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Archer81
06-07-2012, 01:24 AM
I have read through this thread every time it gets bumped. Seeing the pitfalls that befell mcfoneco/champ. Moving to a strange state, leaving a solid job in a **** economy, raising someone else's daughter. Marrying the hideous bandersnatch. Letting strangers move into your house when you have a newborn. Finding out one of the strangers painted the back of your wife's uterus, letting said uterine painter live in the same house with you for over a month, getting beat like a rented mule in front of the stepdaughter, running to a phone (seriously man, even gay dudes would throw a punch in that situation) and finally ending up with custody of your (maybe) daughter.

I thank God ever day I am a fag. Seriously.

:Broncos:

Stuck in Cali
06-07-2012, 01:25 AM
Well in some ways this happened to a friend of mine almost 20yrs ago. Instead of the wife's lover living with them she was cheating behind his back. She thought she would get custody of the two very young at the time kids. But my buddy proved she was crazy bitch from Hell, awarded him custody and made her pay child support.

Best thing is, this was the best thing for the kids, mom just wanted to be free to do what she wanted. Father stepped up and raised two amazing children.

So if the story of the op is true, the child could still have an amazing life.

I know its not that similar, story just reminded me of things my friend went through.

Willynowei
06-07-2012, 02:13 AM
Wow. I was bored today, waiting for my new gig in China to start next week, so popped on the mane and actually read this whole ****ing thread.

OP, you are a ****ing retard, and even worse, you are a wimp.

You talk about how it was smart or the right decision to allow a man who ****ed your wife to live with you for a month, how he's ended up worse than you.

But all it says to me is you have no pride, no manhood.

1.) You allowed her to jerk you halfway across the country at the expense of your job.
2.) You showed her your advice thread on an internet website because you can't make a ****ing decision for yourself.
3.) You allowed her to mold your thoughts and turn you against the people you asked for advice from, in fact, whats worse, you allow her to turn you against your blood, your family!
4.) You probably were convinced to have a kid with her.
5.) You allow her to decide who moves into your house, paid for with your money, and I don't believe for a minute she doesn't regularly get drunk and go out in reckless fashion, so Kyle probably wasn't the first guy she cheated on you with. And you probably suspected this!
6.) You then let the guy who ****ed your wife in your house to live with you for a month. Citing how good it all turned out....

Look at yourself! Its like you were neutered at birth! Honestly? Its rarely a good idea, but beating the **** out of Kyle would actually show me you have some fight in you, that you can ****ing stand up for yourself and be a ****ing man.

Get some ****ing pride, then maybe you will get a woman that actually respects you, who can help you not **** up the one thing in your life that's worth anything - your child. Its that simple, am I being articulate? no. You don't deserve a nice, or articulate answer, you need to fully grasp how much you've already ****ed things up, how you've put your daughter into a tough situation, how much worse things could've been, and how hard it is for you to now take care of the little girl by yourself.

God I'm so sick of you. You deserve everything you got, only person i have any sympathy for in this entire thread is the Daughter, lord help her, she's got a psycho mom and ****ing retarded chimp as a father, who i sincerely hope can change into a real man in time to raise her.

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 05:29 AM
Kid could grow up to be president for all you know,

Let's not get carried away. Vegas odds on that? 100 billion:1. and that's being generous.

Queue Jim Carrey "so you're saying there's a chance" clip

alkemical
06-07-2012, 05:34 AM
There are people who are truly addicted to turmoil and will enable all kinds of ridiculous shiat at their own expense. I don't understand it one bit... but I'm no longer amazed at how incredibly predictable results like are allowed to happen. My wife and I are watching two comparably retarded scenarios in both of our families. You can predict the end result... try to intervene... demand to intervene... beg to intervene... and yet the result is as predictable as the rising sun.

Agree - had a relative get mixed up and make bad decisions - everything's working it self out now - but sheesh - sometimes dumb is dumb and the best thing you can do is hope they get smart sooner than later.

TheChamp24
06-07-2012, 05:40 AM
Oh how I love some of these responses, basically condemning my daughter already because I'm apparently not a suitable father for her by some folks on here.

As for my daughter, yes she is mine. She was conceived November 2010. Kyle entered the picture December 2011.

Also, if my ex is pregnant, it is not mine. Last time we did it was December 2011, and she wasn't pregnant last time I saw her in February.

I'm not worried about fighting, and throwing money, for forcing her to pay child support at the moment. What is crazy is she actually told me she plans on re-filing for custody, at which point she says she will win because the mother always wins. I'm sure the judge will award her custody after she already abandoned her child, and never put up a fight for her.

And by the way, I did stand up and was a man, I stood up for the one thing important in my life, my daughter, and ensured I would always be in her life, every day, shaping her to be a wonderful person.

I guess people think I should've duked it out with Kyle, nothing got resolved, and me potentially losing my daughter because I would now be deemed a violent person who isn't suitable for raising a child. People, you need to really think things through and sometimes, you gotta take one for the team to come out ahead.

I'm happy now raising my daughter, the best part of my day is when I go to pick her up from daycare and see the excited look on her face when I walk in the door. Let me tell you, NOTHING tops that.

Miss I.
06-07-2012, 06:04 AM
genuinely glad you're happy being a dad. I imagine that is what your demented ex was counting on, your chivalry and love of kids.

However you need to face the possibility that beautiful girl is not your kid and I say this not to be cruel but to be prepared. Your ex is clearly an unstable wackadoodle b**** who puts herself first and sluts around like a stray cat in heat. Therefore there is some probability she has cheated on you more than with King Neckbeard. Given this history and her history of being a horrible horrible person, she is going to try to take that kid back. At that point she may play the kid really isn't your kid card. Rather then ending up on Jerry Springer, take the lead and get the DNA test yourself. when it comes back as your kid then she can't play that kid and you have info you got, not that she made up. IF the kid is not yours then its better you find out now and not have b****y mcb**** spring it on you. It would suck, but better to deal with it now.

McDman
06-07-2012, 06:04 AM
If she cheated on you once there is a good chance she did it multiple times. I'm pretty sure paternity tests are fairly cheap.

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 06:06 AM
As for my daughter, yes she is mine. She was conceived November 2010. Kyle entered the picture December 2011.


The male population of the world apparently just went down from a few billion to 2.

Miss I.
06-07-2012, 06:08 AM
The male population of the world apparently just went down from a few billion to 2.

hey, so what are the guys on here then? are you guys really chicks? Dang...that blows....my mind...;D

also if those two are the only male choices, um...this will not end well.

That One Guy
06-07-2012, 06:10 AM
Oh how I love some of these responses, basically condemning my daughter already because I'm apparently not a suitable father for her by some folks on here.


It's possible things will get better and she'll turn out normal but I don't know many normal people that didn't come from a stable upbringing. For the duration of this thread, it sure seems like that's not quite been your situation. You can't discount the benefits of a stable household.

GreatBronco16
06-07-2012, 06:13 AM
As for my daughter, yes she is mine. She was conceived November 2010. Kyle entered the picture December 2011.


Trust me, your ex was screwing around on you with more than just the guy who kicked your ass in your own home after having been screwing your said ex.

You haven't taken one piece of advice that you just had to have since the beginning of this thread, and I highly doubt you would start now, BUT, GET A DNA TEST DONE. Don't wait another min.

GreatBronco16
06-07-2012, 06:15 AM
If she cheated on you once there is a good chance she did it multiple times. I'm pretty sure paternity tests are fairly cheap.

If it comes back that he is not the father, the state can make the mother be the one to foot the bill. Normally, you don't pay till after the results.

Kaylore
06-07-2012, 06:17 AM
If it comes back that he is not the father, the state can make the mother be the one to foot the bill. Normally, you don't pay till after the results.

But what if she gets mad? He'll probably end up taking care of her anyway because she might get mad at him.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 06:18 AM
If she cheated on you once there is a good chance she did it multiple times. I'm pretty sure paternity tests are fairly cheap.

At this point he is the kid's father in a legal sense regardless of biological paternity.

alkemical
06-07-2012, 06:18 AM
But what if she gets mad? He'll probably end up taking care of her anyway because she might get mad at him.

Cuckold.

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 06:19 AM
If it comes back that he is not the father, the state can make the mother be the one to foot the bill. Normally, you don't pay till after the results.

Good luck with that.

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 06:21 AM
At this point he is the kid's father in a legal sense regardless of biological paternity.

According to this thread, he already has a record with Child Protective Services where the wife and kid were removed from the household once. If it turns out she's not his, he won't have a choice. That kid will be sent away.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 06:22 AM
Oh how I love some of these responses, basically condemning my daughter already because I'm apparently not a suitable father for her by some folks on here.

As for my daughter, yes she is mine. She was conceived November 2010. Kyle entered the picture December 2011.

Also, if my ex is pregnant, it is not mine. Last time we did it was December 2011, and she wasn't pregnant last time I saw her in February.

I'm not worried about fighting, and throwing money, for forcing her to pay child support at the moment. What is crazy is she actually told me she plans on re-filing for custody, at which point she says she will win because the mother always wins. I'm sure the judge will award her custody after she already abandoned her child, and never put up a fight for her.

And by the way, I did stand up and was a man, I stood up for the one thing important in my life, my daughter, and ensured I would always be in her life, every day, shaping her to be a wonderful person.

I guess people think I should've duked it out with Kyle, nothing got resolved, and me potentially losing my daughter because I would now be deemed a violent person who isn't suitable for raising a child. People, you need to really think things through and sometimes, you gotta take one for the team to come out ahead.

I'm happy now raising my daughter, the best part of my day is when I go to pick her up from daycare and see the excited look on her face when I walk in the door. Let me tell you, NOTHING tops that.

Press her for child support. Not for the money, but to protect your custody rights. She cannot get even split custody if she is behind on child support.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 06:25 AM
Agree - had a relative get mixed up and make bad decisions - everything's working it self out now - but sheesh - sometimes dumb is dumb and the best thing you can do is hope they get smart sooner than later.

It goes beyond dumb. Codependency is an addiction.

alkemical
06-07-2012, 06:28 AM
It goes beyond dumb. Codependency is an addiction.

Oh I know, i had front row seats. I don't understand why there are so many "broken" people, or why people get so marred by things. You can almost see the breaks/watermarks/scars in people.

Kaylore
06-07-2012, 06:32 AM
It goes beyond dumb. Codependency is an addiction.

Sadly yes.

GreatBronco16
06-07-2012, 06:34 AM
Good luck with that.

Well if that was to happen, it wouldn't be his problem to get the money from her, it would be the states problem.:)

baja
06-07-2012, 06:56 AM
Dude,

the polygraph test will be in 2 years and we will be updated. Here is how it will go...

Toddler got sick and wanted to do some genetic testing. Finds out baby is not his buy Kyle's. Loves kid too much to do anything about it. Baby will be fine but needs serious medication every month that costs $2k a month. Since baby is not genetically his, he has to fight with health insurance to get covered. Mom, since he is not biological father, won't sign over adoption papers until he pays her $10k in hush money. He know is in massive debt and is living in a halfway house. More juice when he meets up with a lady that has triplets with autism and decide to move in together to start a new life and save money on rent....on a 2 bedroom, 1 bath home.

Also, make sure you go after the Ex for child support. My brother took custody of his daughter when his EX decided to stay back in NORTH Carolina after his term in the Air Force. Well, 2 years later, she came crawling back to California wanting 50% of the custody after bailing on her daughter for that same time. Luckily he won and she has visitation rights but if you don't show that she is a total loser, it could bite you in the ass in a few years.

My advise to Champ24;

Leave this message board and do no look back, there is nothing here of you. Go have a life with your daughter who will need you so very much. Good luck to you.

Kaylore
06-07-2012, 07:04 AM
My advise to Champ24;

Leave this message board and do no look back, there is nothing here of you. Go have a life with your daughter who will need you so very much. Good luck to you.

If had taken the advice here, he wouldn't be in this mess. And before you say "well he has a beautiful daughter now" she probably is adorable and brings him a lot of joy, but she might not even be his child.

baja
06-07-2012, 07:08 AM
If had taken the advice here, he wouldn't be in this mess. And before you say "well he has a beautiful daughter now" she probably is adorable and brings him a lot of joy, but she might not even be his child.


Yes and he needs to hear this from you idiots?

Champ24 you love your daughter that is all you need to know. If your story is true get off the board and get on with your life. Your daughter needs a father and you are it regardless.

55CrushEm
06-07-2012, 07:09 AM
The male population of the world apparently just went down from a few billion to 2.

:spit:

Pony Boy
06-07-2012, 07:12 AM
genuinely glad your happy being a dad. I imagine that is what your demented ex was counting on, your chivalry and love of kids.

