. I'm so glad we got 'em.

baja
04-28-2010, 10:05 AM
Than we will start Quinn in 2011 and trade him for a 1st rd pick and start Tebow mid 2011.

ChSuperStar
04-28-2010, 10:33 AM
I am truly shocked you like the tebow pick.

i like the tebow pick as well.. but i dont like what it costed us. I wanted him for just for 3rd round pick only. But his personality is good to have, still doubt how well he will adjust as QB in NFL.

Kaylore
04-28-2010, 10:46 AM
it's the kind of talk that could (and perhaps should) anger the Panthers and/or Broncos.
Yes, Florio. Because nothing pisses another team off more than saying you like their players. I'm sure Xanders and McDaniels are planning on flying to Seattle this weekend, so they can toilet paper Carroll's house.

Shoemaker
04-28-2010, 10:48 AM
i like the tebow pick as well.. but i dont like what it costed us. I wanted him for just for 3rd round pick only. But his personality is good to have, still doubt how well he will adjust as QB in NFL.

There's not a chance in the world that Tebow would have been there in the 3rd round. In fact, despite Old Man Wilson's denials, I doubt he would have even made it out of the first round (Buffalo, Minnesota, or NE would have grabbed him).

Honestly, I'm not sure if McDaniels would have traded back at all if he wasn't targeting Thomas and Tebow. Trading back and then forward was what enabled us to grab Thomas, Tebow, and Decker with the extra 3rd we got.

I understand not liking how many picks we gave up for Tebow. But would you have preferred it if we had picked up Thomas with the 11th pick, Tebow with the 43rd (had he been there), and not had the extra 3rd to get Decker?

chex
04-28-2010, 10:58 AM
There's not a chance in the world that Tebow would have been there in the 3rd round. In fact, despite Old Man Wilson's denials, I doubt he would have even made it out of the first round (Buffalo, Minnesota, or NE would have grabbed him).

Honestly, I'm not sure if McDaniels would have traded back at all if he wasn't targeting Thomas and Tebow. Trading back and then forward was what enabled us to grab Thomas, Tebow, and Decker with the extra 3rd we got.

I understand not liking how many picks we gave up for Tebow. But would you have preferred it if we had picked up Thomas with the 11th pick, Tebow with the 43rd (had he been there), and not had the extra 3rd to get Decker?

Perfect.

ChSuperStar
04-28-2010, 11:15 AM
There's not a chance in the world that Tebow would have been there in the 3rd round. In fact, despite Old Man Wilson's denials, I doubt he would have even made it out of the first round (Buffalo, Minnesota, or NE would have grabbed him).

Honestly, I'm not sure if McDaniels would have traded back at all if he wasn't targeting Thomas and Tebow. Trading back and then forward was what enabled us to grab Thomas, Tebow, and Decker with the extra 3rd we got.

I understand not liking how many picks we gave up for Tebow. But would you have preferred it if we had picked up Thomas with the 11th pick, Tebow with the 43rd (had he been there), and not had the extra 3rd to get Decker?

I agree with what you are saying, no 11 on just a WR would have been bad. And may be there was a team looking to trade up to take tebow. But tebow was not a real need, so when i take that into consideration.. we need not have given back 3 picks to grab him where we did. We could have solved most of the other areas (DT, CB, ILB) which will be need next year. And since the QB class next year is expected to be better we could have drafted one next year. So having addressed most of the needs would have been a priority over taking a pick for his other abilities than his skill as a QB. But i again say, he will be a great locker room guy.. with that ability to punch in from yard and 2 yards out for TD which we lacked last year and year before

Just that i am not against tebow, but i would have taken a need player or two with the other picks if i had tebow for cheap

Shoemaker
04-28-2010, 11:26 AM
I agree with what you are saying, no 11 on just a WR would have been bad. And may be there was a team looking to trade up to take tebow. But tebow was not a real need, so when i take that into consideration.. we need not have given back 3 picks to grab him where we did. We could have solved most of the other areas (DT, CB, ILB) which will be need next year. And since the QB class next year is expected to be better we could have drafted one next year. So having addressed most of the needs would have been a priority over taking a pick for his other abilities than his skill as a QB. But i again say, he will be a great locker room guy.. with that ability to punch in from yard and 2 yards out for TD which we lacked last year and year before

Just that i am not against tebow, but i would have taken a need player or two with the other picks if i had tebow for cheap

That's very true. Its certainly a fair argument that the extra picks we had from trading down could have been used to addressed other positions in a deep draft, rather than packaged to pick up a project QB.

