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Pony Boy
02-16-2010, 11:15 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4916957

Chicago Bears senior director of pro personnel Bobby DePaul has been relieved of his duties, the team announced Monday.
DePaul headed the organization's pro personnel department for the last nine seasons. According to the team's media guide, DePaul "evaluated players in all ranks of professional football, prepared the club for its acquisitions through trades, free agency or the waiver wire, managed the advance scouting of Bears opponents ... and had a hand in day-to-day football operations."
DePaul was probably best known for orchestrating the Jay Cutler trade. According to the Chicago Tribune, he was escorted out of Halas Hall, the team's practice facility.
DePaul not only engineered the Cutler trade, which sent then-starter Kyle Orton to the Denver Broncos, along with draft picks, he also played a big part in acquiring free agents such as offensive lineman John Tait and running back Thomas Jones. The Tribune also reported that while DePaul's relationship with general manager Jerry Angelo was considered strong, it was known among insiders that DePaul and coach Lovie Smith didn't always agree.
DePaul came to the Bears in 2001 with Angelo after serving as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles player personnel department as a scout after an eight-year career as an NFL assistant coach. DePaul was hired by then-Redskins' defensive coordinator Richie Petitbon in 1989 and was on Washington's staff when the Redskins won Super Bowl XXVI over Buffalo. He then served as a coach on the Cincinnati Bengals staff before going to Philadelphia.

Man-Goblin
02-16-2010, 11:16 AM
Cutler is a budding director of pro personnel killer.

watermock
02-16-2010, 11:21 AM
Scapegoat.

CEH
02-16-2010, 11:21 AM
I'm not sure how much he had to do with the Cutler trade
Several team put in bids and it came down to
who does Denver like more Kyle Orton or Jason Campbell

watermock
02-16-2010, 11:27 AM
Ayers:

2009 Denver Broncos 15 1 19 14 5 0.0 0 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
TOTAL 19 14 5 0.0 0 2 0 0 -- 0 0 0


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Alphonzie:

Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 Denver Broncos 15 0 14 9 5 0.0 -- 3 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
TOTAL 14 9 5 0.0 0 3 0 0 -- 0 0 0


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strafen
02-16-2010, 11:32 AM
I'm not sure how much he had to do with the Cutler trade
Several team put in bids and it came down to
who does Denver like more Kyle Orton or Jason CampbellDid both team have the same two first round picks to offer?

WolfpackGuy
02-16-2010, 11:36 AM
Did both team have the same two first round picks to offer?

Skins had 13 and are sitting on 4 this year.

I thought I remember hearing the Skins wouldn't part with two firsts though.

Flex Gunmetal
02-16-2010, 11:38 AM
Mock your posts in this thread are extremely relevant and informative.

BABronco
02-16-2010, 11:48 AM
Mock your posts in this thread are extremely relevant and informative.

Hey now. Don't sell the guy short.

It's not just in this thread mock.

Pick Six
02-16-2010, 11:48 AM
Escorted out of Halas Hall? That's pretty harsh. He didn't go quietly?..???:dunk:

Rohirrim
02-16-2010, 11:49 AM
The Cutler effect: It spreads like a virus!

http://www.horrorstew.com/images/blob.jpg

Popps
02-16-2010, 11:52 AM
Bodies pile up in his wake.

Pony Boy
02-16-2010, 11:53 AM
Hey now. Don't sell the guy short.

It's not just in this thread mock.

I'm headed down to Hot Springs Village to play in a golf tournament, I'm scared to drink the water......

oubronco
02-16-2010, 11:53 AM
Funny how its all cutlers fault......sheesh

Man-Goblin
02-16-2010, 11:56 AM
Funny how its all cutlers fault......sheesh

So, if Cutler plays well last year, this guy and all those offensive assistants would have still lost their jobs?

Rabb
02-16-2010, 12:00 PM
So, if Cutler plays well last year, this guy and all those offensive assistants would have still lost their jobs?

no no, you have it all wrong

Cutler played poorly because of THEM

THEY were the problems!!!