However you need to face the possibility that beautiful girl is not your kid and I say this not to be cruel but to be prepared. Your ex is clearly an unstable wackadoodle b**** who puts herself first and sluts around like a stray cat in heat. Therefore there is some probability she has cheated on you more than with King Neckbeard. Given this history and her history of being a horrible horrible person, she is going to try to take that kid back. At that point she may play the kid really isn't your kid card. Rather then ending up on Jerry Springer, take the lead and get the DNA test yourself. when it comes back as your kid then she can't play that kid and you have info you got, not that she made up. IF the kid is not yours then its better you find out now and not have b****y mcb**** spring it on you. It would suck, but better to deal with it now.

I vote for Jerry Springer

Turd_Ferguson
06-07-2012, 07:17 AM
Trust me, your ex was screwing around on you with more than just the guy who kicked your ass in your own home after having been screwing your said ex.

You haven't taken one piece of advice that you just had to have since the beginning of this thread, and I highly doubt you would start now, BUT, GET A DNA TEST DONE. Don't wait another min.

But he already signed a napkin in a Walmart parking lot saying he was taking the kid...

vancejohnson82
06-07-2012, 07:43 AM
also, if Kyle attacked you in your own home you have the right to protect yourself....you didn't need to eat an ass whooping ...just sayin

is there a moral to this story that someone can cleanly wrap up for me?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-07-2012, 07:45 AM
also, if Kyle attacked you in your own home you have the right to protect yourself....you didn't need to eat an ass whooping ...just sayin

is there a moral to this story that someone can cleanly wrap up for me?

Yeah. Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Sounds like a bunch of us have learned this lesson the hard way.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 07:48 AM
also, if Kyle attacked you in your own home you have the right to protect yourself....you didn't need to eat an ass whooping ...just sayin

is there a moral to this story that someone can cleanly wrap up for me?

There is no limit to OP's desire to be someone's doormat.

vancejohnson82
06-07-2012, 07:51 AM
It's like one of those DirecTV commercials:

"When you order cable, you don't get your wife's favorite channels. When she doesnt get her favorite channels she goes out and gets drunk with a guy named Kyle. When she gets drunk with a guy name Kyle, Kyle spends all of his money. When Kyle spends all of his money he can't pay you for rent. When Kyle can't pay you for rent he bashes your face in with your own phone.

Don't let a guy name Kyle bash your face in with your own phone. Call DirecTV"

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 07:56 AM
Serious question, Champ: what does your father think about all of this?

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 07:59 AM
Serious question, Champ: what does your father think about all of this?

Don't go there. Even though it's a legit question, he threatened to have someone banned the last time someone brought his dad into this.

baja
06-07-2012, 08:01 AM
also, if Kyle attacked you in your own home you have the right to protect yourself....you didn't need to eat an ass whooping ...just sayin

is there a moral to this story that someone can cleanly wrap up for me?


Yes! Do not take highly personal real life issues to a football message board.

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 08:02 AM
It's like one of those DirecTV commercials:

"When you order cable, you don't get your wife's favorite channels. When she doesnt get her favorite channels she goes out and gets drunk with a guy named Kyle. When she gets drunk with a guy name Kyle, Kyle spends all of his money. When Kyle spends all of his money he can't pay you for rent. When Kyle can't pay you for rent he bashes your face in with your own phone.

Don't let a guy name Kyle bash your face in with your own phone. Call DirecTV"

If this doesn't make you laugh uncontrollably, you're not alive.

baja
06-07-2012, 08:03 AM
Serious question, Champ: what does your father think about all of this?

That is a good question but I suggest seek his advice but do not post it here.

theAPAOps5
06-07-2012, 08:05 AM
Dude you let a guy dipping his stick in your honey pot kick your ass in your own home without even defending yourself. There is an easy solution to all this. Grow a pair. It is the lack of said pair that got you into this with the chick to start. Ironically, the lack of a pair that led her to seek a pair elsewhere. And a lack of said pair that let you take an ass kicking from a guy banging your crazy.

Which leads me to believe that a DNA test needs tk be done seriously fast. Evidence is mounting.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 08:07 AM
Don't go there. Even though it's a legit question, he threatened to have someone banned the last time someone brought his dad into this.

In truth it's a rhetorical question.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 08:21 AM
It's like one of those DirecTV commercials:

"When you order cable, you don't get your wife's favorite channels. When she doesnt get her favorite channels she goes out and gets drunk with a guy named Kyle. When she gets drunk with a guy name Kyle, Kyle spends all of his money. When Kyle spends all of his money he can't pay you for rent. When Kyle can't pay you for rent he bashes your face in with your own phone.

Don't let a guy name Kyle bash your face in with your own phone. Call DirecTV"

Kyle sounds like the kind of guy that, when there is a problem with the cable TV... He fixes the cable?

JLesSPE
06-07-2012, 08:23 AM
Kyle sounds like the kind of guy that, when there is a problem with the cable TV... He fixes the cable?

while kickin your ass and bangin the crazy...come to think of it if he's got all this going on at once no wonder he has no time for a job to pay rent.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 08:26 AM
while kickin your ass and bangin the crazy...come to think of it if he's got all this going on at once no wonder he has no time for a job to pay rent.

He treats objects like women, man...

vancejohnson82
06-07-2012, 08:26 AM
Kyle sounds like the kind of guy that, when there is a problem with the cable TV... He fixes the cable?

Kyle is the type of guy that stands in the kitchen and drinks milk straight out of the carton butt naked....then tells you to pick some up on your way back from work

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 08:28 AM
Kyle is the type of guy that stands in the kitchen and drinks milk straight out of the carton butt naked....then tells you to pick some up on your way back from work

Oh I know that guy... He's a nihilist.

Kaylore
06-07-2012, 08:42 AM
Oh I know that guy... He's a nihilist.

I wonder if Kyle wears glasses...
http://www.alixspence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The-Big-Lebowski_Busby_Peter-Stormare_hood.bmp1_.jpeg

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 08:43 AM
I wonder if Kyle wears glasses...
http://www.alixspence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The-Big-Lebowski_Busby_Peter-Stormare_hood.bmp1_.jpeg

Oh, nice marmot...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-07-2012, 08:49 AM
Oh I know that guy... He's a nihilist.

That must be exhausting.

24champ
06-07-2012, 08:54 AM
Yeah. Don't stick your dick in crazy.



You can stick your dick in crazy....just wear a jimhat FFS.

Rabb
06-07-2012, 08:55 AM
You can stick your dick in crazy....just wear a jimhat FFS.

Good logic overall, but false sorry.

Do not stick your dick in crazy, bottom line.

Kaylore
06-07-2012, 08:58 AM
I vote for Jerry Springer

Irish sunglasses.

55CrushEm
06-07-2012, 09:06 AM
It's like one of those DirecTV commercials:

"When you order cable, you don't get your wife's favorite channels. When she doesnt get her favorite channels she goes out and gets drunk with a guy named Kyle. When she gets drunk with a guy name Kyle, Kyle spends all of his money. When Kyle spends all of his money he can't pay you for rent. When Kyle can't pay you for rent he bashes your face in with your own phone.

Don't let a guy name Kyle bash your face in with your own phone. Call DirecTV"

:spit:

55CrushEm
06-07-2012, 09:08 AM
Dude you let a guy dipping his stick in your honey pot kick your ass in your own home without even defending yourself. There is an easy solution to all this. Grow a pair. It is the lack of said pair that got you into this with the chick to start. Ironically, the lack of a pair that led her to seek a pair elsewhere. And a lack of said pair that let you take an ass kicking from a guy banging your crazy.

Which leads me to believe that a DNA test needs tk be done seriously fast. Evidence is mounting.

To determine if OP is a man or a woman ??

Pony Boy
06-07-2012, 09:09 AM
Kyle is the type of guy that stands in the kitchen and drinks milk straight out of the carton butt naked....then tells you to pick some up on your way back from work

I wonder if Kyle can play nose tackle ........

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-07-2012, 09:16 AM
:nono:

Spoken like someone who's never used a fake name.

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TheChamp24
06-07-2012, 09:20 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

Rabb
06-07-2012, 09:23 AM
:nono:

Spoken like someone who's never used a fake name.

More, spoken like someone who has stuck their tallywhacker in crazy and learned a valuable lesson, making him wish he used a fake name and personal details.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 09:23 AM
Yackity sax is playing in my head with every update....

Rabb
06-07-2012, 09:24 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

You aren't going to learn, are you?

baja
06-07-2012, 09:28 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

Why are you continuing here with this highly personal story? What do you hope to gain?

RhymesayersDU
06-07-2012, 09:32 AM
Yes and he needs to hear this from you idiots?

Champ24 you love your daughter that is all you need to know. If your story is true get off the board and get on with your life. Your daughter needs a father and you are it regardless.

You're really telling him to just stick his head in the sand?

Really?

REALLY?

Rohirrim
06-07-2012, 09:32 AM
Why are you continuing here with this highly personal story? What do you hope to gain?

We're living in the Facebook era. :ouwknow:

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 09:33 AM
You aren't going to learn, are you?

If two years of humiliation including the woman posting with his account, banging the roommate, and ditching him with the roommate's kid, and generally ruining his life won't teach him...

baja
06-07-2012, 09:35 AM
You're really telling him to just stick his head in the sand?

Really?

REALLY?

No I'm telling him to love his daughter an move on with his life. She doesn't have anyone else.

baja
06-07-2012, 09:35 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

watch this;

http://www.viewspot.com/brucelipton

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 09:40 AM
Which leads me to believe that a DNA test needs tk be done seriously fast. Evidence is mounting.

I think McFoneco/TheChamp24 needs to get his own paternity test as his own father has requested. I can't imagine him saying, "That's my boy!" Can those test also determine if he is actually a full male? Being a great father is exceptional but it is everything before the birth of your daughter.

Irish Stout
06-07-2012, 09:40 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

Look dude, you love your daughter. As she grows she will continue to love and need you. What if one day, 5 years down the road, crazy shows up claiming you aren't the daddy and don't have custody rights? Courts will likely side with whomever the biological parents are, regardless of the birth certificate if paternity can actually be established. This will destroy both of you and incredibly limit her long term chance for success in life.

You don't want to get the test because you don't want to rock your little world anymore than it has been. But do not let this one slip by. It is better to know for sure one way or another now than later have your life and your daughter's life totally screwed over by another truth that could separate you two. Face this one down, swallow your pride, and get the DNA swab... you don't have to go to the Court approved one yet. Here's a link to a $79 paternity test:
https://www.gtldna.net/?gclid=CLDymsrIvLACFcIUKgod5Fd-qg

Also - final argument - remember when you first came to us couple years back? Well we were all pretty much right about Crazy. We're all pretty much right about taking a DNA test man. If you can't see that... good luck.

alkemical
06-07-2012, 09:41 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckold

Cuckolding as a fetishCuckolding may refer to a mostly heterosexual fetish in which the dominant woman has sex with a man outside of the relationship while the submissive man may or may not be present. If the man is not present, he might help her choose what clothes to wear when she meets the other man, or they might get together afterward so she can tell him about it, either while having sex or in addition to withholding sex. If the man is present during the cuckolding, he may or may not be allowed to pleasure himself while watching. The cuckolding may or may not be followed by sex between the couple. Another variant of the cuckolding fetish is that a heterosexual couple fantasizes that another man has already impregnated the woman.[5] The cuckold is almost always male; the term for a female cuckold is sometimes referred to as a cuckquean[1] but is not as prevalent in popular culture as the male version of the fetish. The wife who enjoys cuckolding her husband is sometimes referred to as a hotwife[6] or (rarely) cuckoldress.[7]

[edit] Theories in psychologyPsychology regards cuckold fetishism as a variant of masochism[citation needed], the cuckold deriving pleasure from being humiliated. In Freudian analysis, cuckold fetishism is the eroticization of the fears of infidelity and of failure in the male competition for procreation and the affection of females[citation needed]. In his book Masochism and the Self, psychologist Roy Baumeister advanced a Self Theory analysis that cuckolding (and other forms of sexual masochism) among otherwise mentally healthy people was a form of escapism. In this theory, cuckold fetishists are relieving themselves of the stress of the burden of their social role and escaping into a simpler, less-expansive position.

According to these theories, the cuckold fetishist seeks pleasure both from the act of being humiliated, and by giving pleasure to his partner(s). But cuckolding can be summed psychologically as "distributing sexual humiliation to the cuckold"[citation needed]. If a couple can keep the fantasy in the bedroom, or come to an agreement where actually being cuckolded in reality does not hurt the relationship, they may try it out in reality. However, the primary proponent of the fantasy is almost always the one being humiliated, or the "cuckold", and he usually convince his partner to participate in the fantasy for him. Indeed, the fetish fantasy does not work at all if the cuckold is actually being humiliated against his will[8].

