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BMarsh615
02-21-2010, 08:01 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncosheadlines/ci_14441207?source=rss

Raise your right hand, Brandon Marshall.

Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Because, so help me God, as Marshall prepares to take the witness stand in the Darrent Williams murder trial, I believe we are confronting what has been an unspoken, but monumental, reason why the great receiver has long been uncomfortable playing in Denver.

Marshall stated last fall that his disenchantment with playing for the Broncos wasn't about owner Pat Bowlen not giving him a robust contract, and I believe him. Marshall wants money, sure, but he'd rather get his paycheck from somewhere else.

Marshall also said during Super Bowl week that he has no personal misgivings about Broncos coach Josh McDan- iels, and again, I believe him. It's true, Marshall didn't care for the way McDaniels publicly called him out at season's end, but the former Central Florida star has survived far greater punishment.

"I come from the George O'Leary methods in college," Marshall said. "And it doesn't get any tougher than that."

Used to getting yelled at, then?

"Not just yelled at degraded," Marshall said. "You do something wrong, 'Hey, bear crawl 200 yards. Wake up at 5 in the morning and do this.' "

Does that mean McDaniels isn't a monster?

"No, Josh isn't a monster," Marshall said. "Josh is actually easy to talk to, easy to work with."

A deeper truth about Marshall, though, is he has been left emotionally scarred by Williams' murder in the wee hours of Jan. 1, 2007. Marshall was with Williams minutes before his Broncos teammate and good friend died almost instantly from a bullet wound to the neck.

Preceding the shooting, police say there was an altercation outside The Shelter, a Broadway nightclub that was hosting a Kenyon Martin birthday-New Year's celebration that was attended by Williams and Marshall, among other former and current Broncos.

Marshall allegedly was involved in the fracas, which is why he is expected to testify during the next two weeks at the trial of gang member Willie Clark, who is charged with premeditated murder, among many other alleged crimes, in Williams' death.

I have never spoken to Marshall about that tragic night of Dec. 31, 2006-Jan. 1, 2007. I have spoken to several people close to Marshall, and they all say Williams' murder continues to torment him.

Besides lasting grief, he has endured guilt, even though he wasn't in Williams' limousine that had driven away just a few short blocks from the nightclub when it became riddled with bullets. The killing left Marshall frightened, which may explain why he has never spoken about that night publicly, at least not knowingly.

It wasn't until Marshall was allegedly fortified with 0.116 of truth serum while driving impaired on Oct. 22, 2007, that he revealed what may have been his deepest sentiments.

"I hate Denver," Marshall said, as written by the arresting officer in the police report.

"I hope I get traded. I hate this (bleeping) city."

Marshall has proved he doesn't really hate Denver. He has repeatedly said he loves the fans who have supported him through his capricious time here. A few lines down in that police report, though, came what may have been the root of all his fury.

"Why aren't you guys looking for Williams' killer?" Marshall told the officer.

Marshall later pled guilty to driving while impaired and received a year's probation that has since expired.

Receptions and trouble define Marshall's exhilarating and exasperating four-year term with the Broncos.

But he deserves credit for the admirable way he handled the murder of his friend. We all knew about his past problems with a former girlfriend.

He has never let us understand how arguably the worst moment in Broncos history has affected him.

Marshall has produced since Williams' death, posting three consecutive seasons of at least 100 catches. But Denver will forever carry a haunting memory. It's an under- stated, but not underrated, reason why Marshall would like to move on.

His final task in Denver may well come not from a football field but from a witness stand. You can't make this stuff up.

bowtown
02-21-2010, 08:20 AM
Yep, it's offseason alright.

The MVPlaya
02-21-2010, 08:34 AM
Yep, it's offseason alright.

+1

This guy is stretching way far up his asss...

ayjackson
02-21-2010, 08:48 AM
Sunday morning stretching?

Oh well, I think we know he'd like to play elsewhere. Despite the ongoing drama that Brandon brings to the table, I do like the guy. I hope he ends up in a good situation and I hope we end up with a good draft pick. Or Vince Wilfork.

TailgateNut
02-21-2010, 08:57 AM
If Marshall wouldn't have been one of the instigators which eventually led to DWills death he probably wouldn't feel so bad about the situation. Now the story will be told.

ayjackson
02-21-2010, 09:01 AM
If Marshall wouldn't have been one of the instigators which eventually led to DWills death he probably would feel so bad about the situation. Now the story will be told.

