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ZONA
02-10-2010, 05:58 PM
If the draft could go exactly how you want it (within reason, Suh is not falling down to #10/11, stuff like that, you get the point) let's see how it looks for you.

This is mine. My perfect draft involves some trading down and picking up some additional later picks. I also like to work it so I can land an extra high pick for the next years draft (2011). You always get more value when you can somehow get picks for the following year, they are not as worth much right now, but the following year you are happy to have them. I think the players I have selected will be there at the selections we have (or get via trades).

1st Round - #10/11 (we trade down to #18) The Steelers really want to move up and get Dez Bryant to give their passing game some kick. We pass on asking for their 2010 2nd round pick and instead we get their 2011 2nd round pick and their 2010 3rd round pick. By not asking for the 2010 2nd round pick, they are happy to make the deal.

1st Round - with #18 Broncos select Mike Iutapi (G) 6'6 330

2nd Round - with #45 Broncos select Colt McCoy (QB) 6'3 210

3rd Round - with #80 Broncos select Terrence Cody (NT) 6'4 370
3rd Round - with #82 (from Pitt) Broncos select JD Walton (C) 6'3 300

4th Round - with #128 Broncos select Micah Johnson (ILB) 6'2 258

5th Round - No Picks

6th Round - ??? (I haven't gotten that far yet in my research)

Dr. Broncenstein
02-10-2010, 06:35 PM
http://www.paulryburn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ytap.jpg

That one right in the center is the perfect draft.

My perfect draft. Let me show you it.

elsid13
02-10-2010, 06:45 PM
Really Yuengling? Why don't you go for PBR

tsiguy96
02-10-2010, 06:50 PM
i like yours, dont think i like colt though.

Dr. Broncenstein
02-10-2010, 06:51 PM
Really Yuengling? Why don't you go for PBR

PBR is pretty damn good on tap as well. I mean... it won a blue ribbon! Amirite?

Yuengling is mighty fine stuff, although I must admit half of the attraction is the fact that I can't get it in Oklahoma.

Dr. Broncenstein
02-10-2010, 06:53 PM
i like yours, dont think i like colt though.

:rofl: Your football discussion got beersnobbjacked. Sorry dood.

listopencil
02-10-2010, 07:09 PM
Mmm..........


http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-94109722669213_2090_5675948

Carmelo15
02-10-2010, 07:27 PM
I'm doing this mock based on the assumption we resign all of our big time free agents (Dumervil, Marshall, Orton, Kuper). I think this will cost us a lot to keep these guys and we stand pat otherwise. We want to get beefier and tougher on our lines but guys like Seymour, Wilfork, and Mankins are either franchised or the teams want too much in return in a trade. In the draft, I expect McDaniels to move his way around the board targeting the guys he covets much like he did last year


-#10 (Trade Down) The Buccaneers get their DT at #3 in Gerald McCoy. They still need a big time WR threat. They make a bold move to get the best WR in the draft, Dez Bryant. In return we get the 35th, 42nd, and 67th picks in the draft. We now have the 35, 42, 45, 67, and 80th picks in this deep draft class.

-#24 - (From Philadelphia) - Mike Iupati G Idaho - We trade back into the 1st round using two of the picks we got from Tampa Bay (#42 & 67). We get our mauling left guard. Paired with Clady from Boise we now have the "Mashing Potatoes" on the left side of our line for the next decade. We still have the #35, 45, & 80 picks in the draft.

- #35 - Terrence Cody NT Alabama - We get our bruising nose tackle. This guy drops because of weight problems and he is only a 2 down player. But he does wat he does best, STOPS THE RUN. We still have Ronald Fields and I believe Fields would be a great guy on 3rd downs. We could even play Fields at end on obvious running downs. We get two big maulers with our first two picks. These guys add beef and toughness on both sides of the trenches.

- #45 - Brandon Spikes ILB Florida - McDaniels makes another pick to help us stop the run. Andra Davis did a fine job the first half of the season but he wore down and is getting old. Spikes does well against the run, and struggles in coverage. D.J. will help cover up this weakness and Spikes and concentrate on doing what he does best, making tackles.

