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HEAV
03-15-2010, 09:23 PM
by Chris Steuber of ScoutNFLNetwork.com, March 15, 2010 at 10:10pm ET



A day after the Denver Broncos traded fullback Peyton Hillis and draft picks to the Cleveland Browns for quarterback Brady Quinn, Scout.com has learned that the Broncos will conduct a private workout with Stanford running back Toby Gerhart in his hometown of Norco, California on Wednesday, March 24th.

In addition to his workout with the Broncos, Scout.com has also learned that Gerhart will work out for the New York Jets at Stanford University on Tuesday, March 30th.

The 6-foot, 231-pound Gerhart stormed onto the scene this past season after he had 343 carries for 1,871 yards and 27 touchdowns. Often compared to former Tampa Bay Buccaneers fullback Mike Alstott, the winner of the 2009 Doak Walker Award, Gerhart surprised scouts at the NFL Scouting Combine with his athleticism and straight line speed; he ran a 4.55 in the 40 and recorded a 38-inch vertical in Indianapolis.

Gerhart could come off the board as early as the mid-second round, and the worst-case scenario will have him falling into the third round. Going back to the Gerhart-Alstott comparison, Alstott was the 35th overall pick in 1996; Gerhart could end up going to the Broncos with the 45th overall selection this year.


http://arizonastate.scout.com/a.z?s=43&p=9&c=2&cid=954318&nid=4203219&fhn=1


So Hillis fans can now rejoice! We could end up with the next great white rhino

Dagmar
03-15-2010, 09:25 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/24pf8td.jpg

DBroncos4life
03-15-2010, 09:30 PM
That would be a good replacement for him. He went to Stanford so I doubt he is a ruh-tard.

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Wes Mantooth
03-15-2010, 09:33 PM
Hells yes!

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2010, 09:40 PM
Rhino...lol

Paladin
03-15-2010, 09:44 PM
He would be replacing Jordan.......

Popps
03-15-2010, 09:47 PM
Touchdown Toby!

extralife
03-15-2010, 09:48 PM
at that point we would have essentially shuffled off a second round pick for Quinn, which is a big no.

people around here always assume that a loss of a player at one position is no big deal if we then replace that person with a high draft pick--they conveniently forget that the opportunity cost of that replacement is then the pick itself, which could have been used elsewhere, were the need not created to begin with.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-15-2010, 10:16 PM
at that point we would have essentially shuffled off a second round pick for Quinn, which is a big no.

people around here always assume that a loss of a player at one position is no big deal if we then replace that person with a high draft pick--they conveniently forget that the opportunity cost of that replacement is then the pick itself, which could have been used elsewhere, were the need not created to begin with.

Youre assuming its an even replacement or a replacement to begin with. Regardless of what people here think of Peyton, the coaching staff didnt like him. So if they do draft gerhart in the third, they will see it as a major upgrade to peyton.

Natedog24
03-16-2010, 01:50 AM
Gerhart was a ton of fun to watch at Stanford, would make a great compliment back to Moreno.

watermock
03-16-2010, 02:01 AM
WTF?

A Hillis Clone?

Oh right he went to Stanford.

What's his wonderlic?

elsid13
03-16-2010, 02:42 AM
Gerhart isn't a Hillis replacement different skills sets completely. Hillis was at best a Rathman style FB in WCO scheme. Gerhart is power running back in the mode of NYG's Jacobs or Ironhead Haywood.

watermock
03-16-2010, 02:55 AM
Is that why he's 20 pounds lighter?

watermock
03-16-2010, 03:04 AM
Brandon Jacobs?

Give it a rest.

2009 New York Giants 15 15 224 835 3.7 31 5 18 184 10.2 74T 1 2 1

supermanhr9
03-16-2010, 06:06 AM
I would much rather have Gerhart than Hillis. Toby is the man

WolfpackGuy
03-16-2010, 06:11 AM
What do they need a replacement for?

Slowshon can do it all!

oubronco
03-16-2010, 06:39 AM
by Chris Steuber of ScoutNFLNetwork.com, March 15, 2010 at 10:10pm ET



A day after the Denver Broncos traded fullback Peyton Hillis and draft picks to the Cleveland Browns for quarterback Brady Quinn, Scout.com has learned that the Broncos will conduct a private workout with Stanford running back Toby Gerhart in his hometown of Norco, California on Wednesday, March 24th.