Humiliation is "the feeling of being put down, made to feel less than one feels oneself to be."[9]. Psychologist Evelin Lindner calls humiliation "the nuclear bomb of the emotions.", claiming it is an order of magnitude more powerful than any other, causing everything from interpersonal conflicts to international terrorism"[10]. According to psychoanalysis, any feeling can become sexualized if it is somehow favorably associated with sex, especially in childhood. Because humiliation is such a powerful emotion, if an individual sexualizes it, he can in turn obtain intense sexual feelings.

[edit] Theories in evolutionary psychologyIn his somewhat controversial[11] book Sperm Wars, biologist Robin Baker speculated that the excitement and stimulation of the cuckolding fetish emerges from the biology of sexuality and the effects of sexual arousal on the brain, although it is important to note the word "cuckold" does not actually appear in the book "Sperm Wars". According to one of his theories, Baker believes that when a man thinks that his female mate may have been sexual with another man, the man is prompted by biological urges to copulate with the female in an effort to "compete" with the other man's sperm. Baker is also one of the sole proponents of the theory of Killer Sperm, the idea that sperm compete not only for first access to the egg but by actually "attacking" other sperm. Although this idea appears frequently in cuckold fetish material, very few biologists share this view.[12][13]

Baker and his proponents views conflict with the hypothesized foundations for jealousy in evolutionary psychology, which is rooted in the idea that men, specifically, will react jealously to sexual infidelity on the parts of their mates[14]. Infidelity is also the number one cause for divorce[15].

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 09:45 AM
No I'm telling him to love his daughter an move on with his life. She doesn't have anyone else.

The older you get, the bore of someone really shows. Back off Old Man. He wants to be beat up with the stupid stick. I'm #38 in line and we all want our turn.

GreatBronco16
06-07-2012, 09:47 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

Anyone else catch this? You're calling your 'daughter' it now?

And ofcourse you are on the birth certificate, yall were married at the time, and I'm sure you were there for the birth and both of you claimed you as the father. They don't run DNA testing at childbirth if neither parent is questioning who the father of the child is.

baja
06-07-2012, 09:55 AM
The older you get, the bore of someone really shows. Back off Old Man. He wants to be beat up with the stupid stick. I'm #38 in line and we all want our turn.


Like I said champ24 do you really need this in your life right now?

GreatBronco16
06-07-2012, 09:55 AM
Dude just head on down to DHR and tell them that the mother of the child you have custody of is not helping support the child and that you need a parternity test to make sure that you are the father. They will handle the rest. If she is yours, then you will have to pay for it, if she is not, then you won't be responsible for the bill.

I had this test done about 6 years ago, and all I paid was 400 bucks.

gyldenlove
06-07-2012, 09:57 AM
You're really telling him to just stick his head in the sand?

Really?

REALLY?

Better than sticking his dick in crazy.

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 09:58 AM
Like I said champ24 do you really need this in your life right now?

We do. We are getting our turn of "I told you so!" We give him more advice and he rejects it.

alkemical
06-07-2012, 09:58 AM
Disney & Pr0n really f'd up a few generations of people.

RhymesayersDU
06-07-2012, 09:58 AM
Better than sticking his dick in crazy.

LOL

Touché!

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 10:04 AM
Dude just head on down to DHR and tell them that the mother of the child you have custody of is not helping support the child and that you need a parternity test to make sure that you are the father. They will handle the rest. If she is yours, then you will have to pay for it, if she is not, then you won't be responsible for the bill.

I had this test done about 6 years ago, and all I paid was 400 bucks.

There are people who despite proving they were not biological parents are still legally required to continue paying child support. If they accepted the role of parent, even out of deception... It's not the kid's fault.

DomCasual
06-07-2012, 10:06 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

Yeah, but are you positive she's the mother?

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 10:08 AM
Yeah, but are you positive she's the mother?

Shiat just got real.

Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 10:13 AM
There are people who despite proving they were not biological parents are still legally required to continue paying child support.

Beantown Bronco Rule #11: Never go cheap when it comes to hiring a lawyer.

Turd_Ferguson
06-07-2012, 10:26 AM
I wonder if Kyle wears glasses...
http://www.alixspence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/The-Big-Lebowski_Busby_Peter-Stormare_hood.bmp1_.jpeg

These men are ****ing cowards Donnie.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 10:31 AM
These men are ****ing cowards Donnie.

What are you, a f%#king park ranger?

underrated29
06-07-2012, 10:33 AM
For gods sake whatever you end screwing up more. Do Not. For the love of God. Do not.

Let your daughter watch Ghostbusters.

GreatBronco16
06-07-2012, 10:35 AM
There are people who despite proving they were not biological parents are still legally required to continue paying child support. If they accepted the role of parent, even out of deception... It's not the kid's fault.

I wasn't talking about child support. That is entirely different then paying for a DNA test.

And yes I know of which you speak too. But that is a discussion that will soon be in his story. Stay tuned.:)

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-07-2012, 10:38 AM
What are you, a f%#king park ranger?

Also, Dude... "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. "Asian-American," please.

HILife
06-07-2012, 10:58 AM
I caught the begining of this story and the end of it. I really don't want to read through 35+ posts to get the whole story, so can someone give me the cliff notes version. Don't leave out the juice detail.

Better yet, someone create a new thread, post the details in that thread, sticky it, then lock the thread. Everyone can then go to that thread, get updated and then jump in this one.

Kaylore
06-07-2012, 10:58 AM
Also, Dude... "Chinaman" is not the preferred nomenclature. "Asian-American," please.

Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 11:00 AM
Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here.

They peed on your f#%king rug.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-07-2012, 11:01 AM
Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here.

That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

Am I wrong?

AM I WRONG?

"Walter, you're not wrong, you're just an A$$hole."

24champ
06-07-2012, 11:03 AM
That rug really tied the room together.

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Beantown Bronco
06-07-2012, 11:12 AM
I caught the begining of this story and the end of it. I really don't want to read through 35+ posts to get the whole story, so can someone give me the cliff notes version. Don't leave out the juice detail.

Better yet, someone create a new thread, post the details in that thread, sticky it, then lock the thread. Everyone can then go to that thread, get updated and then jump in this one.

Just do an advanced thread search and search by the OP's name.

baja
06-07-2012, 11:17 AM
Just do an advanced thread search and search by the OP's name.

There is an easier way.

Go to the main page.

Find this thread.

click on "replies" (it's a number)

click on the poster's replies that you want to review. (also a number)

Beej
06-07-2012, 11:28 AM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
...


Does your daughter look like Doug Flutie? If not, you can probably rule out Doug Flutie.

Pony Boy
06-07-2012, 11:29 AM
I caught the begining of this story and the end of it. I really don't want to read through 35+ posts to get the whole story, so can someone give me the cliff notes version. Don't leave out the juice detail.

Better yet, someone create a new thread, post the details in that thread, sticky it, then lock the thread. Everyone can then go to that thread, get updated and then jump in this one.

This should do it

It's like one of those DirecTV commercials:

"When you order cable, you don't get your wife's favorite channels. When she doesnt get her favorite channels she goes out and gets drunk with a guy named Kyle. When she gets drunk with a guy name Kyle, Kyle spends all of his money. When Kyle spends all of his money he can't pay you for rent. When Kyle can't pay you for rent he bashes your face in with your own phone.

Don't let a guy name Kyle bash your face in with your own phone. Call DirecTV"

RhymesayersDU
06-07-2012, 11:42 AM
I caught the begining of this story and the end of it. I really don't want to read through 35+ posts to get the whole story, so can someone give me the cliff notes version. Don't leave out the juice detail.

Better yet, someone create a new thread, post the details in that thread, sticky it, then lock the thread. Everyone can then go to that thread, get updated and then jump in this one.

You didn't really ask for the cliffs notes AND the detail, did you?

El Minion
06-07-2012, 11:53 AM
Oh how I love some of these responses, basically condemning my daughter already because I'm apparently not a suitable father for her by some folks on here.

As for my daughter, yes she is mine. She was conceived November 2010. Kyle entered the picture December 2011.

Also, if my ex is pregnant, it is not mine. Last time we did it was December 2011, and she wasn't pregnant last time I saw her in February.

I'm not worried about fighting, and throwing money, for forcing her to pay child support at the moment. What is crazy is she actually told me she plans on re-filing for custody, at which point she says she will win because the mother always wins. I'm sure the judge will award her custody after she already abandoned her child, and never put up a fight for her.

And by the way, I did stand up and was a man, I stood up for the one thing important in my life, my daughter, and ensured I would always be in her life, every day, shaping her to be a wonderful person.

I guess people think I should've duked it out with Kyle, nothing got resolved, and me potentially losing my daughter because I would now be deemed a violent person who isn't suitable for raising a child. People, you need to really think things through and sometimes, you gotta take one for the team to come out ahead.

I'm happy now raising my daughter, the best part of my day is when I go to pick her up from daycare and see the excited look on her face when I walk in the door. Let me tell you, NOTHING tops that.

You did the right thing, domestic violence is never the correct response. You protected your family by exhibiting rational thought; actions have consequences, especially the wrong and violent ones. Hopefully going forward you continue practicing that line of thinking and better judgment now that you have a child that will be watching how you move in the world, react to drama and make adult decisions as she grows up in the environment you create for her.

Archer81
06-07-2012, 12:04 PM
Well he have learned much from this thread.

First thing is to avoid crazy. Aliens, zombies, draculas, werewolves, giant bugs are nothing compared to real, live crazy people. Only silver lining is this entire drama is the daughter. Everything else was and continues to be a train wreck.

Second thing is allowing the wife's boy toy to continue to live in the house with the family while preparing to leave. That's just stupid, and the natural end result was a physical altercation.

Third thing is the exwifey probably bumped clams with the first stranger to stay at the house.

Fourth thing is the sound of this entire episode is the result of a man losing his V card to a chick from CrazyHoburg, and thinking that was the only vajayjay in the world. 3.5 billion other women on the planet man, even two years ago. You date crazy to realize what crazy is, then find a woman who is everything the crazy ho was not.

Fifth thing is pointing out that Rev and others on PAGE ONE of this thread were right in the first place. So in the future when a perfect stranger tells you "hey man, this chick sounds completely whacked, you should dump her and get a sane one" you should probably listen.

Sixth thing...dont point out an advice thread you started about the girl you are seeing to the girl in question. Even if she was a sparkling diamond in a pile of horse poo, you cause problems in the relationship when she starts to think you trust people you dont even know over her. Which eventually makes the chick the new mayor of crazyhoburg and she decides your testicles would look nice with a floral arrangement.

:Broncos:

Tombstone RJ
06-07-2012, 12:09 PM
Look dude, you love your daughter. As she grows she will continue to love and need you. What if one day, 5 years down the road, crazy shows up claiming you aren't the daddy and don't have custody rights? Courts will likely side with whomever the biological parents are, regardless of the birth certificate if paternity can actually be established. This will destroy both of you and incredibly limit her long term chance for success in life.

You don't want to get the test because you don't want to rock your little world anymore than it has been. But do not let this one slip by. It is better to know for sure one way or another now than later have your life and your daughter's life totally screwed over by another truth that could separate you two. Face this one down, swallow your pride, and get the DNA swab... you don't have to go to the Court approved one yet. Here's a link to a $79 paternity test:
https://www.gtldna.net/?gclid=CLDymsrIvLACFcIUKgod5Fd-qg

Also - final argument - remember when you first came to us couple years back? Well we were all pretty much right about Crazy. We're all pretty much right about taking a DNA test man. If you can't see that... good luck.

stop with all your common sense crap. Champ lives very happily in a place called denial. He's the kindof guy who prefers not to know things and just hope for the best. When he get's hammered, well, what's a guy to do anyway?

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 12:16 PM
Agreed. Nothing to do here but follow your heart. You parctically have nothing to lose at this age, (DONT FORGET THIS PART) and everything to gain.

Nothing to lose? Just one of so many ****ed up replies given to him. You are all co-dependent at fault. So much failure and even though I gave the correct advice, maybe a few pages too late (with Jason from LA). If you don't know Leykis, married to be or not, figure out some of the rules and then you can GTFO! Leykis 100 ... google it!

At the age of 25, you can take some gambles. Follow your heart.




"Follow your heart" then pick it up, take the knife out and try to continue on like nothing happened. Yeah, great advice morons.

Dukes
06-07-2012, 12:18 PM
They peed on your f#%king rug.

Who peed on the dudes rug Walter?

Tombstone RJ
06-07-2012, 12:20 PM
hehehe yah TJ and Rohirrim... If I was Champ I'd punch both of you in the face...

baja
06-07-2012, 12:21 PM
Nothing to lose? Just one of so many ****ed up replies given to him. You are all co-dependent at fault. So much failure and even though I gave the correct advice, maybe a few pages too late (with Jason from LA). If you don't know Leykis, married to be or not, figure out some of the rules and then you can GTFO! Leykis 100 ... google it!