- #80 - Javier Arenas - CB/KR Alabama - McDaniels likes Saban guys and gets another one in Arenas. He's a tough physical corner and is a great kick returner as well. I expect him to make much more of an impact than Alphonso Smith did. lol

Ray Finkle
02-10-2010, 07:35 PM
if we draft Colt McCoy, I will punch myself in the face...

ZONA
02-10-2010, 07:50 PM
I'm doing this mock based on the assumption we resign all of our big time free agents (Dumervil, Marshall, Orton, Kuper). I think this will cost us a lot to keep these guys and we stand pat otherwise. We want to get beefier and tougher on our lines but guys like Seymour, Wilfork, and Mankins are either franchised or the teams want too much in return in a trade. In the draft, I expect McDaniels to move his way around the board targeting the guys he covets much like he did last year


-#10 (Trade Down) The Buccaneers get their DT at #3 in Gerald McCoy. They still need a big time WR threat. They make a bold move to get the best WR in the draft, Dez Bryant. In return we get the 35th, 42nd, and 67th picks in the draft. We now have the 35, 42, 45, 67, and 80th picks in this deep draft class.

-#24 - (From Philadelphia) - Mike Iupati G Idaho - We trade back into the 1st round using two of the picks we got from Tampa Bay (#42 & 67). We get our mauling left guard. Paired with Clady from Boise we now have the "Mashing Potatoes" on the left side of our line for the next decade. We still have the #35, 45, & 80 picks in the draft.

- #35 - Terrence Cody NT Alabama - We get our bruising nose tackle. This guy drops because of weight problems and he is only a 2 down player. But he does wat he does best, STOPS THE RUN. We still have Ronald Fields and I believe Fields would be a great guy on 3rd downs. We could even play Fields at end on obvious running downs. We get two big maulers with our first two picks. These guys add beef and toughness on both sides of the trenches.

- #45 - Brandon Spikes ILB Florida - McDaniels makes another pick to help us stop the run. Andra Davis did a fine job the first half of the season but he wore down and is getting old. Spikes does well against the run, and struggles in coverage. D.J. will help cover up this weakness and Spikes and concentrate on doing what he does best, making tackles.

- #80 - Javier Arenas - CB/KR Alabama - McDaniels likes Saban guys and gets another one in Arenas. He's a tough physical corner and is a great kick returner as well. I expect him to make much more of an impact than Alphonso Smith did. lol

Intersting draft. I do like the Spikes pick at #45 but taking Cody at #35 I think is still too high. I don't think he goes until late 2nd or early to mid 3rd.




What? Nobody has a draft yet that includes Dan Williams? Wow.

Yeah, and thanks for turning a cool thread into a stupid beer lovers thread, that's weak. But every thread has to have it's usual clowns.

Archer81
02-10-2010, 07:58 PM
Whats wrong with beer? I want to wait until after the combine before I produce a mock draft.


:Broncos:

BroncoMan4ever
02-10-2010, 08:07 PM
i'm saying we end up with 2-1st rounders in this draft. i think we will try to keep Marshall, but the Ravens are going to cock block us and give him an offer we can't match and we end up with their 1st and 3rd.

i am only doing rounds 1, 2, and 3 because i haven't really started to pay much attention to later round prospects yet.

10 Dan Williams NT
25(from Baltimore) Mike Iupati LG
45 Brandon Spikes ILB
80 Jevan Snead QB
88?(From Baltimore) Eric Olsen C

also on a side note in the rounds 4-7 I would like us to pick up one of Blount, Anthony Dixon, or Toby Gerhart. big strong bruiser of a back that we can use in the red zone and in situations where power is needed more than speed and agility

strafen
02-10-2010, 08:10 PM
Not to McCoy!

misturanderson
02-10-2010, 08:29 PM
My perfect draft:

Trade Hillis for 2 1sts

1st round A: Suh
1st round B: G. McCoy
1st round C: Berry
2nd round: Iutapi
3rd round: D. Williams
4th round: McClain
6th round: Bradford
7th round: Bryant

Was it supposed to be even remotely realistic?

