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strafen
02-28-2010, 11:36 PM
“ My dream is to be an NFL quarterback and I'm going to do whatever it takes to do that. If I'm asked to do something else, I'll do it, because it's always team first.”
-- Tim Tebow

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4951434

Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- Tim Tebow was the first big-name quarterback to take the NFL's stage Friday.

He's hoping the draft goes down the same way.

The man with one Heisman Trophy, two national titles and may be the most intriguing pro prospect since Michael Vick, came to the league's annual scouting combine with a new look he hopes will improve his draft stock.

"It's not necessarily changing the whole [throwing] motion, it's where I'm holding the ball," Tebow said. "I'm holding it higher and not having that loop in there. My release point isn't different at all."

The combine seems like old hat for Tebow, too.

He walked to the podium with that charismatic smile and trademark personality, then was introduced as "Some guy named Tebow is at podium C." A few moments later, a reporter asked Tebow to autograph a notebook.

But this week is not about impressing the media or his loyal fans.

Nope, Tebow needs to wow the scouts who think it could take up to two years for him to make the transition from combination college quarterback to prototypical pocket passer. Others argue his success in college, his passion for the game and his work ethic will make the transition easier than it now appears.

Tebow, as usual, has tossed aside conventional wisdom in an effort to show NFL executives what kind of player he is.

"I talked to a lot of different quarterbacks coaches and a lot of people who said 'Wait till after the draft [to change the motion],'" Tebow said. "But I'm not afraid of what anybody thinks. If I need to change it, then I'm going to do it now."

NFL executives will then have two months to make a decision about where Tebow fits into this year's draft.

In the meantime, those people will scramble to answer questions about the other high-profile quarterbacks presumably ahead of Tebow on this year's draft boards.

Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen is still recovering from toe surgery. Oklahoma's Sam Bradford, the 2008 Heisman winner, missed all but three games last season with a shoulder injury. Texas' Colt McCoy couldn't finish the national championship game because of an injury to his throwing arm.

All three missed their scheduled media interviews Friday, which in past years has been an indication that players are undergoing additional medical checks. NFL officials could not confirm that happened Friday, saying only that the quarterbacks had "other obligations."

None of the big four, including Tebow, are expected to throw until their pro days next month. Tebow is the only one, so far, who has indicated he will do any of the drills this week.

"You'd love to see them work out here, but for a quarterback this is not the greatest environment," said general manager Billy Devaney, whose Rams have the No. 1 pick in April. "They're out there throwing to receivers they've never thrown to before, they're throwing routes they maybe haven't thrown in college. It's hard to get into a groove when you throw three balls and go to the end of the line and then throw three more."

Trying to make projections is even tougher for talent evaluators because of how different the offenses are.

Clausen played in a prostyle system under Charlie Weis at Notre Dame, which some think give him an advantage. Cleveland's Brady Quinn came out of the same system and still hasn't lived up to the expectations.

McCoy and Bradford played in predominantly passing programs in the high-scoring Big 12, which have translated into mixed results in the NFL.

Tebow rarely played under center at Florida and built his reputation as much on running as passing, something he knows must change against the bigger, stronger, faster players in the NFL.

Who is the best?

Opinions vary.

Oklahoma tight end Jermaine Gresham and Texas receiver Jordan Shipley each cast votes for the guys they played with in college. Reports have indicated the Rams favor Bradford over Clausen, though Devaney denied that Friday.

And coaches and scouts are still trying to sort things out.

To those looking for a quarterback in the first round, San Francisco general manager Scot McCloughan offers some advice after seeing Alex Smith, the top overall pick in 2005, finally emerge as the player the 49ers expected in 2009.

"If you're going to take a spread quarterback, know that that's what he's used to," McCloughan said. "The reason you're drafting him is because he's been a good football player. Don't completely change what he's done in the past that's made him successful."

Tebow isn't changing everything.

He insists the only real difference is that he's shortened his throwing motion to get rid of the ball quicker -- and he hopes get himself back on the podium come April 22.

