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Pony Boy
01-30-2010, 09:05 AM
The Obama administration is considering several steps that would review the legality of the controversial Bowl Championship Series, the Justice Department said in a letter Friday to a senator who had asked for an antitrust review.
Several lawmakers and many critics want the BCS to switch to a playoff system, rather than the ratings system it uses to determine the teams that play in the championship game.
"The administration shares your belief that the current lack of a college football national championship playoff with respect to the highest division of college football ... raises important questions affecting millions of fans, colleges and universities, players and other interested parties," Weich wrote.
Weich made note of the fact that President Barack Obama, before he was sworn in, had stated his preference for a playoff system. In 2008, Obama said he was going to "to throw my weight around a little bit" to nudge college football toward a playoff system, a point that Hatch stressed when he urged Obama last fall to ask the department to investigate the BCS.

The questions is do we really want Obama to sick his nose in college football? Do you think he has enough on his plate keeping the economy from going under?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/01/29/obama.bcs.ap/index.html?xid=si_ncaaf

Meck77
01-30-2010, 09:07 AM
Maybe it's just me but I'd like him to focus on getting us out of Iraq (As promised) and maybe that little thing called the recession.

Rohirrim
01-30-2010, 09:12 AM
Obama doesn't actually have to "do" anything about it. Just have some congressman start asking questions. Apply a little pressure, and the PR starts going against the BCS. The bowl system is an anachronism anyway. Everybody knows it can't last, so why cling to it to its final, dying breath?

Pony Boy
01-30-2010, 09:14 AM
In 2008, Obama said he was going to "to throw my weight around a little bit" to nudge college football toward a playoff system.

WTF is Obama's deal........will we call it the Obama National Championship.

gunns
01-30-2010, 09:18 AM
Maybe it's just me but I'd like him to focus on getting us out of Iraq (As promised) and maybe that little thing called the recession.

Me too. It's something that needs to be changed and it's sad it has to go all the way to the President. Too bad the BCS didn't take the initiative on their own. They recognize the problem or TCU and Boise State wouldn't have been paired together to help the BCS save face this year.

yerner
01-30-2010, 09:18 AM
Orrin Hatch actually asked for the investigation I believe. Just so this doesn't turn into a Obama bitch fest.

I love it. The BCS is a ****ing joke.

Pony Boy
01-30-2010, 09:24 AM
Orrin Hatch actually asked for the investigation I believe. Just so this doesn't turn into a Obama b**** fest.

I love it. The BCS is a ****ing joke.

I agree BCS is a joke but what's wrong with a good old Obama b**** fest.

RhymesayersDU
01-30-2010, 09:35 AM
I'm no Obama fan, but if he can get the BCS changed that will be awesome.

_Oro_
01-30-2010, 09:46 AM
Obama, getr done!

UberBroncoMan
01-30-2010, 09:48 AM
I'm a fan of a college playoff system too, but a politician, even more so a president trying to influence and change **** like this is pathetic. Fix the ****ing economy, and stop being a ****-up. Who knows how much he's really involved, but regardless, this should be the last thing on the administrations mind... then again so should other stuff but that's not stopping them.

orinjkrush
01-30-2010, 09:49 AM
what? the "private sector" NCAA can't run its own bidness? we should have "governmental oversight"?

bwahahaha

UberBroncoMan
01-30-2010, 09:52 AM
what? the "private sector" NCAA can't run its own bidness? we should have "governmental oversight"?

bwahahaha

That's exactly what pisses me off. This is a free market not a ****ing Communist country that has the government in every god damn facet of life. Obama is pissing me off more and more, then again I expected this **** from him based on how he was raised, his voting record, and who he's appointed so /shrug.

Government does two things great... **** **** up and waist lots of money. It's not that bad if it's small but when it gets big (like it's doing right now) it multiplies in how bad it gets.

Rohirrim
01-30-2010, 09:55 AM
Ha! NFL fans complaining about "government involvement in sports." The NFL, and MLB for that matter, wouldn't exist in its present manifestation without some of the monopoly exemptions created by government.

Taco John
01-30-2010, 10:01 AM
I cannot believe that the federal government in involving themselves with this. I mean, I can believe it. But what I can't believe is that our populace is so cowed that they'd accept it.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 10:15 AM
Orrin Hatch actually asked for the investigation I believe. Just so this doesn't turn into a Obama b**** fest.