"Follow your heart" then pick it up, take the knife out and try to continue on like nothing happened. Yeah, great advice morons.

Yes much better to sit home and eat Cheerios.

Archer81
06-07-2012, 12:22 PM
Nothing to lose? Just one of so many ****ed up replies given to him. You are all co-dependent at fault. So much failure and even though I gave the correct advice, maybe a few pages too late (with Jason from LA). If you don't know Leykis, married to be or not, figure out some of the rules and then you can GTFO! Leykis 100 ... google it!






"Follow your heart" then pick it up, take the knife out and try to continue on like nothing happened. Yeah, great advice morons.


You learn more from a mistake than you do from a success.

But that does not mean you walk into a minefield with dick in hand picking daisies.

:Broncos:

baja
06-07-2012, 12:24 PM
Over 50% of marriages end in divorce - never get married, in fact never leave your room at mom's house you might get hurt. Brilliant advice

Tombstone RJ
06-07-2012, 12:32 PM
Over 50% of marriages end in divorce - never get married, in fact never leave your room at mom's house you might get hurt. Brilliant advice

hey baja, this thread is for adults. You can go play with the kiddies in the sand box. Maybe your bff Sandy Vagina will show up!

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 12:33 PM
Over 50% of marriages end in divorce - never get married, in fact never leave your room at mom's house you might get hurt. Brilliant advice

The morons still backing their opinion. Great job....

Don't let these guys scare you. Trust your heart.

What do you have to lose? Your business...ummm no. Your house...umm no. If you're ever going to take a leap of faith, nows the time. It won't always be this easy to try something like this. Sooner than you think life will tie you down.

So what if you have to crawl home to the parents and start over. At least you would have tried. Is this your 'dream job'...doubtful.

Yeah, what did he gain? A big headache right from the start.

No one said to take risks but when red flags are all around you and you still do it, you are dumb. Those that back up the plan are just as stupid but luckily for them, might not have encountered such a ****ed up chick.
Get real old man and others.

Archer81
06-07-2012, 12:34 PM
A reason against gay marriage, this entire thread is.

Yodaism#1...


:Broncos:

SonOfLe-loLang
06-07-2012, 12:36 PM
Yeah, there is one thing missing from this conversation. Most relationships don't work out. So, you didnt even need the details of this situation to guess that it'd end poorly.

That said, this one ended really poorly :)

baja
06-07-2012, 12:38 PM
hey baja, this thread is for adults. You can go play with the kiddies in the sand box. Maybe your bff Sandy Vagina will show up!

You really think you are an adult? I've been reading your posts and can assure you you are not.

Adult bawhaaaa that's a good one.

DomCasual
06-07-2012, 12:41 PM
Oh I know that guy... He's a nihilist.

Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude. At least it's an ethos.

DomCasual
06-07-2012, 12:42 PM
Yeah, there is one thing missing from this conversation. Most relationships don't work out. So, you didnt even need the details of this situation to guess that it'd end poorly.

That said, this one ended really poorly :)

Spare me your subjective opinions.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
06-07-2012, 12:53 PM
You learn more from a mistake than you do from a success.

But that does not mean you walk into a minefield with dick in hand picking daisies.

:Broncos:

Imagery for the win.

baja
06-07-2012, 01:02 PM
A farmer had only one horse. One day, his horse ran away.

All the neighbors came by saying, “I'm so sorry. This is such bad news. You must be so upset.” The man just said, “We'll see.”

A few days later, his horse came back with twenty wild horses. The man and his son corraled all 21 horses.

All the neighbors came by saying, “Congratulations! This is such good news. You must be so happy!” The man just said, “We'll see.”

One of the wild horses kicked the man's only son, breaking both his legs.

All the neighbors came by saying, “I'm so sorry. This is such bad news. You must be so upset.” The man just said, “We'll see.”

The country went to war, and every able-bodied young man was drafted to fight. The war was terrible and killed every young man, but the farmer's son was spared, since his broken legs prevented him from being drafted.

All the neighbors came by saying, “Congratulations! This is such good news. You must be so happy!” The man just said, “We'll see.”

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 01:11 PM
I will continue the story.
The son gets better and is now working in the pen with the 21 horses. They decide to all take off to Myrtle Beach because there are some total ,slutty fillies there that **** and don't have time for working the field. So they bum rushed the son and fence, killing him instantly and off they went to never be seen again.

All the neighbors came by saying, “I'm so sorry. This is such bad news. You must be so upset.” The man just said, “We'll see.”

Moron.

baja
06-07-2012, 01:13 PM
I will continue the story.
The son gets better and is now working in the pen with the 21 horses. They decide to all take off to Myrtle Beach because there are some total ,slutty fillies there that **** and don't have time for working the field. So they bum rushed the son and fence, killing him instantly and off they went to never be seen again.

All the neighbors came by saying, “I'm so sorry. This is such bad news. You must be so upset.” The man just said, “We'll see.”

Moron.

That woosh sound was the point flying over your head.

Stagger Lee
06-07-2012, 01:16 PM
I'm confused. Were the wild horses banging the dudes wife?

RhymesayersDU
06-07-2012, 01:16 PM
There was a point?

baja
06-07-2012, 01:16 PM
Are you raising another man's child?



Patrick Connaro, a 42-year-old robotics engineer living in Colorado Springs, was sitting in the bleachers one warm Saturday afternoon in 2003, watching his son's Little League game, when the ground opened beneath him.

"My little boy was there, he was up at bat, and I started yelling for him, 'Go Matthew [not his real name]! Knock it out of the park!' And another man started screaming for Matthew. Louder than me. I looked over, and I looked at him, and I was like, Who is this guy? And I looked at my son, and I looked at him . . . and they were identical."

After the ball game, Connaro ordered a paternity test. The results came back 2 weeks later. "I opened up the letter from Labcorp, and it said, ' . . . 99.9 percent chance you are not the biological father of this child.' I started crying. My head started spinning."

Connaro admits that the possibility had crossed his mind before, given his son's dissimilar facial features, but each time he questioned his wife about it, she vehemently denied the suggestion. Even when he showed her the test results, she still denied it. "She said, 'You forged this,' " Connaro recalls, shaking his head in amazement.

To this day he remembers that game with a kind of nightmarish clarity. Matthew struck out. Connaro had planned on going over and giving him a hug, along with a few words of fatherly consolation, but when he heard the other guy yelling, he just stood up and walked away.

"I was so disillusioned, I just didn't know what to say. It was horrible. I don't think anybody could experience what I experienced there."

Some call this paternity fraud. But a more accurate term is "paternal discrepancy." Paternity fraud emphasizes the financial aspect of the phenomenon, but paternal discrepancy (PD) describes the anomaly itself--the disconnect between what men think is true and the genetic reality. And research shows that it's a lot more common than we might believe.

After recently reviewing 67 studies on the subject, University of Oklahoma researchers found that PD rates tend to be much higher among men who have reason to believe there's been more than one dog in the yard. No surprise there. But leave out these men and you end up with a number that can safely be assumed to represent the rest of us. That number is 3.85 percent. Another review of 19 studies by a group at Liverpool John Moores University backs this up, putting the figure at 3.7 percent of dads. It may not seem like a lot--until you do the math. According to a 2005 U.S. Census Bureau report, there are 27,940,000 fathers nationwide with a child under 18. That means over a million guys out there are taking care of some other man's kid.

Compared with this, infidelity by itself is a mere white lie, a misdemeanor, maybe even forgivable. But this . . . this lie unravels years of commitment in a single stroke. Does forgiveness even apply here?

There are those who believe that biology shouldn't make a difference, that fatherhood is just a social construct. Connaro himself refuses to let genetics stand between him and his son. "I'm the only man that he knows as his dad," he says. "Why should I lose that bond and that love?"

Many men in Connaro's position might not feel the same way. Studies show that evolution has designed men to care deeply about who their children are. In 2003, for instance, researchers at the State University of New York at Albany recruited 20 men and 20 women, then morphed their facial features with photographs of children. Subsequent testing showed that the women responded equally to photos of kids whose faces resembled theirs and those that resembled the faces of strangers. The men, on the other hand, reacted far more positively to children whose faces resembled their own.


Read more at Men's Health: http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/fathers-and-kids-parenting-fraud#ixzz1x8lyJJwU

HILife
06-07-2012, 01:17 PM
That woosh sound was the point flying over your head.

I missed it too. Are you trying to say he's in denial?

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 01:22 PM
I'm confused. Were the wild horses banging the dudes wife?

Good chance she was.

Baja in this thread... Hilarious!

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 01:24 PM
Are you raising another man's child?



Patrick Connaro, a 42-year-old robotics engineer living in Colorado Springs, was sitting in the bleachers one warm Saturday afternoon in 2003, watching his son's Little League game, when the ground opened beneath him.




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baja
06-07-2012, 01:25 PM
I missed it too. Are you trying to say he's in denial?

Hard to pass judgement on life events especially when your are talking about someone else's life.

DomCasual
06-07-2012, 01:27 PM
I really feel that this is the time we need to revisit this fantastic video.

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broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 01:32 PM
Dom,
Can you post the entire video? It stops before those men decide to cut off their testicles and hand them over to their domineering wives.

DomCasual
06-07-2012, 01:33 PM
Dom,
Can you post the entire video? It stops before those men decide to cut off their testicles and hand them over to their domineering wives.

I think you're talking about the prequel.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-07-2012, 01:35 PM
I think you're talking about the prequel.

Lololololol

Houshyamama
06-07-2012, 01:47 PM
Never stick your dick in crazy.

But if you do, run like hell afterwards, and never, NEVER, EVER EVER EVER fail to use some sort of contraceptive measure (nothing against your apparently beautiful young daughter).

DomCasual
06-07-2012, 01:47 PM
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ColoradoDarin
06-07-2012, 03:20 PM
This whole thing is just a metaphor for the Shanahan/McDaniels/ElFox Broncos drama over the last few years, right?

underrated29
06-07-2012, 03:53 PM
Hard to pass judgement on life events especially when your are talking about someone else's life.




Maybe I can be of assistance then. I am 27, divorced single dad of a 5 year old. With custody because I had a seriously bat **** crazy ex wife (drugs destroyed her).......

.....Now, she did not cheat on me, I did not let her or some dude live with me at anytime, let alone without paying rent. And the few occasions where her new husband has wanted to get physical I laughed at him, made fun of him and called him names. Then I proceeded to walk calmly into his house and grab some of my sons things and my son and walked out while they sat their and watched.
Im not a bitch, and they both know it. That is why they did not even think about harrassing me when I went into THEIR house to get my son.


So while my situation is not nearly as dire as Champ24 (sorry other champ lol) I think I am pretty damn close enough in scenarios to relate. And with that I have to say:

WTF! -MAN UP AND BE RELENTLESS ON THIS BIOTCH. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, BE PROACTIVE AND GET THE DAMN TEST STUPID!

baja
06-07-2012, 03:58 PM
Maybe I can be of assistance then. I am 27, divorced single dad of a 5 year old. With custody because I had a seriously bat **** crazy ex wife (drugs destroyed her).......

.....Now, she did not cheat on me, I did not let her or some dude live with me at anytime, let alone without paying rent. And the few occasions where her new husband has wanted to get physical I laughed at him, made fun of him and called him names. Then I proceeded to walk calmly into his house and grab some of my sons things and my son and walked out while they sat their and watched.
Im not a b****, and they both know it. That is why they did not even think about harrassing me when I went into THEIR house to get my son.



So while my situation is not nearly as dire as Champ24 (sorry other champ lol) I think I am pretty damn close enough in scenarios to relate. And with that I have to say:

WTF! -MAN UP AND BE RELENTLESS ON THIS BIOTCH. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, BE PROACTIVE AND GET THE DAMN TEST STUPID!

There is a difference between judgment and informed advice. I think you advice is sound.

BTW Reading here the possible consequences of her later coming back and claiming he is not the father has made me rethink the DNA test. I now see the reason to do it and agree.

broncocalijohn
06-07-2012, 04:10 PM
There is a difference between judgment and informed advice. I think you advice is sound.

BTW Reading here the possible consequences of her later coming back and claiming he is not the father has made me rethink the DNA test. I now see the reason to do it and agree.

The informed advice came and went and he ignored it. Now we judge. Here is his chance to make bad situation right by going through the correct motions. As much as this thread is full of fun for us on the outside, I would hate to see that his update in a year is bad news for him because he didn't take sound advice.

Shananahan
06-07-2012, 04:50 PM
I'm not too worried about him, honestly. Assuming all of this isn't completely fabricated, he seems very adept at gargling urine and claiming it tastes like lemonade.

