Soul-Bronco
04-25-2010, 05:02 PM
Found this on the DB message board, A gator alum talking about tebow. Very interesting !!! :thumbsup:
I'm not a big NFL fan or analyst, but I'm a diehard gator alum and fan that's watched every game of Tebow and followed closely to real-time practice reports. Here's the good and the bad of what you're getting:
First, many of you likely love this pick, while many hate it, but as crazy as it sounds right now, eventually you will all love Tim Tebow.
-Drive: The guy is more driven than any football player I've seen. He'll work as hard or harder than any player in the NFL, both in the locker room and on the field.
- Tebow, the person: He's so good it'll make you think he's fake, but he's not. You'll want your daughter to marry him and you'll want to meet him. In the offseason, he'll help the less fortunate, speak at prisons, spread his religion, and basically save the world. The problem is, the media will fall over over him and rivals will get sick of it and start resenting him for it, but it'll make you like him even more. In a world of Roethlisberger, Vick, and Lewis, Tebow is a breath of fresh air. I love what he does and stands for, and I'm not even religious. The NFL needs more Tebows.
- Leadership: I've never seen a college football player with better leadership skills in my lifetime. He's has the mentality of a crazed middle linebacker. I've seen him blow up a defensive huddle, knocking guys over and head butting defensive players in an effort to get them to force a defensive stoppage....which they did. The guy will force others to lift more, run more, work harder, study more film, and live right. It's an obsession and the entire team will be better focused and more prepared because of it. Hell, I'd run through a brick wall if the guy asked me too.
- Mechanics: As a gator fan, I've heard this to exhaustion. And yes, they're right, but it didn't matter much in college. He doesn't hold the ball near his ear, his wind up is so low that the ball drops to his knee and takes forever to arrive. The strange thing is, I've seen video of tebow in college camps (pre college) throwing the ball the proper way, which is exactly the same as the new changes he's made (Tebow 2.0), but I have no idea if he'll revert back in times of trouble when he's playing.
- Interceptions: The guy hates to get picked, to the point of he'll take the sack or run when he should otherwise throw it. It's almost as if he's timid, however that's the style of our coaching staff so I'm not sure if it's him or our coaches forcing this on him. Either way, he always lives to fight another day, sometimes when you wish he wouldn't and you're tired of punting.
- Wildcat formation: Understand that Tebow is very different from traditional QBs. He's not Matt Stafford or Mike Vick. Change your way of thinking. He's a one-of-a-kind fullback/qb/middle lb. If he's used properly, he'll wreck havoc on the NFL. If he's forced to learn and play within say, a west coast offense, he'll struggle. The first year at UF, he was used exclusively in the wildcat, a series here or there, and then 3rd or 4th and short, relieving our traditional pocket passer (Chris Leak). This was highly successful. The entire D would move up and he'd still convert the 4th down destroying the opponent emotionally. And at times, he'd surprise everyone throwing a surprisingly accurate bomb for an easy TD. He'd slither around some, run over others, and then hype the crowd like a gladiator, as everyone blew their mind in excitement on our way to a national championship. Without Tebow, we'd never have won it. He was the heart, sole, and the short conversions. His Sophomore season, he became our full time QB, and became our entire offense running away with the heisman. Our offense, which was basically a more complicated wildcat, was run very well by Tebow. The fans hated the playcalling, but loved what Tebow did with it. And yes, I truly believe he can run this offense in the NFL. He'll run it as well as Ronnie Brown of the Dolphins, but he'll throw it far better.
- Reading a defense: This is one of his weaknesses. On many occasions, he'll miss the wide open guy because he takes a while to go though his progressions. For whatever reason, we run a lot of 5 wide, and it typically ends up in a 7 yard sack. With protection, he'll read about 2 guys and then run, granted we have 3 other guys running around open. And when he reads it properly, he's late on a lot of occasions, thus the ball it thrown when it should arrive.
-Accuracy: Casual followers think he's inaccurate due to lack of spirals, however that's completely not true. He's deadly accurate. He's either on the money or he errs to apart of the field where the defender can't get it.
- Arm strength: This one is strange, he can lift more than any QB in NFL history, however he doesn't throw frozen ropes. Could be throwing motion, elasticity, lack of spiral, I don't know. Either way, his throws are very accurate, rarely picked off, but the ball a little too much loft and is rarely a perfect spiral. It's atypical, but it works extremely well. In fact, he had the highest all time qb rating in college football history, yes history. The myth of "Tebow can't throw" is just that, a myth. All the casual fans see him running over people in the highlight reels and then read his stats of 187 passing yards, 2 td, 0 ints, 111 yards rushing and 2 more TD, just makes everyone assume he can't throw. The reality is, he's arm is outstanding.
Overall, the guy broke every major SEC record, won 2 championships, won 2 maxwells, won a heismans, won 2 espys, AP player of the year, and finished with the highest QB rating of all time in college football. He has weaknesses and strengths that are both very atypical making him hard to evaluate on the pro level. If McDanials uses him properly (Like Minnesota did with Harvin), you've got a great one. If not, and he tries to force him into a pocket passer, you'll have a below average nfl qb, but still a great leader. Either way, you'll love him.
