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Taco John
02-02-2010, 09:47 AM
4 for Bryant
2 for Price

Need more input.

TheDave
02-02-2010, 09:48 AM
The only 1st round WR in Parcell's long history.

Didn't he also draft Keyshon?

Taco John
02-02-2010, 09:48 AM
Of course, they won't need Price is they end up with Dumervil.

I keed, I keed...

*knocking on hella wood*

Taco John
02-02-2010, 09:49 AM
Didn't he also draft Keyshon?

No. He inherited Key.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 09:57 AM
I've got to run into a meeting. When there are about 5 picks made for a player (and at least 3 more than the next running candidate), someone go ahead and call it.

gunns
02-02-2010, 10:01 AM
Jared Odrick NT Penn State. Would never take a Penn St player but it's for Miami.

gunns
02-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Parcells picking a WR in round one?

Yeah, he does not take WR in the first round, I'd even say Spiller over Bryant. But my take is a NT.

Arkie
02-02-2010, 10:20 AM
Dez Bryant

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 10:51 AM
I've got to run into a meeting. When there are about 5 picks made for a player (and at least 3 more than the next running candidate), someone go ahead and call it.

5 Bryant
2 Price
1 Odrick

I guess that makes it Bryant

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 10:53 AM
5 Bryant
2 Price
1 Odrick

I guess that makes it Bryant

Seconded. Move along?

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 10:53 AM
San Francisco is on the clock.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 10:54 AM
12. Miami Dolphins - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State

Next up, Niners. I go with Earl Thomas, S/CB.

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 10:57 AM
*edit* I forgot how bad the Niners O line is. Change my pick to Bulaga, Iowa.

jebures
02-02-2010, 10:59 AM
Trent Williams T Oklahoma

Bronco Boy
02-02-2010, 10:59 AM
Second for Thomas

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 11:05 AM
Earl Thomas

gunns
02-02-2010, 11:07 AM
Trent Williams OT

Carmelo15
02-02-2010, 11:16 AM
Trent Williams OT

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 11:23 AM
3 Williams
3 Thomas
1 Bulaga

Cool Breeze
02-02-2010, 11:27 AM
Earl Thomas

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 11:32 AM
The Niners have Staley at LT who is under contract until 2017. What they really need is a RT. But their secondary sucks.

cousinal11
02-02-2010, 11:37 AM
Earl Thomas.

SouthStndJunkie
02-02-2010, 11:51 AM
49ers: Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 11:52 AM
That's six and half votes for Thomas. Is that the pick?

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 11:53 AM
That's six and half votes for Thomas. Is that the pick?

I count:

5 Thomas
4 Williams
1 Bulaga

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 11:54 AM
I count:

5 Thomas
4 Williams
1 Bulaga

You're right. So do we go with Thomas?

Taco John
02-02-2010, 11:55 AM
My vote is also for Thomas.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 11:56 AM
13. San Francisco 49ers - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas

Taco John
02-02-2010, 11:56 AM
Seattle is on the clock.

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 11:56 AM
Never mind

Taco John
02-02-2010, 11:57 AM
Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa


If that isn't a last name for an offensive lineman, I don't know what is...

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 11:57 AM
Mays could be a possibility, since Carroll is the HC.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 11:59 AM
Here's the current board:

Round 1
St. Louis (1-15) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Detroit (2-14) - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Tampa Bay (3-13) - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Washington (4-12) - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
Kansas City (4-12) - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
Seattle (5-11) - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Cleveland (5-11) - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
Oakland (5-11) - Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
Buffalo (6-10) - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Jacksonville^ (7-9) - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
Denver - from Chicago^ (7-9) - Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
Miami (7-9) - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
San Francisco (8-8) - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 12:00 PM
I don't think Trent Williams will drop this far, but he sure as hell wouldn't get past the Hawks. Walter Jones is old. This would be a gift. I go with Trent.

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 12:01 PM
Sea took Bradford and is in desperate of OL protection.

Bryan Bulaga, OL, Iowa is my vote.

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 12:02 PM
Who is better, Bulaga or Williams?

SoDak Bronco
02-02-2010, 12:04 PM
Carlos Dunlap- DE Fla

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 12:05 PM
Who is better, Bulaga or Williams?

Probably personal preference. Bulaga had a poor start this past year due to injury. I'm personally not as high on Williams - but some experts (and I'm not!) have Williams ranked higher.

Got a coin to flip?! ;)

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 12:06 PM
Who is better, Bulaga or Williams?

I think Bulaga might be the better all round lineman, but Williams is the best left tackle.

My vote is for Williams.

cousinal11
02-02-2010, 12:06 PM
Spiller?

jebures
02-02-2010, 12:09 PM
trent williams T oklahoma to seattle

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 12:11 PM
Who is better, Bulaga or Williams?

Williams, at least most of the boards think so. Most scouts consider him more polished.

Bronco Boy
02-02-2010, 12:11 PM
Williams

gunns
02-02-2010, 12:11 PM
The Niners have Staley at LT who is under contract until 2017. What they really need is a RT. But their secondary sucks.

Williams played RT earlier and actually was better at RT.

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 12:12 PM
Bulaga to SEA

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 12:13 PM
It's amazing to see how rich this draft is. By this time last year, people were saying - better to trade down, nobody is worth the money. Not this year.

Cool Breeze
02-02-2010, 12:13 PM
Bulaga

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 12:15 PM
Trent Williams

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 12:16 PM
Williams played RT earlier and actually was better at RT.