"I know wherever I go and whoever drafts me is going to get someone who gives everything to the team, who leaves everything on the field every day," he said. "My dream is to be an NFL quarterback and I'm going to do whatever it takes to do that. If I'm asked to do something else, I'll do it, because it's always team first."


Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
I still think he's going to be a great QB in the NFL.
Mechanics are easy to correct. Most rookie QB's go thru a couple of years if not less to develop anyway, I think Tebow will be able to overcome his mechanic issues as he seems to be determined to do that...

Dagmar
02-28-2010, 11:54 PM
I still think he's going to be a great QB in the NFL.
Mechanics are easy to correct. Most rookie QB's go thru a couple of years if not less to develop anyway, I think Tebow will be able to overcome his mechanic issues as he seems to be determined to do that...

I think the guy is going to be one or the other, excellent QB or huge bust, I cannot see a middle ground. Good luck to him.

The Joker
03-01-2010, 04:10 AM
If we trade Marshall for a late 1st/early 2nd, I wouldn't be upset if we used the pick to get Tebow.

McDaniels can coach the hell out of QB's, and you have to love the intangibles that Tebow has.

With Orton likely here for at least another year, there'd be no immediate pressure on Tebow to come in and start, which I think will be important for him.

I don't think he gets by the Jags in Round 2.

Drek
03-01-2010, 04:10 AM
I still think he's going to be a great QB in the NFL.
Mechanics are easy to correct. Most rookie QB's go thru a couple of years if not less to develop anyway, I think Tebow will be able to overcome his mechanic issues as he seems to be determined to do that...

McDaniels did some work to tighten up Orton's throwing motion last year as well which showed some good results.

I think there is a real good shot we draft him. Going by last year's draft Mayock and McDaniels seem to view prospects the same way, and Mayock thinks Tebow would be a great fit here.

If he's there in the second I wouldn't be surprised at all if we jump on him. Especially if we're carrying extra picks from losing guys like Marshall or Scheffler.

extralife
03-01-2010, 04:28 AM
yeah, lets draft a guy that is doing a complete overhaul of his throwing motion right before entering the nfl. a guy that plays quarterback by running up the gut like a fullback. the guy doesn't do anything at an NFL level. people get wrapped up in him because he won games in college, he can run (note: he absolutely will not be able to run effectively in the NFL), and he's a boy scout. these traits combined will earn you a whole lot of nothing in the NFL.

WolfpackGuy
03-01-2010, 05:00 AM
He might have potential for gimmick plays or for another position altogether as a LATER round pick.

Anybody that drafts Tebow to be a starting QB is crazy.

ColoradoDarin
03-01-2010, 06:50 AM
Things I hate about Tebow:
Throwing motion that he's trying to correct

Things I love about Tebow:
Leadership
Accountability
Work Ethic
Winner
Athleticism


I don't think we've ever had a QB coming out that has the intangibles that Tebow has. If he can change a few of his mechanics and get that down, he's going to be one heck of a winner in the NFL. He's not going to be Marino/Manning type, but if you don't think that he could a team to hell and back you're crazy. I wouldn't take him at 11, but if he's there at our 2nd round I'd take a chance on him.

want2bAbronco2
03-01-2010, 07:49 AM
I would usually say no way to draft someone that cant throw/changing motion. But if anyone can make it work and will put in the time to do it (16hr days etc..) its Teabow.
I would Take him in the 3rd but I think he will go in the 2nd. dont want him there unless we get 2-3 NT/C/WR/CB in FA.

oubronco
03-01-2010, 07:51 AM
Things I hate about Tebow:
Throwing motion that he's trying to correct

Things I love about Tebow:
Leadership
Accountability
Work Ethic
Winner
Athleticism


I don't think we've ever had a QB coming out that has the intangibles that Tebow has. If he can change a few of his mechanics and get that down, he's going to be one heck of a winner in the NFL. He's not going to be Marino/Manning type, but if you don't think that he could a team to hell and back you're crazy. I wouldn't take him at 11, but if he's there at our 2nd round I'd take a chance on him.


then screw it cause thats what you look for in a QB

TheDave
03-01-2010, 08:00 AM
No way McKidd drafts him, unless he falls to the 3rd round or below... Even then, that's only if we have extra picks from a trade. Problem is, Tebow will take at least 2-3 years to develop and our coach knows he won't be here in 2 years unless he wins now. With a weak FA class, we need all the help from the draft we can get.

