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brother love
03-24-2010, 05:07 PM
They said it could be done as soon as today. It would be for the 33rd pick overall and O.J. Atogwe.

Broncoman13
03-24-2010, 05:10 PM
Decent deal for both teams and really remakes the draft... Could very well mean that the Rams aren't sold on Sam Bradford. Could also mean they are looking for a stop gap for a year or two while waiting on Sam Bradford. Sucks for McNabb, this is probably a worst case scenario for him. Other than Avery, they don't have anybody worth a crap to throw to.

PRBronco
03-24-2010, 05:11 PM
Brb wikipediaing!

Seriously though, that's an awful trade for the Rams, way to build for the future.

Doggcow
03-24-2010, 05:14 PM
Now I'd really like that 6 pick to snag Bradford...

Mr.Meanie
03-24-2010, 05:15 PM
I doubt McNabb will want to go to the Rams. He wants to play for a contender. He may refuse to sign a long term deal

bronco militia
03-24-2010, 05:30 PM
if mcnabb gets traded for a 2nd rounder, the broncos will never get a first rounder for B-Marsh

Chris
03-24-2010, 05:31 PM
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HEAV
03-24-2010, 05:34 PM
Rams GM Billy Devaney shot down reports that his club might acquire Donovan McNabb Wednesday, calling the rumors "absolutely false."

"Nothing to it," another high-ranking Rams official informed Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "It’s utterly ridiculous," Devaney added. "I haven’t talked to Philadelphia about any of their players." "They may have a trade offer, but not from us," yet a third Rams source said. "Why would we trade for McNabb and then go watch (Sam) Bradford throw on Monday?"
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Deal could happen...but damn I'd feel bad for McNabb if he was sent to rot in St-Loius

Doggcow
03-24-2010, 05:35 PM
if mcnabb gets traded for a 2nd rounder, the broncos will never get a first rounder for B-Marsh

Why? I think that would solidify him as a first rounder. McNabb is done, an OK leader, but not a prime player at the position anymore. Contrary to Marshall who is an elite talent, young, with tons of potential.

bronco militia
03-24-2010, 05:41 PM
nevermind

Rams GM Billy Devaney on McNabb trade rumors: "Absolutely false," and "utterly ridiculous."

about 1 hours ago via UberTwitter

http://twitter.com/miklasz/statuses/11002128949

Rabb
03-24-2010, 05:43 PM
if mcnabb gets traded for a 2nd rounder, the broncos will never get a first rounder for B-Marsh

a QB's value and that of a WR have nothing to do with one another

not to mention, Brandon has a purty tender waiting for him

NFLBRONCO
03-24-2010, 09:51 PM
if mcnabb gets traded for a 2nd rounder, the broncos will never get a first rounder for B-Marsh

I think its going to end up being a player and a pick for BM no #1 unless another team joins the party which they aren't.

bronco militia
03-24-2010, 09:54 PM
a QB's value and that of a WR have nothing to do with one another

not to mention, Brandon has a purty tender waiting for him

well yeah...IMO, Mcnabb is at least worth a mid to late #1, bm is probaly not

Hamrob
03-24-2010, 10:35 PM
We'll get at least a number 1...but, it's not going to happen until draft day or just prior to it.

Look, there's no speed demon WR's in the draft. There are however, big freakish WR's such as Bryant, Thomas, Benn etc.

Any HC/GM willing to spend their #1 on one of those three guys instead of Brandon Marshall ought to be fired on the spot. Those guys have just as much baggage as does BM and they're unproven.

How many guys in the NFL can sport 3 straight 100yd seasons?

Yes, BM will require a big contract. So will a guy like Bryant being a first round pick.

McDaniels won't just give BM away. Watch.

Hamrob
03-24-2010, 10:37 PM
well yeah...IMO, Mcnabb is at least worth a mid to late #1, bm is probaly notYou don't give #1 draft picks away on guys who will be playing 3 more years tops.

WR's who have 7-8 quality years left...that's a different story all together.

Archer81
03-24-2010, 10:37 PM
if mcnabb gets traded for a 2nd rounder, the broncos will never get a first rounder for B-Marsh


All part of the plan. You see, McDaniels is diabolical...he places a tender on a player he knows is not worth the compensation asked for. Said player returns to Denver, ego a little bruised, but more willing to stick around...

McDaniels is a mad genius...


