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montrose
04-16-2010, 10:44 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/16/five.things/

Peter King says they really want Berry or Thomas, which would make the Broncos pick at #11 pretty ideal for them. They have the 24th, 35th, 55th and 70th picks.

TheReverend
04-16-2010, 10:46 AM
That would be beyond ideal.

Requiem
04-16-2010, 10:47 AM
I'd do it.

baja
04-16-2010, 10:48 AM
We have jay cutler to thank for this opportunity if it comes to pass.

azbroncfan
04-16-2010, 10:49 AM
Eagles rarely get taken on trades though. I would love it though.

Tombstone RJ
04-16-2010, 10:50 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/04/16/five.things/

Peter King says they really want Berry or Thomas, which would make the Broncos pick at #11 pretty ideal for them. They have the 24th, 35th, 55th and 70th picks.

Yah, Philly has like 11 picks in this draft. It just makes sense for them to move up and get at least one player they really like. Overall, they are a relatively young team.

baja
04-16-2010, 10:51 AM
Eagles rarely get taken on trades though. I would love it though.

we would not be taking them, they get what they want and we get picks more suited to our needs. Win win

Traveler
04-16-2010, 10:52 AM
24 & 35. How does that rate on the draft trade chart to our #11?

BizzyBone7
04-16-2010, 10:54 AM
24 & 35. How does that rate on the draft trade chart to our #11?

If i did my math right, which is questionable, it would be 1290-1250 in our favor

BlaK-Argentina
04-16-2010, 10:57 AM
Hell yeah.

Archer81
04-16-2010, 10:58 AM
11 for 24 and 35?...if that happens it would probably be on draft day.


:Broncos:

SonOfLe-loLang
04-16-2010, 10:59 AM
11 for 24 and 35?...if that happens it would probably be on draft day.


:Broncos:

well of course, if it happens, its probably when Denver is on the clock. It'll only happen if the Eagles' guy is on the board.

NFLBRONCO
04-16-2010, 10:59 AM
E Thomas be on the board.

baja
04-16-2010, 10:59 AM
clearly but it would be sweet

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:01 AM
You guys should listen to Clipse - Young Boy -- I think it captures the possibilities of this potential deal 100%.

no-pseudo-fan
04-16-2010, 11:01 AM
I say go for it if we can get it. Going down to the late first would give us an opportunity to get a guy we like, as well as owning the second round.

Bizzle
04-16-2010, 11:01 AM
They won't trade the second they got for McNabb (35th)...more likely there own 55th. Even so, I'd pull the trigger...even though the chart will sway their way.

Both Berry and Thomas could be gone by 11 though...Thomas is climbing.

SoDak Bronco
04-16-2010, 11:03 AM
On the downside, we could get screwed if the guys we want are off the board at 24, like Pouncey or Ipati. Then we are kicking ourselves for not taking BPA or the guy we want.

SoDak Bronco
04-16-2010, 11:05 AM
They won't trade the second they got for McNabb (35th)...more likely there own 55th. Even so, I'd pull the trigger...even though the chart will sway their way.

Both Berry and Thomas could be gone by 11 though...Thomas is climbing.

I would hope to hell we don't trade down 13 spots and not get that 35th pick. It's going to take that to get up to 11 or 12.

underrated29
04-16-2010, 11:05 AM
You guys should listen to Clipse - Young Boy -- I think it captures the possibilities of this potential deal 100%.




elaborate please...??



PS- I already came from thinking about this trade.

oubronco
04-16-2010, 11:06 AM
Stay at 11 and take a difference maker, we need impact players

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:06 AM
U29, you gotta read the lyrics for Christ sakes.

TheReverend
04-16-2010, 11:06 AM
On the downside, we could get screwed if the guys we want are off the board at 24, like Pouncey or Ipati. Then we are kicking ourselves for not taking BPA or the guy we want.

Then we grab 2 guys that are tailor made to our system and can be pro-bowlers instead of 1 guy that's just a better all around football player.

Oh welll...

