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baja
04-06-2010, 11:27 AM
I think so.

Shanny has always "borrowed" the new trends that he liked. That said he watched what his Broncos did last year and now he is willing to toss away a good 4 - 3 defense to get on the 3 -4 bandwagon.

Josh brings in someone else's starter (Orton) to run his system while he grooms someone else so Shanny runs out a steals McNabb.

Josh goes bigger on O line and watch Shanny follow suit here to.


;D

baja
04-06-2010, 11:30 AM
I bet Shanny mumbles to himself, "I wonder what Josh would do in this situation"?

Mr.Meanie
04-06-2010, 11:34 AM
I predict an entertaining thread

Taco John
04-06-2010, 11:36 AM
LOL

Baja trolling...

Rabb
04-06-2010, 11:37 AM
I predict an entertaining thread

to say the very least

Rohirrim
04-06-2010, 11:38 AM
LOL

Baja trolling...

Trolling? I don't think so. I think he's sincere. Shanahan is following the McDaniels model. After all, he never could draft worth a ****. Learn from the master, Mike. Learn from the master. :thumbsup:

Los Broncos
04-06-2010, 11:40 AM
Here we go.

Popps
04-06-2010, 11:41 AM
Countdown to BPC menstrual meltdown in 5.....4.....3.....2....

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 11:41 AM
Where's the poll baja?

broncosteven
04-06-2010, 11:42 AM
LOL

Baja trolling...

Or drunk and lonely.

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 11:43 AM
This thread goes less than 2 pages of mild amusement before the serious responses turn it EPIC...

http://i39.tinypic.com/214dwza.gif

Popps
04-06-2010, 11:44 AM
Better poll...

If Shanahan would have traded for McNabb instead of Cutler... would he still have a job in Denver today?

Yes

No

Beantown Bronco
04-06-2010, 11:44 AM
That said he watched what his Broncos did last year and now he is willing to toss away a good 4 - 3 defense to get on the 3 -4 bandwagon.

Except for the fact that Shanny and Slowik made the decision to run a 3-4 defense wherever they went next and were touring the camps of teams that ran the 3-4 defense in the summer of 2009 before it was even made clear exactly what schemes Denver would be running and just how successful McD/Nolan's defense would be last season.

baja
04-06-2010, 11:49 AM
Where's the poll baja?

No poll necessary on this .

And the OP is a serious question.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 11:50 AM
They already admitted to doing so. They tried to copy the 2007 Patriots offense in 2008.

baja
04-06-2010, 11:50 AM
Except for the fact that Shanny and Slowik made the decision to run a 3-4 defense wherever they went next and were touring the camps of teams that ran the 3-4 defense in the summer of 2009 before it was even made clear exactly what schemes Denver would be running and just how successful McD/Nolan's defense would be last season.

That's what they would like you to think...

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 11:59 AM
I'm sure on opening day Shanahan will come out pale, wearing a hoodie with the sleeves cut off.

go_broncos
04-06-2010, 12:03 PM
yes..every coach in NFL copies Mcd as he is a hall of fame coach and won multiple SB's with Kyle Franchise orton.

lostknight
04-06-2010, 12:05 PM
I think so.

Shanny has always "borrowed" the new trends that he liked. That said he watched what his Broncos did last year and now he is willing to toss away a good 4 - 3 defense to get on the 3 -4 bandwagon.

Josh brings in someone else's starter (Orton) to run his system while he grooms someone else so Shanny runs out a steals McNabb.

Josh goes bigger on O line and watch Shanny follow suit here to.


;D

Talk about trolling and deeply delusional at the same moment. Shanahan tried multiple times to go to the 3-4 prior to Nolan's changes.

As for McNabb, let me think about this. Think Shanahan might be any good with a older Quarterback with a decent arm and lots of experience? The changes that he can make McNabb perform like Elway has nothing to do with McKid.

hades
04-06-2010, 12:05 PM
I'm sure on opening day Shanahan will come out pale, wearing a hoodie with the sleeves cut off.

And if they ever play/win against the Bronco's, he will do a minimum of 8 fist pumps and drop an F bomb.

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 12:07 PM
This thread goes less than 2 pages of mild amusement before the serious responses turn it EPIC...

http://i39.tinypic.com/214dwza.gif

I was one page off.

baja
04-06-2010, 12:10 PM
Talk about trolling and deeply delusional at the same moment. Shanahan tried multiple times to go to the 3-4 prior to Nolan's changes.

As for McNabb, let me think about this. Think Shanahan might be any good with a older Quarterback with a decent arm and lots of experience? The changes that he can make McNabb perform like Elway has nothing to do with McKid.

This is not trolling - It would be less that smart if Shanny ignored a good idea just because it came from a first year coach. Shanny is way too smart to not recognize Josh's genius. No Sir Shanny knows... He will copy his every move until someone better comes along Just you watch and see. Shanny has been a copy cat all his career and I mean this as a complement

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 12:12 PM
And if they ever play/win against the Bronco's, he will do a minimum of 8 fist pumps and drop an F bomb.

I also see him calling out players from the other teams right before the game starts. :thumbsup:

baja
04-06-2010, 12:16 PM
They already admitted to doing so. They tried to copy the 2007 Patriots offense in 2008.

That's right - good point Bean, good point

Beantown Bronco
04-06-2010, 12:18 PM
That's right - good point Bean, good point

I can't take credit for that one. :P

baja
04-06-2010, 12:18 PM
Talk about trolling and deeply delusional at the same moment. Shanahan tried multiple times to go to the 3-4 prior to Nolan's changes.

As for McNabb, let me think about this.<b> Think Shanahan might be any good with a older Quarterback with a decent arm and lots of experience? The changes that he can make McNabb perform like Elway has nothing to do with McKid.

Of course he will and he got the idea by watching what Josh did with Orton last season

Popps
04-06-2010, 12:19 PM
Talk about trolling and deeply delusional at the same moment. Shanahan tried multiple times to go to the 3-4 prior to Nolan's changes.

As for McNabb, let me think about this. Think Shanahan might be any good with a older Quarterback with a decent arm and lots of experience? The changes that he can make McNabb perform like Elway has nothing to do with McKid.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Crocker1.JPG

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 12:19 PM
Of course he will and he got the idea by watching what Josh did with Orton last season

You're on form today mister.

baja
04-06-2010, 12:19 PM
I can't take credit for that one. :P


Opps

I mean FB ;D

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 12:22 PM
Of course he will and he got the idea by watching what Josh did with Orton last season

27 is the new 33 right?

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 12:23 PM
Opps

I mean FB ;D

You are forgiven. :approve:

baja
04-06-2010, 12:26 PM
27 is the new 33 right?

It's not the age it's the concept. Look Josh brings is a smart team guy leader vet to stabilize the O and run things for a couple of years all the while grooming the successor. That's what Josh did and Shanny is copying it NBT.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 12:29 PM
It's not the age it's the concept. Look Josh brings is a smart team guy leader vet to stabilize the O and run things for a couple of years all the while grooming the successor. That's what Josh did and Shanny is copying it NBT.

Wow! You really believe this? I thought this was a joke thread but you're serious.

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 12:31 PM
No doubt about it.

Shanny copied McPoopyPants and hired male family members.

Next, he'll go to Arrowhead and win a regular season game and fist pump his way around the stadium.

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 12:33 PM
Wow! You really believe this? I thought this was a joke thread but you're serious.

He's fishing, it's funny, lighten up.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 12:34 PM
He's fishing, it's funny, lighten up.

I thought you put me on ignore.

Popps
04-06-2010, 12:35 PM
I thought you put me on ignore.

No, that was me... oh, wait.. never mind.

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 12:35 PM
I thought you put me on ignore.

It's halftime in the football.

Ahem/

s0phr0syne
04-06-2010, 12:37 PM
He's already put their best player on the trading block....hmmmmmmmm!

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 12:38 PM
He's already put their best player on the trading block....hmmmmmmmm!

Portis isn't on the trading block...

baja
04-06-2010, 12:38 PM
Wow! You really believe this? I thought this was a joke thread but you're serious.

Look this is NOT a dig on Shanny but rather a compliment. Shanny used up all his ideas in 16 years of HC (This is why he was fired, remember) but Shanny is no fool he sees a fresh new idea and (like many of us here) he recognizes it as a great idea so he implements it with his team. Smart!!!

You just watch Shanny will follow Josh to a tee all this season.

His next move will be to the Power blocking scheme again following Josh's lead.

Look fro him to change his training camp too. No more Club Med.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 12:41 PM
I did, but have been viewing posts of people on here as it's hilarious watching people meltdown over a blatant windup, and it's halftime in the football.

Right. ROFL!

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 12:42 PM
No, that was me... oh, wait.. never mind.

Popps you know I heart your face. :peace:

baja
04-06-2010, 12:42 PM
He's already put their best player on the trading block....hmmmmmmmm!

Another good point, get rid of the locker room cancer even if it is your best player - sound familiar ??

doonwise
04-06-2010, 12:49 PM
Another good point, get rid of the locker room cancer even if it is your best player - sound familiar ??

Mike Leach! :rofl:

baja
04-06-2010, 12:51 PM
Look Shanny is fresh out of new ideas so what is the smart thing for him to do? Go find some that's what. He is copying Josh right now not that there is any thing wrong with that. ;D

s0phr0syne
04-06-2010, 12:58 PM
Portis isn't on the trading block...


You need to make sure your hot tub is set to 2010 instead of 2004.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 01:00 PM
You need to make sure your hot tub is set to 2010 instead of 2004.

:notworthy Awesome.

oubronco
04-06-2010, 01:06 PM
Another stupid thread

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 01:14 PM
You need to make sure your hot tub is set to 2010 instead of 2004.

http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/6527/original/john_stewart_facepalm.jpg

baja
04-06-2010, 01:15 PM
So you think coaches don't copy one another?

