View Full Version : Over 100,000 Children Waiting to be Adopted
Bronco_Beerslug
02-02-2010, 01:03 PM
I read some people here say if they could outlaw abortion that's all you have to do (put the child up for adoption).
But in reality, this isn't the case according to these figures.
It also appears that using agency or private adoption sources can be expensive, $5,000 to $40,000.
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One of the first things (http://affording.adoption.com/) families learn about adoption is that the fees associated with the cost of adoption can be substantial. It's easy to become overwhelmed and think it an impossible task to find the money required. Often, families can afford to raise a child, but affording adoption itself can be daunting.
Trends in Foster Care and Adoption (http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/trends.htm)—FY 2002-FY 2008
(Based on data submitted by states as of October 9, 2009)
Meck77
02-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Tax the shiat out of kids. Even guys like Travis Henry would probably figure out how to afford a condom. All you obama guys should love that idea! New taxes!
TailgateNut
02-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Calling Yavoon and McDramaSkillet!!!
Hello!
Oh, that's right. I forgot. Once they are born their attitude is "who give a flying ****.
TailgateNut
02-02-2010, 01:26 PM
Tax the shiat out of kids. Even guys like Travis Henry would probably figure out how to afford a condom.
Cmon Steve. Do you have any clue how much it costs to raise a child?
Tax children??? WTF are you babbling about.
Florida_Bronco
02-02-2010, 01:31 PM
I read some people here say if they could outlaw abortion that's all you have to do (put the child up for adoption).
But in reality, this isn't the case according to these figures.
It also appears that using agency or private adoption sources can be expensive, $5,000 to $40,000.
Damn. I knew the situation was bad, but not that bad.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Calling Yavoon and McDramaSkillet!!!
Hello!
Oh, that's right. I forgot. Once they are born their attitude is "who give a flying ****.
^ This.
If the convictions of the "pro-life" idiots were real or legit, then they'd be all over this.
Garcia Bronco
02-02-2010, 08:06 PM
The 5 to 40 k doesn't help. Plus, it's a difficult vetting process. It's not like buying a pack of cigs or evening buying a house. It's not easy.
gyldenlove
02-02-2010, 08:26 PM
Just sell kid licenses, 50 grand and if your kid makes it to 25 without having committed a crime or sired children without buying a license you get your money back.
yavoon
02-03-2010, 01:24 AM
Calling Yavoon and McDramaSkillet!!!
Hello!
Oh, that's right. I forgot. Once they are born their attitude is "who give a flying ****.
there's lotsa homeless people too, do you want to murder them so there are fewer of them as well?
I do not believe in murdering children for social benefit. not to kill future criminals, not to murder children that wouldn't have parents, or good enough parents, or both parents. or whatever other scenario or concept you can imagine.
I do not believe it is moral to murder children for social benefit.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Spider
02-03-2010, 01:34 AM
there's lotsa homeless people too, do you want to murder them so there are fewer of them as well?
I do not believe in murdering children for social benefit. not to kill future criminals, not to murder children that wouldn't have parents, or good enough parents, or both parents. or whatever other scenario or concept you can imagine.
I do not believe it is moral to murder children for social benefit.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
thats it ? your rebuttal ? you guys have been screaming adoption , over aborting what may be or not ( depending how long the pregnancy has gone ) and when presented with this fact on adoption comes to light , you utter this bull**** ? way to close your case goofball
watermock
02-03-2010, 02:05 AM
I'm looking point guard or WR...
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 06:58 AM
there's lotsa homeless people too, do you want to murder them so there are fewer of them as well?
I do not believe in murdering children for social benefit. not to kill future criminals, not to murder children that wouldn't have parents, or good enough parents, or both parents. or whatever other scenario or concept you can imagine.
I do not believe it is moral to murder children for social benefit.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You forgot to add: "and I don't give a **** about children once they emerge from the womb. At that point they they can go suck an egg".
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 07:35 AM
You forgot to add: "and I don't give a **** about children once they emerge from the womb. At that point they they can go suck an egg".
At least the get a chance.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 07:53 AM
At least the get a chance.
What is it with you people. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of children are neglected, waiting for adoption, starving to death but you don't acknowledge this to be an issue. But, a ****ing "organism" the size of a pin head is an issue.
epicSocialism4tw
02-03-2010, 08:28 AM
Go away Bronco Beerslug.