:Broncos:

bronco militia
03-24-2010, 11:09 PM
All part of the plan. You see, McDaniels is diabolical...he places a tender on a player he knows is not worth the compensation asked for. Said player returns to Denver, ego a little bruised, but more willing to stick around...

McDaniels is a mad genius...


:Broncos:

I don't blame mcdaniels for the high tender. I hope they resign him. But as far as his value goes, he damaged goods when you figure in his off the field history. I'll be stunned if the broncos get a first round offer for BM.

on the other hand, I trade a mid to late first rounder for 3 years of mcnabb. I'm not satisified with our QB situation.

ZONA
03-24-2010, 11:55 PM
if mcnabb gets traded for a 2nd rounder, the broncos will never get a first rounder for B-Marsh

Yeah, because one guy is on his way out of the league and one is just hitting his prime. Weak take bud.

cousinal11
03-25-2010, 06:13 AM
"Any HC/GM willing to spend their #1 on one of those three guys instead of Brandon Marshall ought to be fired on the spot. Those guys have just as much baggage as does BM and they're unproven."


How exactly?

bronco militia
03-25-2010, 07:45 AM
Yeah, because one guy is on his way out of the league and one is just hitting his prime. Weak take bud.

just my opnion. don't take it personaly.

I wonder if the broncos will negotiate after April 17

supermanhr9
03-25-2010, 08:11 AM
STL needs to make this happen if there is any real chance it it actually being true. However I would try and make it for their 3rd rounder and Atogwe. Then you go out and draft Suh, and right away, your team is capable of 5 wins minimum. People don't realize how close STL was last year to actually having a 4 or 5 win season last year. They lost a lot of close games. Games that if they had a QB that could actually make a play they would have won easily. Instead they were dealing with a destroyed Marc Bulger and a very below average Kyle Boller. Put McNabb in there and they wouldn't even have the #1 pick this year.

oubronco
03-25-2010, 08:19 AM
"Any HC/GM willing to spend their #1 on one of those three guys instead of Brandon Marshall ought to be fired on the spot. Those guys have just as much baggage as does BM and they're unproven."


How exactly?

research is your best friend

TonyR
03-25-2010, 08:25 AM
STL needs to make this happen if there is any real chance it it actually being true. However I would try and make it for their 3rd rounder and Atogwe. Then you go out and draft Suh, and right away, your team is capable of 5 wins minimum.

I agree completely. This is a deal that is good for both teams which means it will probably never happen. Good for the Rams because it allows them to take BPA (Suh or McCoy) instead of gambling on a QB. Good for the Eagles because it allows them to move on with Kolb while getting good value for McNabb. This trade should happen but probably won't.

Peoples Champ
03-25-2010, 08:31 AM
I agree completely. This is a deal that is good for both teams which means it will probably never happen. Good for the Rams because it allows them to take BPA (Suh or McCoy) instead of gambling on a QB. Good for the Eagles because it allows them to move on with Kolb while getting good value for McNabb. This trade should happen but probably won't.



Ya, if this Sue is as good as a NT as everyone says he is, him and McNabb instantly make this team better, then draft a QB in next years draft, or even in 2 years.

supermanhr9
03-25-2010, 10:13 AM
Go after Locker next year or something. Peoples Champ, I think we are destined to be an NFL GM one day.

cousinal11
03-25-2010, 10:23 AM
research is your best friend

Oct. 31, 2004: During his junior year at the University of Central Florida, Brandon Marshall faced misdemeanor charges of trespass, resisting arrest without violence, disorderly conduct, refusal to obey and assault on a police officer after an argument with an off-duty Florida Highway Patrol officer turned heated at an Orlando Denny's restaurant. According to the off-duty officer, Marshall, who'd been asked to leave the restaurant for creating a disturbance, accused the officer and the restaurant manager of being "racist," threatened to sue Denny's and the Florida Highway Patrol and said he was "a star and a well-known athlete." Marshall screamed profanities and locked his fists as if he were preparing to strike the officer, according to the report. The charges were later dismissed.


April 8, 2005: Marshall was charged with retail theft, a misdemeanor, after trying to return a stolen set of bed sheets, valued at $19.99, to a Burlington Coat Factory, according to a police report of the incident. The charge was later dropped.


April 2006: Marshall was drafted by the Broncos in the fourth round of the NFL draft, No. 119 overall.



