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tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 06:12 AM
about chicago not being able to find offensive staff

The perception is that no one wants to come work for Smith, who is in a win-or-else situation, but rumblings at the Senior Bowl are that some candidates could be turned off by quarterback Jay Cutler and donít want to hitch their wagon to him. Still, few quarterbacks possess the skills of Cutler. Today marks Day 21 of the coaching search.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Bears-move-to-Plan-E-for-coordinator.html

Archer81
01-26-2010, 06:45 AM
You dont understand. The frowncannon cannot be denied...!


:Broncos:

jhns
01-26-2010, 06:47 AM
Why don't all of you Bears fans just head on over to the Bears message boards?

TheDave
01-26-2010, 06:54 AM
Because of the CBA it's going to be tough to add players in FA this year, chicago has no picks in the 1st 2 rounds, and EVERYONE knows Lovie is facing a make or break season... I don't doubt Jays atitude plays a part but this is much more a statement of job security.

ColoradoDarin
01-26-2010, 06:57 AM
I think part of it is Jay Culter's reputation of not accepting coaching (small part, but it's out there) and the big part is that Lovie is probably gone after this year, so you're going into a no-win situation. You need a one-year rental - paging Lane Kiffen, Lane Kiffen to the white curtesy phone.

TonyR
01-26-2010, 10:31 AM
Cross Zampese off Bears list too
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 26, 2010 10:08 AM ET

Does anyone want to work with Jay Cutler around here? Anyone?

Hue Jackson canceled an interview for the Bears offensive coordinator position Tuesday, and now the Chicago Tribune writes that Bengals quarterback coach Ken Zampese is also out of the mix.

In this case, the decision wasn't Zampese's to make. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis gave Zampese a one-week deadline to make a decision after interviewing for the Bears job. Zampese didn't get an offer, so he's out of the running.

Jackson is the second coach to cancel an interview with Chicago; Jeremy Bates went to Seattle without meeting with the Bears.

This leaves the Bears at square one. The only other man to interview was Rob Chudzinski, who apparently doesn't want the job either.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/26/cross-zampese-off-bears-list-too/

broncocalijohn
01-26-2010, 10:33 AM
The first part of Lovie in a possible one more year and done can have a bigger effect than working with Cutler. If it is all on Cutler to these "candidates", then we can safely say that Cutler is a coach killer before they even become the coach.

TheReverend
01-26-2010, 10:35 AM
I'd just like everyone to take note once again that a Bears/Cutler thread was once again started and once again not by the "widows"

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 10:50 AM
The first part of Lovie in a possible one more year and done can have a bigger effect than working with Cutler. If it is all on Cutler to these "candidates", then we can safely say that Cutler is a coach killer before they even become the coach.

the cutler thing is completely minor compared to lovie being a lame duck for sure, but it is a factor.

HEAV
01-26-2010, 10:59 AM
Yo Tsiguy,

You should modify the thread title and make it more specific. Ala Cutler turns off candidates.


rumblings at the Senior Bowl are that some candidates could be turned off by quarterback Jay Cutler

Like I said in the Cutler interview thread. You don't put a player like Cutler in charge of your franchise coaching hires. You tell Cutler who is going to be his coach and tell him to deal with it as a young, still learning the NFL game quarterback.

Allowing Cutler any say is giving the "stroke" to a player that hasn't earned it. It also tells the candidates that they will not have any power over the QB.

jhns
01-26-2010, 11:06 AM
I'd just like everyone to take note once again that a Bears/Cutler thread was once again started and once again not by the "widows"

You are wrong. They are all posted by widows. We are just now figuring out who the biggest widows really are. The ones that defend giving away Cutler are the ones that can't get over him.