I love it. The BCS is a ****ing joke.

Hatch is a moron for writing the letter and requesting DOJ look into it, and whoever in the Obama Administration thought this was a good idea to consider, is a moron as well.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 10:18 AM
and for everyone who hates the BCS, I'm guessing that all of you don't watch the BCS games and you don't support the sponsors who advertise during the games, right?

Of course not. You guys will bitch but you're too ****ing lazy to actually do something about it and try to make it a financial loser for the NCAA and their sponsors.

Pony Boy
01-30-2010, 10:21 AM
what? the "private sector" NCAA can't run its own bidness? we should have "governmental oversight"?

bwahahaha

Obama and the Feds need to keep their nose out of the private sector and the NCAA. The NCAA and BCS will continue to put a product on the field and if you don't like it, don't watch the games....... If we continure to watch a poor product then shame on us....

epicSocialism4tw
01-30-2010, 10:22 AM
Boise State are the 2009 National Champions

Archer81
01-30-2010, 10:22 AM
I am trying to see how checking the legality of the BCS will stimulate job growth, stabilize Afghanistan, withdraw troops from Iraq, whether or not to try terrorists in civilian or military courts, reduce the deficit or sift through the nonsense that is Demcare. Is that the magical key? Fix the BCS and the world's problems will go away?

:Broncos:

Pony Boy
01-30-2010, 10:37 AM
Boise State are the 2009 National Champions

I know it will piss of the homers but watching the Boise State and TCU game was like watching a high school championship game, well maybe not a championship game just a regular high school game.

SouthStndJunkie
01-30-2010, 10:38 AM
As much as I would love to see a college playoff system, it should not be up to these ****wads to force it.

Get to work on more pressing matters, ****sticks.

bronco610
01-30-2010, 10:40 AM
Don't worry about it people. He hasn't been able to do anything else he said he was going to do either.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Lev Vyvanse
01-30-2010, 10:44 AM
Obama and the Feds need to keep their nose out of the private sector and the NCAA. The NCAA and BCS will continue to put a product on the field and if you don't like it, don't watch the games....... If we continure to watch a poor product then shame on us....

You know higher education is federally funded right? That kind of kills the whole "private sector" argument.

Archer81
01-30-2010, 10:45 AM
You know higher education is federally funded right? That kind of kills the whole "private sector" argument.


Not really. And not all colleges are federally funded.


:Broncos:

Dr. Broncenstein
01-30-2010, 10:47 AM
Well if nothing else this sideshow distracts from the clowning Obama recieved by way of Scott Brown.

Lev Vyvanse
01-30-2010, 10:48 AM
Not really. And not all colleges are federally funded.


:Broncos:

Yeah there called private colleges.

~Crash~
01-30-2010, 10:49 AM
oh Otap show....

Archer81
01-30-2010, 10:52 AM
Yeah there called private colleges.


Yup.


:Broncos:

Greatspirits
01-30-2010, 10:59 AM
I'd rather him destroy the GOP than the BCS!!

rmsanger
01-30-2010, 11:00 AM
I actually think this is a very appropriate use of power here... Sorry to the reps on this forum. I'm with you on most of the anti-Obama stances on his fiscal policies but this one will do some good. This is what everyone wants and if it take the President of the US to rattle the establishments cage then so be it.

Archer81
01-30-2010, 11:03 AM
I'd rather him destroy the GOP than the BCS!!


Democrats do not like the word destroy. It has negative connotations. They prefer "permanently alter in an explosive way"...of course...the dems are engaging in self inflicted permanently alter is an explosive wayisms...


:Broncos:

yerner
01-30-2010, 11:04 AM
and for everyone who hates the BCS, I'm guessing that all of you don't watch the BCS games and you don't support the sponsors who advertise during the games, right?

Of course not. You guys will b**** but you're too ****ing lazy to actually do something about it and try to make it a financial loser for the NCAA and their sponsors.

Actually I don't watch the BCS games genius. I think they are pointless.

Rohirrim
01-30-2010, 11:18 AM
I can only hope that Bolshevik Obama fails in everything he tries and the U.S. government collapses completely. Then, we'd all be better off. We don't need government for anything. And I shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all. Everything should be privatized and turned over to free market principles which will pave the way to paradise.

gunns
01-30-2010, 11:19 AM
I know it will piss of the homers but watching the Boise State and TCU game was like watching a high school championship game, well maybe not a championship game just a regular high school game.