ColoradoDarin
03-01-2010, 08:04 AM
then screw it cause thats what you look for in a QB

And how many Championships do they have between them?

Are you sure that's what you look for in a QB?

Play2win
03-01-2010, 08:16 AM
If we get him, and in a couple of years we have a ROCK of an offensive line, I would think he could really win a bunch of games in McD's system.

Rohirrim
03-01-2010, 08:23 AM
Tebow could run 2k in our system.




He'd have to, if he wants to survive.

Cosmo
03-01-2010, 09:05 AM
Mayock and company made a very good remark at the combine about Tebow. They said when Byron Leftwich came out, he had the exact same motion as Tebow, had no intention of correcting it and no one talked about his motion to the level that Tebow is getting.

Now, granted, I think Leftwich does suck, but I think very little has to do with his throwing motion and just he sucks in general.

Just to name a couple more with bad throwing motions coming out of college:

Rivers, Rodgers, Farve (early in his career).

Will Tebow be able to adapt? I think its 50:50. Changing the motion is doable, but does he revert back to his full swing under pressure situations, can he learn to play under center with 3, 5, 7 step drops? Tebow should go in the top of the third round. Anyone that takes him in the second is in love with him way too much.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-01-2010, 09:12 AM
I hope he pulls a Rocky and comes out throwing righty on his Pro Day

Tombstone RJ
03-01-2010, 09:15 AM
Mayock and company made a very good remark at the combine about Tebow. They said when Byron Leftwich came out, he had the exact same motion as Tebow, had no intention of correcting it and no one talked about his motion to the level that Tebow is getting.

Now, granted, I think Leftwich does suck, but I think very little has to do with his throwing motion and just he sucks in general.

Just to name a couple more with bad throwing motions coming out of college:

Rivers, Rodgers, Farve (early in his career).

Will Tebow be able to adapt? I think its 50:50. Changing the motion is doable, but does he revert back to his full swing under pressure situations, can he learn to play under center with 3, 5, 7 step drops? Tebow should go in the top of the third round. Anyone that takes him in the second is in love with him way too much.


Nice points. I also heard on NFLN that Tebow tried to change his throwing motion at UF under Meyer's direction but he just couldn't make any changes last, he always reverted back to his old ways.

In Meyer's defense, why force it when you are winning with Tebow?

Now Tebow has the time to really concentrate on his throwing motion, his feet, accuracy, his hands, where his eyes need to be, etc. He's not gonna walk onto an NFL team and take the starting job. However, given some time to work on his mechanics and learn a new system, he can be a ligitimate starting NFL QB within a year or two.

I'd be very suprised if the Broncos take Tebow in the second round.

strafen
03-01-2010, 09:20 AM
There's no question Tebow is an enigma.
People who think he won't make it in the NFL has the same chance of being right as those who think he'll make it.
That said, I decided to ignore most of the negative stuff being said, because I believe those negatives are correctable.
The guy has tremendous athletic abilities, great heart, and a great attitude. You can work with that.
His throwing motion is not what really concerns me. It's the fact that his lack of playing time under center and the drop back as mentioned, that could be a problem for him.
His willingness to work on that is a big plus.

At the end of the day, Tebow success will depend on the system he gets to play in...

Tombstone RJ
03-01-2010, 09:30 AM
There's no question Tebow is an enigma.
People who think he won't make it in the NFL has the same chance of being right as those who think he'll make it.
That said, I decided to ignore most of the negative stuff being said, because I believe those negatives are correctable.
The guy has tremendous athletic abilities, great heart, and a great attitude. You can work with that.
His throwing motion is not what really concerns me. It's the fact that his lack of playing time under center and the drop back as mentioned, that could be a problem for him.
His willingness to work on that is a big plus.

At the end of the day, Tebow success will depend on the system he gets to play in...

