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Soul-Bronco
04-18-2010, 09:20 PM
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Source: Tebow to visit Broncos on Monday Posted: April 18th, 2010 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Denver Broncos, Josh McDaniels, Tim Tebow

Florida quarterback Tim Tebow will work out personally for Denver Broncos coach Josh McDaniels and general manager Brian Xanders on Monday, a team source tells NFL.com.

Among the teams Tebow has already visited are the Redskins, Bills, Seahawks, Patriots and, most recently, the Browns.


http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/18/sour...roncos-monday/


saw this on DB.com is this really tebows 2nd visit?

SoCalBronco
04-18-2010, 09:22 PM
It would be a worthwhile investment in Round 3 or so. There's a ton of talent there that can be developed over time. Props to Josh and the FO if they make the leap.

BroncoInferno
04-18-2010, 09:27 PM
It would be a worthwhile investment in Round 3 or so. There's a ton of talent there that can be developed over time. Props to Josh and the FO if they make the leap.

Good call. 3rd round or even late 2nd I would be OK with. That way you can try to make him into a QB but also experiment with him at other positions (I think he could be an excellent h-back) a la Kordell Stewart. Difference is Tebow I think is willing to switch for good if a coach asks him to, where as Kordell would not.

SoCalBronco
04-18-2010, 09:30 PM
Good call. 3rd round or even late 2nd I would be OK with. That way you can try to make him into a QB but also experiment with him at other positions (I think he could be an excellent h-back) a la Kordell Stewart. Difference is Tebow I think is willing to switch for good if a coach asks him to, where as Kordell would not.

To be honest...I would love to have Jake Locker next year....that's my favorite prospect...I'm upset he didn't come out this year, because there's no way we'll get him next year. But I appreciate and recognize Tebow's massive physical talent. I'm impressed by his drive and determination to get better, too. He's a winner. He's not just a runner. Back in HS, he set state records in passing. he was a Florida Mr. Football. They developed him very poorly at UF as a pure passer, but he's got the skill. It'll take two years, but I think the finished product will be a monster....esp with Tim's work ethic.

Elway777
04-18-2010, 09:33 PM
I think the broncos could trade down with Eagles for 24 and 36 picks and take Tebow either at 24 or 36.
I could also see them taken Dez Bryant then trading 43 pick and 3 rounder with Scheffler to move up in second to take Tebow.
I personally don't think Tebow makes it pass Minnesota so would have to use 24 pick on Him.

Soul-Bronco
04-18-2010, 09:33 PM
To be honest...I would love to have Jake Locker next year....that's my favorite prospect...I'm upset he didn't come out this year, because there's no way we'll get him next year. But I appreciate and recognize Tebow's massive physical talent. I'm impressed by his drive and determination to get better, too. He's a winner. He's not just a runner. Back in HS, he set state records in passing. he was a Florida Mr. Football. They developed him very poorly at UF as a pure passer, but he's got the skill. It'll take two years, but I think the finished product will be a monster....esp with Tim's work ethic.

Living in miami and being a UM fan i have had to watch tebow dominate 99% of the teams he played. As much as i hate the gators he is a ball player and most important A WINNER. wins big games, motivates his team and if Mcd could bring up matt cassel, he could help tebow alot

BroncoInferno
04-18-2010, 09:35 PM
To be honest...I would love to have Jake Locker next year....that's my favorite prospect...I'm upset he didn't come out this year, because there's no way we'll get him next year. But I appreciate and recognize Tebow's massive physical talent. I'm impressed by his drive and determination to get better, too. He's a winner. He's not just a runner. Back in HS, he set state records in passing. he was a Florida Mr. Football. They developed him very poorly at UF as a pure passer, but he's got the skill. It'll take two years, but I think the finished product will be a monster....esp with Tim's work ethic.

That's what I like about Tim, too...his work ethic. I don't know if you saw on NFL Network his work with Gruden, but Gruden was very impressed with how much Tebow responded and improved with coaching. I'm more than willing to give him a shot in the 2nd or 3rd. If he washes out as a Qb, you can try him as an h-back or full-back and likely get a quality player.

montrose
04-18-2010, 09:40 PM
The future...
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7271/tomdi.jpg

Broncoman13
04-18-2010, 09:41 PM
This is bad news. Tebow will be drafted in the first round. If the Broncos are truly interested, it is at #11!!! Hopefully this is a bit of gamesmanship from McD to try and get someone to either take him in front of us, or pursuade a team to move up to 11. Remember McD is fine with taking a player that other teams cover, I believe that was the case with Moreno, who was on his way to San Diego otherwise.

I like Tebow a lot and wouldn't mind him had we not just acquired Quinn and having Orton makes it a position that wouldn't make a lot of sense. So hopefully this is games we are playing. Could very well be the Jags we are messing with. They could be high on McClain as well as Tebow. In terms of selling tix, Jax would be very wise to draft Tebow, even in the top 10. McD showing interest prevents them from trading down and allowing someone like the Giants to leapfrog Denver for McClain. If the Jags don't think they can move down a few spots (15), they may feel pressure to just draft him at 10.

Elway777
04-18-2010, 10:02 PM
This is bad news. Tebow will be drafted in the first round. If the Broncos are truly interested, it is at #11!!! Hopefully this is a bit of gamesmanship from McD to try and get someone to either take him in front of us, or pursuade a team to move up to 11. Remember McD is fine with taking a player that other teams cover, I believe that was the case with Moreno, who was on his way to San Diego otherwise.

I like Tebow a lot and wouldn't mind him had we not just acquired Quinn and having Orton makes it a position that wouldn't make a lot of sense. So hopefully this is games we are playing. Could very well be the Jags we are messing with. They could be high on McClain as well as Tebow. In terms of selling tix, Jax would be very wise to draft Tebow, even in the top 10. McD showing interest prevents them from trading down and allowing someone like the Giants to leapfrog Denver for McClain. If the Jags don't think they can move down a few spots (15), they may feel pressure to just draft him at 10. I think the Broncos are serious looking at Tebow but not with 11 pick. I think they like him with one of their seconds or trading back in the first to get him. I think if they pick at 11 then it will be McClain or Bryant or even Pouncey.

SonOfLe-loLang
04-18-2010, 10:14 PM
I'd be surprised if Tebow doesnt go in round one at this point.

Mogulseeker
04-18-2010, 10:18 PM
It's going to be hard for me to cheer for Tebow if the Broncos draft him. I really don't like that d-bag.

baja
04-18-2010, 10:21 PM
What I don't get is if McD/X wanted Tebow than why did they trade for Quinn

*WARHORSE*
04-18-2010, 10:39 PM
This is a ploy to get someone to take Tebow............maybe.8')

Dagmar
04-18-2010, 10:41 PM
Watching John Gruden's QB show on ESPN, I wouldn't be annoyed with taking him with a 3rd 2nd round pick if we trade back in the 1st, I just don't see it though. Why trade for Quinn if we are gonna take another QB?