Willynowei
06-07-2012, 06:47 PM
There is a difference between judgment and informed advice. I think you advice is sound.

BTW Reading here the possible consequences of her later coming back and claiming he is not the father has made me rethink the DNA test. I now see the reason to do it and agree.

This man does not take sound advice, he has shown that he is not only a poor decision maker, but blocks reality out when it suits him to. He needs to be judged and screamed, or something extreme so he can wake the **** up.

He honestly needed to be beaten more as a kid.

Goobzilla
06-07-2012, 06:53 PM
This thread is already being measured for its Ring of Fame jacket. 2 years of pure awesome, don't stop now!

Spider
06-07-2012, 07:10 PM
You got some solid advice ....go for it ...you only live once make the most of it ....

theAPAOps5
06-07-2012, 07:12 PM
My question is this, why was a guy at his sons baseball game cheering and so was another guy? Yeah we find out because he is the father but when you firs read it sounds like a random dude just started cheering and lo and behold he is

Are you raising another man's child?



Patrick Connaro, a 42-year-old robotics engineer living in Colorado Springs, was sitting in the bleachers one warm Saturday afternoon in 2003, watching his son's Little League game, when the ground opened beneath him.

"My little boy was there, he was up at bat, and I started yelling for him, 'Go Matthew [not his real name]! Knock it out of the park!' And another man started screaming for Matthew. Louder than me. I looked over, and I looked at him, and I was like, Who is this guy? And I looked at my son, and I looked at him . . . and they were identical."

After the ball game, Connaro ordered a paternity test. The results came back 2 weeks later. "I opened up the letter from Labcorp, and it said, ' . . . 99.9 percent chance you are not the biological father of this child.' I started crying. My head started spinning."

Connaro admits that the possibility had crossed his mind before, given his son's dissimilar facial features, but each time he questioned his wife about it, she vehemently denied the suggestion. Even when he showed her the test results, she still denied it. "She said, 'You forged this,' " Connaro recalls, shaking his head in amazement.

To this day he remembers that game with a kind of nightmarish clarity. Matthew struck out. Connaro had planned on going over and giving him a hug, along with a few words of fatherly consolation, but when he heard the other guy yelling, he just stood up and walked away.

"I was so disillusioned, I just didn't know what to say. It was horrible. I don't think anybody could experience what I experienced there."

Some call this paternity fraud. But a more accurate term is "paternal discrepancy." Paternity fraud emphasizes the financial aspect of the phenomenon, but paternal discrepancy (PD) describes the anomaly itself--the disconnect between what men think is true and the genetic reality. And research shows that it's a lot more common than we might believe.

After recently reviewing 67 studies on the subject, University of Oklahoma researchers found that PD rates tend to be much higher among men who have reason to believe there's been more than one dog in the yard. No surprise there. But leave out these men and you end up with a number that can safely be assumed to represent the rest of us. That number is 3.85 percent. Another review of 19 studies by a group at Liverpool John Moores University backs this up, putting the figure at 3.7 percent of dads. It may not seem like a lot--until you do the math. According to a 2005 U.S. Census Bureau report, there are 27,940,000 fathers nationwide with a child under 18. That means over a million guys out there are taking care of some other man's kid.

Compared with this, infidelity by itself is a mere white lie, a misdemeanor, maybe even forgivable. But this . . . this lie unravels years of commitment in a single stroke. Does forgiveness even apply here?

There are those who believe that biology shouldn't make a difference, that fatherhood is just a social construct. Connaro himself refuses to let genetics stand between him and his son. "I'm the only man that he knows as his dad," he says. "Why should I lose that bond and that love?"

Many men in Connaro's position might not feel the same way. Studies show that evolution has designed men to care deeply about who their children are. In 2003, for instance, researchers at the State University of New York at Albany recruited 20 men and 20 women, then morphed their facial features with photographs of children. Subsequent testing showed that the women responded equally to photos of kids whose faces resembled theirs and those that resembled the faces of strangers. The men, on the other hand, reacted far more positively to children whose faces resembled their own.


Read more at Men's Health: http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/fathers-and-kids-parenting-fraud#ixzz1x8lyJJwU

baja
06-07-2012, 07:17 PM
This man does not take sound advice, he has shown that he is not only a poor decision maker, but blocks reality out when it suits him to. He needs to be judged and screamed, or something extreme so he can wake the **** up.

He honestly needed to be beaten more as a kid.

Haven't you ever made a dumb decision against the advise of older wiser people (parents maybe) and only in the aftermath of the experience did you realize just how silly your choice was? I know I have and I bet most here have. I don't think I would have benefited from "more beatings". I think that is just a asinine statement. But there have been no shortage of asinine statements on this thread. Maybe one or two by me. ;D

Hope the kid is done posting and gets on with the business of living his life and raising his daughter.

McDman
06-07-2012, 11:31 PM
Again, the thing that kills me is he knowingly let a guy who was banging his wife live with them in the house. WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

WinningMatters
06-07-2012, 11:43 PM
Champ how much money are you making now? Did you get a better job or what?

Archer81
06-08-2012, 12:57 AM
The more I think about this thread, the more it seems like its the longest running fraud in the history of the OM.

Was there a crazy bitch? Yes. Is there a daughter? Probably.Was there a Kyle? Yes.

So he hooked up with a crazy chick, possibly knocked her up and allowed another man to not only take away the crazy chick (a blessing, IMO) allowed said free agent dick to take residence in his home for a month.

...

The entire scenario sets my bull**** meter off.

:Broncos:

maven
06-08-2012, 04:01 PM
Interesting thread. Well, at least you have a beautiful daughter out of all this. Lemme know when she's legal.

Pony Boy
06-09-2012, 07:38 AM
Maybe I can be of assistance then. I am 27, divorced single dad of a 5 year old. With custody because I had a seriously bat **** crazy ex wife (drugs destroyed her).......

.....Now, she did not cheat on me, I did not let her or some dude live with me at anytime, let alone without paying rent. And the few occasions where her new husband has wanted to get physical I laughed at him, made fun of him and called him names. Then I proceeded to walk calmly into his house and grab some of my sons things and my son and walked out while they sat their and watched.
Im not a b****, and they both know it. That is why they did not even think about harrassing me when I went into THEIR house to get my son.


So while my situation is not nearly as dire as Champ24 (sorry other champ lol) I think I am pretty damn close enough in scenarios to relate. And with that I have to say:

WTF! -MAN UP AND BE RELENTLESS ON THIS BIOTCH. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, BE PROACTIVE AND GET THE DAMN TEST STUPID!

I say WTF to your WTF ....... If you have a seriously bat **** crazy ex wife (who destroyed herself on drugs)....... why would you let her have unsupervised visitation with your son and did you have a criminal background check run on her new husband? Where was your attorney, asleep at the wheel?

RhymesayersDU
06-09-2012, 07:40 AM
Interesting thread. Well, at least you have a beautiful daughter out of all this. Lemme know when she's legal.

By that time the Heat will have won nothing and you'll be hiding in a secret bunker, off the grid.

Meck77
06-09-2012, 08:22 AM
The more I think about this thread, the more it seems like its the longest running fraud in the history of the OM.

Was there a crazy b****? Yes. Is there a daughter? Probably.Was there a Kyle? Yes.

So he hooked up with a crazy chick, possibly knocked her up and allowed another man to not only take away the crazy chick (a blessing, IMO) allowed said free agent dick to take residence in his home for a month.

...

The entire scenario sets my bull**** meter off.

:Broncos:

I agree but the Oprahs of the site are eating it up which is pretty funny actually.

DENVERDUI55
03-20-2013, 09:58 AM
What was the outcome of this thread? Heartbreak I would guess.

ZONA
03-20-2013, 10:15 AM
What was the outcome of this thread? Heartbreak I would guess.

Cmon man, this was thread worthy when he needed the advice. It's been 2 years. If you want to know send them man a PM. Don't bring something like this back to life. Good lord. This website is already slower then a turtle. No need to make it slower with keeping a topic like this ongoing.

Jekyll15Hyde
03-20-2013, 10:18 AM
I just want to thank the bump because I missed this when it was ongoing. Didnt read it all but loved some of the synopsis presented. CrazyHoBurg.... :rofl:

SleepingTiger
03-20-2013, 11:43 AM
dang, i just saw this thread. wow.... speechless.

anyways, did he ever get a paternity test?

penguintheory
03-20-2013, 10:26 PM
Mind go boom

ZONA
03-20-2013, 11:22 PM
Mind go boom

Awesome avatar - rep

Jason in LA
03-20-2013, 11:50 PM
This is one of the greatest threads ever! It brought us the "Myrtle Beach" jokes. Those are as good as the "Ghost Buster" jokes.

Jason in LA
03-20-2013, 11:52 PM
Interesting thread. Well, at least you have a beautiful daughter out of all this. Lemme know when she's legal.


Lesbo action!

Jason in LA
03-21-2013, 12:19 AM
wow....im here eating a corndog in Newark, NJ, watching Japanese Anime Porn and missing my ex girlfriend...decided to log on here for a moment

thank God I did....this makes me feel a lot better about myself

this update can't be true

I'm going back through some old posts for kicks. This one made me laugh. lol

Jason in LA
03-21-2013, 12:24 AM
This has to be a joke. Please tell me it is. Damn, if it's true, yeah, I don't know how else to say this, but you're ****ed. I mean, royally ****ed. Damn, properly ****ed too!

You can't tell anybody anything when they are in "love". Damn, how many lives is love going to ruin. ;D

I said this stuff back in 2010. This is kind of funny.

TheChamp24
03-21-2013, 06:12 AM
What was the outcome of this thread? Heartbreak I would guess.

Heartbreak? No, I am doing well, have had some bumps in the road, but things are going well. I'm starting to look at possibly moving out of Texas, would like to go back to Colorado but that probably won't happen for a little bit.

Anyways, back to the Doom/Urlacher/Draft threads now.

Rohirrim
03-21-2013, 07:37 AM
Redicule? I forgot the fiance had come on and posted. :spit:

Jekyll15Hyde
03-21-2013, 09:16 AM
Redicule? I forgot the fiance had come on and posted. :spit:

Link?

Rohirrim
03-21-2013, 09:30 AM
Link?

About two thirds of the way in. Rockpapersissors, I think was the name she took.

DENVERDUI55
03-21-2013, 09:33 AM
Heartbreak? No, I am doing well, have had some bumps in the road, but things are going well. I'm starting to look at possibly moving out of Texas, would like to go back to Colorado but that probably won't happen for a little bit.

Anyways, back to the Doom/Urlacher/Draft threads now.

Good to hear. I only read the first couple pages and skipped to the end.

scrap
03-21-2013, 10:32 AM
Good to hear. I only read the first couple pages and skipped to the end.

You missed A LOT!
The "bumps in the road" include:

Got her pregnant, she went crazy, left him and wants no part of the child.

She gave up rights to the child via Wal-Mart parking lot meeting penned on a napkin

Allowing his woman to bring a man to live in his home, not pay rent, bang his woman and kick his ass in front of the child....and he let the guy stay a month afterword.

She pays no support, he's not really interested in making her do so

He admits that there a chance kid isn't his, but see's not reason to get a DNA test
..and much much more.

In summary:
Guy asks for advice on a message board->Guy does not follow a single bit prudent of advice given. He's either fake or someone Manti Teo would call a naive pussy.

scrap
03-21-2013, 10:39 AM
I am new here (this is my first post) I too am a high school droop out but I am smart enough to know most of you so called men are children that shave. How dare you judge this woman. What gives you the right. Do you know anything about her? Many fine marriages come from this same sort of a back ground. They seem to be in love and that will overcome many a hardship. This guy Reverend seems more interested in showing off how smart he thinks he is more than actually helping with any sincerity. Course how do you take seriously a guy that mates with lobsters. At least he is an individual all the rest of you just follow his lead. I don't see one man on this thread well there are two but that's a scarce few considering to the number that chimed in. I'd screw either one of them but they are both old uck!!!

Rev probably has lobster aids.

HAHAAHA , found his girl's first post. Wish SHE would update us on this cuckold.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-21-2013, 10:58 AM
Say what you want about Rev, he owned this thread

gyldenlove
03-21-2013, 11:01 AM
Say what you want about Rev, he owned this thread

I don't know, his advice about investing wasn't what we would normally consider great timing given the financial collapse between then and now, but other than that he was definitely on the money.

But with great wisdom comes lobsteraids.....

SonOfLe-loLang
03-21-2013, 11:03 AM
I don't know, his advice about investing wasn't what we would normally consider great timing given the financial collapse between then and now, but other than that he was definitely on the money.

But with great wisdom comes lobsteraids.....

Oh, i didnt mean the financial part..haha. But everything else. I still can't believe how poorly that turned out, but what doesn't kill you ... i guess?

