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BMarsh615
03-11-2010, 11:09 AM
But I couldn't find a good place to put it.

According to sources, Cincinnati QB Tony Pike and WR Mardy Gilyard conducted a private workout for the Broncos this morning.

https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/10333104388

cmhargrove
03-11-2010, 11:10 AM
If this isn't from Josina, I just don't trust it...

outdoor_miner
03-11-2010, 11:13 AM
If this isn't from Josina, I just don't trust it...

!Booya!

CEH
03-11-2010, 11:13 AM
On the heels of a strong showing at the University of Cincinnati Pro Day, the Denver Broncos wanted to see more from quarterback Tony Pike and wide receiver Mardy Gilyard.

The Broncos conducted a private workout for the Bearcats' tandem this morning, according to sources with knowledge of the sitiuation.

We've been told that the Broncos sent offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and quarterbacks coach Ben McDaniels to the workout.

Pike reportedly had a good throwing session during Wednesday's workout session that was attended by 26 NFL teams, including San Francisco 49ers coach Mike Singletary.

And Gilyard improved his 40-yard dash time to 4.47 seconds after clocking a disappointing 4.56 time at the NFL scouting combine.

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I feel alot better now that I know Ben McDaniels was there

outdoor_miner
03-11-2010, 11:14 AM
If this isn't from Josina, I just don't trust it...

http://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson

RT @RavensInsider: According to sources, Cincinnati QB Tony Pike and WR Mardy Gilyard conducted a private workout for the Broncos this morn.

Rest easy, my friend. We have confirmation.

Beantown Bronco
03-11-2010, 11:16 AM
http://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson



Rest easy, my friend. We have confirmation.

Waaaay too many vowels to be a legit Josina tweet.

misturanderson
03-11-2010, 11:19 AM
But I couldn't find a good place to put it.



https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/10333104388

I'm glad to hear that. If Gilyard is still available in the 2nd he could be worth picking up depending on who else is available, and he would be a steal in the 3rd.

I also really like Pike's game and I don't feel like it would take too much work to get him to put on the extra 10-15 lbs. of muscle that he needs to hold up to NFL punishment. Other than his light weight, he doesn't have too many holes in his game and his injury history is blown WAY out of proportion. Broken bones are rarely cause for long-term injury concerns, especially since he got the plate removed last year. I would take him possibly in the 3rd and definitely in the 4th. He would be my 1st choice for a QB outside of the 1st round.

WolfpackGuy
03-11-2010, 11:21 AM
I like Gilyard. He's a playmaker.

bronco militia
03-11-2010, 11:21 AM
I only saw Pike play in the sugar bowl and I was not impressed....

for those who saw him play more, what did you think?

Jerry Curl
03-11-2010, 11:23 AM
I like Gilyard. He's a playmaker.
I would love to see him here...

Smiling Assassin27
03-11-2010, 11:27 AM
I like Gilyard. He's a playmaker.

With a guy like Gilyard, we could let Eddie Royal focus on the WR position and Alphonso Smith focus on actually living up to his potential.

ColoradoBuff
03-11-2010, 11:33 AM
Gilyard will most likely be around in the 3rd-4th rounds.

gyldenlove
03-11-2010, 11:42 AM
With a guy like Gilyard, we could let Eddie Royal focus on the WR position and Alphonso Smith focus on actually living up to his potential.

More importantly we could finally move Royal to the slot where he can do some damage.

misturanderson
03-11-2010, 11:59 AM
I only saw Pike play in the sugar bowl and I was not impressed....

for those who saw him play more, what did you think?

One game that really stands out to me, despite limited action, was his first game back from having the plate in his arm removed against West Virginia. He was only taking snaps in the red zone and went 2-4 for 2 TDs. He should have been 2-2, but on his 2nd trip to the red zone the receiver dropped a pass that hit him in the hands and then on the next play he had to throw it away, he followed that with his 2nd TD. I liked the guts, accuracy and decision making that he showed in those limited plays.

