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Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 09:32 AM
Tebow posts below average 'Wonderlic' score:

Wow Bradford with a 36

The question is do you really think it makes a difference?

Former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow impressed the NFL coaches and scouts with his workouts at the NFL Combine two weeks ago. But he apparently didn't fare as well in the cerebral part of the Combine — the notorious Wonderlic intelligence test.
According to NFL sources, Tebow scored slightly below the quarterback average on the test, posting a score of 22. Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford scored a 36 on the test, while Texas quarterback Colt McCoy had a 25.

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20100310/ARTICLES/100319925/1136?Title=Report-Tebow-posts-below-average-Wonderlic-score

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 09:34 AM
Clady scored low on the wonderlic, yet...

StugotsIII
03-11-2010, 09:37 AM
The average score for a QB is 20.

Tebow got a 22.

How is that below average?

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 09:38 AM
Clady scored low on the wonderlic, yet...

Clady's not under center :)

gyldenlove
03-11-2010, 09:39 AM
The average score for a QB is 20.

Tebow got a 22.

How is that below average?

No, it is 24 or 25 depending on the year.

orinjkrush
03-11-2010, 09:40 AM
didn't BGriese max it out?

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 09:40 AM
The average score for a QB is 20.

Tebow got a 22.

How is that below average?

Among current starting quarterbacks in the NFL, the average score on the Wonderlic was 30.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-11-2010, 09:43 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4CJu7eEsdfQ/SxHOnUAT4dI/AAAAAAAAD4A/rF7sBqoYZ9g/s1600/tebowPhil413.jpg

I am shocked. Surely nobody saw this coming.

Traveler
03-11-2010, 09:43 AM
Former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow impressed the NFL coaches and scouts with his workouts at the NFL Combine two weeks ago.

Tebow worked out at the Combine?

bronco militia
03-11-2010, 09:45 AM
a list of future, current and past QB's

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/wonderlic-scores-of-2010-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-and-339905.html

TailgateNut
03-11-2010, 09:46 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4cju7eesdfq/sxhonuat4di/aaaaaaaad4a/rf7sbqoyz9g/s1600/tebowphil413.jpg

i am shocked. Surely nobody saw this coming.

^5

Rabb
03-11-2010, 09:47 AM
Tebow worked out at the Combine?

limited yes, 40, vertical, crap like that

no throwing

Rabb
03-11-2010, 09:49 AM
from ESPN

To put those scores in perspective, the Post compared Wonderlic numbers of run-of-the-mill NFL quarterbacks such as Alex Smith (40) and Matt Leinart (35) to those of Pro Football Hall of Famers Dan Marino and Jim Kelly (both 15) and an established star such as Donovan McNabb (14)

bowtown
03-11-2010, 09:50 AM
[B]The question is do you really think it makes a difference?


No, he's still as bad an NFL prospect as he was before he took the test.

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 09:52 AM
Bradford with a 36 that's impressive, I wish we could make that happen.....

Doggcow
03-11-2010, 09:54 AM
Elway: 29, Brees/Manning 28...

Shows how big of a deal 30+ really is.

bowtown
03-11-2010, 09:55 AM
Elway: 29, Brees/Manning 28...

Shows how big of a deal 30+ really is.

Yeah and I also heard he dislocated his shoulder 4 times while taking it.

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 10:00 AM
I heard Ben Roethlisberger thought the Wonderlic was a sexual position......

Cool Breeze
03-11-2010, 10:01 AM
Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen a 23
Not a rocket scientist either

bowtown
03-11-2010, 10:03 AM
Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen a 23
Not a rocket scientist either

Yeah but he got a 100% on the Wonderprick test.

Doggcow
03-11-2010, 10:04 AM
I heard Ben Roethlisberger thought the Wonderlic was a sexual position......

Bahahaha

baja
03-11-2010, 10:04 AM
Clady scored low on the wonderlic, yet...

He doesn't have the demands on his intellect that a QB does.

baja
03-11-2010, 10:06 AM
Elway: 29, Brees/Manning 28...