:rofl:

Pony Boy
02-16-2010, 12:02 PM
http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/1/13/1238808/oss-cutler-the-coach-killer-s01

Meet Jay Cutler. By day he's a rocket-armed, gun-slinging quarterback for the Chicago Bears football team. But by night - he takes on an entirely different persona: a coach killer. But Jay, a self-admitted "monster," isn't your average serial killer. He only kills those "who deserve it"; mainly, coaches who have lost the ability to call an effective offense or were never suspected to be able to in the first place.

Pick Six
02-16-2010, 12:05 PM
The wagons are circling around the man who makes the ultimate decisions...aka The Lovie Machine...8')

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-16-2010, 12:19 PM
Ayers:

2009 Denver Broncos 15 1 19 14 5 0.0 0 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
TOTAL 19 14 5 0.0 0 2 0 0 -- 0 0 0 *


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Alphonzie:

Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 Denver Broncos 15 0 14 9 5 0.0 -- 3 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 0
TOTAL 14 9 5 0.0 0 3 0 0 -- 0 0 0
*

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* rookie season

CEH
02-16-2010, 12:23 PM
Did both team have the same two first round picks to offer?

I think Denver was down to Chi and Washington so I assume both teams were offering similar packages
McD sat down and watched tape of the 2008 seasons of Campbell and Orton

ColoradoDarin
02-16-2010, 12:28 PM
bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Florida_Bronco
02-16-2010, 12:31 PM
Bodies pile up in his wake.

Literally and figuratively.

watermock
02-16-2010, 12:39 PM
Good thing we have the 35 catch Royal yet, and Gaff and Quinn and the guy with a broken knee. Don't forget about Slowerno!

19-0 here we come!

Man-Goblin
02-16-2010, 01:19 PM
Good thing we have the 35 catch Royal yet, and Gaff and Quinn and the guy with a broken knee. Don't forget about Slowerno!

19-0 here we come!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/justusj/INTERESTING.jpg

Paladin
02-16-2010, 01:30 PM
Jeez, Mock. When are you going to get better and be sane?

colonelbeef
02-16-2010, 01:31 PM
Scapegoat.

Exactly

watermock
02-16-2010, 01:39 PM
I'll be glad too. Virually all "uip for grabs" RFA's will come from Denver, from the famous '06 class.

Marshall, Kuper, Hillis, and Schffefler will all be tendered and many will be gone.

I expect to overpay Doom and possibly get Kuper back.

If we don't match, we get shiat for BM, probably a second, not sure. Scheff? Who knows. Probably squat.

Hillis will want to leave under any situation.

BroncoMan4ever
02-16-2010, 01:42 PM
Funny how its all cutlers fault......sheesh

it actually has a lot to do with Jay. if Cutler hadn't taken a legit run at setting the single season INT mark and had done better than 6-10 or 7-9 whatever they were, i seriously doubt any offensive coaches get fired and doubt seriously that DePaul is escorted out of the building.

the talk of him being a coach killer may be a bit premature, but it can also be said he was somewhat instrumental in the dismissal of these guys

watermock
02-16-2010, 01:44 PM
Jeez, Mock. When are you going to get better and be sane?


I've been sane thru this whole fiasco.

Lose 4 in a row, have a players meeting, win 2. Let Beavis in, lose 4 more and leave 2 offensive weapons on the bench.

It's amusing now that we seem to think it's the OL's fault rather than the ability of the QB or scheme.

Wait till next year.

watermock
02-16-2010, 01:48 PM
Let m remind you we were one of the least injured teams in the NFL, and if we has a ****ing backup QB that didn't suck, we might of won a couple more.

Cool Breeze
02-16-2010, 01:53 PM
It's called a work in progress...

Maybe if Chicago had a better QB they would have won a few more games too.

Rabb
02-16-2010, 01:55 PM
Let m remind you we were one of the least injured teams in the NFL, and if we has a ****ing backup QB that didn't suck, we might of won a couple more.

we did, he just didn't play

watermock
02-16-2010, 01:57 PM
it actually has a lot to do with Jay. if Cutler hadn't taken a legit run at setting the single season INT mark and had done better than 6-10 or 7-9 whatever they were, i seriously doubt any offensive coaches get fired and doubt seriously that DePaul is escorted out of the building.

the talk of him being a coach killer may be a bit premature, but it can also be said he was somewhat instrumental in the dismissal of these guys


Just like Nolan had to go huh?