When you went outside of this site to attack a regular poster, you lost what little credibility you had.
Go find someone else to threaten.
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 08:35 AM
What is it with you people. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of children are neglected, waiting for adoption, starving to death but you don't acknowledge this to be an issue. But, a ****ing "organism" the size of a pin head is an issue.
It is an issue. It's an issue of people having sex and not be resposible for the consequences of their actions. This is the root cause. So you can have all the abortions you want...but you do not affect the cause.
Meck77
02-03-2010, 08:38 AM
What is it with you people. Hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of children are neglected, waiting for adoption, starving to death but you don't acknowledge this to be an issue. But, a ****ing "organism" the size of a pin head is an issue.
The issue is not abortion nor is it adoption.
Why not deter the idiots from even conceiving them? They say the divorce rate is 50%. It might be even higher.
Forget Bush, forget Obama. The problem is people having children and not taking care of them via child support or pushing them on the tax payer all together. The cost is surely in the trillions when you consider hospital care, welfare, prison costs etc.
Our government isn't as broken as much as the family unit. THAT is the problem.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 08:45 AM
It is an issue. It's an issue of people having sex and not be resposible for the consequences of their actions. This is the root cause. So you can have all the abortions you want...but you do not affect the cause.
One thing the religious right needs to do is to get off of their "abstinence only" spiel. It DOESN'T WORK. Sex education and access to birht control without the guilt trip will do wonders for teen and young adult pregnancy.
They are to attached to the "old ways" and haven't caught up with the times.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 08:47 AM
The issue is not abortion nor is it adoption.
Why not deter the idiots from even conceiving them? They say the divorce rate is 50%. It might be even higher.
Forget Bush, forget Obama. The problem is people having children and not taking care of them via child support or pushing them on the tax payer all together. The cost is surely in the trillions when you consider hospital care, welfare, prison costs etc.
Our government isn't as broken as much as the family unit. THAT is the problem.
Deter them??? By doing what? Regulating what happens behind closed doors?
Please elaborate how you would handle sex by teens and young adults with sex drives that mirror an elk in heat.
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 09:14 AM
One thing the religious right needs to do is to get off of their "abstinence only" spiel. It DOESN'T WORK. Sex education and access to birht control without the guilt trip will do wonders for teen and young adult pregnancy.
They are to attached to the "old ways" and haven't caught up with the times.
I don't know about the "Relgious Right" but abstinence is the only true way to avoid what appears to be an unwanted pregnancy. See you want to have your cake and eat it to and it just doesn't work that way all the the time. Sex edcucation is fine and so is access to birth control with parental consent, but don't act like abstinence education is bad, illogical, or wrong. You can call them "old ways", but damn if they don't work.
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 09:17 AM
Deter them??? By doing what? Regulating what happens behind closed doors?
Please elaborate how you would handle sex by teens and young adults with sex drives that mirror an elk in heat.
The best thing to do is to supervise them and not leave them with a bunch of free time. School activities are good, sports are good depending on the atmosphere. Obviously once they are 18 you have no control at all.
Meck77
02-03-2010, 09:18 AM
Personal responsibility.
epicSocialism4tw
02-03-2010, 09:27 AM
Personal responsibility.
What's that? ;D
Spider
02-03-2010, 09:31 AM
Personal responsibility.
**** happens , look at my triplets ......... they wasnt planed , in fact meds lead to that , so now what ? Rubbers break ......... then what ?
Bronco_Beerslug
02-03-2010, 09:37 AM
Go away Bronco Beerslug.
When you went outside of this site to attack a regular poster, you lost what little credibility you had.
Go find someone else to threaten.Look who chimed in, Mad Yak, the board hypocrite who thinks he knows something he doesn't. If I were you I would change my name too. Liars and pretenders like you are the worst excuses for taking air on the planet.
However, I do like the fact that you can't help but reading every word I post (and having that control over your little weasel persona).
epicSocialism4tw
02-03-2010, 09:42 AM
**** happens , look at my triplets ......... they wasnt planed , in fact meds lead to that , so now what ? Rubbers break ......... then what ?
You may not think so, but you can actually control what your penis does.