June 17, 2006: Conflicting police reports from Marshall and Rasheedah Watley were filed with the Orange County, Fla., Sheriff's Department. Marshall told police that Watley became violent after seeing him earlier that evening as the object of another woman's affection. Marshall described Watley to police as an old family friend and told police that Watley punched him and scratched his chest after an argument inside the couple's Orlando apartment spiraled out of control. Watley, who filed a police report by phone from Atlanta three days after the incident, told Florida police that Marshall was the aggressor, and that he slapped her in the face, grabbed her by the arms and pushed her to the ground, and that Marshall's sister, London, who was also present during the fight, cut Watley above her eye by throwing a cell phone or remote control at her face. No charges were ever filed.


Dec. 31, 2006: Marshall and several Broncos teammates were present at "The Shelter," a nightclub in Denver's LoDo section, as part of a birthday celebration for Denver Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin. Former Broncos wide receiver Javon Walker later told HBO's "Real Sports" that an argument broke out at the club when Marshall and his cousin sprayed champagne on another club patron and his friend. The men, who argued with Marshall and his cousin, were then asked to leave the club, Walker told HBO. Walker admitted he didn't see the encounter. According to media reports, around closing time, Marshall and his cousin were seen on the sidewalk outside the club arguing with the patrons who had been ejected from the club earlier that night. Walker told HBO that he believes the argument contributed to a drive-by shooting a short time later that killed Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams.


Jan. 24, 2007: Police responded to a parking lot outside an Orlando bowling alley where Marshall and his father had a heated argument. According to a police report of the incident, Frederick Marshall said his son took out a handgun and fired one shot at him after the two men argued. Frederick Marshall, who refused to sign a sworn statement or press charges, said his son left the area after firing the handgun. Several witnesses said they never heard gunshots, according to the police report. While officers spoke with Frederick Marshall that evening, Brandon Marshall returned to the parking lot and provided his own statement. Brandon Marshall told police that his father had asked him for money earlier that night and that when he said "no," Frederick Marshall left the bowling alley in anger, broke a beer bottle on Brandon Marshall's vehicle and then tried to run down Brandon Marshall with his car, forcing him to jump between two vehicles in the parking lot to avoid getting hit, according to the report. Frederick Marshall also threatened to "ruin professional football career," according to the police report. Brandon Marshall also declined to press charges.


March 18, 2007: Atlanta police responded to a domestic dispute call at the Westin Peachtree hotel. Watley told officers that after meeting Marshall at the hotel that night, he became enraged after he went through her cell phone call list and noticed she'd been speaking with an ex-boyfriend. Watley told police Marshall hit her repeatedly with a closed fist. While she refused medical attention, police noticed a large, dark-colored bruise on Watley's chin. Police reported seeing Marshall in the lobby of a neighboring hotel but, according to the report, Marshall left and was not arrested. Police advised Watley to take out a warrant for Marshall's arrest, but Watley never did. No charges were ever filed.


March 21, 2007: Watley filed a report with police in Boca Raton, Fla. Watley and Marshall, who were staying in south Florida with Marshall's uncle, told police that an argument started that night at a local restaurant after Marshall refused to ask Watley to marry him. According to a police report, while Watley was walking home, Marshall grabbed a large pipe from a construction site and hit the ground with it in frustration. Nobody was hurt. Police characterized the incident as a verbal domestic dispute. No charges were filed.


March 26, 2007: Police in Douglas County, Colo., arrested Marshall for false imprisonment and domestic violence. Watley told "Outside the Lines" she was assaulted by Marshall a day earlier at Marshall's suburban Denver home -- she never reported that incident to police -- and that she was attempting to fly back to Atlanta to get away from Marshall. Watley told police she and Marshall argued at the Denver airport and that she later agreed to return to Marshall's home. Watley told police when she attempted to leave Marshall's home a second time, Marshall followed her taxi and, at one point, blocked its path with his Dodge Charger, leapt from his car and punched the taxi cab's windows. When contacted by "Outside the Lines," the cab driver confirmed Watley's version of events. Marshall denied punching the taxi cab's windows and later told police he was only trying to retrieve his cell phone, which he said Watley had taken from him.


May 25, 2007: Charges against Marshall relating to his arrest in Douglas County, Colo., were dismissed after he successfully completed anger management classes.