Ahh. I just think the Niners worst hurt is in their secondary.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 12:18 PM
14. Seattle Seahawks - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Taco John
02-02-2010, 12:18 PM
NY Giants are on the Clock

SoDak Bronco
02-02-2010, 12:20 PM
What kind of run scheme will Pete Carrol look to install. Bulaga is more of a quick feet, Zone Blocker, Thomas is more of a Power Tackle that will be able to blow you off the ball, and Run block better, Bulaga will be more skilled in the pass pro.

SoDak Bronco
02-02-2010, 12:21 PM
CJ Spiller is going to be very tempting here.

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 12:22 PM
Hmmm...I dunno about this one, I want to say a DB, there aren't any first round worthy ones left, are there?

Maybe Carlos Dunlap? Osi is starting to look old out there.

jebures
02-02-2010, 12:24 PM
C.J. Spiller RB Clemson to Giants

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 12:26 PM
Carlos Dunlap, DE

Taco John
02-02-2010, 12:26 PM
Jared Odrick

Cool Breeze
02-02-2010, 12:26 PM
Brian Price - DT UCLA

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 12:28 PM
I think it's a tossup between Taylor Mays and Bulaga. Maybe even Spikes? I guess I'll go with Mays. I'm not that high on Mays but his measurables are going to blow people away.

jebures
02-02-2010, 12:32 PM
I think it's a tossup between Taylor Mays and Bulaga. Maybe even Spikes? I guess I'll go with Mays. I'm not that high on Mays but his measurables are going to blow people away.

Josh Barrett had amazing measurables but lasted till the 7th

Bronco Boy
02-02-2010, 12:33 PM
Brian Price

meangene
02-02-2010, 12:41 PM
Dunlap from Florida is their kind of DL. Big DE who can shift inside in passing situations. Umenyura had all kinds of problems last year and could well be moving on. They need to get back to having a dominant DL which is what defined their team.

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 12:51 PM
Carlos Dunlap or Taylor Mays. I vote for Mays here.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 12:53 PM
Josh Barrett had amazing measurables but lasted till the 7th

I don't think that will happen to Mays. He's good, but maybe not top ten good. Maybe not even top twenty good. I just think the Giants biggest hurt is at Safety, so if Mays was on the board he'd be hard to pass up.

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 01:02 PM
Dunlap from Florida is their kind of DL. Big DE who can shift inside in passing situations. Umenyura had all kinds of problems last year and could well be moving on. They need to get back to having a dominant DL which is what defined their team.

(Listen to this smart man!) :wave:

SouthStndJunkie
02-02-2010, 01:02 PM
I think this is too high for Taylor Mays.

SouthStndJunkie
02-02-2010, 01:05 PM
Giants: Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida

Taco John
02-02-2010, 01:23 PM
Changing my vote from Odrick to Dunlap.

15. New York Giants - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida

Taco John
02-02-2010, 01:24 PM
The Tennessee Titans are on the clock.

gunns
02-02-2010, 01:34 PM
Pierre-Paul DE

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 01:34 PM
Titans: Jason Pierre-Paul

Pick Six
02-02-2010, 01:38 PM
The Titans have a need at DE. I agree with the Paul pick...

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 01:39 PM
I'm in agreement with JPP.

SouthStndJunkie
02-02-2010, 01:41 PM
Titans: Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 01:43 PM
Yikes, it looks like I missed the first round party! Oh well, some real interesting selections to this point. I can not believe Williams went that high at this point in the process, but hey he is stud DT that DEN Really needs so I will not cry at the value.

Titans are on the clock. Interesting, I think they have to pick Odrick at this point. BPA and they need to replace Haynesworth much more than they thought they did.

Pierre-Paul needs all kinds of time to develop and TEN is not going to get much out of him right away. He is extremely unpolished, but has huge upside. Not a pick I see TEN doing...

jebures
02-02-2010, 01:45 PM
JPP South Florida DE to titans

gunns
02-02-2010, 01:45 PM
Yikes, it looks like I missed the first round party! Oh well, some real interesting selections to this point. I can not believe Williams went that high at this point in the process, but hey he is stud DT that DEN Really needs so I will not cry at the value.

Titans are on the clock. Interesting, I think they have to pick Odrick at this point. BPA and they need to replace Haynesworth much more than they thought they did.

Pierre-Paul needs all kinds of time to develop and TEN is not going to get much out of him right away. He is extremely unpolished, but has huge upside. Not a pick I see TEN doing...

I do think DE is their #1 priority though. And as far as Williams, it's a draft rich with DT but not NT. Of course who knows what we might do in FA.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 01:47 PM
16. Tennessee Titans: Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

Taco John
02-02-2010, 01:47 PM
San Francisco is on the clock.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 01:47 PM
By the way Med, I agree with you on Odrick.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 01:48 PM
Cj Spiller for SF

Taco John
02-02-2010, 01:51 PM
Here's the board so far:

Round 1
St. Louis (1-15) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Detroit (2-14) - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Tampa Bay (3-13) - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Washington (4-12) - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
Kansas City (4-12) - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
Seattle (5-11) - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Cleveland (5-11) - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
Oakland (5-11) - Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
Buffalo (6-10) - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Jacksonville^ (7-9) - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
Denver - from Chicago^ (7-9) - Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
Miami (7-9) - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
San Francisco (8-8) - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
Seattle - from Denver (8-8) - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
New York Giants (8-8) - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
Tennessee^ (8-8) - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 01:51 PM
I do think DE is their #1 priority though. And as far as Williams, it's a draft rich with DT but not NT. Of course who knows what we might do in FA.