Someone had to go, an I'm sure the guy was a strong pro-cutler advocate.

I don't ee much luck with GB and Minn for Da Bears this year anywqy.

watermock
02-16-2010, 01:58 PM
we did, he just didn't play


And who's fault is that?

Good grief, Simms was the worst in a decade.

Florida_Bronco
02-16-2010, 02:03 PM
it actually has a lot to do with Jay. if Cutler hadn't taken a legit run at setting the single season INT mark and had done better than 6-10 or 7-9 whatever they were, i seriously doubt any offensive coaches get fired and doubt seriously that DePaul is escorted out of the building.

the talk of him being a coach killer may be a bit premature, but it can also be said he was somewhat instrumental in the dismissal of these guys

There is alot of truth to this I think.

Rabb
02-16-2010, 02:04 PM
And who's fault is that?

Good grief, Simms was the worst in a decade.

I see what you are saying and cannot completely disagree, I personally think Brandstater looked good in preseason but none of us are qualified to make that call in the end

there is some reason he didn't play, we just have to trust in that decision I guess and move on...as bad as Simms was, someone thought he was better than Tom B. whether we like it or not

kudos Mock, you managed to blame Orton, Simms and now circled back to McD in just a few posts!

watermock
02-16-2010, 02:10 PM
These guys"

They fired a scout/personell guy that said yes to bringing in Cutler.

If you think HE brought in Cutler, that's hysterical.

http://www.bangcartoon.com/2009/special_delivery.htm

Jason7730
02-16-2010, 02:30 PM
It's McDaniels fault Cutler threw all of ints. in Chicago!! Just ask Mock.....lol!!!! And it somehow has to do with drafting A. Smith. It must be some kind of crazy mathematical formula. Damn that McDaniels guy!

watermock
02-16-2010, 02:35 PM
Actually Denver go great value in the trade, basically triple value.

What we did with the draft was a laughing joke.

Once the trade was done, it was the front office's resposibility to bring in some players with 5 of 64 in the first 3 rounds.

oubronco
02-16-2010, 02:41 PM
So, if Cutler plays well last year, this guy and all those offensive assistants would have still lost their jobs?

who knows maybe they wanted to go a different direction Good Grief

Merlin
02-16-2010, 02:44 PM
Did both team have the same two first round picks to offer?
Yes they did. In fact DC's picks were better, but McD chose the Bears because he thought Orton was a decent QB, he didn't care too much for Campbell (maybe he didn't like his initials.... j/k).

A fair question is whether Orton was worth the loss in draft choices...i.e. Denver gave up a fair amount in draft position to acquire Orton over Campbell.

Jason7730
02-16-2010, 02:46 PM
Actually Denver go great value in the trade, basically triple value.

What we did with the draft was a laughing joke.

Once the trade was done, it was the front office's resposibility to bring in some players with 5 of 64 in the first 3 rounds.

Shouldn't draft classes be judged on more than one year? I.E. B. Marshall 20 rec. for 309 yds. in his rookie year????? Point is you CANNOT judge a draft class after only one year. To look at it from another angle check out Mike Croel' rookie year stats and then what happened after his first year....

Merlin
02-16-2010, 02:49 PM
it actually has a lot to do with Jay. if Cutler hadn't taken a legit run at setting the single season INT mark and had done better than 6-10 or 7-9 whatever they were, i seriously doubt any offensive coaches get fired and doubt seriously that DePaul is escorted out of the building.

the talk of him being a coach killer may be a bit premature, but it can also be said he was somewhat instrumental in the dismissal of these guys
Actually, it has little to do with Cutler. This yr happened to crystallize how poor that team has been built. Even with a quality QB the gaping holes in all areas were clearly evident, especially on offense (OL, WRs). Someone needs to be blamed for that mess, and to suggest that it is the QB is extremely simplistic...but not surprising considering all the hate from former lovers.

Hell has no Wrath like a lovers Scorned

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-16-2010, 02:54 PM
Actually, it has little to do with Cutler. This yr happened to crystallize how poor that team has been built. Even with a quality QB the gaping holes in all areas were clearly evident, especially on offense (OL, WRs). Someone needs to be blamed for that mess, and to suggest that it is the QB is extremely simplistic...but not surprising considering all the hate from former lovers.