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 11:10 AM
You are wrong. They are all posted by widows. We are just now figuring out who the biggest widows really are. The ones that defend giving away Cutler are the ones that can't get over him.

believe me, i think theres very few bronco fans left who truly want him back. even after the OMG denver will be soooo bad without cutler!! mantra we heard all offseason, many of those people realized this team is better off long run without him. and the evidence continues to pour in that its true.

jhns
01-26-2010, 11:16 AM
believe me, i think theres very few bronco fans left who truly want him back. even after the OMG denver will be soooo bad without cutler!! mantra we heard all offseason, many of those people realized this team is better off long run without him. and the evidence continues to pour in that its true.

Then why are you still so obsessed with him? Like this for instance, it is a non-story. The playoffs haven't even finished. Every team has people tell them no for positions. One of the guys talked about wasn't even offered the position. If they still don't have anyone in a month, this starts being relecant. How do you know they aren't holding out for a coach that is still in the playoffs or just got beat?

As for the dumbasses thinking we are better without Cutler, I still laugh. Orton is complete ****. Just wait a few years. You will see the retardation that has plagued Bronco fans since McDaniels took over. When Cutler starts to put it together, there will be no defending McDaniels. He better turn this organization around quickly or people will start getting pissed again.

UberBroncoMan
01-26-2010, 11:23 AM
The Bears have no influence in our draft anymore. They are in the NFC... we aren't playing them for two more years.

Yeah it's funny... but who really cares?

SureShot
01-26-2010, 11:28 AM
Your time would be better spent building more beer pong tables or laying down monster doughnuts in your Eagle Talon.

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 11:33 AM
Your time would be better spent building more beer pong tables or laying down monster doughnuts in your Eagle Talon.

how many times i gotta tell you AWD cars dont do donuts for ****?

dont hate on the beer pong table, its ok to be jealous.

SureShot
01-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Wrong again TSi.

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tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 11:36 AM
Wrong again TSi.

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didnt know we were talking about actual race cars?

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
anyways, one thing i do find funny here is that people who dont like that cutler snubbed denver (we are a 6 afterall) are not allowed to discuss him because its us thats obsessed with him. maybe you dont want to discuss him because you people were 100% dead wrong about him, and seeing stuff like this just proves it? defense mechanism or something

SureShot
01-26-2010, 11:39 AM
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jhns
01-26-2010, 11:39 AM
anyways, one thing i do find funny here is that people who dont like that cutler snubbed denver (we are a 6 afterall) are not allowed to discuss him because its us thats obsessed with him. maybe you dont want to discuss him because you people were 100% dead wrong about him, and seeing stuff like this just proves it? defense mechanism or something

Or maybe it is that you cried for 6 months any time someone brought up his name and now you won't shut up about him. What a whiney little hypocrite.

I will argue every point I made last offseason. Try me.

Killericon
01-26-2010, 11:52 AM
http://punchingkitty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/mike-martz.jpg

DrFate
01-26-2010, 11:57 AM
I must have mistyped the URL. Apparently I got a Bears forum...

barryr
01-26-2010, 11:59 AM
The teams in the NFC figure to be very strong teams next year, so the Bears face an uphill climb to say the least of making the playoffs. The Eagles and Giants could be strong teams too and didn't even make the playoffs. Same with Atlanta.

RaiderH8r
01-26-2010, 12:05 PM
believe me, i think theres very few bronco fans left who truly want him back. even after the OMG denver will be soooo bad without cutler!! mantra we heard all offseason, many of those people realized this team is better off long run without him. and the evidence continues to pour in that its true.

2-8 down the stretch is quite a staggering piece of evidence as well.

Punisher
01-26-2010, 06:10 PM
Why don't all of you Bears fans just head on over to the Bears message boards?

Agree, but half of these brainless idiots will never be over with the Cutler trade so they'll probably post Bear Threads for the rest of the Orangemane Lifeline.