Bronco_Beerslug
02-03-2010, 10:12 AM
I don't know about the "Relgious Right" but abstinence is the only true way to avoid what appears to be an unwanted pregnancy. I would agree that but I think it only works somewhat with younger children, say 10-13 year olds. After that I would guess it's not effective by itself.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 10:23 AM
The best thing to do is to supervise them and not leave them with a bunch of free time. School activities are good, sports are good depending on the atmosphere. Obviously once they are 18 you have no control at all.
You have no experience to even chime in on how to raise children. It's ****ing hilarious when people who haven't had children make futile attempts to tell parents what works and doesn't work.
"Supervise them":spit: How about placing them in a cage and feeding them through a little opening? Would that work for you?
My children are 31, 24 and 15 and none of them have children and I didn't lock them up in their rooms, nor did I mandate activities.
Stop talking about **** wich you apparantly have no knowlegde nor experience dealing with.
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 10:26 AM
I would agree that but I think it only works somewhat with younger children, say 10-13 year olds. After that I would guess it's not effective by itself.
Bottom line is they are kids even when they turn 18 and as parents we need to supervise them. I agree though, that there needs to be more than one approach and I have no problem with contraception, but the point of sex is to reproduce and if you are engaging in that behavior, one needs to be aware on the consequences regardless of abortions or not. I don't want to meet the person that thinks abortion is a good idea as a means of birth control. That attitude speaks to the most irresponsible of people
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 10:28 AM
You have no experience to even chime in on how to raise children.
All it means is I am objective and the reality is this I have supervised more than 30 children in my life as a teenager and least we forget I was a child as well.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 10:28 AM
Bottom line is they are kids even when they turn 18 and as parents we need to supervise them. I agree though, that there needs to be more than one approach and I have no problem with contraception, but the point of sex is to reproduce and if you are engaging in that behavior, one needs to be aware on the consequences regardless of abortions or not. I don't want to meet the person that thinks abortion is a good idea as a means of birth control. That attitude speaks to the most irresponsible of people
So when are you finally going to have sex for the first time??Hilarious!
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 10:29 AM
All it means is I am objective and the reality is this I have supervised more than 30 children in my life as a teenager and least we forget I was a child as well.
You have supervised:rofl:
Okee Dokee!
Was this 24/7/365/for 18+yrs???
If not, STFU!
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 10:32 AM
"Supervise them":spit: How about placing them in a cage and feeding them through a little opening? Would that work for you?
I wouldn't recommend that approach. It would work, but you'll have other un-intended results.
Btw, L-Diddy I have a degree in developmental psychology. So I actually have a certification that says I am qualified. Where's yours?
Quotes from Parenthood
Helen: "It sounds like a boy Garry's age needs a man around the house. "
Tod: "Well, it depends on the man. I had a man around. He used to wake me up every morning by flicking lit cigarettes at my head. He'd say, "Hey, a-hole, get up and make me breakfast." You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, or drive a car. Hell, you need a license to catch a fish! But they'll let any butt-reaming a-hole be a father."
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 10:33 AM
You have supervised:rofl:
Okee Dokee!
Was this 24/7/365/for 18+yrs???
If not, STFU!
IT was 24/7 during the school year. I was their momma and their daddy to a great extent. From dealing with their pregnancy situations, to drug use, to their generally lack of discipline.
epicSocialism4tw
02-03-2010, 10:35 AM
IT was 24/7 during the school year. I was their momma and their daddy to a great extent. From dealing with their pregnancy situations, to drug use, to their generally lack of discipline.
Its no use man. Trying to have a conversation with Tailgatenutter is like trying to have a conversation with an angry cartoon character. There's smoke coming out of his ears and his face is the color of a pickled beet. He's stammering about yammering nonsense.
Meck77
02-03-2010, 10:45 AM
**** happens , look at my triplets ......... they wasnt planed , in fact meds lead to that , so now what ? Rubbers break ......... then what ?
**** happens? That is your description of life?
There are many types of birth control.
Again it's a matter of personal responsibility. It is very easy to not get a woman pregnant.
epicSocialism4tw
02-03-2010, 10:56 AM
**** happens? That is your description of life?
There are many types of birth control.
Again it's a matter of personal responsibility. It is very easy to not get a woman pregnant.
He also revealed something pretty dark about himself there. He refers to the birth of his triplets as "**** happens".
Not cool.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 11:04 AM
IT was 24/7 during the school year. I was their momma and their daddy to a great extent. From dealing with their pregnancy situations, to drug use, to their generally lack of discipline.