I seriously think Jacksonville will draft Tebow. I don't know why I think this, but I do...

strafen
03-01-2010, 09:33 AM
I seriously think Jacksonville will draft Tebow. I don't know why I think this, but I do...He's a local player.
From the business standpoint, it will be a huge financial boost for Jacksonville.
In fact, there will be a lot of pressure on the Jaguars to draft him...

gyldenlove
03-01-2010, 09:37 AM
Things I hate about Tebow:
Throwing motion that he's trying to correct

Things I love about Tebow:
Leadership
Accountability
Work Ethic
Winner
Athleticism


I don't think we've ever had a QB coming out that has the intangibles that Tebow has. If he can change a few of his mechanics and get that down, he's going to be one heck of a winner in the NFL. He's not going to be Marino/Manning type, but if you don't think that he could a team to hell and back you're crazy. I wouldn't take him at 11, but if he's there at our 2nd round I'd take a chance on him.

If his work ethic is really that good, how come he didn't fix his throwing motion during the 4 years in college? They even hired a pro style QB coach for him and he still didn't change it. I don't like this kid, he is being protrayed as a saint because of his missionary work and his leadership, but I honestly don't believe that he is all that, he could have changed his motion earlier.

strafen
03-01-2010, 09:46 AM
If his work ethic is really that good, how come he didn't fix his throwing motion during the 4 years in college? They even hired a pro style QB coach for him and he still didn't change it. I don't like this kid, he is being protrayed as a saint because of his missionary work and his leadership, but I honestly don't believe that he is all that, he could have changed his motion earlier.I think his work ethics are good. His personality traits and how he's being portrayed are pluses, not negatives.

I do however agree with you in the sense that why did they let him go thru his college career without proper coaching of his mechanical issues?
I have been asking myself that question.
You figure somebody should've looked out for his best interest.

Pony Boy
03-01-2010, 10:14 AM
Fills the stadium at Jacksonville................

Br0nc0Buster
03-01-2010, 10:21 AM
I imagine this is the most hype Tebow will ever get
come draft day I will be surprised if he is taken before the 3rd
Its possible since Miami spent a 2nd on Pat White, but that pick was incredibly stupid

He was a great college player, but I really dont understand how his talent translates into a starting caliber qb
His armstrength is not impressive
His mechanics are horrible
He is not a pocket passer

I really like the prospects of Brandstater over someone like Tebow

gyldenlove
03-01-2010, 10:35 AM
I think his work ethics are good. His personality traits and how he's being portrayed are pluses, not negatives.

I do however agree with you in the sense that why did they let him go thru his college career without proper coaching of his mechanical issues?
I have been asking myself that question.
You figure somebody should've looked out for his best interest.

What bothers is me that Tebow and Urban Meyer have both said that it wasn't for lack of coaching at Florida, but if it wasn't lack of coaching then it is lack of ability - but if it is lack of ability, why is he succeeding now in a few short months in what he apparently couldn't do in 4 years? That to me leaves 2 possible explanations:
1. Tebow isn't as hard a worker as he has been made out to be.
2. Tebow is lying to protect his former head coach.

bowtown
03-01-2010, 10:38 AM
Tebow won't be drafted. Period. Remember you heard it here first.

strafen
03-01-2010, 10:43 AM
What bothers is me that Tebow and Urban Meyer have both said that it wasn't for lack of coaching at Florida, but if it wasn't lack of coaching then it is lack of ability - but if it is lack of ability, why is he succeeding now in a few short months in what he apparently couldn't do in 4 years? That to me leaves 2 possible explanations:
1. Tebow isn't as hard a worker as he has been made out to be.
2. Tebow is lying to protect his former head coach.

You've gotta understand a college program like Florida.
There's a lot of pressure to win.
I may try to speculate and say if they ever thought about working on his mechanics that they thought the risk was too high and opted to ignore it at the expense of keeping a winning program.
Know what I mean?

bowtown
03-01-2010, 10:45 AM
You've gotta understand a college program like Florida.
There's a lot of pressure to win.
I may try to speculate and say if they ever thought about working on his mechanics that they thought the risk was too high and opted to ignore it at the expense of keeping a winning program.
Know what I mean?