I saw every game the Titans played this year and they have much more at DE than they do at DT. Plus, that kid has about as much as a shot of impacting in the AFCS as Harvey did For JAX. JPP is a freak, but he is not he second coming of "theFreak" to TEN. He is nowhere near as polished as Kearse was coming out of FL. Pierre Paul had a ton of success early last year as teams concentrated on George Selvie, then he was real average to end the year. The kid is all upside, but nowhere near the impact player Odrick would be for TEN right away.

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 01:51 PM
Bulaga? Iupati?

jebures
02-02-2010, 01:51 PM
Mike Iupati G Idaho to SF

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 01:52 PM
SF has to draft Iupati for that OL. Plus, Singletary loves to play power football and this kid is the best inside power player in the draft. This is a perfect fit.

iDENVER
02-02-2010, 01:53 PM
Mike Iupati for SF

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 01:55 PM
SF has to draft Iupati for that OL. Plus, Singletary loves to play power football and this kid is the best inside power player in the draft. This is a perfect fit.

This

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 01:55 PM
Iupati

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 01:55 PM
Quick work, Iupati. (Steelers will be disappointed)

Pick Six
02-02-2010, 02:07 PM
Iupati. Lock it up...

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 02:09 PM
I cast my vote for Bulaga to SF, although it looks like a runaway for Iupati.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:11 PM
17. San Francisco 49ers: Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:12 PM
Pitt is on the Clock.....

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:16 PM
BPA is Bulaga by far at any of their needs. I vote Bulaga to Pitt.

Pick Six
02-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Pittsburgh loves to run the ball. I think this is where C.J. Spiller goes...

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 02:16 PM
I say Price to Pittsburgh. He's their kind of guy.

That depends on Hampton. Bulaga is choice #2

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Ok this is like the 5th time I've picked him...here goes:

Bulaga to the Steelers.

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 02:17 PM
I say Price to Pittsburgh. He's their kind of guy.

Refresh my memory on who Price is? I'm still not deep enough into my draft knowledge to know guys just by last name yet :-/

The UCLA DT! I remembered!

jebures
02-02-2010, 02:17 PM
Bruce Campbell from the EVIL DEAD series j/k T Maryland to Steelers

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:18 PM
Ok this is like the 5th time I've picked him...here goes:

Bulaga to the Steelers.

If I had been voting earlier I think Bulaga would have gone before some of these other players. I think he is close to a top 10 pick. Iowa has some real solid players coming out in this draft and he is the headliner.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 02:19 PM
Refresh my memory on who Price is? I'm still not deep enough into my draft knowledge to know guys just by last name yet :-/

UCLA DT. I'm switching my vote to Bulaga. I don't think Hampton is going anywhere. Bulaga won't even have to change colors. ;D

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:20 PM
Refresh my memory on who Price is? I'm still not deep enough into my draft knowledge to know guys just by last name yet :-/

Price is the DE/DT out of UCLA. He is either the 3rd or 4th DT/3-4 DE on most people's boards. I think he or Odrick would be great here, but Bulaga is a bigger need with them drafting Ziggy hood last year in the first.....

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 02:20 PM
If I had been voting earlier I think Bulaga would have gone before some of these other players. I think he is close to a top 10 pick. Iowa has some real solid players coming out in this draft and he is the headliner.

Agree - I've voted for him 2 other times. :)

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 02:22 PM
Bulaga seems like the kind of OL that fits the Steelers.

Bulaga

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 02:22 PM
Bulaga

BTW, so far our 1st round is more than 60% linemen. Is there any chance this actually happens?

anton
02-02-2010, 02:22 PM
I like OT Bruce Campbell more than Bulaga, I think Campbell is much more of a LT, while Bulaga is more of a RT. I also think that Campbell will go before Bulaga and Trent Williams (who struggled at LT this year). I do not see why you would take a RT in the 1st round.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 02:22 PM
I'll be interested to see who wins the coin toss between the Falcons and the Texans. ;D

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:22 PM
Agree - I've voted for him 2 other times. :)

Well, get on the bandwagon again and lets get to the next pick!

Taco John
02-02-2010, 02:26 PM
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 02:26 PM
Bulaga

BTW, so far our 1st round is more than 60% linemen. Is there any chance this actually happens?

Just look at the 08 draft! Tons of O linemen that year IIRC.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 02:26 PM
Atlanta wins the toss.

The Atlanta Falcons are on the clock.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:27 PM
I like OT Bruce Campbell more than Bulaga, I think Campbell is much more of a LT, while Bulaga is more of a RT. I also think that Campbell will go before Bulaga and Trent Williams (who struggled at LT this year). I do not see why you would take a RT in the 1st round.

That's interesting. I think Bulaga could very well end up in the Joe Thomas and Jake Long Mold when the evals are over. Iowa's other Tackle Kyle Calloway is a stud RT too. Have not seen enough of Campbell yet to have an idea, but I have graded Iowa out already and that team has a dirtload of good players coming out.

elsid13
02-02-2010, 02:29 PM
For ATL, I'm going Price as UT from them. Smith gets a big body that can penetrate and get to the passer

jebures
02-02-2010, 02:30 PM
novorro bowman OLB penn st to atlanta

meangene
02-02-2010, 02:31 PM
Everson Griffen, DE, USC to the Falcons.