Ok, whatever you say. You were charged with being the "momma and daddy" of 30 children while you were a teenager. :spit:
I call your story "BULL****"!
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 11:06 AM
He also revealed something pretty dark about himself there. He refers to the birth of his triplets as "**** happens".
Not cool.
**** happened when you were born. That was also a dark time and not very COOL!:wiggle:
What's so hard to understand. He didn't plan to have triplets, and it happened. He just added the "sh".:wiggle:
Requiem
02-03-2010, 11:10 AM
McSkillet will do whatever is necessary to continue to hold on to his delusional mindset. "**** happens." is a common saying. We all know that Spider is proud of his family and couldn't be more blessed with the children he has.
yavoon
02-03-2010, 11:17 AM
You forgot to add: "and I don't give a **** about children once they emerge from the womb. At that point they they can go suck an egg".
another lie from what I can only guess is a professional liar. but hey since your position is "murder more children so there are fewer that need adopting" I can't expect much in the way of humanity.
DBruleU
02-03-2010, 11:23 AM
One thing the religious right needs to do is to get off of their "abstinence only" spiel. It DOESN'T WORK. Sex education and access to birht control without the guilt trip will do wonders for teen and young adult pregnancy.
They are to attached to the "old ways" and haven't caught up with the times.
http://www.aolnews.com/health/article/study-teaching-abstinence-works-better-than-sex-ed/19341448
Study: Teaching Abstinence Works Better Than Sex Ed
(Feb. 2) -- What if abstinence-only programs actually work?
That's the question facing educators this week after a groundbreaking study found that students who take classes emphasizing abstinence are less likely to have sex than those who take classes teaching safe sex.
Although the effectiveness and virtues of sex-ed versus abstinence-only curricula have long been the subject of fierce debate in American schools, the federal study, published in the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, is the first of its kind to suggest that programs encouraging students to abstain from having sex altogether are successful.
Just under half of the students in the study who received sex-education classes that included information about contraceptives went on to have sex in the next two years. But only one out of three students in the study who received abstinence-only education did.
Researchers say the long-term study, which followed 662 African-American public middle school students between 2001 and 2004, is significant. John Jemmott, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania who headed the study, told The Washington Post, "I think we've written off abstinence-only education without looking closely at the nature of the evidence. Our study shows this could be one approach that could be used."
Valerie Huber, the director of the National Abstinence Education Association, said in a phone interview Tuesday that the study should be "a policy-changing article."
Huber said she hopes President Obama and Congress will make a "course correction" on funding for abstinence-only programs. "The study shows abstinence really is much more than a 'say no' message," she said. "There needs to be a very targeted and specific abstinence approach that is funded separately from so-called comprehensive or safe sex funding."
The study, interestingly enough, comes at a time when teen pregnancy rates are up for the first time in a decade, and many liberal and abortion rights groups say the eight years of increased funding for abstinence-only programs during the Bush administration are to blame. President Barack Obama has pledged $114 million to address teen pregnancy but cut $170 million in funding for abstinence-only education last year after scores of studies showed such programs to be ineffective. Melody Barnes, the White House's domestic policy adviser, told USA Today that the decision to make the cuts simply "reflects the research."
But not everyone thinks it's fair to blame President George W. Bush and abstinence-only education for the increase in teen pregnancy. At Newsweek, Sarah Kliff points out that abstinence-only funding rose during the Clinton years as well, when the teen pregnancy rate actually dropped by 3 percent. "Particularly between 1997 and 1998, when the funding of abstinence-only education increased tenfold, there should have been some indication of an uptick," Kliff writes. "But there wasn't."
It's not yet clear whether these latest findings will change the way sex education is taught in the country's schools.
In Catholic schools at least, little will change. Joe Kohn of the Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit said the latest study simply reaffirms the abstinence-only curriculum found in Catholic schools. "One thing I can say is, when it's practiced, the policy of abstinence is effective 100 percent of the time," he said. He added that the Detroit archdiocese does teach about "various contraceptives and contraceptive methods" but "does not encourage them."
But the abstinence-only program in the study was not religious, as many similar programs are, and did not vilify condom use. James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, which promotes comprehensive sex-ed programs, said that was an important distinction that separates the program in the study from those advocated during the Bush years.