24champ
02-10-2010, 08:34 PM
http://www.alaskanbeer.com/images/wbadvert/1.jpg?r=42ca49863a1ba0180c537d521ca9f92c

misturanderson
02-10-2010, 08:34 PM
http://www.alaskanbeer.com/images/wbadvert/1.jpg?r=42ca49863a1ba0180c537d521ca9f92c

That's good stuff.

24champ
02-10-2010, 08:36 PM
http://www.newbelgium.com/files/beerglassimage/beers_ra.png?1263547879

Rohirrim
02-10-2010, 09:13 PM
Okay, I'll go with the scenario that the Broncos put the big price tag on Marshall and the Ravens give up their 1st and 3rd. Then the Broncos take:

11. Dan Williams, DT, Tenn
25. Golden Tate, WR, ND
45. Tyson Alualu, DE/OLB, Cal
80. Mike Johnson, LG, Alabama
88. Kyle Calloway, RT, Iowa
111. AJ Edds, LB, Iowa
173. JD Walton, C, Baylor
204. Sean Canfield, QB, Oregon St.

Mogulseeker
02-10-2010, 09:35 PM
If the draft could go exactly how you want it (within reason, Suh is not falling down to #10/11, stuff like that, you get the point) let's see how it looks for you.

This is mine. My perfect draft involves some trading down and picking up some additional later picks. I also like to work it so I can land an extra high pick for the next years draft (2011). You always get more value when you can somehow get picks for the following year, they are not as worth much right now, but the following year you are happy to have them. I think the players I have selected will be there at the selections we have (or get via trades).

1st Round - #10/11 (we trade down to #18) The Steelers really want to move up and get Dez Bryant to give their passing game some kick. We pass on asking for their 2010 2nd round pick and instead we get their 2011 2nd round pick and their 2010 3rd round pick. By not asking for the 2010 2nd round pick, they are happy to make the deal.

1st Round - with #18 Broncos select Mike Iutapi (G) 6'6 330

2nd Round - with #45 Broncos select Colt McCoy (QB) 6'3 210

3rd Round - with #80 Broncos select Terrence Cody (NT) 6'4 370
3rd Round - with #82 (from Pitt) Broncos select JD Walton (C) 6'3 300

4th Round - with #128 Broncos select Micah Johnson (ILB) 6'2 258

5th Round - No Picks

6th Round - ??? (I haven't gotten that far yet in my research)

This would be pretty sweet actually.

I want Iutapi

Broncoman13
02-10-2010, 09:45 PM
10 Dez Bryant, WR
25(from Baltimore for BMarsh) Mike Iupati LG
45 Brandon Spikes ILB
80 Jevan Snead QB
88?(From Baltimore) Eric Olsen C

Then make a play for a DT in Free Agency. While I like Williams, #10/11 is too high for him. I'd also consider Mt. Cody at #45. And, if LeFevour or Colt McCoy are available at #80, you take them over Sneed.

baja
02-10-2010, 10:46 PM
Are we really going to drFT A GUARD IN THE FIRST ROUND?

BroncoMan4ever
02-10-2010, 10:56 PM
Are we really going to drFT A GUARD IN THE FIRST ROUND?

did you see our interior line play this past season?

Dagmar
02-10-2010, 11:02 PM
Are we really going to drFT A GUARD IN THE FIRST ROUND?

Don't you hate when you press caps lock instead of A?!?!

baja
02-10-2010, 11:09 PM
Don't you hate when you press caps lock instead of A?!?!

Ya and I refuse to fix it too.

I have looked up and seen paragraph after paragraph in caps and retyped it for years but NO MORE. It stays for all to see my fucck up..

gunns
02-10-2010, 11:18 PM
My perfect draft would include Suh or McCoy but that isn't happening sooooo, yes I want to keep Marshall, BUT if that doesn't happen we trade him to Baltimore for their 1st and 3rd, trade Scheffler to Washington for their 4th.

(1)11. Dan Williams

(1)25. Iupati

(2)45. Dexter McCluster, RB, maybe a QB but I can't see one for the future

(3)80. Damian Williams, WR

(3)88. Lamarr Houston, DT

(4)100. Myron Rolle, safety

(4)111. Koa Misi, OLB

(6) Eric Olsen, C

(7) Zoltan Mesko, punter

TheReverend
02-10-2010, 11:31 PM
This is too early, imo.