Circle Orange
01-26-2010, 06:37 PM
about chicago not being able to find offensive staff

The perception is that no one wants to come work for Smith, who is in a win-or-else situation, but rumblings at the Senior Bowl are that some candidates could be turned off by quarterback Jay Cutler and donít want to hitch their wagon to him. Still, few quarterbacks possess the skills of Cutler. Today marks Day 21 of the coaching search.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Bears-move-to-Plan-E-for-coordinator.html

yah, throwin' balls into triple coverage takes unique talent. Ask Favre!

rastaman
01-26-2010, 06:53 PM
believe me, i think theres very few bronco fans left who truly want him back. even after the OMG denver will be soooo bad without cutler!! mantra we heard all offseason, many of those people realized this team is better off long run without him. and the evidence continues to pour in that its true.

You haven't seen anything as polarizing as Josh McDaniel's! He's systematically destroying the Broncos to remake the Broncos in his own image. Nut hugging McD apologist like you foolishly believe that McD represents "Light At The End of The Tunnel". And you couldn't be further from the truth. I don't think the argument should be whether we are worse off with or without Cutler, the argument should be how worse we will get should McD continue on the same path he has currently embarked upon. ;)

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 08:16 PM
http://boards.chicagobears.com/forums/thread/2040192.aspx

hahaha this stuff is pretty funny. cutler has a "winning attitude" according to some bears fans. too bad its been about 10 years since has last had a winning season!

DBroncos4life
01-26-2010, 08:24 PM
Who doesn't spend time looking for Cutler news hmmm...

Archer81
01-26-2010, 08:29 PM
You haven't seen anything as polarizing as Josh McDaniel's! He's systematically destroying the Broncos to remake the Broncos in his own image. Nut hugging McD apologist like you foolishly believe that McD represents "Light At The End of The Tunnel". And you couldn't be further from the truth. I don't think the argument should be whether we are worse off with or without Cutler, the argument should be how worse we will get should McD continue on the same path he has currently embarked upon. ;)

You mean the Broncos that finished 7-9, 9-7 and 8-8 the last 3 seasons Shanahan was here? Those powerhouse teams?

The polarization argument is tired, too. Broncos staff has over 100 people on it. The team has 53 players. McDaniels has had the same problem with the same two players for the last 10 months, and thats it. But keep hammering the same broke dick dead horse.

:Broncos:

tsiguy96
01-26-2010, 08:40 PM
Who doesn't spend time looking for Cutler news hmmm...

im bored

80smith
01-26-2010, 08:41 PM
Go Blackhawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gob
01-26-2010, 08:42 PM
I am sure Lovie being a lame duck has something to do with it, but since one coach took a job with Tom Cable and the Raiders instead I don't think it is necessarily a big factor. I think coaches are correctly looking at the OC job as a no win situation. The offense is very short on talent as well as draft picks, Cutler is headstrong and turnover prone, and the fans and FO expectations is for the offense to be awesome after what they paid and are paying for him. If they do well, Cutler will get the credit, if not the OC gets the blame.

DBroncos4life
01-26-2010, 08:49 PM
im bored

Well that's cool thanks for keeping us informed about what Bears think about their QB. Why don't you just use the internet for what god intended it to be used for and look up porn?

spdirty
01-26-2010, 08:59 PM
**** it. Ill throw my hat in there. I play madden '10 and I could use the pay raise. I could do a year in a bull**** city.

snowspot66
01-26-2010, 09:14 PM
To all of you bitching about another Cutler/Bears thread how about you start up a fresh and interesting discussion about the latest Broncos news. Oh yeah, there is none. It's the off season for ****s sakes. Who cares what anybody posts now? There's not really anything else to talk about except banging players nappy sisters in the one thread.

Hamrob
01-27-2010, 10:04 AM
believe me, i think theres very few bronco fans left who truly want him back. even after the OMG denver will be soooo bad without cutler!! mantra we heard all offseason, many of those people realized this team is better off long run without him. and the evidence continues to pour in that its true.I certainly don't believe we are better off with Orton...if that's your argument?

TonyR
01-27-2010, 10:08 AM
The Eagles and Giants could be strong teams too and didn't even make the playoffs.