TDmvp
04-06-2010, 01:17 PM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3629/dcp0546.jpg

baja
04-06-2010, 01:18 PM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3629/dcp0546.jpg

Is that you?

TonyR
04-06-2010, 01:20 PM
Shanahan tried multiple times to go to the 3-4 prior to Nolan's changes.


He did make some desperation driven, futile attempts to run some semblance of a 3-4 his last few years in Denver. The problem is he kept bringing in the wrong personnel to run it. Or to run any NFL defense effectively, for that matter...

Smiling Assassin27
04-06-2010, 01:21 PM
Snyder to Shanahan: It's not about 'my bad' anymore...make the play.

baja
04-06-2010, 01:22 PM
Snyder to Shanahan: It's not about 'my bad' anymore...make the play.

Ouch!

How much of that could Shanny take?

HAT
04-06-2010, 01:23 PM
I'm sure on opening day Shanahan will come out pale, wearing a hoodie with the sleeves cut off.

McD doesn't cut the sleeves. :wiggle:

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 01:26 PM
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3629/dcp0546.jpg

As opposed to yours which would say....


http://i39.tinypic.com/2rr407r.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/289d5ax.jpg


So an...

http://i40.tinypic.com/68ef5l.jpg

...to you sir.

go_broncos
04-06-2010, 01:28 PM
Baja..Mcd copies Bellicheck.so, your point of shanny copying mcd is not correct.
also, what did mcd achieve on the field?.To me, he is suited to coach college player's.

baja
04-06-2010, 01:31 PM
Baja..Mcd copies Bellicheck.so, your point of shanny copying mcd is not correct.
also, what did mcd achieve on the field?.To me, he is suited to coach college player's.

Sure Josh took some things with him when he left NE. Not a bad to apprentice under the best coach in the league is it?

s0phr0syne
04-06-2010, 01:33 PM
2nd best now that the Shanaplan is back in motion.

baja
04-06-2010, 01:35 PM
2nd best now that the Shanaplan is back in motion.

I love Shanny but he is going to have to prove that to me.

TDmvp
04-06-2010, 01:58 PM
OoOO Dagmar you got me , you are so much better fan than others we get it...

So I guess if The Broncos hired someone you hated you would just lie to yourself and say you liked him.

I have disliked Josh for O say 8 to 10 years since his Ohio days and him being hired by Denver doesn't magically fix that. I know super homer would just sweep his values and stuff under the rug and lie but that's for super fan guy not me.


It's not the first time the Broncos have done something I hoped didn't work ...
See Maurice Clarett , who I hate cause I hate OSU ... But I guess when we drafted him I should have just magically love him.


I don't just change my views of something because someone tells me to or it's vogue at that time. It's called a spine ...


As I've said like 200 times , I hated Josh 10 years before he was hired . I have given and I'm giving him a chance to change that and SOME things about him has grown on me... Maybe he'll win me over , maybe he wont...

And in that thread you keep quoting of me I was actually being sarcastic and referencing the WANDA SYKES joke about Rush Limbah ...

But since you don't understand much I wouldn't expect you to get sarcasm.


Considering this isn't hard to understand... I'm sorry our education system failed you.
But Nom Nom Nom to you as well...

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 02:15 PM
Look this is NOT a dig on Shanny but rather a compliment. Shanny used up all his ideas in 16 years of HC (This is why he was fired, remember) but Shanny is no fool he sees a fresh new idea and (like many of us here) he recognizes it as a great idea so he implements it with his team. Smart!!!

You just watch Shanny will follow Josh to a tee all this season.

His next move will be to the Power blocking scheme again following Josh's lead.

Look fro him to change his training camp too. No more Club Med.

But will he waste a roster slot on the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan? I rather doubt it. :P

baja
04-06-2010, 02:19 PM
But will he waste a roster slot on the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan? I rather doubt it. :P

He brought in Larry "the Load" Johnson didn't he?

baja
04-06-2010, 02:22 PM
When you really look at it Shanny is coping every move Josh makes.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 02:26 PM
When you really look at it Shanny is coping every move Josh makes.

I'm pretty positive Shanahan could have used his own formula to finish 8-8 and not have to copy someone to do that.

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 02:28 PM
But will he waste a roster slot on the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan? I rather doubt it. :P

Blue, you really don't want to get into a debate about who wastes roster spots.

Shanny wins hands down, and may never be caught by McPoopyPants.

At least I hope not. ;D

Mr.Meanie
04-06-2010, 02:34 PM
But will he waste a roster slot on the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan? I rather doubt it. :P

Sports and message boards: Where fat and lazy wal-mart greeters feel justified calling multi-millionaire elite athletes fat and lazy.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 02:36 PM
He brought in Larry "the Load" Johnson didn't he?

All the more reason why he wouldn't sign the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan. He's been available for more than a month and no one wants him. :P

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 02:40 PM
Blue, you really don't want to get into a debate about who wastes roster spots.

Shanny wins hands down, and may never be caught by McPoopyPants.

At least I hope not. ;D

Um... well, yeah. McD has only been a HC for one season, so that wasn't what I was saying at all. Baja asked if Shanahan was copying McD.... to do that fully, wouldn't he need a fat, lazy turd of a RB who seldom saw any playing time. Maybe LJ can play that part.

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 02:42 PM
OoOO Dagmar you got me , you are so much better fan than others we get it...

So I guess if The Broncos hired someone you hated you would just lie to yourself and say you liked him.

I have disliked Josh for O say 8 to 10 years since his Ohio days and him being hired by Denver doesn't magically fix that. I know super homer would just sweep his values and stuff under the rug and lie but that's for super fan guy not me.


It's not the first time the Broncos have done something I hoped didn't work ...
See Maurice Clarett , who I hate cause I hate OSU ... But I guess when we drafted him I should have just magically love him.


I don't just change my views of something because someone tells me to or it's vogue at that time. It's called a spine ...


As I've said like 200 times , I hated Josh 10 years before he was hired . I have given and I'm giving him a chance to change that and SOME things about him has grown on me... Maybe he'll win me over , maybe he wont...

And in that thread you keep quoting of me I was actually being sarcastic and referencing the WANDA SYKES joke about Rush Limbah ...

But since you don't understand much I wouldn't expect you to get sarcasm.


Considering this isn't hard to understand... I'm sorry our education system failed you.
But Nom Nom Nom to you as well...

I just like razzing you buddy...

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 02:44 PM
Um... well, yeah. McD has only been a HC for one season, so that wasn't what I was saying at all. Baja asked if Shanahan was copying McD.... to do that fully, wouldn't he need a fat, lazy turd of a RB who seldom saw any playing time. Maybe LJ can play that part.

No LJ could at least rush for 100 yards without requiring 150 carries to reach it.

baja
04-06-2010, 02:46 PM
All the more reason why he wouldn't sign the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan. He's been available for more than a month and no one wants him. :P

Duh. I said Shanny is copying Josh and LJ is Shanny's Jordan.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 02:47 PM
Sports and message boards: Where fat and lazy wal-mart greeters feel justified calling multi-millionaire elite athletes fat and lazy.

1. I don't even shop at WalMart, much less work there. And while I could probably stand to lose a few pounds, I'm not generally perceived as "fat".
2. It's a ginormous stretch to describe LaMont Jordan as "elite"... and I also doubt that he's a "multi-millionaire"... unless he's retained the services of a competent financial planner and invested wisely.
3. Jordan's own teammate (Warren Sapp) said he's "fat and lazy" (and yes, I could find a link to the quote).

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 02:49 PM
But will he waste a roster slot on the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan? I rather doubt it. :P

We actually were in the LaMont Jordan sweepstakes when he left the Jets for the Raiders.

Next.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 02:49 PM
Duh. I said Shanny is copying Josh and LJ is Shanny's Jordan.

I dunno... I see Portis as probably getting most of the carries (a la Moreno's role with the Broncos) and LJ getting the second-most (more like Buckhalter in Denver). So Shanahan would still need a fat, lazy slug to polish the bench and be inactive for nearly half of the games.

bowtown
04-06-2010, 02:49 PM
Duh. I said Shanny is copying Josh and LJ is Shanny's Jordan.

No, if LJ was a good veteran locker room voice that could help Shanahan transition his philosophy and system to the hold over players and the young rookies, then he would be copying Josh and Jordan. LJ is jut a slow old punk. Not really similar.

TDmvp
04-06-2010, 02:50 PM
I just like razzing you buddy...


:approve:
Yea man if we didn't play fight this place would be no fun at all LOL ... I can take it tho , I'm thick skinned ....


There's not many here I actually don't like ... Heck even Baja and me would maybe get along in real life.


We are all Broncos fans .... even Boob ....Hilarious!

baja
04-06-2010, 02:51 PM
No, if LJ was a good veteran locker room voice that could help Shanahan transition his philosophy and system to the hold over players and the young rookies, then he would be copying Josh and Jordan. LJ is jut a slow old punk. Not really similar.

Good point

Shanny will find his Jordan it's early. Has he brought in any of his old running backs yet?

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 02:52 PM
Um... well, yeah. McD has only been a HC for one season, so that wasn't what I was saying at all. Baja asked if Shanahan was copying McD.... to do that fully, wouldn't he need a fat, lazy turd of a RB who seldom saw any playing time. Maybe LJ can play that part.

I would hope that Shanny and Bobby Turner learned that lesson with Mo Clarret.

BTW, I didn't like the Jordan pick up either.

Popps
04-06-2010, 02:52 PM
3. Jordan's own teammate .

Still obsessing over a 3rd string bit-player for us from last season, huh Blueflame?

It's weird, because you know... we basically released our entire 2008 defense and they're all out of work. Yet, I rarely hear you obsessing over that giant collection of dog droppings.

Just Jordan.

It's fine that Shanahan signed gems like Boss Bailey to big contracts, but you've got a life-long obsession with a 3rd string RB.

Makes good sense. As you were...

Mr.Meanie
04-06-2010, 02:54 PM
2. It's a ginormous stretch to describe LaMont Jordan as "elite"... and I also doubt that he's a "multi-millionaire"... unless he's retained the services of a competent financial planner and invested wisely.

He signed a $27M contract with the Raiders and a $2.5M contract with us. How many millions does it take to qualify someone as a multi-milionaire? ???

And he played in one of the most physically demanding sports in the world and had a pretty decent career. So like I said...

bowtown
04-06-2010, 02:54 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06w25kX0ir8Wc/340x.jpg

baja
04-06-2010, 02:54 PM
Still obsessing over a 3rd string bit-player for us from last season, huh Blueflame?

It's weird, because you know... we basically released our entire 2008 defense and they're all out of work. Yet, I rarely hear you obsessing over that giant collection of dog droppings.

Just Jordan.

It's fine that Shanahan signed gems like Boss Bailey to big contracts, but you've got a life-long obsession with a 3rd string RB.

Makes good sense. As you were...

what was that line you used the other day, it was similar to dog droppings but much funnier. I think it was you?

baja
04-06-2010, 02:56 PM
He signed a $27M contract with the Raiders and a $2.5M contract with us. How many millions does it take to qualify someone as a multi-milionaire? ???

And he played in one of the most physically demanding sports in the world and had a pretty decent career. So like I said...

Did we really pay him 2.5 mil last season? That does suck.

Mr.Meanie
04-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Did we really pay him 2.5 mil last season? That does suck.

It was for 2 seasons I believe

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 02:57 PM
We actually were in the LaMont Jordan sweepstakes when he left the Jets for the Raiders.

Next.

So? He's years older now and everyone knows he's fat and lazy... he's been a FA for more than a month... if Shanahan had any interest in him at all, he could have signed him. But if there's been the slightest hint of interest... from any team in the league... I certainly haven't seen the article. Have you?

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 02:58 PM
I would hope that Shanny and Bobby Turner learned that lesson with Mo Clarret.

BTW, I didn't like the Jordan pick up either.

Mo Clarett never even made it through training camp. ;)

Arkie
04-06-2010, 02:58 PM
I learned from Raiders owner Al Davis. When I was around him, I would ask myself, "Why has he won three Super Bowls? Why?" I knew why when I left the Raiders.
-Shanahan, Chapter 3: Learning to Follow the Leaders

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 02:58 PM
Still obsessing over a 3rd string bit-player for us from last season, huh Blueflame?

It's weird, because you know... we basically released our entire 2008 defense and they're all out of work. Yet, I rarely hear you obsessing over that giant collection of dog droppings.

Just Jordan.

It's fine that Shanahan signed gems like Boss Bailey to big contracts, but you've got a life-long obsession with a 3rd string RB.

Makes good sense. As you were...

Those weren't former Patriots though, so who gives a ****? ROFL!

I was hoping we'd sign Ben Watson to replace Scheffler and Mankins to replace Hamilton just so we could watch Blueflame go into convulsions. Ha!

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:00 PM
So? He's years older now How dare he get older! Clear proof he sucks!

and everyone knows he's fat and lazy... Then why did the Patriots keep him on their roster in 2008?

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:01 PM
Still obsessing over a 3rd string bit-player for us from last season, huh Blueflame?

It's weird, because you know... we basically released our entire 2008 defense and they're all out of work. Yet, I rarely hear you obsessing over that giant collection of dog droppings.

Just Jordan.

It's fine that Shanahan signed gems like Boss Bailey to big contracts, but you've got a life-long obsession with a 3rd string RB.

Makes good sense. As you were...

No, Popps. Jordan's gone.... I'm glad he is. But I'm just having fun on this thread, as it seemed was the original intention of the OP.

*insert pic of Heath Ledger... "why so serious?"*

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 03:04 PM
Mo Clarett never even made it through training camp. ;)

Even worse after wasting a good draft pick.

As Popps pointed out, Shanny's last roster was loaded with deadbeats who are no longer in the league.

Why so focused on the ex Patriot?? Ha!

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:05 PM
How dare he get older! Clear proof he sucks!

Then why did the Patriots keep him on their roster in 2008?

If you're looking for proof that he sucks, his career stats are a good start.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JordLa00.htm

As for the Pats, I just don't know how they'd have managed to win a single game without his 363 yards. :P

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:07 PM
Even worse after wasting a good draft pick.

As Popps pointed out, Shanny's last roster was loaded with deadbeats who are no longer in the league.

Why so focused on the ex Patriot?? Ha!

He's not "just" an ex-Patriot. He's an ex-Raider too. That's reason enough to dislike him.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:09 PM
If you're looking for proof that he sucks, his career stats are a good start.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JordLa00.htm

As for the Pats, I just don't know how they'd have managed to win a single game without his 363 yards. :P

So a 1000 yard rushing season, 31 career touchdowns and a career average of over 4 yards a carry is "sucking" now?

Gotcha.

Pats are well known to have never put up with lazy players. If he was lazy he never would have stayed there. Of course not all of us are dumb enough to label a guy as lazy just because a former teammate said so.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:10 PM
He's not "just" an ex-Patriot. He's an ex-Raider too. That's reason enough to dislike him.

So was Mike Shanahan.

crush17
04-06-2010, 03:12 PM
So was Mike Shanahan.

pwn3d.

Dagmar
04-06-2010, 03:13 PM
See what you've done baja?

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:14 PM
So a 1000 yard rushing season, 31 career touchdowns and a career average of over 4 yards a carry is "sucking" now?

Gotcha.

Yep. Just one good season in what? 9?

Pats are well known to have never put up with lazy players. If he was lazy he never would have stayed there. Of course not all of us are dumb enough to label a guy as lazy just because a former teammate said so.

Pats didn't keep him longer than one season did they? Thought not.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:15 PM
See what you've done baja?

It's Blue's fault. She interjects these tired arguments into the threads knowing full well she's going to get absolutely hammered for them.

Personally, I think she has a thing for pain and punishment.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:15 PM
So was Mike Shanahan.

Mike Shanahan was an ex-Patriot and an ex-Raider? Who knew. He hid that Patriot experience too well, I guess.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:17 PM
See what you've done baja?

T'was what he wanted (hoped) to do...

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:18 PM
It's Blue's fault. She interjects these tired arguments into the threads knowing full well she's going to get absolutely hammered for them.

Personally, I think she has a thing for pain and punishment.

Anyone who took this thread (or most of what's posted in it) seriously... just doesn't "get" the whole point of the thread.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:18 PM
Yep. Just one good season in what? 9? Depends what you call good. Considering he spent the early part of his career as a backup to one of the greatest running backs in NFL history and then had injury problems in Oakland, yeah I'd say he had a pretty decent career.

You don't last that long in the NFL if you suck.

Pats didn't keep him longer than one season did they? Thought not. That's because they signed him to a one year contract. His contract was up and he followed Josh to Denver.

If he was a fat lazy slug like you suggest, he wouldn't have lasted til the end of his contract. Anyone who knows how the Pats operate will tell you this.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:20 PM
Mike Shanahan was an ex-Patriot and an ex-Raider? Who knew. He hid that Patriot experience too well, I guess.

Brain dead much?

Anyone who took this thread (or most of what's posted in it) seriously... just doesn't "get" the whole point of the thread.

Oh believe me, not taking it serious. Just having more fun at your expense.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:21 PM
Depends what you call good. Considering he spent the early part of his career as a backup to one of the greatest running backs in NFL history and then had injury problems in Oakland, yeah I'd say he had a pretty decent career.

You don't last that long in the NFL if you suck.

That's because they signed him to a one year contract. His contract was up and he followed Josh to Denver.

If he was a fat lazy slug like you suggest, he wouldn't have lasted til the end of his contract. Anyone who knows how the Pats operate will tell you this.

You really cannot support an argument that LaMont Jordan has had decent numbers throughout his career. He had one good season and that's it. He's a FA that no one wants... and McDaniels was the only coach in the league willing to waste a roster slot on him last year.

baja
04-06-2010, 03:22 PM
Anyone who took this thread (or most of what's posted in it) seriously... just doesn't "get" the whole point of the thread.

I think you will see lots of teams copying Josh - hide and watch.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Brain dead much?



Oh believe me, not taking it serious. Just having more fun at your expense.

Oh, I get it. Shanahan's "Patriot experience" must have been at owning them.

baja
04-06-2010, 03:24 PM
You really cannot support an argument that LaMont Jordan has had decent numbers throughout his career. He had one good season and that's it. He's a FA that no one wants... and McDaniels was the only coach in the league willing to waste a roster slot on him last year.

Blue can you name for me the players from Shanny's 08 D that are still in the league? I'm talkin starters here not back ups like Jordan.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Blue can you name for me the players from Shanny's 08 D that are still in the league? I'm talkin starters here not back ups like Jordan.

Do I get a lollipop... or at least a Brownie button if I can?

baja
04-06-2010, 03:28 PM
Do I get a lollipop... or at least a Brownie button if I can?

You are making a case for a McD miscue with Jordan so it's a fair question.

How many starters from the 08 Denver D are even still in the league.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:35 PM
You are making a case for a McD miscue with Jordan so it's a fair question.

How many starters from the 08 Denver D are even still in the league.

RDE Elvis Dumervil
RLB D.J. Williams
LCB Champ Bailey
RCB Dre Bly

If the point you're trying to make is that the 08 Denver defense didn't have much talent and sucked.... well, you're preaching to the choir on this one.

HAT
04-06-2010, 03:36 PM
But will he waste a roster slot on the fat lazy slug LaMont Jordan? I rather doubt it. :P

Maybe he learned his lesson with Travis Henry?

s0phr0syne
04-06-2010, 03:37 PM
Marquand Manuel is still playing in Detroit. You know you're in bad shape when he's on the roster.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:39 PM
Maybe he learned his lesson with Travis Henry?

Travis Henry was his own worst enemy. Moderately talented but way too many off-the field issues.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:42 PM
You really cannot support an argument that LaMont Jordan has had decent numbers throughout his career. He had one good season and that's it. Sure I can. The fact that bozos like you who don't know **** about football can't comprehend that isn't my problem.

I know this may come as a shock to you but in the NFL we need role players and backups, especially at running back where they have the shortest shelf life of any position and RBBC is becoming the norm. Just because a guy didn't put up 1000 yards and 10+ touchdowns every season doesn't mean he sucks, especially when he spent a large portion of his career as Curtis Martin's backup.

He's a FA that no one wants... He's an old running back who has suffered from injury problems. Just because he can't beat father time doesn't diminish his value.

and McDaniels was the only coach in the league willing to waste a roster slot on him last year. You trotted this argument out before and we blew you out of the water, so why do you do it again?

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 03:44 PM
Marquand Manuel is still playing in Detroit. You know you're in bad shape when he's on the roster.

He's a backup, where he belongs.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 03:49 PM
Sure I can. The fact that bozos like you who don't know **** about football can't comprehend that isn't my problems.

I know this may come as a shock to you but in the NFL we need role players and backups, especially at running back where they have the shortest shelf life of any position and RBBC is becoming the norm. Just because a guy didn't put up 1000 yards and 10+ touchdowns every season doesn't mean he sucks, especially when he spent a large portion of his career as Curtis Martin's backup.

He's an old running back who has suffered from injury problems. Just because he can't beat father time doesn't diminish his value.

You trotted this argument out before and we blew you out of the water, so why do you do it again?

Um... I haven't been "blown out of the water"... (fyi)

I said Jordan was a waste of a roster slot last year and I was right. Furthermore, for your argument to be valid, you'd have to lump Josh McDaniels into the category of "bozos who don't know **** about football" seeing as how he released Jordan to free agency. Which means McDaniels agrees with me that Jordan isn't worth keeping on the roster.

crush17
04-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Jordan was brought in to help teach the other offensive players what McDaniels expects and wants on the field, as well as help with the playbook. There is absolutely nothing wrong with bringing in a guy like that to help the other players at that position learn what the new coach expects and help with terminology.

He wasn't a good performer, but I can guarantee you that he helped the other memebers of the offense a great deal.

baja
04-06-2010, 04:00 PM
RDE Elvis Dumervil
RLB D.J. Williams
LCB Champ Bailey
RCB Dre Bly

If the point you're trying to make is that the 08 Denver defense didn't have much talent and sucked.... well, you're preaching to the choir on this one.

So if you can trash McD for signing a 3rd string RB that knew his system to a contract

Than according to that standard what do you say about Mike's D in 08 and how that reflects on Mike. I'd like to read you take on the competence of Shanny as per your standards.

baja
04-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Um... I haven't been "blown out of the water"... (fyi)

I said Jordan was a waste of a roster slot last year and I was right. Furthermore, for your argument to be valid, you'd have to lump Josh McDaniels into the category of "bozos who don't know **** about football" seeing as how he released Jordan to free agency. Which means McDaniels agrees with me that Jordan isn't worth keeping on the roster.

Come on Blue you know better that this.

Jordan served a purpose last year as a guy to help with the transition to a new system, move forward to year two the transition has taken good root so Jordan is no longer needed.

Circumstances change from year to year.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 04:09 PM
So if you can trash McD for signing a 3rd string RB that knew his system to a contract

Than according to that standard what do you say about Mike's D in 08 and how that reflects on Mike. I'd like to read you take on the competence of Shanny as per your standards.

Jordan was a waste of a roster slot, in my opinion (and apparently McD's opinion as well, since he wasn't retained).

Jordan is totally irrelevant to the '08 defense... which I already stated was subpar in both talent and performance. Slowik (and Shanahan) were justifiably fired as a direct result of the ineptitude of the '08 defense. So?

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 04:10 PM
Come on Blue you know better that this.

Jordan served a purpose last year as a guy to help with the transition to a new system, move forward to year two the transition has taken good root so Jordan is no longer needed.

Circumstances change from year to year.

Jordan wasn't needed either year, Baja.

baja
04-06-2010, 04:11 PM
Jordan was a waste of a roster slot, in my opinion (and apparently McD's opinion as well, since he wasn't retained).

Jordan is totally irrelevant to the '08 defense... which I already stated was subpar in both talent and performance. Slowik (and Shanahan) were justifiably fired as a direct result of the ineptitude of the '08 defense. So?

That's a start.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 04:14 PM
That's a start.

Um... but that's been my opinion ever since the announcement was made that Shanahan/Slowik were fired.... so nothing's changed....

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 04:15 PM
Jordan was brought in to help teach the other offensive players what McDaniels expects and wants on the field, as well as help with the playbook. There is absolutely nothing wrong with bringing in a guy like that to help the other players at that position learn what the new coach expects and help with terminology.

He wasn't a good performer, but I can guarantee you that he helped the other memebers of the offense a great deal.

What a bunch of poo. Players are not brought in to teach the playbook to anyone period. They are brought in to play. You are going to sign a player to a 2.5 million dollar contract to do the job of a F'ing assistant coach that would make 100K or less?

Caveat Lector
04-06-2010, 04:17 PM
Um... I haven't been "blown out of the water"... (fyi)

I said Jordan was a waste of a roster slot last year and I was right. Furthermore, for your argument to be valid, you'd have to lump Josh McDaniels into the category of "bozos who don't know **** about football" seeing as how he released Jordan to free agency. Which means McDaniels agrees with me that Jordan isn't worth keeping on the roster.

How many RBs did we lose to IR in '08? McDaniels had a total of 3 RBs on the roster, including Jordan (who was 3rd string) but knew the system that was being implemented. But I guess he was just a 'waste of a roster slot' because there were heaps of available RBs like Shaun Alexander and Tatum Bell that new McDs system and had juice left in the tank... ::)

broncosteven
04-06-2010, 04:19 PM
I still don't get why Shanny would want to copy a 1st time HC who didn't make the playoffs when he could copy guys like Rex Ryan or the dude who lost the SB. They both made it to the AFC Championship in their 1st years.

Why again is Shanny copying mCd?

Mr.Meanie
04-06-2010, 04:21 PM
I still don't get why Shanny would want to copy a 1st time HC who didn't make the playoffs when he could copy guys like Rex Ryan or the dude who lost the SB. They both made it to the AFC Championship in their 1st years.

Why again is Shanny copying mCd?

Good point. We need to keep this thread on topic, people.

baja
04-06-2010, 04:22 PM
I still don't get why Shanny would want to copy a 1st time HC who didn't make the playoffs when he could copy guys like Rex Ryan or the dude who lost the SB. They both made it to the AFC Championship in their 1st years.

Why again is Shanny copying mCd?

Because he is smart and knows the real deal when he sees it.

Team first - watch Shanny expound this virtue in his coming pressers.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 04:22 PM
I still don't get why Shanny would want to copy a 1st time HC who didn't make the playoffs when he could copy guys like Rex Ryan or the dude who lost the SB. They both made it to the AFC Championship in their 1st years.

Why again is Shanny copying mCd?

Duh, because McD's epic let down to finish the season 8-8 was done way better then Shanahan's epic let down to finish 8-8 during the 08 season. It's all about headlines and making history.

baja
04-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Duh, because McD's epic let down to finish the season 8-8 was done way better then Shanahan's epic let down to finish 8-8 during the 08 season. It's all about headlines and making history.

It was amazing Josh got 8 wins everything considered.

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 04:34 PM
Oh, I get it. Shanahan's "Patriot experience" must have been at owning them.

Oh no!! Didn't you get the memo? It was much more than that.

Shanny openly admitted that he was adopting some of the Patriots offensive philosophy in 08.........and who was the Pats offensive coordinator?

It was McPoopyPants.

So Shanny copying McD started early. :sunshine:

baja
04-06-2010, 04:35 PM
Oh no!! Didn't you get the memo? It was much more than that.

Shanny openly admitted that he was adopting some of the Patriots offensive philosophy in 08.........and who was the Pats offensive coordinator?

It was McPoopyPants.

So Shanny copying McD started early. :sunshine:


And people think this is a joke thread.

What more proof do you need...

TonyR
04-06-2010, 04:39 PM
The Eagles didn't want Haynesworth, but that hasn't kept the Redskins from continuing the effort to move him. Jason Reid of the Washington Post reports that the Redskins are attempting to trade Haynesworth, and that a deal could be made before the April 22 draft. Jason La Canfora of NFL.com reports that coach Mike Shanahan's initial meeting with Haynesworth "did not go well," and that Shanahan wants to "break the culture of players being too empowered at Redskins Park." (In this regard, Shanny may want to urge the guy who signs the checks to quit striking up friendships with them.)

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/06/haynesworth-trade-talk-continues-to-heat-up/


Hmm, this sounds awfully familiar...

baja
04-06-2010, 04:42 PM
The Eagles didn't want Haynesworth, but that hasn't kept the Redskins from continuing the effort to move him. Jason Reid of the Washington Post reports that the Redskins are attempting to trade Haynesworth, and that a deal could be made before the April 22 draft. Jason La Canfora of NFL.com reports that coach Mike Shanahan's initial meeting with Haynesworth "did not go well," and that Shanahan wants to "break the culture of players being too empowered at Redskins Park." (In this regard, Shanny may want to urge the guy who signs the checks to quit striking up friendships with them.)

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/06/haynesworth-trade-talk-continues-to-heat-up/


Hmm, this sounds awfully familiar...

Yep I told you his next move was to be instilling the team first concept into the locker room.

Right down the line copying Josh.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 04:43 PM
And people think this is a joke thread.

What more proof do you need...

The funniest part is those who seem to be taking it seriously... Ha!

baja
04-06-2010, 04:45 PM
The funniest part is those who seem to be taking it seriously... Ha!