Tombstone RJ
04-16-2010, 11:07 AM
I won't be suprised if Thomas is gone in the top 10. Some think he's the top rated talent of the entire draft. However, it still makes sense for Philly to make a trade up in order to unload some of the picks they have in this draft. From what I understand, they are already a young team and with Kolb as their starting QB, it may not make much sense to bring in a bunch of rookies. It might make more sense for them to target a few guys in this draft and just go get them by trading up.

underrated29
04-16-2010, 11:08 AM
On the downside, we could get screwed if the guys we want are off the board at 24, like Pouncey or Ipati. Then we are kicking ourselves for not taking BPA or the guy we want.




true.


but I think Odrick, Spoon, wilson, cody, benn, tate, could all be possibliities there.

I like spoon a lot lot! Like him more than Mclain....just speculation mind you, but I am sure there is someone there that will have great value for us.

gyldenlove
04-16-2010, 11:09 AM
If that happens we would have 4 picks in the top 2 rounds, no way that can go wrong.

underrated29
04-16-2010, 11:09 AM
U29, you gotta read the lyrics for Christ sakes.




I wanted to hear you Rap damnit... Now throw down and give me some flow, MO style!

NFLBRONCO
04-16-2010, 11:10 AM
I bet we can find guys that can help us at 24 geez.

WolfpackGuy
04-16-2010, 11:12 AM
I would go for 24 & 55.

I'm sure someone would go for 55 + 80 for a subsequent move up in the second.

mhgaffney
04-16-2010, 11:15 AM
# 11 is looking like a good place to be -- for a trade.

no-pseudo-fan
04-16-2010, 11:17 AM
Then we grab 2 guys that are tailor made to our system and can be pro-bowlers instead of 1 guy that's just a better all around football player.

Oh welll...

I agree. We got to milk it. If we trade down, and Pouncey and Iupati are gone? Odrick might be there. D. Thomas from GT might be there (that is my wish). Maybe Sean Witherspoon is there.

That way we get an extra 2, and we kill it in the first part of round 2, and that top 3 2nd rounder is pure gold.

ScottXray
04-16-2010, 11:18 AM
Jacksonville also wants to move down, but maybe even further. They have the 10th. So they might have an edge over us, since if only one of those two is still on the board by the time they are on the clock Philly might go with them.

I would rather not drop all that far, but the deal would have to include the 35, which would give us another 2nd, and even better, a pick just before the one SD got from Seattle.

no-pseudo-fan
04-16-2010, 11:23 AM
Jacksonville also wants to move down, but maybe even further. They have the 10th. So they might have an edge over us, since if only one of those two is still on the board by the time they are on the clock Philly might go with them.

I would rather not drop all that far, but the deal would have to include the 35, which would give us another 2nd, and even better, a pick just before the one SD got from Seattle.

Our edge is that teams don't like to pay top 10 rookie money, but pick 11 and up are much more reasonable. We will see.

baja
04-16-2010, 11:24 AM
Jacksonville also wants to move down, but maybe even further. They have the 10th. So they might have an edge over us, since if only one of those two is still on the board by the time they are on the clock Philly might go with them.

I would rather not drop all that far, but the deal would have to include the 35, which would give us another 2nd, and even better,<b> a pick just before the one SD got from Seattle.

I like that...

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:24 AM
I wanted to hear you Rap damnit... Now throw down and give me some flow, MO style!

We was sittin' at #11,
But I was feelin' more like twenty-four and fifty five,
Trade back,
Lean back,
Save a couple mean stacks.
Unless C.J. Spiller still on the board,
You b****es best believe that.

I know some favor that Nittany Lion Odrick,
But pardon me, I ain't in favor of players who play with a small dick,
Bag a Brandon Graham and save a couple ouncies,
Break the jaws of a gator and pass on Maurkice Pouncey.

People screamin' I-U-PATI, I'm screaming R-U-STUPID,
He don't start from day one,
Why the **** you advocating for us to do this?
I like me some Earl Thomas,
Baby I'm just being honest,
He going by #15 baby and that's a promise.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Eghk.