Yeah, kind of like Ohio State every year and Florida-OK last year.

~Crash~
01-30-2010, 11:22 AM
I can only hope that Bolshevik Obama fails in everything he tries and the U.S. government collapses completely. Then, we'd all be better off. We don't need government for anything. And I shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all. Everything should be privatized and turned over to free market principles which will pave the way to paradise.

Since you put it that way thanks I actually want that now . I was in the mode just vote out but you know freedom don't come free ....:clown:

~Crash~
01-30-2010, 11:27 AM
Picture Rohirrim in a robe on a poppet ..."the Government will set you Free"


Rusty were are you know ....probably drunk licking you slobber off the floor...

bronco610
01-30-2010, 11:57 AM
Actually I don't watch the BCS games genius. I think they are pointless.

+ 1. There is no point to BCS because it is not a real championship.
As far as I am concerned the BCS proves who is the best in college football along the same lines the probowl proves which is best between the AFC and the NFC.

tsiguy96
01-30-2010, 12:01 PM
keep in mind, the bowl system DOES affect hundreds of colleges that do not get a real shot at competing, and thus are affected groslly because of revenue possibilities. its a way that the top schools can keep the smaller schools from ever having the possiblity to compete, and since they cant compete talent assembles at the same schools, and thus those schools are the only ones who are really good. if the system was fair it wouldnt exclude so many schools from having the possibility of competing.

barryr
01-30-2010, 12:09 PM
If jobs are created from it somehow, then go for it, but if not, then this issue just isn't that important for the president or Congress to be worrying about.

Chris
01-30-2010, 12:10 PM
It's the same way you break up an unfair monopoly. Let the schools that do well have their shot instead of this arbitrary system that props up the programs with the most resources.

tsiguy96
01-30-2010, 12:18 PM
It's the same way you break up an unfair monopoly. Let the schools that do well have their shot instead of this arbitrary system that props up the programs with the most resources.

thats sorta what it boils down to, the system right now is designed to allow a very, very small amount of schools a realistic shot at the title, even if they go undefeated.

gtown
01-30-2010, 12:25 PM
People are gonna bitch about how this somehow violates some tenet of capitalism and undermines the fabric of our society through some kind of socialist scheme. That's BS. This is about making college football better. The BCS sucks and it needs to be replaced with an actual tournament that determines an undisputed national champion.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 12:38 PM
I can only hope that Bolshevik Obama fails in everything he tries and the U.S. government collapses completely. Then, we'd all be better off. We don't need government for anything. And I shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all. Everything should be privatized and turned over to free market principles which will pave the way to paradise.

Brilliant, just brilliant. But it's also weird that the first person to mention socialism in this thread, is you. Everyone else against this is calling it stupid because the government has more important things to do.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 12:40 PM
I actually think this is a very appropriate use of power here... Sorry to the reps on this forum. I'm with you on most of the anti-Obama stances on his fiscal policies but this one will do some good. This is what everyone wants and if it take the President of the US to rattle the establishments cage then so be it.

Everyone doesn't want this, including the NCAA, the BCS, and the bowl sponsors. The organizations that are party to the contracts and the ones whose money is on the line.

The BCS system will continue as long as everyone involved is making money off of what's in place. Maybe the fans should retaliate with their money and not watch the games, attend the games, or purchase things from people who sponsor the games and buy advertising?

No, that'll never happen it would require people to actually do something instead of just expecting the government to do something about it.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 12:42 PM
People are gonna b**** about how this somehow violates some tenet of capitalism and undermines the fabric of our society through some kind of socialist scheme. That's BS. This is about making college football better. The BCS sucks and it needs to be replaced with an actual tournament that determines an undisputed national champion.

Yes, and let's have the government get involved in something that is so trivial in the grand scheme of things- determining what system is best for deciding the national champion in college football. I know personally that ranks #1 by a long shot in things that are most important to me in the world.

elsid13
01-30-2010, 12:51 PM
Not really. And not all colleges are federally funded.


:Broncos:

That not correct. Even if they are private they receive significant funds from the Federal Government either through student aid packages or research grants.

gunns
01-30-2010, 01:02 PM
Everyone doesn't want this, including the NCAA, the BCS, and the bowl sponsors. The organizations that are party to the contracts and the ones whose money is on the line.