I also liked the way he played in the final game of the season against Pitt for the big east title. He wasn't playing well in the 1st half at all, he had 3 picks if memory serves and Cinci was losing pretty badly (31-17 at halftime). He got it together in the 2nd half and just went off. He made 3 TD passes and a 2-pt. conversion in the 2nd half to lead his team to a 44-43 win. Being able to change the momentum of a game, especially on such a big stage, was something that really impressed me. He (with a lot of help from Gilyard) brought his team back from almost certain defeat to complete the perfect regular season and win the big east title.

His performance in the sugar bowl was absolute crap, but so was his entire team's. Cincinatti tore it up in the big east, but against the 2nd best team in the SEC they were completely outmatched physically. That game also came after their head coach missed their end of year banquet and at that time announced that he was leaving immediately to coach Notre Dame. That couldn't have helped their chemistry or their preparation.

Requiem
03-11-2010, 12:34 PM
Love the idea of getting Gilyard, he had another solid time at his pro day and believe he is a true playmaker at the next level from returning the ball to receiving.

Pike has interesting potential, but durability is a concern. He has some mechanical errors that will need to be worked on as well. I know I'm a nitpick, but I don't want another 24 year old rookie quarterback. Yuck.

dbfan21
03-11-2010, 12:37 PM
More importantly we could finally move Royal to the slot where he can do some damage.

Exactly!!!

ayjackson
03-11-2010, 01:08 PM
Exactly!!!


Wouldn't Gilyard project to a slot receiver too? They (Gilyard/Royal) seem too similar to me. I'd rather see Carlton Mitchell in the third and Decker or the Easley in the sixth.

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 01:24 PM
Tony Pike or Mardy Gilyard in the 2nd round would be alright in my book.

I like other QBs more, but Pike is a good prospect.

My biggest knock on him is that he is brittle and needs to put on a little weight.

Rohirrim
03-11-2010, 01:28 PM
Guess it was "Two skinniest guys in the draft day." :rofl:

worm
03-11-2010, 02:14 PM
Do not like him at all. I would be surprised if he is ever more than a spot starter at the next level.

Misturanderson and I have disagreed about him before. I saw every game that he cited above for why he likes him. However, the game that made more of an impression on me was against the Bulls. I truly think he would have lost that game (unless he got uber lucky like the Pitt game)...but Collaros came in and the O rallied. In fact, I liked the Cincinnati offense better in general with Zach in there. Even when they platooned.

Besides being skinny and tall as a....wait for it....pike! I just don't see him as having 'it'...despite the Pitt rally. I get that 'it' feeling much more from watching LeFevour.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 02:48 PM
Mardy Gilyard!!! Please make it so!

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 03:30 PM
On the heels of a strong showing at the University of Cincinnati Pro Day, the Denver Broncos wanted to see more from quarterback Tony Pike and wide receiver Mardy Gilyard.

Great, now if Rutgers is on the schedule next we will be ready.......

jhns
03-11-2010, 04:43 PM
They put something about this in the ESPN rumors section.


Broncos like Pike?

The Denver Broncos seem pretty well set with Kyle Orton handling the quarterbacking duties, at least for 2010. But they're also being linked to the likes of Jake Delhomme, Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn, so what gives? Well, when Orton went down last season, and Chris Simms was forced into action, the result was ridiculously bad, and we say that with no exaggeration.

If they don't decide that they like any of the free agent or trade options, they can always use the draft to bring in a worthy backup who could take over for Orton, who will be a free agent following 2010. One option is Cincinnati's Tony Pike, and Aaron Wilson of National Football Post reported that Pike and Cincy WR Mardy Gilyard held a "private workout" for the Broncos on Thursday. This goes above and beyond the usual pro days at which prospects show themselves off, and it could mean that the Broncos really, really like one of the two (or both). Probably not enough for the first round, but certainly in Round 2 or later.

Keep an eye on this one.

elsid13
03-11-2010, 05:14 PM
Love the idea of getting Gilyard, he had another solid time at his pro day and believe he is a true playmaker at the next level from returning the ball to receiving.

Pike has interesting potential, but durability is a concern. He has some mechanical errors that will need to be worked on as well. I know I'm a nitpick, but I don't want another 24 year old rookie quarterback. Yuck.