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 02:32 PM
Forgot about Peria Jerry.

Falcons take...Sergio Kindle. If we're ready to write off Jarvis Moss here, they must be about ready to tar and feather Jamaal Anderson. They need a new DE.

Pick Six
02-02-2010, 02:32 PM
Sergio Kindle, OLB Texas

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:32 PM
Falcons need Defensive help and OT. Hmmm. Not good value where they need it with what is left here. Let's see what people are thinking.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 02:34 PM
I'll go with Patrick Robinson for the Dirty Birds.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:34 PM
For ATL, I'm going Price as UT from them. Smith gets a big body that can penetrate and get to the passer

They just drafted Peria Jerry to do that in last years first though. I thought DT too since He struggled this year, but I think this is where Sergio Kindle will go off the board. I hate Texas Freakish players, because they take so long to develop at the next level. However, this would be right about where you take a shot with this kid.

Bronco Boy
02-02-2010, 02:36 PM
Kindle

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 02:36 PM
They just drafted Peria Jerry to do that in last years first though. I thought DT too since He struggled this year, but I think this is where Sergio Kindle will go off the board. I hate Texas Freakish players, because they take so long to develop at the next level. However, this would be right about where you take a shot with this kid.

Ahhh I forgot about him, gotta change my pick.

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 02:37 PM
http://www.mclibrary.duke.edu/training/mobiledevices/kindle/kindle.jpg

elsid13
02-02-2010, 02:38 PM
They just drafted Peria Jerry to do that in last years first though. I thought DT too since He struggled this year, but I think this is where Sergio Kindle will go off the board. I hate Texas Freakish players, because they take so long to develop at the next level. However, this would be right about where you take a shot with this kid.

They already have Sidbury (Richmond) does the same things as Kindle. I went with Price because I think he more upside and Smith likes DTs

anton
02-02-2010, 02:38 PM
Atlanta - DE Brandon Graham

anton
02-02-2010, 02:41 PM
That's interesting. I think Bulaga could very well end up in the Joe Thomas and Jake Long Mold when the evals are over. Iowa's other Tackle Kyle Calloway is a stud RT too. Have not seen enough of Campbell yet to have an idea, but I have graded Iowa out already and that team has a dirtload of good players coming out.

Bulaga should have stayed for his senior year. He came back from injury midway through the season and got absolutely destroyed by DE Brandon Graham. He got better after that game but there are still concerns over short arms and elite athleticism. DE Derrick Morgan got around him a few times in the bowl game. I think he would really struggle against elite DEs at LT in the NFL.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 02:44 PM
They already have Sidbury (Richmond) does the same things as Kindle. I went with Price because I think he more upside and Smith likes DTs

I disagree. Kindle can play a lot of different ways and they still have Jonathan Babineaux to pair with Jerry. Sidbury played a lot of DE rather than LB and Stephen Nicolas left a lot to be desired last year and they have zero depth behind them.

elsid13
02-02-2010, 02:54 PM
I disagree. Kindle can play a lot of different ways and they still have Jonathan Babineaux to pair with Jerry. Sidbury played a lot of DE rather than LB and Stephen Nicolas left a lot to be desired last year and they have zero depth behind them.

I understand your points, but I have strange feeling this one of those picks that could be wild card.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 03:02 PM
I understand your points, but I have strange feeling this one of those picks that could be wild card.

Yeah, Seriously. I think this could be an off the reservation pick personally. Their biggest need by far is CB and DE. I think Brandon Graham would work here, Patrick Robinson or Kyle Wilson. I think it comes down to BPA at this point and I hope Dimitroff does not like Kindle's huge upside more than a sure better player, but hey its a concensus mock so I say Kindle since he will not be on my team ;D

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 03:04 PM
Another wild card would be Spiller. Nice backfield tandem, Turner and Spiller.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 03:04 PM
I tallied them up.

19. Atlanta Falcons - Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas

elsid13
02-02-2010, 03:04 PM
Yeah, Seriously. I think this could be an off the reservation pick personally. Their biggest need by far is CB and DE. I think Brandon Graham would work here, Patrick Robinson or Kyle Wilson. I think it comes down to BPA at this point and I hope Dimitroff does not like Kindle's huge upside more than a sure better player, but hey its a concensus mock so I say Kindle since he will not be on my team ;D

With this post you do realize that Denver will either draft Kindle at 11 or give up a lot to move up and get him now. ;D

Taco John
02-02-2010, 03:05 PM
The Houston Texans are on the clock.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 03:05 PM
Bulaga should have stayed for his senior year. He came back from injury midway through the season and got absolutely destroyed by DE Brandon Graham. He got better after that game but there are still concerns over short arms and elite athleticism. DE Derrick Morgan got around him a few times in the bowl game. I think he would really struggle against elite DEs at LT in the NFL.

I think Bulaga is NFL ready to play RT right now and LT down the road with some technique and slide work. I had not heard the Arm length argument, but his athleticism is not a question to me. Kid can run block and if he gets the need to get stronger and learns proper slides then he could be a starting LT to me for a Long time.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 03:06 PM
With this post you do realize that Denver will either draft Kindle at 11 or give up a lot to move up and get him now. ;D

No. Stop it! Do not even go there!