"The bottom line is, we're just coming out of a $1.5 billion investment in really, really bad abstinence-only programs," Wagoner said Tuesday in a phone interview. He said the abstinence program in the study did not include "misinformation" about sex or contraceptives, for example.
What is clear is that experts and groups that had once thought abstinence-only education to be a fool's errand are taking a second look. Abstinence-only programs may be more useful than researchers originally thought. Sarah Brown, head of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, told The Washington Post that the study was "game-changing."
Even Wagoner, who charges that studies by conservative groups like the Heritage Foundation advocating abstinence-only programs are akin to having "Santa Claus write something from the North Pole," found the federal study compelling. "This is a legitimate study from a legitimate researcher," he said. "So those of us who believe in legitimate research have to pay attention."
Wagoner still wants comprehensive sexual education in the country's schools, however. He notes that 23 percent of students in the study were already sexually active before the abstinence-only program even began. "Don't you want to make sure they have the education to protect themselves?" he asked.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 11:24 AM
another lie from what I can only guess is a professional liar. but hey since your position is "murder more children so there are fewer that need adopting" I can't expect much in the way of humanity.
What protion of that is a lie. You faquahds don't give a **** about children who are in need. You are part of that group who wants to cut social benefits, want to keep health care as is (unaffordable to many with low incomes), balk about education grants, reject low cost/ no cost health care for children......and so on and so on.
........just don't have an abortion.... and allow you to meddle in everyones' life and you'll be happy.
Go **** yourself, you religious loon.
yavoon
02-03-2010, 11:29 AM
What protion of that is a lie. You faquahds don't give a **** about children who are in need. You are part of that group who wants to cut social benefits, want to keep health care as is (unaffordable to many with low incomes), balk about education grants, reject low cost/ no cost health care for children......and so on and so on.
........just don't have an abortion.... and allow you to meddle in everyones' life and you'll be happy.
Go **** yourself, you religious loon.
I'm not religious. didn't we go over this? about how you're such an insane nutter that you are incapable of comporting your argument to the person you are arguing to? that you are so crazypants loco that everything is just one long line of uncontrollably flaming nuttery?
I believe we did. and look here you and your bottom dwelling stupidity hit again.
"murder more children so fewer need adopting"
-the left's humanitarian plan by tailgatenutter.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 11:31 AM
http://www.aolnews.com/health/article/study-teaching-abstinence-works-better-than-sex-ed/19341448
Study: Teaching Abstinence Works Better Than Sex Ed
(Feb. 2) -- What if abstinence-only programs actually work?
That's the question facing educators this week after a groundbreaking study found that students who take classes emphasizing abstinence are less likely to have sex than those who take classes teaching safe sex.
Although the effectiveness and virtues of sex-ed versus abstinence-only curricula have long been the subject of fierce debate in American schools, the federal study, published in the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine, is the first of its kind to suggest that programs encouraging students to abstain from having sex altogether are successful.
Just under half of the students in the study who received sex-education classes that included information about contraceptives went on to have sex in the next two years. But only one out of three students in the study who received abstinence-only education did.
Researchers say the long-term study, which followed 662 African-American public middle school students between 2001 and 2004, is significant. John Jemmott, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania who headed the study, told The Washington Post, "I think we've written off abstinence-only education without looking closely at the nature of the evidence. Our study shows this could be one approach that could be used."
Valerie Huber, the director of the National Abstinence Education Association, said in a phone interview Tuesday that the study should be "a policy-changing article."
Huber said she hopes President Obama and Congress will make a "course correction" on funding for abstinence-only programs. "The study shows abstinence really is much more than a 'say no' message," she said. "There needs to be a very targeted and specific abstinence approach that is funded separately from so-called comprehensive or safe sex funding."
The study, interestingly enough, comes at a time when teen pregnancy rates are up for the first time in a decade, and many liberal and abortion rights groups say the eight years of increased funding for abstinence-only programs during the Bush administration are to blame. President Barack Obama has pledged $114 million to address teen pregnancy but cut $170 million in funding for abstinence-only education last year after scores of studies showed such programs to be ineffective. Melody Barnes, the White House's domestic policy adviser, told USA Today that the decision to make the cuts simply "reflects the research."
