PDA

View Full Version : Brandon Marshall testifies that he thinks of Williams' murder "every night"


The MVPlaya
02-26-2010, 04:00 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/26/brandon-marshall-testifies-that-he-thinks-of-williams-murder-every-night/

As expected, Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall testified Friday in the trial of Willie Clark, the man accused of killing Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams.

Marshall said he thinks of the events of New Year's Eve 2006 "every night," according to Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post. Marshall began to cry when talking about the scene at the hospital where Williams' body was taken. Marshall said that former teammate Javon Walker was "fixated" on a large necklace that Williams had asked Walker to hold.

"[Walker] just kept looking at this chain, he wouldn't let no one hold the chain," Marshall said. "It was scary, there was blood on the chain."

Marshall admitted that he was arguing with a man believed to be Clark both inside and outside the night club where several Broncos were celebrating the arrival of 2007. "We start yapping back and forth," Marshall said. "There was a lot of cursing, a lot of words being exchanged. The guy with the black glasses on, it seemed like he didn't have a gun and lifted up his shirt like he had a gun. Then I made the comment, 'Man you ain't got no gun.' That's what I said. I probably escalated the fight. I was angry."

Marshall said that he picked Clark out of a photo lineup during a January 8, 2007 interview with police.

"I think it's unfair to put the wrong person behind bars, so if I picked someone out I wanted to be sure it was the guy I saw," Marshall said. "It was kind of tough at first because the guy I saw had on glasses, so a quarter of his face was gone. So I wanted to be sure."

Mike Klis of the Denver Post recently has explained that Marshall's periodic desire to leave the franchise in part has resulted in part from the "torment" Marshall experiences in the three-plus years since Williams' murder. Marshall is expected to receive a restricted free agent tender before March 4; some think he could be thereafter traded.

Archer81
02-26-2010, 04:05 PM
Damn. I hope Walker is getting professional help; Brandon, too.

:Broncos:

DenverBrit
02-26-2010, 04:07 PM
Kudos to BM for testifying and identifying Clark.

I can't help but wonder if some of his desire to be traded is for safety reasons.

Clark's last witness against him, in a previous murder charge, was shot and killed while mowing the yard.

TailgateNut
02-26-2010, 04:27 PM
Damn. I hope Walker is getting professional help; Brandon, too.

:Broncos:

I hope he gets some help moving out of Denver.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-26-2010, 04:27 PM
[url]
Mike Klis of the Denver Post recently has speculated that Marshall's periodic desire to leave the franchise in part has resulted in part from the "torment" Marshall experiences in the three-plus years since Williams' murder. Marshall is expected to receive a restricted free agent tender before March 4; some think he could be thereafter traded.

/fixed

bfoflcommish
02-26-2010, 04:44 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/26/brandon-marshall-testifies-that-he-thinks-of-williams-murder-every-night/

As expected, Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall testified Friday in the trial of Willie Clark, the man accused of killing Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams.

Marshall said he thinks of the events of New Year's Eve 2006 "every night," according to Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post. Marshall began to cry when talking about the scene at the hospital where Williams' body was taken. Marshall said that former teammate Javon Walker was "fixated" on a large necklace that Williams had asked Walker to hold.

"[Walker] just kept looking at this chain, he wouldn't let no one hold the chain," Marshall said. "It was scary, there was blood on the chain."

Marshall admitted that he was arguing with a man believed to be Clark both inside and outside the night club where several Broncos were celebrating the arrival of 2007. "We start yapping back and forth," Marshall said. "There was a lot of cursing, a lot of words being exchanged. The guy with the black glasses on, it seemed like he didn't have a gun and lifted up his shirt like he had a gun. Then I made the comment, 'Man you ain't got no gun.' That's what I said. I probably escalated the fight. I was angry."

Marshall said that he picked Clark out of a photo lineup during a January 8, 2007 interview with police.

"I think it's unfair to put the wrong person behind bars, so if I picked someone out I wanted to be sure it was the guy I saw," Marshall said. "It was kind of tough at first because the guy I saw had on glasses, so a quarter of his face was gone. So I wanted to be sure."

Mike Klis of the Denver Post recently has explained that Marshall's periodic desire to leave the franchise in part has resulted in part from the "torment" Marshall experiences in the three-plus years since Williams' murder. Marshall is expected to receive a restricted free agent tender before March 4; some think he could be thereafter traded.

jhns thinks marshall is lying and wasnt there and has no clue what happened that night

listopencil
02-26-2010, 05:12 PM
Kudos to BM for testifying and identifying Clark.

I can't help but wonder if some of his desire to be traded is for safety reasons.

