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Bronco Rob
03-16-2010, 03:01 AM
Kiszla: Broncos' intent is to win with Quinn


By Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post
Posted: 03/16/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT


When the Broncos make their next Super Bowl appearance, the starting quarterback will be Brady Quinn.

And the time for Denver to rejoin the NFL elite could be closer than we think.

So don't let the dawn of a football revival at Dove Valley catch you crying those same stale tears for Mike Shanahan, Jay Cutler and the ghosts of Broncos past.

Maybe this Josh McDaniels guy knows a little about football after all.

Let me be the first to state these truths that will soon become self-evident to doubting Broncomaniacs everywhere:

There are good reasons why Quinn is a young player McDaniels so coveted that he kept up the pursuit for a year until getting his man.

Kyle Orton will lose his job as a starter before 2010 is done.

While QBs get everybody all a Twitter, the most crucial acquisition of the McDaniels era is nose tackle Jamal Williams.

Although San Diego gunslinger Philip Rivers remains the fastest draw in the wild AFC West, Denver finally has acquired a quarterback who can give a team built on strong defense a chance to do real damage in the playoffs.

McDaniels intends to win big while 31-year-old cornerback Champ Bailey is still young enough to enjoy it.

Let the quarterback competition and controversy begin. The Broncos will be a stronger team for it.

"I'll put it this way: I think every quarterback on our roster wants to play," Quinn said Monday, fewer than 24 hours after being acquired from Cleveland in trade.

The deal cost the Broncos little more than the acknowledgment it was probably healthier for all concerned if Peyton Hillis was allowed to seek an NFL coach as gaga about his potential as the Colorado fanatics who worshiped every inch of the 397 yards gained on the ground by Hillis during his brief Denver career.

The rap against Quinn is he looks better with his uniform off than on. He's certainly sexier in a bathing suit than Jay Cutler, even if you're talking about the ripped bodybuilder rather than the Bears' pouty quarterback.

The former Notre Dame star runs better than anybody who has played QB in Denver since Jake Plummer darted out of town and tends to float deep passes more often than you would expect from inspecting Quinn's 6-foot-3, 235-pound frame.

But here's what I'm guessing McDaniels sees in Quinn: a winner.

In his final three years at Notre Dame, Quinn won 25-of-37 games for what recently has become the funniest program on NBC this side of "30 Rock."

In the three years since Quinn has been gone, the Fighting Irish have gone 16-21, despite the presence of quarterback Jimmy Clausen, who, for reasons understood only by Mel Kiper, is somehow projected as a top-10 pick in the NFL draft.

As an 18-year-old, Quinn made his first start for the Irish at Purdue, where the nationally ranked Boilermakers were led by Orton. That was way back in 2003. But the personalities and styles of the two quarterbacks haven't changed much.

Quinn chucked the football 59 times for 297 yards and four interceptions. Orton was a young game-manager in training, passing for 127 yards on 12 attempts in a Purdue victory.

Seven years later, Quinn should beat Orton when the stakes are much higher: Two quarterbacks. One NFL starting job.

Sure, experience will give Orton a distinct advantage going into training camp. But, over the course of 16 games, here's betting the talent of Quinn will win out.

It is true that Quinn has not done anything worth talking about in the NFL.

When did he get the chance, though? If the Browns weren't letting Quinn rot on the bench, they used him primarily as a scapegoat, whereas a smart franchise might have concentrated on the development of a first-round draft choice.

I asked Quinn what he has learned in three years of hard knocks as a pro.

"You've got to be flexible," he replied. "You've got to be a jack of all trades and not just a one-trick pony."

Here's the deal: The Broncos are going to win with defense. The nose tackle is what puts the mean in a 3-4 defense. If Williams can stay healthy while playing the season at age 34, then Denver can bump off San Diego for the division title.

Quinn won't make anybody forget John Elway.

But the new quarterback in town gives McDaniels the chance to think forward instead of run from the past.