The BCS system will continue as long as everyone involved is making money off of what's in place. Maybe the fans should retaliate with their money and not watch the games, attend the games, or purchase things from people who sponsor the games and buy advertising?


No, that'll never happen it would require people to actually do something instead of just expecting the government to do something about it.

I've always loved the bolded argument....the same people will attend the BCS team games because they don't care and we'll still be at square one because the BCS doesn't care what happens with the other schools. Please. And the underlined.....everyone involved with the BCS (and that would be all of the schools) aren't making money because the opportunity is being withheld from them.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 01:16 PM
I've always loved the bolded argument....the same people will attend the BCS team games because they don't care and we'll still be at square one because the BCS doesn't care what happens with the other schools. Please. And the underlined.....everyone involved with the BCS (and that would be all of the schools) aren't making money because the opportunity is being withheld from them.

Yep, people will still attend the games because for all the whining that goes on about the current system, people still don't have the sack to walk away. That's their own personal problem, not the NCAA's or the BCS'. Guess that means the BCS, the bowls involved in the BCS, and the schools and their conferences who play in the games will continue to make money/fund their athletic departments.

What is square one exactly? A system you don't like is in place, so therefore something must be done to change it to a system that you find more preferable?

Those schools who have this "opportunity" withheld from them should go complain to the NCAA, you know, since they're member schools in both their conferences and the NCAA. But I like how we're now into a discriminatory-type complaint about the system, these little schools just aren't allowed to compete with the big schools.

TexanBob
01-30-2010, 01:33 PM
Where do I put in my resume for Football Playoff Czar? What?? I need to give a $50K kickback to Obama's re-election campaign before I'll be considered? Well, **** that.

sixtimeseight
01-30-2010, 07:18 PM
I can only hope that Bolshevik Obama fails in everything he tries and the U.S. government collapses completely. Then, we'd all be better off. We don't need government for anything. And I shouldn't have to pay any taxes at all. Everything should be privatized and turned over to free market principles which will pave the way to paradise.

lol. people like this actually exist?

tsiguy96
01-30-2010, 07:24 PM
Yes, and let's have the government get involved in something that is so trivial in the grand scheme of things- determining what system is best for deciding the national champion in college football. I know personally that ranks #1 by a long shot in things that are most important to me in the world.

its not just who determines the national champion, its the economics of the multi billion dollar industry being determined by an unfair system, with many schools being repressed economically because their football team cant compete on a fair level because of the current BCS system.

gunns
01-30-2010, 07:27 PM
Yep, people will still attend the games because for all the whining that goes on about the current system, people still don't have the sack to walk away. That's their own personal problem, not the NCAA's or the BCS'. Guess that means the BCS, the bowls involved in the BCS, and the schools and their conferences who play in the games will continue to make money/fund their athletic departments.

What is square one exactly? A system you don't like is in place, so therefore something must be done to change it to a system that you find more preferable?

Those schools who have this "opportunity" withheld from them should go complain to the NCAA, you know, since they're member schools in both their conferences and the NCAA. But I like how we're now into a discriminatory-type complaint about the system, these little schools just aren't allowed to compete with the big schools.

The whining isn't done by the schools and their fans who are already getting the money. It's a monopoly that's in place, basically withholding money from certain schools because of a determination made by that monopoly. Yes, something needs to be done to change the system. The schools have complained to the NCAA. NADA. That's why it's gone further. It isn't just a matter of them being able to compete with big schools, it's being able to compete for the money, given the opportunity that they earn and possibly not being such a "little" school anymore. Given the opportunity, the whole deal would be upon those "little" schools.

nickademus
01-30-2010, 09:11 PM
I cannot believe that the federal government in involving themselves with this. I mean, I can believe it. But what I can't believe is that our populace is so cowed that they'd accept it.

seriously? after the hearings and investigations into sterriods for MLB you question wether or not the govnt would waste our money by forcing the bcs to change? I agree that we need a playoff but cant obama find a better way to save his approval rating?

bombay
01-30-2010, 09:35 PM
Glad he's taking action and I hope he succeeds. The bcs is horse****.

And any action taken in DC other than the normal course of action is an improvement.

A pox on all of their greedy little houses.