I don't know the story very well living in Canada, but I think in our youth, we've all been instigators at times - but we don't always expect that someone will end up with a bullet in their neck.

broncogary
02-21-2010, 09:10 AM
If Marshall wouldn't have been one of the instigators which eventually led to DWills death he probably would feel so bad about the situation. Now the story will be told.

Just because he didn't back down from some punks doesn't mean he was an instigator. I'm pretty sure you would have done the same thing.

WolfpackGuy
02-21-2010, 09:23 AM
I thought Marshall's crew were the ones spraying bub all over which initiated the beef?

Either way, a senseless murder.

Cito Pelon
02-21-2010, 09:34 AM
+1

This guy is stretching way far up his asss...

Maybe, maybe not. Not a great article, I'll grant you that.

Marshall maybe is subpoena'd for the trial. A related article:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14442039

There's a history of witness intimidation with these gangs. A couple years ago two witnesses to a Denver gang murder were in turn murdered to keep them from testifying.

HEAV
02-21-2010, 09:40 AM
Just because he didn't back down from some punks doesn't mean he was an instigator. I'm pretty sure you would have done the same thing.

``Real Sports'' said another Broncos receiver, Brandon Marshall, and his cousin were partying with Williams' group that night and began spraying champagne around, ``some of which hit a club patron and his friend, who confronted Williams and his entourage.''


Those men flashed gang signs and were escorted out of the club, said members of a rap group from Williams' hometown of Fort Worth, Texas, who were with him that night.

Walker said he didn't see the encounter inside the club but saw trouble brewing when he left at closing time. Marshall and his cousin were exchanging heated words with two men, he said. The rappers said it was the same men who had been kicked out of the club earlier that night.

After Williams and Walker both tried to intervene, Williams told Walker to ride with him in his Hummer limousine, and they drove off into the night, Walker said.


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Same cousin that Marshall was wrestling with when he put his arm through the TV...

Brandon has been immature for years.

baja
02-21-2010, 10:27 AM
If Marshall wouldn't have been one of the instigators which eventually led to DWills death he probably would feel so bad about the situation. Now the story will be told.

Justified or not it is very reasonable to expect Marshall to feel guilt in the DWill death. He should seek professional help to deal with it. This will follow him all his life if he does not find a way to forgive himself for his perceived part in this sad saga.

SportinOne
02-21-2010, 12:43 PM
While i'm sure it affected him, in regard to the article... whatever man.

Marshall was bitching because he got a ticket.. when i was 16 and got my first speeding ticket i felt the same way. "Why is this cop just sitting there waiting for people who are only going 10 over. Shouldn't he be out doing more important things with tax money?" Of course, i was 16 then, and i didn't say this to the cop.

Marshall is a heck of a player, but like a lot of professional athletes he is fully capable of acting like a little kid, which he's done a lot of.

i still say keep him, let him grow up and see how good he can get.

strafen
02-21-2010, 12:49 PM
The important thing is not Marshall. We have to feel relieved that the killer of Darrent Williams is finally going to be brought to justice.
It's been a long ordeal for his family and friends...

ZONA
02-21-2010, 10:26 PM
I don't know the story very well living in Canada, but I think in our youth, we've all been instigators at times - but we don't always expect that someone will end up with a bullet in their neck.

Well said. Young men will be young men. Punching and fighting you can live with. But when chumps pull out guns to end lives, that's nobody's fault except the loser who pulled the trigger.

This article was total BS. Editor says to writer "we need to sell some newspapers, go write me something to ruffle some feathers, twist words, make stuff up, I don't care, just write something that's going to get people reading".

:lalalala:

BroncoMan4ever
02-21-2010, 11:30 PM
i can't believe it has been over 3 years since DWill died. such a waste, i really hope that ****er gets the chair.

on a side note, even though he left on bad terms, i have always felt bad for Walker.

RIP DWill

epicSocialism4tw
02-21-2010, 11:55 PM
I dont think that this article is as bad as some people are intimating here.

If you were out partying with friends and one of them got killed in a fracas that you were involved in, would it not affect you? Especially when there still continues to be gang problems in Denver?