There are guys like Carlos Dunlap that COULD bulk up a bit for a 3-4 DE or be perfect at setting the edge at OLB. As is, he's pretty much a wet dream for any 4-3 team, but he's too talented to not translate well.

There are guys like Brian Price that could shoot up the board because he isn't currently getting the scout recognition that he deserves as a large, freak athlete with unrefined coaching.

BUT

If necessary I'd say:

10 Carlos Dunlap Gators (DE)
45 Brandon Spikes Gators (Destroyer of offenses, LB)
80 Mike Johnson - Alabama (IOL)
111 Mike Neal - Purdue (DT)
173 Shaun Loavao or whatever from Arizona State (IOL)
204 Clifton Gethers from South Carolina (DE)

misturanderson
02-10-2010, 11:41 PM
This is too early, imo.

There are guys like Carlos Dunlap that COULD bulk up a bit for a 3-4 DE or be perfect at setting the edge at OLB. As is, he's pretty much a wet dream for any 4-3 team, but he's too talented to not translate well.

There are guys like Brian Price that could shoot up the board because he isn't currently getting the scout recognition that he deserves as a large, freak athlete with unrefined coaching.

BUT

If necessary I'd say:

10 Carlos Dunlap Gators (DE)
45 Brandon Spikes Gators (Destroyer of offenses, LB)
80 Mike Johnson - Alabama (IOL)
111 Mike Neal - Purdue (DT)
173 Shaun Loavao or whatever from Arizona State (IOL)
204 Clifton Gethers from South Carolina (DE)

When was the last time that a gator DL played up to his potential? Kearse (if you count his career as successful)? I don't trust any defensive linemen from that school. LBs and secondary players seem to do well though.

TheReverend
02-10-2010, 11:55 PM
When was the last time that a gator DL played up to his potential? Kearse (if you count his career as successful)? I don't trust any defensive linemen from that school. LBs and secondary players seem to do well though.

Who from Florida has matched up with Dunlap in regards to:

Tangibles
Skill set
On the field production

Considering Kearse is the only one who's collegiate career thus far even stacks up, and he's dwarfed by Dunlap's size. Idk what the point you're trying to make is. I'm guessing Jarvis Moss... but I can't envision how you could possibly relate the two?

UberBroncoMan
02-10-2010, 11:58 PM
I read this as.

Your PERFECT Dark - let's see it.

... man I loved that game.

P.S.

In Madden I just beat Cutler and the Bears in the Super Bowl.

I picked him off 5 times.

OBF1
02-11-2010, 01:29 AM
I will man up and tell you that I prefer good ole Coors Light.

Ramathorn
02-11-2010, 05:11 AM
http://www.paulryburn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ytap.jpg

That one right in the center is the perfect draft.

My perfect draft. Let me show you it.

Ive never tasted monkey piss,but if i had, im sure that it and your fav beer would taste the exact same.

Rohirrim
02-11-2010, 06:22 AM
Who from Florida has matched up with Dunlap in regards to:

Tangibles
Skill set
On the field production

Considering Kearse is the only one who's collegiate career thus far even stacks up, and he's dwarfed by Dunlap's size. Idk what the point you're trying to make is. I'm guessing Jarvis Moss... but I can't envision how you could possibly relate the two?

Except Dunlap was found sitting in a running car, in park, at a stop light, passed out drunk, a couple of days before the biggest game in his college career. I wouldn't want to spend a first round pick on that player.

worm
02-11-2010, 06:31 AM
Ya and I refuse to fix it too.

I have looked up and seen paragraph after paragraph in caps and retyped it for years but NO MORE. It stays for all to see my fucck up..

You need to spend some time with:

http://www.evilscale.com/images/1118200871102pm.jpg

Dr. Broncenstein
02-11-2010, 07:03 AM
Ive never tasted monkey piss,but if i had, im sure that it and your fav beer would taste the exact same.

Thats more monkey piss for me

cmhargrove
02-11-2010, 07:09 AM
My perfect draft would include Suh or McCoy but that isn't happening sooooo, yes I want to keep Marshall, BUT if that doesn't happen we trade him to Baltimore for their 1st and 3rd, trade Scheffler to Washington for their 4th.