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:26 AM
This message board might get a little hairy if we stay at #11 and take Johnny Jerry.

crush17
04-16-2010, 11:27 AM
We was sittin' at #11,
But I was feelin' more like twenty-four and fifty five,
Trade back,
Lean back,
Save a couple mean stacks.
Unless C.J. Spiller still on the board,
You b****es best believe that.

I know some favor that Nittany Lion Odrick,
But pardon me, I ain't in favor of players who play with a small dick,
Bag a Brandon Graham and save a couple ouncies,
Break the jaws of a gator and pass on Maurkice Pouncey.

People screamin' I-U-PATI, I'm screaming R-U-STUPID,
He don't start from day one,
Why the **** you advocating for us to do this?
I like me some Earl Thomas,
Baby I'm just being honest,
He going by #15 baby and that's a promise.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun. Eghk.


Clipse ftmfw.

baja
04-16-2010, 11:27 AM
or danny ferry

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:28 AM
Nobody goes harder than Malice or Pusha. I busted out Lord Willin' at work today and I got a bunch of foreign kids dancing to the beats. So sick. That up there was a Requiem original. That rap would be placed over the beat to Young Boy, as mentioned earlier.

underrated29
04-16-2010, 11:28 AM
We was sittin' at #11,
But I was feelin' more like twenty-four and fifty five,
Trade back,
Lean back,
Save a couple mean stacks.
Unless C.J. Spiller still on the board,
You b****es best believe that.

I know some favor that Nittany Lion Odrick,
But pardon me, I ain't in favor of players who play with a small dick,
Bag a Brandon Graham and save a couple ouncies,
Break the jaws of a gator and pass on Maurkice Pouncey.

People screamin' I-U-PATI, I'm screaming R-U-STUPID,
He don't start from day one,
Why the **** you advocating for us to do this?
I like me some Earl Thomas,
Baby I'm just being honest,
He going by #15 baby and that's a promise.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun. Eghk.





You're my boy blue.




I luv it.

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:30 AM
or danny ferry

What if we take Jason Pierre-Paul?
Fans will be callin' McDaniels the next Caesar,
As if he was givin' citizenship to Gaul.
Four picks in the top eighty ain't that quite a haul,
Hopefully he doesn't pull a Shanahan and blow them all.

Ye ye ye.

Br0nc0Buster
04-16-2010, 11:34 AM
I doubt the Eagles would trade their high second to move up 13 spots

LonghornBronco
04-16-2010, 11:36 AM
I love this trade! Make it so McD!

25.) Pouncey C FL
35.) D. Thomas WR GT
44.) T. Cody NT AL
46.) J. Asamoah OG AL
80.) T. Gerhart RB Stanford

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:37 AM
LonghornBronco, I am surprised you didn't have Shipley there instead of Thomas. ;)

Dagmar
04-16-2010, 11:43 AM
This message board might get a little hairy when take anyone.

:wiggle:

Kaylore
04-16-2010, 11:44 AM
I would take Berry rather than trade the pick.

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:47 AM
I would take Berry rather than trade the pick.

You know as well as I do that Berry ain't gonna get to #11, silly buns.

gtown
04-16-2010, 11:48 AM
The Eagles? Probably not a good idea to trade with them. They just screwed up the McNabb deal and are likely looking to screw someone else over for their faults.

Stay at #11. Get some top talent for once.

SoDak Bronco
04-16-2010, 11:49 AM
I would take Berry rather than trade the pick.

eric berry?? noway in hell is he still there

Requiem
04-16-2010, 11:52 AM
The Eagles? Probably not a good idea to trade with them. They just screwed up the McNabb deal and are likely looking to screw someone else over for their faults.

Stay at #11. Get some top talent for once.

If they are moving up, they won't be screwing anyone over. They would have to budge to get the player they wanted. And to be completely honest, the value of the players we could get at #11 versus #24 would not be that much different. After the top eight or so players, perhaps ten -- the grades/levels in tiers of talent are pretty solid between those picks.

cutthemdown
04-16-2010, 12:15 PM
I'd rather have Thomas or Berry. Why pass on the best players in the draft to move down? Broncos need to look for studs.