Clark's last witness against him, in a previous murder charge, was shot and killed while mowing the yard.

Maybe, but not necessarily. Having someone close to you just about die in your arms is pretty traumatic. Traumatic events can twist a person in ways that are hard to understand. I've been pissed about his childish behavior and bitched about it openly but I also understand that Marshall could very well be going through some really hard times mentally. Hard to say what is going through his mind right now.

extralife
02-26-2010, 05:30 PM
It obviously had a strong effect on Walker. Always felt bad about how things unfolded for him.

Dagmar
02-26-2010, 05:38 PM
jhns is an idiot

^5

bfoflcommish
02-26-2010, 06:21 PM
^5



rofl! Lol

oubronco
02-26-2010, 07:16 PM
Kudos to BM for testifying and identifying Clark.

I can't help but wonder if some of his desire to be traded is for safety reasons.

Clark's last witness against him, in a previous murder charge, was shot and killed while mowing the yard.

Exactly

DenverBrit
02-26-2010, 07:39 PM
Maybe, but not necessarily. Having someone close to you just about die in your arms is pretty traumatic. Traumatic events can twist a person in ways that are hard to understand. I've been pissed about his childish behavior and b****ed about it openly but I also understand that Marshall could very well be going through some really hard times mentally. Hard to say what is going through his mind right now.

That was Walker in the Limo with DWill, BM just aggravated the situation.

Listening to the radio earlier, apparently the prosecutor or Chief of Police commented that had BM not been there that night, D Will would still be alive and playing football.

I haven't looked to find the quote, so it's just radio chatter for now.

TailgateNut
02-26-2010, 07:43 PM
That was Walker in the Limo with DWill, BM just aggravated the situation.

Listening to the radio earlier, apparently the prosecutor or Chief of Police commented that had BM not been there that night, D Will would still be alive and playing football.

I haven't looked to find the quote, so it's just radio chatter for now.


BUT, according to some of his nuthuggers, he's always innocent. Every G-damn time there's an issue with him, it's not HIS fault!:rofl:

TotallyScrewed
02-26-2010, 07:54 PM
Here we go...


Listen let's not put the blame on the guy who pulled the trigger. Let's blame the guy who talks too much...talks trash like he was a star (or budding star) athlete...or some smuck sitting in a basement yelling via the internet.


Wow...just wow.

DenverBrit
02-26-2010, 08:04 PM
Just browsing through the opening statements, this is probably the basis of the comments made on the radio this morning.

It's no wonder BM wants out of Denver, his safety and emotional state are at risk.
There was no way he could have known what was going to happen as a result of his and his cousin's behavior that night.

Instead, a prosecutor said, Williams was the innocent victim of a gang member angry because he was sprayed with champagne and feeling disrespected over being manhandled by Williams' teammate, current Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall.

"In a world of Denver street gangs, in a world of Tre Tre Crips, if you are disrespected, you have a right to take an innocent life," prosecutor Bruce Levin told jurors during his opening statement. "That is their world."


http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_14458514?source=pop_section_news

oubronco
02-26-2010, 08:14 PM
And it is stupid as hell

strafen
02-26-2010, 08:36 PM
That was Walker in the Limo with DWill, BM just aggravated the situation.

Listening to the radio earlier, apparently the prosecutor or Chief of Police commented that had BM not been there that night, D Will would still be alive and playing football.

I haven't looked to find the quote, so it's just radio chatter for now.I'm not going to defend Marshall, I'm just going to shed a different view of the situation whether that may be viewed as advocating Marshall or not.

This whole thing is not as simple as black and white as everybody here seems to be looking at it.

While I agree that Marshall's involvement may have escalated the situation, you have to understand a little bit about human emotions and how people react.
This event started at a night club, people are drinking, feeling good about themselves, celebrating with the people they feel most close to, you feel a sense of brotherhood and people become protective of each other. One for all and all for one.
I can see Marshall standing up against somebody threatening their circle of friends and what they had going at the time.
I can easily see those guys being taunted by strangers just because of who they are.
Cool heads are never going to prevale in these type of situations.
We're talking about a bunch of young men celebrating and it doesn't take much for the adrenaline to come rushing at the slightest provocation.

To sit here and say, if this guy didn't say this or did that, Darrent would've been alive, it's not how things work all the time, and they didn't at the time know the consequences this was going to bring upon themselves.

Ultimately, it was the decision of the gang members to go out of their way to hunt down the limo and open fire with the intent to kill. It wasn't to scare anyone, it was premeditated cold-blooded murder.

crowebomber
02-26-2010, 09:33 PM
That was Walker in the Limo with DWill, BM just aggravated the situation.