I hope this helps.
Good luck and go orange and blue!!!
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=166218
I'm not a big NFL fan or analyst, but I'm a diehard gator alum and fan that's watched every game of Tebow and followed closely to real-time practice reports. Here's the good and the bad of what you're getting:
First, many of you likely love this pick, while many hate it, but as crazy as it sounds right now, eventually you will all love Tim Tebow.
-Drive: The guy is more driven than any football player I've seen. He'll work as hard or harder than any player in the NFL, both in the locker room and on the field.
- Tebow, the person: He's so good it'll make you think he's fake, but he's not. You'll want your daughter to marry him and you'll want to meet him. In the offseason, he'll help the less fortunate, speak at prisons, spread his religion, and basically save the world. The problem is, the media will fall over over him and rivals will get sick of it and start resenting him for it, but it'll make you like him even more. In a world of Roethlisberger, Vick, and Lewis, Tebow is a breath of fresh air. I love what he does and stands for, and I'm not even religious. The NFL needs more Tebows.
- Leadership: I've never seen a college football player with better leadership skills in my lifetime. He's has the mentality of a crazed middle linebacker. I've seen him blow up a defensive huddle, knocking guys over and head butting defensive players in an effort to get them to force a defensive stoppage....which they did. The guy will force others to lift more, run more, work harder, study more film, and live right. It's an obsession and the entire team will be better focused and more prepared because of it. Hell, I'd run through a brick wall if the guy asked me too.
- Mechanics: As a gator fan, I've heard this to exhaustion. And yes, they're right, but it didn't matter much in college. He doesn't hold the ball near his ear, his wind up is so low that the ball drops to his knee and takes forever to arrive. The strange thing is, I've seen video of tebow in college camps (pre college) throwing the ball the proper way, which is exactly the same as the new changes he's made (Tebow 2.0), but I have no idea if he'll revert back in times of trouble when he's playing.
- Interceptions: The guy hates to get picked, to the point of he'll take the sack or run when he should otherwise throw it. It's almost as if he's timid, however that's the style of our coaching staff so I'm not sure if it's him or our coaches forcing this on him. Either way, he always lives to fight another day, sometimes when you wish he wouldn't and you're tired of punting.
- Wildcat formation: Understand that Tebow is very different from traditional QBs. He's not Matt Stafford or Mike Vick. Change your way of thinking. He's a one-of-a-kind fullback/qb/middle lb. If he's used properly, he'll wreck havoc on the NFL. If he's forced to learn and play within say, a west coast offense, he'll struggle. The first year at UF, he was used exclusively in the wildcat, a series here or there, and then 3rd or 4th and short, relieving our traditional pocket passer (Chris Leak). This was highly successful. The entire D would move up and he'd still convert the 4th down destroying the opponent emotionally. And at times, he'd surprise everyone throwing a surprisingly accurate bomb for an easy TD. He'd slither around some, run over others, and then hype the crowd like a gladiator, as everyone blew their mind in excitement on our way to a national championship. Without Tebow, we'd never have won it. He was the heart, sole, and the short conversions. His Sophomore season, he became our full time QB, and became our entire offense running away with the heisman. Our offense, which was basically a more complicated wildcat, was run very well by Tebow. The fans hated the playcalling, but loved what Tebow did with it. And yes, I truly believe he can run this offense in the NFL. He'll run it as well as Ronnie Brown of the Dolphins, but he'll throw it far better.
- Reading a defense: This is one of his weaknesses. On many occasions, he'll miss the wide open guy because he takes a while to go though his progressions. For whatever reason, we run a lot of 5 wide, and it typically ends up in a 7 yard sack. With protection, he'll read about 2 guys and then run, granted we have 3 other guys running around open. And when he reads it properly, he's late on a lot of occasions, thus the ball it thrown when it should arrive.
-Accuracy: Casual followers think he's inaccurate due to lack of spirals, however that's completely not true. He's deadly accurate. He's either on the money or he errs to apart of the field where the defender can't get it.
- Arm strength: This one is strange, he can lift more than any QB in NFL history, however he doesn't throw frozen ropes. Could be throwing motion, elasticity, lack of spiral, I don't know. Either way, his throws are very accurate, rarely picked off, but the ball a little too much loft and is rarely a perfect spiral. It's atypical, but it works extremely well. In fact, he had the highest all time qb rating in college football history, yes history. The myth of "Tebow can't throw" is just that, a myth. All the casual fans see him running over people in the highlight reels and then read his stats of 187 passing yards, 2 td, 0 ints, 111 yards rushing and 2 more TD, just makes everyone assume he can't throw. The reality is, he's arm is outstanding.
Overall, the guy broke every major SEC record, won 2 championships, won 2 maxwells, won a heismans, won 2 espys, AP player of the year, and finished with the highest QB rating of all time in college football. He has weaknesses and strengths that are both very atypical making him hard to evaluate on the pro level. If McDanials uses him properly (Like Minnesota did with Harvin), you've got a great one. If not, and he tries to force him into a pocket passer, you'll have a below average nfl qb, but still a great leader. Either way, you'll love him.
I hope this helps.
Good luck and go orange and blue!!!
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=166218