Hamrob
04-16-2010, 12:17 PM
true.


but I think Odrick, Spoon, wilson, cody, benn, tate, could all be possibliities there.

I like spoon a lot lot! Like him more than Mclain....just speculation mind you, but I am sure there is someone there that will have great value for us.Spoon is a WLB in a 4-3...he is not tailored to the 3-4...AT ALL!

Spoon = Woodyard

oubronco
04-16-2010, 12:17 PM
I'd rather have Thomas or Berry. Why pass on the best players in the draft to move down? Broncos need to look for studs.

Exactly!! we need impact players

Requiem
04-16-2010, 12:21 PM
Spoon is a WLB in a 4-3...he is not tailored to the 3-4...AT ALL!

Spoon = Woodyard

Weatherspoon can play in a 3-4. Your comparison is about the stupidest I've ever read.

broncosteven
04-16-2010, 12:28 PM
If Berry is on the board we should grab him. Having him and Dawkins would be a great backfield. McBath would be excellent depth and when Dawkins hangs it up we have options.

I would be happy if we get a S, LG, C, or LB in the 1st 2 rounds. If we draft RB, WR, and CB before the 3rd or the needs above I will have a panick attack.

crazyhorse
04-16-2010, 12:34 PM
Im thinking both those guys will go in the top 7.

Gcver2ver3
04-16-2010, 12:36 PM
i like the trade if cj spiller is off the board by the time we pick...

PRBronco
04-16-2010, 12:45 PM
Another trade possibility, Nawrocki speculating that if the Bills don't take one of the top 4 OTs, there could be a frenzy of teams trying to trade up to get whoever's left: http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/04/15/premier-blockers-drive-trade-talk

Everybody knows Jacksonville won't take one, good news for us!

Rabb
04-16-2010, 12:47 PM
I like the trade because I want the team to address needs

if we stay at 11 we are taking BPA essentially, or reaching for someone...BPA is not that bad because you would get a solid player but why if we can move down to get what we need

the draft is too deep to think that we have to use the 11th pick on someone versus moving down to take exactly what we need and where they should go

kamakazi_kal
04-16-2010, 12:52 PM
Exactly!! we need impact players

no no no if we get an impact player THEN we trade him for draft picks.

Tombstone RJ
04-16-2010, 12:56 PM
I love this trade! Make it so McD!

25.) Pouncey C FL
35.) D. Thomas WR GT
44.) T. Cody NT AL
46.) J. Asamoah OG AL
80.) T. Gerhart RB Stanford

That's absolutely sick. :notworthy:wiggle:

Steve Sewell
04-16-2010, 12:56 PM
I like the trade because I want the team to address needs

if we stay at 11 we are taking BPA essentially, or reaching for someone...BPA is not that bad because you would get a solid player but why if we can move down to get what we need

the draft is too deep to think that we have to use the 11th pick on someone versus moving down to take exactly what we need and where they should go

Exactly, we need Pouncey in the 1st, and if we can get fair value to trade down and still get him, it is a HUGE win.

Steve Sewell
04-16-2010, 12:58 PM
I love this trade! Make it so McD!

25.) Pouncey C FL
35.) D. Thomas WR GT
44.) T. Cody NT AL
46.) J. Asamoah OG AL
80.) T. Gerhart RB Stanford

This would make me jizz in my pants, an epic round 1-3 haul. Although I'd rather have Benn at the WR spot.

Retire #30!!!
04-16-2010, 01:35 PM
no no no if we get an impact player then we trade him for draft picks.
This ^ rofl!

yerner
04-16-2010, 01:53 PM
Earl Thomas is going to be a pro bowler. If we trade out and don't take him, it will haunt the Broncos worse than Ed Reed. ED REEEEED!

underrated29
04-16-2010, 02:25 PM
Spoon is a WLB in a 4-3...he is not tailored to the 3-4...AT ALL!

Spoon = Woodyard



Not from what I have seen. Who told you this? I think they are on crack!

Spoon can also play ALL 4 LB positions. He might be kinda like woody, but better all around for sure. He has fire, tenacity and is a gamer 100%

LonghornBronco
04-16-2010, 03:10 PM
This would make me jizz in my pants, an epic round 1-3 haul. Although I'd rather have Benn at the WR spot.

I like Thomas' big play potential that will be lacking w/o Marshall.

LonghornBronco
04-16-2010, 03:12 PM
LonghornBronco, I am surprised you didn't have Shipley there instead of Thomas. ;)

I like Shipley, but I think we need a split end more than a slot guy.

cutthemdown
04-16-2010, 03:39 PM
If Berry is a stud and he won't be there then you trade up and get him. IMO Broncos will do something big. Hell we could be after Bradford for all you know. Broncos do something crazy, trade a QB and a first and 2nd round pick to rams to move up to number 1. It's safe to say we have no idea how Mcdaniels thinks yet. He's never been in charge before and is super young.

I'm not saying I think Broncos will move up but with the extra 2nd rounder this yr and next yr, and probably a 3rd or 4th comin from sheff, Broncos could probably burn a pick or 2.

cutthemdown
04-16-2010, 03:42 PM
If the Broncos trade Doom then I'm with the haters. No way Broncos could justify that. Good guy, good player, good numbers, fits the system.

Cito Pelon
04-16-2010, 03:45 PM
I'll be ok with staying at 11, or doing this or a similar tradedown. I think there will be some good players at 11 like Dan Williams or the LB McClain (if he's all he's cracked up to be, and I don't know that much about him), and NT/ILB can be considered as positions of need.

Obviously OC/OG is a position of need and that can probably be addressed in either scenario with the 2nd's.

It's gonna be interesting, because it seems like #11 always generates a lot of interest for draftday trades.

I could have just stated, "It's gonna be interesting", because I have no clue what the Broncs will do.

PRBronco
04-16-2010, 03:47 PM
If Berry is a stud and he won't be there then you trade up and get him. IMO Broncos will do something big. Hell we could be after Bradford for all you know. Broncos do something crazy, trade a QB and a first and 2nd round pick to rams to move up to number 1. It's safe to say we have no idea how Mcdaniels thinks yet. He's never been in charge before and is super young.

I'm not saying I think Broncos will move up but with the extra 2nd rounder this yr and next yr, and probably a 3rd or 4th comin from sheff, Broncos could probably burn a pick or 2.

Lol, all we know about him is that he'll do whatever he has to to get who he wants, and he doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks about his picks. Should be very interesting!

Cito Pelon
04-16-2010, 04:18 PM
I'd rather have Thomas or Berry. Why pass on the best players in the draft to move down? Broncos need to look for studs.

Ah, the age old argument about quality vs. quantity. I won't be bothered if Denver picks a stud at 11, even if it is not a position of need. The "BPA regardless of need" philosophy, I'm a fan of that philosophy.

If Denver trades down from 11, I think that will work out well also. This should be a pretty good draft whether they trade down or not.

boppool
04-16-2010, 04:27 PM
Jacksonville really wants to move down for Tebow.
They would love to take him at Eagle's 25th spot.

BMarsh615
04-16-2010, 04:33 PM
I don't want to move that far back. 15-17 is the furthest I would want to go down.

Hamrob
04-16-2010, 04:37 PM
Weatherspoon can play in a 3-4. Your comparison is about the stupidest I've ever read.Ever read your own posts? Let's wait and see brainiac...can't wait to see the 3-4 team that selects him. It won't be the Broncos!

Hamrob
04-16-2010, 04:39 PM
Not from what I have seen. Who told you this? I think they are on crack!

Spoon can also play ALL 4 LB positions. He might be kinda like woody, but better all around for sure. He has fire, tenacity and is a gamer 100%He's 230lbs soaking wet. He's not suited for a 3-4. He's projected as a weak side backer in the 4-3.

Hamrob
04-16-2010, 04:41 PM
Spoon:

http://www.drafttek.com/2010top10-5.asp

This is just one site that mentions him being a 4-3 weakside backer. Just about every other analyst sees it that way too! Sure some have said they think he can play in a 3-4 because of all his great attributes...but, he's suited for a 4-3. No 3-4 team is going to reach for him in the 1st.

DBroncos4life
04-16-2010, 04:46 PM
Spoon:

http://www.drafttek.com/2010top10-5.asp

This is just one site that mentions him being a 4-3 weakside backer. Just about every other analyst sees it that way too! Sure some have said they think he can play in a 3-4 because of all his great attributes...but, he's suited for a 4-3. No 3-4 team is going to reach for him in the 1st.

I agree with you to a degree but the Steelers have worked him out at ILB. They know a thing or two about LB's and the 3-4.

Requiem
04-16-2010, 05:09 PM
Weatherspoon has visited 3-4 and 4-3 teams, and if our coach seems to be interested in him, I think he would at least feel he had an opportunity to do well here. Weight (239, weigh in, BTW) isn't really that big of an issue. He can play inside or out. Not sure why people think otherwise.

meangene
04-16-2010, 05:13 PM
Spoon played inside last year and is 240, not 230. He has also expressed his personal preference to play inside and, though many draft guides project him outside because that was where he had played going into his senior year, most evaluators agree he can play any LB position. Many feel his leadership skills would be best put to use calling the signals inside.

Tombstone RJ
04-16-2010, 10:52 PM
I think I'd rather have Witherspoon than McClain if the Broncos draft a LBer in the first round. That being said, I wouldn't take Witherspoon at 11. I'd much rather the Broncos trade down and take Lee or Witherspoon or wait until the 2nd and take Spikes.

meangene
04-16-2010, 11:35 PM
I think I'd rather have Witherspoon than McClain if the Broncos draft a LBer in the first round. That being said, I wouldn't take Witherspoon at 11. I'd much rather the Broncos trade down and take Lee or Witherspoon or wait until the 2nd and take Spikes.

If we could trade down, take Weatherspoon, and have three second round picks in this draft it ahould be one hell of a draft! Add a fourth for Schef and wow!

ZONA
04-17-2010, 12:00 AM
Another trade possibility, Nawrocki speculating that if the Bills don't take one of the top 4 OTs, there could be a frenzy of teams trying to trade up to get whoever's left: http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/04/15/premier-blockers-drive-trade-talk

Everybody knows Jacksonville won't take one, good news for us!

I have a funny feeling that some of these tackles are going to fall a bit. The hype of Thomas moving up and the Spiller noise, not to mention Clausen could still be on the board. I believe there could be quite a few teams wanting to move up for their future QB, S or Tackle.

Ziggy
04-17-2010, 12:04 AM
Send the 11th to the Eagles for the 24th, 55th, and a 3rd rounder next year. Pouncey, Odrick, Weatherspoon, Graham, Tate or Cody. At least 1 or 2 of these players should be there at 24. Denver picks up an extra 2nd in this draft, and has a 1st, 2-2nds, and 2-3rds in next year's draft.

ZONA
04-17-2010, 12:11 AM
Send the 11th to the Eagles for the 24th, 55th, and a 3rd rounder next year. Pouncey, Odrick, Weatherspoon, Graham, Tate or Cody. At least 1 or 2 of these players should be there at 24. Denver picks up an extra 2nd in this draft, and has a 1st, 2-2nds, and 2-3rds in next year's draft.

I usually condone acquiring picks for the following year but I think moving all the way down to #24 is huge and for me getting #55 (and a 2011 3rd) is just too steep due to how deep this draft is. You can't just factor in points on the pick selections, you have to consider the scope of the players in the draft. We don't know exactly what next year will look like but this years draft is one of the best in a long time.

The only way I would take the Eagles 24th is if they gave us #35 as well. Then...........what you could do is say move back from #35 down to say #45 and I'm sure that would be worth a 2011 2nd rounder, and you are still picking 10 spots above #55.

BroncoBuff
04-17-2010, 12:19 AM
Yah, Philly has like 11 picks in this draft. It just makes sense for them to move up and get at least one player they really like. Overall, they are a relatively young team.