June 8, 2007: Police responded to Marshall and Watley's Atlanta condo at 5 a.m. and found Watley with a noticeable cut on her right thigh. Watley initially told officers that she accidentally cut herself with a kitchen knife. Watley told the first officer to arrive that while she had argued with Marshall earlier that evening, no physical abuse occurred. Marshall was not present. Roughly an hour later, at 6:07 a.m., police were dispatched to the condo a second time. On this second visit Watley told police that Marshall did indeed cut her thigh with a kitchen knife during a fight earlier that evening and that he later returned to the condo and continued to assault Watley by punching her in the forehead. Watley's friend, Kristeena Spivey, told police that while she was attempting to drive Watley from the condo complex, she noticed Marshall attempting to leave the scene. Spivey, who called 911 to make officers aware of Marshall's whereabouts, said when she attempted to block Marshall's exit from the parking lot with her vehicle, Marshall rammed her car with his Cadillac Escalade and then left his SUV and threw a large rock at the passenger side of Spivey's car. Marshall fled the scene before police arrived, according to Spivey and Watley. Watley was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital for treatment. No charges were ever filed.


June 30, 2007: Atlanta police responded to a fight-in-progress call at Marshall and Watley's condo. Watley told police that a fight broke out after Marshall missed a flight and blamed Watley. Watley told police Marshall struck her with a closed fist and choked her. Watley had a bruise on her left eye and noticeable scratches on her body, according to a police report of the incident. Officers made Watley aware of the procedures to obtain a restraining order. No charges were filed.


Oct. 22, 2007: Hours after defeating the Pittsburgh Steelers, Marshall was cited at 2 a.m. by Denver police for driving under the influence after he was seen driving erratically. His blood-alcohol level was 0.116 (the legal limit for DUI in Colorado is 0.08).


Jan. 18, 2008: Watley obtained a temporary protective order against Marshall in Fulton County (Ga.) Superior Court. At the time, Marshall was forbidden to come within 200 yards of Watley. Watley, through her attorneys, eventually agreed to lift the court order.


Feb. 18, 2008: Watley told "Outside the Lines" that as part of a Valentine's Day present, and in an attempt to repair their relationship, Marshall surprised her with a last-minute trip to San Juan, Puerto Rico. While on that trip, Watley said, Marshall argued with her about an ex-boyfriend. Watley said Marshall assaulted her at San Juan's Condado Plaza Hotel, hitting her in the mouth, which caused her to bleed, and choking her on the bed. A report was filed by police saying officers were called to the hotel to help hotel security escort guests from the property. The report does not mention Watley, Marshall or any details of the incident.


March 4, 2008: Police responded around 9 p.m. to a fight call at Marshall and Watley's Atlanta condo and found Marshall bleeding from his hand. Marshall initially told police that during an argument with Watley, one of Watley's sisters cut him on his hand with a knife. When asked by police who had the knife, Marshall then told officers there was no knife, and that he'd been cut on glass during a fight with Watley. Watley told police that Marshall became upset after finding text messages from an ex-boyfriend on Watley's phone. Watley had several cuts on her lips, according to a police report, and told officers that Marshall had grabbed her by the head and slapped her. While police were interviewing Watley, Marshall fled, according to a report of the incident.


March 5, 2008: Police returned to Marshall and Watley's condo around 1 a.m. Watley and her sister both told police that after the fight earlier that same evening, Marshall returned to the condo, took Watley's purse and threw her personal belongings, including clothing, off of the 20th floor balcony. Police told Watley to leave the residence, but she declined and explained that she feared Marshall would return again once officers left and damage more of her property.


March 5, 2008: Watley obtained her second temporary protective order against Marshall in Fulton County Superior Court. Marshall was once again forbidden by the court order to come within 200 yards of Watley.


May 5, 2008: Atlanta police were called once again to the condo Watley shared for more than a year with Marshall. According to a police report, Watley and Marshall's mother argued about Watley's attempt to remove items from the condo. No charges were filed.


Aug. 5, 2008: The NFL released a statement announcing that Marshall would be suspended without pay for the Broncos' first three regular-season games of 2008 for violating the NFL personal conduct policy. The statement noted that "if Marshall fully complies with required counseling and other conditions of the suspension, Commissioner Goodell will consider reducing the suspension to two games."


Aug. 28, 2008: Less than a month after the NFL released a statement announcing Marshall's suspension, the league released another statement saying Marshall's suspension had been reduced upon appeal to one game without pay plus an additional fine of one game check. An NFL spokesman told ESPN "a potential reduction in [Marshall's] initial three-game suspension was always contemplated if he complied with required counseling and other conditions of the suspension." The spokesman would not elaborate on the precise conditions Marshall met to have his suspension reduced.