Laugh as you may Blue but remember I fish with Shanny and I know what he thinks of Josh.

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Yep I told you his next move was to be instilling the team first concept into the locker room.

Right down the line copying Josh.


The evidence is compelling.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Laugh as you may Blue but remember I fish with Shanny and I know what he thinks of Josh.

Yeah, but did you guys catch any fish? That's the important question... :~ohyah!:

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 04:49 PM
Yeah, but did you guys catch any fish? That's the important question... :~ohyah!:

He landed one or two in this thread. ;D

baja
04-06-2010, 04:54 PM
Yeah, but did you guys catch any fish? That's the important question... :~ohyah!:

Shanny hooked a pretty good grouper and a sail fish but he traded away his rod for the chick sitting on my face - worked for me.

TonyR
04-06-2010, 05:00 PM
The funniest part is those who seem to be taking it seriously... Ha!

What I find funny is that this thread is also poking fun at people who slam McDaniels for many things he does but when Shanahan does some of the same things it's genius. Very Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert of you, baja, to use humor while exposing hypocrisy!

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 05:04 PM
Shanny hooked a pretty good grouper and a sail fish but he traded away his rod for the chick sitting on my face - worked for me.

I'm glad the Broncos' WR wasn't the Rod he traded. ;D

baja
04-06-2010, 05:05 PM
I'm glad the Broncos' WR wasn't the Rod he traded. ;D

ha ha me too.

Taco John
04-06-2010, 05:06 PM
One of the better troll threads we've had this very boring offseason. You folks are entertaining... :)

baja
04-06-2010, 05:10 PM
Call it what you want Taco There is ligit reasons that point to Shanny copying Josh.

broncosteven
04-06-2010, 05:29 PM
Shanny hooked a pretty good grouper and a sail fish but he traded away his rod for the chick sitting on my face - worked for me.

This is very Mock like, almost eerie.

crazyhorse
04-06-2010, 05:42 PM
I think so.

Shanny has always "borrowed" the new trends that he liked. That said he watched what his Broncos did last year and now he is willing to toss away a good 4 - 3 defense to get on the 3 -4 bandwagon.

Josh brings in someone else's starter (Orton) to run his system while he grooms someone else so Shanny runs out a steals McNabb.

Josh goes bigger on O line and watch Shanny follow suit here to.


;D

You're nuts.

baja
04-06-2010, 05:46 PM
You're nuts.

You watch Shanny start preaching team chemistry and team first goals for the skins locker room.

baja
04-06-2010, 05:47 PM
Remember you heard it here first.

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 05:52 PM
Call it what you want Taco There is ligit reasons that point to Shanny copying Josh.

Some indicators are subtle.

McD signs an overweight Lamont Jordan........ LJ

Next season, Shanny signs an overweight Larry Johnson.....LJ

Two different RBs named LJ? Coincidence? Hardly.

It's evidence that Shanny is copying McD.

There's more to come.
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/files/imagecache/feature/files/20080314_sherlock_holmes.jpg

bowtown
04-06-2010, 05:56 PM
They also have both traded for future HOF QBs this offseason. Of course, Josh did it first...

Popps
04-06-2010, 05:57 PM
No, Popps. Jordan's gone.... I'm glad he is. But I'm just having fun on this thread, as it seemed was the original intention of the OP.

*insert pic of Heath Ledger... "why so serious?"*

So, you're not buying into his theory, huh?

I thought you might be the first in line?

No?

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 06:02 PM
For a while, I thought a poll was needed. But it's obvious that the topic requires something more complex to track the Shanny/McD inter-relationship.

http://www.geoafrica.co.za/reddog/gsw/grapher/polarclassscatter.gif

Cito Pelon
04-06-2010, 06:21 PM
To: Blueflame
From: Little Richard

"Li'lchick got an RB named Daisy"
"He was all fat and lazy"
"Josh signed an RRRBBBBBBBBBBBBB named Daisy"
"Josh is just plain crazy"

I figured I'd put your blues to a tune. You're welcome.

broncosteven
04-06-2010, 07:17 PM
You're nuts.

REP, Most sane thing in this thread.

baja
04-06-2010, 07:22 PM
The way I look at is I now have two teams that I will watch Denver and Shanny's Skins.

And for sure Shanny knows Josh is among the most astute offense football minds in the game today and will, like any smart boss, copy some of his ideas. Bank it!

I think the top two best attributes one can is the ability to recognize a good idea when you hear one.

The other is the ability to think outside the box.

baja
04-06-2010, 07:23 PM
REP, Most sane thing in this thread.

I think your sister wouldn't let you have a turn with her hula hoop and you never recovered.

Taco John
04-06-2010, 08:47 PM
Call it what you want Taco There is ligit reasons that point to Shanny copying Josh.

We'd have to be complete idiots not to see it.

Taco John
04-06-2010, 08:49 PM
You watch Shanny start preaching team chemistry and team first goals for the skins locker room.

I'll bet he even starts talking about how important it is to win football games! Just like Josh!

baja
04-06-2010, 08:49 PM
Finally .....

baja
04-06-2010, 08:54 PM
Will it be out of character if Shanny has a smash mouth training camp?

Will it be out of character if Shanny cleans house of talented but problematic players.

When these two things come to pass will you admit there might be reason to believe Shanny is monitoring Josh and implementing what he finds useful.

Tombstone RJ
04-06-2010, 09:02 PM
Will it be out of character if Shanny has a smash mouth training camp?

Will it be out of character if Shanny cleans house of talented but problematic players.

When these two things come to pass will you admit there might be reason to believe Shanny is monitoring Josh and implementing what he finds useful.

It will be completely out of left field if Shanny fields a decent defense...

Taco John
04-06-2010, 09:16 PM
Will it be out of character if Shanny has a smash mouth training camp?

Will it be out of character if Shanny cleans house of talented but problematic players.

When these two things come to pass will you admit there might be reason to believe Shanny is monitoring Josh and implementing what he finds useful.

Shanahan went on a whirlwind tour of several NFL teams last year. I have no doubt that he has plans on doing a few things differently this time around. I think it's funny that you believe Shanahan is trying to copy Josh McDaniels policy for policy. It was merely amusing when I thought you were just trolling for a rise out of people. It's truly a laugh, though, that you're actually being serious.

No, I won't believe it. You're just trying to lure me into this silly ruse. You're not being serious.

baja
04-06-2010, 09:17 PM
Shanahan went on a whirlwind tour of several NFL teams last year. I have no doubt that he has plans on doing a few things differently this time around. I think it's funny that you believe Shanahan is trying to copy Josh McDaniels policy for policy. It was merely amusing when I thought you were just trolling for a rise out of people. It's truly a laugh, though, that you're actually being serious.

No, I won't believe it. You're just trying to lure me into this silly ruse. You're not being serious.

Jeez you changed you mind three times in two paragraphs.

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 09:46 PM
It will be completely out of left field if Shanny fields a decent defense...


Not if he follows McD's formula. ;D

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 09:49 PM
You're nuts.

Yeah, but Crazy was taken Ha!

baja
04-06-2010, 09:49 PM
Not if he follows McD's formula. ;D

Which he clearly is doing.

baja
04-06-2010, 09:51 PM
Yeah, but Crazy was taken Ha!

HA! Good one.

And Crazy don't be calling me nuts remember I've read your posts. ;D

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 09:52 PM
Which he clearly is doing.


Shanny just needed a rest, he now knows where to look for inspiration.

baja
04-06-2010, 09:55 PM
Shanny just needed a rest, he now knows where to look for inspiration.

Oh I know Shanny copies other coaches too but a real case can be made for the Josh connection. I mean just connect the dots.

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 10:03 PM
Oh I know Shanny copies other coaches too but a real case can be made for the Josh connection. I mean just connect the dots.

Yeah I bet you could take
3 seconds and make the connection that McD is copying off of the Pats.

HAT
04-06-2010, 10:05 PM
One of the better troll threads we've had this very boring offseason. You folks are entertaining... :)

Agreed...And that's saying something when there are 10+ a day. Any thread that can get :blueflame to back herself into a corner is a good thread by me.

Well done Baja. :pimp:

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 10:07 PM
I think so.

Shanny has always "borrowed" the new trends that he liked. That said he watched what his Broncos did last year and now he is willing to toss away a good 4 - 3 defense to get on the 3 -4 bandwagon.

Josh brings in someone else's starter (Orton) to run his system while he grooms someone else so Shanny runs out a steals McNabb.

Josh goes bigger on O line and watch Shanny follow suit here to.


;D

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

baja
04-06-2010, 10:08 PM
Every coach copies other coaches, they are all in a never ending quest for an edge, any edge. Any of you really think Shanny hasn't taken a good look at Josh McDaniels and what he has done with his old team? Shanny is a very smart man, he has his issues with ego but he does recognize a good idea or plan when he sees one and he has had his eyes opened by the young, brash, learning on the fly Josh McDaniels. You all will soon realize Josh McDaniels is an NFL trend setter and all you are seeing here is Shanahan ahead of the curve in realizing that fact.

strafen
04-06-2010, 10:09 PM
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.The sad part is that he actually believes it

ROFL!

HAT
04-06-2010, 10:11 PM
Every coach copies other coaches, they are all in a never ending quest for an edge, any edge. Any of you really think Shanny hasn't taken a good look at Josh McDaniels and what he has done with his old team? Shanny is a very smart, he has his issues with ego but he does recognize a good idea or plan when he sees one and he has had his eyes opened by the young, brash, learning on the fly Josh McDaniels. You all will soon realize Josh McDaniels is an NFL trend setter and all you are seeing here is Shanahan ahead of the curve in seeing that fact.

It's all just a theory at this point......I will become a believer when he trades an actual ham sandwich for a former first rounder. :wiggle:

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 10:12 PM
Shanny does recognize a good idea or plan when he sees one and he has had his eyes opened by the young, brash, learning on the fly Josh McDaniels.