Shows how big of a deal 30+ really is.

Brian Griese got a 48.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-11-2010, 10:08 AM
Yeah but he got a 100% on the Wonderprick test.

http://siliconangle.com/travisrodgersnow/wp-content/blogs.dir/4/files/HLIC/e7ef1c38a98464355ce8579e84842739.jpg

Say what?

Paladin
03-11-2010, 10:09 AM
I wonder. Are there pots in here calling the kettler black? Or something like that?

Next time I need to know at what temperture water freezes, I will remember to ask one of you geniouses.....

_Oro_
03-11-2010, 10:10 AM
Dan Marino and Jim Kelly (both 15)

I don't think they studied for it back then (of course that's just a guess). Now it's all part of the pre-combine regime. So a 22 now looks way worse considering you've
most likely had private tutors teaching exactly what you need to know to pass the test.

Arkansas Bronco
03-11-2010, 10:16 AM
I wonder. Are there pots in here calling the kettler black? Or something like that?

Next time I need to know at what temperture water freezes, I will remember to ask one of you geniouses.....

Geez everyone knows water doesnt freeze till it's zero.

DenverBrit
03-11-2010, 10:17 AM
I'm surprised Tebow's score was that high.

dbfan4life
03-11-2010, 10:18 AM
Geez everyone knows water doesnt freeze till it's zero.

Sub zero! 8')

sisterhellfyre
03-11-2010, 10:18 AM
Geez everyone knows water doesnt freeze till it's zero.

Huh. All this time I thought it boiled at 373°. Go figure...

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 10:28 AM
He doesn't have the demands on his intellect that a QB does.

Some posters here were scared that Clady wasn't smart enough to learn the complicated ZBS and all the audibles, etc. My point is that the wonderlic doesn't necessarily translate to football acumen and knowing the game and executing assigments. It's a basic intelligence test yes, but it doesn't necessarily reflect someone's capacity to play football at a high level.

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 10:32 AM
Dan Marino and Jim Kelly (both 15)
I Don't think they studied for it back then (of course that's just a guess). Now it's all part of the pre-combine regime. So a 22 now looks way worse considering you've
most likely had private tutors teaching exactly what you need to know to pass the test.

Hummm, maybe that's why they don't have Super Bowl wins......

crush17
03-11-2010, 10:32 AM
You guys are cracking me up today!!

gyldenlove
03-11-2010, 10:43 AM
Some posters here were scared that Clady wasn't smart enough to learn the complicated ZBS and all the audibles, etc. My point is that the wonderlic doesn't necessarily translate to football acumen and knowing the game and executing assigments. It's a basic intelligence test yes, but it doesn't necessarily reflect someone's capacity to play football at a high level.

Vince Youngs epic fail at the Wonderlic indicates that stupid people do not make good QBs.

Tombstone RJ
03-11-2010, 10:45 AM
Vince Youngs epic fail at the Wonderlic indicates that stupid people do not make good QBs.

Isn't he the starting QB for the Titans?

LonghornBronco
03-11-2010, 10:47 AM
I think they also picked up his option and are paying him 11mil this season. So, I think Fisher thinks he's a good QB.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-11-2010, 10:47 AM
Vince Youngs epic fail at the Wonderlic indicates that stupid people do not make good QBs.

Vince Young's score means Vince Young is illiterate.

HorseHead
03-11-2010, 11:05 AM
I would like to "Wonderlic" Tebow's girlfriend...

baja
03-11-2010, 11:07 AM
Some posters here were scared that Clady wasn't smart enough to learn the complicated ZBS and all the audibles, etc. My point is that the wonderlic doesn't necessarily translate to football acumen and knowing the game and executing assigments. It's a basic intelligence test yes, but it doesn't necessarily reflect someone's capacity to play football at a high level.

Given the science that the draft is becoming why would they not devise a test that is more reflective of a player's ability to be coached and learn?

Mountain Bronco
03-11-2010, 12:36 PM
There were no religious questions on the test.

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 12:41 PM
Tim Tebow's Wonderlic score would not concern me at all.