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 03:06 PM
I say Spiller drops no more. Texans take CJ.

elsid13
02-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Mays for the secondary. Need an enforcer back there.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Spiller to the Texans and they can put to bed all the Reggie Bush or Mario Williams comparisons. He would kill in that offense with those vertical threats.

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 03:08 PM
Dammit this thing moves fast!

Texans - CJ Spiller

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 03:09 PM
I'm scared to death of Taylor Mays (high bust potential) but looking at Texans need inn the secondary, I could see them risking a boom/bust selection.

Mays

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 03:09 PM
Mays for the secondary. Need an enforcer back there.

I could see that too. They do need some work on the back end, but I would be scared to death to trust Mays to be that guy. Better to address that in the next few rounds where there is solid Safety depth and some legit CB's to pair with Robinson IMHO.

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 03:10 PM
I say Spiller drops no more. Texans take CJ.

I quoted this because I fully intended to vote spiller too, but I think they need a DT more, and there's still good DT value here. Odrick is the pick.

SouthStndJunkie
02-02-2010, 03:10 PM
Houston: C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

Taco John
02-02-2010, 03:13 PM
Agree with Spiller. Too much uncertainty with their running squad. How could Kubes resist?

Pick Six
02-02-2010, 03:14 PM
Spiller

elsid13
02-02-2010, 03:15 PM
I could see that too. They do need some work on the back end, but I would be scared to death to trust Mays to be that guy. Better to address that in the next few rounds where there is solid Safety depth and some legit CB's to pair with Robinson IMHO.

With Houston playing in that Division, they need someone that can walk up and play in the box against Tenn and Jax but then play deep against Indy. Mays has that ability, and I think that he getting beaten down to much in this draft process. When comes to running back, I can see Kubes going after someone like Dixon (Miss State) or Tate (Auburn). Both are one cut and go guys.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 03:34 PM
I quoted this because I fully intended to vote spiller too, but I think they need a DT more, and there's still good DT value here. Odrick is the pick.

Have faith. Okoye will wake up. ;D

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 03:35 PM
Looks like Spiller to the Kubes. I gotta go. I say the Bengals take Iaputi. They love those Samoans up there. ;D

Bronco Boy
02-02-2010, 03:38 PM
Mays

iDENVER
02-02-2010, 03:39 PM
CJ spiller, Clemson to HOU

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 03:42 PM
Spiller

meangene
02-02-2010, 03:52 PM
Spiller is a great value for Houston at this pick!

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 04:03 PM
20. Houston Texans: CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 04:04 PM
The CIN Bengals are on the clock...

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 04:06 PM
Bungles on the clock!

**** I don't know anything about the Bengals. Anyone know their needs?

meangene
02-02-2010, 04:07 PM
Golden Tate WR, Notre Dame - one of my favorite players in this draft. The Bengals desperately need help at WR.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 04:10 PM
This a great idea Taco. I can not believe how fast and intelligent this discussion has been. Really happy to see guys like Anton, meangene, prbronco nad others get involved in the draft discussion.

This has been very fun. Doubt it will be as accurate as our last one, but it sure gets the conversation going during the utter redundancy of the superbowl media week.

Bronco Boy
02-02-2010, 04:15 PM
They need a TE, seems like they always have. Could be Hernandez or Gresham depending on the combine, but I'd say Hernandez since Gresham was injured most of the year.

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 04:15 PM
This a great idea Taco. I can not believe how fast and intelligent this discussion has been. Really happy to see guys like Anton, meangene, prbronco nad others get involved in the draft discussion.

This has been very fun. Doubt it will be as accurate as our last one, but it sure gets the conversation going during the utter redundancy of the superbowl media week.

It's made my work day much more interesting :)

Taco John
02-02-2010, 04:18 PM
This a great idea Taco. I can not believe how fast and intelligent this discussion has been. Really happy to see guys like Anton, meangene, prbronco nad others get involved in the draft discussion.

This has been very fun. Doubt it will be as accurate as our last one, but it sure gets the conversation going during the utter redundancy of the superbowl media week.



Thanks. It's just a warm up really. Gives us the ability to see how our own opinions change over the course of the next couple of months. The next one is going to be March 1!

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 04:19 PM
This a great idea Taco. I can not believe how fast and intelligent this discussion has been. Really happy to see guys like Anton, meangene, prbronco nad others get involved in the draft discussion.

This has been very fun. Doubt it will be as accurate as our last one, but it sure gets the conversation going during the utter redundancy of the superbowl media week.

I agree... great thread idea!

elsid13
02-02-2010, 04:19 PM
They need a TE, seems like they always have. Could be Hernandez or Gresham depending on the combine, but I'd say Hernandez since Gresham was injured most of the year.

No way Hernandez goes before Gresham or Rob Gronkowski

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 04:19 PM
Bungles: Taylor Mays

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 04:19 PM
Oh yeah they need receivers. I'll say Golden Tate too, they took that TE from Missouri last year, so TE's not as big of a hole as I initially thought.

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 04:24 PM
Let's see....who has the longest rap sheet? ;)

They've needed a solid safety for almost as long as the Broncos did before last year, so I'm being redundant and going...

Taylor Mays

meangene
02-02-2010, 04:25 PM
Thanks. It's just a warm up really. Gives us the ability to see how our own opinions change over the course of the next couple of months. The next one is going to be March 1!