SoCalBronco
04-18-2010, 10:47 PM
Watching John Gruden's QB show on ESPN, I wouldn't be annoyed with taking him with a 3rd 2nd round pick if we trade back in the 1st, I just don't see it though. Why trade for Quinn if we are gonna take another QB?

Perhaps they were simply trying to get some depth in there with Quinn. Given that they were going to dump Simms and given that the Browns were asking for very little (relatively speaking), it's not an irrational move. I have a hard time believing that they thought Quinn was the answer or the guy they view as the long term leader. It's more likely they just thought he's a guy they can work with and at least have as a decent backup. If that's correct, then it shouldn't surprise anyone that the team is interested in Tebow (or any other QB in the draft for that matter). McD and McCoy know that no one on our roster at that spot scares anyone in this league. Eventually, they are going to have to find a long term answer.

Archer81
04-18-2010, 10:51 PM
This is a ploy to get someone to take Tebow............maybe.8')


Smokescreen to create another smokescreen to take him.


:Broncos:

Popps
04-18-2010, 10:55 PM
It's a little odd.

Tebow is going to go late enough (I'd think) that we'd have no need to drum up any sort of fake interest in the guy. It's not as if the Jaguars are going to like him in the 2nd round better because we had him visit twice.

Now, if we're talking about a top 3-5 pick, I surely believe in the smoke-screen business. But, I don't know... I sort of have to assume there is some kind of genuine interest on some level, even if we're just preparing in case he slides to us at some point.

Somewhat confusing. Hard to imagine McDaniels needing another "project" type guy.

He's done well with Orton, will probably make a respectable QB out of Quinn, but he's still got TB to work on. Does he really want another guy he's got to completely change?
I'd think if he's going to grab a QB, he'd want a guy who looks to fit our systme, and has good mechanics already.

OCBronco
04-18-2010, 10:58 PM
I think Tebow could be interesting in the second round. While you're waiting for him to develop, you can use him in the Wildcat, and near the goal line quite a bit. The dude is a load to bring down, and knows how to score. So you give him 7 snaps a game in certain situations, he could be really interesting. If anyone is creative enough to find ways of using his existing strengths, I think McD could do it, no problem. Who knows, maybe our offense would look a bit more like Florida's at times next year.

baja
04-18-2010, 10:59 PM
Unless McD thinks he can turn Tebow into the next Tom Brady, who knows.

Finger Roll
04-18-2010, 11:00 PM
true. If a guy is projected to go in the second round what's the point of a smoke screen.

Dagmar
04-18-2010, 11:03 PM
Just don't take Clausen ever. No no no. Cannot stand the kid.

epicSocialism4tw
04-18-2010, 11:32 PM
I think Tebow could be interesting in the second round. While you're waiting for him to develop, you can use him in the Wildcat, and near the goal line quite a bit. The dude is a load to bring down, and knows how to score. So you give him 7 snaps a game in certain situations, he could be really interesting. If anyone is creative enough to find ways of using his existing strengths, I think McD could do it, no problem. Who knows, maybe our offense would look a bit more like Florida's at times next year.

I hadnt really thought about it that way, but you kind of convinced me there.

I wasnt a big fan after he beat my Sooners in the championship, but he won my respect. The kid has a fireball competitive spirit. He took that game over late in the fourth and beat an exceptional Sam Bradford-led Sooners team with it all on the line.

I watched the Gruden "QB camp" (or whatever) thing on Tebow, and you could tell that Gruden liked what he was doing. I think that Tebow will make it. I wouldnt mind it at all if he wore the cyberhorse.

NFLBRONCO
04-18-2010, 11:42 PM
I hope it doesn't happen (No offense to Tebow) but, we have too many other holes to add another project at qb but, who knows what FO will do.

uplink
04-18-2010, 11:43 PM
true. If a guy is projected to go in the second round what's the point of a smoke screen.

Watching some of the sports shows it seems like a number of teams are thinking of Tebow in the 1st round, even before #11. In the past when a player got this kind of buzz he usually did indeed get drafted higher than expected.

iforgotmypassword
04-19-2010, 12:14 AM
he's climbin like matttttty jones

Florida_Bronco
04-19-2010, 12:38 AM
I have a hard time believing that they thought Quinn was the answer or the guy they view as the long term leader. He was the guy McDaniels originally wanted to replace the crybaby.

baja
04-19-2010, 12:40 AM
This is going to be the funnest draft ever.

buffbronco
04-19-2010, 12:47 AM
See the master plan was to get rid of Brandon Marshall simply to free up the #15 for Tebow.

baja
04-19-2010, 12:51 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lZYYSIIJ3rk/SlaLYdTEYAI/AAAAAAAABzc/PycvJcNNCZM/s400/tim-tebow-girlfriend-2.jpg

iforgotmypassword
04-19-2010, 12:53 AM
jesus I should go do some push-ups or somethin

baja
04-19-2010, 01:00 AM
Does he look a little like Elway to you?

iforgotmypassword
04-19-2010, 01:03 AM
dont see it

baja
04-19-2010, 01:06 AM
I see they both have "it"

baja
04-19-2010, 01:07 AM
Tebow + Josh McDaniels = Elway

extralife
04-19-2010, 01:51 AM
Elway didn't need anyone to be Elway. That's why he was Elway. Tebow has to be taught how to play his position, as a professional, which is always a recipe for disaster. Elway picked up the ball and threw it.

The Joker
04-19-2010, 01:56 AM
I'd be down with picking him with one of our 2nds.

I don't think he'll get that far though. The Jags will trade their first next year and a late round pick this year to get a late 1st/early 2nd this year and they'll grab him.

I could see us taking him if we trade way back in the 1st though, or if we trade back into the late first ourselves and grab him.

Personally I'd be very intrigued to have him as a Bronco. Sure there's a lot of question marks on him, but his upside is absolutely ridiculous.

eddie mac
04-19-2010, 02:09 AM
Tebow will be selected before Clausen. Mark it down folks.

OBF1
04-19-2010, 02:12 AM
Tebow will be selected before Clausen. Mark it down folks.

This is not like one of Baja's BS calls.... Like Scheffler being traded by now !Booya!

16slayer24
04-19-2010, 02:25 AM
elway took a snap frm the left gaurd or he thought he was gonna and he got benched for deberg not many start out on top

eddie mac
04-19-2010, 02:25 AM
This is not like one of Baja's BS calls.... Like Scheffler being traded by now !Booya!


Nope, I honestly believe some GM is going to take a flier on the golden boy before someone does on Jimmy.

Carmelo15
04-19-2010, 02:41 AM
If the Broncos take Tebow, between him & Brady Quinn we'll have more groupies at training camp than a rock concert.

The Joker
04-19-2010, 03:06 AM
If the Broncos take Tebow, between him & Brady Quinn we'll have more groupies at training camp than a rock concert.

Good point that.

And what about the Mane?

Cutlerfan was bad enough, can you imagine having a dozen or so hysterical Tebow worshippers on the forum?

uplink
04-19-2010, 03:15 AM
Lets hope he can spot open recievers as well as he spots hot chicks

uplink
04-19-2010, 03:28 AM
He knows how to look off the non-hot chicks and look downfield for an open hotty

tsiguy96
04-19-2010, 03:33 AM
if this guy fails, it wont be because of effort or motivation. i think most people could live with that.

rastaman
04-19-2010, 03:33 AM
I'd be surprised if Tebow doesnt go in round one at this point.

The Steelers could be interested in Tebow.......especially with how Ben has been screwing up here of late. Just a thought.

rastaman
04-19-2010, 03:38 AM
Tebow + Josh McDaniels = Elway

I don't think McDaniel's and Elway would have gotten along very well. Even today Elway doesn't think or is impressed with McDaniel's coaching style and personality.

Dan Reeves would have gotten along with Cutler the same as he did with Elway.

tsiguy96
04-19-2010, 03:39 AM
I don't think McDaniel's and Elway would have gotten along very well. Even today Elway doesn't think or is impressed with McDaniel's coaching style and personality.

Dan Reeves would have gotten along with Cutler the same as he did with Elway.

damn you know elway personally, cool. because publicly hes said all the right things, but since you guys hang out and all that im sure hes told you that before.

Broncoman13
04-19-2010, 05:44 AM
Rasta is right about one thing, the Steelers wouldn't let Tebow out of the top 20. They are smitten with the player and he would represent everything they believe in, especially at the QB position. The lowest Tebow will go is 18, but I think he'll go even higher than that.

TheReverend
04-19-2010, 06:13 AM
Side note, I'm pretty sure he's gay.

UberBroncoMan
04-19-2010, 06:15 AM
Biggest thing I hate about Tebow if we were to draft him? He's left handed. Harris has a knack for getting injured. It removes Clady from being our blindside tackle.

elsid13
04-19-2010, 06:18 AM
There are things to like of him as player - dedication, work effort, leadership - but he remind me a lot of Alex Smith and that worries me.

cmhargrove
04-19-2010, 06:19 AM
Wow.

I have been looking forward to Thursday night, but this Tebow thing will probably be the most interesting story line. I still would have Tebow pegged at the top of the second round, but people around here think he could potentially be gone within the top 15?

It will be fun to watch, that's for sure.

I still say let others fight over Tebow - build the lines with blue chip talent and all the other QB's on our roster will be able to win games (and Moreno will be more successful). Tebow would be a decent "investment" in the second round, but so would our "starting" LG, C, ILB, and WR.

I would rather take guys who project as immediate starters in the first two rounds, and I just don't see Tebow being able to beat out Orton, Quinn, or even Brandstater this year (unless they jettison Brandstater for the Tebow pick).

It's Bowlen's money, but if it were me - i'm stacking the Offensive line as big and talented as I possibly can before I get another QB.

bowtown
04-19-2010, 06:25 AM
If we trade both our 2nds or next year's 1st to move up and draft the Intangble Wonder, I'm going to melt down like I'm living in the center of the sun.

s0phr0syne
04-19-2010, 06:29 AM
Please don't let him become a Bronco. Please please please please please please please.


Meltdown imminent.

And then I'd have to get over it. Ugh.

oubronco
04-19-2010, 06:29 AM
Well with the attitude that we draft for 2-3 years down the road I could see McD taking TeBlow

oubronco
04-19-2010, 06:40 AM
God I hope McD doesn't **** this draft up

WolfpackGuy
04-19-2010, 06:42 AM
Hopefully this is just gamesmanship by the Broncos.

There are other needs that have to be addressed.

Broncochica
04-19-2010, 06:47 AM
Tebow! Tebow! :yayaya:

want2bAbronco2
04-19-2010, 06:49 AM
im a big tebow fan, but not before 3rd rnd. we have 3 qbs and if we draft him with a 2nd or even a 3rd we will have to let one of the others go.

Broncoman13
04-19-2010, 06:51 AM
No way Tebow gets past the Steelers at 18.

I still really think this is a ploy to try and get someone to take Tebow in the top 10 so that somebody we DO covet falls to 11. That or to talk a team like the Steelers, Niners, or Seahawks into trading up a few spots to get their QB of the future.

Steelers- Not real happy with Big Ben and bringing in a high character like Tebow would be the polar opposite of Worthlisberger... something the Rooneys want to do.

Seahawks- Have a starter for another year or two and could be patient while they groom Tebow. Makes a lot of sense as they have two first rounders.

Niners- Same scenario as Seahawks above. Smith can start for them but he isn't going to take them over the top. He is serviceable though and gives them time to groom Tebow.

Other possible landing spots for Tebow... Bills, Vikings, and Oakland.

yerner
04-19-2010, 06:52 AM
He throw like woman.

Broncoman13
04-19-2010, 06:52 AM
Biggest thing I hate about Tebow if we were to draft him? He's left handed. Harris has a knack for getting injured. It removes Clady from being our blindside tackle.

Best argument yet for staying away from Tebow. Very good point.

oubronco
04-19-2010, 06:53 AM
No way Tebow gets past the Steelers at 18.

I still really think this is a ploy to try and get someone to take Tebow in the top 10 so that somebody we DO covet falls to 11. That or to talk a team like the Steelers, Niners, or Seahawks into trading up a few spots to get their QB of the future.

Steelers- Not real happy with Big Ben and bringing in a high character like Tebow would be the polar opposite of Worthlisberger... something the Rooneys want to do.

Seahawks- Have a starter for another year or two and could be patient while they groom Tebow. Makes a lot of sense as they have two first rounders.

Niners- Same scenario as Seahawks above. Smith can start for them but he isn't going to take them over the top. He is serviceable though and gives them time to groom Tebow.

Other possible landing spots for Tebow... Bills, Vikings, and Oakland.

i don't really see how him being so high character has anything to do with it he's just not an NFL QB

lostknight
04-19-2010, 06:54 AM
Given how interviews went last year, I don't think there is a chance that the Broncos won't try to go after Tebow, if he is available where we want him. For all the snarking about Bellicheat, the reality is that his drafting is much less complex compared to others in the league. McDaniels follows in that tradition.

Also remember that Josh knows Urban Meyer, and that his playbook is worked into the Patriots (and hence the copycat Broncos) playbooks.

Carmelo15
04-19-2010, 07:04 AM
I think McDaniels genuinely like Tebow a lot. But as much as he thinks of the kid he knows how strong this draft is. He said himself in the pre-draft he expects guys in the 1st & 2nd to coontribute immediately and Tebow is one of the few drafted that high who wouldn't. Other than special formations (Wildhorses, goalline). If we take him before the mid-20s I'd be livid. But if we get him later I wouldn't be happy, but I couldn't be mad. Particularly if we trade down from 11 to get picks back we would lose trading back into the bottom of round one. Basically I'm saying Tim Tebow better not be the first Bronco drafted! If Josh gets Jacksonville to majorly reach for him at #10, I will refer to Josh as McGenius starting Thursday night.

bowtown
04-19-2010, 07:18 AM
I think McDaniels genuinely like Tebow a lot. But as much as he thinks of the kid he knows how strong this draft is. He said himself in the pre-draft he expects guys in the 1st & 2nd to coontribute immediately and Tebow is one of the few drafted that high who wouldn't. Other than special formations (Wildhorses, goalline). If we take him before the mid-20s I'd be livid. But if we get him later I wouldn't be happy, but I couldn't be mad. Particularly if we trade down from 11 to get picks back we would lose trading back into the bottom of round one. Basically I'm saying Tim Tebow better not be the first Bronco drafted! If Josh gets Jacksonville to majorly reach for him at #10, I will refer to Josh as McGenius starting Thursday night.

Will be hard for Jax to take him at #10 after the Raiders take him at #8.

DBroncos4life
04-19-2010, 07:23 AM
Will be hard for Jax to take him at #10 after the Raiders take him at #8.

I believe they will draft him as well.

Carmelo15
04-19-2010, 07:26 AM
Will be hard for Jax to take him at #10 after the Raiders take him at #8.

I would love to continue to hate Tebow

TheReverend
04-19-2010, 07:28 AM
Will be hard for Jax to take him at #10 after the Raiders take him at #8.

Not gonna lie... I'd be nervous.

cmhargrove
04-19-2010, 07:31 AM
Will be hard for Jax to take him at #10 after the Raiders take him at #8.

I know the Raiders are terrible drafters, but Tebow at 8??? Seriously?

I'm sticking with the top half of the second round.

meangene
04-19-2010, 07:37 AM
I could live with taking Tebow in the second if we trade back with our first and end up with three early second rounders. Doubt he goes before late first at best. We may as well face facts - it looks like we would take him if he is there for a second or, possibly, a late first if we trade back. As long as we get a WR in round two and an ILB and C in the first three rounds!

baja
04-19-2010, 07:37 AM
Will be hard for Jax to take him at #10 after the Raiders take him at #8.

and it will be hard for the Raiders to take him at 8 after the Redskins take him at 6.

elsid13
04-19-2010, 07:40 AM
and it will be hard for the Raiders to take him at 8 after the Redskins take him at 6.

Really? Guess Shanahan is already tired of McNabb.

Hamrob
04-19-2010, 07:43 AM
This draft has a ton of talent. Why use one of your first 4 picks on a project QB who may never help your team. Why would we take Tebow over a WR/G with tons of upside.

Just say no to Tebow!

baja
04-19-2010, 07:50 AM
Really? Guess Shanahan is already tired of McNabb.

Tebow needs two seasons to season.;D

Dagmar
04-19-2010, 07:56 AM
Broncos showing interest in Tim Tebow (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/19/broncos-showing-interest-in-tim-tebow/)

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 19, 2010 8:22 AM ET
The Denver Broncos are either interested in drafting Tim Tebow (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5096) this week or they're going to great lengths to create the appearance that they're interested in drafting Tim Tebow this week.

NFL.com is reporting that that Tebow will work out for the Broncos today (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/18/source-tebow-to-visit-broncos-monday/), and that head coach Josh McDaniels and General Manager Brian Xanders will personally take part in the workout. Peter King of SI.com had previously reported that Tebow was meeting with the Broncos (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/14/tebow-visiting-broncos-today/) last week, but that meeting may have been pushed back to today.

Draft week is a busy week, so for the head coach and general manager both to spend time with Tebow is a fairly strong indication that the Broncos have interest. McDaniels has made public comments in which he sounded enamored with Tebow, including stating that there's "no question" he'll be a successful quarterback once a small "dip" in his delivery is corrected.

"There are so many things you can say about the kid (http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14910174)," McDaniels said, per the Denver Post.

TailgateNut
04-19-2010, 08:16 AM
Broncos showing interest in Tim Tebow (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/19/broncos-showing-interest-in-tim-tebow/)

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 19, 2010 8:22 AM ET
The Denver Broncos are either interested in drafting Tim Tebow (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5096) this week or they're going to great lengths to create the appearance that they're interested in drafting Tim Tebow this week.

NFL.com is reporting that that Tebow will work out for the Broncos today (http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/04/18/source-tebow-to-visit-broncos-monday/), and that head coach Josh McDaniels and General Manager Brian Xanders will personally take part in the workout. Peter King of SI.com had previously reported that Tebow was meeting with the Broncos (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/14/tebow-visiting-broncos-today/) last week, but that meeting may have been pushed back to today.

Draft week is a busy week, so for the head coach and general manager both to spend time with Tebow is a fairly strong indication that the Broncos have interest. McDaniels has made public comments in which he sounded enamored with Tebow, including stating that there's "no question" he'll be a successful quarterback once a small "dip" in his delivery is corrected.

"There are so many things you can say about the kid (http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_14910174)," McDaniels said, per the Denver Post.


anyone intersted in a "slightly used" RV?

Rohirrim
04-19-2010, 08:18 AM
When all is said and done, Tebow is a winner and will sell a lot of tickets. Face it, he's probably the most exciting player coming out in the draft this year. The guy has throngs of fans chasing him all around the country. He's a phenomenon. The team that drafts him moves to the top of the focus of sports media (and regular media) in America next season. Every week there will be a new Tebow story. I still think the Jags would be major league stupid not to take him. He could be the difference between that franchise selling enough tickets, or moving to another city. This is one draft decision that could be made by an owner over his own FO. I just hope it's not Bowlen.

baja
04-19-2010, 08:18 AM
LOL Not a Tebow fan huh Nut...


What do you think about trading our 1st for Tampa's 2 2nds?

TailgateNut
04-19-2010, 08:23 AM
LOL Not a Tebow fan huh Nut...


What do you think about trading our 1st for Tampa's 2 2nds?


Ya think?

gtown
04-19-2010, 08:23 AM
Hard to say what this is. I am thinking there is a team in the latter half of the 1st round with an already established QB that is really interested in Tebow. Our percieved interest in Tebow just might be the incentive that other team uses to trade up for our pick.

garandman
04-19-2010, 08:24 AM
I talked about this last week in a thread I started regarding McD...

He has a major hard-on for Tebow.... I am positive we will trade down to the mid 20's, Tebow will be first pick for Denver.....

I think McD is in love with the guy, he will take him VERY early if necessary

TailgateNut
04-19-2010, 08:25 AM
Hard to say what this is. I am thinking there is a team in the latter half of the 1st round with an already established QB that is really interested in Tebow. Our percieved interest in Tebow just might be the incentive that other team uses to trade up for our pick.

Might be, but knowing McD's fancy for "moldable" QBs, I doubt that's the reason, although I hope it is!

Steve Sewell
04-19-2010, 08:26 AM
Does he look a little like Elway to you?

How dare you!!?!?!??

Steve Sewell
04-19-2010, 08:32 AM
Also, boy oh boy does Tebow have a great PR team or what? They have created a great buzz about the guy.

I think this is a masterful smoke screen from McD to increase the value they can get when trading the #11 pick for a later 1st rounder an additional picks. Drafting Tebow right now would be coaching suicide for him.

SonOfLe-loLang
04-19-2010, 08:32 AM
I'm on record as saying I'm not sure Tebow will be a great NFL QB, but i won't bet against him and won't be upset if we took him. If nothing else, he'd immediately add a new wrinkle to our offense next season.

SonOfLe-loLang
04-19-2010, 08:33 AM
Also, boy oh boy does Tebow have a great PR team or what? They have created a great buzz about the guy.

I think this is a masterful smoke screen from McD to increase the value they can get when trading the #11 pick for a later 1st rounder an additional picks. Drafting Tebow right now would be coaching suicide for him.

I'd argue the opposite and say it buys him more time.

Rohirrim
04-19-2010, 08:33 AM
I really hope McD is just greasing up the "trade down" skids with this visit.

Bigdawg26
04-19-2010, 08:35 AM
Man I got a bad feeling we are going to use one of our second rounders on this freakin nimrod ...

ScottXray
04-19-2010, 08:35 AM
No way that we are taking Tebow with our first, or really any first.
I do think he is moving up and that SOME team will grab him in the bottom
half of the first, even though he is a partial project.

I'm not gonna say he will be a superstar QB, but he probably will become
a solid starter at some point I could see him in the second with one of our picks, but Seattle, Pitt, Jacksonville (after dropping back some) and a few others have greater need than us for someone with his current skill set.

And Clausen will probably drop behind him.

At the same time I don't want McClain anywhere NEAR our 11 spot, as we need an everydown player and I can't see him as that. He may be able to analyse the O and be a team leader that way,but he doesn't look to me to be
an actual player that can make the plays on his own ability.
anyway I don't want Tbow or McClain at 11, and of the two I'd rather have Tebow

Steve Sewell
04-19-2010, 08:38 AM
Man I got a bad feeling we are going to use one of our second rounders on this freakin nimrod ...

He won't be there in the 2nd round.

eddie mac
04-19-2010, 08:38 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about Tebow considering I think we wont be picking in the top 20 anyway. We're going to end up with 5-6 picks in the top 80.

Dagmar
04-19-2010, 08:43 AM
I think Tebow could be interesting in the second round. While you're waiting for him to develop, you can use him in the Wildcat, and near the goal line quite a bit. The dude is a load to bring down, and knows how to score. So you give him 7 snaps a game in certain situations, he could be really interesting. If anyone is creative enough to find ways of using his existing strengths, I think McD could do it, no problem. Who knows, maybe our offense would look a bit more like Florida's at times next year.

I have never liked Tebow, the use of combining religion and sport is ridiculously obnoxious. However, I have warmed to the guy's professionalism and fully believe wherever he goes he will be the 1st there in the morning and last to leave at night. If he is not a success it wont be for lack of trying. Plus he won't have any Marshall-esque incidents, that's for sure!

Steve Sewell
04-19-2010, 08:46 AM
Has anyone considered that Jesus will make Tebow an all-time great? I don't see this being listed in any of the draft reports.

Rohirrim
04-19-2010, 08:47 AM
I doubt Clausen drops. He's too solid in too many areas, especially his ability to read defenses (the hardest thing to coach), plus he can make all the throws. Kiper questions him, but of course, Kiper is a moron. I'll be shocked if he drops out of the top ten. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Tebow noise McD is making as nothing more than a smoke-screen to jumping up for Clausen, if Shanahan doesn't take him at #4.

bowtown
04-19-2010, 08:48 AM
Has anyone considered that Jesus will make Tebow an all-time great? I don't see this being listed in any of the draft reports.

Without being able to write scripture on his eye black in the NFL, it's impossible to know what kind of influence Jesus will have over his performance anymore.

Rohirrim
04-19-2010, 08:49 AM
Has anyone considered that Jesus will make Tebow an all-time great? I don't see this being listed in any of the draft reports.

That's true. They don't put "Football Jesus" in the scouting reports.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GpsGCJBNVyA/SXZAGZP8BzI/AAAAAAAABNA/llAPH4vhxRM/s320/jesus_football.jpg

Just think how impressive the Broncos prayer huddle would be?

jhns
04-19-2010, 08:54 AM
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at the fact that Tebow would probably be able to compete at QB on this team.

baja
04-19-2010, 09:07 AM
That's true. They don't put "Football Jesus" in the scouting reports.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GpsGCJBNVyA/SXZAGZP8BzI/AAAAAAAABNA/llAPH4vhxRM/s320/jesus_football.jpg

Just think how impressive the Broncos prayer huddle would be?

http://www.floridafreethinkers.com/217/jesus-in-the-football-huddle/

Steve Sewell
04-19-2010, 09:10 AM
I don't know if I should laugh or cry at the fact that Tebow would probably be able to compete at QB on this team.

Compete right away? In the words of Tom Jackson: "C'MOOOONNNNN MAAANN"

Steve Sewell
04-19-2010, 09:12 AM
Without being able to write scripture on his eye black in the NFL, it's impossible to know what kind of influence Jesus will have over his performance anymore.

Oh I am sure Tim will let you know after his first start. It will just be harder to tell to the naked eye.

Cosmo
04-19-2010, 09:14 AM
I don't get the huge diss on Tebow for being outspoken about Christianity. 90% of players in the NFL are very religious. I mean, is it because he's a white guy that does it? I just don't get it. Let him believe what he wants and give credit to his talent to who he pleases.

TotallyScrewed
04-19-2010, 09:23 AM
It's a little odd.

Tebow is going to go late enough (I'd think) that we'd have no need to drum up any sort of fake interest in the guy. It's not as if the Jaguars are going to like him in the 2nd round better because we had him visit twice.

Now, if we're talking about a top 3-5 pick, I surely believe in the smoke-screen business. But, I don't know... I sort of have to assume there is some kind of genuine interest on some level, even if we're just preparing in case he slides to us at some point.

Somewhat confusing. Hard to imagine McDaniels needing another "project" type guy.