In addition to his workout with the Broncos, Scout.com has also learned that Gerhart will work out for the New York Jets at Stanford University on Tuesday, March 30th.

The 6-foot, 231-pound Gerhart stormed onto the scene this past season after he had 343 carries for 1,871 yards and 27 touchdowns. Often compared to former Tampa Bay Buccaneers fullback Mike Alstott, the winner of the 2009 Doak Walker Award, Gerhart surprised scouts at the NFL Scouting Combine with his athleticism and straight line speed; he ran a 4.55 in the 40 and recorded a 38-inch vertical in Indianapolis.

Gerhart could come off the board as early as the mid-second round, and the worst-case scenario will have him falling into the third round. Going back to the Gerhart-Alstott comparison, Alstott was the 35th overall pick in 1996; Gerhart could end up going to the Broncos with the 45th overall selection this year.


http://arizonastate.scout.com/a.z?s=43&p=9&c=2&cid=954318&nid=4203219&fhn=1


So Hillis fans can now rejoice! We could end up with the next great white rhino

Get R Done

sixtimeseight
03-16-2010, 06:44 AM
at that point we would have essentially shuffled off a second round pick for Quinn, which is a big no.

people around here always assume that a loss of a player at one position is no big deal if we then replace that person with a high draft pick--they conveniently forget that the opportunity cost of that replacement is then the pick itself, which could have been used elsewhere, were the need not created to begin with.

What is this garbage? Just because they are both white running backs (if you can even call Hillis a RB, he's more of a 3rd string fullback) doesn't mean one is a replacement for the other. I guarantee that if we draft Gebhardt, we would be giving him more than 15 touches, and I guarantee that he wouldn't fail in over a third of the touches we gave him, like Hillis did.

Gob
03-16-2010, 07:35 AM
What is this garbage? Just because they are both white running backs (if you can even call Hillis a RB, he's more of a 3rd string fullback) doesn't mean one is a replacement for the other. I guarantee that if we draft Gebhardt, we would be giving him more than 15 touches, and I guarantee that he wouldn't fail in over a third of the touches we gave him, like Hillis did.

That would be great, especially since those touches would replace Moreno touches who seems to fail half the time.

oubronco
03-16-2010, 07:45 AM
That would be great, especially since those touches would replace Moreno touches who seems to fail half the time.

So true

BroncoBuff
03-16-2010, 07:48 AM
Doesn't seem too critical to replace a guy who wasn't playing.

Hamrob
03-16-2010, 07:57 AM
I like the kid...but, what we need is speed! Moreno is a 4.7 guy and looks like he wears cement for cleats. We need a kid like spiller who can take it to the house...that's the compliment to Moreno...I'm looking for!

tsiguy96
03-16-2010, 08:01 AM
I like the kid...but, what we need is speed! Moreno is a 4.7 guy and looks like he wears cement for cleats. We need a kid like spiller who can take it to the house...that's the compliment to Moreno...I'm looking for!

i agree completely, we need a true counterpart to moreno

fontaine
03-16-2010, 08:03 AM
I don't care who's running the ball as long as we get the problems fixed up front. I lost count of how many times defenders were in the backfield or completely shutting down inside lanes.

Sure, some of it had to do with our inability to get the ball downfield and hopefully Orton can take that next step but a lot of it just came down to a piss poor interior unable to handle the power stuff in the trenches.

Kaylore
03-16-2010, 08:12 AM
http://i49.tinypic.com/24pf8td.jpg

:rofl:

Kaylore
03-16-2010, 08:15 AM
Doesn't seem too critical to replace a guy who wasn't playing.

That's scout.com's take. I think with Jordan gone and Buckhalter a little bit brittle they were going to do this anyway.

bendog
03-16-2010, 08:24 AM
Well, oddly Gerhart is more suited to the NE offensive system than moreno, which was one reason I found the pick to be a bit odd in the first place. Billicheat's two biggest yard rush guys have been Antwan Smith and a broken down Corey Dillon. It's not been a "run to daylight" type system. As for Hillis, he was pissed off and in the doghouse since Shanny got fired and he found the new coach wanted "his guys." It happens. And hillis was marginally talented as a RB anyway

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/

imagine all those games won, and sam cunningham and jim nance are still the top two rbs for that franchise.

broncocalijohn
03-16-2010, 09:26 AM
How funny of a story as if Hillis was some main ingredient for McDaniels offense. OMG! We traded our weapon of choice in the backfield. Let us put priority #1 on replacing Hillis! We need to find someone who can replace 20 touches for a season! If they got Toby, I would say he is exactly what you need in a pounder. I saw him at Stanford when he played (and destroyed) my USC Trojans.