Rather than being known as the impetuous coach who threw Cutler to the curb, McDaniels now can become the miracle worker who rescued Quinn from the dumpster.




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watermock
03-16-2010, 04:25 AM
This isn't a competition between Orton and Quinn, this is the NFL you idiot!

This isn't ND.

ND was 30 years ago.

Buy a clue Kiszla.

What a retard.

watermock
03-16-2010, 04:30 AM
Oh my, if we can put a defense together with 8 30+ members, we might win the division with a new QB dumped.

We have an easy schedule and an old defense.

Broncos_OTM
03-16-2010, 05:40 AM
Mock .... nevermind

RaiderH8r
03-16-2010, 06:03 AM
I love the Jamal Williams signing as much as anybody and it certainly addresses the most glaring need, among many, on the D. But Williams and his 34 year old health sheet isn't what Denver should be banking its division hopes on Kisz. Cautiously optimistic about Williams but Brady f'ing Quinn? Please.

WolfpackGuy
03-16-2010, 06:08 AM
"rescued Quinn from the dumpster"

Jesus, has it come to this in Denver?

TonyR
03-16-2010, 06:13 AM
It's funny, mock's first comment about the trade was really positive. And now his dominant personality has taken over again. His mom must have let him have too much sugar this morning...

RonDaChamp24
03-16-2010, 06:24 AM
I love the trade for Quinn. Usually Kiszla is an idiot but I agree with most of his article here. Shouldn't be banking on Jamal Williams being a 3 down player for 16 games but if we use him right in a rotation I think he will help our d immensly. I think Brady Quinn is our future and I think he'll win a lot of games for us. He'll be the starter before the 2010 season is over.

Bob's your Information Minister
03-16-2010, 06:34 AM
Wow, you would think Quinn had done something in the NFL.

Denver should draft a quarterback this year. And trade Orton.

oubronco
03-16-2010, 06:38 AM
"rescued Quinn from the dumpster"

Jesus, has it come to this in Denver?

Yes it has

broncofan7
03-16-2010, 06:46 AM
The value that we got for Hillis(and some low round picks) in Quinn makes us the winner in this trade. Whether or not Quinn can overtake Orton is not something that I feel is a certainty......no matter how pedestrian I believe Orton to be.

Ambiguous
03-16-2010, 07:38 AM
The value that we got for Hillis(and some low round picks) in Quinn makes us the winner in this trade. Whether or not Quinn can overtake Orton is not something that I feel is a certainty......no matter how pedestrian I believe Orton to be.

I don't see why anyone would be against this trade, frankly. I mean even with Quinn at backup, we are a much better team. Simms was a disaster last year, and while he didn't single handedly lose 2 games, we would have won at least one of them with Orton in for the whole game.

If Quinn can compete to be the starter, great. But even as just the backup this trade made sense.

strafen
03-16-2010, 07:47 AM
I don't see why anyone would be against this trade, frankly. I mean even with Quinn at backup, we are a much better team. Simms was a disaster last year, and while he didn't single handedly lose 2 games, we would have won at least one of them with Orton in for the whole game.

If Quinn can compete to be the starter, great. But even as just the backup this trade made sense.Quinn will not be the back-up QB.
I highly doubt McDaniels after all his attempts to get him in Denver that he's going to have Quinn warm the pine...

Hamrob
03-16-2010, 08:02 AM
I don't get all the hate for Quinn. Here's a kid who threw something like 70td's to 10 int's his Jnr/snr year of college and won a lot of games.

He goes to a dismal franchise that has no clue about developing young QB's and doesn't do much...although, he doesn't look all that bad either. It's not like he threw way more Int's than TD's and bombed. He just didn't get enough looks and played with very little talent on offense. Give me a break.

This kid is better than Clausen...hands down. Clausen may go top-5 folks. Relax, McD did good with this trade and we should be excited about it!

Mr.Meanie
03-16-2010, 08:25 AM
...the Colorado fanatics who worshiped every inch of the 397 yards gained on the ground by Hillis during his brief Denver career.