Listening to the radio earlier, apparently the prosecutor or Chief of Police commented that had BM not been there that night, D Will would still be alive and playing football.

I haven't looked to find the quote, so it's just radio chatter for now.


If the prosecutor said this, he should be fired. If you agree with him, you're an idiot. It's the equivalent of saying because a woman complained too much, she deserved to get beat to death, or because a girl wore sexy clothing, she was asking to be raped. If you want to reach for a law that Marshall broke by talking smack, then go ahead, but don't even try to pin the murder on him, you POS.

UberBroncoMan
02-26-2010, 09:41 PM
If the prosecutor said this, he should be fired. If you agree with him, you're an idiot. It's the equivalent of saying because a woman complained too much, she deserved to get beat to death, or because a girl wore sexy clothing, she was asking to be raped. If you want to reach for a law that Marshall broke by talking smack, then go ahead, but don't even try to pin the murder on him, you POS.

Technically the man is right though. If BM didn't talk smack Dwill would be alive because no shots would have been fired.

It may be stupid to say or hear, but it's true.

Regardless, Clark needs to say hello to Mr. Needle for this.

montrose
02-26-2010, 09:42 PM
One thing of note is that BM wasn't even a star player at the point of the murder. He's had three great seasons afterwords and it was reported he's twice asked for an extention (negotiations were taking place during the '09 offseason before his arrest and his agent asked for a new deal the day after his acquital), so while the theory of this stuff playing into his wanting to leave does make sense I still think if the Broncos offered him a fat new contract he'd run the fastest go route of his life over to Dove Valley to sign it.

Popps
02-26-2010, 09:58 PM
If the prosecutor said this, he should be fired. If you agree with him, you're an idiot. It's the equivalent of saying because a woman complained too much, she deserved to get beat to death

No it isn't.

Not even close.

What the prosecutor said was (in so many words)... had Marshall not instigated and elevated this situation, the gang member might not have felt it necessary to retaliate.

Again, most people seem to understand this all pretty well. But, a couple of people around here are having a hard time discerning between the severity of this act, and potential causal factors.

Saying that Marshall might have been a principle contributor to the elevation of this event is NOT saying that the event is justified.

BigPlayShay
02-26-2010, 10:07 PM
Audio of Marshall's testimony:

http://extras.denverpost.com/audio/Marshall022610.mp3

crowebomber
02-26-2010, 10:15 PM
And if Kenyon Martin didn't have the party, it probably wouldn't have happened either. What's the point of saying things like this unless you're indirectly or tacitly trying to place some of the blame on Marshall? I'm sure you have gotten into an argument with someone before. If the other person got so mad that they fired shots into your vehicle and killed someone, I bet you would be upset if a law enforcement official said "If Popps wouldn't have gotten into that argument I bet none of this would have happened." Think about it.

No it isn't.

Not even close.

What the prosecutor said was (in so many words)... had Marshall not instigated and elevated this situation, the gang member might not have felt it necessary to retaliate.

Again, most people seem to understand this all pretty well. But, a couple of people around here are having a hard time discerning between the severity of this act, and potential causal factors.

Saying that Marshall might have been a principle contributor to the elevation of this event is NOT saying that the event is justified.

DenverBrit
02-26-2010, 10:18 PM
If the prosecutor said this, he should be fired. If you agree with him, you're an idiot. It's the equivalent of saying because a woman complained too much, she deserved to get beat to death, or because a girl wore sexy clothing, she was asking to be raped. If you want to reach for a law that Marshall broke by talking smack, then go ahead, but don't even try to pin the murder on him, you POS.

I guess you're another clown who can't ****ing comprehend English!!

Show me anything I have written that shows anything but sympathy for BM's situation.

Learn to read before calling anyone an "idiot" or "POS." Dumbass!!

ZONA
02-26-2010, 10:21 PM
Technically the man is right though. If BM didn't talk smack Dwill would be alive because no shots would have been fired.

It may be stupid to say or hear, but it's true.

Regardless, Clark needs to say hello to Mr. Needle for this.

That's total BS. So now you can predict the future? If BM had not have talked smack, maybe somebody else would have. There could have been a hundred different things that could have made that situation escalated. And maybe not, maybe, the gang bangers would have tracked that limo regardless, just to shoot up some star football players.

Don't go talking smack about how you know DW would still be alive. You're not God, you don't know how the future would have unfolded. The FACT is, the pussy who pulled the trigger killed DW. Period. He is the guilty one, nobody else.

crowebomber
02-26-2010, 10:42 PM
I guess you're another clown who can't ****ing comprehend English!!