I guess the way I see it is, we would never have had those picks in the first place if we weren't going to get Tebow. I don't think Josh's intention was ever to trade down just to stockpile picks and see who falls to us; he was always trying to get ammunition to jump back into the 1st round and get his man.

So I don't really see the extra picks we grabbed as potential players that we missed out on. I see them as Josh stockpiling a little "Tebow fund" that he was always going to use to get Tim.

But I definitely see where you're coming from. And I would have been much more upset about using those picks to get Tebow IF we hadn't addressed our pressing needs quite well in days 2 and 3.

bowtown
04-28-2010, 11:29 AM
It's also possible that Carroll genuinely covets each guy he mentioned, and that he wants each of them to know that, at some point in the future, Seattle could be an option.

Regardless of Carroll's motivation, the possibility of planting a seed in a player's mind regarding future possibilities requires Carroll to quit talking about players who are the property of other franchises. Though it's not a blatant example of tampering, it's the kind of talk that could (and perhaps should) anger the Panthers and/or Broncos.

If, for example, Clausen doesn't play as a rookie and Matt Moore cements his hold on the starting job in Carolina, Carroll's comments could make Clausen even less content in Charlotte, possibly prompting him to push for a trade to Seattle. Ditto for Decker, who now knows that Fisch and Carroll think highly of him in the event that the Broncos don't give him the kind of reps and receptions that Decker thinks he deserves.

Our guess is that Carroll won't receive a public knuckle-rapping for his comments, but we suspect that someone from the league office will be reminding him in clear terms that he needs to stop talking about how much he would have liked to have on his team players who are now legally bound to other NFL franchises.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/28/pete-carroll-talks-clausen-tebow-decker/

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*WARHORSE*
04-28-2010, 11:30 AM
Well I dont care for Pete Carroll the NFL coach. But I hope hes right.

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 11:31 AM
Our guess is that Carroll won't receive a public knuckle-rapping for his comments, but we suspect that someone from the league office will be reminding him in clear terms that he needs to stop talking about how much he would have liked to have on his team players who are now legally bound to other NFL franchises.

f'n dumbass Florio...none of these players have signed an NFL contract yet

Paladin
04-28-2010, 11:36 AM
Question: How many Rookies and FAs do you need to turn over each year? The only possible "need" position not addressed this offseason was ILB. And I don't know if one would have been available (that the FO liked) if they had kept all the picks.

Given the totality of the situation, I think the use of the picks was outstanding. There will always be players that someone will have wished they could have seen the Broncos darafted. But they drafted players that can make some differences fot the Broncos this year.

HEAV
04-28-2010, 11:41 AM
just great...I think Carroll is a moron


Not sure if a coach, that won 97 games, a national championship and has had 53 of his players drafted by the NFL, can be called an idiot. But again you are the internet and you know all...


Current active roster players in the NFL from Pete

Sam Baker Atlanta Falcons Offensive Tackle
Darnell Bing Houston Texans Linebacker
John David Booty Houston Texans Quarterback
Charles Brown New Orleans Saints Offensive Tackle
David Buehler Dallas Cowboys Place kicker
Reggie Bush New Orleans Saints Running Back
Dominique Byrd Arizona Cardinals Tight End
Matt Cassel Kansas City Chiefs Quarterback
Shaun Cody Houston Texans Defensive Tackle
Brian Cushing Houston Texans Linebacker
Fred Davis Washington Redskins Tight End
Sedrick Ellis New Orleans Saints Defensive Tackle
Kevin Ellison San Diego Chargers Safety
Everson Griffen Minnesota Vikings Defensive End
Cary Harris Buffalo Bills Cornerback
Lawrence Jackson Seattle Seahawks Defensive End
Dwayne Jarrett Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver
Winston Justice Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Tackle
Ryan Kalil Carolina Panthers Center
Matt Leinart Arizona Cardinals Quarterback
Kaluka Maiava Cleveland Browns Linebacker
Tom Malone Seattle Seahawks Punter
Clay Matthews Green Bay Packers Linebacker
Rey Maualuga Cincinnati Bengals Linebacker
Taylor Mays San Francisco 49ers Safety
Anthony McCoy Seattle Seahawks Tight End
Joe McKnight New York Jets Running Back
Fili Moala Indianapolis Colts Defensive Tackle
Kyle Moore Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive End
Carson Palmer Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback
Mike Patterson Philadelphia Eagles Defensive Tackle
Troy Polamalu Pittsburgh Steelers Safety
Ryan Powdrell Seattle Seahawks Fullback
Chilo Rachal San Francisco 49ers Guard
Drew Radovich Minnesota Vikings Offensive Tackle
Keith Rivers Cincinnati Bengals Linebacker
Frostee Rucker Cincinnati Bengals Defensive End
Mark Sanchez New York Jets Quarterback
Steve Smith New York Giants Wide Receiver
Lofa Tatupu Seattle Seahawks Linebacker
Kevin Thomas Indianapolis Colts Cornerback
Terrell Thomas New York Giants Cornerback
Patrick Turner Miami Dolphins Wide Receiver
Chauncey Washington New York Jets Running Back
LenDale White Seattle Seahawks Running Back
Damian Williams Tennessee Titans Wide Receiver
Mike Williams Seattle Seahawks Wide Receiver
Thomas Williams New England Patriots Linebacker