I think there will be quite a few changes post-combine. This has been a fun thread and I look forward to OM Consensus Draft II!

anton
02-02-2010, 04:31 PM
WR/TE could be the pick but I think they also want a DT and S. Taylor Mays, Chad Jones, and Brian Price could be the pick.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 04:32 PM
This is really interesting at this point. Taylor Mays, Golden Tate, Maybe Spikes, heck Even Graham would fit. The real question is who is the highest rated player left.

I guess Taylor Mays.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 04:35 PM
WR/TE could be the pick but I think they also want a DT and S. Taylor Mays, Chad Jones, and Brian Price could be the pick.

You think they need DT with Tank Johnson, Domata Peko, and Pat Sims? I think they are actually pretty deep there. I also think they could take another LB or S. The problem here is value. I think unless they are sold on Mays, if he really drops here and I am not sure he will (but he should), this could be a logical trade spot.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 04:37 PM
Two for Tate. Three for Mays at this point.

Add my vote for Mays.

We need more input.

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 04:44 PM
Mays

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 04:47 PM
Anton Who is your vote? You left yours open ended. Thanks.

BTW, Very happy to have you here discussing the draft. We have a good amount of draftniks around here, but you really seem to know your stuff. The better the amount of solid opinion, the better the discussions.

Cool Breeze
02-02-2010, 04:55 PM
Mays

iDENVER
02-02-2010, 04:58 PM
Taylor Mays-Cinn

Paladin
02-02-2010, 05:01 PM
Frankly, those of us who do not follow the college ranks learn names and get some info so that the combine has a little more meaning for us. I am glad we all have the opportunity to rectify our errors on March 1!!! I think we will second guess the assigned Bronc's pick. Watching the rest of the picks to this point solidifies my hope that the Broncos will trade dpwn in the First......

elsid13
02-02-2010, 05:02 PM
Mays. Close it and move on.

anton
02-02-2010, 05:17 PM
It looks like the winner is Mays but I would vote for Brian Price. I have snooped around the Bengals board and there seems to be a lot of support for Price. Tank is getting older, and getting a young, pass rushing DT (at great value) would be a lot to pass up.

anton
02-02-2010, 05:19 PM
BTW, Very happy to have you here discussing the draft. We have a good amount of draftniks around here, but you really seem to know your stuff. The better the amount of solid opinion, the better the discussions.

thanks, happy to be here. If you didnt know, I have a draft-related youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/prodraftparty with over 80 prospect highlights

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 05:21 PM
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Taylor Mays, S, USC

MagicHef
02-02-2010, 05:22 PM
New England is up.

elsid13
02-02-2010, 05:24 PM
Graham out of Michigan. Need to get some talent in the OLB slot.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 05:24 PM
thanks, happy to be here. If you didnt know, I have a draft-related youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/prodraftparty with over 80 prospect highlights

Yeah, I like it after I had done my film work on prospects. Its one of the best at showing more than just highlights out there. Great to have you here.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 05:26 PM
Graham out of Michigan. Need to get some talent in the OLB slot.

F them. They do not Get Graham ;D He would be ridiculous in their system though as they get younger. Pick someone else :thumbsup:

meangene
02-02-2010, 05:29 PM
Jared Odrick DL - Penn State. Seymour's replacement. Has the versatility the Pats covet as well.

elsid13
02-02-2010, 05:31 PM
F them. They do not Get Graham ;D He would be ridiculous in their system though as they get younger. Pick someone else :thumbsup:

I figure with Adalius Thomas potentially on his way out, Graham just fits the need within the front 7. I really like Graham ability to hold the point of attack when comes to defending the running game. My dark horse is Benn.

elsid13
02-02-2010, 05:38 PM
I just realized that Ricky Sapp would also make a good choice for the Pats. The Pats could have a killer LB corp if there were able to pick up two of three between Graham, Sapp and/or Hughs. Paired with Mayo and Guyton - bad ass

SoDak Bronco
02-02-2010, 05:44 PM
Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida --Haven't had a threat at TE for a while, this is a great spot to take the best offensive TE in the draft.

anton
02-02-2010, 05:46 PM
Patriots - OLB Everson Griffen

Graham could go here too but I think Griffen will test off the charts.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 05:50 PM
What is everybody's take on Ricky Sapp? I got some connections there, but he is a really highly rated player that NO ONE is talking about right now. He is the Number one OLB on some boards I respect, but PFW and Mayock do not have him in the top 5.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 05:51 PM
Patriots - OLB Everson Griffen

Graham could go here too but I think Griffen will test off the charts.

Griffen as an OLB in NE. Sounds good and he will test off the charts. Too bad we did not get to see him in Mobile with that excellent group of DL to compare him against.

elsid13
02-02-2010, 05:54 PM
What is everybody's take on Ricky Sapp? I got some connections there, but he is a really highly rated player that NO ONE is talking about right now. He is the Number one OLB on some boards I respect, but PFW and Mayock do not have him in the top 5.

He very underrated. I think he project better then Kindle or Graham as OLB that can attack the passer and drop into coverage. I think he needs to do a better job against the run and add some strength, but he going to be a steal in the second or third.

anton
02-02-2010, 05:56 PM
Griffen was a junior so thats why he wasnt in mobile.

On Sapp: I think he is a solid 2nd rd 34 OLB prospect but he is not as good as Griffen, Graham, JPP, Hughes, Norwood, Kindle. When you add in mid round 34 OLBs like Selvie, Worilds, Thaddeus Gibson, Jermaine Cunningham, etc... this could be the 34 OLB class of the century.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 05:57 PM
What is everybody's take on Ricky Sapp? I got some connections there, but he is a really highly rated player that NO ONE is talking about right now. He is the Number one OLB on some boards I respect, but PFW and Mayock do not have him in the top 5.