(1)11. Dan Williams

(1)25. Iupati

(2)45. Dexter McCluster, RB, maybe a QB but I can't see one for the future

(3)80. Damian Williams, WR

(3)88. Lamarr Houston, DT

(4)100. Myron Rolle, safety

(4)111. Koa Misi, OLB

(6) Eric Olsen, C

(7) Zoltan Mesko, punter

So far, i'm buying this one - "Make it so, number one."

dbfan21
02-11-2010, 08:49 AM
I'm doing this mock based on the assumption we resign all of our big time free agents (Dumervil, Marshall, Orton, Kuper). I think this will cost us a lot to keep these guys and we stand pat otherwise. We want to get beefier and tougher on our lines but guys like Seymour, Wilfork, and Mankins are either franchised or the teams want too much in return in a trade. In the draft, I expect McDaniels to move his way around the board targeting the guys he covets much like he did last year


-#10 (Trade Down) The Buccaneers get their DT at #3 in Gerald McCoy. They still need a big time WR threat. They make a bold move to get the best WR in the draft, Dez Bryant. In return we get the 35th, 42nd, and 67th picks in the draft. We now have the 35, 42, 45, 67, and 80th picks in this deep draft class.

-#24 - (From Philadelphia) - Mike Iupati G Idaho - We trade back into the 1st round using two of the picks we got from Tampa Bay (#42 & 67). We get our mauling left guard. Paired with Clady from Boise we now have the "Mashing Potatoes" on the left side of our line for the next decade. We still have the #35, 45, & 80 picks in the draft.

- #35 - Terrence Cody NT Alabama - We get our bruising nose tackle. This guy drops because of weight problems and he is only a 2 down player. But he does wat he does best, STOPS THE RUN. We still have Ronald Fields and I believe Fields would be a great guy on 3rd downs. We could even play Fields at end on obvious running downs. We get two big maulers with our first two picks. These guys add beef and toughness on both sides of the trenches.

- #45 - Brandon Spikes ILB Florida - McDaniels makes another pick to help us stop the run. Andra Davis did a fine job the first half of the season but he wore down and is getting old. Spikes does well against the run, and struggles in coverage. D.J. will help cover up this weakness and Spikes and concentrate on doing what he does best, making tackles.

- #80 - Javier Arenas - CB/KR Alabama - McDaniels likes Saban guys and gets another one in Arenas. He's a tough physical corner and is a great kick returner as well. I expect him to make much more of an impact than Alphonso Smith did. lol

Hilarious! on the mashing potatoes comment.

I would be very happy with this. I like all the players and believe they could be instant impact kinda guys for us.

LonghornBronco
02-11-2010, 10:09 AM
11) Earl Thomas, S
45) Colt McCoy, QB
80) Jordan Shipley, WR
111) Lamar Houston, DT
128) Roddick Muckleroy, OLB
173) Adam Ulatoski, G
204) Chris Hall, C

Hook'em

gunns
02-11-2010, 10:17 AM
Who from Florida has matched up with Dunlap in regards to:

Tangibles
Skill set
On the field production

Considering Kearse is the only one who's collegiate career thus far even stacks up, and he's dwarfed by Dunlap's size. Idk what the point you're trying to make is. I'm guessing Jarvis Moss... but I can't envision how you could possibly relate the two?

Maybe he's referring to Alex Brown, Reggie McGrew, Ellis Johnson, yes Gerard Warren (he DID NOT live up to his potential), Jarvis Moss, and let's not forget Mark Campbell. Two is a coincidence, three is a trend.

TheReverend
02-11-2010, 10:49 AM
Maybe he's referring to Alex Brown, Reggie McGrew, Ellis Johnson, yes Gerard Warren (he DID NOT live up to his potential), Jarvis Moss, and let's not forget Mark Campbell. Two is a coincidence, three is a trend.

Let's take a look at this list and reduce it to anything that might be relevant by first removing all pre-Urban Myer players. After all, would you say the Broncos can't develop defensive line talent NOW because of position coaches that left with Shanahan? Of course, not, because that would be silly and just lazy and/or dumb. So that leaves us with:

Maybe he's referring to Jarvis Moss. Two is a coincidence, three is a trend.