But not everyone thinks it's fair to blame President George W. Bush and abstinence-only education for the increase in teen pregnancy. At Newsweek, Sarah Kliff points out that abstinence-only funding rose during the Clinton years as well, when the teen pregnancy rate actually dropped by 3 percent. "Particularly between 1997 and 1998, when the funding of abstinence-only education increased tenfold, there should have been some indication of an uptick," Kliff writes. "But there wasn't."
It's not yet clear whether these latest findings will change the way sex education is taught in the country's schools.
In Catholic schools at least, little will change. Joe Kohn of the Catholic Archdiocese of Detroit said the latest study simply reaffirms the abstinence-only curriculum found in Catholic schools. "One thing I can say is, when it's practiced, the policy of abstinence is effective 100 percent of the time," he said. He added that the Detroit archdiocese does teach about "various contraceptives and contraceptive methods" but "does not encourage them."
But the abstinence-only program in the study was not religious, as many similar programs are, and did not vilify condom use. James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, which promotes comprehensive sex-ed programs, said that was an important distinction that separates the program in the study from those advocated during the Bush years.
"The bottom line is, we're just coming out of a $1.5 billion investment in really, really bad abstinence-only programs," Wagoner said Tuesday in a phone interview. He said the abstinence program in the study did not include "misinformation" about sex or contraceptives, for example.
What is clear is that experts and groups that had once thought abstinence-only education to be a fool's errand are taking a second look. Abstinence-only programs may be more useful than researchers originally thought. Sarah Brown, head of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, told The Washington Post that the study was "game-changing."
Even Wagoner, who charges that studies by conservative groups like the Heritage Foundation advocating abstinence-only programs are akin to having "Santa Claus write something from the North Pole," found the federal study compelling. "This is a legitimate study from a legitimate researcher," he said. "So those of us who believe in legitimate research have to pay attention."
Wagoner still wants comprehensive sexual education in the country's schools, however. He notes that 23 percent of students in the study were already sexually active before the abstinence-only program even began. "Don't you want to make sure they have the education to protect themselves?" he asked.
Do you read what you quote?
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 11:45 AM
Ok, whatever you say. You were charged with being the "momma and daddy" of 30 children while you were a teenager. :spit:
I call your story "BULL****"!
I was an Officer charged with a platoon for 30 kids. So yes...as a matter of fact.
TailgateNut
02-03-2010, 12:01 PM
I was an Officer charged with a platoon for 30 kids. So yes...as a matter of fact.
as a teenager????
Ok.
FOS!
Br0nc0Buster
02-03-2010, 12:09 PM
I don't know about the "Relgious Right" but abstinence is the only true way to avoid what appears to be an unwanted pregnancy. See you want to have your cake and eat it to and it just doesn't work that way all the the time. Sex edcucation is fine and so is access to birth control with parental consent, but don't act like abstinence education is bad, illogical, or wrong. You can call them "old ways", but damn if they don't work.
how about if it is just ineffective?
Sarah Palins daughter can attest to that
Oh here is another little fun fact I learned
Girls that wear the "purity rings" are 6 times more likely to engage in anal and oral sex
Point being kids are gonna bang each other, teaching them condoms are bad only makes them bang without condoms
DBruleU
02-03-2010, 12:11 PM
how about if it is just ineffective?
Sarah Palins daughter can attest to that
Oh here is another little fun fact I learned
Girls that wear the "purity rings" are 6 times more likely to engage in anal and oral sex
Point being kids are gonna bang each other, teaching them condoms are bad only makes them bang without condoms
Where did you get that fun little fact?
Br0nc0Buster
02-03-2010, 01:42 PM
Where did you get that fun little fact?
I think I got it from Bill Maher's New Rules book....but I found an article that agrees with that premise
"Although teenagers who take "virginity pledges" begin engaging in vaginal intercourse later than teens who have not committed to remain abstinent until marriage, they also are more likely to engage in oral or anal sex than nonpledging virgin teens and less likely to use condoms once they become sexually active"
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/21606.php
6 was the number I heard, regardless people who think abstinence is the key still have sex, but while not wearing condoms as often
Meck77
02-03-2010, 01:52 PM
You are right nut. It's absurd for any man to control his own body.
The government should be there for us! Before we shoot a load a representative from the obama administration should be there to pull our di cks out!
I mean really. Why should we be expected to do this on our own?
Call 1-800-help for an extra hand!
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Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 02:25 PM
how about if it is just ineffective?