Broncojef
01-30-2010, 09:48 PM
BCS sucks, I bet Obama and staff are dreaming of ways to tax the hell out of the championship and funnel the money to ACORN...best of all worlds there. :rofl:

fdf
01-30-2010, 11:04 PM
The Obama administration is considering several steps that would review the legality of the controversial Bowl Championship Series, the Justice Department said in a letter Friday to a senator who had asked for an antitrust review.
Several lawmakers and many critics want the BCS to switch to a playoff system, rather than the ratings system it uses to determine the teams that play in the championship game.
"The administration shares your belief that the current lack of a college football national championship playoff with respect to the highest division of college football ... raises important questions affecting millions of fans, colleges and universities, players and other interested parties," Weich wrote.
Weich made note of the fact that President Barack Obama, before he was sworn in, had stated his preference for a playoff system. In 2008, Obama said he was going to "to throw my weight around a little bit" to nudge college football toward a playoff system, a point that Hatch stressed when he urged Obama last fall to ask the department to investigate the BCS.

The questions is do we really want Obama to sick his nose in college football? Do you think he has enough on his plate keeping the economy from going under?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/ncaa/01/29/obama.bcs.ap/index.html?xid=si_ncaaf

When I first read about this, I thought it must surely be a parody on a government that in one year, has taken over the auto and banking industries, and now has it's eyes on health care. I thought the jist of the article was Barak Obama want's to control everything--and hence the comic riff on college football.

Turns out, he does want to control everything, even college football. You really can't parody that.

SoCalBronco
01-30-2010, 11:09 PM
keep in mind, the bowl system DOES affect hundreds of colleges that do not get a real shot at competing, and thus are affected groslly because of revenue possibilities.

Actually, the bowl system is very profitable for many of the mid-tier programs. I think you'll find that alot of the resistance to say an 8-team or even a larger 16-team playoff would come from those mediocre to decent teams that are generally in the 6-6 to 8-4 range (who occasionally have a 9 or 10 win year every 5 years or so). If the Bowl system were repealed, alot of these programs (and their conferences) would lose the mid-tier bowl money they would have otherwise had. It's not the Texas's, Florida's, Miami's, Alabama's, Ohio State's and USC's of the world that need the bowls. It's the 2nd and 3rd tier programs that do. The big teams will always be in the Top 16 and will usually be in the Top 8 (to quality for a tournament). The Boston College's or Michigan State's of the world would never qualify, but could at least get a million or so from a late December bowl game.

So the idea that the Bowls are somehow bad for all the smaller name colleges is garbage. The Bowl system provides alot of money to alot of teams that would not have otherwise gotten a slice of anything. Now...I do agree that once you get to the elite clubs in a given year, it might be a better idea to have an actual playoff of those top 8 or maybe even top 4, but you shouldn't destroy the other bowls because they do bring in some cash for the 95% of FBS teams that aren't going to end up in the Top 8.

As far as Congress or the President acting...I don't have a problem with it. I think it's kind of a strawman to suggest that if Congress works on this, they can't be working on other more important things. That's not quite the case. That's why we have committees and subcommittees that hold hearings on a wide variety of topics every day and mark-up tons of bills every day. It's not like the Congress as a whole is simply considering one item at a time before they can get to anything else (although its sort of seemed that way with health care lately). There are tons of things that each subcommittee handles every week...I see no reason why the BCS shouldn't be one of them...although I suspect that from a strategic standpoint, if someone wants to "change" the Bowl System (and the BCS in terms of determining a champion), they would probably be more successful raising anti-trust challenges under the Sherman Act and the rule of reason analysis, where the Court could weigh the pro-competitive and anti-competitive benefits of the BCS structure, rather than by new congressional legislation.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 11:18 PM
its not just who determines the national champion, its the economics of the multi billion dollar industry being determined by an unfair system, with many schools being repressed economically because their football team cant compete on a fair level because of the current BCS system.

The BCS, economically oppressing the little schools since 1998. College football came into existence at that point, right? I mean there were no prior seasons where the NCAA, sponsors, etc. could have seen that the little schools in smaller conferences weren't consistently turning out national contender quality teams that would warrant an automatic BCS bid to it's winner, right? It's all the big, bad BCS' fault and they're just keeping the little schools down.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 11:20 PM
As far as Congress or the President acting...I don't have a problem with it. I think it's kind of a strawman to suggest that if Congress works on this, they can't be working on other more important things. That's not quite the case. That's why we have committees and subcommittees that hold hearings on a wide variety of topics every day and mark-up tons of bills every day. It's not like the Congress as a whole is simply considering one item at a time before they can get to anything else (although its sort of seemed that way with health care lately). There are tons of things that each subcommittee handles every week...I see no reason why the BCS shouldn't be one of them...although I suspect that from a strategic standpoint, if someone wants to "change" the Bowl System (and the BCS in terms of determining a champion), they would probably be more successful raising anti-trust challenges under the Sherman Act and the rule of reason analysis, where the Court could weigh the pro-competitive and anti-competitive benefits of the BCS structure, rather than by new congressional legislation.