And it was highly documented that Moss had a volume of questions coming into the draft ranging from lack of playing time and experience, to his ability vs the run and lacking the size and would be an NFL project/package player.

This is without even mentioning that the position coach for Moss, Thomas etc was Greg Mattison whereas Dunlap has received the wealth of his development from Dan McCarney who also placed George Selvie on the radar before leaving USF.

Except Dunlap was found sitting in a running car, in park, at a stop light, passed out drunk, a couple of days before the biggest game in his college career. I wouldn't want to spend a first round pick on that player.

Now this is a valid concern. But by "a couple days" I'm sure you meant to say "almost a month and a half". Also, how did he perform in that pressure of biggest game in his college career? Defensive MVP you say?

Requiem
02-11-2010, 11:31 AM
Dunlap is so-so. Not a lot of experience, runs hot and cold. Still raw. Very young though. Extreme upside. Not sure if he's a top ten guy though.

TheReverend
02-11-2010, 11:48 AM
Dunlap is so-so. Not a lot of experience, runs hot and cold. Still raw. Very young though. Extreme upside. Not sure if he's a top ten guy though.

2 years All SEC as a junior with that size and skill-set... he's a great combine away from potentially going top 5... and maybe high in that five. Time will tell. Let's see how fast he can run in a straight line, lol

elsid13
02-11-2010, 11:53 AM
2 years All SEC as a junior with that size and skill-set... he's a great combine away from potentially going top 5... and maybe high in that five. Time will tell. Let's see how fast he can run in a straight line, lol

The problem is, he has all the physical ability to be a stud, but he doesn't flash week in and week out. He remind me a lot of Micheal Johnson from GA TECH last year, great looking player that doesn't make enough plays.

Rohirrim
02-11-2010, 11:53 AM
Now this is a valid concern. But by "a couple days" I'm sure you meant to say "almost a month and a half". Also, how did he perform in that pressure of biggest game in his college career? Defensive MVP you say?

Being found in a running car passed out says to me, "Drinking problem." I consider first round picks the foundation of a franchise. I wouldn't gamble one on a guy with this on his record. But that's just me.

elsid13
02-11-2010, 11:54 AM
Being found in a running car passed out says to me, "Drinking problem." I consider first round picks the foundation of a franchise. I wouldn't gamble one on a guy with this on his record. But that's just me.

Then you don't want Denver drafting Kindle either huh? He actually drove his car drunk into building

Rohirrim
02-11-2010, 11:56 AM
Then don't want Denver drafting Kindle either huh? He actually drove his car drunk into building

I wouldn't do it. Maybe I would gamble on somebody in the later rounds, but a top ten pick? Nope. Too expensive.

Carmelo15
02-11-2010, 11:58 AM
My feelings on Carlos Dunlap are something like Whitney Houston...HELL TO THE NAW!!! Dude is gonna be a bust. That has Raiders pick all over it a.k.a. draft a great athlete thats a dumbass with poor work ethic. I felt the same way about Jarvis Moss, lucky for me we ended up drafting that bum!

Elway777
02-11-2010, 12:11 PM
The Broncos trade Marshall to Miami for 12 pick plus 5 rounder. the Broncos trade scheffler to Bengals for a 3 rounder. The broncos trade Marcus thomas to Detroit for 5 rounder.

1a. Sam Bradford
1b Dan Williams
2. Demaryius Thomas
3a. J. D. Walton
3b Andre Roberts
4. Rodger Scaffold. left Guard
5a Dekoda Watson, Middle linebacker
5b Dorin Dickerson,Te-fb
6. Arthur Moats
7. Devin Ross
Undrafted free agents Leroy Vann,Matt Dodge,,Micro McSwain, Marc Mariani,Deji Karim ,Pat Pashall, Jurior Galette, and Patrick Stoudamire

Broncos resign Dumervil, Orton , Kuper, holliday
Free agents , Dwan Edwards, Nic Clemens, Ellis Hobbs

sgbfan
02-11-2010, 01:16 PM
Marshall to Miami for their 1 and 3. Sheffler to whoever for a 4.