TonyR
03-16-2010, 09:33 AM
...I know some fans might think Hillis is a valuable commodity, but his lack of blocking and production without the ball makes him very iffy to even make the Browns roster next season. Hillis might look good occasionally with the ball in his hands, but his lack of overall toughness without it has to be in question.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Diner-morning-news-Is-LT-too-old-for-the-Jets.html

cmhargrove
03-16-2010, 11:48 AM
I am almost more interested in our second round pick than the first rounder this year.

Gerhart would be awesome, but so would a new Guard, or top notch Center. I'm all for it, the dude is a stud.

DenverBroncosJM
03-16-2010, 02:29 PM
at that point we would have essentially shuffled off a second round pick for Quinn, which is a big no.

people around here always assume that a loss of a player at one position is no big deal if we then replace that person with a high draft pick--they conveniently forget that the opportunity cost of that replacement is then the pick itself, which could have been used elsewhere, were the need not created to begin with.


Good comparison I can totally see where you would think Toby and Hillis are the same caliber of player.

Bronco Yoda
03-17-2010, 01:00 AM
Too small. I want some BEEF!

bpc
03-17-2010, 02:25 AM
I won't complain about Toby in the backfield but this is funny as hell. Typical McDaniels type move.

Popps
03-17-2010, 02:29 AM
. Typical McDaniels type move.

http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/psycho-shower-curtain-2.jpg

bpc
03-17-2010, 02:50 AM
http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/psycho-shower-curtain-2.jpg

I'm not complaining too much. I think Toby's a stud. Needs to hold onto that pigskin though.

Hopefully his 245 lb frame can be effective on the kick return teams or he might sit the bench. LOL.

Sadly, Toby is probably a better NFL style back vs. Moreno.

Bronco Yoda
03-17-2010, 02:55 AM
At this point I just hope that we dial-in a Line/scheme that works with Moreno. Because we all know McD is going to be riding him this year come hell or high water. Just find a way to move the chains... that's all I'm asking.

Drek
03-17-2010, 03:32 AM
I won't complain about Toby in the backfield but this is funny as hell. Typical McDaniels type move.

Replacing a guy who mentally compares to a burnt out light bulb with an athletically similar, very intelligent player?

You're right, that is a McDaniels move.

bpc
03-17-2010, 05:14 AM
Replacing a guy who mentally compares to a burnt out light bulb with an athletically similar, very intelligent player?

You're right, that is a McDaniels move.

Sadly, you have no proof of that. You're just grabbing at straws hoping your hoard of dopes agree with you.

Regardless, Hillis is gone! Now we won't have to worry about undermining Knowshon's 3.8 ypc average, poor short ydg performance, and 59 ypg average.

tsiguy96
03-17-2010, 05:53 AM
At this point I just hope that we dial-in a Line/scheme that works with Moreno. Because we all know McD is going to be riding him this year come hell or high water. Just find a way to move the chains... that's all I'm asking.

hopefully the line stops getting blown up this year

BroncoInferno
03-17-2010, 07:24 AM
Sadly, you have no proof of that. You're just grabbing at straws hoping your hoard of dopes agree with you.


Oh, I see. And you aren't grasping at straws by assuming McD had no good reason to limit Hillis' touches? Hypocrite.

Florida_Bronco
03-17-2010, 08:16 AM
Oh, I see. And you aren't grasping at straws by assuming McD had no good reason to limit Hillis' touches? Hypocrite.

He's a dishonest jackass who pretends he didn't see this thread (http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=87093) despite multiple postings in there, including further proof of Peyton's lack of mental ability.

Requiem
03-17-2010, 09:12 AM
Daggonit guys. I have a hangover and don't wanna see you slapping ballsacks at one another this early in the day. It's not even noon CST!

Chris
03-17-2010, 10:06 AM
We hardly used the FB in our offense last year. Do we really need to waste a second rounder on one?

UberBroncoMan
03-17-2010, 11:33 AM
Other than white pigmentation what's the similarity?

Hillis has 15 more pounds of muscle and way more of a pass threat. Gerhart is probably very smart and did damn good in college.

That said I'm not against picking this dude up at all.

Who knows, maybe we'll turn Toby into a FB if we get him.