You also have to understand that Florida is a winning program with an all star cast around the QB. No one would even be talking about Tebow as a serious prospect right now if he had played for a lesser program.

He is CFL bound.

gyldenlove
03-01-2010, 10:47 AM
You've gotta understand a college program like Florida.
There's a lot of pressure to win.
I may try to speculate and say if they ever thought about working on his mechanics that they thought the risk was too high and opted to ignore it at the expense of keeping a winning program.
Know what I mean?

I think that is what happened, but then why has both Meyer and Tebow said that they did work on his throwing motion and it is a fact that they hired a pro style QB coach a year ago specifically for Tebow.

If he is just a liar trying to protect his college coach because he will never have that level of success again, that is fine, but a big warning light to me, if you lie to your prospective employer to protect your former employer your allegiance is in the wrong place.

Rohirrim
03-01-2010, 10:49 AM
I think J'Ville has to draft Tebow. If they don't start selling tickets they're going to either fold or find a new city to play in.

Dagmar
03-01-2010, 11:00 AM
I think J'Ville has to draft Tebow. If they don't start selling tickets they're going to either fold or find a new city to play in.

This exactly.

coachmastermind
03-01-2010, 11:18 AM
Mooch said it best yesterday at the combine, "this is all a crap shoot anyway, but if you're going to take a shot on somebody. I'd take it on a guy with his work ethic and intangibles, rather than some unknown quantity."

There is the business stand point too- he's wildly popular, over half of the coverage of the combine yesterday was on Tebow. The senior bowl practices had so many fans (fans coming out to watch practice) to see Tebow. Owners are going to want a guy like that as the face of their franchise. He doesn't get past the 2nd period... if he does well during his pro day, we'll see if someone takes a stab at him even higher.

I'm not sure I don't want him as the face of the Broncos franchise. Plus, it would be a great PR move by McDaniels, who after a rough first season as far as PR goes could use some help.

Beantown Bronco
03-01-2010, 11:32 AM
Tebow won't be drafted. Period. Remember you heard it here first.

The only logical explanation for this post is that bowtown committed a murder over the weekend and he's trying to bolster his potential insanity defense.

bowtown
03-01-2010, 11:48 AM
The only logical explanation for this post is that bowtown committed a murder over the weekend and he's trying to bolster his potential insanity defense.

LOL. Maybe I should have posted this in the bold predictions thread. So I'm going a little overboard on this one here, but what a genius I will look like if I get it right. I'm going to link to it at the bottom of every post I ever make again if I'm correct.

Yes Tebow will probably get drafted, and probably much higher than he should... which IMO is anywhere above the bottom of the 7th. I just don't see it. Yes, he has intangibles, so did BVP, so do a lot of players coming out of college, he also had a tremedous football team and coaching staff to make him look better than he actually is. And it is NOT pretty easy to fix throwing mechanics or he would have already done it. I think he rides as a second string QB for a couple of years, plays a little during garbage time, and ends up in Canada.

I will not be a happy camper if we draft him.

gtown
03-01-2010, 12:23 PM
I feel bad for Jacksonville. Picking him in the first is a huge reach. But allowing the other 32 teams a shot at him in the first and early second would be risky. Someone is gonna take this guy before the 3rd round on potential and work ethic alone. I bet its a team with an already established QB that can give Tebow time to simmer.

It's gonna take this guy a long time to be ready cause he has a lot of issues. The mechanics have been talked about at length, but what about the wounded duck ball he throws? What about his Vickian instincts to run at the first site of trouble? What about his lack of time in a pro system? The guy has commitment and heart, but that can only get you so far.

Kaylore
03-01-2010, 01:04 PM
Another "intangibles" QB? Pass. Fun to watch in college, but Tebow isn't pro QB material.

gyldenlove
03-01-2010, 02:15 PM
Another "intangibles" QB? Pass. Fun to watch in college, but Tebow isn't pro QB material.