Marshall probably still hangs out in the type of places that those hoods that killed Darrent were hanging out in that night. You would be reminded every now and then, you would think about what might have happened if it was you who was in Darrent's place, and you would fear something similar happening to you.

watermock
02-22-2010, 12:27 AM
Grow some balls, man up and testtify.

****ing wimps.

Gang rule has to end.

strafen
02-22-2010, 12:32 AM
i can't believe it has been over 3 years since DWill died. such a waste, i really hope that ****er gets the chair.

on a side note, even though he left on bad terms, i have always felt bad for Walker.

RIP DWill

Of all the people involved in that incident, Javon Walker is perhaps the one who had the hardest time dealing with it.
Darrent died on his lap.
That's got to be a very traumatizing event for anybody...

strafen
02-22-2010, 12:35 AM
Grow some balls, man up and testtify.

****ing wimps.

Gang rule has to end.Man, you don't know what is like to be living your life looking over your shoulders. Especialy for a high-profile person/athlete.

watermock
02-22-2010, 12:39 AM
Man, you don't know what is like to be living your life looking over your shoulders. Especialy for a high-profile person/athlete.

Do you?

Bull****.

watermock
02-22-2010, 12:47 AM
Didnt' we all learn how "protecting his family" worked out for Tiger?

strafen
02-22-2010, 12:52 AM
Do you?

Bull****.

I'm not saying, nor did I say I have. At least not in a way to be expecting somebody to shoot at me.
You or anybody at one point in our lives may have experienced a similar situation, be it at school growing up or for whatever reason. It doesn't have to be of a life threatening situation, just be looking over your shoulders when you suspect something bad may happen to you. I know I have, but not in this magnitude.
So, it only takes a person to put himself in the shoes of another person going thru this problem to understand what that can feel like...

I remember living in the mountains and walking about a mile thru a dirt road leading to my place at night everyday with just a small flashlight on me.
Looking back, anything could've happened to me. I was always looking over my shoulders for anything out of the woods; a bear, mountain lion, a lunatic on the loose, you just never know.
Imagine living like that at all times...

watermock
02-22-2010, 01:46 AM
I remember living in the mountains and walking about a mile thru a dirt road leading to my place at night everyday with just a small flashlight on me.
Looking back, anything could've happened to me. I was always looking over my shoulders for anything out of the woods; a bear, mountain lion, a lunatic on the loose, you just never know.
Imagine living like that at all times...


OMG!

You didn't have a gun???

watermock
02-22-2010, 01:48 AM
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BroncoMan4ever
02-22-2010, 03:02 AM
Didnt' we all learn how "protecting his family" worked out for Tiger?

there is a major difference between Marshall's possible gang fears and Tiger getting caught slipping dick to 18 chicks that weren't his wife

Bronco Yoda
02-22-2010, 03:17 AM
The important thing is not Marshall. We have to feel relieved that the killer of Darrent Williams is finally going to be brought to justice.
It's been a long ordeal for his family and friends...

I hope this really happens.

baja
02-22-2010, 07:16 AM
I'm not saying, nor did I say I have. At least not in a way to be expecting somebody to shoot at me.
You or anybody at one point in our lives may have experienced a similar situation, be it at school growing up or for whatever reason. It doesn't have to be of a life threatening situation, just be looking over your shoulders when you suspect something bad may happen to you. I know I have, but not in this magnitude.
So, it only takes a person to put himself in the shoes of another person going thru this problem to understand what that can feel like...

I remember living in the mountains and walking about a mile thru a dirt road leading to my place at night everyday with just a small flashlight on me.
Looking back, anything could've happened to me. I was always looking over my shoulders for anything out of the woods; a bear, mountain lion, a lunatic on the loose, you just never know.
Imagine living like that at all times...

I'll take alone in the woods over a lonely city street at night any time .

Ramathorn
02-22-2010, 08:08 AM
Wilson: Williams’ death a reason Brandon Marshall wants out of Denver
Aaron Wilson, The National Football Post
Feb 21, 10:58 am EST

Why does star wide receiver Brandon Marshall(notes) want off the Denver Broncos?

He wants a new contract. Check.

He wants a fresh start in a new city. Probably.

He’s had run-ins with Broncos coach Josh McDaniels in the past. Certainly, but they seem to be able to coexist most of the time.