Hell has no Wrath like a lovers Scorned

It has a lot to do with Cutler.

This DePaul character likely told his boss that bringing in a top-flight QB would suddenly change the franchise's direction. problem is, he got Cutler, not a top-flight QB.

He put all of his eggs in the Cutler basket. Cutler had a diabetic episode and dropped all those eggs.

oubronco
02-16-2010, 02:57 PM
It has a lot to do with Cutler.

This DePaul character likely told his boss that bringing in a top-flight QB would suddenly change the franchise's direction. problem is, he got Cutler, not a top-flight QB.

He put all of his eggs in the Cutler basket. Cutler had a diabetic episode and dropped all those eggs.

So what happens when Cutler turns it around are you guys still gonna bag on him even when Orton stinks up the place

Just curious

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-16-2010, 03:01 PM
So what happens when Cutler turns it around are you guys still gonna bag on him even when Orton stinks up the place

Just curious

Just so I'm clear:

You're essentially guaranteeing that not only will Cutler "turn it around" (nice vague term, ou) but Orton will "stink up the place"?

Why don't we just wait and see what happens before you start asking future-predicting questions, hey kiddo?

Garcia Bronco
02-16-2010, 03:02 PM
What exactly is Culter "turning it around"? Throwing 15 int's instead of 26?

Rabb
02-16-2010, 03:09 PM
and, Orton did not "stink up the place"

he was not our problem this season...but whatever, I just want 2010 Week 1 to start right now

oubronco
02-16-2010, 03:13 PM
Just so I'm clear:

You're essentially guaranteeing that not only will Cutler "turn it around" (nice vague term, ou) but Orton will "stink up the place"?

Why don't we just wait and see what happens before you start asking future-predicting questions, hey kiddo?

no just asking what if it happens

oubronco
02-16-2010, 03:15 PM
and, Orton did not "stink up the place"

he was not our problem this season...but whatever, I just want 2010 Week 1 to start right now

No Shyt i'm tired of all this Cutler shyt

He's gone "Let it GO"

Pick Six
02-16-2010, 03:15 PM
What exactly is Culter "turning it around"? Throwing 15 int's instead of 26?

A 90-degree turn around would cut the INTs in half. So, look for Cutler to throw "no more" than 13 INTs.

With my "stellar" record of prognostication, this is guaranteed not to happen...;D

Rabb
02-16-2010, 03:22 PM
No Shyt i'm tired of all this Cutler shyt

He's gone "Let it GO"

agreed

Br0nc0Buster
02-16-2010, 03:26 PM
A 90-degree turn around would cut the INTs in half. So, look for Cutler to throw "no more" than 13 INTs.

With my "stellar" record of prognostication, this is guaranteed not to happen...;D

with Martz as the offensive coordinator there is no way that happens at all
Unless Jay gets hurt....by week 4

baja
02-16-2010, 03:34 PM
A 90-degree turn around would cut the INTs in half. So, look for Cutler to throw "no more" than 13 INTs.

With my "stellar" record of prognostication, this is guaranteed not to happen...;D

Actually a 90 degree turn would be a lateral move.


At best it is a quarter turn amounting to a 25% reduction.

Garcia Bronco
02-16-2010, 03:39 PM
A 90-degree turn around would cut the INTs in half. So, look for Cutler to throw "no more" than 13 INTs.

With my "stellar" record of prognostication, this is guaranteed not to happen...;D

my 15 included 2 in the playoffs.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-16-2010, 03:55 PM
no just asking what if it happens

Actually, you're not. You're saying "WHEN" it happens. Significant difference between "when" and "if," no?

oubronco
02-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Actually, you're not. You're saying "WHEN" it happens. Significant difference between "when" and "if," no?

sorry, but when/if it happens will you still be baggin on him even though he's not on our team anymore

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-16-2010, 03:59 PM
sorry, but when/if it happens will you still be baggin on him even though he's not on our team anymore

I don't know the answer to that.

IF it happens, I'll probably still want to see if he wins games he should win, or wins important games, or makes the playoffs, or...

If Orton lights the world on fire, are you still going to bag on him even though he's on your team?

baja
02-16-2010, 04:02 PM
Told ya...