Ha!

SonOfLe-loLang
03-16-2010, 08:25 AM
Quinn will not be the back-up QB.
I highly doubt McDaniels after all his attempts to get him in Denver that he's going to have Quinn warm the pine...

Agreed, though he might be the back up this year. but obviously they made this trade thinking Quinn could be the future starter in denver. I think he can be too

Traveler
03-16-2010, 08:29 AM
That Kizla loves stirring the pot.

Chris
03-16-2010, 08:31 AM
I love the trade for Quinn. Usually Kiszla is an idiot but I agree with most of his article here. Shouldn't be banking on Jamal Williams being a 3 down player for 16 games but if we use him right in a rotation I think he will help our d immensly. I think Brady Quinn is our future and I think he'll win a lot of games for us. He'll be the starter before the 2010 season is over.

Please explain what you see in Quinn other than that he was a mishandled first rounder and a great college QB. I don't know a lot about the specifics of his game.

baja
03-16-2010, 08:59 AM
I don't get all the hate for Quinn. Here's a kid who threw something like 70td's to 10 int's his Jnr/snr year of college and won a lot of games.

He goes to a dismal franchise that has no clue about developing young QB's and doesn't do much...although, he doesn't look all that bad either. It's not like he threw way more Int's than TD's and bombed. He just didn't get enough looks and played with very little talent on offense. Give me a break.

This kid is better than Clausen...hands down. Clausen may go top-5 folks. Relax, McD did good with this trade and we should be excited about it!

Not to mention he had two head coaches and 3 OCs with three different systems during his time in Cleveland.

That was Cleveland folks we are talking about Cleveland here.

Dagmar
03-16-2010, 09:17 AM
Mock .... nevermind

http://i42.tinypic.com/2v2us6a.jpg

uplink
03-16-2010, 11:30 AM
Quinn is bait for a Cassel trade with the chefs since Frey is doing the cooking over there on offense.

Dagmar
03-16-2010, 11:32 AM
Quinn is bait for a Cassel trade with the chefs since Frey is doing the cooking over there on offense.

So McD has pursued him for 2 free agencies to get Cassel?

ROFL!

INbronco
03-16-2010, 01:10 PM
I can't believe there is already a whole posse that believe Quinn is the savior and QBOTF for Denver. McD needs a better backup QB to replace Simms; lord knows he needed to be replaced ASAP. Orton will be the starter this year and next year if he shows progress. Anyone wishing or hoping otherwise is just plain foolish; if you're hanging your hat on that better find another team to root for.

Dagmar
03-16-2010, 01:16 PM
I can't believe there is already a whole posse that believe Quinn is the savior and QBOTF for Denver. McD needs a better backup QB to replace Simms; lord knows he needed to be replaced ASAP. Orton will be the starter this year and next year if he shows progress. Anyone wishing or hoping otherwise is just plain foolish; if you're hanging your hat on that better find another team to root for.

I think people believe that through the benefits of McDaniel's good record at QB coaching he will be able to do something with a player who was put in a bad situation in Cleveland and who we believe still has a big upside.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/173898/cleveland_20browns_20suck.jpg

Blart
03-16-2010, 01:42 PM
Remember Kiszla's article about how Simms will be the starter?

Crushaholic
03-16-2010, 02:18 PM
I found this fact to be very interesting. Maybe I'm the only one who finds it interesting, but I'm weird like that...


As an 18-year-old, Quinn made his first start for the Irish at Purdue, where the nationally ranked Boilermakers were led by Orton.

OrangenBlueOhio
03-16-2010, 03:18 PM
I think mcd plans on startin him too. Really that's the only way to find out if he's any good or not. Stick him in there and let him play no matter what happens. Unlike cleveland where he didn't have enough time to develop,

kmonty
03-16-2010, 03:23 PM
Wha? Kyle Orton's backup is more athletic and mobile and has better arm strength and just needs a fresh start in a good situation?

/Tales from 2009