You know the Eagles some ... tell me, what's the deal with Kolb? They must either love him or hate Donovan, cause that was one screwy trade.

Tombstone RJ
04-17-2010, 07:39 AM
You know the Eagles some ... tell me, what's the deal with Kolb? They must either love him or hate Donovan, cause that was one screwy trade.

Actually, I just know this stuff because it was on NFLN (about Philly having a bunch of picks and being a young team and dumping McNabb). As for Kolb, he's going to learn quickly that being the backup is a lot different than being the man in Philly. I think Philly's front office just wanted to part ways with McNabb and start over with Kolb, obviously, they like the guy.

brother love
04-17-2010, 08:27 AM
Trade back take Pouncey in the first, then take Ducasse, or Asamoah in the second as well as a wide receiver maybe Benn.
However I don't see the Eagles doing this. they rarely take skill position guys in the first round, usually lineman.
The Giants at 15 are the most probable if McClain is there at 11

cutthemdown
04-17-2010, 10:54 AM
I usually condone acquiring picks for the following year but I think moving all the way down to #24 is huge and for me getting #55 (and a 2011 3rd) is just too steep due to how deep this draft is. You can't just factor in points on the pick selections, you have to consider the scope of the players in the draft. We don't know exactly what next year will look like but this years draft is one of the best in a long time.

The only way I would take the Eagles 24th is if they gave us #35 as well. Then...........what you could do is say move back from #35 down to say #45 and I'm sure that would be worth a 2011 2nd rounder, and you are still picking 10 spots above #55.

Dude you are making some great posts. This is more sound reasoning right here. Also if I could add Broncos have plenty of spots for young players this yr. No reason to wait until next yr for more picks. IMO I think that you do that when you have a team that is more set with established players. You don't want 10 rookies when you know you only have 2-3 spots on roster for new players because the returning team so deep and solid.

For Broncos it seems they have opened up a lot of chances to make team for young players. They will want a large contingency to look at in TC and offseason work. I think Broncos if they add picks, it will be this yr.

You never know that anything can happen and usually does in Broncoland. It would be nice to do something big though that gets the fans fired up.

SpringStein
04-17-2010, 12:34 PM
Trade back take Pouncey in the first, then take Ducasse, or Asamoah in the second as well as a wide receiver maybe Benn.
However I don't see the Eagles doing this. they rarely take skill position guys in the first round, usually lineman.
The Giants at 15 are the most probable if McClain is there at 11

Rob Rang reported that the target for Philly trading up is McClain, not a S as speculated by King.

baja
04-17-2010, 01:13 PM
Rob Rang reported that the target for Philly trading up is McClain, not a S as speculated by King.

Number 11 is such a great spot there are likely more than one team that would like to trade for it so we may get a great offer playing one team off on another. With a little luck this could be a signature draft for the Denver Broncos and Josh McD.

ayjackson
04-17-2010, 01:48 PM
Would you rather trade for #25 & #35 or #25, #55 and #70?

I think I'd prefer the latter.

baja
04-17-2010, 01:53 PM
Not me I'd take the #25 & 35 because this gives us better trade back up or down again options. It's all about options to make a move for a guy that fits your system if you are Josh McD

Denver724
04-17-2010, 02:01 PM
Rob Rang reported that the target for Philly trading up is McClain, not a S as speculated by King.

Philly will trade up with the jags to get in front of us to take McClain. We will miss out on the bounty that comes with moving up this many spots.

TheReverend
04-17-2010, 02:06 PM
Philly will trade up with the jags to get in front of us to take McClain. We will miss out on the bounty that comes with moving up this many spots.

Pretty solid scenario. Jax sure wouldn't mind trading down to the mid 20s to grab Tebow.

baja
04-17-2010, 02:08 PM
Philly will trade up with the jags to get in front of us to take McClain. We will miss out on the bounty that comes with moving up this many spots.


They would have to be willing to trade.

and even if the Jags did want to trade Philly would do better to trade with us they still get mcClain but for less that top 10 money.