He's done well with Orton, will probably make a respectable QB out of Quinn, but he's still got TB to work on. Does he really want another guy he's got to completely change?
I'd think if he's going to grab a QB, he'd want a guy who looks to fit our systme, and has good mechanics already.

Wild Horses anyone?

My take is that McD doesn't believe he has a long term answer at the QB and he needs to start trying to find it in the rough edges. Tebow is a gifted athlete and as tough as they come at that position.

Steve Sewell
04-19-2010, 09:24 AM
I don't get the huge diss on Tebow for being outspoken about Christianity. 90% of players in the NFL are very religious. I mean, is it because he's a white guy that does it? I just don't get it. Let him believe what he wants and give credit to his talent to who he pleases.

I'm a religious person. I find it obnoxious and inappropriate that players relate religion to something as trivial as their success in a sport. It's insulting to my intelligence. If they want to evangelize, they can do it when performing acts of true service, not during a televised sporting event for which they are paid millions to participate in.

Cito Pelon
04-19-2010, 09:31 AM
I don't know what the **** is going on.

TotallyScrewed
04-19-2010, 09:32 AM
I'm on record as saying I'm not sure Tebow will be a great NFL QB, but i won't bet against him and won't be upset if we took him. If nothing else, he'd immediately add a new wrinkle to our offense next season.

So...that's a definite maybe?

Rohirrim
04-19-2010, 09:37 AM
I don't know what the **** is going on.

Hilarious!

I was once on an elevator in the Bank Building when this little old man in a brown naugahyde, alpine hat came in, looked up at me with the thickest glasses I'd ever seen and said, "I can't see ****!"

I've never forgotten that moment. Ha!

coachmastermind
04-19-2010, 10:15 AM
I'm a religious person. I find it obnoxious and inappropriate that players relate religion to something as trivial as their success in a sport. It's insulting to my intelligence. If they want to evangelize, they can do it when performing acts of true service, not during a televised sporting event for which they are paid millions to participate in.


I guess I've never seen Tim Tebow or other outspoken Christian athletes say "I won because God was on my side and not the other teams" or "I am a stronger Christian than players on the opposing team, therefore God is a fan of my team". I think that most strong Christian athletes believe they're talents and abilities are a gift from God, and it's their job to make the most of it, and work hard to "thank Him". So when a player wins the Super Bowl and is standing on the podium and gives God the credit, I guess I don't read that as "God's on his side more", but rather that he's thanking God and giving God the credit rather than pointing the credit towards himself, because the player did it to honor God.

As far as eyeblack and stuff goes, I guess I don't think a player doing it is jamming it down my throat... I think as a whole our society gets a lot of other stuff thrown in our face that is much worse, and for the most part we are immune to it. BTW, I think I read that the verse Tebow usually puts on his eyeblack is one of the top searched items on the internet in the hours after the game. - just interesting.

Cito Pelon
04-19-2010, 10:26 AM
Hilarious!

I was once on an elevator in the Bank Building when this little old man in a brown naugahyde, alpine hat came in, looked up at me with the thickest glasses I'd ever seen and said, "I can't see ****!"

I've never forgotten that moment. Ha!

Did he resemble Al Davis? I don't wear naugahyde, btw, so it wasn't me. :wiggle:

Bigdawg26
04-19-2010, 10:27 AM
That's true. They don't put "Football Jesus" in the scouting reports.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GpsGCJBNVyA/SXZAGZP8BzI/AAAAAAAABNA/llAPH4vhxRM/s320/jesus_football.jpg

Just think how impressive the Broncos prayer huddle would be?
Hilarious! That would be so awesome if our huddle looked like that!

TailgateNut
04-19-2010, 10:35 AM
That's true. They don't put "Football Jesus" in the scouting reports.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GpsGCJBNVyA/SXZAGZP8BzI/AAAAAAAABNA/llAPH4vhxRM/s320/jesus_football.jpg

Just think how impressive the Broncos prayer huddle would be?


15yd penalty for removing helmet.

Soul-Bronco
04-19-2010, 11:49 AM
Mcdainels is at the final table, and if we take tebow in this draft It will be McD going all in.

The great teams of the nfl history all have a unique back story to them which involves taking a gamble. I think McD feels like he can make tebow an nfl quarterback and create something special in Denver.

If he can get the technique the rest is already present.

Soul-Bronco
04-19-2010, 11:53 AM
Mcdainels is at the final table, and if we take tebow in this draft It will be McD going all in.

The great teams of the nfl history all have a unique back story to them which involves taking a gamble. I think McD feels like he can make tebow an nfl quarterback and create something special in Denver.

If he can get the technique the rest is already present.

uplink
04-21-2010, 01:19 PM
The thing with Tebow is although he has a great attitude etc. his religous nature may work against his long term success if things get hard for him performance wise. Seems he could just think God has something else in mind for him and he moves on and leaves the NFL contented that his life will still have value and meaning. A less religous guy might stick it out longer since his ego will not let him fail and be a failure in life.

Beantown Bronco
04-21-2010, 01:36 PM
Hilarious!

I was once on an elevator in the Bank Building when this little old man in a brown naugahyde, alpine hat came in, looked up at me with the thickest glasses I'd ever seen and said, "I can't see ****!"

I've never forgotten that moment. Ha!

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epicSocialism4tw
04-21-2010, 01:52 PM
Mcdainels is at the final table, and if we take tebow in this draft It will be McD going all in.

The great teams of the nfl history all have a unique back story to them which involves taking a gamble. I think McD feels like he can make tebow an nfl quarterback and create something special in Denver.

If he can get the technique the rest is already present.

Tebow is exactly the type of player that McD wants.

He's very, very similar to Brian Dawkins.

This year is interesting for QB's because you have three guys with level heads and high competitive spirits who have had great success at the college level. Their intercompetition probably formed the best QB era of college football. It will be interesting to see who ends up succeeding. I liked what I saw from all of them in the Gruden QB camp videos...all three have the right mindset for a rookie. They are humble and understand that nothing is given to them. Bradford was especially impressive in tape review. He's very intelligent for a pro football player. You can tell he knows the ins and outs of a playbook and is fluent enough in an offense to make decisions that result in yards.

Anyway, back to Tebow...
We all saw what McD got out of Matt Cassell, who is a similar player. Cassell doesnt run with the proficiency that Tebow has proven to run with, but that mobility helped the Patriots. Tebow's throwing motion has been analyzed thoroughly, and if McD has asked Tebow to sit down for an interview, then McD is interested. We all saw how McD went after the DB Smith at the top of the second round last year. I wouldnt be surprised at all if McD used his newly aquired 2nd rounders to go after Tebow at wherever he thinks Tebow will fall.

Bronco Yoda
04-21-2010, 02:04 PM
I like Tebow but I don't like that he's a lefty. Obviously this doesn't seem to concern McD since he was all fine with having Simms as a backup on the roster.