DENVERDUI55
03-21-2013, 11:26 AM
You missed A LOT!
The "bumps in the road" include:

Got her pregnant, she went crazy, left him and wants no part of the child.

She gave up rights to the child via Wal-Mart parking lot meeting penned on a napkin

Allowing his woman to bring a man to live in his home, not pay rent, bang his woman and kick his ass in front of the child....and he let the guy stay a month afterword.

She pays no support, he's not really interested in making her do so

He admits that there a chance kid isn't his, but see's not reason to get a DNA test
..and much much more.

In summary:
Guy asks for advice on a message board->Guy does not follow a single bit prudent of advice given. He's either fake or someone Manti Teo would call a naive p***Y.

Wow Hollywood can't even make that up or top it.

chadta
03-21-2013, 05:32 PM
did this guy ever leave a number or anything ? I still go to MB every year, maybe ill give em a shout and find out how things went next time im down there.

Jason in LA
03-21-2013, 08:19 PM
Good to hear. I only read the first couple pages and skipped to the end.

You should read it. Multiple plot turns. It's worth the time.


Guy asks for advice on a message board->Guy does not follow a single bit prudent of advice given. He's either fake or someone Manti Teo would call a naive p***Y.

I'm still not sure if this is a true story, but if it is, he did ask for advice only to ignore all of it, which landed him in all of this drama.

underrated29
03-21-2013, 10:56 PM
I say WTF to your WTF ....... If you have a seriously bat **** crazy ex wife (who destroyed herself on drugs)....... why would you let her have unsupervised visitation with your son and did you have a criminal background check run on her new husband? Where was your attorney, asleep at the wheel?



God I love this thread.

As to your question pony boy- I had no attorney. Neither did she. Colorado is a woman's state, you'd be surprised, I mean choking on a dick surprised at that crap they will let a mom do and get away with all because she is a mom. In any event we were able to do it without attorneys and no child support so I got that ish done before she changed her mind or wisened up to how the courts rule. (Always in favor of the mom- even if she had no legs and rode I to the courtroom riding the face of the retarded guy from goodies covered in potatoe salad.)

Cito Pelon
03-23-2013, 09:21 AM
You should read it. Multiple plot turns. It's worth the time.



I'm still not sure if this is a true story, but if it is, he did ask for advice only to ignore all of it, which landed him in all of this drama.

I remember reading some of this when it first popped up and thinking this is a made up story by the OP solely to entertain himself. I figured it HAD to be yanking chains to get some response.

It actually is very entertaining, and this is the first time I ever really looked at it in depth. Rev made me LOL with his "Captain Save-A-Ho" remark.

DENVERDUI55
03-23-2013, 11:05 AM
I remember reading some of this when it first popped up and thinking this is a made up story by the OP solely to entertain himself. I figured it HAD to be yanking chains to get some response.

It actually is very entertaining, and this is the first time I ever really looked at it in depth. Rev made me LOL with his "Captain Save-A-Ho" remark.

On the second or third page someone commented whatever you decide just don't knock her up!

Bacchus
03-23-2013, 08:41 PM
Okay, I'm in the process of making a decision in my life, and need some advice.

I am currently living in Texas, and I hate it here, only reason I moved here was to be near my family. However, there are family issues and I really want to move away.
First, let me say I got involved with a great woman, and we got engaged not too long ago. She moved here in Texas to be with me, but alas, she hates it here too. Now, I don't want to get in too many details, but she had a terrible childhood that caused her to have to drop out of high school, but is set on getting a GED to get into college. She is 22, and I am 25 with a Bachelor's in Accounting from University of Oklahoma. I have an okay job for a private company here, but could definitely get a better one with the economy picking up. She hasn't had a job because she continues to get hired at a place and either not like it, or the pay/hours are **** and no use working it for getting the price back to cover the gas.
Also, she has a 4 year old daughter, so makes it tougher.
Now, she comes from the East Coast, Myrtle Beach, SC. She is very easy-going, comfortable and I'll say "care-free". Most people over there are. Well, she tells me we can move to Myrtle Beach, cut our expenses down, she can easily get a job as a server, and she has contacts and a staffing agency that can get me a job in a month. Basically, become financially stable because we aren't here.
Now, my parents/family will be upset due to the fact that I am leaving a job, known income, to go someplace where there is no guarantee, and also have no money.

I know I'm leaving some stuff out, but basically, I want to hear what other people think of moving out there, which she wants to do in June, for what she feels is the right thing to do, and will make us stable and happy.

In all honesty dude, you are 25 years-old do whatever the **** YOU WANT TO DO. Your parents and girl friend will get over it or they won't. You're young, do whatever you want. Now is the time to do what you want. Later in life you will not have these options.

Tombstone RJ
03-23-2013, 08:46 PM
lol...

RhymesayersDU
03-23-2013, 10:22 PM
In all honesty dude, you are 25 years-old do whatever the **** YOU WANT TO DO. Your parents and girl friend will get over it or they won't. You're young, do whatever you want. Now is the time to do what you want. Later in life you will not have these options.

lolwat

Kaylore
03-23-2013, 10:27 PM
In all honesty dude, you are 25 years-old do whatever the **** YOU WANT TO DO. Your parents and girl friend will get over it or they won't. You're young, do whatever you want. Now is the time to do what you want. Later in life you will not have these options.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg/300px-Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

Bacchus
03-23-2013, 10:30 PM
25 years-old...what I would pay to be 25 years old again. Dude, go walk across country, be homeless, join the peace Corp, Do whatever you want to do. When you turn 30 you start to lose your will and you start thinking about the future, at 25, **** the future. If you want to go and get tied down with this lady and her kid do it but if you move all the way across country for her you have yourself a family and it is time to hand in that freedom card and start thinking about setting up a college fund for the rugrat and a retirement fund for you and the old lady. You'll have to buy life insurance to make sure if you get decapitated in a traffic accident while on the way to work your family will be covered all that other responsible fun ****.

At 25 do you want a family?

Bacchus
03-23-2013, 10:30 PM
yes i am drunk..... VODKA COKES BABY!!!! I am celebrating!!!

Bacchus
03-23-2013, 10:32 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg/300px-Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg

You're close to 25 but you're a morman so you don't count.

baja
03-23-2013, 10:58 PM
You could not pay me enough to be 25 again unless of course I would retain what I know now and continue to build on that life experience.

spdirty
03-23-2013, 11:03 PM
God I love this thread. I can't figure out how it isn't in the ring of fame.

spdirty
03-23-2013, 11:06 PM
You could not pay me enough to be 25 again unless of course I would retain what I know now and continue to build on that life experience.

I'd love to go back to 2005 when I was 25. Make a few truckloads of money.

baja
03-23-2013, 11:16 PM
I'd love to go back to 2005 when I was 25. Make a few truckloads of money.

If you are thinking to go back in time in order to capitalize on your knowledge of future events you would be disappointed to learn you had no knowledge of the future because it has not happened yet. ;D

Bacchus
03-23-2013, 11:30 PM
If you are thinking to go back in time in order to capitalize on your knowledge of future events you would be disappointed to learn you had no knowledge of the future because it has not happened yet. ;D

well, that would suck because I would make all the same dumb decisions!!!!

24champ
03-23-2013, 11:54 PM
25 years-old...what I would pay to be 25 years old again. Dude, go walk across country, be homeless, join the peace Corp, Do whatever you want to do. When you turn 30 you start to lose your will and you start thinking about the future, at 25, **** the future. If you want to go and get tied down with this lady and her kid do it but if you move all the way across country for her you have yourself a family and it is time to hand in that freedom card and start thinking about setting up a college fund for the rugrat and a retirement fund for you and the old lady. You'll have to buy life insurance to make sure if you get decapitated in a traffic accident while on the way to work your family will be covered all that other responsible fun ****.

At 25 do you want a family?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1m97yUn7jKc/ULo2kLNPUHI/AAAAAAAADlw/trPGRA9bFQg/s1600/Marty-McFly.gif

Bacchus
03-24-2013, 12:02 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1m97yUn7jKc/ULo2kLNPUHI/AAAAAAAADlw/trPGRA9bFQg/s1600/Marty-McFly.gif

LOL....you ready to spend the rest of your life with this woman?

If yes, then do not listen to your family. She is the most important thing.

If hesitant than DON'T leave your support system and go move away with her.

that should be less confusing!!

DBroncos4life
03-24-2013, 06:03 AM
LOL....you ready to spend the rest of your life with this woman?

If yes, then do not listen to your family. She is the most important thing.

If hesitant than DON'T leave your support system and go move away with her.

that should be less confusing!!

I agree. I mean what is the worst that could happen!!!! Ha!

TheChamp24
03-24-2013, 07:57 AM
In all honesty dude, you are 25 years-old do whatever the **** YOU WANT TO DO. Your parents and girl friend will get over it or they won't. You're young, do whatever you want. Now is the time to do what you want. Later in life you will not have these options.

http://exitpursuedbyabear.net/wp-content/uploads/DavidTennantCryingintheRain.gif

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 08:00 AM
http://bluntobject.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/double-facepalm.jpg


The caption of this photo posted on page 6 was "you showed her this thread?" lol

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 08:02 AM
Moving to SC = Fail

Showing her this thread = Epic Fail

The gems from this thread are just awesome. lol

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 08:21 AM
I didn't get on this thread until page 11. My first reply was in reply to TheReverend's advice.

==================

Originally Posted by TheReverend
Break up. Dead serious.

Originally Posted by Jason in LA
I 100% agree.

==============

Also, the best piece of advice that he was given was to not knock her up. If he just followed that one thing then he was have avoided this mess. I said this back on page 11.

"He's going down a road that will screw up his life. If he continues down this road he's going to knock her up and then he'll really be stuck. Hopefully he doesn't knock her up any time soon, so he better wrap it up every single time."

Yep, it was easy to see where this one was going (if this whole thing is real).

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 08:32 AM
...

We really outdid ourselves with this thread!

Everybody should go back and read it again. There are some awesome replies.

***Damn the photo didn't show up in the quote. It's on page 12.

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 08:40 AM
This thread is still going?

At this point, I assume McFoneco is talking to Blue about a new forum name. ;D


Damn, this from page 12.

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 08:44 AM
You can be mad at me for giving you good advice all you want. I don't need to retaliate at all. Life is apparently doing a better job at that than I ever could.

Damn!

Page 12 was good!

nyuk nyuk
03-24-2013, 10:16 AM
Okay, I'm in the process of making a decision in my life, and need some advice.

I am currently living in Texas, and I hate it here, only reason I moved here was to be near my family. However, there are family issues and I really want to move away.
First, let me say I got involved with a great woman, and we got engaged not too long ago. She moved here in Texas to be with me, but alas, she hates it here too. Now, I don't want to get in too many details, but she had a terrible childhood that caused her to have to drop out of high school, but is set on getting a GED to get into college. She is 22, and I am 25 with a Bachelor's in Accounting from University of Oklahoma. I have an okay job for a private company here, but could definitely get a better one with the economy picking up. She hasn't had a job because she continues to get hired at a place and either not like it, or the pay/hours are **** and no use working it for getting the price back to cover the gas.
Also, she has a 4 year old daughter, so makes it tougher.
Now, she comes from the East Coast, Myrtle Beach, SC. She is very easy-going, comfortable and I'll say "care-free". Most people over there are. Well, she tells me we can move to Myrtle Beach, cut our expenses down, she can easily get a job as a server, and she has contacts and a staffing agency that can get me a job in a month. Basically, become financially stable because we aren't here.
Now, my parents/family will be upset due to the fact that I am leaving a job, known income, to go someplace where there is no guarantee, and also have no money.

I know I'm leaving some stuff out, but basically, I want to hear what other people think of moving out there, which she wants to do in June, for what she feels is the right thing to do, and will make us stable and happy.

Well I think it's immature of her to quit a job for not liking it. You cannot do that, especially when you have a child to support.

As far as the rest, I don't see the big deal with it. Life has its unknowns and you only live once.

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 11:01 AM
This thread really should be sent to the ring of fame soon. It's one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen, and unless it gets moved to it's rightful place, it runs the risk of being forgotten by some and lost to all...

***above quote was posted in 2010.***

Naw, this thread won't be forgotten about. lol

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 11:09 AM
Well as long as the guy doesn't have a kid with her at least he has an exit strategy.

Yeah, about that exit strategy.

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 11:13 AM
I think the one thing we've all learned from this thread is that it generally ain't such a hot idea to ask for serious relationship advice on an internet sports board.