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 12:43 PM
I would like to "Wonderlic" Tebow's girlfriend...

The famous pic that everyone assumes is his girlfriend, is not actually his girlfriend.

Swedish Extrovert
03-11-2010, 12:45 PM
Tebow just doesn't come off as that intelligent. I hope the Broncos don't make a move for him... those scriptures on his eye black will get so annoying.

Then John Kitna pulled something like that a while back and the league told him to stop.

dbfan21
03-11-2010, 12:45 PM
i heard ben roethlisberger thought the wonderlic was a sexual position......

rofl!

Rabb
03-11-2010, 12:49 PM
Hummm, maybe that's why they don't have Super Bowl wins......

yeah I know, they were horrible

bowtown
03-11-2010, 12:50 PM
Tim Tebow's Wonderlic score would not concern me at all.

Exactly, there are too many other things about Tebow to be concerned about... for example, the fact that he sucks at throwing a football.

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 12:56 PM
yeah I know, they were horrible

Just, funnin with ya........I would take either one and be shickled titless.....

Rabb
03-11-2010, 12:58 PM
Just, funnin with ya........I would take either one and be shickled titless.....

oh yeah I know, I was adding to the funnin ^5

DHallblows
03-11-2010, 01:39 PM
a list of future, current and past QB's

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/wonderlic-scores-of-2010-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-and-339905.html

"Terry Bradshaw 15"

Absolutely shocking ROFL!

DHallblows
03-11-2010, 01:40 PM
Huh. All this time I thought it boiled at 373°. Go figure...

And not to be "That Guy" but Kelvin isn't a degree...so you actually are wrong :clown:
:twokisses

Doggcow
03-11-2010, 01:41 PM
Exactly, there are too many other things about Tebow to be concerned about... for example, the fact that he sucks at throwing a football.

You're not concerned with his ability to win, I mean, isn't that far and away the most important thing? Oh wait...

bronco militia
03-11-2010, 01:49 PM
"Terry Bradshaw 15"

Absolutely shocking ROFL!

Mike Vick 20...what's your point? :wave:

DHallblows
03-11-2010, 01:52 PM
Mike Vick 20...what's your point? :wave:

...that Terry Bradshaw is dumb. Seemed like an obvious point to me...

Man-Goblin
03-11-2010, 01:55 PM
I heard Ben Roethlisberger thought the Wonderlic was a sexual position......

How many times can Ben Roethlisberger not wonderlic a girl?

WABronco
03-11-2010, 01:56 PM
Tim Tebow's Wonderlic: Pro-choice's new ad campaign.

TailgateNut
03-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Tim Tebow's Wonderlic: Pro-choice's new ad campaign.

:rofl:

colonelbeef
03-11-2010, 02:07 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4CJu7eEsdfQ/SxHOnUAT4dI/AAAAAAAAD4A/rF7sBqoYZ9g/s1600/tebowPhil413.jpg

I am shocked. Surely nobody saw this coming.

haha

bowtown
03-11-2010, 02:18 PM
You're not concerned with his ability to win, I mean, isn't that far and away the most important thing? Oh wait...

Yes I am very concerned with his ability to win at an NFL level if he doesn't know how to throw a football.

woodall
03-11-2010, 02:20 PM
Tebow just doesn't come off as that intelligent. I hope the Broncos don't make a move for him... those scriptures on his eye black will get so annoying.

In general, fundamentalist Christians don't come off as that intelligent when you consider their beliefs about the age of our planet, their literalist interpretations of the bible, etc.....

bronco militia
03-11-2010, 02:24 PM
In general, fundamentalist Christians don't come off as that intelligent when you consider their beliefs about the age of our planet, their literalist interpretations of the bible, etc.....

Ha!

what a tool!

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 02:25 PM
In general, fundamentalist Christians don't come off as that intelligent when you consider their beliefs about the age of our planet, their literalist interpretations of the bible, etc.....

Another fun thread hijacked again..........

bowtown
03-11-2010, 02:28 PM
Oh crap...