I actually don't like either of them. I think Gilyard is going to struggle against press coverage and he run lazy routes. Meanwhile I think Pike doesn't have the accuracy to throw inside the numbers in the NFL.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 05:27 PM
I actually don't like either of them. I think Gilyard is going to struggle against press coverage and he run lazy routes. Meanwhile I think Pike doesn't have the accuracy to throw inside the numbers in the NFL.

I doubt it. He might struggle from time to time....

Mardy Gilyard – Cincinnati

Scout: David Syvertsen

Height/Weight: 6’0/187

40 Time:

Pro Potential: Nate Burleson – Seattle Seahawks

Position Traits

Acceleration/Burst/Quickness: High effort with his early steps. Can stop and go well, can reach top speed with his first few steps. Appears to be faster than he is because of how quick he moves on the field.

Agility/Leaping Ability: Incredibly agile, very loose from the hips on down. Can adjust his body with ease when leaping for the ball. Appears to struggle with body control at times but he makes plays with his body in awkward positions with consistency.

Blocking: Does not get a strong push and defensive backs can get off him easily. But the effort downfield to throw that extra block to spring a back free in to the open field is always there. Team player.

Body Control/Body Adjustment: His ability to adjust at the very last second to the placement of the ball is perhaps the most impressive part of his game. Fully capable of turning his body 180 degrees at full speed and keeping his feet. Nimble body never seems to be fully balanced, but he somehow keeps his feet under him.

Concentration/Hands: Sees the ball in every time. Does not always catch the ball with his hands, likes to trap it with his body too often. Has shown the tendency to drop easy passes. Likes to start moving before he has control of the ball. Eyes remain on an even keel when moving at full speed.

Release: Uses his quickness to avoid the jam. But if a good press corner can get their hands on him, Gilyard will have to fight for too long to free himself up. Can make himself small and slippery.

Route Running: Did not consistently run a diverse route tree at Cincinnati, but he showed he can get open with his ability to cut on a dime. Tricks defensive backs with his head fakes and double moves. Loose lower half allows him to really sell a fake.

Separation: Can free himself from a lone defender with ease. Very good change of direction and sells his fakes well. Struggles to get open downfield because of a lack of top end speed. Could turn out to be a move-the-chains target.

Size/Length/Hand Size: Very thin frame, especially his lower half. Average length and hand size. Does not need to add a lot of weight, but he could use some more strength coming from his base.

Speed: Does not have the extra gear in space, can be caught from behind by defensive backs. Does play fast when he needs to though. Can set a cover man up by adjusting his speed downfield. Deceptive.

Vision/Run After the Catch: Can see lanes and blocks transpire before they occur. Outstanding with the ball in his hands. Breaks a lot of tackles not based on power, but the ability to alter his body at the last second. Can make himself small and slippery to tacklers.

Final Word: After a troubled past and a rough start to his career at Cincinnati that started off as a defensive back and suspension due to academic shortfalls, Gilyard broke out in 2008 as a dynamic playmaker that could do it all with the ball in his hands. His reputation coming in to the league will revolve around his ability to return kicks and punts to the house (5 TDs over the past 2 seasons) but unlike many other return specialists, Gilyard’s promise as a receiver is very high. Despite the lack of top end speed, Gilyard is a threat down the field because of his ability to make the difficult catch with a cover man draped all over him. He will do most of his damage as a short and intermediate receiving option because he can find the tight windows and make those tough catches. Once he has the ball in his hands, all bets are off as he will prove to be a threat to score every time. He has an awkward running motion and will need to strengthen his lower half before he is fully ready to contribute every down, but the intangibles are there and he is a free spirit that loves the game. He will likely be a 2nd-3rd rounder that pays immediate dividends as a returner and offers the upside as a complimentary receiver in the future.

http://www.newerascouting.com/02/mardy-gilyard-scouting-report/

gyldenlove
03-11-2010, 05:36 PM
Wouldn't Gilyard project to a slot receiver too? They (Gilyard/Royal) seem too similar to me. I'd rather see Carlton Mitchell in the third and Decker or the Easley in the sixth.

Gilyard could definitely function on the outside in the mold of a Deion Branch or Santonio Holmes, running deep and medium routes.