Fail Rev. ;D

Hercules Rockefeller
04-17-2010, 02:10 PM
Would you rather trade for #25 & #35 or #25, #55 and #70?

I think I'd prefer the latter.

The latter is unrealistic. Too many quality picks to only move to #11.

ScottXray
04-17-2010, 02:18 PM
The latter is unrealistic. Too many quality picks to only move to #11.

Maybe . The 25/35 is about 40 points in our favor. 25/55 is too little and they are the ones that want to move up. However, I'd rather have the 35, and move in front of our division brethren in the second round. That is a win for us that allows us to pick ahead of them all. Don't know if Philly would offer that much though.

baja
04-17-2010, 02:23 PM
Maybe . The 25/35 is about 40 points in our favor. 25/55 is too little and they are the ones that want to move up. However, I'd rather have the 35, and move in front of our division brethren in the second round. That is a win for us that allows us to pick ahead of them all. Don't know if Philly would offer that much though.

we could always throw them a 6 next year.

Hercules Rockefeller
04-17-2010, 02:24 PM
Maybe . The 25/35 is about 40 points in our favor. 25/55 is too little and they are the ones that want to move up. However, I'd rather have the 35, and move in front of our division brethren in the second round. That is a win for us that allows us to pick ahead of them all. Don't know if Philly would offer that much though.

It's not a pick value thing, it's just unrealistic to see a team giving up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to only move to #11.

Even if the values matched on the chart, the quality of picks (as in the rounds the picks are in) they'd be giving up doesn't match the quality of pick they'd be getting back.

You're just not going to see a trade where a team gives up picks in 3 consecutive rounds.

Ziggy
04-17-2010, 05:53 PM
It's not a pick value thing, it's just unrealistic to see a team giving up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to only move to #11.

Even if the values matched on the chart, the quality of picks (as in the rounds the picks are in) they'd be giving up doesn't match the quality of pick they'd be getting back.

You're just not going to see a trade where a team gives up picks in 3 consecutive rounds.

Other than this one:

http://photos.upi.com/topics-Ricky-Williams-is-interviewed-alongside-coach-Mike-Ditka/abfed562ade34d2e22530b4a23f23239/R_2.jpg

FireFly
04-17-2010, 07:14 PM
I'd pull the trigger on #24 & #35 in a heartbeat

imo there's no way it happens though

there will not be very much trading up this year imo

#24 & #55 is far more realistic and not nearly as tempting

NFLBRONCO
04-17-2010, 08:13 PM
I'd pull the trigger on #24 & #35 in a heartbeat

imo there's no way it happens though

there will not be very much trading up this year imo

#24 & #55 is far more realistic and not nearly as tempting


You'd hate 4 picks in the top 55?????? We could fill alot of our needs with those picks. BTW I'd love 35 more too but, man we'd still do alright.

Tombstone RJ
04-17-2010, 09:09 PM
running out of steam

UberBroncoMan
04-17-2010, 09:20 PM
Man do I wish we still had #14. McClain or Weatherspoon kick the **** out of Alphonso Smith.

Would mean a potential 2 1st rounders and 3 2nd rounders in this deep ****ing draft, bah.

Tombstone RJ
04-17-2010, 09:29 PM
this draft ain't that deep. It's deep, but not that deep. Now I'm talk'n freaky...

ELEVATION
04-18-2010, 05:19 AM
the Eagles top needs are safety and DE, they wont be trading up for mclain at all he isnt a great fit for MLB in the 4-3 or SLB, The eagles have stewart bradley for MLB coming back who they like...they may need depth there at MLB, mcclain isnt it.

They let will weathersppon go so they have nothing at WLB, so if they want a LB in rd 1 it will be Sean weatherspoon, they dont need mcclain

as for safety they would be lucky to get thomas.....but keep in mind derrick morgan could be a target for them as well



Dont forget MCD said he has fielded a bunch of calls already for people asking about trading up to 11.....he himself stated they have a plan set up to eitehr pick a player at 11 or tarde back...