ColoradoBuff
04-21-2010, 02:39 PM
This draft has a ton of talent. Why use one of your first 4 picks on a project QB who may never help your team. Why would we take Tebow over a WR/G with tons of upside.

Just say no to Tebow!

^
This x 10!!!!!!!!!

lostknight
04-21-2010, 07:28 PM
The only way we take Tebow is if McDaniels's pissed in the Koolaide, and knows exactly what it is he is asking the Broncos fans to drink re: Orton, Brandstater and Quinn.

As a PR move, it has massive value, and when the Nuggets and the Avs are in the playoffs, and the Rockies just threw a no-hitter, keeping the Broncs on top of the news in a positive way is probably a goal.

But it basically would expose the lie that is the last year of QBing in Denver.

Man-Goblin
04-21-2010, 07:38 PM
Ed Werder just said that on his way to see Tebow for the second time, McDaniels stopped to put McCoy through a private workout too. First I've heard of that.

Finger Roll
04-21-2010, 07:54 PM
wouldn't mind him in the late first early second. I think he would be great for this system.

Finger Roll
04-21-2010, 07:55 PM
Mccoy that is

watermock
04-21-2010, 07:59 PM
If draft Tebow after all this crap, I'll just laugh.

BroncoInferno
04-21-2010, 08:58 PM
If draft Tebow after all this crap, I'll just laugh.

It won't matter who we draft, you'll pretend you hate it. Same as it ever was.

HAT
05-02-2011, 11:27 PM
Good point that.

And what about the Mane?

Cutlerfan was bad enough, can you imagine having a dozen or so hysterical Tebow worshippers on the forum?

MacGruder says hi. :welcome:

MacGruder
05-03-2011, 12:35 AM
Another witch hunt.. how appropriate.. Considering you got Tebow because of the same kind of attitude... Mouthbreathers run the world...

TheReverend
05-03-2011, 05:01 AM
Another witch hunt.. how appropriate.. Considering you got Tebow because of the same kind of attitude... Mouthbreathers run the world...

For the record, making fun of someone (in this case, you), in no way shape or form classifies as a "witch hunt".

The Joker
05-03-2011, 05:05 AM
MacGruder says hi. :welcome:

I thought my other post in the thread was better.

I'd be down with picking him with one of our 2nds.

I don't think he'll get that far though. The Jags will trade their first next year and a late round pick this year to get a late 1st/early 2nd this year and they'll grab him.

I could see us taking him if we trade way back in the 1st though, or if we trade back into the late first ourselves and grab him.

Personally I'd be very intrigued to have him as a Bronco. Sure there's a lot of question marks on him, but his upside is absolutely ridiculous.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/smug.gif

TheReverend
05-03-2011, 05:10 AM
I thought my other post in the thread was better.



http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/Smileys/Lots_O_Smileys/smug.gif

Your clairvoyance has nothing on mine from the "predict the first round pick thread" that year:

I think they're trading down with the Eagles and grabbing Tebow.

The Joker
05-03-2011, 05:12 AM
Always a bridesmaid...

MacGruder
05-03-2011, 09:49 AM
For the record, making fun of someone (in this case, you), in no way shape or form classifies as a "witch hunt".

Sure it is...

All truth goes through three phases

1st it is ridiculed
2nd it is violently opposed - THIS is the witch hunt
3rd it is accepted as self evident

The witch hunt is the truth... or reality...

bowtown
05-03-2011, 10:25 AM
Sure it is...

All truth goes through three phases

1st it is ridiculed
2nd it is violently opposed - THIS is the witch hunt
3rd it is accepted as self evident

The witch hunt is the truth... or reality...

I bet you cry yourself to sleep at night.

MacGruder
05-03-2011, 10:56 AM
Cry myself to sleep because I school all the mouthbreathers?

This is all just an experiment anyway... You guys are just unwittingly helping my cause. Nothing more predictable than a mouthbreather..

Beantown Bronco
05-03-2011, 10:59 AM
I've gotta say. There are some real gems in this thread, particularly in the first few pages.

bronco militia
05-03-2011, 11:00 AM
It's going to be hard for me to cheer for Tebow if the Broncos draft him. I really don't like that d-bag.

who knew

HAT
05-03-2011, 11:01 AM
I bet you cry yourself to sleep at night.

I just googled 'Broncos message board' and the 'Mane is at the very bottom of page 1 results.

Too bad this kook ended up here instead of at one of the other 5 or so mainstream boards.

bendog
05-03-2011, 11:02 AM
Somebody's gonna get a lightening bolt up the wazzoo.

PRBronco
05-03-2011, 11:05 AM
Cry myself to sleep because I school all the mouthbreathers?

This is all just an experiment anyway... You guys are just unwittingly helping my cause. Nothing more predictable than a mouthbreather..

I have a deviated septum alright!!?? It's a real thing!!! :gripe:

Dukes
05-03-2011, 11:18 AM
This draft has a ton of talent. Why use one of your first 4 picks on a project QB who may never help your team. Why would we take Tebow over a WR/G with tons of upside.

Just say no to Tebow!

This post is especially funny considering the avy and adopt-a-bronco

PRBronco
05-03-2011, 11:23 AM
This post is especially funny considering the avy and adopt-a-bronco

ROFL! owned by the past!

Beantown Bronco
05-03-2011, 11:26 AM
This post is especially funny considering the avy and adopt-a-bronco

Wow. You can't make this stuff up.

oubronco
05-03-2011, 11:36 AM
Side note, I'm pretty sure he's gay.

This one here is a gem

oubronco
05-03-2011, 11:39 AM
If draft Tebow after all this crap, I'll just laugh.

Keep on laughing brotha

TheReverend
05-03-2011, 11:46 AM
This one here is a gem

Lol, I definitely was convinced he was until I met a few people in Gainesville who know otherwise.

Still called us drafting him and the Philly trade back and never bad mouthed him as a football player

TailgateNut
05-03-2011, 11:48 AM
Lol, I definitely was convinced he was until I met a few people in Gainesville who know otherwise.

Still called us drafting him and the Philly trade back and never bad mouthed him as a football player


Does it hurt when you ride your bicycle backwards?

TheReverend
05-03-2011, 12:03 PM
Does it hurt when you ride your bicycle backwards?

What? How does that even apply towards thinking a guy who managed to stay a virgin through every hot chick at UF throwing themselves at him is gay?

Here is what I've had to say about him as a player and prospect all PRE draft:

Dude is such an enigma.

Conventional wisdom in his playstyle is that he'll bust as an NFL QB.

But the guy is such a good guy and hard worker and has sooooo many intangibles and measurables that betting against him is simply something I won't do.

^^^ This, and I would respect the living **** out of this move.

One, it's Josh putting his money where his mouth is on all this team first, high character, smart and tough talk.