Show me anything I have written that shows anything but sympathy for BM's situation.

Learn to read before calling anyone an "idiot" or "POS." Dumbass!!

I guess I'm just aggravating the situation. Don't shoot me.

DenverBrit
02-26-2010, 10:54 PM
I guess I'm just aggravating the situation. Don't shoot me.

No need to add to your self inflicted injury.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HOwXjlGIiII/ShBDJPuM0sI/AAAAAAAABt0/60VFzr4Nqco/s400/shooting+yourself+in+the+foot.jpg

BigPlayShay
02-26-2010, 11:17 PM
Part 2 of Marshall's Testimony: http://extras.denverpost.com/audio/2Marshall022610.mp3

Part 3: http://extras.denverpost.com/audio/3Marshall022610.mp3

strafen
02-26-2010, 11:22 PM
Part 2 of Marshall's Testimony: http://extras.denverpost.com/audio/2Marshall022610.mp3

Part 3: http://extras.denverpost.com/audio/3Marshall022610.mp3First of all. I apologize for trying to stick to the topic...

This trial is moving pretty fast.
I've first heard it was expected to take two weeks. It looks like it's right on schedule.
Sometimes in cases like these, it takes a long time to bring to a grand jury and start the proceeding for a trial.
It looks to me the prosecution didn't have all they needed to present a good case against Clark.
I feel confident they're going to nail the guy...

Cito Pelon
02-27-2010, 09:20 AM
The bottom line is the prosecution has to present all the facts, or they won't get a conviction. They can't hide Marshall's part because it directly led to the crime Clark is being prosecuted for.

Rabb
02-27-2010, 09:49 AM
I actually feel pretty bad for Marshall, even though he was acting like a douche that night and many times since...nobody deserves to carry that kind of guilt around with them

he was (and still is to a lesser degree) an immature kid, and it wouldn't shock me one bit if that night caused a lot of the **** he has done since....all his fault...but a reason (not excuse) in any case

he needs some psychological help to get through it, I hope wherever he lands that he gets it for his sake...forget football

bombay
02-27-2010, 10:17 AM
Got to hand it to Brandon for manning up on the stand the way he did. There are already dead witnesses because of this mess.

Haroldthebarrel
02-27-2010, 10:58 AM
Why put more blame to a guy who obviously struggles with his own created guilt.

And why not look at this in a more positive light?
You have a guy with maturity issues manning up and testifying. Knowing that it might jeopardize his own life with this.
It seems like the scumbag who shoots people for getting dripped with a little alcohol gets nailed by justice. I mean how low can you get.
Remember who pulled the trigger and the puny reason he did.
To me this trial has a lot of reconciliation.

DenverBrit
02-27-2010, 11:11 AM
I actually feel pretty bad for Marshall, even though he was acting like a douche that night and many times since...nobody deserves to carry that kind of guilt around with them

he was (and still is to a lesser degree) an immature kid, and it wouldn't shock me one bit if that night caused a lot of the **** he has done since....all his fault...but a reason (not excuse) in any case

he needs some psychological help to get through it, I hope wherever he lands that he gets it for his sake...forget football


I can't imagine how badly he's felt since DWill's death.

Perhaps getting the trial and his testimony behind him will help him move on.

Rabb
02-27-2010, 11:13 AM
I can't imagine how badly he's felt since DWill's death.

Perhaps getting the trial and his testimony behind him will help him move on.

exactly, I agree

strafen
02-27-2010, 11:21 AM
exactly, I agreeAnd that's life.
Like I've said, it's not as easy as black & white.
I for one would be really concerned going to a murder trial involving gang members, imagine a high profile person's concerns plus the fact they've lost a friend.
It's tough...

TailgateNut
02-27-2010, 02:47 PM
Got to hand it to Brandon for manning up on the stand the way he did. There are already dead witnesses because of this mess.


?????

Boobs McGee
02-27-2010, 02:51 PM
I really and truly hope Brandon isn't murdered after this. Seriously, those gangs don't give a ****, and he could very easily anger some horrible people.

Scary stuff.

strafen
02-27-2010, 02:51 PM
?????Somebdy got shot dead while scheduled to testify against the leader of the gang Clark belongs to who is currently serving time or awaiting trial...

TailgateNut
02-27-2010, 06:07 PM
Somebdy got shot dead while scheduled to testify against the leader of the gang Clark belongs to who is currently serving time or awaiting trial...

Althoug the same gang was responsible, it wasn't related to this incident/murder.

strafen
02-27-2010, 06:29 PM
Althoug the same gang was responsible, it wasn't related to this incident/murder.No. Of course not
They did send a bad message though.