It's situations like this that get me excited about the combine. That event shakes things up as guys open eyes, and some falter. It shouldn't be as big a deal as it is, but it sure makes for great hype generation.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 06:02 PM
I'm going with Griffen as well.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 06:02 PM
Griffen was a junior so thats why he wasnt in mobile.

On Sapp: I think he is a solid 2nd rd 34 OLB prospect but he is not as good as Griffen, Graham, JPP, Hughes, Norwood, Kindle. When you add in mid round 34 OLBs like Selvie, Worilds, Thaddeus Gibson, Jermaine Cunningham, etc... this could be the 34 OLB class of the century.

Yeah, I know but I always lament that they do not let the underclassmen compete in Mobile. That needs to change. Especially since USC guys almost always show up to play, even if they are top 5 guys.

As for the DE/OLB class its pretty good, but the DT class is the best since 2001 IMHO. That one had:

1 Seymour, Richard
2 Stroud, Marcus
3 Jenkins, Kris
4 Hampton, Casey
5 Warren, *Gerard
6 Lewis, Damione
7 Rogers, Shaun
8 Howard, Willie
9 Pickett, *Ryan

I can not believe how deep and talented this years DT class has shown.

Mr.Meanie
02-02-2010, 06:04 PM
Does NE need an ILB? How about Brandon Spikes?

iDENVER
02-02-2010, 06:05 PM
Brandon Graham-NE

iDENVER
02-02-2010, 06:07 PM
Does NE need an ILB? How about Brandon Spikes?

i think they need outside but im not 100 percent sure..doesn't mayo play inside?

elsid13
02-02-2010, 06:09 PM
i think they need outside but im not 100 percent sure..doesn't mayo play inside?

Yes he does. And they have Guyton who will be entering his 3rd season in the pros.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 06:12 PM
Does NE need an ILB? How about Brandon Spikes?

They need an OLB much more than ILB. They got Mayo 2 years ago and really need a pass rusher.

PRBronco
02-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Yeah, I know but I always lament that they do not let the underclassmen compete in Mobile. That needs to change. Especially since USC guys almost always show up to play, even if they are top 5 guys.

As for the DE/OLB class its pretty good, but the DT class is the best since 2001 IMHO. That one had:

1 Seymour, Richard
2 Stroud, Marcus
3 Jenkins, Kris
4 Hampton, Casey
5 Warren, *Gerard
6 Lewis, Damione
7 Rogers, Shaun
8 Howard, Willie
9 Pickett, *Ryan

I can not believe how deep and talented this years DT class has shown.

Lol every time this list is posted a Cleveland Browns fan dies.

My pick for the Pats is....Mike Iupati? Is he still available?

jebures
02-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Jared Odrick to Pats

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 06:31 PM
Lol every time this list is posted a Cleveland Browns fan dies.

My pick for the Pats is....Mike Iupati? Is he still available?

NO, Iupati went to SF several picks ago.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 06:34 PM
I think I will go Griffin here, just to keep Graham from NE ;D

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 06:46 PM
No concensus here right now. Graham, Griffen, and Odrick are all together ina tight heap. The other guy who fits here is Brian Price if they let Vince Wilfork walk. I bet they tag and trade him and then Price would be just as important as a Pass rusher.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 06:50 PM
I'm suprised Odrick hasn't gone yet. Chalk me up for Odrick.

ayjackson
02-02-2010, 06:54 PM
Jared Odrick for me.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 07:00 PM
I'm suprised Odrick hasn't gone yet. Chalk me up for Odrick.

I am not surprised. I like Odrick, but that second tier of DT's is going to be valued very differently than the top 2. Certain teams will grade one or the other higher due to scheme and need. In this case, Odrick could be a late First rounder.

anton
02-02-2010, 07:00 PM
I think its going to be a 34 OLB, but can we just pick Odrick to move on

gunns
02-02-2010, 07:13 PM
Yeah give Oldrick to the Pats. Penn St. player. ;D

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 07:29 PM
22. New England: Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 07:30 PM
Green Bay Is on the Clock.....

elsid13
02-02-2010, 07:32 PM
GB needs offense line, but it would a reach here. Going Jonathan Dwyer. Gives them a solid running game, that will help Rodgers and keep defenses honest.

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 07:34 PM
I think Anton was advocating Bruce Campbell pretty high, better than Bulaga. They need OT/OG help real bad and I think they go after Campbell.

Arkie
02-02-2010, 07:35 PM
Bruce Campbell for Green Bay

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 07:37 PM
Good to see you arkie!

jebures
02-02-2010, 07:41 PM
This is my BOOMSTICK!!!, Bruce Campbell T Maryland to GB

meangene
02-02-2010, 07:56 PM
Campbell. They desperately need OL help. I don't think he is a reach here.

anton
02-02-2010, 08:26 PM
Absolutely Bruce Campbell. lock it up

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Where are we at? Can somebody update the list?

Taco John
02-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Where are we at? Can somebody update the list?

Will do Ro.

Sorry guys. Had daddy stuff going on. :)

Thanks to Med for helping out.