He will be great in the arena league.

strafen
03-01-2010, 05:04 PM
He will be great in the arena league.Should I go out on a limband say he'll be drafted in the 1st round? LOL

Dagmar
03-01-2010, 05:08 PM
Should I go out on a limband say he'll be drafted in the 1st round? LOL

That's not really going out on a limb.

Hamrob
03-01-2010, 06:32 PM
Things I hate about Tebow:
Throwing motion that he's trying to correct

Things I love about Tebow:
Leadership
Accountability
Work Ethic
Winner
Athleticism


I don't think we've ever had a QB coming out that has the intangibles that Tebow has. If he can change a few of his mechanics and get that down, he's going to be one heck of a winner in the NFL. He's not going to be Marino/Manning type, but if you don't think that he could a team to hell and back you're crazy. I wouldn't take him at 11, but if he's there at our 2nd round I'd take a chance on him.It's not good enough to be a good football player at the QB position. There were 10 guys last year that threw for more than 4,000 yds. This is a passers league. You either have to be gifted in spinning the ball or your not going to succeed. The odds are heavily stacked against Tebow.

If we were to draft him....I wouldn't use our 1st or 2nd. I could live with us throwing our 3rd at him if that's what McDaniels wants...similiar to Shanny and that bum OS running back!

Hamrob
03-01-2010, 06:34 PM
I feel bad for Jacksonville. Picking him in the first is a huge reach. But allowing the other 32 teams a shot at him in the first and early second would be risky. Someone is gonna take this guy before the 3rd round on potential and work ethic alone. I bet its a team with an already established QB that can give Tebow time to simmer.

It's gonna take this guy a long time to be ready cause he has a lot of issues. The mechanics have been talked about at length, but what about the wounded duck ball he throws? What about his Vickian instincts to run at the first site of trouble? What about his lack of time in a pro system? The guy has commitment and heart, but that can only get you so far.I think teams would be more interested in Lefeaver than Tebow.

uplink
03-01-2010, 07:42 PM
Question: Does he compare skill wise with that great college QB who came to the NFL and had to switch to a reciever with the Rams? I think he played for Nebraska, but could be wrong. Don't remember his name so I guess that says something right there.

Br0nc0Buster
03-01-2010, 07:47 PM
Question: Does he compare skill wise with that great college QB who came to the NFL and had to switch to a reciever with the Rams? I think he played for Nebraska, but could be wrong. Don't remember his name so I guess that says something right there.

Eric Crouch
Crouch was just a pansy, he was converted to WR because of his speed, but he got hurt in TC I think and then I think they cut him and he was out of the league shortly after

Tebow is a different player than Crouch, Tebow is not as fast as Crouch was, but he is much bigger and much stronger

I think they are similar in that neither of them are able to throw consistently from the pocket

mr007
03-01-2010, 09:25 PM
I'd really prefer not to have a dude that writes freakin biblical verses on his damn eye strips as my starting qb.

GoHAM
03-01-2010, 09:54 PM
First off, I'm not sold on Tebow in the first round. Especially @ 11... WAY TOO HIGH! However, I am of the opinion that Tebow will be a player in the NFL and a pretty good one, if not a great one. This kid has been an overachiever for his whole life. He oozes intangibles the likes of which Eli Manning only wishes he could have. Of course there is always the possibility of Tebow being a little too hokey and over the top for the NFL. His passing flat out sucks. His little gay (no offense intended towards our gay omaners) leg kick on his follow through looks like your best friend's kid sister trying to play football with you.

Still, there is something about him that just makes you want to draft him. He will not save a franchise in his first or second season, and may not develop into anything, but I see him as, a better than Kordell, Slash II for the first couple (3-4) seasons.

I think ultimately it comes down to the classic argument for Elway.

He was the greatest football player ever. Greatest passer ever? No.

Give me a player over a passer anyday.

Tebow will be a player in this league. I'm just not sure if he will ever be a passer.

I would gladly spend a 2nd on him. Maybe even a late first. No higher.

GoHAM
03-01-2010, 09:59 PM
Of course he could always be BVP II as opposed to Slash II.

Xenos
03-01-2010, 11:31 PM
Mayock and company made a very good remark at the combine about Tebow. They said when Byron Leftwich came out, he had the exact same motion as Tebow, had no intention of correcting it and no one talked about his motion to the level that Tebow is getting.

Now, granted, I think Leftwich does suck, but I think very little has to do with his throwing motion and just he sucks in general.

Just to name a couple more with bad throwing motions coming out of college:

Rivers, Rodgers, Farve (early in his career).

Will Tebow be able to adapt? I think its 50:50. Changing the motion is doable, but does he revert back to his full swing under pressure situations, can he learn to play under center with 3, 5, 7 step drops? Tebow should go in the top of the third round. Anyone that takes him in the second is in love with him way too much.
It wasn't so much bad as unusual. It's actually very mechanically sound in how quick the release is. There's no wasted motion at all.

strafen
03-01-2010, 11:42 PM
Of course he could always be BVP II as opposed to Slash II.Man, I would've loved to see BVP get a shot at QB.
He was definitely a fun guy to watch. I wished we had kept him as a backup.

bowtown
03-02-2010, 04:56 AM
First off, I'm not sold on Tebow in the first round. Especially @ 11... WAY TOO HIGH! However, I am of the opinion that Tebow will be a player in the NFL and a pretty good one, if not a great one. This kid has been an overachiever for his whole life. He oozes intangibles the likes of which Eli Manning only wishes he could have. Of course there is always the possibility of Tebow being a little too hokey and over the top for the NFL. His passing flat out sucks. His little gay (no offense intended towards our gay omaners) leg kick on his follow through looks like your best friend's kid sister trying to play football with you.

Still, there is something about him that just makes you want to draft him. He will not save a franchise in his first or second season, and may not develop into anything, but I see him as, a better than Kordell, Slash II for the first couple (3-4) seasons.

I think ultimately it comes down to the classic argument for Elway.

He was the greatest football player ever. Greatest passer ever? No.

Give me a player over a passer anyday.

Tebow will be a player in this league. I'm just not sure if he will ever be a passer.

I would gladly spend a 2nd on him. Maybe even a late first. No higher.

He is certainly one of the top 10 greatest passers ever. Tebow isn't even in the top 500.

bowtown
03-02-2010, 04:59 AM
Man, I would've loved to see BVP get a shot at QB.
He was definitely a fun guy to watch. I wished we had kept him as a backup.

He does. He plays QB in Italy for Eurobowl... whatever the hell that is. There is a reason he never started in the NFL, and it's similar to the reason Tim Tebow won't.

barryr
03-02-2010, 06:14 AM
I also wonder why Urban Meyer didn't try to change his motion if it was that easy a thing to do?

I just don't see Tebow making it as a QB in the NFL. Not successfully at least.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
03-02-2010, 06:24 AM
I'd really prefer not to have a dude that writes freakin biblical verses on his damn eye strips as my starting qb.

You're attacking his religion! Stop it before McSensitivePants gets angry and starts another holy war!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
03-02-2010, 06:26 AM
Man, I would've loved to see BVP get a shot at QB.
He was definitely a fun guy to watch. I wished we had kept him as a backup.

Boy, you just adore below-average quarterbacks who aren't good enough to get a shot, don't ya?

uk bronco
03-02-2010, 07:31 AM
He's a local player.
From the business standpoint, it will be a huge financial boost for Jacksonville.
In fact, there will be a lot of pressure on the Jaguars to draft him...

if they draft him gator nation will sell out every jags game even if its just to see tebow on the bench

strafen
03-02-2010, 08:53 AM
I also wonder why Urban Meyer didn't try to change his motion if it was that easy a thing to do?

I just don't see Tebow making it as a QB in the NFL. Not successfully at least.I don't think they even cared.
Winning was more important for them, apparently...

strafen
03-02-2010, 09:05 AM
if they draft him gator nation will sell out every jags game even if its just to see tebow on the benchYeah, that's why I've said there will be a lot of pressure on the Jags to get him.
Florida has 3 NFL teams and this would be a good thing for the state.

At this point, is too early to tell about Tebow's success in the NFL.
More of the comments I've read here are from people that are relying on the media and what others people are saying.
I usually tend to believe what I see. I do take into consideration the media comments as a guidance to balance my views, but not as the gospel.

It depends on everybody's perception. At the end of the day, all we have left to do is wait and see where Tebow lands and follow his career.
You don't get considerations as one of the best college football players in history and not think you'd get a chance to make it to the NFL.
Of course I'm saying this without guarantee he would make it, but I think he stands a good chance...

Xenos
03-02-2010, 01:44 PM
I also wonder why Urban Meyer didn't try to change his motion if it was that easy a thing to do?

I just don't see Tebow making it as a QB in the NFL. Not successfully at least.

Why fix something that's not broken at the college level? It is in large part due to the HC and his need to win in college. Why else would he have Tebow just take snaps from the shotgun instead of occasionally at center. He basically ruined Tebow's future at the expense at winning in the present.

alkemical
08-24-2011, 01:40 PM
tebow!

Gort
08-24-2011, 01:45 PM
tebow!

stop being a dick. there's no reason to bump these old Tebow threads when you don't have anything to add.

alkemical
08-24-2011, 01:45 PM
300 isn't enough?

let's start some more!

jhns
08-24-2011, 01:48 PM
Don't look noe alkemical, but your whiney drama queen side is showing again...

alkemical
08-24-2011, 01:51 PM
stop being a dick. there's no reason to bump these old Tebow threads when you don't have anything to add.

Oh the irony. I'm willing to bet most people on the OM haven't had anything to "add" in the Orton/Tebow annoying bull****.

Gort
08-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Oh the irony. I'm willing to bet most people on the OM haven't had anything to "add" in the Orton/Tebow annoying bull****.

...so bumping all these old Tebow threads does what exactly to solve that dilemma?

on most forums, that's instantly recognized by moderators as passive-aggressive behavior and grounds for instant banning.

alkemical
08-24-2011, 02:01 PM
...so bumping all these old Tebow threads does what exactly to solve that dilemma?

on most forums, that's instantly recognized by moderators as passive-aggressive behavior and grounds for instant banning.

Cool, take it up with the Mods. otherwise, i don't give a fuuuuck.

jhns
08-24-2011, 02:15 PM
I have never made a Tebow thread you whiney little bitch. You cry about Tebow threads as you bumb a ton for no reason... It is actually impossible for you to get any dumber.

bronco militia
08-24-2011, 02:19 PM
lmao of at Alk...trolling tebow fans

jhns
08-24-2011, 02:22 PM
lmao of at Alk...trolling tebow fans

Actually, he is trolling non Tebow fans. He is crying that Tebow fans make a lot of Tebow threads and trolling by bumping those threads. A page full of Tebow threads is not a good way to try pissing off people that want a lot of Tebow threads...

gunns
08-24-2011, 02:25 PM
stop being a dick. there's no reason to bump these old Tebow threads when you don't have anything to add.

And someone has added anything to the multitude of other Tebow threads? Show me.

Gort
08-24-2011, 02:43 PM
And someone has added anything to the multitude of other Tebow threads? Show me.

sure, there is nothing new to add to the current Tebow threads, but at least they are current. Alki is stamping his feet and throwing a hissy fit and bumping all the old Tebow threads as a way to complain about there being too many current Tebow threads. i've seen people do this on other forum sites deliberately to interfere with members' use of the forum. it is a banning offense most places, simply because all it takes is one angry jerk to go back and bump EVERY old thread to bring a forum to its knees. if TJ wants to see all the old Griese and Plummer and Shanny threads bumped everytime some little princess on the OM gets his panties in a bunch about something or other, then that's fine, but it'll kill the site.

bowtown
08-24-2011, 03:21 PM
Well I certainly had some interesting things to say in this thread. I'm still not convinced that I wasn't right.

strafen
08-24-2011, 03:40 PM
Well I certainly had some interesting things to say in this thread. I'm still not convinced that I wasn't right.Hahaha!!! typical maner.
Never admitting beig wrong once!

Tebow won't be drafted. Period. Remember you heard it here first.