Swedish Extrovert
03-11-2010, 02:38 PM
Well it's true....

woodall
03-11-2010, 02:39 PM
Ha!

what a tool!

The truth hurts......

Br0nc0Buster
03-11-2010, 02:40 PM
in before McSkillet claims this thread violates his rights

OABB
03-11-2010, 02:44 PM
his mother should have aborted him.

Dedhed
03-11-2010, 02:49 PM
I doubt this is the last time "Tebow" and "Below average" are mentioned together during his NFL career.

Popps
03-11-2010, 02:57 PM
Anyone have a link to more first round Wonderlic scores?

We've got a pool going at work. (Seriously.)

bowtown
03-11-2010, 03:10 PM
Anyone have a link to more first round Wonderlic scores?

We've got a pool going at work. (Seriously.)

No, but I do know that Hillis was the only player in history to score a negative number on it... they are still unsure how though.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2010, 03:17 PM
Brian Griese got a 48.

Griese scored 39. Ryan Fitzpatrick scored a 48 and Alex Smith scored a 40.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/gators/tim-tebow-scores-below-average-on-nfls-wonderlic-339371.html?imw=Y

Pony Boy
03-11-2010, 03:24 PM
Sample Test
http://walterfootball.com/draftwonderlic.php

barryr
03-11-2010, 03:30 PM
I'm sure we could find someone with a ton of degrees, but can the guy play football? Do I care if a football player can't answer a question about "if this train is traveling at 85mph...?" Who the hell cares and what does that have to do with football? Ask the guy football questions and see if he can answer those. Next, we'll see which prospects can do laundry the best to see if they can make a good football player.

baja
03-11-2010, 04:51 PM
I'm sure we could find someone with a ton of degrees, but can the guy play football? Do I care if a football player can't answer a question about "if this train is traveling at 85mph...?" Who the hell cares and what does that have to do with football? Ask the guy football questions and see if he can answer those. Next, we'll see which prospects can do laundry the best to see if they can make a good football player.

You're just pissed because you scored a 7

KipCorrington25
03-11-2010, 06:27 PM
http://siliconangle.com/travisrodgersnow/wp-content/blogs.dir/4/files/HLIC/e7ef1c38a98464355ce8579e84842739.jpg

Say what?

Wow, Brady Quinn even thinks that's gay. :twokisses

wolverine
03-11-2010, 06:46 PM
No surprise. Anyone that bible-thumpy can't be that smart.

SouthStndJunkie
03-11-2010, 06:56 PM
http://siliconangle.com/travisrodgersnow/wp-content/blogs.dir/4/files/HLIC/e7ef1c38a98464355ce8579e84842739.jpg

Say what?

What is it with these Notre Dame QBs?

That is almost as bad as any pic out there of Brady Quinn.

Jimmy Clausen should be docked 3 Wonderlic points for even thinking of wearing that.

Swedish Extrovert
03-11-2010, 07:01 PM
What is it with these Notre Dame QBs?

That is almost as bad as any pic out there of Brady Quinn.

Jimmy Clausen should be docked 3 Wonderlic points for even thinking of wearing that.

It is a Catholic school...

Dedhed
03-11-2010, 07:27 PM
Sample Test
http://walterfootball.com/draftwonderlic.php

If that's really indicative, football players are DUMB.

TexanBob
03-11-2010, 07:51 PM
There's such an animal as a "gym rat" that spends all day working to make themselves a better player (think Larry Bird). Those guys won't score well on aptitude tests but you'd sure want them on your team. All you have to do is watch Peyton Manning for an entire game with all the audibles he makes at the line to know the guy knows his **** as a football QB and that's what he's paid to do - read and execute.

Dempsey Dog
03-11-2010, 08:17 PM
The paradox of the NFL...it loves SEC players but just three SEC (http://huskersgameday.com/tag/sec/) schools are cited among the top 80 universities in U.S. News & World Report’s 2009 college rankings, while all 11 members of the Big Ten (http://huskersgameday.com/tag/big-ten/) were in the top 80.