Damn, you really are an idiot.

I've been holding off on making that judgment, but damn ...

baja
04-06-2010, 10:12 PM
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

At first glance yes it is but Shanny is no fool he knows a winning idea when he sees it.

baja
04-06-2010, 10:14 PM
Damn, you really are an idiot.

I've been holding off on making that judgment, but damn ...

You just aren't thinking it through Buff.....

HAT
04-06-2010, 10:15 PM
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Here, or life in general? The dumbest thing I've ever heard here is that Chris Simms should start.

Taco John
04-06-2010, 10:19 PM
I think the funniest one is that McD got Orton, hence Shanahan went out and got McNabb.

Simply connect the dots!

LOL

baja
04-06-2010, 10:20 PM
Here, or life in general? The dumbest thing I've ever heard here is that Chris Simms should start.


Oh SHIIT........ Talk about the perfect line.


:thanku::thanku:!Booya!:thumbsup:

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 10:21 PM
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I think you read it, but no matter.

You do recall some of your posts during your love affair with Simms? . Ha!

Baja is on to something here.........or is just on something.

Either way, it's all good.

DenverBrit
04-06-2010, 10:22 PM
Here, or life in general? The dumbest thing I've ever heard here is that Chris Simms should start.

Even better. ;D

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 10:24 PM
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
At first glance yes.

Gotta give you that, seriously ... that's a classic retort. LOL

Taco John
04-06-2010, 10:24 PM
The Chris Simms band wagon didn't fare so well...

http://www.urbandigs.com/train_wreck.jpg

baja
04-06-2010, 10:25 PM
I think the funniest one is that McD got Orton, hence Shanahan went out and got McNabb.

Simply connect the dots!

LOL

They are both proven winners and both are very smart, able to pick up a new system quick as any. Yes there are major similarities between the two, they are both near perfect (when you consider the limited talent pool available) to take over a deeply rebuilding franchise.

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 10:25 PM
The dumbest thing I've ever heard here is that Chris Simms should start.

Got me there .... okay, a tie ;D

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 10:27 PM
Agreed...And that's saying something when there are 10+ a day. Any thread that can get :blueflame to back herself into a corner is a good thread by me.

Well done Baja. :pimp:

A prerequisite to believing that I "backed myself into a corner"... would be a belief that I "had no idea whatsoever" that FB and others would come frothing at the mouth to defend LaMont Jordan the moment I hit "submit reply" on Post #64. In actuality, I played along with Baja and they danced to the tune; me fully knowing they would.

Taco John
04-06-2010, 10:29 PM
They are both proven winners and both are very smart, able to pick up a new system quick as any. Yes there are major similarities between the two, they are both near perfect to take over a deeply rebuilding franchise.

Ha!

I appreciate the effort you've putting in here Baja. This is about the boringest offseason I can remember in all of my years of discussion forums, even pre-Mane. This CBA thing is the pits.

baja
04-06-2010, 10:33 PM
Ha!

I appreciate the effort you've putting in here Baja. This is about the boringest offseason I can remember in all of my years of discussion forums, even pre-Mane. This CBA thing is the pits.


Orton - Smart ck. winner ck. leader ck. coachable ck. good game manager ck.



McNabb - Smart ck. winner ck. leader ck. coachable ck. good game manager ck.

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 10:38 PM
You just aren't thinking it through Buff.....

If you had said Shanahan might want to "copy" what Josh did as Pats' coordinator, then maybe. But just maybe.


But the nuttiest part was, "Josh brings in someone else's starter."

Dude, Josh didn't "bring in" anybody .... Josh wanted Jay, remember? But Jay "quit," remember?

Taco John
04-06-2010, 10:43 PM
Orton - Smart ck. winner ck. leader ck. coachable ck. good game manager ck.



McNabb - Smart ck. winner ck. leader ck. coachable ck. good game manager ck.


Hey, I know what you mean. Hardly anyone can think about Orton without secretly thinking "The White McNabb."

baja
04-06-2010, 10:45 PM
If you had said Shanahan might want to "copy" what Josh did as Pats' coordinator, then maybe. But just maybe.


But the nuttiest part was, "Josh brings in someone else's starter."

Dude, Josh didn't "bring in" anybody .... Josh wanted Jay, remember? But Jay "quit," remember?

No Buff. Bowlen got pissed and told X & McD to trade him, up until that time Josh was trying to make it work. Towards the end he probably was on board with Bowlen's dictate but he wanted to work it out up until the very end of the saga when it became clear Cutler was not gonna work out.

HAT
04-06-2010, 10:47 PM
A prerequisite to believing that I "backed myself into a corner"... would be.... (blah, blah, blah)

Wrong again. I require no such prerequisite.

You claimed an RB with a career 4.2 ypc "sucks". You are beyond help.

If I get really bored at work tomorrow, maybe I will explain this to you.

baja
04-06-2010, 10:49 PM
Hey, I know what you mean. Hardly anyone can think about Orton without secretly thinking "The White McNabb."

Sure their skill set is different but they are growing toward each other in that department.

It is in their other qualities that they are similar like the ones I listed.

Skill set aside the are the same prototype emergency replacement QB in a complete rebuild that you look for when you absolutely need one.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 10:55 PM
Wrong again. I require no such prerequisite.

You claimed an RB with a career 4.2 ypc "sucks". You are beyond help.

If I get really bored at work tomorrow, maybe I will explain this to you.

You don't need to "explain anything" to me, HAT. 'Cause I don't care. And that's the point. Jordan's not a Bronco; no one else seems to want him; he's probably gonna retire.

But I'm not stupid or obtuse; I have already noticed that the slightest diss of LaMont Jordan brings a.... "very spirited"... defense (it's happened over and over and over again). So if I get bored, all I have to do is toss out a LaMont Jordan insult (and this "fun" thread was perfect for it) and watch the entertainment.

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 11:01 PM
Hardly anyone can think about Orton without secretly thinking "The White McNabb."

Ba-ZING! ... :~ohyah!:

strafen
04-06-2010, 11:08 PM
You don't need to "explain anything" to me, HAT. 'Cause I don't care. And that's the point. Jordan's not a Bronco; no one else seems to want him; he's probably gonna retire.

But I'm not stupid or obtuse; I have already noticed that the slightest diss of LaMont Jordan brings a.... "very spirited"... defense (it's happened over and over and over again). So if I get bored, all I have to do is toss out a LaMont Jordan insult (and this "fun" thread was perfect for it) and watch the entertainment.

Yeah, Kyle Orton and LaMont Jordan are the standards by which the broncos measure QB's and RB's excellence.
What ever happened to the high standards we Broncos fans used to have?

baja
04-06-2010, 11:08 PM
Hey, I know what you mean. Hardly anyone can think about Orton without secretly thinking "The White McNabb."

Why would that be a secret?

DBroncos4life
04-06-2010, 11:10 PM
Wrong again. I require no such prerequisite.

You claimed an RB with a career 4.2 ypc "sucks". You are beyond help.

If I get really bored at work tomorrow, maybe I will explain this to you.

Tatum Bell must be all world in your book with his 4.9 career YPC then. Jordan has broke 500 yards twice in his nine year career. Hell five times during Jordan's career he failed to rush for over 3.8 YPC for the season. Six times during his NFL career he failed to carry the ball more then 95 times during the season. In fact only one year was Jordan ever worth a crap and that was in 2005. He had 1025 yards and 9 TD's and that was good for 15th in the NFL. Denver damn near had 1000 yard backs that season.

I don't know what you think Jordan is but if anything he isn't more then a scoatch over terrible in your book then you put way to much credit into mediocre RB's.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 11:14 PM
Jordan was brought in to help teach the other offensive players what McDaniels expects and wants on the field, as well as help with the playbook. There is absolutely nothing wrong with bringing in a guy like that to help the other players at that position learn what the new coach expects and help with terminology.

He wasn't a good performer, but I can guarantee you that he helped the other memebers of the offense a great deal.

I found this post particularly amusing. Hilarious!

strafen
04-06-2010, 11:16 PM
Tatum Bell must be all world in your book with his 4.9 career YPC then. Jordan has broke 500 yards twice in his nine year career. Hell five times during Jordan's career he failed to rush for over 3.8 YPC for the season. Six times during his NFL career he failed to carry the ball more then 95 times during the season. In fact only one year was Jordan ever worth a crap and that was in 2005. He had 1025 yards and 9 TD's and that was good for 15th in the NFL. Denver damn near had 1000 yard backs that season.

I don't know what you think Jordan is but if anything he isn't more then a scoatch over terrible in your book then you put way to much credit into mediocre RB's.He's just defending McDaniels. He can give a rat's ass about Jordan. It's the fact McDaniels brought him in here, therefore the guy must've been a phenom. He just doesn't want to admit Jordan was one of Mcd mistakes of last season...

strafen
04-06-2010, 11:17 PM
Jordan was brought in to help teach the other offensive players what McDaniels expects and wants on the field, as well as help with the playbook. There is absolutely nothing wrong with bringing in a guy like that to help the other players at that position learn what the new coach expects and help with terminology.

He wasn't a good performer, but I can guarantee you that he helped the other memebers of the offense a great deal.

That's hilarious... :rofl:

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 11:22 PM
Why would that be a secret?

Because if anyone ever DID think that, they wouldn't want anyone to find out.

HAT
04-06-2010, 11:23 PM
I don't know what you think Jordan is but if anything he isn't more then a scoatch over terrible in your book then you put way to much credit into mediocre RB's.

A 3rd string RB at the end of his career who caught on with a coach who he was familiar with & vice versa.

baja
04-06-2010, 11:24 PM
Because if anyone ever DID think that, they wouldn't want anyone to find out.

Why, do you think people would think that is racist?

HAT
04-06-2010, 11:28 PM
Why, do you think people would think that is racist?

My buddy is a huge Syracuse & Eagles fan and he told me several times last season that Eagles fan had taken to calling McNabbahan "The Black Orton".