I think a lot of people would argue that Congress cannot walk and chew bubble game at the same time.

And it's not that they can't do anything else at the same time, it's that this is something Congress does not need to involve itself in.

SoCalBronco
01-30-2010, 11:26 PM
I think a lot of people would argue that Congress cannot walk and chew bubble game at the same time.

And it's not that they can't do anything else at the same time, it's that this is something Congress does not need to involve itself in.

They could argue that, but its not really true. Keep in mind, I'm not claiming that Congress is great, or is currently doing a bang up job at solving people's problems, or that its current leadership are people I approve of (all three of those would be untrue statements), I'm just talking about how the institution in general operates and handles things in different fields. You of all people, as a former congressional aide, should know all the different kinds of stuff that each subcommittee has hearings about and discusses on a daily basis. I'm not saying that this thing should be entitled to three or four weeks worth of continuous hearings. Obviously, its not worth that much time, for even a single committee or subcommittee...but if Hatch or whoever wants to introduce something and they want to have a couple hearings on it and see how far his bill goes, that's fine. That's how it is with everything else...no matter how trivial it is (i.e. bills designed to change rules as to animal cage regulations, etc.).

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 11:28 PM
The whining isn't done by the schools and their fans who are already getting the money. It's a monopoly that's in place, basically withholding money from certain schools because of a determination made by that monopoly. Yes, something needs to be done to change the system. The schools have complained to the NCAA. NADA. That's why it's gone further. It isn't just a matter of them being able to compete with big schools, it's being able to compete for the money, given the opportunity that they earn and possibly not being such a "little" school anymore. Given the opportunity, the whole deal would be upon those "little" schools.

With holding money? God. To claim that the BCS (or the NCAA) is with holding money, you'd have to argue that these little schools are entitled to the money in the first place. If I'm a multi-nation corporation and I want to sponsor a bowl game between an SEC and PAC 10 schools with a $1M payout to each school, that's my perogative. That doesn't mean I'm with holding money from Podunk St in the Mountain West. They're not entitled to it, and they didn't earn it.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-30-2010, 11:29 PM
They could argue that, but its not really true. Keep in mind, I'm not claiming that Congress is great, or is currently doing a bang up job at solving people's problems, or that its current leadership are people I approve of (all three of those would be untrue statements), I'm just talking about how the institution in general operates and handles things in different fields. You of all people, as a former congressional aide, should know all the different kinds of stuff that each subcommittee has hearings about and discusses on a daily basis. I'm not saying that this thing should be entitled to three or four weeks worth of continuous hearings. Obviously, its not worth that much time, for even a single committee or subcommittee...but if Hatch or whoever wants to introduce something and they want to have a couple hearings on it and see how far his bill goes, that's fine. That's how it is with everything else...no matter how trivial it is (i.e. bills designed to change rules as to animal cage regulations, etc.).

Oh I know they have the capacity to do it, I just think it's retarded that it's even considered.

gunns
01-31-2010, 12:01 AM
With holding money? God. To claim that the BCS (or the NCAA) is with holding money, you'd have to argue that these little schools are entitled to the money in the first place. If I'm a multi-nation corporation and I want to sponsor a bowl game between an SEC and PAC 10 schools with a $1M payout to each school, that's my perogative. That doesn't mean I'm with holding money from Podunk St in the Mountain West. They're not entitled to it, and they didn't earn it.

You, like many, say they haven't earned it because they have not been given the chance. Utah, the first non BCS buster, won their game handily against Pittsburgh. Yes Pitt wasn't the cream of the crop but they weren't given the chance, by the BCS, to compete with the cream of the crop although they finished 4th in the nation and that was a difference in the $millions.

And last year, they weren't given a chance in hell against Alabama but did it, only undefeated team in the nation, should have been the championship game. Now you can say they can't compete, but no one knows until they are given the chance and they were entitled to that chance. That chance also gives them the chance to entice better players, making them more competitive and a chance at money that makes a huge difference to these schools but is being withheld from these schools.