Taco John
02-02-2010, 08:52 PM
23. Green Bay Packers - Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

Taco John
02-02-2010, 08:52 PM
Philadephia is on the clock

Taco John
02-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Round 1
St. Louis (1-15) - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Detroit (2-14) - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Tampa Bay (3-13) - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Washington (4-12) - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
Kansas City (4-12) - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
Seattle (5-11) - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Cleveland (5-11) - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
Oakland (5-11) - Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
Buffalo (6-10) - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Jacksonville^ (7-9) - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
Denver - from Chicago^ (7-9) - Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
Miami (7-9) - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
San Francisco (8-8) - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
Seattle - from Denver (8-8) - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
New York Giants (8-8) - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
Tennessee^ (8-8) - Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
San Francisco - from Carolina^ (8-8) - Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho
Pittsburgh (9-7) - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
Atlanta^ (9-7) - Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
Houston^ (9-7) - CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
Cincinnati* (10-6) - Taylor Mays, S, USC
New England* (10-6) - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
Green Bay* (11-5) - Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland

jebures
02-02-2010, 08:56 PM
OLB Novarro Bowman Penn St. to eagles

SouthStndJunkie
02-02-2010, 09:12 PM
Eagles: Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 09:14 PM
MLB Brandon Spikes Florida

I think Stewart Bradley is a very good MLB if he can stay healthy.

They would be much better with a DB or OLB than a MLB. Nate Allen might be a little high here, but he would help solidify the mess they have back there right now. Patrick Robinson, Devin McCourty, Dominique Franks, and Kyle Wilson are all solid fits too @ CB.

At LB, Sean Weatherspoon makes a lot of sense. He can play multiple places. Same thing with Ricky Sapp. Spoon is an excellent scheme fit though as he can blitz or cover just as well.

SpringStein
02-02-2010, 09:17 PM
Brandon Graham at DE would fit nicely with Patterson and Bunkley at DTs. Build on their strength.

jebures
02-02-2010, 09:18 PM
I think Stewart Bradley is a very good MLB if he can stay healthy.

They would be much better with a DB or OLB than a MLB. Nate Allen might be a little high here, but he would help solidify the mess they have back there right now. Patrick Robinson, Devin McCourty, Dominique Franks, and Kyle Wilson are all solid fits too @ CB.

At LB, Sean Weatherspoon makes a lot of sense. He can play multiple places. Same thing with Ricky Sapp. Spoon is an excellent scheme fit though as he can blitz or cover just as well.

ahh yes I totally forgot about him, he was on IR and I just remember trotter playing MLB

Mediator12
02-02-2010, 09:20 PM
Eagles: Navorro Bowman, OLB, Penn State

Not a big fan of Bowman. Definitely not in the first of this draft.

SouthStndJunkie
02-02-2010, 09:22 PM
I think Stewart Bradley is a very good MLB if he can stay healthy.

They would be much better with a DB or OLB than a MLB. Nate Allen might be a little high here, but he would help solidify the mess they have back there right now. Patrick Robinson, Devin McCourty, Dominique Franks, and Kyle Wilson are all solid fits too @ CB.

At LB, Sean Weatherspoon makes a lot of sense. He can play multiple places. Same thing with Ricky Sapp. Spoon is an excellent scheme fit though as he can blitz or cover just as well.

Poop....I forgot about Sean Weatherspoon....that would have been my selection. I am going to go back and edit my post.

I left my list for this mock at work.

Sean Weatherspoon is going to be a stud in the NFL.

Rohirrim
02-02-2010, 09:24 PM
Everson Griffen, DE, USC

anton
02-03-2010, 01:47 AM
graham to the eagles

meangene
02-03-2010, 04:22 AM
Weatherspoon. Their LB play was really weak last year and they have a couple guys coming off of injury. Plus, he could help fill the leadership role they lost with Dawkins. Seems like and Eagles type of player.

PRBronco
02-03-2010, 07:17 AM
My vote is for Spoon to the Eagles as well.

ludo21
02-03-2010, 07:51 AM
Graham - I think he would be a great fit there on the End for them.

Spoon is also a guy you cant go wrong with here.

Bronco Boy
02-03-2010, 08:08 AM
Graham

ColoradoBuff
02-03-2010, 08:35 AM
Weatherspoon

Rohirrim
02-03-2010, 08:43 AM
I'll switch to Spoon so we can keep moving. ;D

Rohirrim
02-03-2010, 09:07 AM
24. Philadelphia Eagles - Sean Weatherspoon, LB, Missouri

Ravens are on the clock.

Rohirrim
02-03-2010, 09:08 AM
I think the Ravens would go for Golden Tate. They need to replace Derrick Mason.

meangene
02-03-2010, 09:11 AM
I think the Ravens would go for Golden Tate. They need to replace Derrick Mason.

I second that selection! Golden Tate.

PRBronco
02-03-2010, 09:12 AM
Agreed, Tate to the Ravens.

ColoradoBuff
02-03-2010, 09:12 AM
A. Benn- WR

SoDak Bronco
02-03-2010, 09:16 AM
Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois - Baltimore needs WR help bad

Cool Breeze
02-03-2010, 09:24 AM
Arrelious Benn

SouthStndJunkie
02-03-2010, 09:25 AM
I am not sold on Arrelious Benn.

I think the Ravens would be better off with Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame.

Mr.Meanie
02-03-2010, 09:26 AM
Golden Tate

ColoradoBuff
02-03-2010, 09:35 AM
I think Benn is going to test well and rise up the charts.