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=84853

oubronco
02-16-2010, 04:04 PM
I don't know the answer to that.

IF it happens, I'll probably still want to see if he wins games he should win, or wins important games, or makes the playoffs, or...

If Orton lights the world on fire, are you still going to bag on him even though he's on your team?

I'm not going to sit here and say I'm thrilled to have Orton on our team but he is the QB and I don't bag on him that much that is not near as much as you guys do Cutler and DJ and Scheffler and Marshall and Hillis and...............

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-16-2010, 04:22 PM
I'm not going to sit here and say I'm thrilled to have Orton on our team but he is the QB and I don't bag on him that much that is not near as much as you guys do Cutler and DJ and Scheffler and Marshall and Hillis and...............

First, you're full of ****. What you said in this very thread was that you expect nothing but bad things from orton. Don't try to weasel and say you don't bag on Orton. Good grief.

oubronco means what he says and says what he means, but has trouble remembering what he said, evidently.

And claiming that people who rag on Cutler for being a whiny little bitch of a woman in a skirt also rag on Marshall, Scheffler, Hillis, et al, isn't really correct. I have different reasons for being ill at ease about Marshall. Don't have a problem with Scheffler. Have no beef with DJ. And my problem with Hillis stems from those folks who think he can do no wrong.

But sure. I bag on Cutler and everyone else.

Interesting what passes for reality around here.

BroncoMan4ever
02-16-2010, 07:15 PM
Just like Nolan had to go huh?




Nolan is not here because he wanted to ****ing go to Miami. that has been discussed at great lengths around here.

in fact, when Miami originally called about possibly interviewing him to take over as their DC, McDaniels refused. it wasn't until Nolan said he wanted to go that McDaniels allowed it.

same situation as with Turner and Dennison. they are gone because they chose to go to situations where they were promoted and got to work with guys they have been friends with for years.

BroncoMan4ever
02-16-2010, 07:22 PM
Actually, it has little to do with Cutler. This yr happened to crystallize how poor that team has been built. Even with a quality QB the gaping holes in all areas were clearly evident, especially on offense (OL, WRs). Someone needs to be blamed for that mess, and to suggest that it is the QB is extremely simplistic...but not surprising considering all the hate from former lovers.

Hell has no Wrath like a lovers Scorned

i hate that bull**** that everyone spouts about when Cutler talks are brought up here. every thread has to have a few guys bitching that all us who don't swing from Jay's dick are haters because we miss the guy.

how is it that so many can say Denver sucks because of our QB play(which was exponentially better than Cutler this season) and no one says **** about it. Yet when someone says Chicago sucked this season because Cutler sucked it is because we are haters?


also, on a side note to another point in your article. a great QB, a franchise QB makes his receivers better. look at Indy. Peyton made 2 guys who were late round projects into damn near elite receivers this season

great QBs get the job done regardless of who is around them. sure bringing in guys who can contribute helps, but the greats are those who make the players around them better

and for the peple who complain about Orton, he averaged 10 wins a season in Chicago with the same receivers, line and defense.

rastaman
02-16-2010, 07:22 PM
So, if Cutler plays well last year, this guy and all those offensive assistants would have still lost their jobs?

According to your logic then McD is an assistant coach Killer...is he not? Turner, Dennison, and Nolan all left town due to McD's polarizing personality...RIGHT!

rastaman
02-16-2010, 07:25 PM
Nolan is not here because he wanted to ****ing go to Miami. that has been discussed at great lengths around here.

in fact, when Miami originally called about possibly interviewing him to take over as their DC, McDaniels refused. it wasn't until Nolan said he wanted to go that McDaniels allowed it.

same situation as with Turner and Dennison. they are gone because they chose to go to situations where they were promoted and got to work with guys they have been friends with for years.

Or perhaps Dennison, Turner, and Nolan left Denver b/c they couldn't stand working for a polarizing devisive little PRICK like the unproven Boy-Wonder McDaniels.

BroncoMan4ever
02-16-2010, 07:28 PM
According to your logic then McD is an assistant coach Killer...is he not? Turner, Dennison, and Nolan all left town due to McD's polarizing personality...RIGHT!

they all left for better offers.