However, there’s a deeper, more personal reason why Marshall would like a change of scenery.

According to the Denver Post, Marshall remains haunted by the murder of teammate Darrent Williams(notes).

In the report, which references conversations with several friends of Marshall, that Jan. 1, 2007 death is a major impetus for the Pro Bowl wide receiver wanting to leave Denver.

Marshall reportedly was in an altercation at a nightclub that could have led to the shooting, and he was with Williams shortly before he was killed in a driveby shooting.

Marshall might be called to testify in Willie Clark’s murder trial, which begins this week.

A clue to Marshall’s mindset was offered by the enigmatic receiver when he was arrested for driving under the influence on Oct. 22, 2007.

Per the arrest report, Marshall said: "I hate Denver. I hope I get traded. I hate this f—ing city .. Why aren’t you guys out looking for Williams’ killer?"

Marshall has caught 100 passes for three consecutive seasons, but the grief and guilt he still feels, per the Post, could be a big factor in determining what happens next in his NFL career.

Ramathorn
02-22-2010, 08:09 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-wilson_williams_death_a_reason_brandon_marshall_wa nts_out_of_denver_html-2010221&prov=nfp&type=lgns

Meck77
02-22-2010, 08:11 AM
It's always something and always will be.

Beantown Bronco
02-22-2010, 08:15 AM
Begins with "m" and ends with "erge"

Ramathorn
02-22-2010, 08:36 AM
Begins with "m" and ends with "erge"

piss off

Broncoman13
02-22-2010, 08:43 AM
Already a thread on this.

Beantown Bronco
02-22-2010, 08:46 AM
piss off

ummmm, ok. It's my fault you can't see a thread that hasn't left the top 10 all morning. My bad.

Paladin
02-22-2010, 08:56 AM
This is why they have an 800 post rule.......

baja
02-22-2010, 09:11 AM
I'm lost where am I...

OBF1
02-22-2010, 11:50 AM
bacon chesseburgers

supermanhr9
02-22-2010, 01:36 PM
That's the first I have heard he was in a fight with the people who shot Darrent. Damn, that would be haunting.

I still feel bad for criticizing D-Will as bad as me and my friends did his last game, which we attended. SO I can't imagine what guys like Javon Walker and B-Marsh must feel.

Flex Gunmetal
02-22-2010, 02:07 PM
ummmm, ok. It's my fault you can't see a thread that hasn't left the top 10 all morning. My bad.

lol.
And mock, your comment about tiger is completely irrelevant. Right on par wih your usual posts.

Cito Pelon
02-22-2010, 03:15 PM
Grow some balls, man up and testtify.

****ing wimps.

Gang rule has to end.

That's what he's gonna have to do, and that's what he's afraid of.

Yeah, gang rule has to end. People have said that since the beginning of civilization, but haven't made much headway.

Ramathorn
02-22-2010, 06:33 PM
ummmm, ok. It's my fault you can't see a thread that hasn't left the top 10 all morning. My bad.

Im glad you can see the error in your ways, db

steeledude
02-22-2010, 08:22 PM
Once again Mike Klit ****s and mistakes it for a piece of journalism.

I have never seen so much speculation based off a drunken police report. I'm glad I'm a clumsy oaf and not rich, because when I got my ticket for drunken disorderly a few years ago, and I said "I hate this f'n town, I'm leaving because you cops have nothing better to do than harass people", someone might have tried to say I meant it.

Guess I'm still here where I live, and I still hate the cops, and luckily what I said when drunk isn't a valid endorsement.

Damn these guys just want to run Marsh out of town.

steeledude
02-22-2010, 08:27 PM
[B]
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Same cousin that Marshall was wrestling with when he put his arm through the TV...

Brandon has been immature for years.

Wait...Marshall got in an argument in a public place where drinking was involved? And he's already like 23 years old? He should know better. I've never seen a person in their 20s, especially while drinking because once you start drinking everyone knows you'll behave more responsibly than normal because you're drunk, get into an argument, or exchange heated words in public. What if a kid had been there and seen it? What would we have done then?

He is SO immature.

McD should initiate a team policy that anyone who drinks and gets into some trouble is kicked off the team.

...of course that'd mean DJ Williams too. And Rod Smith back when he played. And so on.