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strafen
03-14-2010, 11:51 PM
Transcript of Brady Quinn's exclusive interview with the Plain Dealer
By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer
March 14, 2010, 9:44PM

Associated PressBrady Quinn was traded to the Broncos today, and leaves the Browns with mixed emotions.CLEVELAND -- Former Browns quarterback Brady Quinn, who was traded to the Denver Broncos today for running back Peyton Hillis and two future draft picks, talked exclusively to the Plain Dealer today. Here is the transcript:

* "Obviously there are things that are out of my control. It's a great opportunity for me to play under a great coach (Josh McDaniels).''


* "It will be a fresh start for me and great opportunity with a very talented team and it should be a lot of fun.''


* (On starting in Denver?) "At this point, I'm just looking to create a role for myself on the team. Anytime you're in a situation like this, that's all you can really do is just go in there and learn the system, get to know your teammates and coaches, everyone else and that's really my focus right now. All of those things will take care of themselve in the end.''


* (On the Browns turning to Jake Delhomme instead of him)"It's really hard to try to figure out what it is. Coach Mike Holmgren has had a lot of success, and I'm sure the decisions he's making, he's got a lot of reasons for them and he's doing what he wants to with the team. It's not really for me to question. I'm a Bronco and I couldn't be happier to be heading over to Denver. It's a storied organization, and a beautiful city. It will be fun experiencing it and moving on with this part of my life.''


* (On his love affair with Browns fans)"I had a wonderful time in Cleveland and I say that because of the fans -- the fans were so great and everyone was so welcoming and loyal to me. Even though I battled through some tough times, I think the fans stuck with me and I can't thank them enough for all of their support.''


* "I wish things would've worked out differently with Cleveland. I really wanted to be the guy to turn things around and turn the tide, but that's not the situation I'm faced with at this point. All I can do is move on and look toward the future and look toward Denver at this point.''


* (On mixed emotions) "I think you just have to give yourself a dose of reality. Things don't always work out the way you want them to in life. I know God has a plan for me and obviously those plans are leading me out to Denver right now. At this point, I'll just continue to work as hard as I can and do the best I can to get in there and be a catalyst or some sort of positive entity to the Broncos team.''


* (On some sadness to leave) "Obviously not being able to play close to home near my family and not being able to play for the team that you always rooted for growing up -- yea, there's some sadness there, but there's a lot of things that are out of my control, so you can't sit there and think about those kinds of things too much.''


* "The biggest thing for me is being appreciative of the fans. For the time that I was there, I can't thank them enough for their support. They're as loyal as can be. They'd always keep us in games even when we were down, helped bring us back. Hopefully they'll always continue to have that enthusiasm. It's a great place to play and a great team and organization to be a part of.


* (On receiving a fair shot here?) "Looking at the situation, it's not really for me to decide that. I just wish things would've gone differently in Cleveland. I hope they have success in the future. I hope coach Holmgren can get things turned around for them.''


* (On did he ask for trade) "No, there was no request for a trade. The first I learned about it was when (General Manager) Tom Heckert informed me of it. But when they signed Jake (Delhomme) to the deal they did, the writing was kind of on the wall at that point.''


* "One of the biggest things coming out of this is that you're going to a team that really wants you and came and got you. I'm looking forward to the opportunity. Hopefully I can continue to learn and grow and get better. Hopefully having a coach like coach McDaniels will allow me to do that.''

* (On his confidence)"No matter what the situation, I've always felt confident in my ability and hopefully I'll have the opportunity to show that in Denver.''


* (On his Lis Franc foot injury)"It's doing great. It's really progressed very well. I'm just now coming into 100% recovery and feeling great. I look forward to competing and working with the guys in the offseason workouts (starting this week).''


* (On selling his house here)I did. So I'm happy that worked out as well. Things sort of fell into place.


* "Obviously there's a lot of changes going on and coach mike holmgren has his rhyme and reason. I'm sorry it couldn't have lasted longer.

Archer81
03-14-2010, 11:55 PM
Interesting how he kept calling holmgren coach.

:Broncos:

Popps
03-15-2010, 12:03 AM
Interesting how he kept calling holmgren coach.

:Broncos:

Just a football thing. Any coach to a player is just "coach," working... retired, etc.

If I see Coach Russo on the street tomorrow (my high school coach) ... he's "Coach."

(Only, he passed away... so that would be weird.)

ZONA
03-15-2010, 12:46 AM
Nothing against Cleveland the city but I think he will enjoy the city of Denver a whole lot more. The mountains, the facilities, just everything. I know I am biased having lived in Colorado for half my life, but I've been to Cleveland quite a few times and I would be happy to be going to Denver.

Broncosfreak_56
03-15-2010, 01:08 AM
I hope he can show the potential he had coming out of college and be a good starter for us. I just want a good quarterback that can bring us back with his arm, whether it be Quinn or Orton.

Rohirrim
03-15-2010, 01:29 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.

BroncoMan4ever
03-15-2010, 01:31 AM
something that cracks me up about Quinn coming to Denver is that when he was at the draft and kept getting skipped over, my girlfriend was watching with me and she kept telling me that Quinn was going to end up in Denver, and the whole time i just kind of played along with her while in the back of my head thinking she was nuts

i guess she knew something i didn't

BroncoMan4ever
03-15-2010, 01:32 AM
I hope he can show the potential he had coming out of college and be a good starter for us. I just want a good quarterback that can bring us back with his arm, whether it be Quinn or Orton.

for a QB to be capable of doing that, his offensive line needs to give him the necessary time to get rid of the ball

Broncosfreak_56
03-15-2010, 01:43 AM
for a QB to be capable of doing that, his offensive line needs to give him the necessary time to get rid of the ball

Well, yeah, of course.

anton
03-15-2010, 02:00 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.

Not really. Holmgen chose Draft Pick QB over Quinn as the future QB. But that Delhomme signing is brutal ..7 mil for a guy that sucked with a great running game and Steve Smith.

Paladin
03-15-2010, 02:16 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.

Tells you what?

Ro, that is rather doubtful. I do not have a connection to Holmgren's "mind", nor do I have ESP powers, and I do not believe you do, either. Mind-reading is not a facility in great supply anywhere. I sincerely doubt that you or anyone else here has a clear impresion or any real knpowledge as to what Holmgren is/was thinking at this time about Quinn or any other player in his organization.

There are many possible reasons why Holmgren made the move he did. Frankly, I don't really give a crap what those may be, I am not a Browns fan. Nor do I believe that every player that the broncos trade for or acquire, automatically has flaws attached with some conspiracy theory or "hidden meanings" as to the reasons they are now Broncos. It is possible that all players are human beings and therefor vary among themselves along the personality and physical capabilities factors like all people do.

The fact that Holmgren chose to sign Jake D and trade Quinn does not even have to be connected in any causal thought processes. One cannot imply causality from these events.

Therefore, your statement - whispered in a conspiratoial tone - is absurd on the face of it, and rather meaningless on the back of it.

Blart
03-15-2010, 02:25 AM
and not being able to play for the team that you always rooted for growing up

He must have grown up hating the Broncos.

extralife
03-15-2010, 02:45 AM
Tells you what?

Ro, that is rather doubtful. I do not have a connection to Holmgren's "mind", nor do I have ESP powers, and I do not believe you do, either. Mind-reading is not a facility in great supply anywhere. I sincerely doubt that you or anyone else here has a clear impresion or any real knpowledge as to what Holmgren is/was thinking at this time about Quinn or any other player in his organization.

There are many possible reasons why Holmgren made the move he did. Frankly, I don't really give a crap what those may be, I am not a Browns fan. Nor do I believe that every player that the broncos trade for or acquire, automatically has flaws attached with some conspiracy theory or "hidden meanings" as to the reasons they are now Broncos. It is possible that all players are human beings and therefor vary among themselves along the personality and physical capabilities factors like all people do.

The fact that Holmgren chose to sign Jake D and trade Quinn does not even have to be connected in any causal thought processes. One cannot imply causality from these events.

Therefore, your statement - whispered in a conspiratoial tone - is absurd on the face of it, and rather meaningless on the back of it.

I see all these words, and I marvel at how they manage to say absolutely nothing.

Broncoman13
03-15-2010, 03:41 AM
He must have grown up hating the Broncos.

He probably did but only b/c it was the popular thing to do. It's kind of like a Bronco fan that was born in the 90's. He probably just barely got into football in the late 90's. So he hates the Chefs and the Raiders b/c it's programmed, but doesn't remember the Chefs ever being that good and only a season or two of the Raiders being good. His real hatred is the Chargers.

Brady Quinn was probably born right around 1985-1986. He probably knows the stories and has obviously seen the drive... but he didn't live through it, so his hatred for the Broncos wouldn't be developed per se, but rather programmed.

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2010, 05:33 AM
I don't care one way or another about this trade. Coach Walrus isn't exactly GM of the century. In fact he's been a failure.

oubronco
03-15-2010, 06:02 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.

Thats what i think as well

Archer81
03-15-2010, 06:31 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.


That Cleveland is going QB early in this draft, and signed Delhomme to "oversee" the building project so "building block A" doesnt get their teeth kicked in.


:Broncos:

oubronco
03-15-2010, 06:34 AM
That Cleveland is going QB early in this draft, and signed Delhomme to "oversee" the building project so "building block A" doesnt get their teeth kicked in.


:Broncos:

7 million a year to oversee a building project, well hell I need one of those jobs

broncofan7
03-15-2010, 06:39 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.

It tells you that Holmgren is going to draft a young QB and ride Del-homey this year because he doesn't want to hitch his wagon to another regime's young QB...much like McD didn't want to hitch himself to Jay c. Trading for a 1st round QB from 3 years ago for a backup FB and some low grade picks is agreat for adding depth to our QB position. Jay C he is not--but he is more mobile than Orton and has more experience than Tom B.

BroncoMan4ever
03-15-2010, 06:41 AM
Nothing against Cleveland the city but I think he will enjoy the city of Denver a whole lot more. The mountains, the facilities, just everything. I know I am biased having lived in Colorado for half my life, but I've been to Cleveland quite a few times and I would be happy to be going to Denver.

there are a lot of FA who came from other cities and after playing in Denver a few seasons made the city their permanent home.

BroncoMan4ever
03-15-2010, 06:43 AM
That Cleveland is going QB early in this draft, and signed Delhomme to "oversee" the building project so "building block A" doesnt get their teeth kicked in.


:Broncos:

i agree, and Delhomme is one of those guys who looks terrible one week and then the next is awesome. Holmgren is hoping Delhomme has a decent season while the team is grooming his replacement.

Dedhed
03-15-2010, 06:43 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.

About who is the question.

ColoradoDarin
03-15-2010, 07:27 AM
I'm a Bronco and I couldn't be happier to be heading over to Denver. It's a storied organization, and a beautiful city. It will be fun experiencing it and moving on with this part of my life.'

Thank you Brady Quinn for saying the right thing here. Makes me want to root for him already.

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2010, 07:51 AM
Thank you Brady Quinn for saying the right thing here. Makes me want to root for him already.

It's easy to say the right thing when it's the truth. :)

strafen
03-15-2010, 07:51 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there. He didn't choose Delhomme over Quinn per-se.
Quinn was going to be out of Cleveland no matter who they've brought in.

What is interesting to me is that the two QB's which all the chaos was about in Cleveland, are now gone; Brady and Anderson

Paladin
03-15-2010, 07:54 AM
I see all these words, and I marvel at how they manage to say absolutely nothing.

That's because you don't READ.....


:clown:

ColoradoDarin
03-15-2010, 07:54 AM
It's easy to say the right thing when it's the truth. :)

Oh yeah!:~ohyah!:

Paladin
03-15-2010, 07:56 AM
This message is hidden because dragster69 is on your ignore list (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

Because it is the right thing to do.......

strafen
03-15-2010, 08:10 AM
This message is NOT hidden because Paladin is such a whining little b!tch

Smiling Assassin27
03-15-2010, 08:18 AM
It's more what McD has to say that worries the hell outta me:

We wouldn't have Chris (Simms)there if we didn't feel good about him having an opportunity to play and win games with us.



If Simms has a roster spot on this team, I will be forced to send a strongly worded letter to Gutless Drunk and Boy Blunder.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-15-2010, 08:28 AM
Even if you have your doubts about Quinn, i dont understand how you can complain about this trade. We basically gave up nothing (im a hillis fan, but we werent using him at all) for a 1st round draft pick who only started 12 games for a sad excuse of an NFL team. We know what McD can do with QBs. If Quinn never pans out, then so what, we hardly mortgaged the future to get him. Low risk/high reward if you ask me

ghwk
03-15-2010, 10:10 AM
Holmgren chooses Delhomme over Quinn. That tells you something right there.

Pessimist! :rofl:

bendog
03-15-2010, 10:16 AM
Even if you have your doubts about Quinn, i dont understand how you can complain about this trade. We basically gave up nothing (im a hillis fan, but we werent using him at all) for a 1st round draft pick who only started 12 games for a sad excuse of an NFL team. We know what McD can do with QBs. If Quinn never pans out, then so what, we hardly mortgaged the future to get him. Low risk/high reward if you ask me

I'd agree, but you overstate tiny's trackrecord with qbs. He got one year out of cassells, who sucks, and rode on Brady's coattails.

Rohirrim
03-15-2010, 10:17 AM
Quinn should not lose focus on his underwear modeling career.

Dagmar
03-15-2010, 10:19 AM
Quinn should not lose focus on his underwear modeling career.

Man, you REALLY hate this guy...

bendog
03-15-2010, 10:19 AM
There's femdom porn, too.

Rohirrim
03-15-2010, 10:20 AM
Man, you REALLY hate this guy...

I don't like seeing "FAIL" in a Broncos uni. That's all. Simple. ;D

Gort
03-15-2010, 10:20 AM
Just a football thing. Any coach to a player is just "coach," working... retired, etc.

If I see Coach Russo on the street tomorrow (my high school coach) ... he's "Coach."

(Only, he passed away... so that would be weird.)

zombie football coaches. :thumbsup:

Cito Pelon
03-15-2010, 10:21 AM
I'd agree, but you overstate tiny's trackrecord with qbs. He got one year out of cassells, who sucks, and rode on Brady's coattails.

Give it a rest.

bendog
03-15-2010, 10:29 AM
do it yourself.

TotallyScrewed
03-15-2010, 12:40 PM
Tells you what?

Ro, that is rather doubtful. I do not have a connection to Holmgren's "mind", nor do I have ESP powers, and I do not believe you do, either. Mind-reading is not a facility in great supply anywhere. I sincerely doubt that you or anyone else here has a clear impresion or any real knpowledge as to what Holmgren is/was thinking at this time about Quinn or any other player in his organization.

There are many possible reasons why Holmgren made the move he did. Frankly, I don't really give a crap what those may be, I am not a Browns fan. Nor do I believe that every player that the broncos trade for or acquire, automatically has flaws attached with some conspiracy theory or "hidden meanings" as to the reasons they are now Broncos. It is possible that all players are human beings and therefor vary among themselves along the personality and physical capabilities factors like all people do.

The fact that Holmgren chose to sign Jake D and trade Quinn does not even have to be connected in any causal thought processes. One cannot imply causality from these events.

Therefore, your statement - whispered in a conspiratoial tone - is absurd on the face of it, and rather meaningless on the back of it.


First of all....Huh?


Second of all, I think that we can assume that Holmgren does have some reason for his actions, in other words it wasn't random chance, and it is implied that he believes that the Browns have a better chance of winning with Delhomme. So we're getting Holmgrens opinion..whether the phone rings or not.

TotallyScrewed
03-15-2010, 12:45 PM
zombie football coaches. :thumbsup:

OR....

Do you see your Grand parents, your kindergarden teacher, Mrs. Swan, who was like 90 or something and your dog, Buster, that died when you were a kid and that turtle and all those fing goldfish and...

Popcorn Sutton
03-15-2010, 12:49 PM
It's more what McD has to say that worries the hell outta me:



If Simms has a roster spot on this team, I will be forced to send a strongly worded letter to Gutless Drunk and Boy Blunder.

Rest easy my friend.

Paladin
03-15-2010, 12:50 PM
First of all....Huh?


Second of all, I think that we can assume that Holmgren does have some reason for his actions, in other words it wasn't random chance, and it is implied that he believes that the Browns have a better chance of winning with Delhomme. So we're getting Holmgrens opinion..whether the phone rings or not.

YOU can assume. He has reasons for his actions, but you cannot devine them. There are many raesons as to why he made the moves he did. If you were on the Browns' staff, maybe you'd have an idea. But you sure as h3ll would not assume anything.....

TerrElway
03-15-2010, 12:57 PM
Just curious what would the reaction to Quinn be if Denver had drafted him instead of just picked him up as a FA?

I'm gonna wait and see before forming an opinion. Vince Young was a colossal bust until late last year. Ryan Leaf was always a bust so I guess we will see who Quinn turns out to be.

Pony Boy
03-15-2010, 12:59 PM
Well, I got to say I'm proud of you guys so far no one has said anything about the gay bars in Denver..... and touching pee-pee's ............

oubronco
03-15-2010, 01:01 PM
It's more what McD has to say that worries the hell outta me:



If Simms has a roster spot on this team, I will be forced to send a strongly worded letter to Gutless Drunk and Boy Blunder.

don't worry crissy is gone

broncofan7
03-15-2010, 01:07 PM
Brady Quinn is not as good looking as me.

Boobs McGee
03-15-2010, 01:07 PM
I'm not trying to enrage anyone who still likes jay with the following comments.

Isn't it amazing the difference between these two young qb's, just in the way they handle their departures? Say what you want, point the fingers, blame whoever...BUT, brady quinn showed nothing but class when referring to the people that loved him while he was there. Three different times he talked about how much he loved the fans. How much he cared about them and how much he appreciated their support, and he'd miss them. Cutler on the other hand threw us under the ****ing bus. Yes, I realize quinn was traded quickly, and he had another team (the best ****ing team in football) waiting in the wings, but he didn't bitch moan or cry...no poor me poor me. Just a simple, while I don't understand the coaches reasons, it is what it is.

I'm so glad the little bitch is in chicago, and after reading this transcript I'm amazed at, if nothing else, quinn's savvy with the media.

Just an observation. We'll see how it all pans out on the field, but for a fluff interview, I'm impressed.

Tombstone RJ
03-15-2010, 01:08 PM
Just curious what would the reaction to Quinn be if Denver had drafted him instead of just picked him up as a FA?

I'm gonna wait and see before forming an opinion. Vince Young was a colossal bust until late last year. Ryan Leaf was always a bust so I guess we will see who Quinn turns out to be.

Didn't VY get rookie of the year? He was good in 2007 (helped his team win games in an unconventional style, but nontheless) he tanked in 2008 and then he resurfaced in 2009.

The jury is still out on VY, but he hasn't reached "colossal bust" status yet...

Archer81
03-15-2010, 01:10 PM
Well, I got to say I'm proud of you guys so far no one has said anything about the gay bars in Denver..... and touching pee-pee's ............


Now that you mention it...


mwa ha.


:Broncos:

Popcorn Sutton
03-15-2010, 01:11 PM
My 2 cents... The Browns fans have been watching a QB competition for several years now between Quinn and Anderson. Holmgren wants to change the offensive philosophy to be more like he ran in Seattle (which is why they picked up Seneca Wallace). Neither Quinn or Anderson fit that mold and they are (like somebody else said) a product of the old regime. Holmgren felt it was best to cut his losses and move on. Delhomme is the stop-gap and he needs to find the QBOTF. They get a solid football player in Hillis and picks. Everybody is happy. Well, I know a few Browns fans that aren't but I can't say I blame them. However, within the Browns organization, they are happy that it's behind them.