Dennison is now an OC in Houston, and Turner is something like assistant to the head coach or some crap in Washington. they both got promoted. Nolan wanted to go to Miami for whatever reason.

however if you recall in all 3 situations McDaniels originally said no to those teams wanting to interview these guys. it wasn't until the promotion offers and being asked to allow them to interview that he agreed.

rastaman
02-16-2010, 07:31 PM
A 90-degree turn around would cut the INTs in half. So, look for Cutler to throw "no more" than 13 INTs.

With my "stellar" record of prognostication, this is guaranteed not to happen...;D

If Cutler cuts his interceptions down to 18 this season that would be a huge improvement for him. I'm hoping he does. In fact under Martz and one year of knowing his WR's tendencies, timing and his WR's learn Jay's tendencies, Butler should return to the pro bowl in 2010.

extralife
02-16-2010, 07:37 PM
I wonder if there will come a time on this Denver Broncos message board where we can go a day without jizzing over the Chicago Bears or Washington Redskins

BroncoMan4ever
02-16-2010, 07:37 PM
If Cutler cuts his interceptions down to 18 this season that would be a huge improvement for him. I'm hoping he does. In fact under Martz and one year of knowing his WR's tendencies, timing and his WR's learn Jay's tendencies, Butler should return to the pro bowl in 2010.

yeah, with 18 INTs he gets back to the level of mediocrity he was at in 2008

and he might go to the pro bowl by default because of Warner and Favre retiring

but i doubt he unseats Brees, Romo, Rodgers, Ryan and potentially McNabb for a spot in the pro bowl.

Soul-Bronco
02-16-2010, 07:39 PM
when cutler throws for 25 + ints next season the cutler co^% suckers will says its because its the first year in martz system. . . . . . . . aint that a bitch

oubronco
02-16-2010, 07:39 PM
First, you're full of ****. What you said in this very thread was that you expect nothing but bad things from orton. Don't try to weasel and say you don't bag on Orton. Good grief.

oubronco means what he says and says what he means, but has trouble remembering what he said, evidently.

And claiming that people who rag on Cutler for being a whiny little b**** of a woman in a skirt also rag on Marshall, Scheffler, Hillis, et al, isn't really correct. I have different reasons for being ill at ease about Marshall. Don't have a problem with Scheffler. Have no beef with DJ. And my problem with Hillis stems from those folks who think he can do no wrong.

But sure. I bag on Cutler and everyone else.

Interesting what passes for reality around here.

Dude first off who shyt in your wheaties? and this is what I wrote:

So what happens when Cutler turns it around are you guys still gonna bag on him even when Orton stinks up the place

Just curious

I should've wrote and I meant "IF" Orton stinks it up so fuggin shoot me

Damn you guys take this shyt personal

BroncoMan4ever
02-16-2010, 07:39 PM
I wonder if there will come a time on this Denver Broncos message board where we can go a day without jizzing over the Chicago Bears or Washington Redskins

my guess is as soon as Cutler Intercepts his way into being a backup, journeyman or out of the league and Shanahan retires, the day after will be free of talk about those 2 teams

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-16-2010, 08:32 PM
Dude first off who shyt in your wheaties? and this is what I wrote:

So what happens when Cutler turns it around are you guys still gonna bag on him even when Orton stinks up the place

Just curious

I should've wrote and I meant "IF" Orton stinks it up so fuggin shoot me

Damn you guys take this shyt personal

I'm not taking it personal. It bothers me when some ****ing oklahoma-schooled moron doesn't realize the significant difference between "if" and "when," then demands answers about what happens "WHEN" a hypothetical occurs.

Think. Type. Think comes first.

BroncoInferno
02-16-2010, 09:22 PM
It wasn't just that Cutler didn't play well; Chicago's player personnel decisions have been piss poor for awhile now. Don't forget they also traded a 2010 2nd round choice for Gaines Adams who made no impact and is now dead.

Gort
02-16-2010, 11:07 PM
it actually has a lot to do with Jay. if Cutler hadn't taken a legit run at setting the single season INT mark and had done better than 6-10 or 7-9 whatever they were, i seriously doubt any offensive coaches get fired and doubt seriously that DePaul is escorted out of the building.

the talk of him being a coach killer may be a bit premature, but it can also be said he was somewhat instrumental in the dismissal of these guys

he got a "coach for life" fired in denver. it's not premature to label him a coach killer. he is jeff george v2.0.