Other than not knocking her up, this is probably the second best piece of advice in this thread.

broncocalijohn
03-24-2013, 11:23 AM
If you are thinking to go back in time in order to capitalize on your knowledge of future events you would be disappointed to learn you had no knowledge of the future because it has not happened yet. ;D

plus, he would be 25 and drunk and forget what he learned in the future. ;D

I made good decisions at 25 and while there are some I would change in a heartbeat, I wouldn't want to take that chance and screw it all up. Live and learn. Only thing with the OP is he got some great advice and decided not to take it. I hope those, like Baja, realized how wrong they were when they first gave out their horrible experiences to screw this young lad up.

broncocalijohn
03-24-2013, 11:25 AM
Well I think it's immature of her to quit a job for not liking it. You cannot do that, especially when you have a child to support.

As far as the rest, I don't see the big deal with it. Life has its unknowns and you only live once.

I am quoting this before nyuk nyuk erases it for not realizing that this is a really old thread and his advice is horribly wrong as you read through it.

broncocalijohn
03-24-2013, 11:29 AM
Agreed. Nothing to do here but follow your heart. You parctically have nothing to lose at this age, and everything to gain.

Front page quote you wish you didn't say! So many right and wrong.

Nothing to lose? correct except your dignity, freedom, brain, money, etc. You gain a headache, parental responsibilities all alone, debt, etc.


Great advice their Dear Abby.

underrated29
03-24-2013, 11:51 AM
Wow... What similiar situations you and I have/had...


Here is the thing dude. I already know what you are going to do. So do you. Now the good news is, you will learn a FREAKING TON from this. Bad news is that you are not going to make it as a couple and you will feel that you wasted a good portion of your life.....Trust me on this. read this whole thing and you will know why I say this... And dont use this as motivation. I did when people said the same to me, but you can not control the other person.

On the other hand you can not experience the learning part yourself but take everyones word for it.

Think of it like this. You can see a piece of candy that looks good to eat, yet everyone says no do not do it, it fell in dog ****. But it looks clean and you really want that candy and it doesnt smell like dog****. So you either eat it and taste the fact that its dog ****, or you can take everyones word for it. On one hand you will learn it yourself and experience it which is much more powerful, but at the same time suffer through the bad part. Or you can learn that it is bad but not as much as if you ate it.



I was similiar to you. I am 25 my ex is 22. We were best friends since highschool. She dropped out of HS, was a model for Mac (make up company)...Could have gotten a great job paying 75k a year, but kept putting off the GED. For some reason or another there was always a reason or excuse. She even went in to take the test and the fire alarms went off and the building had to be evacuated. Some things are signs bro. watch out for them...I went to school and became a badass- but dont get paid like one...yet.....But essentially the same thing and scenario.....Long story short, we are not together have a 3 year old son....... I learned sooo much over those 4 years that when I think i wasted my life (which I did somewhat) its not bad because I learned so much....Having said that, I think I would have been a lot better off just listening to everyone who is older, mainly my parents...... She is now married again with another kid, still no ged and now she has no job..When we were together she bounced around jobs too. Luckily i was good with money and how to use it/spend it.....I am guarantee that she will be divorced again and homeless within 2 years, probably by this fall.

I can not tell you what it is, but somehow, even though they seem more mature than you...I know mine was.. They are not.22 year old girls are 22 year old girls. They dont understand life yet... I know that wont make sense, but it is sooo freaking true its retarded.

The part about risk and diving head first..I agree with, but your situation is not one of them... Move somewhere, if you want, not because of her, and dont give up a good job or anything else...Ask yourself this.. Where would she be right now if she was not with you? She is probably a great person, but that answer right there should tell you everything you need to know. THe answer is simple, she would be with another guy, latched to him- same situation... That situation will always follow her around no matter who she is with until she gets her **** in gear. Girls like that normally do not until they hit rock rock bottom. And she never will until you are out of the picture, and the cycle will always continue as is now until she hits rock bottom. Which once again will not occur until you are out of the picture.

I know that sounds rough and I am SURE she is a really really great sweet girl. But just because she makes you feel good about yourself does not justify anything else.

My advice after all that crap----Do what you want, as you know what you will. Just be prepared to learn and learn as much as you can. In the end you will be a good person and a better one. And dont get down on yourself if things dont work out how you want. They rarely do. But they do always work themselves out in the end.

Good luck.





Hmmm. Looks like that was pretty solid after all. Page 4.


So- is she with that other guy still or did she latch on to a new one? I bet a new one. Just like I said.

nyuk nyuk
03-24-2013, 11:53 AM
You could not pay me enough to be 25 again unless of course I would retain what I know now and continue to build on that life experience.

Me, too. I wouldn't want to go through all that again.

Jason in LA
03-24-2013, 12:00 PM
Moral to the story:

Don't ever, ever, ever seek long term relationships with a crazy woman

Really dude?

nyuk nyuk
03-24-2013, 12:03 PM
Don't ever, ever, ever seek long term relationships with a crazy woman

Sorry it came out this way. I couldn't imagine there were no warning signs in there early on.

jerseyboiler120
03-24-2013, 12:45 PM
I missed this one for the first 11 pages. But at the age of 44 I've moved more times than anyone I've ever met. Long distance moves too. I've done it for work I've done it for what I thought was love. Couple thoughts:

I've had my share of women who seemed to not be able to get the right break work wise. This usually means they're not trying, and are looking ultimately to be taken care of, especially if they already have a kid.

Trying to get a job in another state is extremely difficult since the economy tanked. They won't even look at your résumé once they see its out of state; they do it want to cover any relo costs when they have literally thousands of candidates within a few miles. I've tried this one both ways and in good and bad job markets.

Lemme know if you wanna hear more.

baja
03-24-2013, 12:47 PM
plus, he would be 25 and drunk and forget what he learned in the future. ;D

I made good decisions at 25 and while there are some I would change in a heartbeat, I wouldn't want to take that chance and screw it all up. Live and learn. Only thing with the OP is he got some great advice and decided not to take it. I hope those, like Baja, realized how wrong they were when they first gave out their horrible experiences to screw this young lad up.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/search.php?searchid=107395&pp=35&page=2

DENVERDUI55
03-25-2013, 12:58 AM
IMoral to the story:
Everything happens for a reason(I have a gorgeous, wonderful, amazing daughter)
Don't ever, ever, ever seek long term relationships with a crazy woman

I thought it would be don't knock up a crazy woman.

Jason in LA
03-25-2013, 02:38 PM
I moved out to California with a girl...she stopped paying rent because she got fired, then I found out she cheated on me with a neighbor. I called a moving company to pack everything I owned the next day (all the furniture, dishes, bed set, etc..) and drove home immediately. Didn't regret the move or the experience but at a certain point you have to know when to fold your hand.

first person I called was my father when I found out...he said point blank what he would do...i followed suit and it was the best thing I ever did...no drama, no police, no fighting nothing....just a nice long cross country drive with my dog to mentally untangle myself...got home and was ready to rock 3 days laters

The thing that makes this story work so well is that there was no kid involved. So it was an easy and clean break. That's one reason why so many of us adviced the TheChamp24 not to knock this woman up. It makes for an extremely messy break up.

Tombstone RJ
03-25-2013, 02:53 PM
The thing that makes this story work so well is that there was no kid involved. So it was an easy and clean break. That's one reason why so many of us adviced the TheChamp24 not to knock this woman up. It makes for an extremely messy break up.

I don't feel like going back though this thread but didn't TheGimp24 admit that this child might not even be his? Then he refused a test to find out? Now he's saying "I have a beautiful kid, thanks to crazy woman, so it's all worth it." I'm calling BS.

This guy is playing us, but it's funny nonetheless.

Jason in LA
03-25-2013, 03:25 PM
I don't feel like going back though this thread but didn't TheGimp24 admit that this child might not even be his? Then he refused a test to find out? Now he's saying "I have a beautiful kid, thanks to crazy woman, so it's all worth it." I'm calling BS.

This guy is playing us, but it's funny nonetheless.

I'm on the fence on whether or not this story is true. I actually find it believable, but it is unbelievable that somebody would post it on the internet, and then continue to give updates. Each update makes the story even worse.

A number of us have been with crazy women who made fools out of us (not to the extent of what the OP says he went through). How many of us would give the details of how bad a woman did us?

SonOfLe-loLang
03-25-2013, 03:46 PM
I'm on the fence on whether or not this story is true. I actually find it believable, but it is unbelievable that somebody would post it on the internet, and then continue to give updates. Each update makes the story even worse.

A number of us have been with crazy women who made fools out of us (not to the extent of what the OP says he went through). How many of us would give the details of how bad a woman did us?

Its not that atypical. Putting it on the internet in this form compartmentalizes it and makes it a story that he can distance himself from. After going through that kind of thing, you need an outlet. While I, personally, wouldn't go this route, its still a relatively safe way of dealing with it.

That One Guy
03-25-2013, 04:40 PM
Front page quote you wish you didn't say! So many right and wrong.

Nothing to lose? correct except your dignity, freedom, brain, money, etc. You gain a headache, parental responsibilities all alone, debt, etc.


Great advice their Dear Abby.

You can walk up to the edge of the Grand Canyon but that doesn't mean you have to keep walking over the edge. Trusting the gut and taking a plunge into a new adventure isn't always a bad thing. You just have to not be so naive as to keep digging deeper when you realize that it wasn't the right decision.

All that said, it was definitely more fun when the pile on happened. I won't deny that, at all.

That One Guy
03-25-2013, 04:42 PM
Its not that atypical. Putting it on the internet in this form compartmentalizes it and makes it a story that he can distance himself from. After going through that kind of thing, you need an outlet. While I, personally, wouldn't go this route, its still a relatively safe way of dealing with it.

I don't think it's even that complicated. I think it's just attention whoring. Remember how many times MightySmurf came on to tell us about the poon he almost got? He and the OP became instant OM memes and were community celebrities.

Broncos_OTM
03-25-2013, 07:52 PM
Some people never see the forest through the trees

Jason in LA
03-26-2013, 02:57 PM
Actually, when I was starting on the custody case, my lawyer suggested a paternity test. Well, I looked into it, and they are, for the court acceptance, around $1,000-$1,500. I fully believe this is my daughter, I love her, she does have some resemblance to me.
Is there a chance its not mine? Yes, there is a chance. But there is more evidence pointing to its mine, than not. And upon winning the custody case, one of the things that was established was me being the child's father. My name is on the birth certificate.

That makes me cringe. A test is about $400. I'm not sure what level of testing that the courts need, but you can find out one way or the other for much cheaper than $1,000.

I'm not sure if you're afraid of the answer, but it is something that you should know. If the child isn't yours, you can still raise the child and not tell anybody that you had the test done.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-26-2013, 03:11 PM
I don't think it's even that complicated. I think it's just attention whoring. Remember how many times MightySmurf came on to tell us about the poon he almost got? He and the OP became instant OM memes and were community celebrities.

Probably a little bit of both!

Jason in LA
03-26-2013, 03:11 PM
Yeah, but are you positive she's the mother?

Damn, that was mind blowing for a second. lol

Jason in LA
03-26-2013, 03:18 PM
Nothing to lose? Just one of so many ****ed up replies given to him. You are all co-dependent at fault. So much failure and even though I gave the correct advice, maybe a few pages too late (with Jason from LA). If you don't know Leykis, married to be or not, figure out some of the rules and then you can GTFO! Leykis 100 ... google it!




Leykis 101 could have saved this guy. But he probably would not have listened to that advice. Is Leykis ever going to get back on the air?

El Minion
03-26-2013, 04:10 PM
Leykis 101 could have saved this guy. But he probably would not have listened to that advice. Is Leykis ever going to get back on the air?


Tom Leykis returns — over the Internet (http://articles.latimes.com/print/2012/jul/01/entertainment/la-ca-tom-leykis-20120701)
The shock jock, who used to be on KLSX-FM, has brought his show back online with minimal staff and resources. This could be the future of radio.

July 01, 2012|By Steve Carney, Special to the Los Angeles Times

Tom Leykis, the shock jock sidelined for more than three years after his radio station dropped talk for pop music, is infamous for persuading women to lift their tops and for coaching men to spend as little money as possible on dates. Critics dubbed him a Neanderthal. Now he's being called a revolutionary.

Silenced by the changeover at KLSX-FM (97.1) in February 2009, Leykis has resurrected his show online with a shoestring operation that he believes can take on the radio conglomerates — the latest in a cadre of stars staking out new territory for themselves.


"My job here is not to serve the corporate master. I am the corporation here," Leykis said while giving his "mission statement" on a recent show. "I reserve the right to talk about anything I find interesting."'

PHOTOS: Celebrity portraits by the Times

After three years off the radio, Leykis has resumed his weekday show on the Internet, once considered merely the realm of amateurs and vanity programs. Now he's streaming his show free on http://www.BlowMeUpTom.com, a reference to the tradition of fans' requests that Leykis end their calls with recorded explosions, among other sound effects. He broadcasts live weekdays from 3 to 6 p.m., sometimes 7, with continuous repeats until the following day's new show.