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 11:29 PM
Why, do you think people would think that is racist?

No, but people would think it's foolish.

It's just a common sense talent evaluation ... McNabb vs. Orton.

baja
04-06-2010, 11:29 PM
My buddy is a huge Syracuse & Eagles fan and he told me several times last season that Eagles fan had taken to calling McNabbahan "The Black Orton".

It's all coming to light now.

baja
04-06-2010, 11:32 PM
No, just a common sense talent evaluation.


Yes but in this case we are not comparing their talent (although not that far apart), it is another group of similarities that we have been compiling.

HAT
04-06-2010, 11:33 PM
It's all coming to light now.

Next time you see Mike around town, ask him if he will force McNabb to grow a neckbeard.

Someone needs to start a fake "King Mcnabbahan" twitter account. !Booya!

baja
04-06-2010, 11:34 PM
McNabbahan - gotta love it. ;D

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 11:37 PM
You don't need to "explain anything" to me, HAT. 'Cause I don't care. Yep. You lack even the most rudimentary football knowledge and when just about everyone on this forum has told you how backwards you are, you stick your fingers in your ears and go "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

If you want to continue having crappy football takes, that's your business...just don't be surprised when you're constantly getting schooled because of it.

And that's the point. Jordan's not a Bronco And yet you still piss and moan about him.

But I'm not stupid or obtuse Stupid? I wouldn't say that.

Lacking football knowledge? Very much so, perhaps even blissfully.

Harbor a bias that removes any ability for you to be objective? Even you seem to admit this.

I found this post particularly amusing. Hilarious!

Of course you would. He was 100% spot on in his assessment so of course that wouldn't make sense to you.

He just doesn't want to admit Jordan was one of Mcd mistakes of last season... How was Jordan a mistake?

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 11:42 PM
Yes but in this case we are not comparing their talent (although not that far apart), it is another group of similarities that we have been compiling.

"Not that far apart?" What color is the sky in your world, baja? did that quake scramble your brains? (j/k)

In eleven years, McNabb almost single-handedly took the Eagles to 5 conference championship games and a Super Bowl. 33,000 yards passing and another 3000 running the ball solo, 216 TD throws against only 100 picks, all with second rate wideouts and absolutely no conventional running game.

If there's anyone to compare him to, it's John Elway. Donovan McNabb is a poor man's John Elway. Taking modestly-talented offenses deep into the playoffs, but never winning the big one ...... yet.

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 11:44 PM
Yep. You lack even the most rudimentary football knowledge and when just about everyone on this forum has told you how backwards you are, you stick your fingers in your ears and go "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

If you want to continue having crappy football takes, that's your business...just don't be surprised when you're constantly getting schooled because of it.

And yet you still piss and moan about him.

Stupid? I wouldn't say that.

Lacking football knowledge? Very much so, perhaps even blissfully.

Harbor a bias that removes any ability for you to be objective? Even you seem to admit this.



Of course you would. He was 100% spot on in his assessment so of course that wouldn't make sense to you.

How was Jordan a mistake?

:spit: You guys are nothing if not predictable. Now I'm left wondering just how many times it (mild insult to Jordan) will work (to evoke the instantaneous, overly-impassioned defense of a below-average FA RB).


I don't think we have a "fishing" smiley.... ;)

baja
04-06-2010, 11:46 PM
"Not that far apart?" What color is the sky in your world, baja? did that quake scramble your brains? (j/k)

In eleven years, McNabb almost single-handedly took the Eagles to 5 conference championship games and a Super Bowl. 33,000 yards passing and another 3000 running the ball solo, 216 TD throws against only 100 picks, all with second rate wideouts and absolutely no conventional running game.

If there's anyone to compare him to, it's John Elway. Donovan McNabb is a poor man's John Elway. Taking modestly-talented offenses deep into the playoffs, but never winning the big one ...... yet.

The point is Shanny saw what Josh did with orton and decided to get McNabb.

strafen
04-06-2010, 11:50 PM
I can't ****ing believe these nimrods are defending Lamont Jordan!
WTF?!!!!!!
Are you freakin' kidding me?! :D

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 11:50 PM
You just said their talent levels were "not that far apart."

That's what I was referring to.

BroncoBuff
04-06-2010, 11:53 PM
Harbor a bias that removes any ability for you to be objective?

Pot? Meet kettle.

Boy? Meet girl.

What's next, Mr. Bias .... gonna dip her pigtails in the ink well?

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 11:54 PM
:spit: You guys are nothing if not predictable. Now I'm left wondering just how many times it (mild insult to Jordan) will work (to evoke the instantaneous, overly-impassioned defense of a below-average FA RB).


I don't think we have a "fishing" smiley.... ;)

Yeah, I'm well aware it's a game to you. Sorry, but you didn't bait anyone.

You kinda remind me of this kid I knew in junior high. Seemingly once a month, he would pick a fight with one of the toughest kids in school. They'd beat him to a pulp, he'd try to laugh at himself and the cycle repeated.

He did this despite the fact that he knew and admitted that he was flat out over-matched. No one could ever figure out why he got such enjoyment out getting his ass kicked. Perhaps you could tell me, since you're doing the message board equivalent of the same thing?

Either way, if you keep trotting out the same stances you'll keep getting slammed for them. If it's all just a game to you, that's fine too.

Just don't delude yourself into thinking you've actually outsmarted anyone.

Thus endeth the sermon.

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 11:55 PM
I can't ****ing believe these nimrods are defending Lamont Jordan!
WTF?!!!!!!
Are you freakin' kidding me?! :D

You didn't answer my question.

Pot? Meet kettle.

What bias do I have?

Blueflame
04-06-2010, 11:57 PM
Yeah, I'm well aware it's a game to you. Sorry, but you didn't bait anyone.

You kinda remind me of this kid I knew in junior high. Seemingly once a month, he would pick a fight with one of the toughest kids in school. They'd beat him to a pulp, he'd try to laugh at himself and the cycle repeated.

He did this despite the fact that he knew and admitted that he was flat out over-matched. No one could ever figure out why he got such enjoyment out getting his ass kicked. Perhaps you could tell me, since you're doing the message board equivalent of the same thing?

Either way, if you keep trotting out the same stances you'll keep getting slammed for them. If it's all just a game to you, that's fine too.

Just don't delude yourself into thinking you've actually outsmarted anyone.

Thus endeth the sermon.

Uh-huh. I'm the fiddler who's figured out that you'll always "dance" when a certain note is played, FB.... (actually the smilies should have given you just a bit of a hint today)....

Florida_Bronco
04-06-2010, 11:59 PM
Uh-huh. I'm the fiddler who's figured out that you'll always "dance" when a certain note is played, FB.... (actually the smilies should have given you just a bit of a hint today)....

Again, we're well aware. You're not outsmarting anyone. You like to play the game, and we play along.

Blueflame
04-07-2010, 12:02 AM
Again, we're well aware. You're not outsmarting anyone. You like to play the game, and we play along.

It amuses me to watch you dance and reach and strain in a vain effort to defend the acquisition of one of the least-memorable RBs to ever step onto a football field in a Broncos uniform.

Even McDaniels has "given up" on Jordan. Shouldn't you?

DBroncos4life
04-07-2010, 12:05 AM
A 3rd string RB at the end of his career who caught on with a coach who he was familiar with & vice versa.

The dude was barely ever a first string RB.

Florida_Bronco
04-07-2010, 12:09 AM
It amuses me to watch you dance and reach and strain in a vain effort to defend the acquisition of one of the least-memorable RBs to ever step onto a football field in a Broncos uniform. At this point I'm like a cat playing with a dead mouse. Your arguments have been sufficiently discredited and are dead on the kitchen floor now, but I still get a little amusement from batting you around when the fancy strikes me. Oddly enough, you enjoy it.

Even McDaniels has "given up" on Jordan. Shouldn't you? See, it's not so much about defending Jordan as it is about defending McD's philosophy on roster building, which you cannot grasp despite me and many others drawing it out for you in bright colors.

Blueflame
04-07-2010, 12:15 AM
At this point I'm like a cat playing with a dead mouse. Your arguments have been sufficiently discredited and are dead on the kitchen floor now, but I still get a little amusement from batting you around when the fancy strikes me. Oddly enough, you enjoy it.

See, it's not so much about defending Jordan as it is about defending McD's philosophy on roster building, which you cannot grasp despite me and many others drawing it out for you in bright colors.

LOL You forgot the personal attack and namecalling. That always strengthens your argument.

What's truly amusing to me is that I could not possibly care less about LaMont Jordan (he's not a Bronco... not on any NFL team, in fact, so I don't care) but your Pavlovian response to the mere mention of his name... rushing in with much sound and fury, signifying nothing... yet thinking you've "proven" something... is too funny.

It's a message board. Get over yourself. No one's opinions are very likely to be changed here. Jury's still out on McD and his philosophy on roster building and probably will be for at least two more seasons.

Florida_Bronco
04-07-2010, 12:23 AM
LOL You forgot the personal attack and namecalling. That always strengthens your argument. I call em' like I see em. Trot out ignorant takes, don't be surprised when someone calls you ignorant.

What's truly amusing to me is that I could not possibly care less about LaMont Jordan (he's not a Bronco... not on any NFL team, in fact, so I don't care) but your Pavlovian response to the mere mention of his name... rushing in with much sound and fury, signifying nothing... yet thinking you've "proven" something... is too funny.

[QUOTE]It's a message board. Get over yourself. No one's opinions are very likely to be changed here. Yeah yeah, we get it. You're perfectly content in the absurdity of your stances and no amount of fact, reasoning, or logic will change that.

I don't think being so obtuse is something to be proud of, but that's your problem.

Betcha you're German, aren't you?

Jury's still out on McD and his philosophy on roster building and probably will be for at least two more seasons. Hey look! You can come up with a football take that doesn't completely suck! Congratulations!