Sept. 10, 2008: Marshall was charged with two misdemeanor counts of simple battery as a result of the incident the previous March (his formal bond arraignment was Nov. 3, 2008). Simple battery, according to the Fulton County District Attorney's office, is punishable by up to one year in jail and/or a $1,000 fine.


Sept. 12, 2008: Nearly a year after being cited for DUI in Denver, Marshall pleaded guilty to the lesser offense of driving while ability-impaired. He was sentenced to one year of probation.


Feb. 5, 2009: While attending a dinner party in Honolulu as part of his Pro Bowl appearance, Marshall proposed to Michi Nogami-Campbell. Marshall told the Denver Post he met Nogami-Campbell while the two attended the University of Central Florida. The engagement prompted several sports writers to praise what they characterized as Marshall's maturity.


March 1, 2009: Marshall and his fiancée, Nogami-Campbell, were seen by an off-duty Atlanta police officer arguing outside the same Atlanta condo Marshall once shared with Watley. According to a police report of the incident, the off-duty officer saw Marshall and Nogami-Campbell kicking and punching one another on the sidewalk outside the condo building. The off-duty officer said she saw Marshall grab Nogami-Campbell by the shirt and pin her up against the wall. Nogami-Campbell continued to kick and hit Marshall, the officer said. Both Marshall and Nogami-Campbell were arrested and taken to the Atlanta City Jail. They were released later that same day and charges were dismissed. In a statement to ESPN, the NFL said the incident remains "under review."


[B]Add to this the bad behavior in practice and then the week 17 fiasco.

Now show me how the 3 top WR's in this years draft class carry as much baggage as Marshall.

WolfpackGuy
03-25-2010, 10:26 AM
Jan. 24, 2007: Police responded to a parking lot outside an Orlando bowling alley where Marshall and his father had a heated argument. According to a police report of the incident, Frederick Marshall said his son took out a handgun and fired one shot at him after the two men argued. Frederick Marshall, who refused to sign a sworn statement or press charges, said his son left the area after firing the handgun. Several witnesses said they never heard gunshots, according to the police report. While officers spoke with Frederick Marshall that evening, Brandon Marshall returned to the parking lot and provided his own statement. Brandon Marshall told police that his father had asked him for money earlier that night and that when he said "no," Frederick Marshall left the bowling alley in anger, broke a beer bottle on Brandon Marshall's vehicle and then tried to run down Brandon Marshall with his car, forcing him to jump between two vehicles in the parking lot to avoid getting hit, according to the report. Frederick Marshall also threatened to "ruin [Brandon's] professional football career," according to the police report. Brandon Marshall also declined to press charges.

I'd never heard that one before.

WTF was he thinking?

Peoples Champ
03-26-2010, 01:06 PM
what happened to this Mcnabb rumor?

MOCRUSH
03-26-2010, 01:36 PM
And does anybody think Atogwe is just chopped liver???


Yeah, because one guy is on his way out of the league and one is just hitting his prime. Weak take bud.

broncswin
03-26-2010, 04:33 PM
He is going to the raiders...you can mark it down...we will see this guy twice a year, unless he gets hurt...ok he will probably get hurt, so once a year.

meangene
03-26-2010, 06:35 PM
According to NFLN, The Faid are the front-runners for McNabb. Reportedly, they are willing to make a trade without an extension of his contract. Guess they figure on franchising him next year. McNabb must be overjoyed with this prospective scenario! Hilarious!

The Moops
03-26-2010, 07:07 PM
Rams, Raiders, Bills, what did McNabb do to deserve all this?!

Hogan11
03-26-2010, 07:13 PM
Rams, Raiders, Bills, what did McNabb do to deserve all this?!

He'd be welcomed like a returning hero if he went to Buffalo....people loved him when he played @ Cuse.

gunns
03-26-2010, 09:53 PM
I don't care what happens with the Rams, I just hope that if they do take McNabb that McD doesn't have any inclination to take Bradford should he be there when we pick.

broncswin
03-27-2010, 07:07 AM
I don't care what happens with the Rams, I just hope that if they do take McNabb that McD doesn't have any inclination to take Bradford should he be there when we pick.

This...I don't think he wants him...but I would not be happy with this:pimp: