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Rulon Velvet Jones
03-11-2010, 01:46 PM
Fox 31 Alert: The Broncos have informed LB Andra Davis that he has been let go. Just got off the phone with Davis.

BMarsh615
03-11-2010, 01:47 PM
Rolando McClain come on up.

Dukes
03-11-2010, 01:47 PM
Damnit

bronco militia
03-11-2010, 01:49 PM
Wtf?!?

Dr. Broncenstein
03-11-2010, 01:49 PM
This defense had problems. I didn't think he was one of them.

Rabb
03-11-2010, 01:50 PM
Hmm, I liked him too...damn

baja
03-11-2010, 01:50 PM
when this regime reaches a decision they waste no time acting on it, I like that.

outdoor_miner
03-11-2010, 01:50 PM
Wow. I thought he played very well last year. But what the heck do I know?

ColoradoBuff
03-11-2010, 01:50 PM
hmmmmm if not McClain then 'Spoon at 11? wow! interesting!

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 01:50 PM
I don't agree with this move at all.

BroncoInferno
03-11-2010, 01:51 PM
Kind of surprising. He wasn't a beast by any means, but he had some good games and his play seemed steady enough to warrent a roster spot. I guess they like Woodard and/or the draft options.

baja
03-11-2010, 01:51 PM
they thanked him for last season and felt he did not have another year in him or maybe they want to resign him at less money.

Mr.Meanie
03-11-2010, 01:51 PM
Wow that's surprising. I wonder why

Broncosfreak_56
03-11-2010, 01:52 PM
Inside linebacker in first am confirmed.

Rabb
03-11-2010, 01:52 PM
I don't agree with this move at all.

on the surface, I don't like it either...but I am sure there is a plan

Traveler
03-11-2010, 01:53 PM
Damn! One of the few players that seemed to know which gap to shoot. Very surprising! I expected to hear Jarvis Moss' name before Davis'.

dbfan21
03-11-2010, 01:53 PM
Hmmm...I wonder why they let him go. I thought he did pretty well last year, especially in the first half of the season. Even still, he made some good plays in the last 8 games. McD is up to something!!

bowtown
03-11-2010, 01:53 PM
Don't like this one bit.

Rabb
03-11-2010, 01:54 PM
Damn! One of the few players that seemed to know which gap to shoot. Very surprising! I expected to hear Jarvis Moss' name before Davis'.

you bring up something that is driving me insane, why is Moss still a Bronco?

BroncoInferno
03-11-2010, 01:54 PM
Inside linebacker in first am confirmed.

I thought that, too, but with the absense of a cap it seems odd that they would release him now, thus tipping their hands. I'm thinking they are satisfied with the cheaper options already on the roster (like Woodard) and feel they can get similar production for cheaper. That's not to say they won't spend a 1st on the position, but it doesn't seem likely the move was made solely for that reason.

BigPlayShay
03-11-2010, 01:55 PM
Deal with the Jets involving Marshall for David harris?

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2010, 01:55 PM
Seriously wtf.... this makes no ****ing sense whatsoever.

Mogulseeker
03-11-2010, 01:56 PM
Wow... Davis was not a weak point last year. Must be something we don't know. That, or, McD plans on drafting an ILB... or Spencer Larsen has done something incredible.

baja
03-11-2010, 01:56 PM
They have other plans and did this now to give him a chance to sign somewhere else or we want him back at less money.

bowtown
03-11-2010, 01:58 PM
McDaniels is clearly out to purge the team of all of McDaniel's guys.

bowtown
03-11-2010, 01:59 PM
Deal with the Jets involving Marshall for David harris?

Don't tease me.

Popcorn Sutton
03-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Strange move. Andra Davis is a great locker room guy and a solid contributor. WTF?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
03-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Hmmm...I wonder why they let him go. I thought he did pretty well last year, especially in the first half of the season. Even still, he made some good plays in the last 8 games. McD is up to something!!

Marshall for Tatupu.

Traveler
03-11-2010, 02:02 PM
Marshall for Tatupu.

Puff, puff, pass, dude!

gyldenlove
03-11-2010, 02:02 PM
I have a feeling he will be brought back at a lower salary, considering that our LB coach is the new DC our decisions regarding LBs should be good.

Popcorn Sutton
03-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Puff, puff, pass, dude!

Send it my way next...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
03-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Puff, puff, pass, dude!

It was a joke, "dude!"

cmhargrove
03-11-2010, 02:04 PM
I heard he had sex with Ben Roethlisberer

Traveler
03-11-2010, 02:04 PM
It was a joke, "dude!"

I know, dude!

SonOfLe-loLang
03-11-2010, 02:04 PM
This has nothing to do with the draft. There's no reason to drop your starting ILB a month and a half before the draft on the off chance you get the guy you want. something else is obviously at play.

outdoor_miner
03-11-2010, 02:06 PM
McDaniels is clearly out to purge the team of all of McDaniel's guys.

hahahahaha! I'm guessing Davis wasn't enough of a "yes man", so he needed to go.

In honesty - makes me wonder if Spencer Larsen is viewed as the answer? There is no way they would release Davis in anticipation of drafting someone. Too much uncertainty.

dbfan21
03-11-2010, 02:06 PM
This has nothing to do with the draft. There's no reason to drop your starting ILB a month and a half before the draft on the off chance you get the guy you want. something else is obviously at play.

I wanna know NOW dammit! :peace:

TheElusiveKyleOrton
03-11-2010, 02:06 PM
McPoopyHitlerheadstupidfacestalincrotch can't get along with anyone!

Chief Macho
03-11-2010, 02:07 PM
This is my favorite move of the off season. He was too slow. It was the downfall of the patriots the past few years and I'm hopeful they'll get someone with more speed.

Come on down, KIRK MORRISON.

sisterhellfyre
03-11-2010, 02:09 PM
This is my favorite move of the off season. He was too slow. It was the downfall of the patriots the past few years and I'm hopeful they'll get someone with more speed.

Come on down, KIRK MORRISON.

That could be a real good call, Chief. Lot less mileage on Kirk's tires.

bowtown
03-11-2010, 02:10 PM
This is my favorite move of the off season. He was too slow. It was the downfall of the patriots the past few years and I'm hopeful they'll get someone with more speed.

Come on down, KIRK MORRISON.

I forgot all about Morrison for a sec. Please let that be what it is...

Hogan11
03-11-2010, 02:11 PM
Has there been any other confirmation of this?

WolfpackGuy
03-11-2010, 02:11 PM
Strange move.

I thought he did decent for a low priced pickup.

Why isn't Simms cut yet?

jhns
03-11-2010, 02:12 PM
This is a strange time to release your starter. Either we have a trade in the works or Davis was a much bigger problem than people here think. It isn't like he was making a ton and he wouldn't hurt the cap if he was.

BMarsh615
03-11-2010, 02:12 PM
I just realized that we have the Raiders LB coach as our DC. Not a very good sign. :cuss:

Broncosfreak_56
03-11-2010, 02:12 PM
This is my favorite move of the off season. He was too slow. It was the downfall of the patriots the past few years and I'm hopeful they'll get someone with more speed.

Come on down, KIRK MORRISON.

He is martindales guy...that actually would make sense. Now, whether or not Al Davis would match the contract...

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2010, 02:13 PM
This is my favorite move of the off season. He was too slow. It was the downfall of the patriots the past few years and I'm hopeful they'll get someone with more speed.

Come on down, KIRK MORRISON.

Wow... I too forgot about that. He's a little over 3 years younger than Andra too, and our new DC was his old coach.

Wayne got Williams, guess Wink could get Morrison?


... WAIT a second.

There's no ****ing reason we'd release Andra Davis before offering Morrison a contract because the Raiders can just match it.

broncosteven
03-11-2010, 02:18 PM
I am surprised they wouldn't keep him on the roster until TC or some camp. I thought he was OK when the A Gap blitz was working but once teams watched for it he disappeared.

I thought Davis was a decent tackler but not a guy who could run ball carriers down I didn't see him in on the Run game that much.

Kinda surprised though, would be interested in signing Morrison but still not sure about drafting a MLB in the 1st round. Kinda hoping we could get in play for moving up to address the QB issue.

jsco70
03-11-2010, 02:19 PM
This surprises me. I thought Davis was pretty good last season. He made some nice plays and seemed to get into the backfield consistenly.

I can't believe they are putting much hope in Woodyard for anything besides depth. I don't believe he played very well last season compared to his rookie year.

Popps
03-11-2010, 02:22 PM
http://technestreport.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/huh.jpg

Florida_Bronco
03-11-2010, 02:23 PM
Kind of surprising. He wasn't a beast by any means, but he had some good games and his play seemed steady enough to warrent a roster spot. I guess they like Woodard and/or the draft options.

It couldn't be Woodyard, could it? He's D.J's backup at the WILB spot and for the SILB spot that Davis played you generally want bigger, stronger guys that can take on guards and fullbacks.

Still, any confirmation of this?

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 02:24 PM
Does anyone know if he was due a large roster bonus?

WolfpackGuy
03-11-2010, 02:26 PM
I'm sure the LB's in general will get better with the DL pickups, but Woodyard wouldn't last in a full time role.

He's better suited for long yardage downs and special teams.

Popcorn Sutton
03-11-2010, 02:27 PM
Does anyone know if he was due a large roster bonus?

All I remember is it was a two year contract. You might be right... perhaps it was back-loaded or had a large roster bonus. With no CBA in place they can cut him and try and re-sign him without penalty.

Traveler
03-11-2010, 02:28 PM
It'll be interesting to see the end result of this move.

Rohirrim
03-11-2010, 02:29 PM
All I remember is it was a two year contract. You might be right... perhaps it was back-loaded or had a large roster bonus. With no CBA in place they can cut him and try and re-sign him without penalty.

That's my guess. It's a pure money move.

Traveler
03-11-2010, 02:30 PM
LeKevin Smith to ILB. That's the ticket.

Hogan11
03-11-2010, 02:30 PM
It couldn't be Woodyard, could it? He's D.J's backup at the WILB spot and for the SILB spot that Davis played you generally want bigger, stronger guys that can take on guards and fullbacks.

Still, any confirmation of this?

I haven't found anything official about it yet

Bigdawg26
03-11-2010, 02:31 PM
Rolando McClain with the first pick!! It kinda makes sense that they cut Andra Davis because they want to get bigger and stop the run. McClain has the size at 6-4 250, can stop the run, he is a McDaniels type guy. He is very smart, high character guy, and is an extra coach and presence on the field!

bowtown
03-11-2010, 02:33 PM
Rolando McClain with the first pick!! It kinda makes sense that they cut Andra Davis because they want to get bigger and stop the run. McClain has the size at 6-4 250, can stop the run, he is a McDaniels type guy. He is very smart, high character guy, and is an extra coach and presence on the field!

But just like the Morrison thing, it wouldn't make any sense to release Davis before picking McClain. There is no possible way of knowing that we would be able to draft him. I highly suspect Davis will be resigned in the next day or two.

bowtown
03-11-2010, 02:35 PM
I haven't found anything official about it yet

http://www.rotoworld.com/CONTENT/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=nfl&id=2595

Andra Davis-LB- Broncos Mar. 11 - 3:55 pm et

Josina Anderson of Fox 31 KDVR in Denver reports the Broncos have released ILB Andra Davis. The Denver Post confirms.

The move is a surprise as the 31-year-old had a fine first season in Denver, exceeding expectations with 90 tackles and 3.5 sacks as a key figure in the team's surprising 6-0 start. The move could signal the team's intention to move Spencer Larsen into the starting lineup, though Alabama's Rolando McClain could be an option at No. 11 overall. Davis should draw free agent interest from teams with a 3-4 defense.
Source: Josina Anderson on Twitter
Related: Spencer Larsen, Rolando McClain

Doggcow
03-11-2010, 02:35 PM
Rolando McClain with the first pick!! It kinda makes sense that they cut Andra Davis because they want to get bigger and stop the run. McClain has the size at 6-4 250, can stop the run, he is a McDaniels type guy. He is very smart, high character guy, and is an extra coach and presence on the field!

Do you have any substance to the intelligence part? I saw like 3 or 4 interviews with McClain and he seemed like a total idiot. No offense, he did go to Bama, but he just seems like he's not all there.
+Crohns

I'd rather Dez, Iupati, Spiller, by far.

Hogan11
03-11-2010, 02:37 PM
http://www.rotoworld.com/CONTENT/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=nfl&id=2595

Andra Davis-LB- Broncos Mar. 11 - 3:55 pm et

Josina Anderson of Fox 31 KDVR in Denver reports the Broncos have released ILB Andra Davis. The Denver Post confirms.

The move is a surprise as the 31-year-old had a fine first season in Denver, exceeding expectations with 90 tackles and 3.5 sacks as a key figure in the team's surprising 6-0 start. The move could signal the team's intention to move Spencer Larsen into the starting lineup, though Alabama's Rolando McClain could be an option at No. 11 overall. Davis should draw free agent interest from teams with a 3-4 defense.
Source: Josina Anderson on Twitter
Related: Spencer Larsen, Rolando McClain

Thanks.

gyldenlove
03-11-2010, 02:38 PM
Well if Larsen has shown enough to be a starter that is good news, he always had a good head on his shoulders and in terms of character they don't come any better.

bowtown
03-11-2010, 02:39 PM
Well if Larsen has shown enough to be a starter that is good news, he always had a good head on his shoulders and in terms of character they don't come any better.

Larsen is our starting fullback. I really doubt they are moving him to ILB.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 02:40 PM
Larry Foote come on down!!!! If we draft Spoon in the first I will bunch a baby. There is no reason to have two WLB playing ILB in a 3-4 system when the are best suited for a 4-3.

WolfpackGuy
03-11-2010, 02:41 PM
Maybe this signals Hillis moving to LB.

LOL

Br0nc0Buster
03-11-2010, 02:43 PM
Hmm dont like this move
He was solid for us
Hopefully that means Larson is on deck

I do not want McClain or Weatherspoon, that would be a waste
especially considering McClain has Crohns

cousinal11
03-11-2010, 02:43 PM
This could not be to make room for someone already on the roster. No ****ing way.

So, why do it now when we are not assured to get who we want in free agency or the draft?

eddie mac
03-11-2010, 02:43 PM
Didn't see this one coming at all. BTW Davis is on very little in terms of money this year. $1.56m to be exact.

SoDak Bronco
03-11-2010, 02:46 PM
Weatherspoon anyone?

SonOfLe-loLang
03-11-2010, 02:48 PM
Again, i dont think this has anything to do with who we draft necessarily, but im a big fan of weatherspoon. i think he's gonna be a stud

supermanhr9
03-11-2010, 02:48 PM
quit your boo-hooing. He wasn't that great, he's gettign up there, and when you get down to it, he's totally replaceable. This regime doesn't hold on to guys because they are ok, they look to build a strong young nucleous. Look for McClain to be our #11 pick, or we'll trade down to get him.

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 02:50 PM
The only silver lining I can see is this gives Spencer Larsen a real chance to earn the starting MLB spot. They may try to bring Davis back at a lower price too. I wonder if a guy like Brandon Spikes is who McD might be targeting in the draft...

gyldenlove
03-11-2010, 02:51 PM
Larsen is our starting fullback. I really doubt they are moving him to ILB.

Considering how often we feature a FB compared to ILB, I think ILB is probably the more important of the two positions.

Requiem
03-11-2010, 02:52 PM
Blows my mind. Davis was our most consistent linebacker and had great metrics last season. A shocker.

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 02:53 PM
quit your boo-hooing. He wasn't that great, he's gettign up there, and when you get down to it, he's totally replaceable. This regime doesn't hold on to guys because they are ok, they look to build a strong young nucleous. Look for McClain to be our #11 pick, or we'll trade down to get him.

More like Brandon Spikes, esp. with McClains medical condition. I don't know about taking Spikes at #11 (or even McClain for that matter without the Chrone's issue).

Broncos trade down and take Spikes...

cousinal11
03-11-2010, 02:53 PM
Didn't see this one coming at all. BTW Davis is on very little in terms of money this year. $1.56m to be exact.

Definitely a head scratcher any way you look at it.

Requiem
03-11-2010, 02:55 PM
Sean Witherspoon come on down babycakes.

The MVPlaya
03-11-2010, 02:55 PM
Why is it that by default, when we lose or release someone of starting average caliber, we will draft that position in the first round? Same with Marshall, why is that, if we lose Marshall, by default, we'll get a WR with the first round pick?

The continuation of 3rd grade logic continues at the Mane.

cutthemdown
03-11-2010, 02:55 PM
Davis and Haggan played decent the first part of the yr, but last 4-5 games eeeeesh not good.

All those journeyman we signed were just stop gap. Even a lot of the guys this yr are probably stop gap. You just look for guys who can help you while you try and score some real talent through draft.

I'm not worried because it's obvious Broncos plan is to fix dline through journeyman and vet NFL starters. Then I think Broncos go WR and LB early and often in the draft.

They are good at TE/dline/secondary/RB They need a center/ number 1 wr/ and some good big physical inside linebackers.

The Joker
03-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Strange move.

He wasn't a pro-bowler or anything, but at the very worst he was a respectable starter who seemed a good locker room presence and had a cheap contract.

Maybe they have a trade in the works, but even still Davis seems like good, affordable depth even if he's not gonna be the starter.

eddie mac
03-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Any chance we see Haggan make the switch back inside with Ayers pushing for the other OLB starting slot???

eddie mac
03-11-2010, 02:57 PM
The thing is though, this draft is very average for ILB prospects.

Bigdawg26
03-11-2010, 02:57 PM
Do you have any substance to the intelligence part? I saw like 3 or 4 interviews with McClain and he seemed like a total idiot. No offense, he did go to Bama, but he just seems like he's not all there.
+Crohns

I'd rather Dez, Iupati, Spiller, by far.

Well the did run Saban's defense and was responsible for calling the defensive plays which would lead me to ppl even though he's not good at interviews but he has a high football IQ.

RunSilentRunDeep
03-11-2010, 02:58 PM
Any chance we see Haggan make the switch back inside with Ayers pushing for the other OLB starting slot???

Beat me to it.

meangene
03-11-2010, 02:59 PM
Any chance we see Haggan make the switch back inside with Ayers pushing for the other OLB starting slot???

I think that is the plan. Haggan is a better fit inside and just signed a new deal before last season. Time for Ayers to step up!

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 03:00 PM
Spikes is the best ILB in this draft as far as upside... size, and speed and he likes to hit. He's my first choice for ILB. With McClain's medical issues, I would not be suprised if some team takes Spikes before McClain...

Broncosfreak_56
03-11-2010, 03:03 PM
1. Trade back and take Iupati in the first,
2. Trade up a little in the second and take Spikes.
3. ???
4. Profit.

eddie mac
03-11-2010, 03:04 PM
TBH I'd have rather seen Andre get more opportunities to make plays behind Jamal and Justin than the line he was behind last year.

montrose
03-11-2010, 03:07 PM
I just don't get it. Why in the world wouldn't you bring he and Peterson into camp to compete. I've supported an overwhelming number of Xanders and McDaniels' personel moves but I just don't get these.

Rohirrim
03-11-2010, 03:07 PM
No problemo. We're switching to a base 5 - 2. ;D

eddie mac
03-11-2010, 03:07 PM
2nd rd tender on D'Qwell Jackson and 3rd rd on Kirk Morrison. I'd watch those 2 situations with interest.

outdoor_miner
03-11-2010, 03:08 PM
Any chance we see Haggan make the switch back inside with Ayers pushing for the other OLB starting slot???

Good call. They have to have an idea of someone on the team who they think can provide the same level of play. If they had someone else in the mind who wasn't on the team yet (draft or RFA), they would wait until after the player was secured.... Unless they are total idiots. Which they are not.

This leaves Larsen and Haggan as the two logical choices.

cartel
03-11-2010, 03:10 PM
he looked great first half of the year but disappeared the rest. time to get somebody better.

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 03:12 PM
I just don't get it. Why in the world wouldn't you bring he and Peterson into camp to compete. I've supported an overwhelming number of Xanders and McDaniels' personel moves but I just don't get these.

Well, maybe they are letting these guys walk so they can get picked up by another team. Really, if these guys aren't in the Broncos long term plans, it's a disservice to these guys to keep them around and then cut them anyway. This at least gives them an opportunity to get on with another team. If they can't, I'm willing to bet that McD will bring them back for less money. That's if they are willing to come back for less money.

I really liked it when the Broncos brought in Davis, this move kinda irritates me. However, we still have the draft to consider and who knows what McD is gonna do there.

Br0nc0Buster
03-11-2010, 03:13 PM
I hadnt thought about Haggan
I wouldnt mind him sliding inside and having Ayers taking over SOLB

Crushisback
03-11-2010, 03:14 PM
Damn! One of the few players that seemed to know which gap to shoot. Very surprising! I expected to hear Jarvis Moss' name before Davis'.

I was thinking just the opposite. He charged the "A" gap about every play. From time to time it worked and he looked great. Late in the year teams saw it and started cutting back underneath him (specifically Chiefs and Raiders).

I wonder if this has to do with him not playing within the system and free-lancing too much. Larsens job to lose for now.

bowtown
03-11-2010, 03:15 PM
Why does everyone think it's Larsen's job to lose? Larsen is our fullback and 3rd string ILB. It's Woodyard's job to lose right now, and as posted above, it's actually probably Hagan's job to lose.

montrose
03-11-2010, 03:18 PM
Well, maybe they are letting these guys walk so they can get picked up by another team. Really, if these guys aren't in the Broncos long term plans, it's a disservice to these guys to keep them around and then cut them anyway. This at least gives them an opportunity to get on with another team. If they can't, I'm willing to bet that McD will bring them back for less money. That's if they are willing to come back for less money.

I really liked it when the Broncos brought in Davis, this move kinda irritates me. However, we still have the draft to consider and who knows what McD is gonna do there.

I understand giving the guys time to find other teams, but that's assuming we have the replacement ready to go. We haven't signed another ILB and unless the staff has fallen in love with Haggan inside, Larsen or Woodyard - I'd rather see a competition in camp. At the least, Davis had a reputation as a very good special teamer in Cleveland and was a leader on their defense. Peterson was a very well respected locker room guy who'd been with the team for a few seasons. At the least I'd like to see the guys given a chance to compete in camp to contribute as backups if they're no longer viewed as starters. Just me thoughts on it, Xanders has done great in the personel department since his appointment - but these moves concern me.

Br0nc0Buster
03-11-2010, 03:18 PM
Why does everyone think it's Larsen's job to lose? Larsen is our fullback and 3rd string ILB. It's Woodyard's job to lose right now, and as posted above, it's actually probably Hagan's job to lose.

because Woodyard is not big enough to play SILB
Larsen has the size and strength though
My guess is if they think Larsen can start at linebacker then he wont play FB anymore

I wouldnt mind Haggan or Larsen at all for SILB

SonOfLe-loLang
03-11-2010, 03:25 PM
I understand giving the guys time to find other teams, but that's assuming we have the replacement ready to go. We haven't signed another ILB and unless the staff has fallen in love with Haggan inside, Larsen or Woodyard - I'd rather see a competition in camp. At the least, Davis had a reputation as a very good special teamer in Cleveland and was a leader on their defense. Peterson was a very well respected locker room guy who'd been with the team for a few seasons. At the least I'd like to see the guys given a chance to compete in camp to contribute as backups if they're no longer viewed as starters. Just me thoughts on it, Xanders has done great in the personel department since his appointment - but these moves concern me.

I'd love to hear the reasoning for it. I assume there's something at play

outdoor_miner
03-11-2010, 03:28 PM
I understand giving the guys time to find other teams, but that's assuming we have the replacement ready to go. We haven't signed another ILB and unless the staff has fallen in love with Haggan inside, Larsen or Woodyard - I'd rather see a competition in camp. At the least, Davis had a reputation as a very good special teamer in Cleveland and was a leader on their defense. Peterson was a very well respected locker room guy who'd been with the team for a few seasons. At the least I'd like to see the guys given a chance to compete in camp to contribute as backups if they're no longer viewed as starters. Just me thoughts on it, Xanders has done great in the personel department since his appointment - but these moves concern me.

The thing you have to remember is that they are not idiots (Xanders and McD). You don't cut your starting ILB or DE without a plan. Peterson is easy to see. There is a log-jam of similar talent at DE. He was the guy they identified as the least needed (for whatever reason), and they let him go. They signed 2 new DEs. It makes sense.

With Davis, it is more of a shock since there have been no recent additions. But, they clearly felt that someone was ready to take over for him. Also, it's entirely possible that there is an issue to which we are not privy (I'm thinking injury concerns). Or, perhaps they did not think he would react well to being a backup. Either way, you have to know that the only logical explanation is that there is someone on the team who they feel is an upgrade.

TheDave
03-11-2010, 03:29 PM
Hmmm... I don't get it.

Lev Vyvanse
03-11-2010, 03:30 PM
I understand giving the guys time to find other teams, but that's assuming we have the replacement ready to go. We haven't signed another ILB and unless the staff has fallen in love with Haggan inside, Larsen or Woodyard - I'd rather see a competition in camp. At the least, Davis had a reputation as a very good special teamer in Cleveland and was a leader on their defense. Peterson was a very well respected locker room guy who'd been with the team for a few seasons. At the least I'd like to see the guys given a chance to compete in camp to contribute as backups if they're no longer viewed as starters. Just me thoughts on it, Xanders has done great in the personel department since his appointment - but these moves concern me.

Am I crazy or does Haggan play outside?

Hamrob
03-11-2010, 03:33 PM
Maybe we're trading Marshall for Tatupu and the Hawks 2nd round pick?

jhns
03-11-2010, 03:39 PM
I think someone needs to come up with an anti-McD conspiracy for this before it plays out. It is more fun that way.

s0phr0syne
03-11-2010, 03:45 PM
Griesen?

HILife
03-11-2010, 03:45 PM
Fox 31 Alert: The Broncos have informed LB Andra Davis that he has been let go. Just got off the phone with Davis.

????????

outdoor_miner
03-11-2010, 03:46 PM
Am I crazy or does Haggan play outside?

He did last year, but it was a surprise when they moved him there. In Shanahan's last year, Haggan played quite a bit of ILB when Webster got hurt, and I believe that's where he played in Buffalo, too.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 03:46 PM
Who was the poster that claimed that Ayers would be better as a ILB last year?

SonOfLe-loLang
03-11-2010, 03:46 PM
Am I crazy or does Haggan play outside?

Last year he was, but an ILB by trade

eddie mac
03-11-2010, 03:48 PM
Griesen?

UFA coming off a major injury. Somehow doubt it.

bombay
03-11-2010, 03:50 PM
Really don't get it. He had a good season.

broncosteven
03-11-2010, 03:51 PM
Who was the poster that claimed that Ayers would be better as a ILB last year?

I could see that, he was always trailing plays from the outside and a liabilty in coverage. Maybe this is the plan along with drafting a guy in the upper rounds?

baja
03-11-2010, 03:51 PM
Hmmm... I don't get it.

Dave we have all know that for quite some time now. ;D

baja
03-11-2010, 03:53 PM
Hey maybe it's not true, ever consider that....

Popps
03-11-2010, 03:53 PM
Fair to say that a larger move must be coming to offset this.

There's no way this was done in anticipation of a draft pick. No way.

We're either going to sign or trade for someone very soon.

GoBroncos84
03-11-2010, 03:55 PM
Curiouser and Curiouser...


McClain, Spikes, or Chaney in the draft. Morrison or Jackson if we want to give up a draft pick for them. Haggan moving inside so Ayers can start outside. Larsen or Woodyard getting promoted. Any of those could justify this move, but its strange that the cut occurs before any of those have happened.

barryr
03-11-2010, 04:04 PM
Haggan is better inside than outside IMO, but not sure if that really has anything to with Davis this story.

Taco John
03-11-2010, 04:33 PM
Hard to fathom why we would release a guy who combined for 90 tackles last year. Most definitely seems odd.

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2010, 04:34 PM
Hard to fathom why we would release a guy who combined for 90 tackles last year. Most definitely seems odd.

Perhaps we're going to be running with 1 more DLine and 1 less LB this year.

Kaylore
03-11-2010, 04:34 PM
All I remember is it was a two year contract. You might be right... perhaps it was back-loaded or had a large roster bonus. With no CBA in place they can cut him and try and re-sign him without penalty.

You're right and I'm an idiot for forgetting this. In fact a lot of the releases are probably directly related to that fact.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 04:35 PM
Hard to fathom why we would release a guy who combined for 90 tackles last year. Most definitely seems odd.

Don't forget the fact that we kept DJ Williams, who clearly was the reason for the big plays. :giggle:

Kaylore
03-11-2010, 04:36 PM
Hard to fathom why we would release a guy who combined for 90 tackles last year. Most definitely seems odd.

He has no coverage ability and his "sideline to sideline" ability has been reduced recently to "hash mark to hash mark". It's not the biggest surprise to me.

gtown
03-11-2010, 04:36 PM
Curiouser and Curiouser...


McClain, Spikes, or Chaney in the draft. Morrison or Jackson if we want to give up a draft pick for them. Haggan moving inside so Ayers can start outside. Larsen or Woodyard getting promoted. Any of those could justify this move, but its strange that the cut occurs before any of those have happened.

Besides the promotion of Woodyard and Larsen, all of the other options could really help this team. I wait with baited breath.

ayjackson
03-11-2010, 04:42 PM
I think there's a CBA in place. No cap, but a CBA no?

RonDaChamp24
03-11-2010, 04:43 PM
Larsen is our starting fullback. I really doubt they are moving him to ILB.

Hillis could be our starting FB and Larsen could be our starting SILB. I don't see it though. I love Larsen, and got his autograph last year, but I think he may be just as slow if not slower than Andra Davis. I think we're looking for the same power as Davis (or stronger) and definitely faster. I just hope it's not Mcclain.

TheDave
03-11-2010, 04:51 PM
Who was the poster that claimed that Ayers would be better as a ILB last year?

I've said that a few times... but as of right now I'll bet Haggan is moving inside.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 04:52 PM
I've said that a few times... but as of right now I'll bet Haggan is moving inside.

There was a poster that used logic beyond it so I know it wasn't you.... :sunshine:

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 04:54 PM
I'd be so freaking siked if the Broncos drafted Brandon Spikes... but it won't happen because he's the LBer I want the Broncos to draft... that pretty much means it's never gonnna happen...

long beach bronco
03-11-2010, 04:56 PM
Put Haggan on the inside and sign Joey Porter.

crush17
03-11-2010, 04:57 PM
they drafted Ayers for a reason.

TheDave
03-11-2010, 05:00 PM
There was a poster that used logic beyond it so I know it wasn't you.... :sunshine:

Daaammmnn.... 4321~

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 05:04 PM
they drafted Ayers for a reason.

Yah, as an OLBer/DE type of player.

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 05:05 PM
Put Haggan on the inside and sign Joey Porter.

Just say no to joey... besides, Bmarsh may try to treat him like his girlfriend...

bronco_diesel
03-11-2010, 05:07 PM
I'd be so freaking siked if the Broncos drafted Brandon Spikes... but it won't happen because he's the LBer I want the Broncos to draft... that pretty much means it's never gonnna happen...

siked for spikes!

elsid13
03-11-2010, 05:10 PM
Hillis could be our starting FB and Larsen could be our starting SILB. I don't see it though. I love Larsen, and got his autograph last year, but I think he may be just as slow if not slower than Andra Davis. I think we're looking for the same power as Davis (or stronger) and definitely faster. I just hope it's not Mcclain.

Larson is fast enough to play inside stong backer in 3/4. He has ability to take and shed blocker in the hole and play a strong zone. What he doesn't have the ability to do is play a TE or Back one on one, but in a 3/4 that rarely happens.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 05:18 PM
Daaammmnn.... 4321~

I just made you my bitch :kiss:

BMarsh615
03-11-2010, 05:21 PM
Vic Lombardi did an interview with him after he was cut...

http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=69121

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2010, 05:25 PM
Vic Lombardi did an interview with him after he was cut...

http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=69121

Man... this makes me sad.

Drek
03-11-2010, 06:15 PM
McDaniels comes from the NE school of thought where its better to let a guy go a year early than a year late. This is a move directly along those lines.

Andra Davis was an absolute warrior for this team last year, but the defense's decline in run stopping correlates directly with Davis' decline in play. The guy just doesn't have enough left in the tank to start a 16 game season.

I'm sure he disagrees so we'll give him a shot to find another home, but its a whole lot better giving Larsen, Woodyard, or Haggan a chance to take his place and/or drafting a young guy than bringing Davis back and come week 5 or 6 admitting that he's toast and then trying to find an alternative. That approach left us scrounging to replace both Kern and Hamilton last year and played a huge part in our team's late season collapse.

baja
03-11-2010, 06:17 PM
So what are you guys going to say when they resign him tomorrow?

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2010, 06:20 PM
McDaniels comes from the NE school of thought where its better to let a guy go a year early than a year late. This is a move directly along those lines.

Andra Davis was an absolute warrior for this team last year, but the defense's decline in run stopping correlates directly with Davis' decline in play. The guy just doesn't have enough left in the tank to start a 16 game season.

I'm sure he disagrees so we'll give him a shot to find another home, but its a whole lot better giving Larsen, Woodyard, or Haggan a chance to take his place and/or drafting a young guy than bringing Davis back and come week 5 or 6 admitting that he's toast and then trying to find an alternative. That approach left us scrounging to replace both Kern and Hamilton last year and played a huge part in our team's late season collapse.

He was a great mentor too. Our LB's loved him.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 06:31 PM
So what are you guys going to say when they resign him tomorrow?

My guess is the exact same thing as today. Well this move makes no sense.

montrose
03-11-2010, 06:35 PM
So what are you guys going to say when they resign him tomorrow?

Based on his comments to Lombardi, it doesn't sound as though that's why he's being released.

zdoor
03-11-2010, 06:43 PM
they drafted Ayers for a reason.

Agree. Hopefully this speaks to what they are seeing from Ayers. They would not cut him without a plan though. Without a cap and in his last year, the only thing that makes sense is that they feel they have a better option.

Ramathorn
03-11-2010, 06:52 PM
I don't agree with this move at all.

Ditto. Davis was very good.

oubronco
03-11-2010, 06:57 PM
He was the best ILB we had, I just don't get this one

broncolife
03-11-2010, 06:58 PM
I think DJ is not satisfied with playing all the lb positions in the 4-3 defense and is now going to begin on the 3-4 defense :)

Drek
03-11-2010, 07:08 PM
So what are you guys going to say when they resign him tomorrow?

That they better have a damn good backup plan in place for when his play declines around mid-season or sooner.

orinjkrush
03-11-2010, 07:14 PM
gotta pick my jaw off the floor. WTF? he graded out as best LB we had?! Why not let him make the team this year? something else must be up. and not just draft. McClain and Spikes may not "be there".

baja
03-11-2010, 07:16 PM
Agree. Hopefully this speaks to what they are seeing from Ayers. They would not cut him without a plan though. Without a cap and in his last year, the only thing that makes sense is that they feel they have a better option.

Maybe it was his turn to play with McD's wewe and he refused???

Lev Vyvanse
03-11-2010, 07:16 PM
gotta pick my jaw off the floor. WTF? he graded out as best LB we had?! Why not let him make the team this year? something else must be up. and not just draft. McClain and Spikes may not "be there".

No he didn't.

baja
03-11-2010, 07:17 PM
That they better have a damn good backup plan in place for when his play declines around mid-season or sooner.

Maybe he is the back up plan and they want to pay him back up money not starter money.

extralife
03-11-2010, 07:21 PM
this makes no sense without something else to back it up. and I mean something outside the team. there's no reason to cut Davis and replace him with his backup like that--that would just objectively make the team worse. he wasn't making a lot of money.

orinjkrush
03-11-2010, 07:22 PM
No he didn't.

according to one site he did:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/cstats.php?tab=by_team&season=2009&teamid=10&stats=d&stype=r&playerid=

oubronco
03-11-2010, 07:23 PM
Maybe he is the back up plan and they want to pay him back up money not starter money.

He was to make $1.56 million in 2010 thats cheap for a starting ILB it'll be interesting to see what McD has up his sleeve

baja
03-11-2010, 07:28 PM
He was to make $1.56 million in 2010 thats cheap for a starting ILB it'll be interesting to see what McD has up his sleeve
Well it could be only one thing then, he was not in the team's plans and out of respect they released him early to catch on with another team.

Lev Vyvanse
03-11-2010, 07:29 PM
according to one site he did:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/cstats.php?tab=by_team&season=2009&teamid=10&stats=d&stype=r&playerid=

So he played as well as Doom? If the grade says so, then I tend to think the process of finding that grade is broken.

TonyR
03-11-2010, 07:30 PM
Maybe one of the Denver Post's intrepid reporters will ask McD or Xanders for an explanation and report it tomorrow. Is that overly optimistic?

orinjkrush
03-11-2010, 07:31 PM
So he played as well as Doom? If the grade says so, then I tend to think the process is broken.

umm, he played BETTER than Doom. especially against the run (according to this site).

SoCalBronco
03-11-2010, 07:38 PM
Bad move.

Popps
03-11-2010, 07:38 PM
I thought Davis had a great first half of the season. But, I honestly don't recall how well he played in the 2nd half. He certainly didn't stand out the way he did in the first. Still, it's a confusing move, on the surface... which is why no one should take this as "the" move.

This was part one of a move. Part two is coming. When we see part two, we'll be able to adequately assess the move as a whole (Or at least try.)

Drek
03-11-2010, 07:40 PM
Maybe he is the back up plan and they want to pay him back up money not starter money.

That works too.

Lev Vyvanse
03-11-2010, 07:41 PM
umm, he played BETTER than Doom. especially against the run (according to this site).

You think Davis is > than Doom?

orinjkrush
03-11-2010, 07:43 PM
You think Davis is > then Doom?

:peace: sure.

point is Davis played well enough to keep. its more than passing strange.

Lev Vyvanse
03-11-2010, 07:44 PM
:peace: sure.

point is Davis played well enough to keep. its more than passing strange.

Those grades are worthless.

Punisher
03-11-2010, 07:45 PM
Start larsen

Kaylore
03-11-2010, 07:46 PM
This is only a bad move if we don't sign or draft someone to replace him. We're talking about a guy who the Browns cut. I mean really.

broncosteven
03-11-2010, 07:54 PM
This is only a bad move if we don't sign or draft someone to replace him. We're talking about a guy who the Browns cut. I mean really.

And was an instant upgrade for us.

I agree with everything else you said. I am not too worried about it yet.

I was more worried about all the moves last year. I hope this is the year they turn the corner and become a true Physical team that can play a full 60 (or more minutes if needed) for 16 (hopefully more) weeks and not fade down the stretch.

It is odd why they cut Kenny and Davis so early though...

BroncoMan4ever
03-11-2010, 07:59 PM
This defense had problems. I didn't think he was one of them.

i agree. of the ILB Davis was the better or he and DJ

Requiem
03-11-2010, 08:04 PM
The grades on the website listed are quite accurate and take into account a lot of things from pass rushing to run stuffing as well as penalties and coverage. Davis by far had the best numbers mainly because Dumervil's rush defense was absolutely horrendous. He was a solid veteran player with little money owed. Unless they plan on drafting an ILB, I don't like this move. I'm not sure if Larsen or Woodyard replace them. Sean Witherspoon here we come.

Lev Vyvanse
03-11-2010, 08:07 PM
The grades on the website listed are quite accurate and take into account a lot of things from pass rushing to run stuffing as well as penalties and coverage. Davis by far had the best numbers mainly because Dumervil's rush defense was absolutely horrendous. He was a solid veteran player with little money owed. Unless they plan on drafting an ILB, I don't like this move. I'm not sure if Larsen or Woodyard replace them. Sean Witherspoon here we come.

So I'll repeat.
Davis > than Doom?

Taco John
03-11-2010, 08:24 PM
So I'll repeat.
Davis > than Doom?

That's far too binary a question. Dumervil isn't a true linebacker. He's a pass rusher. Davis is probably a better all around lineback than Dumervil, but not nearly as effective a pass rusher.

Do you think Doom is better than Davis at stuffing the run? Do you think Doom is better than Davis dropping into a passing lane and covering a zone?

Gutless Drunk
03-11-2010, 08:36 PM
http://twitter.com/josinaanderson

Andra Davis on his release: "I know 'Wink' fought for me"

Lev Vyvanse
03-11-2010, 08:36 PM
That's far too binary a question. Dumervil isn't a true linebacker. He's a pass rusher. Davis is probably a better all around lineback than Dumervil, but not nearly as effective a pass rusher.

Do you think Doom is better than Davis at stuffing the run? Do you think Doom is better than Davis dropping into a passing lane and covering a zone?

Do you think Hillis can kick a field goal? Doom is what he is, but a grade should be a reflection of who is the better player or who has more value on the football field.

Ray Finkle
03-11-2010, 08:42 PM
And was an instant upgrade for us.

I agree with everything else you said. I am not too worried about it yet.

I was more worried about all the moves last year. I hope this is the year they turn the corner and become a true Physical team that can play a full 60 (or more minutes if needed) for 16 (hopefully more) weeks and not fade down the stretch.

It is odd why they cut Kenny and Davis so early though...

gives them a chance to catch on with another team....wonder if it means more playing time for Woodyard and Larsen.

Caveat Lector
03-11-2010, 08:43 PM
And was an instant upgrade for us.

I agree with everything else you said. I am not too worried about it yet.

I was more worried about all the moves last year. I hope this is the year they turn the corner and become a true Physical team that can play a full 60 (or more minutes if needed) for 16 (hopefully more) weeks and not fade down the stretch.

It is odd why they cut Kenny and Davis so early though...

Bob would be an upgrade on Nate Webster...

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 09:18 PM
It would be more understandable if Andra Davis was scheduled to make $4 or $5 million in 2010, or was due a big bonus, but he was only scheduled to make $1.56 million in 2010....peanuts in the NFL these days.

SportinOne
03-11-2010, 09:20 PM
1 million per isn't much at all. How much less is the guy going to take as a backup? Plenty of backups get 1 million per. Even if we draft a guy or make a trade for a guy, how do we replace the depth that he would have given us?

2 thumbs down.

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 09:25 PM
1 million per isn't much at all. How much less is the guy going to take as a backup? Plenty of backups get 1 million per. Even if we draft a guy or make a trade for a guy, how do we replace the depth that he would have given us?

2 thumbs down.

Yep....I think the vet minimum for a player with 9 years in the league is $760,000.

ZONA
03-11-2010, 09:25 PM
Wow... Davis was not a weak point last year. Must be something we don't know. That, or, McD plans on drafting an ILB... or Spencer Larsen has done something incredible.


DING DING DING - We have a winner folks.

This has got to be the reason in my book. That guy is smart and tough and I think he's ready to step up to the challenge.

Baba Booey
03-11-2010, 09:30 PM
Damn. Didn't see this one coming.

jhns
03-11-2010, 09:46 PM
The grades on the website listed are quite accurate and take into account a lot of things from pass rushing to run stuffing as well as penalties and coverage. Davis by far had the best numbers mainly because Dumervil's rush defense was absolutely horrendous. He was a solid veteran player with little money owed. Unless they plan on drafting an ILB, I don't like this move. I'm not sure if Larsen or Woodyard replace them. Sean Witherspoon here we come.

Maybe this should tell you something about the quality of that grading.

Bronco Yoda
03-11-2010, 09:47 PM
I had heard that Hillis and Davis were friends. They should have kept that on the down-low for Davis's sake.

This really was a surprise. I don't get it.

Broncojef
03-11-2010, 09:48 PM
Terrible move...can't figure out what we are doing. Get rid of the guy with heart and character that makes tackles...don't like it at all.

watermock
03-11-2010, 09:54 PM
Look, we lost our OC, DC, and Turner after 1 year, now we have Joshie's brother evaluating talent.

We have zero inside talent. Mario Haggen and DJ? DJ is ok, but he's natural 4-3 OLB.

Doom is a great rusher from the 3-4 but he's not worth the 1-3 tag. Neither is McNeckbeard worth a
#1.

The bait is in Seattle, Allen knows how to wait, he waited for 8 years for Gates and never bailed.

If Tomlinson doesn't sign, I could see the Hornheads putting up their late first for BM.

Why not? Just the bait for Favre.

uplink
03-11-2010, 11:08 PM
wow strange move. I guess it was likely a perception that he couldn't cover so wasn't a 4 down player. Maybe they will bring him back as a situational player, hope so.

HAT
03-11-2010, 11:10 PM
Do you think Hillis can kick a field goal? .

Do you think he can't?????

Hillis could long snap it to himself, get the hold down perfectly AND drill a 65 yarder.

Just sayin'.

Crushisback
03-11-2010, 11:43 PM
Since when did Jamaal charles' B!tch become such a loss?

watermock
03-12-2010, 12:04 AM
Who?

Caveat Lector
03-12-2010, 12:24 AM
wow strange move. I guess it was likely a perception that he couldn't cover so wasn't a 4 down player. Maybe they will bring him back as a situational player, hope so.

The other thing teams talk about these days is if you're not a starter, you gotta be able to contribute on special teams. A roster spot is too precious for a 2 down LB who doesn't do ST. Same reason Derrick Brooks is still looking for a job...

OBF1
03-12-2010, 01:29 AM
http://twitter.com/josinaanderson

Denver is bringing back long time Bronco favorite Ian Gold to replace Andra Davis.

There you have it, close thread :)

UberBroncoMan
03-12-2010, 01:43 AM
I just hope Andra Davis isn't a KC Chief tomorrow.

watermock
03-12-2010, 02:26 AM
Gawd.

We now have Twiter idiot.

McBeavis is fail.

The Broncos are looking like the Raiders.

watermock
03-12-2010, 02:35 AM
That site is fake, right?

I can't believe this team has sunk so low.

The Joker
03-12-2010, 03:37 AM
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7127/snrub0bc.jpg

*Blah blah blah blah blah blah*



Interesting points, and well made.

There is plenty of reason for concern over this move, Josh McPissfactory better know what he's doing or moves like this could really set us back.

watermock
03-12-2010, 04:11 AM
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03-12-2010, 04:24 AM
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rastaman
03-12-2010, 04:47 AM
they thanked him for last season and felt he did not have another year in him or maybe they want to resign him at less money.

Ummmmmm........what's Bowlen going to do with all that saved---MONEY!;)

rastaman
03-12-2010, 04:54 AM
Gawd.

We now have Twiter idiot.

McBeavis is fail.

The Broncos are looking like the Raiders.

McDisaster is trying his damndest to turn the Broncos into the Detroit Lions of the Rocky Mountains!;)

Keep Tinkering McDufus......Keep Tinkering. It will take time to Bring-Down a once proud Franchise.

See Ya back in NE in two years at your old spot as OC! :~ohyah!:

TonyR
03-12-2010, 06:44 AM
For all that went wrong during the Broncos' 2-8 finish, nothing bothered coach Josh McDaniels and Xanders more than their defense surrendering a combined 558 yards rushing yards against AFC West rivals Oakland and Kansas City in the final two home games.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_14656709#ixzz0hyBLYPNK


Something tells me that games tapes showed Davis was a major factor in the run D collapse.

oubronco
03-12-2010, 06:49 AM
For all that went wrong during the Broncos' 2-8 finish, nothing bothered coach Josh McDaniels and Xanders more than their defense surrendering a combined 558 yards rushing yards against AFC West rivals Oakland and Kansas City in the final two home games.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_14656709#ixzz0hyBLYPNK


Something tells me that games tapes showed Davis was a major factor in the run D collapse.

well at least they are looking at the tapes and addressing the problems now it's time for the offensive line

TonyR
03-12-2010, 07:00 AM
Hard to fathom why we would release a guy who combined for 90 tackles last year. Most definitely seems odd.

LOL You mean the way we let Jamie Winborn go after 2008? He led the team with 99 total tackles. Marquand Manuel was 3rd with 83, Nate Webster 4th with 76, and Dre Bly 5th with 62. If only we had kept those guys based on tackle statistics. You people crack me up.

sixtimeseight
03-12-2010, 07:11 AM
Yea, you'd think the owner of a football message board would know better than to judge linebackers off of tackle numbers, but here we are...

DenverBrit
03-12-2010, 08:01 AM
It's that new DC, McPoopyPants hired.

Just because he was the linebacker coach last year, he thinks he knows what he's doing.

Cito Pelon
03-12-2010, 08:54 AM
Not a big deal. Davis himself said it was a sign of respect he was cut fast so he had time to look for another team. Face it, Davis is at the end of his productive days.

Sure, it's rolling the dice a little bit, but you gotta have faith.

Larsen from what I've seen can compete for the ILB spot. Seems to have good short range speed, sure tackler, good instincts. Haggan, as noted above is an option at ILB.

The rolling the dice comes from only 9 LB's on the roster right now, and 5 of them are maybe a little iffy to be starters.

Atkins, Baraka OLB/DE 6' 4" 268 25 4th Miami FA-'10
56 Ayers, Robert OLB/DE 6' 3" 274 24 2nd Tennessee D1b- '09
92 Dumervil, Elvis OLB/DE 5' 11" 248 26 5th Louisville D4b-'06
94 Moss, Jarvis OLB/DE 6' 7" 257 25 4th Florida D1- '07
57 Haggan, Mario OLB/DE 6' 3" 267 29 8th Mississippi State FA- '08
46 Larsen, Spencer ILB/FB 6' 2" 243 25 3rd Arizona D6- '08
95 Reid, Darrell OLB/DE 6' 2" 270 27 6th Minnesota UFA (Ind)-'09
55 Williams, D.J. ILB 6' 1" 242 27 7th Miami (Fla.) D1- '04
59 Woodyard, Wesley ILB 6' 0" 222 23 3rd Kentucky CFA- '08

Obviously Denver needs to find some good LB's. Adding to the DL will hopefully help that poor run D late last year, but better LB's will help also. It's still a rebuilding process, and boy the LB's need to be addressed.

DBroncos4life
03-12-2010, 08:57 AM
Not a big deal. Davis himself said it was a sign of respect he was cut fast so he had time to look for another team. Face it, Davis is at the end of his productive days.

Sure, it's rolling the dice a little bit, but you gotta have faith.

Larsen from what I've seen can compete for the ILB spot. Seems to have good short range speed, sure tackler, good instincts. Haggan, as noted above is an option at ILB.

The rolling the dice comes from only 9 LB's on the roster right now, and 5 of them are maybe a little iffy to be starters.

Atkins, Baraka OLB/DE 6' 4" 268 25 4th Miami FA-'10
56 Ayers, Robert OLB/DE 6' 3" 274 24 2nd Tennessee D1b- '09
92 Dumervil, Elvis OLB/DE 5' 11" 248 26 5th Louisville D4b-'06
94 Moss, Jarvis OLB/DE 6' 7" 257 25 4th Florida D1- '07
57 Haggan, Mario OLB/DE 6' 3" 267 29 8th Mississippi State FA- '08
46 Larsen, Spencer ILB/FB 6' 2" 243 25 3rd Arizona D6- '08
95 Reid, Darrell OLB/DE 6' 2" 270 27 6th Minnesota UFA (Ind)-'09
55 Williams, D.J. ILB 6' 1" 242 27 7th Miami (Fla.) D1- '04
59 Woodyard, Wesley ILB 6' 0" 222 23 3rd Kentucky CFA- '08

Obviously Denver needs to find some good LB's. Adding to the DL will hopefully help that poor run D late last year, but better LB's will help also. It's still a rebuilding process, and boy the LB's need to be addressed.

LB's will be addressed next year. :)

cmhargrove
03-12-2010, 09:23 AM
LB's will be addressed next year. :)

LB has a learning curve for sure, but historically it's still a highly productive position for rookies. Find the right guy in the draft, and he could be ready to roll week one.

DBroncos4life
03-12-2010, 09:26 AM
LB has a learning curve for sure, but historically it's still a highly productive position for rookies. Find the right guy in the draft, and he could be ready to roll week one.

I was just joking about how we went DB heavy in the first year and now we are going DL heavy this year. You're right though it only takes drafting the right LB to have a huge impact. More often then not a LB will win the DROY.

jhat01
03-12-2010, 09:31 AM
McDisaster is trying his damndest to turn the Broncos into the Detroit Lions of the Rocky Mountains!;)

Keep Tinkering McDufus......Keep Tinkering. It will take time to Bring-Down a once proud Franchise.

See Ya back in NE in two years at your old spot as OC! :~ohyah!:

What a clown. You and Mock are peas in a rotten ass pod.

Cito Pelon
03-12-2010, 09:39 AM
LB's will be addressed next year. :)

Ah, they'll make some moves to shore up the LB corps. Certainly need to. Hard to say how some of the newer guys already on the roster will stand up. Just gotta wait and see, as boring as that is.

ColoradoBuff
03-12-2010, 09:47 AM
we need another good ILB or 2 this year! McClain or Weatherspoon!

Rabb
03-12-2010, 09:47 AM
What a clown. You and Mock are peas in a rotten ass pod.

agree

rasta is worse though, I really can't fathom why he comes here

it has to be solely to irritate people, because he ****ing sucks otherwise

Mock is just stupid

Cito Pelon
03-12-2010, 09:47 AM
LB has a learning curve for sure, but historically it's still a highly productive position for rookies. Find the right guy in the draft, and he could be ready to roll week one.

Yup.

Requiem
03-12-2010, 09:48 AM
Sean Weatherspoon. LIKE A BOSS.

Br0nc0Buster
03-12-2010, 09:48 AM
for the record I highly doubt we spend a first day pick on a linebacker

ColoradoBuff
03-12-2010, 09:50 AM
Sean Weatherspoon. LIKE A BOSS.

I'm starting to think unless we trade down a few spots.....that Weatherspoon is our pick!

Smiling Assassin27
03-12-2010, 09:59 AM
as long as we upgrade, i'm fine. surely the guy wasn't all-world and being the cream of the crap is nothing to write home about. the guy was a nice sparkplug, but mcd's raising the bar and making moves to get to that standard. bringing in a retread would make this move questionable, but i think we make a play for a top shelf LB in the draft.


ETA: or make a trade for a big name LB with Marshall and/or Scheff as bait.

Chris
03-12-2010, 10:36 AM
Mcdaniels has figured out a way to clone Al Wilson and accelerate his growth 5 fold so that he becomes Al Wilson the 3-4 version.

oubronco
03-12-2010, 11:11 AM
Not a big deal. Davis himself said it was a sign of respect he was cut fast so he had time to look for another team. Face it, Davis is at the end of his productive days.

Sure, it's rolling the dice a little bit, but you gotta have faith.

Larsen from what I've seen can compete for the ILB spot. Seems to have good short range speed, sure tackler, good instincts. Haggan, as noted above is an option at ILB.

The rolling the dice comes from only 9 LB's on the roster right now, and 5 of them are maybe a little iffy to be starters.

Atkins, Baraka OLB/DE 6' 4" 268 25 4th Miami FA-'10
56 Ayers, Robert OLB/DE 6' 3" 274 24 2nd Tennessee D1b- '09
92 Dumervil, Elvis OLB/DE 5' 11" 248 26 5th Louisville D4b-'06
94 Moss, Jarvis OLB/DE 6' 7" 257 25 4th Florida D1- '07
57 Haggan, Mario OLB/DE 6' 3" 267 29 8th Mississippi State FA- '08
46 Larsen, Spencer ILB/FB 6' 2" 243 25 3rd Arizona D6- '08
95 Reid, Darrell OLB/DE 6' 2" 270 27 6th Minnesota UFA (Ind)-'09
55 Williams, D.J. ILB 6' 1" 242 27 7th Miami (Fla.) D1- '04
59 Woodyard, Wesley ILB 6' 0" 222 23 3rd Kentucky CFA- '08

Obviously Denver needs to find some good LB's. Adding to the DL will hopefully help that poor run D late last year, but better LB's will help also. It's still a rebuilding process, and boy the LB's need to be addressed.

how is moss still on the team?

s0phr0syne
03-12-2010, 11:26 AM
WTF, last year is a draft weak in DBs and McD went after 3.

This year is a class weak in ILBs, and you guys are predicting that that's where McD should be looking in the draft?

Tombstone RJ
03-12-2010, 02:28 PM
WTF, last year is a draft weak in DBs and McD went after 3.

This year is a class weak in ILBs, and you guys are predicting that that's where McD should be looking in the draft?

Spikes/McClain alone make this a ligit class for ILB. Sean Lee is also supposed to be a great prospect per Mike Mayock.

Taco John
03-12-2010, 02:39 PM
I'm starting to think unless we trade down a few spots.....that Weatherspoon is our pick!

I still wouldn't rule out McClain. McDaniels has 'Bama roots.

Bigdawg26
03-12-2010, 03:01 PM
Sean Weatherspoon. LIKE A BOSS.

You mean Weatherspoon and this Boss???
http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/bossbailey_ankle.jpg

dbfan21
03-17-2010, 09:34 AM
Andra Davis signed on with the Bills...guess we won't be bringing him back at a cheaper rate.

Linebacker Andra Davis wasted little time in free agency by signing a two-year contract with the Buffalo Bills on Tuesday.

The deal was reached during Davis' visit to the Bills headquarters, five days after the player was released by the Denver Broncos. Financial terms were not disclosed.

"Very excited. I'm glad this process if over with," said Davis, who will be a candidate to start at one of two middle linebacker spots in Buffalo's new 3-4 defense. "I feel good, man, just ready to go."

Listed at 6-foot-1 and 250 pounds, Davis is an eight-year NFL veteran who was credited with 90 tackles in each of his last two seasons. He also had a career-best 3 sacks last year.

Rather than questioning why he was released by the Broncos, Davis prefers looking ahead.

"I know I did my best in Denver and can look myself in the mirror knowing that," Davis said. "I know I have a lot left in my tank."

He spent his first seven seasons with Cleveland, the last six as a starter after the Browns selected him in the fifth round of the 2002 draft out of Florida. Davis has 12 sacks in 96 starts and appeared in 121 career games

In Buffalo, Davis is reunited with new Bills defensive coordinator George Edwards, who served as the Browns linebackers coach in 2004.

Davis credited Edwards' presence as a key reason he signed with the Bills.

"He was a huge factor. Not only do I know him, but he knows me and the type of player I am," Davis said.

Davis becomes the second significant player the Bills have signed since the NFL's free-agency period opened on March 5. He has the potential to fill a key need on a defense will rely heavily on its linebacking corps under the new scheme being installed by first-year head coach Chan Gailey.

Davis has played in the 3-4 defense in each of his past four seasons. He'll compete with returning linebackers Paul Posluszny and Kawika Mitchell to start.

His signing is also considered insurance if Aaron Schobel elects to retire this offseason. Schobel, a defensive end who could play linebacker, has not made up his mind on whether to return for a 10th season.