The guy has an eye for talent.

bronco militia
04-28-2010, 11:42 AM
Not sure if a coach, that won 97 games, a national championship and has had 53 of his players drafted by the NFL, can be called an idiot. But again you are the internet and you know all...


Current active roster players in the NFL from Pete

Sam Baker Atlanta Falcons Offensive Tackle
Darnell Bing Houston Texans Linebacker
John David Booty Houston Texans Quarterback
Charles Brown New Orleans Saints Offensive Tackle
David Buehler Dallas Cowboys Place kicker
Reggie Bush New Orleans Saints Running Back
Dominique Byrd Arizona Cardinals Tight End
Matt Cassel Kansas City Chiefs Quarterback
Shaun Cody Houston Texans Defensive Tackle
Brian Cushing Houston Texans Linebacker
Fred Davis Washington Redskins Tight End
Sedrick Ellis New Orleans Saints Defensive Tackle
Kevin Ellison San Diego Chargers Safety
Everson Griffen Minnesota Vikings Defensive End
Cary Harris Buffalo Bills Cornerback
Lawrence Jackson Seattle Seahawks Defensive End
Dwayne Jarrett Carolina Panthers Wide Receiver
Winston Justice Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Tackle
Ryan Kalil Carolina Panthers Center
Matt Leinart Arizona Cardinals Quarterback
Kaluka Maiava Cleveland Browns Linebacker
Tom Malone Seattle Seahawks Punter
Clay Matthews Green Bay Packers Linebacker
Rey Maualuga Cincinnati Bengals Linebacker
Taylor Mays San Francisco 49ers Safety
Anthony McCoy Seattle Seahawks Tight End
Joe McKnight New York Jets Running Back
Fili Moala Indianapolis Colts Defensive Tackle
Kyle Moore Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive End
Carson Palmer Cincinnati Bengals Quarterback
Mike Patterson Philadelphia Eagles Defensive Tackle
Troy Polamalu Pittsburgh Steelers Safety
Ryan Powdrell Seattle Seahawks Fullback
Chilo Rachal San Francisco 49ers Guard
Drew Radovich Minnesota Vikings Offensive Tackle
Keith Rivers Cincinnati Bengals Linebacker
Frostee Rucker Cincinnati Bengals Defensive End
Mark Sanchez New York Jets Quarterback
Steve Smith New York Giants Wide Receiver
Lofa Tatupu Seattle Seahawks Linebacker
Kevin Thomas Indianapolis Colts Cornerback
Terrell Thomas New York Giants Cornerback
Patrick Turner Miami Dolphins Wide Receiver
Chauncey Washington New York Jets Running Back
LenDale White Seattle Seahawks Running Back
Damian Williams Tennessee Titans Wide Receiver
Mike Williams Seattle Seahawks Wide Receiver
Thomas Williams New England Patriots Linebacker


The guy has an eye for talent.

and deep pocketsHa!

HEAV
04-28-2010, 11:51 AM
and deep pocketsHa!

True;D

Which is why he left USC to fry under the NCAA investigation. Good luck with that Lane Kiffin!