Sarah Palins daughter can attest to that
Oh here is another little fun fact I learned
Girls that wear the "purity rings" are 6 times more likely to engage in anal and oral sex
Point being kids are gonna bang each other, teaching them condoms are bad only makes them bang without condoms
I'd have to look at how they gathered their numbers. Regardless the best way to not have an unwanted pregnancy is to not engage in sexual reproduction. Anything else is just an excuse for not being able to control your urges. Take responsibility.
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 02:31 PM
as a teenager????
Ok.
FOS!
I am not. Either way it still doesn't change the fact that I am qualified to have views on child rearing. Especially having been a child.
It is an issue. It's an issue of people having sex and not be resposible for the consequences of their actions. This is the root cause. So you can have all the abortions you want...but you do not affect the cause.
It's why we should be teaching our kids to have more anal. No preggers that way.
Meck77
02-03-2010, 02:48 PM
It's why we should be teaching our kids to have more anal. No preggers that way.
Ha!
Anal sex ed. That could save this country trillions right there. Brilliant!
Ha!
Anal sex ed. That could save this country trillions right there. Brilliant!
Thank you, I will now run for public office.
Bronco_Beerslug
02-03-2010, 02:55 PM
...Hey, grow a pair boy. Instead of hiding your ignorant ramblings in the guise of the 'rep' button, put it out here like a "big" boy.
Garcia Bronco
02-03-2010, 02:56 PM
It's why we should be teaching our kids to have more anal. No preggers that way.
PArt of a sex education class is a section on STD's. Anal sex is the best way to spread those. At least that's what the taught in my sex ed class in 86.
Bronco_Beerslug
02-03-2010, 03:04 PM
PArt of a sex education class is a section on STD's. Anal sex is the best way to spread those. At least that's what the taught in my sex ed class in 86.
Yeah but it feels so gooooooooooooooood!! But let me make this clear for DBruleU's sake. I'm talking about the man's role in anal sex, not the woman's.
PArt of a sex education class is a section on STD's. Anal sex is the best way to spread those. At least that's what the taught in my sex ed class in 86.
Have you checked the lost and found to see if anyone returned your sense of humor? It's right by the door as you enter the thread. :~ohyah!:
Br0nc0Buster
02-03-2010, 06:57 PM
I'd have to look at how they gathered their numbers. Regardless the best way to not have an unwanted pregnancy is to not engage in sexual reproduction. Anything else is just an excuse for not being able to control your urges. Take responsibility.
your method is outdated and impractical
kids are going to have sex. period
we are talking about young adults, highschoolers, and even middleschoolers, they are not in the habit of making rational and intelligent decisions all the time
The US has one of the if not the highest teen pregnancy rates in the modernized world
Those numbers wouldnt add up if abstinence actually worked considering how many people preach it here compared to other countries
Spider
02-03-2010, 07:04 PM
**** happens? That is your description of life?
There are many types of birth control.
Again it's a matter of personal responsibility. It is very easy to not get a woman pregnant.
Do you really want ot go there ?
Spider
02-03-2010, 07:06 PM
He also revealed something pretty dark about himself there. He refers to the birth of his triplets as "**** happens".
Not cool.
LOL what in the **** do you know about me ?
Seriously , what kind of sacrifices I made to get those triplets born ?
you inbred .........
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-03-2010, 07:07 PM
Yeah but it feels so gooooooooooooooood!! But let me make this clear for DBruleU's sake. I'm talking about the man's role in anal sex, not the woman's.
Ha! ^5
Meck77
02-03-2010, 07:08 PM
Spider this thread is about unwanted kids. There is no doubt in my mind you are a great father.
My point is people use abortion or adoption instead of covering their **** up or a woman using birth control. It's not that complicated really. I do not agree that "**** just happens" though. There are choices made or not made that leads to any **** happening.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-03-2010, 07:09 PM
Hey, grow a pair boy. Instead of hiding your ignorant ramblings in the guise of the 'rep' button, put it out here like a "big" boy.
Why do the rightards always hide behind neg rep comments, anyway?
Oh well - at least they've stopped crying to the mods and lobbying TJ to have people who question King George's edicts banned. Ha!
DBruleU
02-03-2010, 07:59 PM
Why do the rightards always hide behind neg rep comments, anyway?