1a LB McClain
1b DT Williams
2. WR Golden Tate
3a and 3b Best Available G and C (no idea who might be available)
4a TE Dennis Pitta
4b QB Jevan Snead

Haven't thought beyond this.

Requiem
02-11-2010, 01:38 PM
The problem is, he has all the physical ability to be a stud, but he doesn't flash week in and week out. He remind me a lot of Micheal Johnson from GA TECH last year, great looking player that doesn't make enough plays.

Doesn't seem to be very strong at the P.O.A., despite his size. Extremely inconsistent in that regard. He won't be putting up the sack numbers he did in college (and they were mediocre on a talented Florida defense) playing a 3-4 end for this team. I'd rather Wooten or the like somewhere in round two than Dunlap that early.

Rabb
02-11-2010, 01:44 PM
Ive never tasted monkey piss,but if i had, im sure that it and your fav beer would taste the exact same.

wow

seriously, the only thing I miss from the east coast is the Yuengling Black and Tan

that beer is awesome

Great13
02-11-2010, 01:45 PM
It's time we got BIGGER and BADDER in the trenches.... We can address any other needs in FA.

*NO Trades*

1. Dan Williams - DT
2. Maurkice Pouncey -C/OG
3. Alex Carrington- DE
4. John Jerry- OG
6. LeGarrette Blount- RB
7. Antonio Brown- WR

If we did trade Marshall for a first... I would add Brandon Graham. You can never have enough pass rushers.. and he would afford us great flexibility in our pass rushing line up with Dumervil, Ayers, and Reid.

gunns
02-11-2010, 01:49 PM
Let's take a look at this list and reduce it to anything that might be relevant by first removing all pre-Urban Myer players. After all, would you say the Broncos can't develop defensive line talent NOW because of position coaches that left with Shanahan? Of course, not, because that would be silly and just lazy and/or dumb. So that leaves us with:


Sorry, I'm not willing to take a risk on a player from a school that hasn't produced a player that has shown "potential" at that position. I'll let another team be the guinea pig for that. I don't know that's it's always the coach either. Florida has always been known as a bad QB school. It hasn't changed with Meyers.

And it was highly documented that Moss had a volume of questions coming into the draft ranging from lack of playing time and experience, to his ability vs the run and lacking the size and would be an NFL project/package player.

This is without even mentioning that the position coach for Moss, Thomas etc was Greg Mattison whereas Dunlap has received the wealth of his development from Dan McCarney who also placed George Selvie on the radar before leaving USF.


How could someone that raw be projected for the first round? That makes me even more leery of Florida players. Is it because they're from a "top 10" school that these predictors give them 1st round potential? Scary stuff and to think we took that highly documented volume of questions.

Elway777
02-11-2010, 01:50 PM
Marshall to Miami for their 1 and 3. Sheffler to whoever for a 4.

1a LB McClain
1b DT Williams
2. WR Golden Tate
3a and 3b Best Available G and C (no idea who might be available)
4a TE Dennis Pitta
4b QB Jevan Snead

Haven't thought beyond this. I really like this and getting McClain ,Williams and Tate then adding Snead in the 4 round. That would be a A+.

sgbfan
02-11-2010, 02:11 PM
I really like this and getting McClain ,Williams and Tate then adding Snead in the 4 round. That would be a A+.

I don't know if Tate will be available, depends on the combine. Pitta would be a steal in the 4th. The guy can just catch. If he runs a fast time, I think he'll be long gone. But hey, that's why its my dream draft:)

PRBronco
02-11-2010, 02:28 PM
It's time we got BIGGER and BADDER in the trenches.... We can address any other needs in FA.

*NO Trades*

1. Dan Williams - DT
2. Maurkice Pouncey -C/OG
3. Alex Carrington- DE
4. John Jerry- OG
6. LeGarrette Blount- RB
7. Antonio Brown- WR

If we did trade Marshall for a first... I would add Brandon Graham. You can never have enough pass rushers.. and he would afford us great flexibility in our pass rushing line up with Dumervil, Ayers, and Reid.


I like this meaty draft, but I dunno if John Jerry will last until the 4th, he sounds like a "riser" right now. Also as much as I love Senior Bowl standouts, I'm not big on Brandon Graham. Pretty sure I'm the only one though. Also I might be tempted to use the 6th rounder on a CB instead of a running back.