Two, it's Josh trusting his ability to take a guy with everything he could want, and saying "I can take you to that next level"

Three, it's my kind of insane. McDaniels reminds me of Charlie from Always Sunny in the Gang Solves the Gas Crisis where he's the "wildcard":

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So... sorry. I'm one of the few that's been on the Tebow wagon when it was popular to criticize it.

Mogulseeker
05-03-2011, 01:25 PM
who knew

1. That was said casually in passing, and I never thought the Broncos were seriously considering using a 1st on him.

2. Still don't like how open he is about his religion as a public figure and representative of the Broncos organization. There's a time and a place - even if I agreed with him, it wouldn't be appropriate... that would be like Orton holding a Iowa farmers union sign on the sidelines or something. As long as he shuts up about it, I respect it.

3. I appreciate his work ethic, and the Broncos are making the right moves to develop him. I didn't necessarily think the latter would be the case.

bronco militia
05-03-2011, 01:31 PM
1.
2. Still don't like how open he is about his religion as a public figure and representative of the Broncos organization. There's a time and a place - even if I agreed with him, it wouldn't be appropriate... that would be like Orton holding a Iowa farmers union sign on the sidelines or something. As long as he shuts up about it, I respect it.

.

not once have I ever seen him go out of his way to throw his religion in my face.

But there's a **** ton of people like you and the media that won't let me forget that he's a man of faith.

Mogulseeker
05-03-2011, 01:38 PM
not once have I ever seen him go out of his way to throw his religion in my face.

But there's a **** ton of people like you and the media that won't let me forget that he's a man of faith.

He quoted Philippians when he announced his return to Florida.



http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/.a/6a00d83451c3cb69e20120a59eb6f1970b-500wi
Isaiah 40:31 Those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

Upon further review, I think his intensity is directly related to his virginity. Like when he approached Von Miller and just says "wanna work out?" to him... just seems to me like something a virgin would say.

That said, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Tebow's passion, and I think once he matures he will understand leadership more. Right now his leadership skills are raw, based on example and emotion, but you have to understand people and you have to be bright to do it, too. Very risky for a 1st rounder, but the potential payout is nice.

baja
05-03-2011, 01:39 PM
not once have I ever seen him go out of his way to throw his religion in my face.

But there's a **** ton of people like you and the media that won't let me forget that he's a man of faith.

It's an interesting cross section of us that are enamored with Tebow.

Beantown Bronco
05-03-2011, 01:39 PM
Upon further review, I think his intensity is directly related to his virginity. Like when he approached Von Miller and just says "wanna work out?" to him... just seems to me like something a virgin would say.

He was just trying to figure out if Miller was ball and if he was juice.

Carmelo15
05-03-2011, 06:21 PM
Tebow, Lynch and Von Miller

twitpic: http://ow.ly/i/b5W6/original

epicSocialism4tw
05-03-2011, 06:26 PM
He quoted Philippians when he announced his return to Florida.



http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/.a/6a00d83451c3cb69e20120a59eb6f1970b-500wi


Upon further review, I think his intensity is directly related to his virginity. Like when he approached Von Miller and just says "wanna work out?" to him... just seems to me like something a virgin would say.

That said, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Tebow's passion, and I think once he matures he will understand leadership more. Right now his leadership skills are raw, based on example and emotion, but you have to understand people and you have to be bright to do it, too. Very risky for a 1st rounder, but the potential payout is nice.

LOL

Gotta love amateur pop psychology on leadership from message board posters. Ha!

epicSocialism4tw
05-03-2011, 06:35 PM
It's going to be hard for me to cheer for Tebow if the Broncos draft him. I really don't like that d-bag.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x234/ctbob/douche.jpg

Mogulseeker
05-03-2011, 06:39 PM
LOL

Gotta love amateur pop psychology on leadership from message board posters. Ha!

Well there are a lot of ways to tell if a guy is a virgin or not.

Exhibit A: hover hand
http://www.sharenator.com/How_to_tell_if_guy_is_a_Virgin_or_he_is_not/#/01-0.html

Jay3
05-03-2011, 06:41 PM
Upon further review, I think his intensity is directly related to his virginity. Like when he approached Von Miller and just says "wanna work out?" to him... just seems to me like something a virgin would say.

It's like Samson and his long hair. The source of his power. When Tebow gets married he will start sliding under tackles and getting suflexed by Ray Lewis.

epicSocialism4tw
05-03-2011, 06:52 PM
Well there are a lot of ways to tell if a guy is a virgin or not.

Exhibit A: hover hand
http://www.sharenator.com/How_to_tell_if_guy_is_a_Virgin_or_he_is_not/#/01-0.html

Just because the dude holds himself to a higher behavioral and moral standard than you do doesnt mean he isnt a leader.

Mogulseeker
05-03-2011, 07:20 PM
Just because the dude holds himself to a higher behavioral and moral standard than you do doesnt mean he isnt a leader.

I don't sleep with every girl I bump into. I'm monogamous with a friend right now until something better comes along.

It's like Samson and his long hair. The source of his power. When Tebow gets married he will start sliding under tackles and getting suflexed by Ray Lewis.

This. I'm serious... I think Tebow's virginity is directly related to his intensity, and it's good for the early workings for his career. I think he'll be even more verbal, more of a vocal leader and more relatable once he ties the knot.

I respect that. I don't see how anyone thinks I'm insulting him in that regard.

Broncobiv
05-03-2011, 08:48 PM
This. I'm serious... I think Tebow's virginity is directly related to his intensity, and it's good for the early workings for his career. I think he'll be even more verbal, more of a vocal leader and more relatable once he ties the knot.

I respect that. I don't see how anyone thinks I'm insulting him in that regard.
I think you're reading way too far into this particular subject.

Tebow is an amazing leader and an even more amazing competitor who will do literally anything to succeed (and help those around him to succeed). To directly correlate that to his virginity seems a little over the edge.

epicSocialism4tw
05-03-2011, 09:56 PM
I don't sleep with every girl I bump into. I'm monogamous with a friend right now until something better comes along.



This. I'm serious... I think Tebow's virginity is directly related to his intensity, and it's good for the early workings for his career. I think he'll be even more verbal, more of a vocal leader and more relatable once he ties the knot.

I respect that. I don't see how anyone thinks I'm insulting him in that regard.

No offense, but I think that you're being naive here.

You dont think that there are guys that go to church in that locker room? Who dont come from church backgrounds and understand why Tebow does what he does?

Tebow is a leader primarily because he is an example on the game and practice field of a player doing what it takes to win.

Watch the highlights from the Houston game, where after Tebow scores a TD the D-line players meet him on the way back to the sideline barking at him like angry dogs saying "I didnt know you could do that, Tebow!"

The defensive players especially are going to love Tebow. The dude is all toughness and grit. He's one of them playing QB. I think that the offensive players will love him for that too.