BroncoMan4ever
02-16-2010, 11:18 PM
he got a "coach for life" fired in denver. it's not premature to label him a coach killer. he is jeff george v2.0.

as much as i dislike Cutler, i believe it was Shanahan saying he was sticking with Slowdick that ended his tenure

BroncoBuff
02-17-2010, 01:18 AM
cutler is a budding director of pro personnel killer.

:spit:

rastaman
02-17-2010, 03:57 AM
I don't know the answer to that.

IF it happens, I'll probably still want to see if he wins games he should win, or wins important games, or makes the playoffs, or...

If Orton lights the world on fire, are you still going to bag on him even though he's on your team?

When has Orton ever lit the world on fire.;)

Traveler
02-17-2010, 04:49 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4916957

Chicago Bears senior director of pro personnel Bobby DePaul has been relieved of his duties, the team announced Monday.
DePaul headed the organization's pro personnel department for the last nine seasons. According to the team's media guide, DePaul "evaluated players in all ranks of professional football, prepared the club for its acquisitions through trades, free agency or the waiver wire, managed the advance scouting of Bears opponents ... and had a hand in day-to-day football operations."
DePaul was probably best known for orchestrating the Jay Cutler trade. According to the Chicago Tribune, he was escorted out of Halas Hall, the team's practice facility.
DePaul not only engineered the Cutler trade, which sent then-starter Kyle Orton to the Denver Broncos, along with draft picks, he also played a big part in acquiring free agents such as offensive lineman John Tait and running back Thomas Jones. The Tribune also reported that while DePaul's relationship with general manager Jerry Angelo was considered strong, it was known among insiders that DePaul and coach Lovie Smith didn't always agree.
DePaul came to the Bears in 2001 with Angelo after serving as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles player personnel department as a scout after an eight-year career as an NFL assistant coach. DePaul was hired by then-Redskins' defensive coordinator Richie Petitbon in 1989 and was on Washington's staff when the Redskins won Super Bowl XXVI over Buffalo. He then served as a coach on the Cincinnati Bengals staff before going to Philadelphia.

Cutler got traded again?:wiggle:

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-17-2010, 07:03 AM
When has Orton ever lit the world on fire.;)

When has Cutler ever "turned it around"?

When have you ever said something useful?

When has Mock ever been anything less than completely hammered?

Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it will never happen.

oubronco
02-17-2010, 07:13 AM
I'm not taking it personal. It bothers me when some ****ing oklahoma-schooled moron doesn't realize the significant difference between "if" and "when," then demands answers about what happens "WHEN" a hypothetical occurs.

Think. Type. Think comes first.

Dude you have issues and thanks for the name calling your cool

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-17-2010, 07:17 AM
Dude you have issues and thanks for the name calling your cool

My cool what?

Thanks for proving my point. Perhaps next time you'll think it through before you post.

oubronco
02-17-2010, 07:18 AM
Here's one to think through

**** YOU or better yet go **** a moose

CEH
02-17-2010, 07:18 AM
Actually a 90 degree turn would be a lateral move.


At best it is a quarter turn amounting to a 25% reduction.

I'm not a math major but isn't 90% and a quarter turn the same thing :wave:

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-17-2010, 07:19 AM
Here's one to think through

**** YOU

LOL

You take this stuff too personal, man. You've got issues.

oubronco
02-17-2010, 07:20 AM
LOL

You take this stuff too personal, man. You've got issues.

yep it's that damn moose guy :welcome:

Rabb
02-17-2010, 08:37 AM
Here's one to think through

**** YOU or better yet go **** a moose

ignore, it's a beautiful feature bro

I had to ignore moosey...not even because I disagree with his takes, but because he is as bad as tsi anymore

BroncoMan4ever
02-17-2010, 01:26 PM
I'm not a math major but isn't 90% and a quarter turn the same thing :wave:

yes. a 360 degree turn would basically result in him being the same. 180 would turn him completely around making it a half turn. and 90 would be a quarter turn

BroncoMan4ever
02-17-2010, 01:27 PM
When has Orton ever lit the world on fire.;)

when has Cutler taken mediocre teams to the playoffs? because Orton has