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BroncoMan4ever
03-08-2010, 04:05 AM
So far Marshall has drawn interest from at least Seattle with supposedly a dozen total teams thinking about bringing him in to their franchise. But there has been absolutely no word Doom. Not even talk about other teams thinking about bringing him in for visits. Does this mean Denver is already in the process of giving him a long term deal and Doom is just ignoring the other teams calling for him to visit, or is there no interest in him?

Tomeboy58801
03-08-2010, 04:23 AM
With a first and third round tender, I do not think any team will touch him right now.

chrisp
03-08-2010, 05:55 AM
With a first and third round tender, I do not think any team will touch him right now.

Not only is it a prohibitive tender, it is also a sign that the team does not want to lose him so is more likely to try and match any offer. Not sure if there's any chance of him being signed to a long-term deal or not but of all our RFAs he's probably the only guy with a chance.

BroncoMan4ever
03-08-2010, 06:28 AM
regardless of the tender, you would think at least 1 team in the league would have a meeting scheduled with the guy. or news about interest would have come out by now. but there is nothing.

17 sacks in a single season, the ability to play and excel in both a 4-3 and 3-4, age, personality, team mentality. regardless of tender a team would at least consider making a move for the guy.

it just seems like there are 2 potential scenarios going on. either Doom and Denver are in the middle of talks and Doom is not taking any meetings with anyone else, taking a wait and see approach with contract talks in Denver.

or

nobody in the league has ANY interest at all in the league's reigning league leader in sacks


which seems most likely?

chrisp
03-08-2010, 06:37 AM
regardless of the tender, you would think at least 1 team in the league would have a meeting scheduled with the guy. or news about interest would have come out by now. but there is nothing.

17 sacks in a single season, the ability to play and excel in both a 4-3 and 3-4, age, personality, team mentality. regardless of tender a team would at least consider making a move for the guy.

it just seems like there are 2 potential scenarios going on. either Doom and Denver are in the middle of talks and Doom is not taking any meetings with anyone else, taking a wait and see approach with contract talks in Denver.

or

nobody in the league has ANY interest at all in the league's reigning league leader in sacks


which seems most likely?

I think teams know - on the unofficial press/agent grapevine - when a player is available for the right price and when he's not. No-one wants to waste time meeting with a player they are never going to get, and teams know that even if they DO sign him, Denver will likely match.

The Joker
03-08-2010, 06:41 AM
I think teams know - on the unofficial press/agent grapevine - when a player is available for the right price and when he's not. No-one wants to waste time meeting with a player they are never going to get, and teams know that even if they DO sign him, Denver will likely match.

Pretty much.

Also, the only teams that have to think twice about making a move for Doom ar teams that run a 3-4. He's a 3rd down pass rush specialist in a 4-3, and you just don't give up the picks and contract it would take to get him for a situational player.

So that's about 70% of the league that are out of the thought process before it even begins.

barryr
03-08-2010, 07:01 AM
Dumervil got a lot of sacks, but he also disappeared for long stretches in most games too, so stats can be misleading.

ant1999e
03-08-2010, 08:11 AM
Teams know the refs are gonna let the o-line hold him all day so that hurts his value.

TheDave
03-08-2010, 08:24 AM
For what ever reason the NFL significantly over values draft picks... Look at the Jared allen trade. A 1st (brandon albert) and 2 3rds. For the past couple of seasons the vikings have had one of the best Dlines in the game and the chefs have gone 10-38 since the trade.

JMO but I would always go for a proven player over draft picks... especially top 10 high priced draft picks.

Garcia Bronco
03-08-2010, 08:30 AM
Probably Haiti

uplink
03-08-2010, 06:03 PM
teams won't bite since he only had one big time year, if it was more then he'd be gone.

BroncoMan4ever
03-08-2010, 09:59 PM
Dumervil got a lot of sacks, but he also disappeared for long stretches in most games too, so stats can be misleading.

that describes Julius Peppers entire career and he just this weekend got 42million guaranteed. with 5 years more wear and tear on him

BroncoMan4ever
03-08-2010, 10:05 PM
teams won't bite since he only had one big time year, if it was more then he'd be gone.

1 big year?

since he came into the league he has been one of the best at reaching the QB and even if you take away last seasons total, he was still averaging more than 8 sacks a season

Kaylore
03-08-2010, 11:29 PM
regardless of the tender, you would think at least 1 team in the league would have a meeting scheduled with the guy.

No they wouldn't. Why waste the time? No one is going to even think about matching that, especially before a likely lockout.

chrisp
03-09-2010, 07:10 AM
For what ever reason the NFL significantly over values draft picks... Look at the Jared allen trade. A 1st (brandon albert) and 2 3rds. For the past couple of seasons the vikings have had one of the best Dlines in the game and the chefs have gone 10-38 since the trade.

JMO but I would always go for a proven player over draft picks... especially top 10 high priced draft picks.

That's something that really gets me scratching my head....the trade value of draft picks and the money 1st-round rookies get.

The thing that's even more crazy is that the GMs and owners who are responsible for inflating the value are the ones who complain most about it!

The only thing is, even 'proven' players aren't a dead cert - look at the cutler trade - the Bears GM obviously thought a 'proven' Qb was worth two firsts, and it cost him his job. I suppose at the end of the day a draft pick can either meet, exceed or fall short of expectations, where as free agents typically tend to either meet or fall short of them, there isn't the same upside.

So maybe all of that has something to do with it but it still perplexes me....

bloodsunday
03-09-2010, 07:35 AM
For what ever reason the NFL significantly over values draft picks... Look at the Jared allen trade. A 1st (brandon albert) and 2 3rds. For the past couple of seasons the vikings have had one of the best Dlines in the game and the chefs have gone 10-38 since the trade.

JMO but I would always go for a proven player over draft picks... especially top 10 high priced draft picks.

Same point I was making about BMarsh yesterday. This is a great post. If there were a rookie salary cap, I might change my stance. But as it is today, you are often paying as much or more for these young guys than you would a guy like BMarsh or Doom. That said, I do think in Doom's case Denver has made it clear that they aren't letting him go and that's probably scaring teams off.

Doggcow
03-09-2010, 09:21 AM
Teams know the refs are gonna let the o-line hold him all day so that hurts his value.

Bahahhaa, sucks, cuz it's true.

I bet if he played for New York he would get holding calls though.

Flex Gunmetal
03-09-2010, 01:06 PM
teams won't bite since he only had one big time year, if it was more then he'd be gone.

Do you know he's averaged 10 sacks a year since he was drafted?