Great13
02-11-2010, 03:32 PM
I like this meaty draft, but I dunno if John Jerry will last until the 4th, he sounds like a "riser" right now. Also as much as I love Senior Bowl standouts, I'm not big on Brandon Graham. Pretty sure I'm the only one though. Also I might be tempted to use the 6th rounder on a CB instead of a running back.

Yeah I thought about taking Jerry in the 3rd then maybe Cam Thomas in the 4th. But I think Carrington would make a good 3-4 DE. And we still have Olsen and possibly Kuper. So if Jerry is gone in the 4th.. then we can take a CB/ILB or just BPA.

OR instead of Graham.. grab Iupati. Clady, Iupati, Pouncey from left to right should solve our short yardage woes almost immediately. Iupati's holding in pass pro concerns me though.

I still think we need more speed in our pass rush though. Which is why I'm not in charge of drafting... the clock would run out on me constantly!

bombay
02-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Anyone remember the name of the small school QB whoes been bandied about a bit? Can't remember the name or the school.

PRBronco
02-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Anyone remember the name of the small school QB whoes been bandied about a bit? Can't remember the name or the school.

John Skelton....can't think of the school, too lazy to google :)

bombay
02-11-2010, 04:19 PM
John Skelton....can't think of the school, too lazy to google :)


Thanks.

robbieopperude
02-11-2010, 10:27 PM
21. Everson Griffen DE (Good fit for a 3/4 DE)
Via Trade B.Marshall & T.Scheffler to Cinci for 1st and 4th and 4th in 2011.
24. Mike Iupati OG (Just what we need on the interior of the OL)
via trade with Phili where Denver swaps 1st round picks and sends there 2011 3rd to Phili for D.McNabb
45. B. Spikes ILB (Florida Pedigree, Champion, Athletic Freak)
80. J. Arenas CB/KR (Winner, Smart, Hopefully better than Ty Law)
111. E.Olsen C (Fills a need)
117. Z.Robinson (I see him as a winner who is smart. Not overly physical but can make throws and is athletic) From Cinci.

We now have improved our DL, OL, QB and Sec Depth. We have reduced the quality of our WR corps but it may not be affected as much as people think. Take a look at Gaffneys production the last week of the season in Marshall's place. If Denver signs A.Bryant to a 2/3 year deal we also increase our depth there as well.

I have created a 10 win team minimum with great long term depth from this class. We also resign Dumervil and Kuper. My teams only problem is how long will the pro bowl QB level play. With todays rules McNabb could be good for another 5 years.

Paladin
02-11-2010, 10:36 PM
John Skelton....can't think of the school, too lazy to google :)

Fordam Rams. I think Vince Lombardi playerd there as one of the "Seven Blocks of Granite".

ZONA
02-12-2010, 02:18 AM
11) Earl Thomas, S
45) Colt McCoy, QB
80) Jordan Shipley, WR
111) Lamar Houston, DT
128) Roddick Muckleroy, OLB
173) Adam Ulatoski, G
204) Chris Hall, C

Hook'em

I do like that Shipley kid alot. People don't realize just how deep this draft class is. Moving down and getting more picks seems like a total no brainer to me. Move down a few spots in the first round and still get a guy you really like and then that gives you a chance to pick up some of these guys like Shipley in then 2nd and 3rd rounds with the extra picks.

Yikes, but I don't know about Thomas pick. Great player but I think between Dawkins and Hill, the starting positions are covered and for the most part, those players have played very well for us. And our depth at Safety is looking bright with Bruton and Barrett has shown some flashes also. But McD seems to love the secondary guys alot so I would definitely say it's not out of the question we could select Thomas in the first.

LonghornBronco
02-17-2010, 02:39 PM
with out trades mine looks like this

1 (11) BPA (Bradford QB, McClain ILB, or Haden DB)
2 (45) Terrance Cody DT (or Thomas Cam DT, N. Carolina)
3 (80) Aluala Tyson DE (Big DE true 3/4 end, must have)
4 (111) Matt Tennant C
5 No pick
6 (173) Marshall Newhouse OG
7 (204) Jon Skelton QB