Eagles made the playoffs and lost to the Cowboys decisively.

jhns
01-27-2010, 10:10 AM
No new updates about what some random person thinks of Cutler today tsi? Wow you are slacking. If I wasn't lazy, it would be funny to get about 50-60 of the quotes from when you used to cry like no other whenever someone posted something about Cutler. All of that talk of everyone being Bears fans and needing to get over it. Maybe I will take the time at one point. I can just fill all of your Cutler threads with your own hypocrite responses.

Taco John
01-27-2010, 10:15 AM
I think that this shows the weakness of Chicago's management. I think they should have looked to install an entire new program. If it were me, I'd have looked to replace Lovie with Jon Gruden. I think that move would have been a shot to the arm for this team, which is what it needs. Lovie is just spinning his wheels there. The guy just can't put together a consistent scoring offense from year to year.

Bronco Boy
01-27-2010, 10:20 AM
What about Ditka

bronco610
01-27-2010, 10:47 AM
I think that this shows the weakness of Chicago's management. I think they should have looked to install an entire new program. If it were me, I'd have looked to replace Lovie with Jon Gruden. I think that move would have been a shot to the arm for this team, which is what it needs. Lovie is just spinning his wheels there. The guy just can't put together a consistent scoring offense from year to year.

I am not sure its just his offensive know how. He may just be a bad manager and can't even put a good coaching staff together.

People can blame cutler or the lame duck theory but we have all had morons for bosses that we didn't want to work for even if they were nice guys.

I am sure as tight as the NFL world is word gets around and so people may be declining interviews or taking jobs else where because of the management style of the bears.

azbroncfan
01-27-2010, 10:52 AM
I will say if Cutler was never traded the Omane would be making excuses for him and saying he is the 3rd best QB in the league and I wouldn't trade him for no one.

TonyR
01-27-2010, 11:09 AM
I will say if Cutler was never traded the Omane would be making excuses for him and saying he is the 3rd best QB in the league and I wouldn't trade him for no one.

Agree, and I'd probably be one of them. I used to argue about how he was better than Rivers because that's what I wanted to believe. But it's amazing that with a little perspective you realize you need to stop making excuses for the guy. And even more amazing that some still don't see this.

vancejohnson82
01-27-2010, 11:18 AM
Agree, and I'd probably be one of them. I used to argue about how he was better than Rivers because that's what I wanted to believe. But it's amazing that with a little perspective you realize you need to stop making excuses for the guy. And even more amazing that some still don't see this.

I had always thought that he would get better from year to year. He showed flashes of it at the beginning of the '08 season but then regressed to his reckless self as the season wore on. That was extremely frustrating and for the first time made me doubt that he would be a star in the NFL

Rivers really knows how to play within the offense...well, except for in the Jets game.

bronco610
01-27-2010, 12:14 PM
I will say if Cutler was never traded the Omane would be making excuses for him and saying he is the 3rd best QB in the league and I wouldn't trade him for no one.

I wouldn't. As soon as cutler threw an interception in the red zone for the
3rd game in a row, a big fight with McD would have started and the board would then be polarized on keep or get rid of cutler, or its McD's fault.

It's how we roll around here now.

Circle Orange
01-27-2010, 09:59 PM
The Bears party like it's 1922...meanwhile, Cutler still sucks.

Bronco Yoda
01-27-2010, 10:39 PM
The first part of Lovie in a possible one more year and done can have a bigger effect than working with Cutler. If it is all on Cutler to these "candidates", then we can safely say that Cutler is a coach killer before they even become the coach.

It's all good. All these 'candidates' were just '6's anyway. :giggle:

Taco John
01-27-2010, 11:10 PM
To all of you b****ing about another Cutler/Bears thread how about you start up a fresh and interesting discussion about the latest Broncos news. Oh yeah, there is none. It's the off season for ****s sakes. Who cares what anybody posts now? There's not really anything else to talk about except banging players nappy sisters in the one thread.