Oh well - at least they've stopped crying to the mods and lobbying TJ to have people who question King George's edicts banned. Ha!
I could fill this forum with neg rep from you...don't act as if you're above that.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-04-2010, 05:07 AM
I could fill this forum with neg rep from you...
That's because every time you neg rep me I respond in kind.
Maybe you were expecting one of those "turn the other cheek" liberals?
http://www.bartcop.com/corp-speech.jpg
broncofan7
02-04-2010, 05:47 AM
That's because every time you neg rep me I respond in kind.
Maybe you were expecting one of those "turn the other cheek" liberals?
http://www.bartcop.com/corp-speech.jpg
I hear that you turn your cheeks alright...you
PHAG. Hilarious! go hang out with sircheyennewhatthehell at your favorite truck stop....
I am pro choice by the way--we have enough 'undesirables' procreating in this country as it is--hell I would fund clinics outright throughout this country to help raise the IQ of this once great nation .......the same low end cultures that loathe education and parenthood loves PH-UCKING....
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-04-2010, 06:04 AM
I hear that you turn your cheeks alright...you
PHAG. Hilarious! go hang out with sircheyennewhatthehell at your favorite truck stop....
RaceBaiter7 is living proof of the old adage "scratch the surface of a homophobe, and you usually find a homo."
broncofan7
02-04-2010, 06:09 AM
RaceBaiter7 is living proof of the old adage "scratch the surface of a homophobe, and you usually find a homo."
Gay jokes does not make one a homophobe...you anal assassin! :welcome:
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-04-2010, 06:28 AM
Gay jokes does not make one a homophobe...you anal assassin! :welcome:
Perhaps not, but your use of slurs does, you disingenuous douche bag! :mullet1:
broncofan7
02-04-2010, 06:50 AM
Perhaps not, but your use of slurs does, you disingenuous douche bag! :mullet1:
whatever you say, butt bandit. :thanku:
ant1999e
02-04-2010, 06:53 AM
**** happens , look at my triplets ......... they wasnt planed , in fact meds lead to that , so now what ? Rubbers break ......... then what ?
Come on spider. We all know you aint breaking any rubbers.LOL
TailgateNut
02-04-2010, 06:55 AM
I am not. Either way it still doesn't change the fact that I am qualified to have views on child rearing. Especially having been a child.
Yes you are FOS. #1, Babysitting isn't a qualifier. #2. It would be against the law to have a TEENAGER supervise 30 teenagers/children (please cite the position you held while a teenager). #3. Having been a child Hilarious! isn't a qualification to supervise anyone aside from being a neighborhood babysitter.
Are you also qualified to be an Astronaut because you watched the Apollo movie?
Garcia Bronco
02-04-2010, 07:09 AM
Yes you are FOS. #1, Babysitting isn't a qualifier. #2. It would be against the law to have a TEENAGER supervise 30 teenagers/children (please cite the position you held while a teenager). #3. Having been a child Hilarious! isn't a qualification to supervise anyone aside from being a neighborhood babysitter.
Are you also qualified to be an Astronaut because you watched the Apollo movie?
1: It just isn't "babysitting" as a point. Pay attention. I am also degreed
2: You'd be wrong about that. Apparently. And I have already stated the position
3: Having been a child means that ones has experiences as a child and using said experiences one can calculate good parenting decisions.
4: Even using your response....how do they train Astronauts today? That's right...simulation.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
02-04-2010, 08:03 AM
whatever you say, butt bandit. :thanku:
I think we're witnessing RaceBaiter7's "coming out" party - pretty soon he'll be dispensing with the code-speak and just start dropping N-bombs at will!
Ha!
broncofan7
02-04-2010, 11:17 AM
I think we're witnessing RaceBaiter7's "coming out" party - pretty soon he'll be dispensing with the code-speak and just start dropping N-bombs at will!
Ha!
At least someone finds you funny......
Spider
02-04-2010, 11:59 PM
Spider this thread is about unwanted kids. There is no doubt in my mind you are a great father.
My point is people use abortion or adoption instead of covering their **** up or a woman using birth control. It's not that complicated really. I do not agree that "**** just happens" though. There are choices made or not made that leads to any **** happening.
:D thanks ,I disagree about abortion bein just a quick fix to lot of people though ,meet someone that has had an abortion ,,,,,,,,,,listen to the regret they have