The Internet show began April 2, and at the end of its first week, 401,180 listeners had tuned in for at least five minutes. The first month, fans tuned in from 102 countries — England, El Salvador, Uganda, Australia, the Philippines and Mexico, among others.

"It's an example of how creative talent is adapting to a new reality," said Perry Michael Simon, news, talk and sports editor at the online radio-news journal AllAccess.com. "The number of outlets they've got on traditional media have shrunk. It's wise of anybody on the talent side to be entrepreneurial."

PHOTOS: Celebrity portraits by the Times

Behind an anonymous storefront in Burbank, with printers and auto-repair shops for neighbors, Leykis broadcasts from a small studio, dark and spare, standing at a crescent-shaped desk and still wearing his trademark dark glasses in the dim lighting. His KLSX show also aired weekday afternoons, and many fans listened while driving home during rush hour — not sitting in front of a computer. Is he simply missing out on that whole swath of his audience?

During a break, Leykis holds up an Android smartphone he'd been twirling in his hand.

"This," he said, "is a radio."

A few finger swipes, and he's turned on an application streaming radio stations and programs from around the world, with presets for his favorites — like a car radio with a global reach. He presses an on-screen button, and the current episode of "The Tom Leykis Show" starts playing. Plug that into a dashboard, and it's as if he never left the airwaves.

"This is a cultural breakthrough," said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers magazine, the trade journal of the talk-radio industry. "You're on the same magic box that major corporations spend millions of dollars to broadcast through. That's a revolution."

And Simon noted that what listeners care about is the content coming out of their speakers, not whether it originated from a broadcast antenna on Mt. Wilson, a satellite overhead or a cellphone tower beaming an Internet stream.

"While the traditional media are shrinking, the opportunities to get your product out there have never been greater," Simon said.

In the short term, online audiences will run smaller than those for radio, he said, but in the long run "there's a much greater upside in terms of numbers."

Leykis is by no means the first radio refugee to take his program to the Internet. Almost immediately after their station switched formats in 2009, his former KLSX colleague Adam Carolla started offering a podcast that emulated his morning show. Among others, former Air America talk host Lionel and longtime Chicago radio personality Steve Dahl podcast regularly via their own websites.

With a podcast, listeners can go to a website or iTunes and download the latest show, then listen to it at their leisure. Likewise, the hosts can produce and post the shows whenever they want and aren't required to be in front of a microphone at a studio every weekday at 3 p.m. sharp.

Leykis' streaming model, on the other hand, better simulates the live radio experience for the audience, with the interaction of callers, host and subsequent callers reacting to earlier comments.

"He's basically offering a radio show without the antenna," Simon said. With podcasts, "there's a delay that takes the communal experience out of it."

Leykis' new show is much like his old one. He gives advice to mostly male callers – who refer to him as "dad" – on how to negotiate their world of conniving gold diggers, where nice guys finish last in the dating game. During his Thursday "Leykis 101" segments, the "professor" tells women "how men really think," and tells men how to get more women, without spending money on them. But he said part of his new autonomy is to explore other, non-relationship topics – whether mocking Mike Huckabee's radio show or riffing on the anachronism of the phone book or the barbarism of the Kelly Thomas beating in Fullerton.

"Frankly, I don't think the average listener wants me to talk about the same thing all of the time," he said on-air one day. "I refuse to be a cartoon character."

Simon said it's too soon to tell whether one method will eventually win out with listeners, streaming or podcasting. Leykis is hedging his bets and also ensuring income by offering premium subscriptions for $99.99 a year, which includes on-demand access to all previous shows.

He's also selling merchandise and advertising on the air and on the website and has a dedicated link toAmazon.com, through which he gets a cut of anything purchased. He owns outright the computers, sound boards and other scant equipment he needs and works with only three other people — executive producer Gary Zabransky, engineer Art Webb and screener Dean DeMilio, all of whom return from his KLSX show.

Leykis said he will have spent about $1 million to get the show up and running and expects to make a profit by the end of the first year — more than some of the nation's biggest broadcasters can say about their bottom lines. He doesn't have the expense of an FCC license, transmitters or antennas or any debt from buying new stations.

For example, Clear Channel, which operates the nation's largest radio chain with 850 stations, had a profit of $330 million on revenue of $1.3 billion in the first quarter of this year but is saddled with nearly $20 billion in debt from a leveraged buyout in 2008.

"Now you've got these companies that are so over-leveraged," Leykis said, "they have turned the radio business into a bunch of scrap metal and homogenized formats."

KLSX had been the longtime home of Howard Stern until the "King of All Media" bolted for Sirius satellite radio in January 2006. KLSX then struggled until February 2009, when parent company CBS Radio flipped the station to the Top 40 "Amp 97.1" format it still broadcasts, which led to an immediate ratings jump.

"I didn't know what I wanted to do next," Leykis said, and for the rest of 2009 he "went to veg" on his 20-acre ranch in northern Santa Barbara County. His CBS contract paid him for three more years, so "I always had the option of not coming back. I could have stopped."

"It became apparent that anyone with a laptop and a cheap microphone was doing a podcast," he said, but few had his experience or following. He saw a chance to circumvent the traditional business model and "create a radio station without a transmitter."

He spent the next six months studying digital content, streams and podcasts. "I wanted to be one of the first to claim some of that beachfront property."

He used an e-mail list of 10,000 culled from his former show and 35,000 followers on Facebook and Twitter to spread the word about his return.

"It feels fabulous. I haven't worked this hard in 20 years," he said, keeping his hand in every aspect of the do-it-yourself radio station — even standing in line at Burbank Water and Power with a deposit check, to get utilities turned on at the studio.

"I have no time to feel like a revolutionary," Leykis said, grinning. "Someone's got to go to Costco and get paper towels."

nyuk nyuk
03-26-2013, 04:13 PM
Leykis is a mental case, and a homely ****er to boot.

Willynowei
02-03-2014, 04:52 PM
bumped because our team ****ing blew it so why the **** not?

Also, I'd like to know. Was a DNA test ever done to confirm fatherhood?

McDman
05-10-2014, 08:38 PM
It's been just over 4 years since this gem.

Dedhed
05-10-2014, 08:46 PM
It's been just over 4 years since this gem.

This fact makes me feel old,

McDman
05-10-2014, 09:20 PM
This fact makes me feel old,

It is quite depressing.

Dedhed
05-10-2014, 09:25 PM
It is quite depressing.

Well, at least we can read a few pages of this thread to remind us that things can always be worse. I feel better already.

stopgap
05-10-2014, 10:40 PM
Well, I read the full thread for once. For some reason I always stayed away from it.

My question is not related but it was brought up. What's the story behind this ongoing 'Ghostbusters' joke?

DomCasual
05-10-2014, 10:48 PM
Well, I read the full thread for once. For some reason I always stayed away from it.

My question is not related but it was brought up. What's the story behind this ongoing 'Ghostbusters' joke?

And, a follow-up.

Why is it said that, "The child enters the theater to watch Ghostbusters; but when he exits, the door opens straight onto Crack Alley?"

stopgap
05-10-2014, 10:53 PM
And, a follow-up.

Why is it said that, "The child enters the theater to watch Ghostbusters; but when he exits, the door opens straight onto Crack Alley?"

I know I am not up to speed obviously. I am still lost and just wanted a quick summary so I can feel like part of the team. ;)

Archer81
05-10-2014, 11:22 PM
Well, I read the full thread for once. For some reason I always stayed away from it.

My question is not related but it was brought up. What's the story behind this ongoing 'Ghostbusters' joke?


A poster believed (seriously) that Ghostbusters was a horrible thing to show children under the age of 10.

Mockery rightfully ensued.


:Broncos:

McDman
05-11-2014, 05:10 AM
I know I am not up to speed obviously. I am still lost and just wanted a quick summary so I can feel like part of the team. ;)

He let someone watch hia kid and when he picked them up the kid had been allowed to watch Ghostbusters. He came on here venting about how irresponsible it was and got blasted for it.

Drunk Monkey
05-11-2014, 05:28 AM
And, a follow-up.

Why is it said that, "The child enters the theater to watch Ghostbusters; but when he exits, the door opens straight onto Crack Alley?"

Meth Alley

rugbythug
05-11-2014, 05:55 AM
A poster believed (seriously) that Ghostbusters was a horrible thing to show children under the age of 10.

Mockery rightfully ensued.


:Broncos:

He is only 8 now. I think he was 4 at the time.

R8R H8R
05-11-2014, 09:04 AM
Just finished entire thread. I can't believe I waited 4 years to read it in full. Epic thread, and I wish I had gotten in on it on day one. And I can almost believe it too, because p***y is one hell of a drug.

Well, all but one part. The allegations by the step-daughter to the day care center is a bit over the top. That part of the story gives me pause on the whole thing. But an entertaining read, nonetheless, even if not true.

But I do have a question: was it ever established who rockpapersissors is/was?

Somebody ruled out HotRod. Any other guesses out there?

Hamrob
05-11-2014, 10:00 AM
I'm with Rev on this one. Break up. Put your chin up and don't look back.

Find someone who is also college educated and shares the same goals as you do.

Then, do some research and figure out where you want to live.

Look, if you're in a relationship, it has to be a give and take thing where you can each count on the other...not be one sided.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy
05-11-2014, 10:22 AM
Love the people posting like this thread was started this morning LOL

ZONA
05-11-2014, 10:24 AM
This bump was a very stupid idea. Let it die already and move on.

McDman
05-11-2014, 10:41 AM
I'm with Rev on this one. Break up. Put your chin up and don't look back.

Find someone who is also college educated and shares the same goals as you do.

Then, do some research and figure out where you want to live.

Look, if you're in a relationship, it has to be a give and take thing where you can each count on the other...not be one sided.

Little late to the party.

McDman
05-11-2014, 10:42 AM
This bump was a very stupid idea. Let it die already and move on.

Go listen to your classic rock Gary Wright albums.

ZONA
05-11-2014, 10:46 AM
Go listen to your classic rock Gary Wright albums.

You bumped it just because it's about 4 years old. Who f'n cares. Rule of thumb , there should be some decent reason why to bump threads. Not just because it's "old" and you think we all need to be reminded of it.

McDman
05-11-2014, 10:58 AM
You bumped it just because it's about 4 years old. Who f'n cares. Rule of thumb , there should be some decent reason why to bump threads. Not just because it's "old" and you think we all need to be reminded of it.

And yet you took the time to respond not once but twice. Is the thread taking up too much space on your monitor? Why click on it?

DomCasual
05-11-2014, 11:16 AM
Meth Alley

Shoot. You're right. That could have spelled disaster!

cutthemdown
05-11-2014, 11:20 AM
And yet you took the time to respond not once but twice. Is the thread taking up too much space on your monitor? Why click on it?

Sometimes the board trips out and posters start policing **** all over the place. It's a strange place you never know when people will make fun of a plane crash or get pissed because someone made an off color joke.

You don't know when people will get upset over a thread bump and think it's funny, or come on the thread and post why are you idiots bumping this thread.

Or sometimes a person posts a non football thread in season and it's ok, other times you just ruined the football purity of the temple of orange.

Thats why you just have to call them pussies and move on. ROFL!

baja
05-11-2014, 11:26 AM
Sometimes the board trips out and posters start policing **** all over the place. It's a strange place you never know when people will make fun of a plane crash or get pissed because someone made an off color joke.

You don't know when people will get upset over a thread bump and think it's funny, or come on the thread and post why are you idiots bumping this thread.

Or sometimes a person posts a non football thread in season and it's ok, other times you just ruined the football purity of the temple of orange.

Thats why you just have to call them pussies and move on. ROFL!

The first three posts determine the direction and flavor of the thread at least initially, in a long thread it will weave and bend like the great Mississippi.

JCMElway
05-11-2014, 01:53 PM
In before page 36!

How did I miss this thread anyway?

Bronc0guy
05-11-2014, 02:09 PM
I just finished reading this whole thread. Why isn't it in the ROF?

oubronco
05-11-2014, 02:10 PM
Pussy is a powerful drug

RockPaperSissors
05-11-2014, 02:23 PM
You ass munchers ruined my life with your lawn chair advise. I get an email every time you post here and I will see you at a tailgate and you won't like it. Sex and love are not always the same thing . remember that next time you ruin someones life.

rugbythug
05-11-2014, 02:47 PM
You ass munchers ruined my life with your lawn chair advise. I get an email every time you post here and I will see you at a tailgate and you won't like it. Sex and love are not always the same thing . remember that next time you ruin someones life.

If it was so easy to ruin someones life I would do it more often.

ShiftyEyedWaterboy
05-11-2014, 02:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/V78WCg5.gif

McDman
05-11-2014, 03:10 PM
I just finished reading this whole thread. Why isn't it in the ROF?

No idea. It is just so good.