ColoradoDarin
03-11-2010, 08:38 PM
while all 11 members of the Big Ten were in the top 80.

but they still can't count....

alkemical
08-24-2011, 12:41 PM
tebow4life!

Rabb
08-24-2011, 12:42 PM
alrighty, I think this about does it for me boys and girls...go Broncos, here's to a great 2011 season

out

Agamemnon
08-24-2011, 01:35 PM
Tebow is dyslexic, so a score of 22 is probably quite good.

Oh and Marino got one of lowest Wonderlic scores of all time, so yeah...

Agamemnon
08-24-2011, 01:36 PM
If that's really indicative, football players are DUMB.

The term "dumb jock" didn't just come from nowhere.

OABB
08-24-2011, 01:38 PM
his mother should have aborted him.

damn tebowites!

Rock Chalk
08-24-2011, 03:09 PM
You're not concerned with his ability to win, I mean, isn't that far and away the most important thing? Oh wait...

Vince Young was a winner in college too.

TheReverend
08-24-2011, 03:10 PM
Vince Young was a winner in college too.

Only you gargled HIS balls. ;)

Teboner
08-24-2011, 03:11 PM
It's only because he was studying the bible for the test.

Rock Chalk
08-24-2011, 03:12 PM
Only you gargled HIS balls. ;)

Thats not how I recall it.

I would have rather had Young than Cutler is all.

And I just as quickly bashed him for his mistakes and criticized him for his weakness as an NFL QB.

But hey, remember it how you want to.

TailgateNut
08-24-2011, 03:16 PM
This thread is pure gold!

It's akin to the Bush voters swearing they didn't vote for Bush.

Rock Chalk
08-24-2011, 03:17 PM
This thread is pure gold!

It's akin to the Bush voters swearing they didn't vote for Bush.

I voted for Bush.

Twice.

And if he could run again Id vote for him over that piece of **** idiot that makes Bush look like a genius thats in there now.

TheDave
08-24-2011, 03:21 PM
I don't think I will ever stop hating on Josh McDaniels...:tearhair:

Ugly Duck
08-25-2011, 01:00 AM
The average score for a QB is 20.

Tebow got a 22.

How is that below average?

Because the average score for QBs is 24. Look up "Wonderlic" on Wikipedia: "Quarterback – 24 (Most teams want at least 21 for a quarterback.)"

Terrel Pryor scored an above-average 27.... interesting to see if he picks up the pro game quicker than Tebow....

StugotsIII
08-25-2011, 01:15 AM
Because the average score for QBs is 24. Look up "Wonderlic" on Wikipedia: "Quarterback – 24 (Most teams want at least 21 for a quarterback.)"

Terrel Pryor scored an above-average 27.... interesting to see if he picks up the pro game quicker than Tebow....

Interesting score for Pryor. Do you have a link?


Pryor made a ton of mistakes off the field, however he was a good student at OSU and in HS.

The Moops
08-25-2011, 06:00 AM
Nope. Brian Griese scored high

Man-Goblin
08-25-2011, 06:26 AM
I like my QBs like I like my women; big, dumb, and mobile.

Ugly Duck
08-25-2011, 08:32 AM
Interesting score for Pryor. Do you have a link?

I can't find any confirmation about Pryor's Wonderlic score (he took the test on his Pro Day). Justa buncha posters posting it on the net. I believe I shall unpost my post til I find out if its bogus....

Dr. Broncenstein
08-25-2011, 08:33 AM
I like my QBs like I like my women; big, dumb, and mobile.

Trailer bangers.

Tombstone RJ
08-25-2011, 09:45 AM
My recollection of McD wanting Tebow is because Tebow impressed him so much with his football acumen. That is, the chalkboard stuff and understanding plays was no problem for Tebow. That being said, it was a spread offense that McD ran, but nevertheless, I seriously doubt that McD would have taken Tebow so high if he didn't think he had the mental capacity to play QB at a high level in the NFL.

alkemical
08-25-2011, 09:45 AM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1wlVzzCEq59vZloFgb9m8RbiD6mCw3 jQMqeDbRSXlQUzvMhxmmA