Tombstone RJ
03-15-2010, 01:14 PM
Brady Quinn is not as good looking as me.

I'm sure your impressive when your doing curls in front of the mirror. Me, I do the 12oz curls at the bar... all.... nite... long....

Popcorn Sutton
03-15-2010, 01:14 PM
I'm not trying to enrage anyone who still likes jay with the following comments.

Isn't it amazing the difference between these two young qb's, just in the way they handle their departures? Say what you want, point the fingers, blame whoever...BUT, brady quinn showed nothing but class when referring to the people that loved him while he was there. Three different times he talked about how much he loved the fans. How much he cared about them and how much he appreciated their support, and he'd miss them. Cutler on the other hand threw us under the ****ing bus. Yes, I realize quinn was traded quickly, and he had another team (the best ****ing team in football) waiting in the wings, but he didn't b**** moan or cry...no poor me poor me. Just a simple, while I don't understand the coaches reasons, it is what it is.

I'm so glad the little b**** is in chicago, and after reading this transcript I'm amazed at, if nothing else, quinn's savvy with the media.

Just an observation. We'll see how it all pans out on the field, but for a fluff interview, I'm impressed.

If you've paid any attention to Quinn's career thus far, he has always been the consummate professional. He says the right things and he works hard. I really hope with a change in scenery and some coaching that he can become a good QB for us. Maybe not a starter but I like having him as a backup for now.

ColoradoDarin
03-15-2010, 01:18 PM
Well, I got to say I'm proud of you guys so far no one has said anything about the gay bars in Denver..... and touching pee-pee's ............

we leave that to you.... it seems to be your favorite pastime :welcome: ^5

Pony Boy
03-15-2010, 01:18 PM
Brady Quinn is not as good looking as me.

But, There's a gleam! Let's get that gleam!"

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2010, 01:23 PM
but, there's a gleam! Let's get that gleam!"

lol

broncocalijohn
03-15-2010, 01:32 PM
Nothing against Cleveland the city but I think he will enjoy the city of Denver a whole lot more. The mountains, the facilities, just everything. I know I am biased having lived in Colorado for half my life, but I've been to Cleveland quite a few times and I would be happy to be going to Denver.

It is ranked most miserable city for either this year or last year. With the Browns sucking eggs in most pro sports, he got used to one hell of a dumpy life growing up there. Denver living will be like Utopia for him.

Popcorn Sutton
03-15-2010, 01:34 PM
It is ranked most miserable city for either this year or last year. With the Browns sucking eggs in most pro sports, he got used to one hell of a dumpy life growing up there. Denver living will be like Utopia for him.

I'll be joining him in 2 weeks. Yup, left Denver 7 years ago and finally headed back. Might actually show my ugly mug at Orangemane Weekend this year...

Not that you care but I felt like sharing it anyway.

broncocalijohn
03-15-2010, 01:35 PM
Give it a rest.

It was better when Bendog disappeared for so many months to only come back as Mock II.

Hamrob
03-15-2010, 01:52 PM
Very nicely said. I think he's a class act and will fit in well. It will be nice to have a better option on the team than Simms. I really hope he pushes Orton. I'm also anxious to see what progress Brandstrater has made after a year in our system.

bendog
03-15-2010, 02:05 PM
God ... can you imagine the gay bar scene in Cleveland.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2598708656_4970c638ab.jpg

broncofan7
03-15-2010, 02:53 PM
But, There's a gleam! Let's get that gleam!"

sorry--is that some famous line from a part of counter culture that I am obviously unfamiliar with?

Archer81
03-15-2010, 06:37 PM
sorry--is that some famous line from a part of counter culture that I am obviously unfamiliar with?

Marty shottenheimer.


:Broncos:

Pony Boy
03-15-2010, 06:55 PM
sorry--is that some famous line from a part of counter culture that I am obviously unfamiliar with?

Sorry but I must deduct 5 pts off your wonderlic score

baja
03-15-2010, 06:57 PM
Sorry but I must deduct 5 pts off your wonderlic score

that would leave him in minus territory.