Point for the OMane veteran. This isn't your first time around the discussion board block is it? ;)

baja
01-27-2010, 11:16 PM
Because of the CBA it's going to be tough to add players in FA this year, chicago has no picks in the 1st 2 rounds, and EVERYONE knows Lovie is facing a make or break season... I don't doubt Jays atitude plays a part but this is much more a statement of job security.

And some coaches might see it as a stepping stone to a higher position with the Bears.

Florida_Bronco
01-28-2010, 12:35 AM
I wouldn't. As soon as cutler threw an interception in the red zone for the
3rd game in a row, a big fight with McD would have started and the board would then be polarized on keep or get rid of cutler, or its McD's fault.

It's how we roll around here now.

McDaniels would have benched Cutler's ass had he played like he did in Chicago. I have no doubt about that.

bronco610
01-28-2010, 08:41 AM
McDaniels would have benched Cutler's ass had he played like he did in Chicago. I have no doubt about that.

Thats my point, and what ever back-up came in prob. loses and boom the jay cutler camp vs. McD. all over again.

kamakazi_kal
01-28-2010, 08:44 AM
Who Fuc%in cares already ....... They have Cutler we have Orton .... move on.

Popps
01-28-2010, 09:32 AM
You dont understand. The frowncannon cannot be denied...!


:Broncos:

Just relax. Jay's going to pick the right guy for the job.

Drek
01-28-2010, 10:47 AM
Who Fuc%in cares already ....... They have Cutler we have Orton .... move on.

Pretty ****ing much.

This isn't a Bears board. They could unless they're pursuing Broncos staffers for their OC opening why should any of us care?

We got our top 13 pick from 'em, end the obsession.

TonyR
01-28-2010, 07:32 PM
Sorry, couldn't resist...

Bears lose another offensive coordinator candidate
Posted by Mike Florio on January 28, 2010 10:14 PM ET

OK, now it's getting ridiculous.

In their effort to hire a new offensive coordinator, the Bears have been swinging and missing more than Barry Bonds in a blindfold.

So they've lowered their expectations, and they're still striking out.

Recently, Pitt offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti emerged as a candidate. And Cignetti now says he's staying put at Pitt.

Pitt released a statement on Thursday evening from Cignetti.

"My return to Pitt last year was the realization of a longtime personal and professional goal," Cignetti said. "It was made even more gratifying by the outstanding season we enjoyed. I couldn't be more fortunate to work for Dave Wannstedt and coach these great kids. Despite recent reports connecting my name with other jobs, I am wholeheartedly committed to being at Pitt and continuing to establish our program among the nation's very best."

In other words, the Bears will have to keep looking.

Coincidentally, Cignetti's current boss served as head coach of the Bears from 1993 through 1998, generating a record of 41-57.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/28/bears-lose-another-offensive-coordinator-candidate/

bowtown
01-28-2010, 07:48 PM
Yikes, losing out to Wannstedt is like losing out to the special kid.

colonelbeef
01-29-2010, 06:24 AM
Because of the CBA it's going to be tough to add players in FA this year, chicago has no picks in the 1st 2 rounds, and EVERYONE knows Lovie is facing a make or break season... I don't doubt Jays atitude plays a part but this is much more a statement of job security.

Bingo.

But let's go with 'nobody wants to work with Jay' for the McDunces on the board, more entertaining.

Dedhed
01-29-2010, 08:42 AM
You haven't seen anything as polarizing as Josh McDaniel's! He's systematically destroying the Broncos to remake the Broncos in his own image. Nut hugging McD apologist like you foolishly believe that McD represents "Light At The End of The Tunnel". And you couldn't be further from the truth. I don't think the argument should be whether we are worse off with or without Cutler, the argument should be how worse we will get should McD continue on the same path he has currently embarked upon. ;)

Not sure how that argument works with McD posting the same record as Shanahan did in his last year, and with a harder schedule to boot.

Seems like an improvement to me.