Blueflame
04-07-2010, 12:27 AM
I call em' like I see em. Trot out ignorant takes, don't be surprised when someone calls you ignorant.

[QUOTE]What's truly amusing to me is that I could not possibly care less about LaMont Jordan (he's not a Bronco... not on any NFL team, in fact, so I don't care) but your Pavlovian response to the mere mention of his name... rushing in with much sound and fury, signifying nothing... yet thinking you've "proven" something... is too funny.

Yeah yeah, we get it. You're perfectly content in the absurdity of your stances and no amount of fact, reasoning, or logic will change that.

I don't think being so obtuse is something to be proud of, but that's your problem.

Betcha you're German, aren't you?

Hey look! You can come up with a football take that doesn't completely suck! Congratulations!

LOL Keep dancing... :thumbsup:

And no. I'm not of German descent but I have friends who are. (see how silly it is to make personal assumptions about people you do not know?)

baja
04-07-2010, 12:29 AM
i love my thread.

baja
04-07-2010, 12:30 AM
it's a thing of beauty.

Florida_Bronco
04-07-2010, 12:36 AM
And no. I'm not of German descent but I have friends who are. (see how silly it is to make personal assumptions about people you do not know?)

Just a guess. My mom's side of the family is mostly German and they have a tendency to believe things in spite of the over whelming proof to the contrary...kinda like you.

Anyways, here is my little parting gift to you.

Enjoy. ROFL!

http://theredzonereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/brady_super_bowl_trophy1.jpg

http://artfiles.art.com/5/p/LRG/12/1248/K51T000Z/patriots-super-bowl-xxxix-champions-composite.jpg

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/3cb2fc0add9b1-53-1.jpg

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/wp-content/patriots-rams-super-bowl.jpg

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/super-bowl-ring.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Patriots_Superbowl_Trophies.jpg/200px-Patriots_Superbowl_Trophies.jpg

http://product.images.fansedge.com/35-73/35-73678-F.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2005/02/06/1107748913_0327.jpg

Blueflame
04-07-2010, 12:38 AM
Just a guess. My mom's side of the family is mostly German and they have a tendency to believe things in spite of the over whelming proof to the contrary...kinda like you.

Anyways, here is my little parting gift to you.

Enjoy. ROFL!



Betcha found those on Patriots Planet.... :P ;D

Blueflame
04-07-2010, 12:52 AM
Since it's rude to receive a gift without giving one... and this isn't Patriots Planet... I give in return:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/175836/travel_sbXXXIII_800_medium.jpg

and

http://www.hyundaisuperbowl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/SB1999.png

I like my pictures better than yours. :pfbbt:

Drek
04-07-2010, 03:05 AM
But I'm not stupid or obtuse; I have already noticed that the slightest diss of LaMont Jordan brings a.... "very spirited"... defense (it's happened over and over and over again). So if I get bored, all I have to do is toss out a LaMont Jordan insult (and this "fun" thread was perfect for it) and watch the entertainment.





I don't think we have a "fishing" smiley.... ;)

You still a mod? I'd hope not with this attitude.

But hey, thanks for finally admitting that you're a big part of why the general discourse on this place has declined over the last year plus. Congrats.

strafen
04-07-2010, 05:04 AM
Just a guess. My mom's side of the family is mostly German and they have a tendency to believe things in spite of the over whelming proof to the contrary...kinda like you.

Anyways, here is my little parting gift to you.

Enjoy. ROFL!

http://theredzonereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/brady_super_bowl_trophy1.jpg

http://artfiles.art.com/5/p/LRG/12/1248/K51T000Z/patriots-super-bowl-xxxix-champions-composite.jpg

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/3cb2fc0add9b1-53-1.jpg

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/wp-content/patriots-rams-super-bowl.jpg

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/super-bowl-ring.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Patriots_Superbowl_Trophies.jpg/200px-Patriots_Superbowl_Trophies.jpg

http://product.images.fansedge.com/35-73/35-73678-F.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/AP_Photo/2005/02/06/1107748913_0327.jpg

Wow!!!
You've got McDaniels all the way up your ass, you're now in love with New England too?
What a moron you are, silly boy!
I find your crap to be offensive, and I don't mind at all giving you some well-deserved insults.
You should be the head of the McDaniels cult, bud!

strafen
04-07-2010, 05:12 AM
How was Jordan a mistake?How was Jordan a mistake...
You've got to be ****ting me. Don't you know that?
I get it. Mcdaniels couldn't have possibly made a mistake there, right?
And this is despite Mcd having already admitted mistakes, but you're not ready to concede yet, are you?
Where's Jordan at right now?
Thought so... :thumbsup:

WolfpackGuy
04-07-2010, 05:12 AM
<img src="http://www.j-e-t-s-jets-jets-jets.com/e107_images/newspost_images/logo-patriots.jpg" width=300>

Take their "success" with a grain of salt.

TonyR
04-07-2010, 06:41 AM
McNabb - Smart ck. winner ck. leader ck. coachable ck. good game manager ck.

I have to mildly disagree here. McNabb is a top 5 QB when he's playing his best but I would never describe him as smart, as a leader, or as a good game manager. He's been questioned particularly on the latter two throughout his career.

Speaking of McNabb criticism, did anyone see what Brian Baldinger had to say?


Baldinger blasts McNabb
Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2010 4:28 PM ET

Plenty of people have had plenty to say about the Eagles' decision to trade quarterback Donovan McNabb to the team's division rivals in D.C.

Few have been as outspoken in favor of the Philly side of the equation as Brian Baldinger of NFL.com.

Said Baldinger (via Sheil Kapadia of philly.com): "The Eagles should be ecstatic. I view McNabb as a flawed player, and it was never more apparent than in the back-to-back losses to the Cowboys last season. His flaws will never go away. Now, the Eagles get at least two chances to expose the same flaws they've been covering up for 11 years. It works against the Redskins that McNabb is still in the division. Andy Reid can finally stop covering up for one of the most overrated quarterbacks in the history of the game. The Eagles will go to the playoffs. The Redskins will be watching from the golf course."

Meanwhile, and as Redskins coach Mike Shanahan happily pointed out today, smiling like a cat that is slowly digesting a fresh canary, McNabb took the Eagles to five NFC title games in his 11 seasons. Before McNabb's arrival, it had been 20 years since the Eagles had played for the privilege of going to the Super Bowl.

Whether Reid or McNabb were responsible for those successes remains to be seen. The fact that the Eagles shipped McNabb to a rival will definitely make McNabb more motivated to prove that he had at least some responsibility for the good times.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/06/baldinger-blasts-mcnabb/

baja
04-07-2010, 07:05 AM
Actually I think Orton will have a better season than McNabb.

bowtown
04-07-2010, 07:08 AM
Actually I think Orton will have a better season than McNabb.

It's not really a fair comparison though, because Orton has a much better running game behind him than McNabb will in Washington.

baja
04-07-2010, 07:13 AM
Do you really think Mike Shanahan will not find a way to come up with a running game

Drek
04-07-2010, 07:18 AM
Do you really think Mike Shanahan will not find a way to come up with a running game
He's got the absolute worst OL of his entire career. It'll be interesting to see how he works that out.

TonyR
04-07-2010, 07:19 AM
Shanny shenanigan alert. He may as well put Schefter on the payroll, if he isn't already.


Redskins, Haynesworth are suddenly playing chicken
Posted by Mike Florio on April 7, 2010 9:27 AM ET

After two days of rampant reports that the Redskins are shopping defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, the Redskins have spoken.

Sort of.

ESPN's Adam Schefter, who once authored a book with Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and who widely is believed to still have a direct pipeline to Shanahan, has broken his curious silence regarding the Haynesworth situation. Citing an unnamed "high-ranking Washington source," Schefter reports that the Redskins are not "determined" to trade Haynesworth.

But Schefter's report contains two strong clues that, in our view, represent an effort by the Redskins to get under Haynesworth's skin, possibly in the hopes of getting Haynesworth to pay back a large chunk of the $21 million he received last week in order to facilitate a trade. Specifically, Schefter's source says that "Haynesworth's name has not come up in any trade discussions since March 31," which means that on and/or before March 31, Haynesworth's name did come up in trade discussions. Which means that the Redskins are letting the world know that, indeed, they have shopped the man who was the crown jewel of the 2009 free-agency class.

More significantly, Schefter's source also said that Haynesworth "is, and will continue to be, the Redskins' starting nose tackle." Those last two words are powerful; Haynesworth has made it clear that he has no desire to play "nose tackle" in the new 3-4 defense that the Redskins are installing. Characterizing Haynesworth as a "nose tackle" surely is aimed at reminding Haynesworth that, if he stays, he'll be expected to do something he doesn't want to do.

Schefter's version comes at a time when three other NFL writers -- Jason Reid of the Washington Post, Jason La Canfora of NFL Network, and John Clayton of ESPN -- have reported unequivocally that Haynesworth remains available. Our guess is that Shanahan is using his relationship with Schefter as a way to apply the brakes to what quickly was becoming inevitable, and in turn to squeeze Haynesworth into coughing up some of that large pile of cash he received last week, if he wants to avoid playing "nose tackle" in the Redskins' 3-4 defense.

Finally, we're compelled to point out once again a clear conflict between two ESPN reporters. It's quickly becoming a trend, and the editors need to do a better job of harmonizing these reports -- or of acknowledging that one of the two reporters necessarily is wrong.

In this case, someone definitely is. Said Clayton on April 5: "What is clear is that the Redskins are willing to part with Haynesworth, according to multiple sources."

Bottom line? We think that Reid, La Canfora, and Clayton are right -- and that Schefter's report in a roundabout way confirms that fact.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/07/redskins-haynesworth-are-suddenly-playing-chicken/

bowtown
04-07-2010, 07:30 AM
Boy, I hope Haynsworth doens't put his house up for sale, demand a trade, and have his dad turn in his playbook.