Cito Pelon
03-15-2010, 07:20 PM
God ... can you imagine the gay bar scene in Cleveland.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2598708656_4970c638ab.jpg

There is no way I'm clicking on that link, dog.

TonyR
03-15-2010, 07:42 PM
It is ranked most miserable city for either this year or last year.

Just wait until LeBron packs his bags for NY or Miami...

TerrElway
03-15-2010, 08:01 PM
Didn't VY get rookie of the year? He was good in 2007 (helped his team win games in an unconventional style, but nontheless) he tanked in 2008 and then he resurfaced in 2009.

The jury is still out on VY, but he hasn't reached "colossal bust" status yet...

Colossal bust is maybe the Internet hyperbole talking TRJ (and good point about the ROY totally forgot that) the point is VY went from up to down to back up again. Leaf never came back up. Point is which one will Quinn be or is it fair to say he will suck forever because of his 14 whole starts with the Browns. Maybe, maybe not for the sake of my favorite team I hope not.

broncosteven
03-15-2010, 08:03 PM
Anyone else see this?

* (On his Lis Franc foot injury)"It's doing great. It's really progressed very well. I'm just now coming into 100% recovery and feeling great. I look forward to competing and working with the guys in the offseason workouts (starting this week).''

Isn't Lis Franc tough to deal with and come back from? I heard some radio jockeys here in Chicago talking about having it and they will be jogging and their foot forgets how to work or something...even after surgery...

broncosteven
03-15-2010, 08:04 PM
Colossal bust is maybe the Internet hyperbole talking TRJ (and good point about the ROY totally forgot that) the point is VY went from up to down to back up again. Leaf never came back up. Point is which one will Quinn be or is it fair to say he will suck forever because of his 14 whole starts with the Browns. Maybe, maybe not for the sake of my favorite team I hope not.

When I think of Leaf I remember Ray Crocket (who I thought was a great CB) falling down at least twice. Thank god we had Gus Van sant at QB that day.

Cito Pelon
03-15-2010, 08:07 PM
Scheffler had a Lisfranc. It's not ideal to have any player with a Lisfranc.

broncocalijohn
03-16-2010, 09:12 AM
sorry--is that some famous line from a part of counter culture that I am obviously unfamiliar with?

I guess if it isnt in cartoon form, you would have no clue about it.

bendog
03-16-2010, 09:31 AM
There is no way I'm clicking on that link, dog.

There's a motorcycle in it! for real.

Arkie
03-16-2010, 04:37 PM
My 2 cents... The Browns fans have been watching a QB competition for several years now between Quinn and Anderson. Holmgren wants to change the offensive philosophy to be more like he ran in Seattle (which is why they picked up Seneca Wallace). Neither Quinn or Anderson fit that mold and they are (like somebody else said) a product of the old regime. Holmgren felt it was best to cut his losses and move on. Delhomme is the stop-gap and he needs to find the QBOTF. They get a solid football player in Hillis and picks. Everybody is happy. Well, I know a few Browns fans that aren't but I can't say I blame them. However, within the Browns organization, they are happy that it's behind them.

Here are a few things Holmgren said about Quinn...

Holmgren said it normally takes two solid years of playing before a quarterback can be defined.

“Maybe you think, OK, this guy’s got a chance to be your guy,” Holmgren said. “If he’s a first-rounder, because of what you’re paying him, you’re pretty much guaranteeing he’s going to get a real shot.

“Now, by the end of the two years, you know ... I know ... I’ve always known ... if he’s your guy.”

Why two years?

“He’s had a fair chance to show me he gets it, he studies, he’s learned the offense, his decision making is good, and we can win with him,” Holmgren said. “Now, that’s two years. That’s 32 games.

“I think Brady’s played about nine games in three years (actually 12). So if I’m sticking to my beliefs, which I really do believe in, that’s the formula.

“You bang around and bang around and bang around, and pretty soon, phew, the lights go on. And then you’ve got something good. But during the growing pains, you kind of ask everyone to understand what we’re doing. You commit ... if you believe that quarterback has a chance.”

http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1650244729/Browns-president-must-decide-if-Quinn-is-worth-the-time